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@@loreslores7116 Wiadomo jakich. Kleberka i debicy! Great review Jonatan as usual! I am still on Kleber quadraxer 3 and the second winter still ahead of me. I am pleased that Pirelli sf3 impressed you as in all your vids it was a bit neglected and underestimated. Now some improvements have been impemented so hope to get a good feedback on Pirelli. And for those who want a good set of tires for snow I do recommend kleber Q3 theay are underestimated bbut do a great job on every kind of snow. Ya said if ya wont to a good tyre for snow go for winter tyre. I dissagree. Kleber does the job well so as CC2 does.
One thing that people who are against all season tyres forget, is that the real main advantage of those is when you live in a climate in which you can have wildly different weather and temperatures within two, or even a single week. For example Poland or Germany. In Winter you can have -5 degrees C and a lot of snow, and very next day you can have +5 degrees and rain. And week later you somehow get +15, which can also be wet. Unless you plan on changing tyres every day depending on weather, all season will be better - it's much better than winter tyre in warm/wet conditions. And the difference is bigger then, instead of difference in most snowy scenario(which you also very rarely get in urban areas, unless you live in mountains). Same with competition against summer tyres. It csn be really bad in transitioning seasons, like early-mid spring and mid-late autumn. There's often a mix of high temperature days(for example 25 C) and suddenly a few days with minus temps. One thing you NEVER EVER want to do is to use summer tyre on cold temperatures, and a lot of people seem to either forget or simply not know that.
Good winter tires will work not much worse under the same conditions (early-mid spring and mid-late autumn). So it's rather about summer performance vs convenience. And yeah, I agree with you that the main focus should be to NEVER EVER use summer tires in cold conditions.
@@illiaal1268 the general rule here is to change to winter tyres when temperature drops below 7 degrees. Now, in the morning, when people drive to work, it's 6 or 7, but no one change tyres from summer to winter yet from what I see.
I totally agree with you! I’m kind of special that i have three sets of tires (i have a garage and all the tool a need). I have what you call summer tires (or sport tires), winter tires for Swedish winter (in Stockholm) the Michelin X-Ice North 4 studded tires but also the Michelin CrossClimate 2 that i use during fall and spring. And lett me tell you! Im very i am very impressed of how the CrossClimate performs in some conditions (compared to my studded tires). They have a very firm grip on both ice and snow. The only times they fall behind is when its icy on the road and im going upp or down. In those situation i feel not really secure all the time. In those conditions the studded tires are almost like summer tires in feeling of grip!
Hey Jens. Was würdest du in Deutschland nach dem Test empfehlen? Ich lebe südlich in der Pfalz. Ziemlich wenig Schnee. Daher denke ich, dass die Priorität Trocken, Nass, Glatt, Schnee liegen sollte. Ich schwanke gerade zwischen den Continental und den Goodyear Vector 4 Gen 3. Überlege aber, ob nicht die Michelin nicht vielleicht auch sinnvoll wären.
@@zidanex123 Ich lebe in Norddeutschland und wir bekommen nur selten Schnee, aber auch an solchen Tagen kann/will ich das Fahrzeug nicht stehen lassen. Ich werde im Sommer weiterhin Sommerreifen nutzen, da ich die größtmögliche Sicherheit für meine Familie will und mein VW T6-Bus voll beladen über 3 t wiegt. Für den Winter hatte ich bisher immer Continental Winterreifen und war mit denen wirklich zufrieden, aber an 98%-99% der Tage im Winterhalbjahr liegt kein Schnee und dann sind Ganzjahresreifen besser als Winterreifen. Ich brauche neue Reifen für die Wintersaison und werde deshalb ab diesem Jahr Ganzjahresreifen in der kalten Saison nutzen und Anfang April wieder auf Sommerreifen wechseln. Bei mir werden es die Conti AllSeasonContact 2, u.a. da es die Pirelli in der von mir benötigten Größe nicht gibt (VW T6 Multivan mit 255/45 R18) und und weil diese Reifen sehr ausgewogen zu sein scheinen (ohne wirkliche Schwäche). Wenn ich in einer anderen Region in Deutschland leben würde (wo es im April noch Schnee oder im Oktober/November schon Schnee geben kann), würde ich vermutlich das gesamte Jahr über Ganzjahresreifen fahren.
@@zidanex123 Ich lebe in Norddeutschland und wir bekommen nur selten Schnee, aber auch an solchen Tagen kann/will ich das Fahrzeug nicht stehen lassen. Ich werde im Sommer weiterhin Sommerreifen nutzen, da ich die größtmögliche Sicherheit für meine Familie will und mein VW T6-Bus voll beladen über 3 t wiegt. Für den Winter hatte ich bisher immer Continental Winterreifen und war mit denen wirklich zufrieden, aber an 98%-99% der Tage im Winterhalbjahr liegt kein Schnee und dann sind Ganzjahresreifen besser als Winterreifen. Ich brauche neue Reifen für die Wintersaison und werde deshalb ab diesem Jahr Ganzjahresreifen in der kalten Saison nutzen und Anfang April wieder auf Sommerreifen wechseln. Bei mir werden es die Conti AllSeasonContact 2, u.a. da es die Pirelli in der von mir benötigten Größe nicht gibt (VW T6 Multivan mit 255/45 R18) und und weil diese Reifen sehr ausgewogen zu sein scheinen (ohne wirkliche Schwäche). Wenn ich in einer anderen Region in Deutschland leben würde (wo es im April noch Schnee oder im Oktober/November schon Schnee geben kann), würde ich vermutlich das gesamte Jahr über Ganzjahresreifen fahren. Ein Freund von mir fährt übrigens das gesamte Jahr über Goodyear Vector4Season 3 und ist damit sehr zufrieden. Ich denke, mit keinem dieser Top-Ganzjahresreifen machst du etwas falsch: Die liegen alle sehr nah beieinander.
@@zidanex123 Ich lebe in Norddeutschland und wir bekommen nur selten Schnee, aber auch an solchen Tagen kann/will ich das Fahrzeug nicht stehen lassen. Ich werde im Sommer weiterhin Sommerreifen nutzen, da ich die größtmögliche Sicherheit für meine Familie will und mein VW T6-Bus voll beladen über 3 t wiegt. Für den Winter hatte ich bisher immer Continental Winterreifen und war mit denen wirklich zufrieden, aber an 98%-99% der Tage im Winterhalbjahr liegt kein Schnee und da wären Ganzjahresreifen besser als Winterreifen. Ich brauche im Oktober neue Reifen für die Wintersaison und werde ab diesem Jahr Ganzjahresreifen während der kalten Saison nutzen und Anfang April wieder auf Sommerreifen wechseln. Bei mir werden es die Conti AllSeasonContact 2, u.a. da es die Pirelli in der von mir benötigten Größe nicht gibt (VW T6 Multivan mit 255/45 R18) und und weil diese Reifen sehr ausgewogen zu sein scheinen (ohne wirkliche Schwäche). Wenn ich in einer anderen Region in Deutschland leben würde (wo es im April noch Schnee oder im Oktober/November schon Schnee geben kann), würde ich vermutlich das gesamte Jahr über Ganzjahresreifen fahren. Ein Freund von mir fährt übrigens das gesamte Jahr über Goodyear Vector4Season Gen. 3 und ist damit sehr zufrieden. Die Michelin kenne ich nicht. Ich denke, mit keinem dieser Top-Ganzjahresreifen machst du etwas falsch: Die liegen alle sehr nah beieinander.
Driving company car in europe over 55 000 km/year , with my colleagues we are testing tires in normal condition. So far, the crossclimate 2 are higly above pirelli to me if i had to by them because of the consistency after half milage. Tested Pirelli ; michelin ; goodyear and continental on Scenic 4 ( 1.7 tons, 195mm wide 20"), and encouter every situation, from mountain in snow; mountain in hot summer in spain; very wet highway etc... Basically, every brand new tire with low mileage is good, but it became scary with less tread. Michellin keep it's consistency in the time, especially on wet highway, you can run over 140km/h under heavy rain with a 50% used tire on highway, i found the limit before with a used goodyear or pirelli. Michelin and continental also run for huge mileages over pirelli and goodyear. In snow, michelin is always far over. And finally, the noise on highway... Continental is terrible, other 3 brands are good.
I now fit Cross Climate 2s all year round and I’m just thrilled with them. Two years ago in a decent snowfall (6”, this is England after all) I went out to have an evening drive about in my Skoda Yeti 4X4. It was great fun! Coming out of a local town situated in a valley, and bypassing the mayhem of stranded and sliding cars on the hills coming out, I met a couple in a Yeti coming the other way. We stopped and had a quick chat, they were on winter tyres and doing exactly the same thing. Just driving in the snow for the sheer joy of it.
The Michelin CC2 sold in EU are not good in durability. The Thread is literaly disappearing too quickly. Was impressed in snow myself but they are not lasting much. Will not buy another set and will go a bit cheaper . Is not worth it . And new they are like 7mm. Bollocks..
I have 70k miles with cc2 and still 5/32 tread left. I live in Alaska and Living in colder weather helps a lot with longevity of treads because it doesn’t wear much when there is snow or water on the road. Also it never goes above 80’F during peak summer. It’s definitely not ideal tire for areas with short winter and gets hot during summer.
I've been purchasing my tyres according to your recommendations for a few years now and never been disappointed. I replaced my wife's summer tyres with Michelin CrossClimate 2 three months ago and I have CrossClimate on my SUV. I will have to look out for the Pirellis i future.
One aspect not mentioned in this test, that was in the previous: thread wear. The Pirellis are not cheap and wear faster than most others: overal higher cost per distance.
@@Prophet1cus Perfect for people that change cars often or for when you don't drive much. I personally have never replaced a tyre because the thread was gone. It has always been because of age or lack of performance.
@@Prophet1cusi drove my sf2 for 52.000 km and had 2.3 mm tread left, so perfect could easy go 60.000km. Now my sf3 are on 13.000km droven and nooo change in thread. Should easy last for 4 or 5 years. Dont believe all the trash in Internet.
Having the winter and summer tire data is great! Really shows you what the tires are actually like, not just what the manufacturer calls them. I'm getting a set of goodyear ultragrip ice 3 nordic friction tyres for my car this winter season.
Well done with the test. I owned michelins CC+ for 4 winters then the CC2 for the last 2 winters. Both Michelins were better than most winter tyres driving on ice and snow, they felt as good as a summer tyre on cold but dry roads during winter and had good fuel economy. 4mm thread depth is a big issue in Europe for winter tyres because they ask you to buy new tyres. If Michelin chooses to only make 6.1mm of rubber thats a big weakness because you only have 2mm of useable rubber or 2 winter seasons, then they are down to 4 mm and need replacement. Goodyear 4 season gen 3 start with 8.2 mm. So you have 4.2 mm or 4 to 5 winters of tyre life.
Thank you for this! I think testing a group of tires WITH the added context from 2 contrasting tire categories AND in multiple traction scenarios, is SUPER interesting.
Your channel is one of the most valuable here on RUclips. I have been following you for many years and just want to say thank you for your consistently great work. Since I own several cars (including classics), your reviews have regularly helped me tremendously to make the right purchasing decisions.
Thanks! Do we have thread longevity and performance effectiveness at like 50 percent thread life sort of tests? I think that's very important for us average users.
Thanks! I would love to do more worn testing, the issue is the expense in fairly preparing the tyres at 50% wear is quite high. 2 seasons ago I did an all season test with a wear test and a worn state test (around 2mm)
I bought Pirelli Cinturato SF3 on your recommendation, and compared to my old and cheap Tomkets, Pirelli are quiet, soft and very comfortable. I have no doubts about the excellent performance in wet and snow, because I previously put Michelin Crossclimate 2 on another car on your recommendation, and they were too amazing. Thank you very much for your work and true measurements!
I bought the Continental's to fit on an 18 year old 3 series a couple of weeks ago. Really happy with them, great tyres. They transformed the car massively. It was either these or Pirelli's.
@@danh4538 I'm looking at the Pirellis after having Bridgestone Evo 5 all season. I was going to fit the evolution to the Evo 5, which is the Turanza 6 all season, but the rolling resistance, ride harshness, noise level and handling charactheristics are making me think twice now. (Evo 5's were decent all round, confidence inspiring in the wet, blowing through low water crossings in a car, whilst SUV's on summer tires were cautious. I can't compare to others, because they were my 1st all season tires I've fitted)
This is one of the only things I’ll drop what I’m doing to watch. Fantastic test across a huge variety of conditions - this is as real world representative as it gets!
I have the CrossClimate2. I don't mind too much if they are worse than other tires in the wet, what I care the most is hydroplaning (aquaplaning?) resistance because it makes you suddenly lose control, and the Michelin are pretty good.
Good stuff!! I bought some Cross Climate 2 a couple years ago. It used to snow a lot in Syracuse, NY, back in the old days, a few years ago. No more. So, the snow advantage goes away. Next will be those Pirellis. Thnks.
I even do not need tyres, after i have bought my all season hankooks last year thanks to you , but will watch all of it. Love your content. Keep it up!
Just bought the Pirelli's based on your test from earlier this year, happy to see that I made the right choice! Getting them fitted tomorrow and can't wait to test them. Thanks for making these excellent videos!
I definitely would have liked to see the Hankook iON EVO AS tire in this test. That is an extremely popular tire now because it is so incredibly efficient and it has a great tread wear rating. However, there isn’t much data yet on how it performs in the dry, wet, and snow. Please, test that tire as soon as you can. I have that tire in the 235/45/18 size on my 2024 Highland Model 3 Performance and it is an outstanding tire so far. Efficiency is just incredible with it.
Also interested I got them after I saw a model 3 review of them on my rav4 prime. Quietest tire I’ve ever ran and I got 1-3 miles improvement, better warranty, and better grip over the oe Yokohama ones.
How do they compare in terms of noise and comfort on uneven surfaces? Did you have the Michelin E-Primacy installed from the beginning? Do you have a direct comparison to them? I find that these E-Primacy tires are quiet, but they perform terribly on wet surfaces, have poor grip on dry roads, and are very hard and uncomfortable.
Thank you for this thorough comparison. I just bought a set of Pirelii SF3’s based on this review, i’ll see how they feel. I’ve done around 60k km with Michelin CrossClimate 2 on my other car and they stood the test of time incredibly well. One thing to keep in mind about Michelin though is at some point of wear they suddenly get very noisy, to the point that i though my wheel bearings were shot - turned out it was tyres. This was my experience, might not be true for others. Greetings from Poland ;)
7:28 those are some interesting results! The best UHP winter tyre outperforming the all seasons, even at a temperature of 21.5c. Just looking at this result I would almost choose a winter tyre instead of an all season tyre for a mild climate winter season. Or this proves we just need UHP all season tyres?
@@pfunk34 Yes, but it is aimed at the American market and doesn't have the 3PMSF symbol. Without that it is not allowed to be used as a winter tyre in Germany for example. If only Michelin would get it a 3PMSF symbol and market it in Europe...
I use Michelin Pilot sport 4's for summer driving & Michelin cross climates during the winter months. When the PS4's start sliding as the temperature drops, put the CC's on. I live in the NE of England on the edge of the N Yorkshire moors, so winters tend to be mainly wet, slush & then snow. Last year my car was booked in for some work & it was snowing really heavily, with about 6-10cms of snow on the roads. Was overtaking cars doing 5mph & getting stuck on a few banks (including loads of Range/disco/land Rovers) it was hilarious, but I just gave them a friendly wave as I passed them all. My mechanic laughed as I pulled up as everyone was cancelling because of the weather. He drives a disco with big some funky looking winter tyres on & lives in the next village from mine. It's like clothing, dress for the weather!
This may be niche, but I'm curious about the differences between UHPAS tires (like the Pilot Sport AS and the Conti DWS06+) versus their traditional AS counterparts. What are we really gaining and losing choosing one over the other?
I have a 330d xDrive too. I had Goodyear 4seasons fitted to mine, which I actually found to be a bit too compromised in the summer when I wanted to exploit all that performance, so ended up getting a set of Eagle F1s to run from around April-November. I have of course completely defeated the object of an all season tyre, but think I have actually found the optimal (albeit not the most efficient) way of driving in the UK: winter-biased all season tyres for our milder winters, and a good UHP summer tyre for the rest of the year.
Just had Goodyear Vector 4S Gen 3 fitted on my new car. Had them on my previous car and my wife's car. The only thing I can say having tried Michelins and Bridgestones throughout the years of driving in all conditions: this is the king of all seasons. Amen.
@@Alencekas agreed! Have them on my Citroen C5 X7 (it's a heavy tourer so needs XL tyres) and i'm using them since mid 2021, did around 45-50k km(i would need to double check). Great tyres, saved my skin quite a few times! I feel like they are a better allrounder than CrossClimate 2, especially since they apparently also last longer.
Had them fitted to mine. The only flaw with them is how they'd get chronic understeer under sharp steering input (think a quick medium size roundabout). Load them up a bit more gently and they aren't far off in performance from the Eagle Asy 5s I had on before them
@@tyrereviews Will be interesting to see what they produce. On the tyre reviews website the Gen 3 beat out the Michelin, Continental, and Bridgestone in overall performance. I'm surprised they're not considered the de facto standard these days. Thanks for all the videos, your channel and website are an invaluable resource.
Excellent videos you make on Tyres! I recently bought the Michelin Cross climate 2 tires (tyres) and was surprised how quiet they were compared to my Factory tires (Bridge stone Ecopia 225/60 /R17 all season) I had a DB reading sensor and Cross climate 2 tyres were 1-2 db quieter ( I had written road DB readings on the Ecopia tyres while driving in 4 different designated road areas + different speeds before the Michelin CC2 were bought & installed) . I live in Northern Alberta Canada and winters last a little longer up here so I wanted a good Tyre to handle snow, ice and salt slush + puddling potholes. I'm thinking the Michelin CC2 should handle slush better and this winter I will know soon. Hydro planing on slush passing a big truck is not a lot of fun when driving as I'm retired. Tires do make a difference and was willing to fork out a few hundred dollars more for my new 2024 all wheel Subaru Forester to have some nice tires. Watching your videos over the last few months has made me think I made a good choice. Not sure how they will handle in -40C weather travelling at 100km/hr time will tell that tale IMO.(It does get that cold in January for a few weeks sometimes for the last 30yrs I have lived here. i bought my tyres early because last winter they were hard to get quotes for my Honda pilot because certain sizes are hard to find and Michelin manufactures those CC2 in Canada, the ones I Bought were date marked 3024 (30th week of 2024)only a few months old, inventory's seem low IMO. "Update" November 24th 2024 Well had my best winter driving test this winter with these tires on a 5 hr drive north of Edmonton Alberta Canada and drove in a area for about 2 hrs with snow , ice and Potash salt that does not freeze with about -17C and the Tyres handled very well. The middle of the 2 lane one direction highway is where the slush accumulates until the snow plow removes it and that is where Criss climate tires needed to perform from a hydroplaning event when passing large trucks and smaller vehicles a lot and the tires where all stars for that part of the drive. I would rate them 8-9/10 for my winter driving needs. Very pleased with these tyres and happy I bought them for long winters in Northern Alberta Canada! Thanks for videos, they do matter for safer driving also means less stressful a drive!
The Pirelli is sold in the US as the Cinturato Weatheractive. I have had in on my wife's WRX since last winter. Here in the Northwest US, we get about one to three weeks of snow and 6 months of rain. Temperatures also vary from below freezing to 15c from one day to the next. These higher snow traction all weather/all season tire are the best for our weather. Even summer performance is adequate, so I don't even bother with summer tires on the WRX now.
Thank you so much for including wet brake test in warm and cold weather! My choice is Continental due to slightly better snow performance, but the Pirellis are very tempting!
@@tyrereviews oh totally! The progress is immense. I remember two years ago when I was recommending tyres for my mom's C5 and the Michelin CC2 was an obvious choice, back then there was no better tyre. Today's choice makes me feel like we could've chosen better
I bought the Pirelli SF3 16" after seeing your test earlier this year, where you also said it came closest to "feeling like a summer tyre". I was shocked by how well it drives and feels! Thanks for all your effort and time on this!
I moved to Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. My BMW X-5 had Michelin All Season tires. The first winter up there and the car AWD slipped all over. I actually bought Mastercraft Tires at Walmart, all season, and the X-5 handled great for three winters on those tires. I noticed on the Michelin All Season tires, the grooves going around the tire had stratigraphy edges from the tread pattern. The MasterCraft had slight off set edges from the pattern into the main grooves, which I feel gave the tires more bite.
As a Vredestein QT pro all season user, I can confirm the results. It's soft, ok to drive in dry, really good in wet, and I haven't tried it on snow apart from getting out of the driveway (which I had no problems with). The only reason I have them is it was the best tire I coud find for 275/35/19 in my area... But for the money, it's ok. I will however try to switch to Continental or Pirelli next time, if I find them. I don't need snow tires anymore, winters are getting hotter every year.
It looks like Pirelli did a take on the crossclimate pattern and I"m glad its worked out for them. I still have a 2yr old set of CrossClimate 2s and love them because I do live where we have snow for 5~6 months of the year (upper midwest, USA) - will consider Pirelli or just get another set of CC2s, whichever one happens to be cheaper or available in my area :)
Thank you for the best news of the day! I'm glad now that i ordered and just received the new Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 225/40 R18 on Octavia VRS 350HP. I can't wait to test them. They will be the second set for cold weather in addition to my summer Goodyear asymmetric 6. They are replacing my old Nokian WR D4. I plan to use them 7months/year October-April and to switch on summer on warmer weather.
Dude, fix asta vreau si eu sa fac, si tot Asym 6 am pentru vara :)). M-am cam saturat sa stau cu anvelope de iarna pe 15 grade in Ianuarie. Ai mai avut All Season iarna? Oare sunt ok cand te prinde zapada sau cand e cate o dimineata dinaia de -10 grade? Eu am un Stinger rwd.
@@andreigeorgesco Hey! Am mai avut Michelin Crossclimate+ dar nu pe Octavia și am fost super mulțumit de ele. Știu că o diferente intre ele și Pirelli, dar sunt sigur că voi fi mulțumit!
Two days ago I also fitted Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 225/40 R19 on Octavia VRS 245HP. I'm really surprised by the braking in warm climate. It's so much better than the stock fitted Bridgestone Potenza S005 in curve handling and noise level.
Best tire review channel on RUclips. In the future, it would be cool to see a test comparing the best of these tires against an On Road All Terrain tire, like the Falken Wildpeak A/T Trail.
I really appreciated your information in this video, I learned a lot. I can't find Pirelli Cinturato st3 in New York City. In the US, only Pirelli Cinturato WeatherActive is available. So I have a question for you: Is it the same technology or are they completely different? Thank you. I will wait for your answer.
Let´s go! New video, im here instantly! Time to bring up a video idea: Compare the best of each categorie (UHP, HP, Comfort, AT, AS, Winter, Track etc.) in each Scenario. Me for example, I´d, like to buy an Range Rover L322 4.4TDV8, and i might get a bit into offroading. But could i do that with a Conti AS 7? Do i need the AT 2? Or do I give up on a huge amount of wet and snow grip? Or my old SLK230, should be used for Summer only - could i put track tires on it? Or is the comfort to bad for even the drive to work by good weather? Would i swim away in a summer rain? So with that video you could attempt to give an overview over a lot of very induvidual usecases.
Great review so far.. May i add a fundamental test in snow/slush/icy . I have been working in the Alps for 16 whole winter seasons ... no all season tyre is really tested until you have to go up a mountain/hill or going down ... hence while the police in Austria always linger at the bottom the mountain be going up... checking your tyres .. i feel testing a winter tyre on a flat frozen lake is not where the tyres come into the own . thank you for this fantastic channel!
Based on your previous test, I purchased the Pirelli SF3. Outstanding tyre. And thanks a lot for clear english explanations. Even for not nativ speaker very easy to understand. Good Job overall. Love your videos ❤ germany is watching you 😊
I honestly don't know for sure what manufacturing company makes the Blizzak line of tire. But I was forced to put some on a 4x4 Toyota Tacoma. They looked terribly small, especially after we installed the lift kit. I will say that for the first time in my life, I watched a truck burn rubber on an icy road while towing another truck. The wheels started to spin, and he floored it.. 1st gear, 2nd gear, then 3rd, and it began crawling across the ice, leaving 4 burn-out marks down the road...😂 I was impressed! ❤
For Winter tyres, the only ones I would consider are: 1. Nokian Hakkapelitta series. Best all round winter performance throughout the life of the tyres. 2. Vredestein. Best for areas that get more snow than any other precipitation in the winter. 3. Gislaved. Best tyres for deep snow. Of course, this applies to cars, CUV's and SUV's. Trucks, vans and large vehicles are different.
@claudiocosterni6488 Really? You took the time and effort to criticize me on a typo? I'm typing with one thumb, which is probably bigger than any of your appendages. Give us a break! If you want to discuss tyres, let's... but don't bother with a freaking obvious typo (which I've corrected, in case anymore Cpt. Obvious' out there feel the need to attack the least problematic issue in a comment) 😒
@@MickPsyphon Attack? Have you felt attacked? 😆 Really? You're slightly... just slightly out of your mind, or dazed by another movie. Yes, really really! 🙄 However, I look and worry about everything in any serious discussion, always, observing at 360°, am not short-sighted with blinkers, nor hasty and distracted, and a simple input like this is often a good test to highlight what is hidden behind a big finger, a finger with defective control, which being big... obviously only gets one of the letters wrong... I instead of O... typically. The excuse, the reasoning is flawless! And it doesn't even sound new to me, many others invoke it... You are one of the many who instead of thanking and correcting, get stupidly annoyed. Take a nice cold shower, man with big thumb and a smaller brain, to cool your hot, out-of-place spirits. Now you can consider yourself attacked.
@@petersmith7126 You ain't just whistling Dixie! 😅 I suppose they lack affirmation in their lives; and by criticizing others they experience schadenfreude to fill that void.
Hello, first of all thank you for best reviews on RUclips. I buy this year fiesta st mk8, sell 18 inch and buy 17 inch. For summer I buy tyres based on your review goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 6. For winter I choose pirelli cinturato all season sf3 tyre based also on your last review because not so much snow maybe 1 or twice, only cold in morning minus 5 degree, and i drive on winter tyres for 4 months than I change to summer tyres. Glad to see that pirelli is best tyre for my condition, plus dot 2024, about 24 euro cheaper than winter tyre like blizak lm 005, better in wet and dry. Keep on great work.
Viewed the previous all season tire review 07/23 and straight bought the Hangkook kinergy 4s2 245/18“. After 30tkm, passing every day a 1500m mountain on a highway to work, going to ski every weekend in wintertime, I can highly suggest this tire and confirm the excellent heavy rain behaviour. It becomes the standard for all of our cars in the family. 5mm profile is remaining.
I'd be interested in seeing you test the Nokian WRG4 or the WRG5. I understand that the snow test isn't probably the most important test, as most cities and towns plow the roads. What is more critical is the drop in temperatures during the winter months and how that impacts a tires ability to handle on freezing cold roads. Thank you for producing these awesome tire review videos.
By far the best data and presentation of any tire review site - I've really come to depend on your content in my tire selection. You consistently select a good range or tires for each test and compliment the real data with your driving impressions - It makes a Huge difference in value to me, the consumer. While I understand there are far too many tires to test them all - I do wish you could perhaps focus a review on tires available in US vs. EU. I can't go out and buy some of your Test Winners and its hard to compare a Continental or Scorpion Verde AS or Cross Contact LX25; or Pirelli Cinturato P7 SF3 (Both Available in US) to the tires from the corresponding companies in your testing (Not Available in US...). Finally - My feedback to Tire Mfg: Make these wonderful, Test Winning Tires available in the US Please!
Awesome, as of right now the Pirelli sounds like my next purchase. It's been a long time since I bought Pirelli tires so I'm weirdly kind of excited about that.
I use to have Cooper Zeon RS3-G1 on my 2020 Buick Regal awd. I went to the Cross Climate 2's after seeing your review of them. They were as expected and amazing in the snow. What I didn't see coming was they were so much easier in turning. The steering resistance was so light it completely changed the feel of my car. I'll be picking my next set of tires for my new car from the top four on this list.
I really don't understand the rolling resistance figure for the Michelin CC2. I was so happy with the CC+ that choosing the CC2 seemed like a natural choice but I saw a massive hit to fuel economy - averaged out over a few months and several tanks of fuel across local commuting and long distance journeys, it was roughly 12% worse with the CC2 compared to the CC+. Also Michelin's customer service is a sham. If you post a complaint or negative comment, they respond to say they've reached out, and they do send you an email, but they NEVER follow up when you reply tp that email.
Michelin Cross Climate 2's are FANTASIC in the wet - the best I've tried. They wear out crazy fast with their 'layered' rubber approach. Mine lasted 1.5 years, less than 25,000 miles on an AWD Genesis G80 (not crazy power, and ~300lb-ft of torque). They are poor on normal roads, very loud road noise, and very, very poor in turning. They're just OK in winter, not as good as a winter tire (they have 3 moutain peak rating) but still much better than a normal tire. I'd recommend, but they're pretty expensive for a
@@BimmerWon I am afraid that Michelin's 'guarantee' is for a tread depth of 1.6 mm, which is the lowest 'still legal' depth for tires in general. However, the winter tire requirement is around 4 mm in most EU countries. So, people may end up having to buy new 'winter' tires quite soon anyway, which kind of diminishes the 'all season' benefit...
@@mipuist dang. Well good thing I’m an American and don’t have the government breathing down my neck demanding that I need winter tires on my car. I can drive on slicks in the winter and no one can stop me! I mean… anything other than a snowbank as I drift off the road from a wind gust.
Exactly the information I'm currently researching on. As a Cupra Leon vz 300 owner at the moment that was delivered on 19" Hankook Ventus Summer tyres. We don't have much snow recently in Germany I am debating to buy all seasons for the winter instead of winter tyres, because the all season seem to perform better in wet conditions than winter tyres. I only hoped to see both of my favorite candidates in this test. The Goodyear vector 4 season gen3 and the promising Pirelli sf3.
Have the CC2 255/45/19 on a Model Y. Apart from the first set having uneven road force from the factory (up to 18 kgf across a rotation) and having to get them replaced, they have been great.
This week I am switching from CC2, had these for 3 years, (got them after watching reviews in this channel) and 38k km ( still got around 4+mm, but sides are cracked little bit and wear is uneven because of bad alignment - I got BMW :D ) to AllSeasonContact 2, after this test I am a bit scared because I will use this tire in snow and ice, but mostly in winter it's around 0 degrees and wet snow, so not that Nordic conditions. Had just enough grip with CC2's in winter, and yeah on wet road they slip quite fast so ASC2 will be improvement. I would not want worse performance in snow, looks like in R16 test ASC2 performed better. Too bad Pirelli SF3 do not come in size I want. All season tires are perfect for me, I drive only about 13k km a year, only 3k km of these are in winter months. Thanks for reviews!
Still don’t understand why most cars in the UK are running summer performance tyres when a set of good all seasons would suit 90% of people better, and prevent everything turning to carnage on the few days we get a bit of snow. Having DWS06+ on our Beemer in the PNW of Canada, this just seems much more fitting as well to a mixed climate often very wet climate place like Uk. Still don’t understand why the American all season just doesn’t exist in Europe. When/if we move back, i want a set of DWS06+ for most of the year, then the Pirelli SF3 for deep winter months trips to Scotland or even Europe where the 3PMSF will come in handy.
I've had a set of Contis ASC2 on my Polo for almost a year now and they're just brilliant : low noise, excellent MPG, great in dry & wet conditions... I've even driven them in quite deep snow and had no traction issues whatsoever. I'm still waiting to see how durable they are (some reviews mention that they wear quite fast compared to a CC2) but for now they're the best tyres I've ever used
Good point. Wear rate was missing from the test unless I missed it. Maybe it will be on the website, I'm sure he's looked at that before. And that's a very important metric as tyre these days are essentially plastic and as they wear they produce micro-platics that enter the air at street level and ebter water courses via drainage/run off when it rains. With EVs producing less CO2 emissions the focus will need to shift steadily toward microplastics as we already know they are found inside human organs. Ironically EVs, being heavier, will release more microplastic emissions than ICE cars... so it's even more important how much and what a tyre sheds.
"I don't care about you" 😢 Ngl that one hurts a little. Anyways 😄if you'd ever fancy doing a test with the ol' reliable R13 size tyres I'd really love to see it. I love 30-40 yo cars and still use those as my daily. I am curious since manufacturers were not focusing development on that size for more than a decade do those tyres still give good/decent performance or are they only good for holding air?
After 56,000 miles on 2 sets of Cross Climates - which I loved - bought based on your testing, I have just ordered a set of Pirelli SF3 and look forward to seeing how I get on with them on my Model 3. Amazing reviews. No idea how you can remember the results and talk and drive at the same time, let alone identify the myriad subtle differences in a blind test. Great work. Keep it up!
What impressed me the most was how much helpful information you packed into a comprehensive review and video under 15 minutes! Well Done! We have CrossClimate 2's and Continental PureContacts on our autos and have been pleased with both. Will definitely consider Pirelli's and the AllSeason Contact 2's in the future and looking forward to CrossClimate 3's. Thank you!
Just bought and got fitted Pirelli SF3 thanks to this test, didnt buy new set of winters. Really good tires, similar in confidence of uhp summer tires, way ahead of winter tires. I live in mild climate middle europe
For some reason he never puts it in the recent tests. The Vector 4 Gen 3 is easily one of the best AS tyres, even compared to the new Continental and Bridgestone.
Still missing the Hankook Flex-climate all-season. This is a relatively new tyre, so a test against all the established contenders is required. The Hankook is not so new you cannot get them though, so in my view this is a serious omission. You don't have anything from Hankook in your past two all-season tests. I'm also surprised you have nothing from Goodyear. Its not really a full test without all the big brands in there. As Hankook are OE fitment to VAG group, Mercedes and Volvo that I've seen, they must now be considered a big player.
What an incredible review! Thanks to you, I bought the Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 6 and I’ve had an amazing experience. They have great grip right from the start, without needing to warm them up like the Michelin, and in the rain, it feels like you're driving on dry roads! I was undecided about trying an all-season tire, and heck, they might perform better than winter tires on wet and dry surfaces! Here in Bologna, Italy, it has snowed maybe 2 or 3 days in the last two years, so I think I’ll try the Pirelli SF3 for the winter. I’ll probably feel safer for 90% of the winter season. Thanks!
Going to do the exact same, and also have F1 AS6 with the same experience! You just helped me make up my mind and order the all seasons :) Greetings from switzerland
Haha I may be the only American bloke watching this but it’s so addictive. I own a set of cross climates on my golf sport wagon and love it particularly since it’s 2 Wheel Dr. if my wife lets us upgrade to an Audi allRoad and definitely getting those all season Perelli’s. They’re called weatheractive over here in the US. excellent video, and detailed analysis, keep them coming!
;) Time is running fast. I guess, its the third or fourth season I'm watching your vids! Phantastic job, thx a lot! I know, how much work it is behind these results. I'm doing tire approvals for the industry a lot, so I have a clue of your work. Keep it up!
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I used the first Crossclimate, the goodyear 4S gen2 and gen3. Right now I have the Pirelli SF2 and it's by far my favorite so far. I'll defenitly go for the SF3 next.
Sounds silly, but I’m always looking forward to your tire reviews. Excellent job, thanks 🙏 Running CC2s on my model 3 due to you, but I will definitely consider the Pirelli’s when they are through. My only feedback would be to release this and the winter video a tad earlier as people usually get their tires changed in October (to ensure driving legally) and ordering tires takes a bit.
Bought three years ago four Quatrac Pro’s (not the new one with the plus +) for my Mazda 3 in 18 inches. Fantastic tyres, really good for the kind of winter we’ve in the north of Spain with many rainy days and a bit of snow (not above 10cm of snow). I fit them in from November to march for the cold season and the result until now is fantastic. Surprisingly good the Pirelli, I’ll get into consideration when the times comes to replace the Quatrac Pro’s.
I too had Quatrac's on my Subaru and LOVED how they handled in the rain/wet. But they had a different tread pattern (more like the Michelin's) than the ones tested here.
I don't think the SF3 is available yet in size 215/45/18. I do wish Mazda had with a diff size for the 3, can be a bit of a pain to get the find the tyres you want.
A lot of you are noticing some of the best tyres in the category are missing. Well, there is a reason for that, keep an eye on www.tyrereviews.com for news there. While you're on the site, also review your tyres please.
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Goodyear gen3 @@loreslores7116
@@loreslores7116 Wiadomo jakich. Kleberka i debicy! Great review Jonatan as usual! I am still on Kleber quadraxer 3 and the second winter still ahead of me. I am pleased that Pirelli sf3 impressed you as in all your vids it was a bit neglected and underestimated. Now some improvements have been impemented so hope to get a good feedback on Pirelli. And for those who want a good set of tires for snow I do recommend kleber Q3 theay are underestimated bbut do a great job on every kind of snow. Ya said if ya wont to a good tyre for snow go for winter tyre. I dissagree. Kleber does the job well so as CC2 does.
Why was there no Goodyear vector 4season ? Just had them fitted on my gti
@@mattyprowse4552 even though it's still excellent, it's end of life. There will be news in the coming months.
This is one of the most important channels on RUclips and should be mandatory watching for everyone! Thanks so much
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Agreed! I came here to say the same thing
what if you live in Los Angeles, Ca?
Why am I feeling excessively excited about a tire test?
I think you meant “appropriately excited” 👍
You're not alone...
because you are a rubber fetishist like we all
No clue, but im also here for it!
They're so great
One thing that people who are against all season tyres forget, is that the real main advantage of those is when you live in a climate in which you can have wildly different weather and temperatures within two, or even a single week. For example Poland or Germany. In Winter you can have -5 degrees C and a lot of snow, and very next day you can have +5 degrees and rain. And week later you somehow get +15, which can also be wet. Unless you plan on changing tyres every day depending on weather, all season will be better - it's much better than winter tyre in warm/wet conditions. And the difference is bigger then, instead of difference in most snowy scenario(which you also very rarely get in urban areas, unless you live in mountains). Same with competition against summer tyres. It csn be really bad in transitioning seasons, like early-mid spring and mid-late autumn. There's often a mix of high temperature days(for example 25 C) and suddenly a few days with minus temps. One thing you NEVER EVER want to do is to use summer tyre on cold temperatures, and a lot of people seem to either forget or simply not know that.
I'm from Poland and I totally agree with you, we have all season on both cars. These days we have 25 degrees throughout days and 5 degrees at nights.
exactly, all season tyres these days are far better than they were before. it's handy for mild winter country with various weather change
Good winter tires will work not much worse under the same conditions (early-mid spring and mid-late autumn). So it's rather about summer performance vs convenience.
And yeah, I agree with you that the main focus should be to NEVER EVER use summer tires in cold conditions.
@@illiaal1268 the general rule here is to change to winter tyres when temperature drops below 7 degrees. Now, in the morning, when people drive to work, it's 6 or 7, but no one change tyres from summer to winter yet from what I see.
Can we get an Amen !
The quality of your testing and video is outstanding! Thank you.
I totally agree with you!
I’m kind of special that i have three sets of tires (i have a garage and all the tool a need). I have what you call summer tires (or sport tires), winter tires for Swedish winter (in Stockholm) the Michelin X-Ice North 4 studded tires but also the Michelin CrossClimate 2 that i use during fall and spring.
And lett me tell you! Im very i am very impressed of how the CrossClimate performs in some conditions (compared to my studded tires). They have a very firm grip on both ice and snow.
The only times they fall behind is when its icy on the road and im going upp or down. In those situation i feel not really secure all the time. In those conditions the studded tires are almost like summer tires in feeling of grip!
Thank you
What a fantastic test. Thank you very much. Many greetings from Germany.
Wow, thank you. Glad you found it useful!
Hey Jens. Was würdest du in Deutschland nach dem Test empfehlen? Ich lebe südlich in der Pfalz. Ziemlich wenig Schnee. Daher denke ich, dass die Priorität Trocken, Nass, Glatt, Schnee liegen sollte. Ich schwanke gerade zwischen den Continental und den Goodyear Vector 4 Gen 3. Überlege aber, ob nicht die Michelin nicht vielleicht auch sinnvoll wären.
@@zidanex123 Ich lebe in Norddeutschland und wir bekommen nur selten Schnee, aber auch an solchen Tagen kann/will ich das Fahrzeug nicht stehen lassen. Ich werde im Sommer weiterhin Sommerreifen nutzen, da ich die größtmögliche Sicherheit für meine Familie will und mein VW T6-Bus voll beladen über 3 t wiegt. Für den Winter hatte ich bisher immer Continental Winterreifen und war mit denen wirklich zufrieden, aber an 98%-99% der Tage im Winterhalbjahr liegt kein Schnee und dann sind Ganzjahresreifen besser als Winterreifen. Ich brauche neue Reifen für die Wintersaison und werde deshalb ab diesem Jahr Ganzjahresreifen in der kalten Saison nutzen und Anfang April wieder auf Sommerreifen wechseln. Bei mir werden es die Conti AllSeasonContact 2, u.a. da es die Pirelli in der von mir benötigten Größe nicht gibt (VW T6 Multivan mit 255/45 R18) und und weil diese Reifen sehr ausgewogen zu sein scheinen (ohne wirkliche Schwäche).
Wenn ich in einer anderen Region in Deutschland leben würde (wo es im April noch Schnee oder im Oktober/November schon Schnee geben kann), würde ich vermutlich das gesamte Jahr über Ganzjahresreifen fahren.
@@zidanex123 Ich lebe in Norddeutschland und wir bekommen nur selten Schnee, aber auch an solchen Tagen kann/will ich das Fahrzeug nicht stehen lassen. Ich werde im Sommer weiterhin Sommerreifen nutzen, da ich die größtmögliche Sicherheit für meine Familie will und mein VW T6-Bus voll beladen über 3 t wiegt. Für den Winter hatte ich bisher immer Continental Winterreifen und war mit denen wirklich zufrieden, aber an 98%-99% der Tage im Winterhalbjahr liegt kein Schnee und dann sind Ganzjahresreifen besser als Winterreifen. Ich brauche neue Reifen für die Wintersaison und werde deshalb ab diesem Jahr Ganzjahresreifen in der kalten Saison nutzen und Anfang April wieder auf Sommerreifen wechseln. Bei mir werden es die Conti AllSeasonContact 2, u.a. da es die Pirelli in der von mir benötigten Größe nicht gibt (VW T6 Multivan mit 255/45 R18) und und weil diese Reifen sehr ausgewogen zu sein scheinen (ohne wirkliche Schwäche).
Wenn ich in einer anderen Region in Deutschland leben würde (wo es im April noch Schnee oder im Oktober/November schon Schnee geben kann), würde ich vermutlich das gesamte Jahr über Ganzjahresreifen fahren.
Ein Freund von mir fährt übrigens das gesamte Jahr über Goodyear Vector4Season 3 und ist damit sehr zufrieden.
Ich denke, mit keinem dieser Top-Ganzjahresreifen machst du etwas falsch: Die liegen alle sehr nah beieinander.
@@zidanex123 Ich lebe in Norddeutschland und wir bekommen nur selten Schnee, aber auch an solchen Tagen kann/will ich das Fahrzeug nicht stehen lassen. Ich werde im Sommer weiterhin Sommerreifen nutzen, da ich die größtmögliche Sicherheit für meine Familie will und mein VW T6-Bus voll beladen über 3 t wiegt.
Für den Winter hatte ich bisher immer Continental Winterreifen und war mit denen wirklich zufrieden, aber an 98%-99% der Tage im Winterhalbjahr liegt kein Schnee und da wären Ganzjahresreifen besser als Winterreifen.
Ich brauche im Oktober neue Reifen für die Wintersaison und werde ab diesem Jahr Ganzjahresreifen während der kalten Saison nutzen und Anfang April wieder auf Sommerreifen wechseln. Bei mir werden es die Conti AllSeasonContact 2, u.a. da es die Pirelli in der von mir benötigten Größe nicht gibt (VW T6 Multivan mit 255/45 R18) und und weil diese Reifen sehr ausgewogen zu sein scheinen (ohne wirkliche Schwäche).
Wenn ich in einer anderen Region in Deutschland leben würde (wo es im April noch Schnee oder im Oktober/November schon Schnee geben kann), würde ich vermutlich das gesamte Jahr über Ganzjahresreifen fahren.
Ein Freund von mir fährt übrigens das gesamte Jahr über Goodyear Vector4Season Gen. 3 und ist damit sehr zufrieden. Die Michelin kenne ich nicht.
Ich denke, mit keinem dieser Top-Ganzjahresreifen machst du etwas falsch: Die liegen alle sehr nah beieinander.
Driving company car in europe over 55 000 km/year , with my colleagues we are testing tires in normal condition. So far, the crossclimate 2 are higly above pirelli to me if i had to by them because of the consistency after half milage. Tested Pirelli ; michelin ; goodyear and continental on Scenic 4 ( 1.7 tons, 195mm wide 20"), and encouter every situation, from mountain in snow; mountain in hot summer in spain; very wet highway etc... Basically, every brand new tire with low mileage is good, but it became scary with less tread. Michellin keep it's consistency in the time, especially on wet highway, you can run over 140km/h under heavy rain with a 50% used tire on highway, i found the limit before with a used goodyear or pirelli. Michelin and continental also run for huge mileages over pirelli and goodyear. In snow, michelin is always far over. And finally, the noise on highway... Continental is terrible, other 3 brands are good.
I now fit Cross Climate 2s all year round and I’m just thrilled with them. Two years ago in a decent snowfall (6”, this is England after all) I went out to have an evening drive about in my Skoda Yeti 4X4. It was great fun! Coming out of a local town situated in a valley, and bypassing the mayhem of stranded and sliding cars on the hills coming out, I met a couple in a Yeti coming the other way. We stopped and had a quick chat, they were on winter tyres and doing exactly the same thing. Just driving in the snow for the sheer joy of it.
The Michelin CC2 sold in EU are not good in durability. The Thread is literaly disappearing too quickly. Was impressed in snow myself but they are not lasting much. Will not buy another set and will go a bit cheaper . Is not worth it . And new they are like 7mm. Bollocks..
@@LukeBasson Lower thread depth = ability to claim better rolling resistance figures... I guess.
@@LukeBasson *tread
@@LukeBassonsame experience here in Canada..
I have 70k miles with cc2 and still 5/32 tread left. I live in Alaska and Living in colder weather helps a lot with longevity of treads because it doesn’t wear much when there is snow or water on the road. Also it never goes above 80’F during peak summer.
It’s definitely not ideal tire for areas with short winter and gets hot during summer.
I've been purchasing my tyres according to your recommendations for a few years now and never been disappointed. I replaced my wife's summer tyres with Michelin CrossClimate 2 three months ago and I have CrossClimate on my SUV. I will have to look out for the Pirellis i future.
Glad to help!
One aspect not mentioned in this test, that was in the previous: thread wear. The Pirellis are not cheap and wear faster than most others: overal higher cost per distance.
@@Prophet1cus Perfect for people that change cars often or for when you don't drive much. I personally have never replaced a tyre because the thread was gone. It has always been because of age or lack of performance.
@@Prophet1cusi drove my sf2 for 52.000 km and had 2.3 mm tread left, so perfect could easy go 60.000km. Now my sf3 are on 13.000km droven and nooo change in thread. Should easy last for 4 or 5 years. Dont believe all the trash in Internet.
@@n4pl1k38 I simply referred to info from tyrereviews' previous test. Looking at his testing procedure, I wouldn't call it trash.
Having the winter and summer tire data is great! Really shows you what the tires are actually like, not just what the manufacturer calls them. I'm getting a set of goodyear ultragrip ice 3 nordic friction tyres for my car this winter season.
I hope to retest these again next year.
Well done with the test. I owned michelins CC+ for 4 winters then the CC2 for the last 2 winters. Both Michelins were better than most winter tyres driving on ice and snow, they felt as good as a summer tyre on cold but dry roads during winter and had good fuel economy. 4mm thread depth is a big issue in Europe for winter tyres because they ask you to buy new tyres. If Michelin chooses to only make 6.1mm of rubber thats a big weakness because you only have 2mm of useable rubber or 2 winter seasons, then they are down to 4 mm and need replacement. Goodyear 4 season gen 3 start with 8.2 mm. So you have 4.2 mm or 4 to 5 winters of tyre life.
bloody hell is it that time of year again.
Winter is coming
Thank you for this! I think testing a group of tires WITH the added context from 2 contrasting tire categories AND in multiple traction scenarios, is SUPER interesting.
Glad it was useful
Your channel is one of the most valuable here on RUclips. I have been following you for many years and just want to say thank you for your consistently great work.
Since I own several cars (including classics), your reviews have regularly helped me tremendously to make the right purchasing decisions.
Thanks!
Do we have thread longevity and performance effectiveness at like 50 percent thread life sort of tests? I think that's very important for us average users.
Thanks! I would love to do more worn testing, the issue is the expense in fairly preparing the tyres at 50% wear is quite high. 2 seasons ago I did an all season test with a wear test and a worn state test (around 2mm)
I bought Pirelli Cinturato SF3 on your recommendation, and compared to my old and cheap Tomkets, Pirelli are quiet, soft and very comfortable. I have no doubts about the excellent performance in wet and snow, because I previously put Michelin Crossclimate 2 on another car on your recommendation, and they were too amazing. Thank you very much for your work and true measurements!
This is the best version of your testing so far!
The best upgrade for your car is a good set of tires. Thanks for your excellent review!
I bought the Continental's to fit on an 18 year old 3 series a couple of weeks ago. Really happy with them, great tyres. They transformed the car massively. It was either these or Pirelli's.
what made you go for the Continentals over the Pirellis?
@@danh4538 I'm looking at the Pirellis after having Bridgestone Evo 5 all season. I was going to fit the evolution to the Evo 5, which is the Turanza 6 all season, but the rolling resistance, ride harshness, noise level and handling charactheristics are making me think twice now. (Evo 5's were decent all round, confidence inspiring in the wet, blowing through low water crossings in a car, whilst SUV's on summer tires were cautious. I can't compare to others, because they were my 1st all season tires I've fitted)
This is one of the only things I’ll drop what I’m doing to watch. Fantastic test across a huge variety of conditions - this is as real world representative as it gets!
I have the CrossClimate2. I don't mind too much if they are worse than other tires in the wet, what I care the most is hydroplaning (aquaplaning?) resistance because it makes you suddenly lose control, and the Michelin are pretty good.
I'm glad it works out for you.
Good stuff!! I bought some Cross Climate 2 a couple years ago. It used to snow a lot in Syracuse, NY, back in the old days, a few years ago. No more. So, the snow advantage goes away. Next will be those Pirellis. Thnks.
I even do not need tyres, after i have bought my all season hankooks last year thanks to you , but will watch all of it. Love your content. Keep it up!
Just bought the Pirelli's based on your test from earlier this year, happy to see that I made the right choice! Getting them fitted tomorrow and can't wait to test them. Thanks for making these excellent videos!
The Pirelli's are really underrated. They just don't have the name recognition of the Michelins
From where did you buy it ? I cannot find that model for my 20inch wheels
@@alexmoldovan1678 I bought them here in Belgium online via Autodoc
Was wondering if I should get a Set myself. Would you recommend them?
How have they been?
Thank you. I hope that viewers can appreciate just how much work and blind testing occurs behind the scenes to produce these videos.
I definitely would have liked to see the Hankook iON EVO AS tire in this test. That is an extremely popular tire now because it is so incredibly efficient and it has a great tread wear rating. However, there isn’t much data yet on how it performs in the dry, wet, and snow. Please, test that tire as soon as you can. I have that tire in the 235/45/18 size on my 2024 Highland Model 3 Performance and it is an outstanding tire so far. Efficiency is just incredible with it.
Also interested I got them after I saw a model 3 review of them on my rav4 prime. Quietest tire I’ve ever ran and I got 1-3 miles improvement, better warranty, and better grip over the oe Yokohama ones.
I get asked a lot about the iON, will work on it.
@@tyrereviews will be great to see hankook ion flexclimate as well, as it has 3PMSF rating for europe winters
@@tyrereviews How about Michelin Alpin 7?
How do they compare in terms of noise and comfort on uneven surfaces? Did you have the Michelin E-Primacy installed from the beginning? Do you have a direct comparison to them? I find that these E-Primacy tires are quiet, but they perform terribly on wet surfaces, have poor grip on dry roads, and are very hard and uncomfortable.
Goodyear vector 4seasons gen-3 is not in the test? :( I'm a little bit dissapointed.
Cause its shit!
Thank you for this thorough comparison. I just bought a set of Pirelii SF3’s based on this review, i’ll see how they feel.
I’ve done around 60k km with Michelin CrossClimate 2 on my other car and they stood the test of time incredibly well. One thing to keep in mind about Michelin though is at some point of wear they suddenly get very noisy, to the point that i though my wheel bearings were shot - turned out it was tyres. This was my experience, might not be true for others.
Greetings from Poland ;)
Curious why the Nokian WRG5 seems to never be comparison tested?
7:28 those are some interesting results! The best UHP winter tyre outperforming the all seasons, even at a temperature of 21.5c. Just looking at this result I would almost choose a winter tyre instead of an all season tyre for a mild climate winter season. Or this proves we just need UHP all season tyres?
I think the latter, we need UHP all season tyres. The UHP winters still lose out pretty heavily in braking, which is arguably more safety critical.
Would the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 be in this category?
@@pfunk34 Yes, but it is aimed at the American market and doesn't have the 3PMSF symbol. Without that it is not allowed to be used as a winter tyre in Germany for example. If only Michelin would get it a 3PMSF symbol and market it in Europe...
I use Michelin Pilot sport 4's for summer driving & Michelin cross climates during the winter months. When the PS4's start sliding as the temperature drops, put the CC's on. I live in the NE of England on the edge of the N Yorkshire moors, so winters tend to be mainly wet, slush & then snow. Last year my car was booked in for some work & it was snowing really heavily, with about 6-10cms of snow on the roads. Was overtaking cars doing 5mph & getting stuck on a few banks (including loads of Range/disco/land Rovers) it was hilarious, but I just gave them a friendly wave as I passed them all. My mechanic laughed as I pulled up as everyone was cancelling because of the weather. He drives a disco with big some funky looking winter tyres on & lives in the next village from mine.
It's like clothing, dress for the weather!
hands down, best tire reviews on the planet...
This may be niche, but I'm curious about the differences between UHPAS tires (like the Pilot Sport AS and the Conti DWS06+) versus their traditional AS counterparts. What are we really gaining and losing choosing one over the other?
Yes I also think this would have been useful to have in the review. I would have been especially interested in the Michelin Pilot Sport AS4
I just bought Pirelli SF3 for my BMW F30 330d xDrive. It's amazing in every weather condition handling the 311HP without problems.
Glad to hear that, as I just bought them for my M340iX, but was doubting a bit.
@@MM-tt7hy Post your results. I noticed the rubber to be very soft, I have a gravel driveway in front of my home and the stones stick like crazy.
I have a 330d xDrive too. I had Goodyear 4seasons fitted to mine, which I actually found to be a bit too compromised in the summer when I wanted to exploit all that performance, so ended up getting a set of Eagle F1s to run from around April-November.
I have of course completely defeated the object of an all season tyre, but think I have actually found the optimal (albeit not the most efficient) way of driving in the UK: winter-biased all season tyres for our milder winters, and a good UHP summer tyre for the rest of the year.
Good video (as usual) but where on earth are the Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen3 tyres?
And the Hankook H750s or newer.
The Hankook and the GY have updates coming very soon.
@@tyrereviews Good to hear, given both are usually up the sharp end 👍
Just had Goodyear Vector 4S Gen 3 fitted on my new car. Had them on my previous car and my wife's car. The only thing I can say having tried Michelins and Bridgestones throughout the years of driving in all conditions: this is the king of all seasons. Amen.
Totally agree got them on both my cars and my mums
@@Alencekas agreed! Have them on my Citroen C5 X7 (it's a heavy tourer so needs XL tyres) and i'm using them since mid 2021, did around 45-50k km(i would need to double check). Great tyres, saved my skin quite a few times! I feel like they are a better allrounder than CrossClimate 2, especially since they apparently also last longer.
Had them fitted to mine. The only flaw with them is how they'd get chronic understeer under sharp steering input (think a quick medium size roundabout). Load them up a bit more gently and they aren't far off in performance from the Eagle Asy 5s I had on before them
THe Gen 3 is an amazing tire, and if I'm not mistaken, due for a replacement soon
@@tyrereviews Will be interesting to see what they produce. On the tyre reviews website the Gen 3 beat out the Michelin, Continental, and Bridgestone in overall performance. I'm surprised they're not considered the de facto standard these days. Thanks for all the videos, your channel and website are an invaluable resource.
Excellent videos you make on Tyres! I recently bought the Michelin Cross climate 2 tires (tyres) and was surprised how quiet they were compared to my Factory tires (Bridge stone Ecopia 225/60 /R17 all season) I had a DB reading sensor and Cross climate 2 tyres were 1-2 db quieter ( I had written road DB readings on the Ecopia tyres while driving in 4 different designated road areas + different speeds before the Michelin CC2 were bought & installed) . I live in Northern Alberta Canada and winters last a little longer up here so I wanted a good Tyre to handle snow, ice and salt slush + puddling potholes. I'm thinking the Michelin CC2 should handle slush better and this winter I will know soon.
Hydro planing on slush passing a big truck is not a lot of fun when driving as I'm retired. Tires do make a difference and was willing to fork out a few hundred dollars more for my new 2024 all wheel Subaru Forester to have some nice tires. Watching your videos over the last few months has made me think I made a good choice. Not sure how they will handle in -40C weather travelling at 100km/hr time will tell that tale IMO.(It does get that cold in January for a few weeks sometimes for the last 30yrs I have lived here. i bought my tyres early because last winter they were hard to get quotes for my Honda pilot because certain sizes are hard to find and Michelin manufactures those CC2 in Canada, the ones I Bought were date marked 3024 (30th week of 2024)only a few months old, inventory's seem low IMO.
"Update" November 24th 2024
Well had my best winter driving test this winter with these tires on a 5 hr drive north of Edmonton Alberta Canada and drove in a area for about 2 hrs with snow , ice and Potash salt that does not freeze with about -17C and the Tyres handled very well. The middle of the 2 lane one direction highway is where the slush accumulates until the snow plow removes it and that is where Criss climate tires needed to perform from a hydroplaning event when passing large trucks and smaller vehicles a lot and the tires where all stars for that part of the drive. I would rate them 8-9/10 for my winter driving needs. Very pleased with these tyres and happy I bought them for long winters in Northern Alberta Canada! Thanks for videos, they do matter for safer driving also means less stressful a drive!
The Pirelli is sold in the US as the Cinturato Weatheractive. I have had in on my wife's WRX since last winter. Here in the Northwest US, we get about one to three weeks of snow and 6 months of rain. Temperatures also vary from below freezing to 15c from one day to the next. These higher snow traction all weather/all season tire are the best for our weather. Even summer performance is adequate, so I don't even bother with summer tires on the WRX now.
Thank you so much for including wet brake test in warm and cold weather!
My choice is Continental due to slightly better snow performance, but the Pirellis are very tempting!
It's a great time to be all season tire shopping, so much choice.
@@tyrereviews oh totally! The progress is immense. I remember two years ago when I was recommending tyres for my mom's C5 and the Michelin CC2 was an obvious choice, back then there was no better tyre. Today's choice makes me feel like we could've chosen better
@@2008tourer Not when you were needing the tyres, you couldn't. When you come round to replacing them, maybe
@@tyrereviews Why not the try the dry brake test in warm and cold weather too? I'd love to see a middle ground temperature test too around 16 degrees.
@@TwinbeeUK dry braking isn't really effected by external temps, until you get really really cold (then it's rarely actually dry)
I bought the Pirelli SF3 16" after seeing your test earlier this year, where you also said it came closest to "feeling like a summer tyre". I was shocked by how well it drives and feels! Thanks for all your effort and time on this!
Did you also owned an all season set of tires before SF3? If so, how is SF3 vs previously owners tires?
I moved to Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. My BMW X-5 had Michelin All Season tires. The first winter up there and the car AWD slipped all over. I actually bought Mastercraft Tires at Walmart, all season, and the X-5 handled great for three winters on those tires. I noticed on the Michelin All Season tires, the grooves going around the tire had stratigraphy edges from the tread pattern. The MasterCraft had slight off set edges from the pattern into the main grooves, which I feel gave the tires more bite.
I'm 1min in and this already seems like it might be the holy grail of tire test videos
Some people do not understand the impotence of tyres. This channel points out all the hick ups and gives solid advice. Thanks man for all the content
If your tyres are impotent, you could feed them viagra
As a Vredestein QT pro all season user, I can confirm the results. It's soft, ok to drive in dry, really good in wet, and I haven't tried it on snow apart from getting out of the driveway (which I had no problems with). The only reason I have them is it was the best tire I coud find for 275/35/19 in my area... But for the money, it's ok. I will however try to switch to Continental or Pirelli next time, if I find them. I don't need snow tires anymore, winters are getting hotter every year.
It looks like Pirelli did a take on the crossclimate pattern and I"m glad its worked out for them. I still have a 2yr old set of CrossClimate 2s and love them because I do live where we have snow for 5~6 months of the year (upper midwest, USA) - will consider Pirelli or just get another set of CC2s, whichever one happens to be cheaper or available in my area :)
They look nothing like them.
Thank you for the best news of the day! I'm glad now that i ordered and just received the new Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 225/40 R18 on Octavia VRS 350HP. I can't wait to test them. They will be the second set for cold weather in addition to my summer Goodyear asymmetric 6. They are replacing my old Nokian WR D4. I plan to use them 7months/year October-April and to switch on summer on warmer weather.
That will be a fun winter car, let me know how you like them
A very stock Octavia lol
Dude, fix asta vreau si eu sa fac, si tot Asym 6 am pentru vara :)). M-am cam saturat sa stau cu anvelope de iarna pe 15 grade in Ianuarie. Ai mai avut All Season iarna? Oare sunt ok cand te prinde zapada sau cand e cate o dimineata dinaia de -10 grade? Eu am un Stinger rwd.
@@andreigeorgesco Hey! Am mai avut Michelin Crossclimate+ dar nu pe Octavia și am fost super mulțumit de ele. Știu că o diferente intre ele și Pirelli, dar sunt sigur că voi fi mulțumit!
Two days ago I also fitted Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 225/40 R19 on Octavia VRS 245HP. I'm really surprised by the braking in warm climate. It's so much better than the stock fitted Bridgestone Potenza S005 in curve handling and noise level.
Best tire review channel on RUclips. In the future, it would be cool to see a test comparing the best of these tires against an On Road All Terrain tire, like the Falken Wildpeak A/T Trail.
Cool review, finally someone comparing all season directly to summer and winter thanks
I really appreciated your information in this video, I learned a lot.
I can't find Pirelli Cinturato st3 in New York City. In the US, only Pirelli Cinturato WeatherActive is available. So I have a question for you:
Is it the same technology or are they completely different?
Thank you. I will wait for your answer.
Let´s go! New video, im here instantly!
Time to bring up a video idea: Compare the best of each categorie (UHP, HP, Comfort, AT, AS, Winter, Track etc.) in each Scenario.
Me for example, I´d, like to buy an Range Rover L322 4.4TDV8, and i might get a bit into offroading. But could i do that with a Conti AS 7? Do i need the AT 2? Or do I give up on a huge amount of wet and snow grip?
Or my old SLK230, should be used for Summer only - could i put track tires on it? Or is the comfort to bad for even the drive to work by good weather? Would i swim away in a summer rain?
So with that video you could attempt to give an overview over a lot of very induvidual usecases.
Great review so far..
May i add a fundamental test in snow/slush/icy . I have been working in the Alps for 16 whole winter seasons ... no all season tyre is really tested until you have to go up a mountain/hill or going down ... hence while the police in Austria always linger at the bottom the mountain be going up... checking your tyres .. i feel testing a winter tyre on a flat frozen lake is not where the tyres come into the own .
thank you for this fantastic channel!
Based on your previous test, I purchased the Pirelli SF3. Outstanding tyre. And thanks a lot for clear english explanations. Even for not nativ speaker very easy to understand. Good Job overall. Love your videos ❤ germany is watching you 😊
Glad you like them, get a review on de.tyrereviews.com sometime :)
I honestly don't know for sure what manufacturing company makes the Blizzak line of tire.
But I was forced to put some on a 4x4 Toyota Tacoma. They looked terribly small, especially after we installed the lift kit. I will say that for the first time in my life, I watched a truck burn rubber on an icy road while towing another truck.
The wheels started to spin, and he floored it.. 1st gear, 2nd gear, then 3rd, and it began crawling across the ice, leaving 4 burn-out marks down the road...😂 I was impressed! ❤
Thats bridgestone 👍
For Winter tyres, the only ones I would consider are:
1. Nokian Hakkapelitta series. Best all round winter performance throughout the life of the tyres.
2. Vredestein. Best for areas that get more snow than any other precipitation in the winter.
3. Gislaved. Best tyres for deep snow.
Of course, this applies to cars, CUV's and SUV's. Trucks, vans and large vehicles are different.
If course...? 🙄
@claudiocosterni6488
Really? You took the time and effort to criticize me on a typo? I'm typing with one thumb, which is probably bigger than any of your appendages. Give us a break!
If you want to discuss tyres, let's... but don't bother with a freaking obvious typo (which I've corrected, in case anymore Cpt. Obvious' out there feel the need to attack the least problematic issue in a comment)
😒
@@MickPsyphon
Attack?
Have you felt attacked? 😆
Really?
You're slightly... just slightly out of your mind, or dazed by another movie.
Yes, really really! 🙄
However, I look and worry about everything in any serious discussion, always, observing at 360°, am not short-sighted with blinkers, nor hasty and distracted, and a simple input like this is often a good test to highlight what is hidden behind a big finger, a finger with defective control, which being big... obviously only gets one of the letters wrong... I instead of O... typically.
The excuse, the reasoning is flawless!
And it doesn't even sound new to me, many others invoke it...
You are one of the many who instead of thanking and correcting, get stupidly annoyed.
Take a nice cold shower, man with big thumb and a smaller brain, to cool your hot, out-of-place spirits.
Now you can consider yourself attacked.
@@MickPsyphonthe Gestapo Grammar Police get everywhere
@@petersmith7126
You ain't just whistling Dixie! 😅
I suppose they lack affirmation in their lives; and by criticizing others they experience schadenfreude to fill that void.
Hello, first of all thank you for best reviews on RUclips. I buy this year fiesta st mk8, sell 18 inch and buy 17 inch. For summer I buy tyres based on your review goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 6. For winter I choose pirelli cinturato all season sf3 tyre based also on your last review because not so much snow maybe 1 or twice, only cold in morning minus 5 degree, and i drive on winter tyres for 4 months than I change to summer tyres. Glad to see that pirelli is best tyre for my condition, plus dot 2024, about 24 euro cheaper than winter tyre like blizak lm 005, better in wet and dry. Keep on great work.
I'm still hanging on for the Michelin Crossclimate 3. Surely it can't be long now...
Viewed the previous all season tire review 07/23 and straight bought the Hangkook kinergy 4s2 245/18“. After 30tkm, passing every day a 1500m mountain on a highway to work, going to ski every weekend in wintertime, I can highly suggest this tire and confirm the excellent heavy rain behaviour. It becomes the standard for all of our cars in the family. 5mm profile is remaining.
12:52 summer tyres have the worst rolling resistance of all?
I'd be interested in seeing you test the Nokian WRG4 or the WRG5. I understand that the snow test isn't probably the most important test, as most cities and towns plow the roads. What is more critical is the drop in temperatures during the winter months and how that impacts a tires ability to handle on freezing cold roads.
Thank you for producing these awesome tire review videos.
DWS 06+ is my winter tire! And it's fantastic!
I run DWS06+ year round. They work pretty well (as long as you have sufficient tread depth). Also seem to struggle in slush compared to snow imo.
By far the best data and presentation of any tire review site - I've really come to depend on your content in my tire selection. You consistently select a good range or tires for each test and compliment the real data with your driving impressions - It makes a Huge difference in value to me, the consumer.
While I understand there are far too many tires to test them all - I do wish you could perhaps focus a review on tires available in US vs. EU. I can't go out and buy some of your Test Winners and its hard to compare a Continental or Scorpion Verde AS or Cross Contact LX25; or Pirelli Cinturato P7 SF3 (Both Available in US) to the tires from the corresponding companies in your testing (Not Available in US...).
Finally - My feedback to Tire Mfg: Make these wonderful, Test Winning Tires available in the US Please!
I'll be doing US AS and all weather next year
Awesome, as of right now the Pirelli sounds like my next purchase. It's been a long time since I bought Pirelli tires so I'm weirdly kind of excited about that.
I'm glad there's a change at the top
I use to have Cooper Zeon RS3-G1 on my 2020 Buick Regal awd. I went to the Cross Climate 2's after seeing your review of them. They were as expected and amazing in the snow. What I didn't see coming was they were so much easier in turning. The steering resistance was so light it completely changed the feel of my car. I'll be picking my next set of tires for my new car from the top four on this list.
I really don't understand the rolling resistance figure for the Michelin CC2. I was so happy with the CC+ that choosing the CC2 seemed like a natural choice but I saw a massive hit to fuel economy - averaged out over a few months and several tanks of fuel across local commuting and long distance journeys, it was roughly 12% worse with the CC2 compared to the CC+.
Also Michelin's customer service is a sham. If you post a complaint or negative comment, they respond to say they've reached out, and they do send you an email, but they NEVER follow up when you reply tp that email.
It does change about a bit with the size of tyre, you see it across the various reviews, and the sticker rating too.
Another superb review. The clear Benchmark in tire reviews in the world
Michelin Cross Climate 2's are FANTASIC in the wet - the best I've tried. They wear out crazy fast with their 'layered' rubber approach. Mine lasted 1.5 years, less than 25,000 miles on an AWD Genesis G80 (not crazy power, and ~300lb-ft of torque).
They are poor on normal roads, very loud road noise, and very, very poor in turning. They're just OK in winter, not as good as a winter tire (they have 3 moutain peak rating) but still much better than a normal tire. I'd recommend, but they're pretty expensive for a
Every test I've seen has the CC2 as pretty average in the wet so the good news is it gets even better
How did you manage to get only 25,000 miles when the warrantee is for 60,000 miles? Are you doing burnouts or something?
@@BimmerWon I am afraid that Michelin's 'guarantee' is for a tread depth of 1.6 mm, which is the lowest 'still legal' depth for tires in general. However, the winter tire requirement is around 4 mm in most EU countries. So, people may end up having to buy new 'winter' tires quite soon anyway, which kind of diminishes the 'all season' benefit...
@@mipuist dang. Well good thing I’m an American and don’t have the government breathing down my neck demanding that I need winter tires on my car. I can drive on slicks in the winter and no one can stop me! I mean… anything other than a snowbank as I drift off the road from a wind gust.
@@BimmerWon Oh, ok, then, from what I've read, US CC2s are also completely different tires to those sold in Europe.
Exactly the information I'm currently researching on. As a Cupra Leon vz 300 owner at the moment that was delivered on 19" Hankook Ventus Summer tyres. We don't have much snow recently in Germany I am debating to buy all seasons for the winter instead of winter tyres, because the all season seem to perform better in wet conditions than winter tyres. I only hoped to see both of my favorite candidates in this test. The Goodyear vector 4 season gen3 and the promising Pirelli sf3.
It is nice to see Pirelli back on top!
Have the CC2 255/45/19 on a Model Y. Apart from the first set having uneven road force from the factory (up to 18 kgf across a rotation) and having to get them replaced, they have been great.
I already know this is the best video I will watch today. And I haven't watched it yet.
'I don't care about you, but think about everyone else around you' is I think my new favourite line from a youtube video!
I’d love to see the Nitto Motivo 365 as well as the Continental DWS 06 Plus in this comparison as they both also fit this category well!
This week I am switching from CC2, had these for 3 years, (got them after watching reviews in this channel) and 38k km ( still got around 4+mm, but sides are cracked little bit and wear is uneven because of bad alignment - I got BMW :D ) to AllSeasonContact 2, after this test I am a bit scared because I will use this tire in snow and ice, but mostly in winter it's around 0 degrees and wet snow, so not that Nordic conditions. Had just enough grip with CC2's in winter, and yeah on wet road they slip quite fast so ASC2 will be improvement. I would not want worse performance in snow, looks like in R16 test ASC2 performed better. Too bad Pirelli SF3 do not come in size I want.
All season tires are perfect for me, I drive only about 13k km a year, only 3k km of these are in winter months.
Thanks for reviews!
Still don’t understand why most cars in the UK are running summer performance tyres when a set of good all seasons would suit 90% of people better, and prevent everything turning to carnage on the few days we get a bit of snow. Having DWS06+ on our Beemer in the PNW of Canada, this just seems much more fitting as well to a mixed climate often very wet climate place like Uk. Still don’t understand why the American all season just doesn’t exist in Europe. When/if we move back, i want a set of DWS06+ for most of the year, then the Pirelli SF3 for deep winter months trips to Scotland or even Europe where the 3PMSF will come in handy.
Very impressive testing! The effort spent in performing such a test is truly remarkable!
Where is Goodyear????
I've had a set of Contis ASC2 on my Polo for almost a year now and they're just brilliant : low noise, excellent MPG, great in dry & wet conditions... I've even driven them in quite deep snow and had no traction issues whatsoever. I'm still waiting to see how durable they are (some reviews mention that they wear quite fast compared to a CC2) but for now they're the best tyres I've ever used
Good point. Wear rate was missing from the test unless I missed it. Maybe it will be on the website, I'm sure he's looked at that before. And that's a very important metric as tyre these days are essentially plastic and as they wear they produce micro-platics that enter the air at street level and ebter water courses via drainage/run off when it rains.
With EVs producing less CO2 emissions the focus will need to shift steadily toward microplastics as we already know they are found inside human organs. Ironically EVs, being heavier, will release more microplastic emissions than ICE cars... so it's even more important how much and what a tyre sheds.
"I don't care about you" 😢
Ngl that one hurts a little.
Anyways 😄if you'd ever fancy doing a test with the ol' reliable R13 size tyres I'd really love to see it. I love 30-40 yo cars and still use those as my daily. I am curious since manufacturers were not focusing development on that size for more than a decade do those tyres still give good/decent performance or are they only good for holding air?
Sadly I'm not sure anyone will put the effort in for a 13" test now, it's too small a market
After 56,000 miles on 2 sets of Cross Climates - which I loved - bought based on your testing, I have just ordered a set of Pirelli SF3 and look forward to seeing how I get on with them on my Model 3. Amazing reviews. No idea how you can remember the results and talk and drive at the same time, let alone identify the myriad subtle differences in a blind test. Great work. Keep it up!
How are you finding them after a month?
No Hankook Kinergy 4S2?
Nor the Hankook Ion Flex-Climate. Go figure,,,
It was in the 2022/23 test, check that.
What impressed me the most was how much helpful information you packed into a comprehensive review and video under 15 minutes! Well Done! We have CrossClimate 2's and Continental PureContacts on our autos and have been pleased with both. Will definitely consider Pirelli's and the AllSeason Contact 2's in the future and looking forward to CrossClimate 3's. Thank you!
This is getting ridiculous! & I've got my popcorn ready 😊
What is getting ridiculous?
I absolutely love these when you include a winter and summer tire. Would also love to see how the Falken Aklimate and new Nitto Motivo 365 stack up
why not goodyear?
Just bought and got fitted Pirelli SF3 thanks to this test, didnt buy new set of winters. Really good tires, similar in confidence of uhp summer tires, way ahead of winter tires. I live in mild climate middle europe
Shame the Goodyear isn't in the test
For some reason he never puts it in the recent tests. The Vector 4 Gen 3 is easily one of the best AS tyres, even compared to the new Continental and Bridgestone.
I'm missing the Goodyear as well. One of the best current Allseason tyres.
@@illegalopinions4082 Its the tyre i see fitted most.
Is it better than the Continental? I live in Germany. So the priorities are more dry/wet and then ice, snow, I guess.
@@zidanex123 I live in germany too and just bought the Vector4Seasons Gen-3 for 3 cars 😊
I really appreciate the amount of time, effort and money that must go into producing these fantastically in-depth reviews.
Still missing the Hankook Flex-climate all-season. This is a relatively new tyre, so a test against all the established contenders is required. The Hankook is not so new you cannot get them though, so in my view this is a serious omission. You don't have anything from Hankook in your past two all-season tests. I'm also surprised you have nothing from Goodyear. Its not really a full test without all the big brands in there. As Hankook are OE fitment to VAG group, Mercedes and Volvo that I've seen, they must now be considered a big player.
What an incredible review! Thanks to you, I bought the Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 6 and I’ve had an amazing experience. They have great grip right from the start, without needing to warm them up like the Michelin, and in the rain, it feels like you're driving on dry roads! I was undecided about trying an all-season tire, and heck, they might perform better than winter tires on wet and dry surfaces! Here in Bologna, Italy, it has snowed maybe 2 or 3 days in the last two years, so I think I’ll try the Pirelli SF3 for the winter. I’ll probably feel safer for 90% of the winter season. Thanks!
Going to do the exact same, and also have F1 AS6 with the same experience! You just helped me make up my mind and order the all seasons :) Greetings from switzerland
Fun fact: Pirelli lost spring test specifically because of high wear / low lifespan. This aspect was abandoned in this test.
That’s not true, they were on third place… ☝️
Wow - this is by far the best most competent test comparison - a thousand thanks for this video!
Where are Goodyear? Who paid you to remove the best one from the whole test?
It was there in the 2022/23 test and finished 3rd after Michelin and Hankook.
Haha I may be the only American bloke watching this but it’s so addictive. I own a set of cross climates on my golf sport wagon and love it particularly since it’s 2 Wheel Dr. if my wife lets us upgrade to an Audi allRoad and definitely getting those all season Perelli’s. They’re called weatheractive over here in the US. excellent video, and detailed analysis, keep them coming!
;) Time is running fast.
I guess, its the third or fourth season I'm watching your vids!
Phantastic job, thx a lot!
I know, how much work it is behind these results.
I'm doing tire approvals for the industry a lot, so I have a clue of your work.
Keep it up!
I used the first Crossclimate, the goodyear 4S gen2 and gen3. Right now I have the Pirelli SF2 and it's by far my favorite so far. I'll defenitly go for the SF3 next.
Sounds silly, but I’m always looking forward to your tire reviews. Excellent job, thanks 🙏
Running CC2s on my model 3 due to you, but I will definitely consider the Pirelli’s when they are through.
My only feedback would be to release this and the winter video a tad earlier as people usually get their tires changed in October (to ensure driving legally) and ordering tires takes a bit.
Bought three years ago four Quatrac Pro’s (not the new one with the plus +) for my Mazda 3 in 18 inches. Fantastic tyres, really good for the kind of winter we’ve in the north of Spain with many rainy days and a bit of snow (not above 10cm of snow). I fit them in from November to march for the cold season and the result until now is fantastic. Surprisingly good the Pirelli, I’ll get into consideration when the times comes to replace the Quatrac Pro’s.
I too had Quatrac's on my Subaru and LOVED how they handled in the rain/wet. But they had a different tread pattern (more like the Michelin's) than the ones tested here.
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze it may not be the Pro's. There are other models called too Quatrac
I don't think the SF3 is available yet in size 215/45/18. I do wish Mazda had with a diff size for the 3, can be a bit of a pain to get the find the tyres you want.
This is the exact review I've been waiting for. Thanks!
Thanks for all your videos. Educates me, Saves me money, and increasing my safety for the price of my time, follow and subscribe. Loving it.
Fantastic, just what we needed to know, we are waiting for the combined overall test of all tires, thank you!