"Damn it Adé! Shay isn't wrong! Leave the poor man at peace! He's just trying to keep the precursor sites from being used like they have been!" "... Edward? Is that?... You? Why are you defending him?" "I'm not defending The Templars Adé. But I know about Shay's actions before he left the assassins and before he joined the Templars long enough to say that this hunt for a precursor site caused two earthquakes. You should know!" "You don't know what I know!" "I do Adé! The moment Achilles touches that artifact in the precursor site, a quake is going to happen! You have to believe me!" "...Father?" "Son?..." "I thought you were..." "Murdered by two men in 1736? I know well alone of it. Though I'm surprised you're actually a Templar Haytham. And a bit disappointed." "It's not what you think Father. When you died... I met this man... He..." "The man who trained you to become a Templar is the same man who sent those goons after me in 1736, Haytham. Reginald Birch is bad news." "It can't be... Then that means..." "You know it to be true, even though nothing is, Haytham. Why else was your father murdered? Because he was an Assassin. A man of peace and privilege." "If I had known sooner..." "It's not your fault Master Kenway. You like me had terrible luck on the way over to the Templars. I got shot in the back before you all found me in the snow nearly dead." "You were just a child, Son, wasn't your fault. But we need to stop the precursor sites from being found and used. If I've learned assassin history correctly, these things don't hold an Apple of Eden. Because whatever these things have been doing has said to cause total catastrophe. I remember when I once felt the urge as a pirate to dream of selling the observatory to the highest bidder." "But you learned that it wasn't worth it didn't you Captain Kenway?" "Aye, Adé. it was too dangerous to let someone know the dark secrets. I met the Sage you all know as Black Bart. and known first hand that no man such as Roberts should as much as touch that observatory. I stopped him before he could harm more innocents."
I like that ade admits that even though Edward lost his way he still saw him as an ambitious man who at the end of his journey managed to change in a big way
Edward was basically a common nobody who (though not by intention) made his with leave her well-off family to be with him out of love, and I'm fairly certain his obsession with wealth likely began with guilt over Caroline having to live the bare minimum with him. But the more he dreamed big the more he lost sight of what was important, and he wound up going off pirating for riches while his wife died from illness without his knowing... It took losing everybody else he loved right before his eyes before he finally realized what the people he lost meant to him, and he screwed his head back on straight. It was a damned good character arc, and in a way illustrated well the end of reckless freedom that Haytham was preaching as a templar in the game before. Though usually there isn't such a positive conclusion to it all, ofc...
I really liked how Rogue strongly linked together AC3, AC4, AND AC Unity. For a loosely linked anthology series, it’s really interesting to know that Edward’s decision to join the Assassins eventually resulted in events like Shay decimating the American assassins, Connor helping George Washington found the USA, Elise’s death, and Desmond’s sacrifice
If you don't think Eivor, King Aelfred, Basim, Sigurd, Barid, Ciara and others aren't great characters, then you're either blind, deaf, daft, or haven't played the games (you might be all 4 but that would be a reach, just like saying that there aren't great stories and characters in the recent games).
@@dubstrap6095 hell to the no, the story and lore is immaculate, as is the gameplay. Miss me with that AC1 rigidity and boring ass story that needs the sequels to even exist.
Unpopular opinion: the Kenway Trilogy is absolutely fucking great maybe one step beneath the Ezio trilogy but those six games are miles ahead of anything else in the franchise.
*Popular opinion. The new games are nowhere near what they used to be, especially story wise. The Ezio Trilogy, Kenway Saga and the modern day story with Desmond were amazing. Kinda sad to see what the franchise has become compared to how it once was
"Do not speak ill of your father, boy" Brought me back when we first met adewale and i played his DLC Freedom Cry his respect for Edward as a man was inmense and their friendship was remarkable.
Even though they had a little falling out one time, in the end he has immense deep respect for Edward as he was the man who freed him and served with him
The best part about their friendship to me was that, while in todays world your best friend will talk shit about you all day long but you tolerate it because they encourage you in doing fun but very stupid shit, Ade gave Edward a peace of his mind and was like “I can’t hang out with you if you’re going to be a moron. These assassins are about something good and I’d rather live my life with them than watch you throw yours away. Now that being said, we good?” Like he never held back and always encouraged Edward to be the best man he could be. And being held to that standard, Edward succeeded.
I love Adewale here, “do not speak ill of your father boy!” While Haytham is a full adult not to mention a Templar Grand Master, “boy” is still the only way to refer to him due to his disrespect.
@@silverblade357 Also Edward encouraged Haytham to think for himself and Birch basically ended up as his dad, not to mention Haytham was never an assassin
I honestly think Edward would’ve been proud of Haytham in a way, just like how Haytham felt about Connor in his dying moments. All three men showed absolute dedication to their creeds, even when it put their lives at risk, Haytham was no exception, he was the norm of the Kenway men, just like his grandfather and son.
@@sonicfan2403 Oh without a doubt, but at least he'd be proud that his son committed to something so strongly his entire life. Edward spends 90% of Black Flag running away from his calling as an assassin.
That’s the interesting thing. As Haytham said it, he’s his own man, which is exactly what Edward taught him. He never taught Haytham to be an assassin, just to find his own path.
I highly recommend reading AC Forsaken. That book cleared up so much about Haytham and it just made me ball my eyes out. One of my favourite characters without a doubt.
@@nietzschemia no one cares for Connor he’s my favorite assassin though. You actually see a person underneath the robes if you complete the game fully and not just the story mode
@@cptfreeman8966 Connor's dull and naive. He does have qualities I respect - he's really strong and honorable. But his father and grandfather are far more interesting and have better stories imo.
@@nietzschemia to be fair, he was just a traumatized boy who was far from civilization and only had achilles to learn from. Other protagonists had many helps to made them grow as a person.
So the American people would've lost the revolution without Connor's help. That would mean the french nobility would've stayed in power for a bit longer. No french revolution. If unity didn't happen then the assassin's and Templars would've found some peace.
Edward would’ve been disgusted with the way the colonial assassins were operating. And if Edward was still alive during this then Haythem wouldn’t have been a Templar
The Colonial Assassins under Achilles were basically a domestic terrorist organization... the making of chemical weapons to use on civilians, using blood thirsty killers as servants and messing with artifacts which have the potential to cause devastating natural disasters. Chevalier and Kesegowaase are excellent examples of the kind of men whom Edward and Ezio would despise.
@@Ozzie_MandiasExcept the Templars weren’t much better. William Johnston was willing to kill Native American tribal leaders to get what he wants and Charles Lee would’ve exterminated Connors entire tribe if he had his own way.
It would've been cooler if there was a cut scene with Shay and Adewalé fighting. Only for Ade to come out on top (despite his age). Then Haytham would come in. They start fighting while Adewalé talks about Edward. Eventually Haytham would win and with Adewalé's last breath he tells Haytham something deep about his father. It's so effecting that It looks like Haytham has a look of doubt or regret about his path for a few moments before Shay comes in and snaps him out of it.
That WOULD have been a more fitting end for Ade. Got chills on the last part. I’m more ambivalent about Haytham than any other AC character. I always wished he’d shown more self-doubt and inner conflict because of his father’s legacy. Haytham’s character is far more complex and interesting than Shay’s in my opinion. Or Connor’s for that matter.
@@nietzschemia That would've been sick. Haytham is definitely the most interesting character outside of the main characters. 1. His father was an assassin. 2. He didn't kill Reginald Burch when he found out. 3. He was ready to kill his son the first time he encounter him. 4. He let his son kill him. And so on...
@@nietzschemia in AC III between Haytham's sequence and meeting them as Connor, all the Templars changed to show their worst traits. Lee was rageful and narcissistic, church and hickey were greedy, Johnson had good intentions but ends justify the means, and finally Haytham simply became controlling ruthless. But if I had taken out an entire brotherhood, I'd get cocky too
Drink? No no, you don't want that... Conner: Freedom *is* peace. Haytham: Oh no. It's an invitation to chaos. Just look at-- Edward (drunk): 🎶I DREAMED A DREEEAM THE OTHER NIIIGHT. *LOWWLAANDS. LOWLAND AWAAYY--* Conner: It seems his tongue has tasted sour grapes. Haytham: *This* is why the Templars can never be-- Edward: LET'S HAVE ANOTHER SONG, LADS!
Edward wouldn’t necessarily argue, he’d be the mediator. Keeping it from escalating because he’s a pilot he doesn’t give a crap about the Templar or Assassins 😅
Why is everyone saying that Adewale despised Edward? They were effectively brothers, yes they had a falling out; even then there was mutual respect and admiration for one another. Yes he was upset with Edward at the Assassins hideout for leading the Spanish there, Edward makes up for it
@@gendengraven5049 No I just watched the mission man, it definitely was a Spanish assault! However the Captain in charge of the invasion was indeed British, so depending on how you look at it you could say the British spearheaded the assault!
It's confusing that people came to that conclusion. They have a falling out because Edward only cared about plunder while Ade comes into his own higher Philo. He still most likely helped in some capacity to get Edward out of prison, returned his ship to him that he only took because eds actions almost got them all killed and asks him to join the assassins because he still deeply respects him. There really is no negative feelings between the two by the end and its undoubtable that after all they did together taht they were one anothers closest friend. Even the frustration ade gives in later life about how Edward was only interested in plunder is a minor point to his deep affection for his time with Edward which he said he would never trade for anything and he swam down into the ocean to keep the jackdaw head as a souvenir of their time together.
@@yodabaki970 My points exactly! As I said they viewed each other as friends, brothers, confidants, there was never any real stigma between them. Adé was annoyed because he saw the good in Kenway, who he himself was reluctant to release
Reginald killed Edward and he lied to Haytham to think the Assassins had betrayed his father so he could join the Templars, later Haytham finds out the truth and kills Reginald for lying.
@@hectorserna0610 I feel like he believed in obtaining peace through order and the templars were the only way for him to achieve that. He wanted to shape the world for the better rather than allowing civilisation to dictate its own course
I was hoping Ubisoft would explore more Templar games with different mechanics. I really liked this change of pace from the typical "formula" the devs have been using.
Yeah it's too bad the mechanics are the same, it would be awesome if Ubisoft actually emphasized the differences between how the Assassins and Templars operate
rogue dont feel like a templar game...you are more like a vigilante... We want a templar creed game...where you play as a real templar...it would be really amazing...and I wish we could get a beard/hair growth system and outfit shops like in typical open world games
Hated Haytham except for his humour , but when i read the book, his past was ... very traumatic and full of betreyal it was only at the end of his life that he realized all the lies and in AC3 you can see him, starts to believe in the creed fighting along side Connor but he died white the same beliefs of a templar.
He was brought into the templar order with a lie but believed in their ideals and ways nontheless so even when he learned the truth about Edward he wouldn't switch sides
@@paulghencea9037 yeah,he killed birch for what he had done to Edward and his sister but even after learning the truth and killing him he stayed with the templars nontheless because he believed in their ideals
Why do people say Adewale "despised" Edward? He never despised him, he was disappointed in him that Edward was selfish and sought riches so they went their separate ways. When Edward did the right thing and committed to right his wrongs and become a Assassin, Adewale was proud of him.
Rogue still one of my favorites. There will never be another game like it. Don't know what Ubisoft is thinking by throwing all their characters away so soon. Oh well. To the good times.
@@Artok444 I think you'd be surprised. The Assassins were actual bad guys in this game. I would say the death of Adewale is the only unwanted one, but everyone else seemed justified. One of the most interesting stories written in the series
@Artok444 If you support the colonial branch of the brotherhood, before Connort came, then, you're an idiot for wanting to side with an arrogant fuck like Achille. Minus Adewale.
0:46 I had a tough time with this part of the game. After seeing the pivotal role Adéwalé played in Black Flag and Freedom Cry, it felt unethical to Kill Adéwalé. You can even sense the the anguish on Patrick's face after he kills Adéwalé. I shared that same sentiment with Patrick because I felt stuck between a rock and a hard place. Should I kill Adéwalé? Should I let him survive because I just played the entire game Freedom Cry as Adéwalé? Ubisoft completely flips the script on you in this game. For the longest time, the Templars were villains, and Assassins were heroes. In Rogue, it truly felt like there was this gray area that was explored. Maybe just maybe there is some good with certain Templars and evil with certain Assassins. There is no one side that is immaculate. Requiescat In Pace 👍
I mean when you're playing "numbskull" in present day and collect the tablets that show some of oten bergs inspirations some of them were assassins that went corrupt
Things always will be black and white if you just see one side of the war. It's just like Skyrim, no matter who you choose everyone will loose in the end.
@@BatmanDCEU Valhalla is mostly hated by ppl who never played it i played all AC games for past 6 years in the perfect order and put around 130 hours in Valhalla it's definitely a great game and isn't that bad
@@okami9039 if you look past everything AC stands for and don't care about a coherent story, the RPG games are decent, yes. If you replay the old ACs tho, you will realize how important storytelling is in the immersion. The older games feel like stories instead of games. The new one are regular grind RPGs
"do not speak ill of your father, boy!" Adewalé despises Edward but he gained his respect again when he changed He honors Edward but sad to see Haytham didn't followed his father's footsteps
@@asphyxiatedAlready it's because Edward when he wasn't an assassin he was a man who just thinks of himself and that's what it led to Adewalé despising him it's because of Edward being selfish and greedy
@@Berserker3624 yeah they made up when Edward became an assassin he redeemed himself from any wrongdoings he did to the Assassins that's why he respected him again
Ade NEVER despised him, he respected and liked Edward from the start, only when he became more of an assassin is when he started to respect Kenway even more
I still love Haytham. Even tho he became a templar, he still fought for what he believe of. I didnt played Rogue to know about it, but I played AC3 and watching he speaks about the assassins and how they fight nowadays for an idea of freedom while he was fightig for real freedom makes me side with him so bad, even after his death.
Because of he did not he would have find really deep regrets so not to feel that just denie what the other side says. Not really a great personality trait but a human one
The Kenway Saga was the series' peak for me. Shame Ubisoft didn't end it with a proper finally. Also, just remembered how disappointed I was when Unity wasn't about Connor. I mean, Arno's cool, but his narrative overall felt lackluster compared to the games before and Rouge.
he would be ashamed for what you have become. really? i didn't know my father ever had sense of shame. badass quotes been delivered between haytham and adewale
Apparently AC Rogue was gonna be about Haytham but they already made a book about haytham’s life (AC Forsaken) so they decided to make a new character. Shay.
Haytham: blessing or curse, I am my own man Me:well then you can’t be all surprised when your own son thinks the same about you in the near future. I find it ironic.
This is good stuff. Crazy how a secret war between Assassins and Templars can even split family apart. Connor and Haytham had no desire to kill one another but were forced to fight because of their different ideals in achieving peace. And then there was Haytham killing his own Grand Master out of vengeance for Birch killing Haytham's Assassin father Edward and selling his sister to Turkish slavers. Yet Haytham still sided with the Templars after all that.
I’d humor a retcon, maybe when Shay was a young apprentice he foolishly got a man killed, that man being Edward, which then leaves Haytham orphaned and groomed by Birch to be a Templar. Shay is guilt ridden and decides to leave especially seeing how “corrupt” the Assassins have become, game carries on as the original, now with a new potential plot point between Haytham and Shay.
The 17th/18th Century Americas Saga was pretty dope honestly. Cool and interesting characters such as the ones in this game, the Kenways, Aveline, basically the entire cast of 4, all with their own and interconnecting storylines weaving across and shaping the early Americas
The Kenways shed such a bright light to the grey-ness of this conflict. The Assassins really did fuck up in the Americas, and these cast of characters are so dynamic, and the Templar angle with rogue really shed a lot of light on it.
"Blessing or curse, I am my own man." I think that's probably what Haytham respected most about Connor, and knowing he would probably be the only one to survive him, held back his blade.
Assassin or Templar, Order or Hidden Ones... They are both problematic, and need to work together to sort the world out. Neither is true good, or evil. Balance is needed.
the only good assassin you kill in rogue was adewale.... the other assassin you killed was an indian, a pirate, a woman, and another man... literally 0 significance to the assassin's creed franchise... unless you have a loose definition of "best assassins"
If Edward had lived (besides the obvious of Haytham being raised as an Assassin) I feel like the Colonial Brotherhood wouldn’t have been nearly as corrupt. He probably would’ve immediately defended Shay, being one of the only Assassins at that point who lived to see how dangerous the Precursor technology was.
Edward truly was good man and a wonderful father to Haytham Adewale was right he would be ashamed of what Haytham have become Adewale was Edwards best friend that Was one of the greatest friendships of all time
Replaying AC rogue on my series X at 4k 60 and holy fuck i love it. The combat both Shay and naval, the world, being a Templar, all the characters that are referenced, the ending which connects Unity to the rest of the games, etc. Such an underrated game
Haytham would’ve become an assassin if Edward had told him about the templars and the assassins. He actually didn’t find out Edward was an assassin until he had already become a templar. He was taught the skills of an assassin but was groomed to have the morals of a templar.
I love how Haytham was always like "feelings are for pussies", but the only reason he died is he had a genuine fatherly love to his son he barely even knew
Haytham deep down was always emotional and remember his father's teaching about thinking for himself first. All of his personality that is stoic and cold are just to maintain his image as templar grandmaster, hell the first thing he do after finding out who betrayed his family was to hunt him and avenge his father so ofc he got some soft spot for connor.
Adewale is like Master Gibbs from the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. Both were quartermasters and deeply loyal and devoted to their respective captains of the ships.
Haytham steals the spotlight every second he's on screen my GOD. He made Connor look like a friggin child. He had a terrifyingly perfect balance of good and bad character traits, one of the greatest characters in an assassins creed game.
@@wolfric951 in year 1763 i suppose. he indeed did it. with her sister guidance Jennifer scout(actually she likes to be called scout after her mother death)
@@wolfric951 misunderstanding. i confirmed what you said haytham killed reginald for hiding the truth about his father death. it all explained on Assassin's Creed Forsaken Book
These games are so great to go back and play chronologically now that they’re all out. I did a playthrough of 4, then Freedom Cry, then the Haythem prologue of 3, then most of Rogue, then the rest of 3, then Liberation bc I didn’t know where exactly to play it during 3, and then finally the end of Rogue, which then lead to my Unity playthrough.
The main thing I miss about the old assassins creed games is the combat and parkour but mostly combat miss the counter kill system and the flashy animations
honestly I liked haytham kenway, I know alot hated him but he was a great character. he sorta betrayed the templars at the end tho but that was because of his son, he could've killed connor which would've made lee flee safe. but he managed to make connor kill him, I think he knew it wasn't going to slow down connor but he wanted to think that way so he thinks he never betrayed the templars
One thing that pissed me of about this game is that they just switched the codes of the assassins and the tempelars around to fit the storytelling. Adewale would never have supported an organization that killed innocents
The problem is, is that Adewale was likely stuck in between the BS Achilles pulled when he allied with the French, the same people Adewale fought back at Freedom Cry. And I don't think he fully knew what Achilles and his Brotherhood were doing (Remember, he was mostly operating at the Caribbean by that time), and yes he wouldn't have aided Achilles at the first place because on how they operate
Did you know that Haytham Kenway is the main character in the Kenway saga because he appears in the Assassin's Creed trilogy, 3, Black Flag and Rogue. same as Ezio Auditore.
Could've been but Connor was indeed the most reformed one. He had no knowledge of politics yet he believed in his true instincts. Unlike Edward who was after money and Haytham who was after the Precursor site , Connor Only Fought for Freedom and Peace. Never had his personal emotions be the reason of his decisions. Truly A Great Man!
Rogue was such a good game very short but fun, the only game where I felt I didn't want to do any side quest that's a bad thing, the fall of Lisbon was supposed to feel impactful but it was a meh we didn't even get to explore it aside from it getting destroyed. you didn't even get to know or befriend the assassins before hunting them down that was a miss opportunity to make their deaths sad or memorable, and when you get to fight them it was stupidly easy, specially adewale just sneak up behind him and the legendary assassin is dead just like that. Great game, good story, phenomenal voice acting, very pretty environment from the Atlantic to Newyork, a lot of miss opurtunities in the story that would've made it so much better (we couldve ended up with hope and nothing would've changed 👉👈). Fun playing as a templarand setting the stage for ac unity. 6/10
I think Haytham respected and loved Edward but like he said to Ade, he is his own man. Edward chose his path to become an assassin while Haytham chose his path. Edward would probably be proud of his son.
@@zillagrilla315Hell no. Edward would be sickened by it all. He did not travel across the sea killing pirates, just for his son to turn out like this? He would be so proud of Connor.
I decided I wasn’t going to play this purely for this reason. I like that they did it from the reverse side of things (and my understanding is that the templars were actually on the right side in this particular game) but the fact that you have to kill Adewale is something I just don’t want to do 😂
@@nietzschemia yeah I had stopped playing the new ones by this point (decided I was going to reply the others) so a friend of mine actually told me what happened and I was like “ain’t no way I’m killing Ade” 😂
I respect haythem for being his own man and having his own path because I myself am always compared to my father in terms of personality but I'm whole different person different interests morals and beliefs.
I am a huge AC fan and prefer the pre -origin games, however I did enjoy origin. Odyssey on the other hand was too grindy and pointless side missions. But some of the other also had some pointless and repetitive stuff. (looking at stalking missions) But the combat and the non -existing stealth/parkour system was really off putting. Everything went less realistic. No fall damage. Hack and slash (lighter than air) combat and over use of fantasy. (I know pieces of Eden were always a thing but it was just to some point which made it feel like: mmm maybe there is something like that (I know there isn't but it felt realistic). Every single aspect that made AC1 and AC2 a 'WOW' factor in the gaming industry is now gone. ----------- That is why I say they butchered the franchise. (even though I enjoy newer ones to some extend. For those that say : "Ok boomer fan whatever" , Well how do you thing fans will react if the next Call of duty game is a third person hack and slash?
For everyone who's calling aldewale the only good assassin in this game is incorrect he launch a attack with french ships, attack other people, he sided with the brotherhood even though alll of assassin's broke there Creed, he still went on with it. And they betrayed shay even though he was right about the temple the in tire time. I still feel bad for killing him, other's but some people don't understand because they didn't play this game
I think that's the point. To show that the Assassins are not always the good guys, despite their good intentions. Shay WAS right about Temple but wrong to turn against his brothers. You can never trust a turncoat.
He had every Right to turn on his brothers especially if they shot in back, betrayed him. Also the temple is reason he did everything to save everyone from assassin's who clearly are idiots.
"You dare beg forgiveness, child? Hell welcomes traitors like you."
"Then I go there proudly, knowing i have done right."
Damn that hit hard
@@StudMacher96 It is true. Captain Jack Sparrow himself said that "The deepest circle of hell is reserved for betrayers and mutineers."
"Damn it Adé! Shay isn't wrong! Leave the poor man at peace! He's just trying to keep the precursor sites from being used like they have been!"
"... Edward? Is that?... You? Why are you defending him?"
"I'm not defending The Templars Adé. But I know about Shay's actions before he left the assassins and before he joined the Templars long enough to say that this hunt for a precursor site caused two earthquakes. You should know!"
"You don't know what I know!"
"I do Adé! The moment Achilles touches that artifact in the precursor site, a quake is going to happen! You have to believe me!"
"...Father?"
"Son?..."
"I thought you were..."
"Murdered by two men in 1736? I know well alone of it. Though I'm surprised you're actually a Templar Haytham. And a bit disappointed."
"It's not what you think Father. When you died... I met this man... He..."
"The man who trained you to become a Templar is the same man who sent those goons after me in 1736, Haytham. Reginald Birch is bad news."
"It can't be... Then that means..."
"You know it to be true, even though nothing is, Haytham. Why else was your father murdered? Because he was an Assassin. A man of peace and privilege."
"If I had known sooner..."
"It's not your fault Master Kenway. You like me had terrible luck on the way over to the Templars. I got shot in the back before you all found me in the snow nearly dead."
"You were just a child, Son, wasn't your fault. But we need to stop the precursor sites from being found and used. If I've learned assassin history correctly, these things don't hold an Apple of Eden. Because whatever these things have been doing has said to cause total catastrophe. I remember when I once felt the urge as a pirate to dream of selling the observatory to the highest bidder."
"But you learned that it wasn't worth it didn't you Captain Kenway?"
"Aye, Adé. it was too dangerous to let someone know the dark secrets. I met the Sage you all know as Black Bart. and known first hand that no man such as Roberts should as much as touch that observatory. I stopped him before he could harm more innocents."
@@v.k.rt.m.6030 Where is this from?
"Do not speak ill of your father, Boy!"
Adewale's bond with Edward was beyond great
Although he didnt like edward much in the end
@@jukkaputtonen4797 although he did like Edward in the end this video proves it
@@CAESAR-yj6ms end of the black flag he despises edward
@@jukkaputtonen4797 no he doesn’t he forgives him
@@jukkaputtonen4797 he’s simply frustrated they’re views are different to each other
I like that ade admits that even though Edward lost his way he still saw him as an ambitious man who at the end of his journey managed to change in a big way
Edward always was a good man he was simly clouded by wealth.
Edward redeemed himself at the end, Ade knew he became one of the good guys (one of the best even)
@@jackdaw3088 but for a good cause
Edward was also majorly responsible for the assassins in England. A lot of his work was undone after his death though
Edward was basically a common nobody who (though not by intention) made his with leave her well-off family to be with him out of love, and I'm fairly certain his obsession with wealth likely began with guilt over Caroline having to live the bare minimum with him. But the more he dreamed big the more he lost sight of what was important, and he wound up going off pirating for riches while his wife died from illness without his knowing...
It took losing everybody else he loved right before his eyes before he finally realized what the people he lost meant to him, and he screwed his head back on straight. It was a damned good character arc, and in a way illustrated well the end of reckless freedom that Haytham was preaching as a templar in the game before. Though usually there isn't such a positive conclusion to it all, ofc...
I really liked how Rogue strongly linked together AC3, AC4, AND AC Unity. For a loosely linked anthology series, it’s really interesting to know that Edward’s decision to join the Assassins eventually resulted in events like Shay decimating the American assassins, Connor helping George Washington found the USA, Elise’s death, and Desmond’s sacrifice
Shay decimated the colonial assassin's not the American
@@cheez3184 that’s a useless nitpick and you know it
@@lucasrobin2788 I like pointing out useless nitpicks, it's oddly fun, I'm sorry if I have offended you, please find it in yourself to forgive me
@@cheez3184 Are you genuinely stupid or just stupid on purpose
Shay didn't decimate ANY assassins. He demolished. Decimate means reduce by 10%.@@cheez3184
Remember when Assassin's creed used to have great characters and stories? Good times
If you don't think Eivor, King Aelfred, Basim, Sigurd, Barid, Ciara and others aren't great characters, then you're either blind, deaf, daft, or haven't played the games (you might be all 4 but that would be a reach, just like saying that there aren't great stories and characters in the recent games).
Rember when the games where about assassins instead of Vikings?
What about Origins? It literally became one of the best games.
@@MAP233224 Valhalla is trash as an assassin's Creed game
@@dubstrap6095 hell to the no, the story and lore is immaculate, as is the gameplay. Miss me with that AC1 rigidity and boring ass story that needs the sequels to even exist.
I miss Edward Kenway
Me too!
@@nietzschemia and Haytham. And connor.
@@Anagh1701 I don’t miss Connor.
@@nietzschemia ok. I miss the aquila
I actually do miss Edward and Connor
If Edward was still alive, he would've knocked some sense back into the assassins.
A lot.
True that is why every group corrupts
If Edward still alive, Haytham would never become a Templar
@@madechandra5246 oh yeah, I remember. Edward was training him to be an assassin
@@Anagh1701 Yesss exactly,and that Birch bastrd just ruin everything
Unpopular opinion: the Kenway Trilogy is absolutely fucking great maybe one step beneath the Ezio trilogy but those six games are miles ahead of anything else in the franchise.
*Popular opinion. The new games are nowhere near what they used to be, especially story wise. The Ezio Trilogy, Kenway Saga and the modern day story with Desmond were amazing. Kinda sad to see what the franchise has become compared to how it once was
Facts, Ezio trilogy is about one man whose story spans 5 decades while the Kenway trilogy is about a family whose story spans 7 decades.
The 6 games are better than the newer ones.
Ezios last game was utter shit tbh
@@danielcristianescobar8157 agreed. The rest are awesome though
"Do not speak ill of your father, boy"
Brought me back when we first met adewale and i played his DLC Freedom Cry his respect for Edward as a man was inmense and their friendship was remarkable.
Even though they had a little falling out one time, in the end he has immense deep respect for Edward as he was the man who freed him and served with him
The best part about their friendship to me was that, while in todays world your best friend will talk shit about you all day long but you tolerate it because they encourage you in doing fun but very stupid shit, Ade gave Edward a peace of his mind and was like “I can’t hang out with you if you’re going to be a moron. These assassins are about something good and I’d rather live my life with them than watch you throw yours away. Now that being said, we good?” Like he never held back and always encouraged Edward to be the best man he could be. And being held to that standard, Edward succeeded.
Yes
I love Adewale here, “do not speak ill of your father boy!” While Haytham is a full adult not to mention a Templar Grand Master, “boy” is still the only way to refer to him due to his disrespect.
its not because of disrespect. its because ade knew haytham when he was a kid.
edit: also because ade is way older than haytham.
Haytham only achieved his rank and became "his own man" by betraying his family to their hated enemies.
@@silverblade357 Eh the Templars are cooler.
@@silverblade357 Also Edward encouraged Haytham to think for himself and Birch basically ended up as his dad, not to mention Haytham was never an assassin
@@twinzzlers not really even when the Templars are far more powerful then the Assassin's they still lose
"Blessing or curse, I am my own man!"
Haytham to this day still remains as the best Templar.
I honestly think Edward would’ve been proud of Haytham in a way, just like how Haytham felt about Connor in his dying moments. All three men showed absolute dedication to their creeds, even when it put their lives at risk, Haytham was no exception, he was the norm of the Kenway men, just like his grandfather and son.
Unfortunately I think he would still be devastated by what Haythem has become in terms of ideology.
@@sonicfan2403 Oh without a doubt, but at least he'd be proud that his son committed to something so strongly his entire life. Edward spends 90% of Black Flag running away from his calling as an assassin.
@@sonicfan2403 not 100% his fault though. I read it somewhere that he was basically tricked into joining Templars after they murdered Edward
That’s the interesting thing. As Haytham said it, he’s his own man, which is exactly what Edward taught him. He never taught Haytham to be an assassin, just to find his own path.
Don't know if you would be really proud of your son becomes that what you fought against
I highly recommend reading AC Forsaken. That book cleared up so much about Haytham and it just made me ball my eyes out. One of my favourite characters without a doubt.
I plan to read that. My only worry is that I don’t care that much for Connor. But I’d read it for Edward and Haytham.
@@nietzschemia Most of it is from Haytham's perspective, actually.
@@nietzschemia no one cares for Connor he’s my favorite assassin though. You actually see a person underneath the robes if you complete the game fully and not just the story mode
@@cptfreeman8966 Connor's dull and naive. He does have qualities I respect - he's really strong and honorable. But his father and grandfather are far more interesting and have better stories imo.
@@nietzschemia to be fair, he was just a traumatized boy who was far from civilization and only had achilles to learn from. Other protagonists had many helps to made them grow as a person.
1:29 Haytham: "You had enough?"
If Shay had been successful here... ACIII, Unity and Syndicate would have turned out quite differently. XD
Syndicate? how? (seriously curious)
@@lyndongaming Edwards house
@@kaizko7404 ah yes, thanks
So the American people would've lost the revolution without Connor's help. That would mean the french nobility would've stayed in power for a bit longer. No french revolution. If unity didn't happen then the assassin's and Templars would've found some peace.
What do you mean?
“He would be ashamed to see what you have become.”
Adewale got a point there.
Edward would’ve been disgusted with the way the colonial assassins were operating. And if Edward was still alive during this then Haythem wouldn’t have been a Templar
@@darthnater9731
True.
@@darthnater9731
It’s true but still Edward would be very upset for his son.
The Colonial Assassins under Achilles were basically a domestic terrorist organization... the making of chemical weapons to use on civilians, using blood thirsty killers as servants and messing with artifacts which have the potential to cause devastating natural disasters. Chevalier and Kesegowaase are excellent examples of the kind of men whom Edward and Ezio would despise.
@@Ozzie_MandiasExcept the Templars weren’t much better. William Johnston was willing to kill Native American tribal leaders to get what he wants and Charles Lee would’ve exterminated Connors entire tribe if he had his own way.
It would've been cooler if there was a cut scene with Shay and Adewalé fighting. Only for Ade to come out on top (despite his age). Then Haytham would come in. They start fighting while Adewalé talks about Edward. Eventually Haytham would win and with Adewalé's last breath he tells Haytham something deep about his father. It's so effecting that It looks like Haytham has a look of doubt or regret about his path for a few moments before Shay comes in and snaps him out of it.
That WOULD have been a more fitting end for Ade. Got chills on the last part. I’m more ambivalent about Haytham than any other AC character. I always wished he’d shown more self-doubt and inner conflict because of his father’s legacy. Haytham’s character is far more complex and interesting than Shay’s in my opinion. Or Connor’s for that matter.
@@nietzschemia That would've been sick. Haytham is definitely the most interesting character outside of the main characters.
1. His father was an assassin.
2. He didn't kill Reginald Burch when he found out.
3. He was ready to kill his son the first time he encounter him.
4. He let his son kill him.
And so on...
@@alexconnor9884 haytham did kill birch him and his half sister kill him together
@@nietzschemia in AC III between Haytham's sequence and meeting them as Connor, all the Templars changed to show their worst traits. Lee was rageful and narcissistic, church and hickey were greedy, Johnson had good intentions but ends justify the means, and finally Haytham simply became controlling ruthless. But if I had taken out an entire brotherhood, I'd get cocky too
@@alexconnor9884 Actually, he did kill Birch. Read forsaken
I’ve always wanted Edward Connor and haytham to have a drink and just talk about life and see how the argument goes 😂
Drink? No no, you don't want that...
Conner: Freedom *is* peace.
Haytham: Oh no. It's an invitation to chaos. Just look at--
Edward (drunk): 🎶I DREAMED A DREEEAM THE OTHER NIIIGHT. *LOWWLAANDS. LOWLAND AWAAYY--*
Conner: It seems his tongue has tasted sour grapes.
Haytham: *This* is why the Templars can never be--
Edward: LET'S HAVE ANOTHER SONG, LADS!
@@timothyjohnson5699 yes that’s exactly what I want 😂
Edward wouldn’t necessarily argue, he’d be the mediator. Keeping it from escalating because he’s a pilot he doesn’t give a crap about the Templar or Assassins 😅
@@DgardsGaming but didn’t he agree with the assassins ideals and join them by the end of the game ?
@@christianhenson6924 But he didn't really, he went with the freedom stuff cause well he's a pirate.
Why is everyone saying that Adewale despised Edward? They were effectively brothers, yes they had a falling out; even then there was mutual respect and admiration for one another.
Yes he was upset with Edward at the Assassins hideout for leading the Spanish there, Edward makes up for it
British*
@@gendengraven5049 No I just watched the mission man, it definitely was a Spanish assault!
However the Captain in charge of the invasion was indeed British, so depending on how you look at it you could say the British spearheaded the assault!
@@reachgaming5106 oh damn, I say british because the guard were in red 😂
It's confusing that people came to that conclusion. They have a falling out because Edward only cared about plunder while Ade comes into his own higher Philo. He still most likely helped in some capacity to get Edward out of prison, returned his ship to him that he only took because eds actions almost got them all killed and asks him to join the assassins because he still deeply respects him. There really is no negative feelings between the two by the end and its undoubtable that after all they did together taht they were one anothers closest friend. Even the frustration ade gives in later life about how Edward was only interested in plunder is a minor point to his deep affection for his time with Edward which he said he would never trade for anything and he swam down into the ocean to keep the jackdaw head as a souvenir of their time together.
@@yodabaki970 My points exactly! As I said they viewed each other as friends, brothers, confidants, there was never any real stigma between them.
Adé was annoyed because he saw the good in Kenway, who he himself was reluctant to release
If Edward had not been killed by Regenald, then most likely Haytham had grown up an assassin
Reginald killed Edward and he lied to Haytham to think the Assassins had betrayed his father so he could join the Templars, later Haytham finds out the truth and kills Reginald for lying.
@@hectorserna0610 but haytham still a templar. He even become the first grandmaster in America.
@@theone5576 yeah, that's the funny part.
@@atomic747 he already know the truth what behind his father's murdered but what make hin stay is because he believes in templar ideology.
@@hectorserna0610 I feel like he believed in obtaining peace through order and the templars were the only way for him to achieve that. He wanted to shape the world for the better rather than allowing civilisation to dictate its own course
I was hoping Ubisoft would explore more Templar games with different mechanics. I really liked this change of pace from the typical "formula" the devs have been using.
Yeah it's too bad the mechanics are the same, it would be awesome if Ubisoft actually emphasized the differences between how the Assassins and Templars operate
Trash templars 😒
@@lalhmangaihsanga7264 both sides are right but there ideologues clash, who ever wins doesnt make much difference.
@@KMSARC Exactly my thoughts no side is right or wrong. Just different.
rogue dont feel like a templar game...you are more like a vigilante...
We want a templar creed game...where you play as a real templar...it would be really amazing...and I wish we could get a beard/hair growth system and outfit shops like in typical open world games
I Love Adewale. He is powerful with words, and with action.
little details like this are SO cool
Your fallout guides still help me to this day 😊
@@Slhuman77 ahh thanks dude! Super glad I could help 😁
We REALLY needed a full game with Haytham as the protagonist.
Well we already got half a game with Haytham as your character...
@wom1320 Personally, I think a prequel would have been great, especially with Haytham being a well-liked character in the community.
Hated Haytham except for his humour , but when i read the book, his past was ... very traumatic and full of betreyal it was only at the end of his life that he realized all the lies and in AC3 you can see him, starts to believe in the creed fighting along side Connor but he died white the same beliefs of a templar.
He was brought into the templar order with a lie but believed in their ideals and ways nontheless so even when he learned the truth about Edward he wouldn't switch sides
@@phienixverbeure5945 He did Kill Birch tho so that's something
@@paulghencea9037 yeah,he killed birch for what he had done to Edward and his sister but even after learning the truth and killing him he stayed with the templars nontheless because he believed in their ideals
The book had no right being as good as it was
@@phienixverbeure5945 Man of principle
I always thought it was a shame they didn't do more here. Adewale realising Haytham was a Kenway would have been a powerful scene
Why do people say Adewale "despised" Edward? He never despised him, he was disappointed in him that Edward was selfish and sought riches so they went their separate ways. When Edward did the right thing and committed to right his wrongs and become a Assassin, Adewale was proud of him.
Lol the shooting at the end
love how he shot haytham
He was like "don't talk shit about your father, boy".
Rogue still one of my favorites. There will never be another game like it. Don't know what Ubisoft is thinking by throwing all their characters away so soon. Oh well. To the good times.
After Origins Ubisoft became Ubishit
@@Batman-db2vv You said the truth Batman. I just play the Ezio and Kenway collections now.
I probably wouldn't have much fun playing Rogue. Killing all these Assassins and I hate both Shay and Haytham.
@@Artok444 I think you'd be surprised. The Assassins were actual bad guys in this game. I would say the death of Adewale is the only unwanted one, but everyone else seemed justified. One of the most interesting stories written in the series
@Artok444 If you support the colonial branch of the brotherhood, before Connort came, then, you're an idiot for wanting to side with an arrogant fuck like Achille. Minus Adewale.
0:46 I had a tough time with this part of the game. After seeing the pivotal role Adéwalé played in Black Flag and Freedom Cry, it felt unethical to Kill Adéwalé. You can even sense the the anguish on Patrick's face after he kills Adéwalé. I shared that same sentiment with Patrick because I felt stuck between a rock and a hard place. Should I kill Adéwalé? Should I let him survive because I just played the entire game Freedom Cry as Adéwalé? Ubisoft completely flips the script on you in this game. For the longest time, the Templars were villains, and Assassins were heroes. In Rogue, it truly felt like there was this gray area that was explored. Maybe just maybe there is some good with certain Templars and evil with certain Assassins. There is no one side that is immaculate. Requiescat In Pace 👍
I mean when you're playing "numbskull" in present day and collect the tablets that show some of oten bergs inspirations some of them were assassins that went corrupt
Things always will be black and white if you just see one side of the war. It's just like Skyrim, no matter who you choose everyone will loose in the end.
Now that was pretty undercomplex
Who Tf calls Shay “Patrick”
@@alejandroo978Lol i call Edward "James" because i can.
1:06 That dialogue is better than Valhalla's full story
Sadly, yes.
Someone here didn't play Valhalla then
@@okami9039sorry but it's still true regardless of playing Valhalla or not
@@BatmanDCEU Valhalla is mostly hated by ppl who never played it i played all AC games for past 6 years in the perfect order and put around 130 hours in Valhalla it's definitely a great game and isn't that bad
@@okami9039 if you look past everything AC stands for and don't care about a coherent story, the RPG games are decent, yes.
If you replay the old ACs tho, you will realize how important storytelling is in the immersion. The older games feel like stories instead of games. The new one are regular grind RPGs
"do not speak ill of your father, boy!"
Adewalé despises Edward but he gained his respect again when he changed
He honors Edward but sad to see Haytham didn't followed his father's footsteps
Why did he despise edward, I thought they were mates
@@asphyxiatedAlready it's because Edward when he wasn't an assassin he was a man who just thinks of himself and that's what it led to Adewalé despising him it's because of Edward being selfish and greedy
@@cjvipinosa3328 but I thought later on they made up and became friends again since Edward redeemed himself to the assassins and even became one.
@@Berserker3624 yeah they made up when Edward became an assassin he redeemed himself from any wrongdoings he did to the Assassins that's why he respected him again
Ade NEVER despised him, he respected and liked Edward from the start, only when he became more of an assassin is when he started to respect Kenway even more
I still love Haytham. Even tho he became a templar, he still fought for what he believe of. I didnt played Rogue to know about it, but I played AC3 and watching he speaks about the assassins and how they fight nowadays for an idea of freedom while he was fightig for real freedom makes me side with him so bad, even after his death.
Because of he did not he would have find really deep regrets so not to feel that just denie what the other side says. Not really a great personality trait but a human one
Nah he still sucks so does his traitors. Glad Connor put him out of his misery
The best part is when you instinctively shot Haytham in the end lmfao.
Yeah no one gets to speak ill of Grandpa Kenway...
The Kenway Saga was the series' peak for me. Shame Ubisoft didn't end it with a proper finally.
Also, just remembered how disappointed I was when Unity wasn't about Connor. I mean, Arno's cool, but his narrative overall felt lackluster compared to the games before and Rouge.
Rouge Imao
Bitch please, Kenway saga was shit. Only AC:III was alright. The rest sucked ass.
@@venomm4563 history will not see it that way
Peak was with ezio and the only kenway I liked was Edward
From what I can read connor didn't really do much after 3. He got married but later got divorce and just lived in solitary.
he would be ashamed for what you have become. really? i didn't know my father ever had sense of shame. badass quotes been delivered between haytham and adewale
Haytham deserved a full game dedicated to him. It would be nice if the story of that imaginary game began right after Edward's death.
Apparently AC Rogue was gonna be about Haytham but they already made a book about haytham’s life (AC Forsaken) so they decided to make a new character. Shay.
Haytham: blessing or curse, I am my own man
Me:well then you can’t be all surprised when your own son thinks the same about you in the near future. I find it ironic.
Well at least Edward's grandson chose the right path. And he became the captain of his own ship too. Edward would be proud.
Haytham saying "but I am my own man" just. Goated villain
This is good stuff. Crazy how a secret war between Assassins and Templars can even split family apart. Connor and Haytham had no desire to kill one another but were forced to fight because of their different ideals in achieving peace. And then there was Haytham killing his own Grand Master out of vengeance for Birch killing Haytham's Assassin father Edward and selling his sister to Turkish slavers. Yet Haytham still sided with the Templars after all that.
damn tbh, it'd be even more deep if you had to kill edward as shay
I mean yeah
But I don't think Edward would have held the"ends justify the means" mindset Adewale and the order got
Hell naw i would throw away the game. I REFUSE
Edward has been dead ever since Haytham was a Child
I’d humor a retcon, maybe when Shay was a young apprentice he foolishly got a man killed, that man being Edward, which then leaves Haytham orphaned and groomed by Birch to be a Templar. Shay is guilt ridden and decides to leave especially seeing how “corrupt” the Assassins have become, game carries on as the original, now with a new potential plot point between Haytham and Shay.
@@freetothink284 No.
The 17th/18th Century Americas Saga was pretty dope honestly. Cool and interesting characters such as the ones in this game, the Kenways, Aveline, basically the entire cast of 4, all with their own and interconnecting storylines weaving across and shaping the early Americas
Assassin's Creed : Rogue seriously needs a sequel ..
It can't be left behind just like that
What can be showed? He lived to an old age trained his son and grandchildren.
The only thing I can think of happening in a sequel to rouge is a fight between shay and arno @@lockinggone7862
Haytham Kenway was the most charismatic character in AC series 🤚🏻
The Kenways shed such a bright light to the grey-ness of this conflict. The Assassins really did fuck up in the Americas, and these cast of characters are so dynamic, and the Templar angle with rogue really shed a lot of light on it.
"Blessing or curse, I am my own man."
I think that's probably what Haytham respected most about Connor, and knowing he would probably be the only one to survive him, held back his blade.
Assassin or Templar, Order or Hidden Ones... They are both problematic, and need to work together to sort the world out. Neither is true good, or evil. Balance is needed.
It was sad to see killing all of the best Assassin's
the only good assassin you kill in rogue was adewale....
the other assassin you killed was an indian, a pirate, a woman, and another man... literally 0 significance to the assassin's creed franchise... unless you have a loose definition of "best assassins"
@@arnoldinho.mp4 yeah you right
Literally adewale was the only assassin to be respected
Adiwale speaking of Edward make us emotional by remembering the memories of their past and their brotherhood....
If Edward had lived (besides the obvious of Haytham being raised as an Assassin) I feel like the Colonial Brotherhood wouldn’t have been nearly as corrupt. He probably would’ve immediately defended Shay, being one of the only Assassins at that point who lived to see how dangerous the Precursor technology was.
he was not part of the colonial brotherhood nor would he be
I love how you instantly started to fire at haytham
Edward truly was good man and a wonderful father to Haytham Adewale was right he would be ashamed of what Haytham have become Adewale was Edwards best friend that Was one of the greatest friendships of all time
Replaying AC rogue on my series X at 4k 60 and holy fuck i love it. The combat both Shay and naval, the world, being a Templar, all the characters that are referenced, the ending which connects Unity to the rest of the games, etc. Such an underrated game
Haytham would’ve become an assassin if Edward had told him about the templars and the assassins. He actually didn’t find out Edward was an assassin until he had already become a templar. He was taught the skills of an assassin but was groomed to have the morals of a templar.
I love how Haytham was always like "feelings are for pussies", but the only reason he died is he had a genuine fatherly love to his son he barely even knew
Haytham deep down was always emotional and remember his father's teaching about thinking for himself first. All of his personality that is stoic and cold are just to maintain his image as templar grandmaster, hell the first thing he do after finding out who betrayed his family was to hunt him and avenge his father so ofc he got some soft spot for connor.
If Edward was alive, he would have shrugged it of and said "We can't give freedom to everyone if we don't allow a child to choose his destiny"
Gosh how i love these lines from Haytham !
Adewale is one of my favorites assassin's even though he is a side character and main character in the dlc
At least he was killed by someone skilled like Shay. Edward was somehow killed by a mercenary. Doesn’t make sense.
Ty for shooting Haytham at the end even though it didnt kill him 🤣
These Templars are more of an assassin than whoever the MC of Odyssey and Valhalla are.
Couldn't agree more
the "DO NOT SPEAK ILL OF YOUR FATHER BOI!"
shows that ade was really good friends with Edward like best friends
It is ashame to see haytham reduced to this A FOUL TEMPLAR
The Colonial Rite of the Templar Order was right, the Colonial Brotherhood of Assassins were definitely the bad guys lol
@@wakeful452 atleast Connor turn that tables LoL
May the father of understanding guide us
@@TheLaughingKvn May the Father of Understanding guide us
I can see we have some Templars in this thread..
May the Father of Understanding guide us. 🧐
Edward is definitely a top 3 main character in all of the ac games
I read the title, and my heart dropped. Only playing Asssassin's Creed Black flag, I couldn't do it.
Rogue is hella underrated
Other than this scene and AC4 gameplay, I think it’s underrated for a good reason.
I hate how Edward died as well, but I suppose it makes sense. Not every assassin is going to die of old age like Altair or Ezio
Wait I thought the only reason Edward lost to birch's mercs was because he was old,how could he die young
@@jcceno4273 he was only in his 40’s when he died, he was ganged up on and got stabbed in the chest while it was dark.
Adewale is like Master Gibbs from the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. Both were quartermasters and deeply loyal and devoted to their respective captains of the ships.
When assassin's creed was assassin's creed
I swear i really dislike origins, odyessey and vahalla. Im just too addicted to stop playing
@@wuyiwanis3181 origins was good compared to odyssey and vallhala, those two were trash honestly they didnt gave me those AC vibes
@@wuyiwanis3181 origins was pretty good, Odyssey and Valhalla are just trash
@@sohaibamir4699 It was good because of Bayek.
Haytham steals the spotlight every second he's on screen my GOD. He made Connor look like a friggin child. He had a terrifyingly perfect balance of good and bad character traits, one of the greatest characters in an assassins creed game.
i like how you shoot haytham in the end🤣
years later AC3 Connor kills his father to avenge his family and Grandfather Edward
Haytham didn't kill Edward. Reginald Birch did, and after learning that Haytham killed Reginald.
@@wolfric951 in year 1763 i suppose. he indeed did it. with her sister guidance Jennifer scout(actually she likes to be called scout after her mother death)
@@mahditeymuri5650 haytham was born in 1725, and edward died in 1735.
@@wolfric951 misunderstanding. i confirmed what you said haytham killed reginald for hiding the truth about his father death. it all explained on Assassin's Creed Forsaken Book
@@mahditeymuri5650 oh.. sorry, and thank you
I still remember that moment 😰
I was hesitant on killing Adewale but i had no choice..it had to be done to further continue the story 🥺
This was the best outfit in rogue really gave as an assassin/ninja feel when free roaming.
Its So Sad seeing Adewale die like this
He was a Good and Strong Man.
Damn Ac storyline was so good before Odyssey and Valhalla
Two guys who really knows about friendship and respect CJ & Adewale
CJ?
@@nietzschemia Carl Johnson from GTA San Andreas game
@@harshvardhangodara5852 I thought so. But didn’t get the reference.
Edward kenway deserves a trilogy as ezio 😕
Edward Kenway -> Hytham Kenway -> Connor Kenway
Ubisoft made a whole bloodline
@@radheymishra6089 but I want Edward as the main protagonist in all 3 games
@@ajaydhiman9318 na bhai vo nhi ho paye ga
At least a sequel. Edward was pretty cool.
@@SpectreStatus men what about bayek?
Back whem AC was amazing. 🥺
These games are so great to go back and play chronologically now that they’re all out. I did a playthrough of 4, then Freedom Cry, then the Haythem prologue of 3, then most of Rogue, then the rest of 3, then Liberation bc I didn’t know where exactly to play it during 3, and then finally the end of Rogue, which then lead to my Unity playthrough.
Hollow has the best reaction to this scene....so wholesome
Man, I wish we could've got another Edward Kenway game, with another awesome story, a bigger, more upgraded Jackdaw and a bigger variaty of weapons
Sad to see Edward losing Haytham this way, but must be so proud to see Connor go the right way! Even better one at that!
this game is spectacular such a shame it was so short
The main thing I miss about the old assassins creed games is the combat and parkour but mostly combat miss the counter kill system and the flashy animations
honestly I liked haytham kenway, I know alot hated him but he was a great character. he sorta betrayed the templars at the end tho but that was because of his son, he could've killed connor which would've made lee flee safe. but he managed to make connor kill him, I think he knew it wasn't going to slow down connor but he wanted to think that way so he thinks he never betrayed the templars
I love how you shot Haytham twice at the end after he insulted Edward.
One thing that pissed me of about this game is that they just switched the codes of the assassins and the tempelars around to fit the storytelling. Adewale would never have supported an organization that killed innocents
The problem is, is that Adewale was likely stuck in between the BS Achilles pulled when he allied with the French, the same people Adewale fought back at Freedom Cry. And I don't think he fully knew what Achilles and his Brotherhood were doing (Remember, he was mostly operating at the Caribbean by that time), and yes he wouldn't have aided Achilles at the first place because on how they operate
Love that you tried to shoot haythem for talking about Edward 🤣
Did you know that Haytham Kenway is the main character in the Kenway saga because he appears in the Assassin's Creed trilogy, 3, Black Flag and Rogue. same as Ezio Auditore.
Could've been but Connor was indeed the most reformed one. He had no knowledge of politics yet he believed in his true instincts. Unlike Edward who was after money and Haytham who was after the Precursor site , Connor Only Fought for Freedom and Peace. Never had his personal emotions be the reason of his decisions. Truly A Great Man!
Rogue was such a good game very short but fun, the only game where I felt I didn't want to do any side quest that's a bad thing, the fall of Lisbon was supposed to feel impactful but it was a meh we didn't even get to explore it aside from it getting destroyed. you didn't even get to know or befriend the assassins before hunting them down that was a miss opportunity to make their deaths sad or memorable, and when you get to fight them it was stupidly easy, specially adewale just sneak up behind him and the legendary assassin is dead just like that. Great game, good story, phenomenal voice acting, very pretty environment from the Atlantic to Newyork, a lot of miss opurtunities in the story that would've made it so much better (we couldve ended up with hope and nothing would've changed 👉👈). Fun playing as a templarand setting the stage for ac unity. 6/10
I love how the guy playing decided to shoot Haythem after he spoke ill of Edward😂🤣
Poor haytham. If only that damn Reginald didn't indoctrinate him, he would still resepect his father
I think Haytham respected and loved Edward but like he said to Ade, he is his own man. Edward chose his path to become an assassin while Haytham chose his path. Edward would probably be proud of his son.
@@zillagrilla315Hell no. Edward would be sickened by it all. He did not travel across the sea killing pirates, just for his son to turn out like this? He would be so proud of Connor.
Ezio and Edward deserved to live much more than one life on this earth
I decided I wasn’t going to play this purely for this reason. I like that they did it from the reverse side of things (and my understanding is that the templars were actually on the right side in this particular game) but the fact that you have to kill Adewale is something I just don’t want to do 😂
I didn’t know until I had to do it. I kept hoping they’ll decide to let him go. 🤬
@@nietzschemia yeah I had stopped playing the new ones by this point (decided I was going to reply the others) so a friend of mine actually told me what happened and I was like “ain’t no way I’m killing Ade” 😂
I respect haythem for being his own man and having his own path because I myself am always compared to my father in terms of personality but I'm whole different person different interests morals and beliefs.
I am a huge AC fan and prefer the pre -origin games, however I did enjoy origin. Odyssey on the other hand was too grindy and pointless side missions. But some of the other also had some pointless and repetitive stuff. (looking at stalking missions) But the combat and the non -existing stealth/parkour system was really off putting.
Everything went less realistic. No fall damage. Hack and slash (lighter than air) combat and over use of fantasy. (I know pieces of Eden were always a thing but it was just to some point which made it feel like: mmm maybe there is something like that (I know there isn't but it felt realistic).
Every single aspect that made AC1 and AC2 a 'WOW' factor in the gaming industry is now gone. ----------- That is why I say they butchered the franchise. (even though I enjoy newer ones to some extend.
For those that say : "Ok boomer fan whatever" , Well how do you thing fans will react if the next Call of duty game is a third person hack and slash?
I like how you tried to shoot Haytham
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For everyone who's calling aldewale the only good assassin in this game is incorrect he launch a attack with french ships, attack other people, he sided with the brotherhood even though alll of assassin's broke there Creed, he still went on with it. And they betrayed shay even though he was right about the temple the in tire time. I still feel bad for killing him, other's but some people don't understand because they didn't play this game
I think that's the point. To show that the Assassins are not always the good guys, despite their good intentions. Shay WAS right about Temple but wrong to turn against his brothers. You can never trust a turncoat.
He had every Right to turn on his brothers especially if they shot in back, betrayed him. Also the temple is reason he did everything to save everyone from assassin's who clearly are idiots.
@@TemplatedWolf Also him: can kill innocents as a Templar.
i like how you just started shooting Haytham when he disrespected Edward
Is it just me or whoever was playing got mad and shot him when he shit talked Edward
no he definitely shot him for that