Turn A $80 Mini PC Into An Awesome Tiny Emulation PC!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this video, I show you how to turn a cheap $80 Mini PC into an Awesome Tiny emulation PC! It'scapable of running Sega Saturn, Wii, Gamecube, N64, Dreamcast, PSP, and much more!
We are going to installing and setting up Batocera on a Lenovo ThinkCentre M93p SFF with an i5 4570T cpu and 4-8gb of ram.
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I just found this exact pc at a flea market for $10 a couple weeks because the seller thought it was a modem, been having a blast with it
thats actually "best buy "
Lucky bastard. 👍🏻
did you try the lottery yet? i mean damn that's luck and seller stupidity playing perfectly!
I'm watching an HP Elitedesk 800 G2 Mini auction right now... very similar specs to the Lenovo, same size. Hoping I can snag it for less than ETA paid for his...
@@4h0w1e6
HPs aren't known for being reliable.
I'd advise against it.
I must say it is very tempting to get one of these mini PCs and just let it hang underneath my desk and have it connected to my monitor to have it ready to go whenever I am ready to play something.
Be sure to get a KVM
@@OtioseFanatic won't need one if your monitor can switch to different inputs sand won't need a keyboard or mouse to play games
This is such a great way to get into retro gaming without spending alot!
Sure is!
Yes great way
Get a 50 buck ps3 and it can play all those games including ps3 ofc if u mod it
Which is easy af
@ where do you find ps3s for that cheap?
@@qazip_redact774 u can buy them used on ebay. I think if u get something for 70 bucks it also has games in it included or extra controllers
I just picked up the M73p - It is basically the same as the M93P. It has a i5 4570T with 8gn ram- same processor as the M93p. Pad $80 on Ebay. Installed it with windows and ppssp was really bad with God of War. I could not even get it to work on 1X. I then installed it on Batocerra and wow what a difference compared to windows. I can run God of War chains of Olympus at 2X full speed and almost every other ppssp game at 3X. Gamecube works at 3X as well. Bottom line don't even bother with Windows - just use Batoceria it's so much faster. This so so much better than the Raspberry PI not sure why more people haven't tried it out. I love this so much that I selling my Raspberry Pi on Ebay.
what version of batocera it does make a difference
God I need one of these for my living room
should i get 50$ chromecast or this 80$ mini pc
No ps2 games it's useless. VERY USELESS
I can get a used pc for the same price and blow that up
@@rhreznor bruh I just wanna play n64 rom hacks
@@zeveeeenn get mini pc imo
@@rhreznor either way you will need a GPU
I bought an m93p based on your previous video on it. It's great! It's our family TV PC. One note however. It's kinda difficult to get 4k 60Hz out of it if you don't have a DisplayPort capable TV or Monitor. You'll need two things: 1. An active DP-->HDMI adapter, and 2. A sound bar or other source of audio. When you manually crank the display resolution to 4k 60 in the advanced display settings, it will work, but you won't get audio unless you plug something in to the 3.5mm audio jack.
Good little emulation machine. If you can find one with a Ryzen 3 3200G which has Vega 8 graphics it will have no issues the PS2 or PS3 games
So this is basically an older version (Haswell) of the ThinkCentre Tiny. While it's pretty old, it can still handle your basic everyday stuff and emulation just fine. Also great for HTPC use.
BTW, why do so many youtubers insist on using that Etcher bloatware when there are far more lightweight applications available for flashing disk images (Win32DiskImager, Rufus, etc).
It has a GUI? Why do you think the only people doing this are hard core PC enthusiast or IT professionals?
These are great everyday PCs as well. I have this exact model running Ubuntu.
I have one of those exact machines... The 35w power supply is undersized and I strongly recommend picking up a Lenovo 65w or 90w laptop power supply. If you use the 35w, the thing is majorly prone to shutting down under heavy load.
Same thing with the Dell and HP minis.
That price tag is a big plus; great starter pc kit. Regardless of its shortcomings...
These cheap mini emu PCs would be a godsend in my native country.
Arcades are common and a great outlet amidst long economic turmoil, but a measly "quarter" isn't so easily "discarded" into arcade gaming....
Anyway, I digress. Love your videos...
I bought mine for $45 three years ago. Added 16gb of ram and a 120gb SSD and called it good.
Blew my mind people were spending that on a fire stick when you could get a whole windows HTPC for the same price.
I've always wanted to pick up one of these Thinkcentre Tiny machines. I just bought an M73 Tiny yesterday that should be here in a few days. M73 also can have the i5 4570T just like the M93p, which is something to keep in mind for those looking at these. The deciding factor for me was the unit I got had the 8GB of RAM, and I think it has the HDD bracket too. The M93p is still tempting and I might have to grab one of those. I like that it has five USB 3 ports. It's amazing to see how inexpensive these are now compared to a few years ago, but such is the nature of tech. As cool as SBCs are, at these prices, I'd go with these used Thinkcentre Tiny machines every time for my purposes.
This tutorial is absolutely fantastic. Clear simple language and really good video to go alone with. Well done
These old lenovo and dell pcs are godsend.. i needed a computer running windows for my work, and bought a refurbished dell 3040 for about ₹12000..
Came with i3 8th gen, 12gb of ram and 256gb new ssd.. the internals were extremely clean, and minimum wear on that computer..
Retroarch is a dream on this work pc..
Well damn... I haven't been this early in a while but this is awesome! Love from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
while copying between folders you can also open two tabs just to shave off a few seconds
You can also go with the somewhat bigger version and have the option of squeezing a slim 1050 in it if you want later. I have the slightly older one, and it's been a good server for the last few months after Fold@Home work finally killed the Dell Optiplex
Woah. I haven't heard of Folding@Home for at least 15 years. That's still going on?
I used to do SETI and ECCP
@@zeruty Yep, still a thing, they got WAY more attention after the Pandemic as they outsourced Covid drug research to the community. Was briefly one of the most powerful (distributed) supercomputers in the world from that.
I saw your original recommendation video for the M93p back when it released and since then I have bought 7 of these computers and used them in arcade machines with coinops, for batocera/kodi in entertainment centers around the house and even installed one in a metal two player pandora's box 'controller'. While they can do the latest and greatest emulation they will remain my go to mini device until Ryzen APU mini systems drop in price. Thanks so much for the recommendation - then and now!
Sorry if this question dumb but if you run batocera can you still access a internet browser?
@@jaimemontanez2149 neither batocera itself nor the kodi media player in it have a web browser but both are internet connected and can pull artwork and Metadata for your games and videos or play RUclips trailers for your movies and such. If your question is really about opening a browser and typing in any search or site you want tho, the answer is no.
@@esmith13 ohhh okay
And I like this one, impressive performance and it's not $600 lol!
No ps2 games it's useless. VERY USELESS
I can get a used pc for the same price and blow that up
@@rhreznor Stop spamming in the comment section,idk how you are gonna get a used $80 PC that can do PS2 Emulation other than this one which can't.Post your Build here and tell me if it does decent 1080P PS2 Emulation if you can.
@@rhreznor And Also it's useless because it can't do PS2 Emulation? Grow up dude.
You to stop &itching and post your build. My is a dell 7010 4th gen i5 with 1050ti 4gb ram
@@rhreznor straight up capper
I bought one of these a while back and it makes a sturdy little hackintosh running Catalina. Psyched to find another fun project for it.
These are like 200$-250$ locally here in Montreal. Good deal from eBay! 👍
Same
We hate fun here in MTL :(
Picked up the M73 for $30 and will pick up a i5 or i7 for it later. Has 8gb of ram and also using a 240gb ssd. Love playing NES games on win10. Thanks for the video ETA!
The best tutorial better a small pc or laptop than the chinese android box. Imagine an intel i7 with solid state and good ram. You can emulate basically almost everything.
I actually had an android box on order but it was cancelled so I bought an M73 with same cpu as this M93.
Glad I have that instead, so much more powerful so you can emulate all the systems android boxes can struggle with easily. Not to mention higher end systems too.
As long as you can find one for a decent price 😊
I still have my Lil Lenovo. I upgraded to a bigger beast. Had a lot of fun playing on it.
Love your content! Have you ever compared performance between distros/mac/windows on the same exact hardware, like this lenovo mini pc?
distros based on arch tend to have the best performance since they roll out updates sooner than their debian counterpart. keep in mind it could be a double edged sword, if they roll out a buggy version. but it rarely happens and if it does it'll probably be fixed in a short amount of time
Depending on company rotation cycles, we'll likely be seeing some bulk sales of thinkcentre M715Q tiny PCs with Ryzen 3 2200ge or 2400ge in about a year, but for most comanies it will be 2+ years before we see alot of bulk sales. Right now these 2400GE based computers are selling for ~300, but once these are out of rotation i expect them to sell for $100 on ebay, as many companies just want to get rid of them and will sell lthem to 'recyclers' for as little as $20, or even free
It seems we will have to wait longer. They are scarce and the prices arestill very high at the moment.
@@jment34 It will have to be before FY2025 because that is when windows 10 will no longer be supported on these devices, and they cant "upgrade" to windows 11(even though if you manually do a clean install it works fine)
I have one of these little units in bartop running Coinops Next 2. It’s awesome.
M93P i5-4570T is a dual core processor, not a quad core, just fyi for anyone wondering
I bought this pc for college about a year ago for 90 dollars without a harddrive. And it's awesome. A simple ssd and 8gb of ram can speed things up a ton
Hi, I’ve been offered one of these without an SSD. If I install an SSD with batocera as shown in the video, will it boot up or do I need to install drivers etc for the PC? Thanks
Just got this up and running on my HP8300. THanks for the video. Trying to get my MAME to work now. Got my others working
Covid has screwed prices so bad in my country, even if you are lucky to find one of these it will cost almost 3 times the price yours did.
covid and mining best combo
Covad covid covad covid…
Covid is not a reason.
@@acumenium8157 it worked back when Bitcoin was new, because you would get a lot more for the same amount of calculations and you were doing it expecting Bitcoin to go up in price.
Most are doing home school now. These mini PCs are selling like hotcakes.
I would rather build or buy an old ITX unit with standard SFF PsU's that is readily available on the market
true lol
Batocera is my fave frontend.
If you get a free Screenscraper account you can scrape videos and have a nice visual setup with 3d boxart.
It scrapes in the background as well so you can play games while it scrapes huge amounts of games.
The inbuilt Bezel Project packs look great too.
It is a lot of fun!
I turned mine into a handheld emulation console, works great
I found one of these last year and I use it as a little portable emulator box for my nieces/nephews. It's great for the price.
I wonder what ETA Prime's house looks like. Mountains of pc gear everywhere.
I have one of these as my work desktop and it works great. I upgraded the processor to a xeon e3 though. I also have another one where I installed hackintosh and it still has macOS on it.
Recently picked one up. I am amazed what it can do. Got it running Tekken 7 at 720p running nearly at 60fps. Every thing at low so it looks rubbish but it runs!
living in canada i always get my hopes up any time ETA says something costs $80. What should only be a small increase to $100 CAD actually winds up being over $200 CAD. Still not a bad price for a emustation that runs basically everything except ps2. pricing out a low cost pc that can run everything still winds up being upwards of $800 CAD.
I got a dell 3040m with an i3-6100T for 200 CAD shipped
@@jul059 Totally. I see prices of those Dell in Europe for around 160-180€ shipped, and some of them come with the external DVD unit, and I think an i3-6100T is capable of emulating PS2.
Man this was just a few weeks ago and finding them for less than $100 has already gotten harder
another good mini pc would be the HP Prodesk 600
This was the first pc I bought because of you from your first video. Started me and my wallet on a fun journey. Thanks!
Just use a modern Smartphone with Game pad. All Games except PS4 and 5 work. Most Chinese Smartphones are excellent for gaming plus you can connect with the smart TV and Stream everything in the Display in high quality🥳😍🤩😘🥰 Will cost you between 50 to 150 US Dollars maximum
Amazing channel! Great vids. Watched this and decided to get one. The m93p I got was the 2014 version. I got it with exact same spec but with 16gb of ram. And I have thrown every ps2 game at it and it has delivered! Including matrix: path of Neo, Star Wars: force unleashed and a few other hard ones… I’m no tech person? But maybe the 16gb of ram helps with ps2? I couldn’t be happier!
I have the i7 4760 version with 16gb ram and I'm gonna set it up with a ssd like this. It should run ps2 with no issues.
So with the 16gb version quite a few ps2 games ran well? Thinking about picking one up asap
I found a great deal on an ASUS PB60G mini pc with a Nvidia Quadro P620 attachment for $375. Amazon wants over $700 and ebay is charging $450+. I heard it'll run the harder to run PS2 games flawlessly and can't wait til it arrives to try it out
You are the man!! Trying to emulate Gamecube on windows10 and linux, but with bad results. This is the KEY!! Thank you so much!! 💪👍🎮
Nice video and I do like SFF systems for neatness. I have a couple of spare mini PC's that I'm going to tinker with soon. The better one is a HP Prodesk 405 G4 with a Ryzen 5 Pro 2400GE CPU and Vega 11 graphics... This one should be able to emulate most systems just fine.
The other (weaker) PC is actually a Dell Wyse 5070 thin client with Windows 10 installed. It has a quad core Celeron J4105 processor with UHD 600 graphics. I'm guessing it will be OK for emulation up to a Dreamcast or N64? We'll see.
The Dell Optiplex 9020 USFF would be another good one for dirt cheap with the i5-4570T. It's slightly larger but it has a built in power supply and takes a standard PC cable.
I'm really wondering what is limiting factor (for emulation) when dealing with older computers : are we limited by CPU cores/threads, or by the APU part?
I could get an computer with an i5-9400 (6C/6T) for a decent price, but I'm worried the UHD 630 will spit its guts when trying PS2, WII etc...
@@LaurentCourtin with UHD630 (I have a 10500T) emu is good to great for most things up to light PS3/Xbox 360 games if you give it enough ram (dual channel and at least 16gb). It does have a limitation, it's only got 24 execution units, so the igpu/apu will be the bottleneck more than likely.
@@Pressbutan Thanks!
Awesome video! I know you said that it isn't quite powerful enough for most PS2 games, is it a GPU bottleneck that prevents that? I really like this idea of this as something I can throw in our camper when we take trips. I've toyed with the idea of a mini itx AMD APU build, but with the price / availability of parts lately, this seems much more reasonable.
I actually ran some tests with this exact model, and while it probably can't run the PS2 games most people are thinking of, stuff that's more Arcade-style should be okay. Basically most side- or vertical-scrolling shoot 'em ups, a surprising amount of fighting games (2D stuff like Shin Gokuetsuji and KOF'02UM run perfectly, but all of the Tekkens seem to work as well!) and lotsa puzzle games for the PS2 will probably work fine.
Basically, epic adventures are out of question, but if it's something you'd plunk quarters into at an arcade, it should be fine.
Still better than my PC: chapter 451
I used a NUC today works great with 4 gb of ram and an ssd thanks very much for the heads up much better than my raspberry pie setup
in the file manager, press ctrl+t or from the top menu to open a 2nd tab. it is then easier to have one tab on your usb key, and one tab on your roms.
Love how these tiny machines blow a Pi4 out of the water.
No ps2 games it's useless. VERY USELESS
I can get a used pc for the same price and slap to sleep
@@rhreznor where can you get these used PCs for the same price I’m very interested ?
@@miguelcardona8430 Exactly,dude has been spamming comments here but doesn't tell what PC he is talking about.
Ahem, a RPi is WAY tinier. It's pretty unfair to compare a full fledged computer with a RPi. Mind that those Lenovo tiny PC's were costing $500-600 the day they were released, and they consume like 10 times more electricity. It just can't be compared :(
What is awesome is just the computing progress we live in, which could be faster if companies wouldn't slow it down on purpose just for the sake of selling more and more, but it's a progress anyways, which allows you to get a totally worth complete computer for daily use for less than $100.
For me SNES is the best oldschool console. So many good games (Shin Megami Tensei, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger Secret of Mana, Shadowrun etc. etc.
I've got an old i5 with 8GB RAM collecting dust. I've been curious about Batocera and was going to load it on one of my SBCs but what the hell...the old tower might win.
Great video (as always). Just picked one of these up on ebay recently but haven't had a chance to set it up. Good timing!
$60 bucks thanks to your ebay link... this is definitely my next project. Perfect for what I want.
also check you local used pc shops and thrift stores
I this exact mini pc as an HTPC. It's great but you should go into the bios and make sure it is set to performance mode. Makes a huge difference in temps and boost speed. The built-in wifi isn't easily compatible with Ubuntu so I bought a USB dongle. Also, my understanding is you can swap a few different processors in that may give you a bit more power.
Thanks ETA, this was again very simple to follow. Are you able to do a tutorial on how to update individual emulators on this?
great to see video, getting to the 2020s, there are new intel chips out with improved integrated graphics how a 65w ryzen 4700g compares to a 65w intel11600 in a asrock desk mini format would be most interesting to see.
Hope your arm is okay. Thanks for the video sir
the shop i work for got 16 of these barebones and we added ram , cpu and processor! the one I gotfor me I put the i7 4790 with 8gb ram and it runs amazing !
I recently got the M73 with the i5 cpu of this M93 but the i7 would be a great performance boost.
Have you tested any PS2 on that?
@@fonzitheman not yet I haven't , been working on getting all the roms and such
@@ryrysuperman
I get it.
Im still in process of testing etc
But Ive been running batocera off a flash drive and keeping roms on external portable hdd.
That way you can have the portable hdd formatted to ntfs and easily transfer roms over just by windows.
Regarding missing the scrape of Marvel vs Capcom 2, hold the bottom button on your controller (X on PSX, A on XBOX, yellow/B on SNES) and it will bring up the Game Options menu. From there, you can go to scrape, and generally it will have a list of possible options, of which typically one is correct but the AI had trouble choosing between several.
Another great video -Eta!!! Could you prepare something similar but for pinball cabinet with a mini pc?
I added a Mini PCI-E to PCI-E Express 1x Extension Adapter Card, dremeled small slit in case to run ribbon out, added Pico PSU 160W with 270w Flex ATX Power Supply, and GTX 1660 Ti. The card runs on 1x but I can play anything including BotW.
Can you explain more ? I'm interested by this solution but I don't know nothing about egpu... Thanks à lot 😀
Nice in depth video. I’m actually working on a similar but different video using this same computer right now.
Cool emulation rig you bought. Hopefully you can show off more like these
I have a couple of the i3 versions that im holding for a virtual pinball build and another project that I havent conjured up yet. LOL. The small form factors make them good for placement
Wow ETA powerful budget device that's what IAM talking about
Greetings from south Carolina! We love the content and I am so glad I came across your channel. Where might I ask do you get your ROMS from?
Very cool video. I will be putting this on my project list 🙂 thanks!
Thanks for the nice review of what's possible with these off lease office machines!
2:30 I thought he was saying "auto-sear" 😂 whoops! Wrong channel lol
I have one of these. I have it as wireless toolkit BC my desktop does not have wireless. It is also my only other Haswell computer backup. the rest of my backup machines are Sandybridge (2011), Yorkfield(2009), and Prescott (2004).
Great video, super detailed! I Have an old pc and I’m dying to do this! Lol I have a low profile gpu, will see if byocera detects it
A good alternative to a raspberry pi if your just using it to play games. Of course,it’s not as good for hardware “Making”, but it’s much better for games,
Man those systems are such a good price.I looked at the link and they average between 1400 to 2000 for me but to ship cost another 1.5k.It's actually cheaper to import than get it locally.I am busy with an old 939 amd with a gt 9400 for retro gaming.Only thing i may have to use an virtual box to get games on as i don't know if i can do it via windows.
I have a Lenovo thinkcentre m73 tiny and I managed to play some Nintendo switch games on it
Eta prime can you make a video for witch you think is the best retropie recalbox or batocera for emulation and why? Love all you videos keep up the great work.
On x86_64 the answer is Batocera - hands down! No other linux based gaming OS has all the classics, Kodi, AND 3DS/GameCube/Wii/PS2/PS3/DosBox and in the next beta/stable release the OG Xbox!!!
No ps2 games it's useless. VERY USELESS
I can get a used pc for the same price and slap this one to sleep
@@rhreznor Anyone trying to run PS2 games on the M93p is on drugs... I assumed the question what a general one about which gaming OS is better overall. Given a powerful enough PC to use it - batocera wins because (when used on a strong pc) it can emulate the likes of PS2/PS3/Xbox.
* If you want to use your games USB drive on a PC or Linux make sure you format it using a file system that is recognized by both platforms.
thanks for your videos ! I often watched them to get updates. It's been a while since I am trying to gather what could be the best miniPC on a budget (let's say 100-150 bucks total) to use as an emulation PC/device. I have been using so far a Raspberry pi 3b+ with Retropie.... the raspberry pi 4 and this one too seem all valid upgrades. What would you recommend, also considering...longvity let's say... I think - as far as I know - one can't expect a PS3 level on such budget....but I was wondering for a near-PS3 level what would be the best in this range. Thanks for the input ! :) I Will definitely take a deeper look at the lenovo.
This is very tempting. I want to wait for the RaspberryPi 5 to release (and hopefully that comes out this year even with the chip shortages) for a low power option but being able to play up to Wii would be nice. Dreamcast and PSP are the highest system I normally emulate.
One question related to this "build": Would Batocera or RetroPie be a better option than Android on a system like this or a RaspberryPi? I want to run Android TV so I can stream on the device and I've put in some money ($10+) on emulators and front-end apps so if I can use those apps I'd like to if there isn't a huge performance issue.
We have 5 of these we got for free, they’ve been fantastic for things like Java edition on Minecraft (my main PC hosts the server). I never thought to emulate on it… might have to get to it, and upgrade to an i7.
I saw some of these on eBay, didn't realize they were so TINY though. I was thinking about picking one up to use as a kitchen display kiosk type of device, but I already spent $1000 on a new computer build, so its kind of hard to just splurge another $80-100 on something I don't particularly need.
Come on, you know you want too 😁
Now people should be getting the hp elitedesk 800 m2 mini. I5-6500t and 8 gigs of ram for 50 bucks on ebay all day long.
I got it for $35 bucks last year, hooked it up with hard drives rack using it as a file server
I use an M83 as my PC to run my projector when i watch movies ... I should load some emus on it and see how it goes.
Thank you so much
Nice vid thanks a lot very helpful man. Hope your hand gets better.
I love the look of this little machine
5:08: That's not correct. If the gamepad isn't detected right away you can configure it without pluging any keyboard. I tested it with 2 different gamepads that are not Sony nor Xbox pads, just third party cheap ones and if you keep pressing a button that window will popup and the wizard will start (Batocera 29). It's someway nice, as it keeps you away from using anything else than a gamepad, just like a console :)
Say this very time. But do enjoy watching these mini PC videos.
What exact controller did you get? That link just takes me to various controllers. I want that controller, lol
Lmao those are the work computers we use at my job
"Borrow" one 😂
@@idkanymore3382 what difference does it make there's 7 billion people in the world
@@idkanymore3382 why is it stupid
@@idkanymore3382 May not be dude's pic. Mine isn't.
We trash these on the daily. I work in IT at a hospital, their about 6-8 years old. The first thing that goes out on these is the video. The VGA and the DP outputs stop working, that's the number one thing that happens to these. If you can get one of the red stripe m900 or higher they tend to be better and don't have the bad videochips in them. HP and Dell make these Tiny PCs also, I would get one with a i5 6500T or better, it has Intel HD 530 graphics, the i7400t has intel HD graphics 630. They start out at 250 on Amazon, lil less on Ebay, but faster graphics and cooler processor.
This channel is Gold
Have always transferred any games to Batocera using Kodi's File Manager.So much easier to me.Think it's Night Commander or at least like it.I always use Total Commander in Windows & Android so,right at home using it....
Scraping is a lot better in Launchbox with Emumovies
These can play many PS2 games if you are willing to do some research/experimentation to find the perfect PCSX2 settings.
I love Batocera, but when I install it never leaves me enough room to add roms. Even on a 500GB drive. Its like it doesn't make the partition big enough. Is there a way to move the Roms folder onto a removable drive? Also, can you do retro achievements with this setup?
you can use disk management on windows, or boot off a USB into Gparted live and extend your partition
I know when you see the drive size after install of Batocera and if you hook up SSD up to a PC it shows size to be way smaller. I was worried that something was wrong with partitions but I went ahead and installed roms and videos into Kodi anyway and so far I have 25+gb of roms and 150+gb of videos which is way above the stated size showing in properties so it seems to be using the full size of SSD. Give it another try and just fill 'er up past the stated size to check it is working.
I love your videos so much!!