1st, thanks much for all these Trio Plus videos-all are helpful. I’ve used it since it came out, with 2nd Digitech pedal) lately more in a multitrack recording workflows. I have the same love/hate relationship most have for it. Digitech seems to have taken it to its end, and abandoned it for SDRUM. It’s versatile enough to demand a real screen and a real (tabletop) user interface. (You have to memorize too many non intuitive button click/hold actions). The worst part is lack of easy channel separation for Bass & drums, and real song management; it’s often too easy to accidentally delete a song. But I still use it occasionally, and like it’s mixer routing option, and am hoping they upgrade it sometime.
Good point sir. Thanks for sharing. Recently bought one of these. The best creative unit that I have seen in years for guitarists, especially for the price. Really like the sequencer! Spending the time to learn the unit’s functions makes all the difference. Your vids are most helpful. 😎
These pedal manufacturers produce an amazing product but fail to promote its practical applications in depth. You provide proof that the will and intellect of individuals can overcome the totalitarian nature of the Borg!
Love this thing to tighten up my timing if I haven't picked up guitar in a while. My setup is MIXER OUT to a QSC K12 for bass/drums, sounds great very real with K12 ....and AMP OUT to a Fender DLX. I tried several configurations to to stereo, but alas, no dice. The best workaround for stereo is to use a separate additional looper.
Presumably you could route the mixer out to an aux input on a small amp like a micro cube and the guitar to the main input so you get clean bass and drums
Very good video. I forgot that u can use both the mixer and amp output. Thanks a lot. Its even better than using the effectslooop. The sounds are much more clearer by using the mixer out.
i have commented on a few of your other videos asking how to do just this. so ignore those lol. thank you great video. id like to get me a powered speaker so i dont have to use the whole pa just to jam.
I set this up in a very unique way that sounds great. l use the top output on my Trio+ to go out to a pair of 10 foot separated studio monitors, I made a simple Y cable from guitar cable. The mixer out going directly into an amp. It works. The monitors do a FAR better job at showcasing the drums and especially the cymbals are crystal clear. The bass while not super deep is very nice and tight. A guitar amp was never meant to be hi-fi like that. Sounds a bit muddy IMHO and I am running high quality tubes, etc. My monitors have tweeters and are FRFR. First I lay down my single note or simple 7th chords using downstrokes (Band button.) Then I stop it and arm the LOOP button. When I play a note, it kicks right in. Then while it is playing back, I can solo over it using my pedal board which goes out to two more amps so I have 5 powered speakers in total. I sit in a triangle configuration- the surround sound is crazy great. Here is the kicker. I also play a Godin xTSA that has 3 outputs (Acoustic, Electric and Synth.) That means, I have two guitar cables plugged in at the same time so I can play everything together while bypassing the pedalboard signal to the Trio+. I had tried the recommended Effects Loop set up but it was buzzing and was not impressive. Others have said the same. Trio+ likes things simple and clean. So from my Godin, use the super clean, piezo pup to feed it a clean signal for learning. When I solo, I raise the volume on the electric pup, lower the piezo (same guitar.)
@@titichartay7216 You are in for a treat if you use BOTH and blend accordingly. Definitely have two separate rigs/circuits. One is your electric pedal board only. The other is acoustic only. This goes out to your studio monitors and acoustic amp (AB/Y splitter and Y cable for your acoustic amp.) The Trio+ loves monitors for the cymbals. This sounds far better than an amp. On the Trio+ I have a Golden Reverb in front of it using the onboard FX loop.
I have over 100 videos I have made with mine. Check out some of them and hear what this thing is capable of. And I only have used minimal programming, mostly live on the fly with no pre planning songs.
It would be nice if you could use both plugs but still route the looper to go to the mixer, so one could loop some clean guitar or whatnot there, but then send some solos directly to an amp that has nice built-in overdrive. Better yet, if each overdub could be routed separately. Just have to bypass the Trio+ with the lead guitar, I guess, or stick with pedals for OD and FX. Maybe they could do it all with a firmware upgrade, though?
Hi Tommy. That's a good idea for sure. Hopefully there will be a firmware update at some point. Who's to say. Be sure to check out our first Trio Tuesday tomorrow!
Hey a quick and maybe dumb question. The "amp" and "line" outs are really a great and clever trick. One thing that has always bothered me about loopers is the fact one often plays overtop of the recorded tracks through the same amp. I often will record to a BOSS Looper and then play the tune back through a separate amp. Just sounds better. My question is, what would happen if I ran the "line out" to a separate guitar amp rather than a mixer board? This way I could have the guitar part going to one amp and then the drums and bass to a different amp and then I could play through my own amp! I just got a TRIO+ yesterday...
Xhefri Guitars that would probably work but I would suggest using an A/B box in front of the TRIO so you can route your lead playing off to the other amp. Make sense?
@@ThePedalGuy Yes it does make sense. I was just wondering about impedance, but I do not think that is a concern coming out of the line side. I can EQ it with the amp...kind a. LOL! But to your concept of an A/B Box switch is a great idea! What I have been doing is recording into a looper which is on it's own amp and then unplugging from the looper and going from my stomp boxes and into a different amp. That is what I was planning on doing with the TRIO. Bit of a pain but works. All of this is laziness on my part. I have a nice recording studio and can lay down tracks there and play back to them there, but I like doing stuff on the fly in my amp room (out in a shop) when I just want to practice. I really do not want to go and boot up the whole recording system if I just want to goof around for 30-45 minutes. :-)
Hey Pedal Guy!...Not bad once again but I’d like to ask why you set up your Guitar Fx straight in the unit when a “Send & Return” input/output are supplied and recommended for use of pedalboards??? Even the manual suggests so...as to have better control of the unit’s tracking ability for “the band” function and Looper mix of FX when making the loops!...🤔✨🎶🎸🎛 Absolutely love playing/working with mine!!..& really enjoy the challenge of producing cover tunes & original tunes on it!..🎸🎶🎛👏🏾☺️👍🏾
FlamesAt1000ft thanks for the question. Actually we are using the fx send/return here in this setup. I just wasn’t mentioning it here as that’s covered in another video. The purpose of this video is to show you how to use an amp in your trio plus setup. I absolutely agree that if you intend to use this pedal in a full blown pedalboard you must use the fx send/return for the best possible results. Hope that helps.
ThePedalGuy Yes,..I see then so I stand corrected!!..👌🏾 Diggin’ your channel so keep’em coming ok!! My next suggestion of tutorial on this cool-ass ✨🎶🎛pedal is to demonstrate more clearly the benefits of better “Loop Production”...by showing just how to “balance/mix/blend recorded loops on the Trio+ via volume level adjustments when “layering” / Overdubbing voices or instruments. Doing this really increases the fun/satisfaction factor of the functionality of the unit/pedal. Done right,..advanced planning of recording process & practice will pay off with nice & cool sounding MicroSDs loaded with killer impressive tunes!!...✨🎶🎸🎛👍🏾 The Digitech Trio+ is remarkably fantastic pedal for ANY Musician and capable of covering ANY genres so I highly recommend it for anyone’s arsenal of musical gear! A+ Digitech!...✨🎶🎛👏🏾👍🏾🤣💕
CarpetPro thanks for the suggestion. We’ve got a laundry list of videos to shoot but due to the amount of feedback we’ve received on this series we would like to come back and revisit when we get a chance.
I have watched several of the Trio sessions from you and noticed that you connected a TRS cable for the input….I looked through the questions so forgive me if I missed the explanation of why.vs a TS cable….was this to attempt to achieve the cleanest input possible? Thanks!
Since I'm using a audio interface device and my workflow is centered around my DAW, I use both mixer and amp output to jack in to my audio interface (mine has two instrument inputs), make sure I create two instrument tracks and go ham with death metal riffs. Yes no maybe so?
Currently running a Marshall DSL 40 with a Joe Walsh compressor pedal engaged. And I am thinking of getting this. Can I pair and run this with those said machines? Everything running through the amplifier? Or would I need anything seperate once I get this? What would you recommend bro?
Yea this should work. You’ll probably want to route the bass and drums to the aux input of the amp to keep those as clean as possible. And I have the trio in stock if you’re in the US
Scott this was a great tutorial. I am a beginner to audio recording. I am new to Trio + and don’t have a mixer and pedal chains, I’ve been using both amp out and connecting the mixer out to an Alto Tx208 PA for speaker cabinet. Using an XLR with TRS audio cable from mixer out. Hoping you could provide clarity as to the line level. Is this set up considered an unbalanced connection from the mixer out to PA? Is this considered the same as a guitar instrument connection? Or is this considered balanced coming out of the Trio. Appreciate some guidance and Appreciate all you do. Thanks
G'day, this demo just answered my question and it looks like I can use my pedal/effects board plugged into the Control on the Trio Plus and the guitar is plugged into the Effects board (BOSS ME 80) and then the AMP is plugged into the AMP left hand side of the Trio Plus. I don't have a mixer so it would be the AMP on Clean. It does'nt really matter what guitar you use initially until you have played and practiced with the Trio.. Like your demo is the mixer a PA unit?
Grateful for your videos. Can you advise the proper way to connect for my configuration. I have a guitar, Fender Acoustisonic amp, mic, Voicelive Harmony Gxt, Digitech Trio Plus and a Line 6 Pod GO,
Thanks for the question. That's quite a list of gear. Basically, the Voicelive would not be routed to the TRIO. That's simply for guitars. The POD Go would be routed to the TRIO.
So I want to practice with the trio+ with my own effects pedals in a chain with my amp only, no mixers is that possible? Just got mine in and still trying to learn, appreciate your vids!
Great informative video. Thinking of getting a trio+ for Christmas. I’m currently using a digitech rp360, clean tube setting, into return only of my katana with great results. Should I connect guitar>360>trio>return of katana, or put trio before 360? Is there any other way of connecting trio still using RP360? Thanks
Hi, your video are Very helpful but I can’t understand clearly how to connect Trio plus directly to an amp avoiding the band/looper to be affected by a distortion or other effects when used. I have no mixer, I just want to go inside the amp directly. The amp has no send/return. Could you explain how connect?
But if you are using a multitrack recorder, you would want separate channels. For instance the drum/bass output to the mixer/recorder and the guitar output to a separate channel/track. I wouldn’t want everything on one track. I’m still new to the TRIO and I don’t know if running the drum/bass output to the mixer or multitrack recorder would have their own separate tracks or channels??? Please give advice? Thanks
I want to get one of these pedals but are you saying I need to get a separate speaker for the pedal? If I plug into my amp it would be all messed up because my effects are in my amp. I would like to set up a rig like yours one day but that means I would also be buying a more simplified combo amp.
Hi. No you don't need a separate amp, but if you are using an amp with two inputs, I would recommend sending the bass and drums to the clean channel to ensure that it sounds good.
The Pedal Guy Thanks for the reply. I have an Akai EIE Pro interface that I use to record onto a MacBook. I wonder if I could output the bass and drums to that, than connect my little studio monitors. They will probably have a bigger range than a bass amp. You’ve got me thinking now!!
HELP pedal guy just got my trio + and used it once and now will not arm and tempo light will not come on wont play any thing wont arm . i did try a reset that you had on here thank you
I'm using Mustang LT25 amp. Amp has preset distortion, overdrives, fuzz, etc. If I want clean bass - drums sound when playing overdrive - distortion on my guitar I have to use Guitar in Trio+, Trio+ out to the amp and Trio+ out to mix and that would do ? Thanks
What's puzzling me is why you have to plug your pedals in the loop. You can plug your effects serial then teach without effects, and do what you want, isn't it ? The trio (not +) have no fx loop and it works...
Can you put the trio as the last pedal on the chain so you can not get all the pedals messing with the bass drum sound. then you dont have to put through effects loop. Like i do with my looper pedal. It just goes off to the amp as the last one in the chain.
Hi! I have a problem with my Marshall DSL. I record the loop with the clean channel. Then, when I play the lead guitar with the ultra gain channel, the clean loop changes into ultra gain. That means, that the loop is depending of the amp channel. Is there a solution?
So I have to have a mixer to use this besides just an acoustic amp, acoustic electric guitar, mic, and the trio+? - If so, can you recommend a good mixer for the job? Thanks, newbie to the trio+ here...
My amp has an effects loop. To prevent the Trio’s rhythm loop part from getting distorted when using gain on the amp, can I plug the Trio + in the effects loop of the amp instead of the amplifier’s input, bypassing the amp’s preamp stage and straight into the power section? i,e. Amplifier Send > Trio guitar in > Trio amp out > amplifier’s effects return. I will then send the Trio’s mixer out to a mixer for the drums and bass. Will that work?
That may have spotty results if you're distorting with the amp. I've been playing around with mine the past few days using heavier distortion and the learning mode doesn't work. Now, I can't confirm this would work on all amps but the following chain may work. This is what I use with my Firehawk FX acting as my amplifier. Trio guitar in > Trio FX send > Any pre-amp pedals like OD > Amp/FX Processor guitar in > Amp/FX Processor FX send > Any other FX pedals you'd typically place in an FX loop > Trio FX return > Trio Amp out > Amp FX return. The advantage that I've found from this chain is that if you have nothing to plug the Trio Mixer Out to, the drums and bass will come out cleanly through your amp and your loops will retain the amplifier/FX processor tone you recorded with if you wanted to change your amp's channel, that should still work.
I have a question... Where do you put this peddle in the single chain on your peddleboard?? Second question What do you do if your just running 1 amp , no mixing board ?? Do just run the amp output to amp? Will it distort when you turn on a distortion peddle?? I need the bass and drums to be clean then I want to add distortion for solos.. Example My ditto looper works great at the end of my single chain. All my effects are before the looper. That way I get a clean single and when I click a distortion peddle it does not distort the first loop I looped.. Does the Trio do this or do you have to have a mixing board for it to work properly?? Sorry for the long text.. Hope you understand my jebberish... Greetings!👍
Unfortunately it doesn't work in stereo. However, if you watch this video, it might give you some ideas on how to create a faux stereo sound. ruclips.net/video/wiMYyrdekW4/видео.html
Question? Can I use the 2 outputs of the pedal, amp output going to my main amp, and mixer output going to another amp, so the drums and bass only play threw that amp? Kinda like a wet dry rig!
If I don’t have a mixer, and don’t want to use the Digitech through my amp because of sound quality issues, what do you suggest I do? Or is it fine to go through the amp with the drums? Seems like it wouldn’t be great. Note: I’d be playing through an old Princeton, so the amp would be clean, but I’d be running overdrive and mod Pedals through the amp.
ThePedalGuy So basically if I want to use my overdrive pedals and effects and all that, I should not use the amp? What are my options then? Get like a PA and run it into that?
After the pedal learns the melody and you lay down the ray them track, how do you play the lead guitar/solo in front of it all. Producing a LOUDER sound? I’m blending in to much. 🤷🏻♂️
Hi. Welcome to looping. It takes practice with getting your volume levels correct. I've done a few TRIO vids that demonstrate this in my TRIO playlist.
Pedal Guy thanks for the video, however when I go to press the looper button it does not activate to record. I am following your instructions step by step. I managed to record the base and drums. Then I play them and go to press the looper button and it does not activate to record. Why is this? Very frustrating.
The reason I changed the tempo was because at 12pm the tempo for my song was much to fast. Do we need to record all parts at 12pm and afterwards change the tempo?
I had a similar issue and thought I had a problem with the Trio or set up but I found that if the volume on your guitar is set too low for some reason it didn't loop.
With it, all the LEDs only light up when I connect it to the amplifier and the guitar or also to the multi-effects device. I don't hear a guitar signal from the amplifier when I have everything turned up. Maybe my guitar cable is the wrong one because it says in the instructionsIt has to be an unbalanced TS instrument cable for audio connections but I'm not so sure I want to spend money on it again. I don't want to be disappointed again
I don't really get it where to put which cable in. So I have a Mixer and I want to control the Drums and the Bass with the Mixer. I want to usw my Guitar with Gain, Treble etc using my Amp. But nothings works for me. I don't know where to put which cable in. Maybe you can help me out. Thanks. Greetings from Germany
Ok, it's really simple. Plug your guitar into the Guitar input on the Trio. Use the Amp output to go to your amp and the mixer output to go to your mixer. When you have both outputs in use, the bass and drums will only go to the mixer output.
@@ThePedalGuy Thanks for your Answer. But thats actually how i did it and it does not work. Maybe my Mixer do not work with the Trio? I use an Behringer Xenyx Q 502 USB.
I don’t have a mixer and don’t want to run the rhythm section through a guitar amp. Can you suggest an alternative to a mixer to run the rhythm section? Thanks.
Thanks for your question. You could run it through a small portable PA system speaker if you’d like. Another alternative would be a frfr speaker of some kind Iike the frfr108
The Pedal Guy thanks for a prompt reply. I have a Bose L1, I wonder if that would work? It’s made for acoustic guitar. I wouldn’t want to damage it. Or I have powered bookshelf speakers that take an RCA input. Maybe that?
The Pedal Guy thank you!!!! And thanks for the series of trio plus vids. It’s exactly what I’m looking for. I plan to use mine to record and sequence parts of songs-chorus, verse, bridge, intro, etc. Then play lead and sing over the top. I’ll send the guitar out to one amp, the vocals and trio rhythm section to the nose L1. And then play the lead through a different guitar amp, so there’s no bleed or freq cancellation. I’m excited.
Could anyone please tell me if I can use my trio + with the 4 cable method, using a boss multi effects pedal to a Marshall and mixer. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your question. You should be able to use the FX loop of the TRIO with your Boss and then use the outputs of the TRIO to go out to your Marshall and mixer. Hope that helps.
Hey man thanks for this nice video explanation. I'm asking myself how I should plug in the digetech trio+ while using my Line 6 Helix LT (running via duo XLR (left and right) into my mixer)? Now the signalchain is: Guitar -> Line 6 Helix LT -> Mixer -> Mixer Output (Adam TV5 Monitors). Adding the Trio+ would it be right like this: Guitar -> Trio+ (Guitar In) -> Amp Out to Line 6 Helix LT (Guitar in) AND Mixer Out (from Trio+) -> Mixer (In) ? Or do I have to use the send/return stuff?
Love my Trio Plus but hate the fact that we can only have 3/4 and 4/4 time signatures! I mean how hard is it to include some alterative time sigs into it? Maybe they could do a new firmware and include alt time sigs? Dont think it will happen.
@@ThePedalGuy When was this one released? Like ages ago :D Nothing is happening. What we need is another brand to up the game as this is the only pedal on the market doing this sort of stuff. Then maybe Digitech will look into updating this. Until then its just a Money Train for them and for me its a constant 3/4 and 4/4 time sig :D
Watching this I have no idea how you are hooked up to the effects side ? You tried to be very comprehensive at first then you skipped to having everything hooked up and "teaching" it a song. I am just trying to get a simple hookup video , I understand sending the mixer out will keep the bass and drums separate but I am using the a multi-effects unit with my amp so I want a simple plug in video on that. Thanks though...
Hi. Thanks for the question. As long as you're using the clean channel on your amp, the bass and drums shouldn't distort. If you're using the amp's distortion, it won't work. Hope that helps.
I have no experience with mixers, so if I want to play say a metal tune with alot of overdrive, I then have to get a mixer to send the drum and bass signal to. Then what does the mixer connect to? Can I still hear the clean bass and drums while I'm playing guitar on overdrive?
I just posted this on another question here but yes, if your amp has an effects loop, you could use this chain configuration, it's what I've been using. Trio guitar in > Trio FX send > Any pre-amp pedals like OD > Amp/FX Processor guitar in > Amp/FX Processor FX send > Any other FX pedals you'd typically place in an FX loop > Trio FX return > Trio Amp out > Amp FX return.
1st, thanks much for all these Trio Plus videos-all are helpful. I’ve used it since it came out, with 2nd Digitech pedal) lately more in a multitrack recording workflows. I have the same love/hate relationship most have for it. Digitech seems to have taken it to its end, and abandoned it for SDRUM. It’s versatile enough to demand a real screen and a real (tabletop) user interface. (You have to memorize too many non intuitive button click/hold actions). The worst part is lack of easy channel separation for Bass & drums, and real song management; it’s often too easy to accidentally delete a song. But I still use it occasionally, and like it’s mixer routing option, and am hoping they upgrade it sometime.
Glad I was able to help Joe!
Good point sir. Thanks for sharing. Recently bought one of these. The best creative unit that I have seen in years for guitarists, especially for the price. Really like the sequencer! Spending the time to learn the unit’s functions makes all the difference. Your vids are most helpful. 😎
Der Wolfen Baron thank you for the feedback!
Thanks for the tip. I like the way the separate mix sounds. Will try it like that. By the way nice playing, sounds a bit like The Edge 🙂
Thanks!
These pedal manufacturers produce an amazing product but fail to promote its practical applications in depth. You provide proof that the will and intellect of individuals can overcome the totalitarian nature of the Borg!
LOL. Resistance is futile
Love this thing to tighten up my timing if I haven't picked up guitar in a while. My setup is MIXER OUT to a QSC K12 for bass/drums, sounds great very real with K12 ....and AMP OUT to a Fender DLX. I tried several configurations to to stereo, but alas, no dice. The best workaround for stereo is to use a separate additional looper.
Great Video PG ! ! My Trio should be arriving by next week ! ! Can't wait ! ! !
Have fun!
Presumably you could route the mixer out to an aux input on a small amp like a micro cube and the guitar to the main input so you get clean bass and drums
Yes, absolutely. I did a video on this called TRIO SOS. That will give you the rundown.
Very good video. I forgot that u can use both the mixer and amp output. Thanks a lot. Its even better than using the effectslooop. The sounds are much more clearer by using the mixer out.
Thanks and I’m glad that helped you out.
Very informative vids on this pedal ..great work.thanks
Thanks 🙏
i have commented on a few of your other videos asking how to do just this. so ignore those lol. thank you great video. id like to get me a powered speaker so i dont have to use the whole pa just to jam.
Good call. Any FRFR speaker should do
I set this up in a very unique way that sounds great.
l use the top output on my Trio+ to go out to a pair of 10 foot separated studio monitors, I made a simple Y cable from guitar cable. The mixer out going directly into an amp. It works. The monitors do a FAR better job at showcasing the drums and especially the cymbals are crystal clear. The bass while not super deep is very nice and tight. A guitar amp was never meant to be hi-fi like that. Sounds a bit muddy IMHO and I am running high quality tubes, etc. My monitors have tweeters and are FRFR.
First I lay down my single note or simple 7th chords using downstrokes (Band button.) Then I stop it and arm the LOOP button. When I play a note, it kicks right in. Then while it is playing back, I can solo over it using my pedal board which goes out to two more amps so I have 5 powered speakers in total. I sit in a triangle configuration- the surround sound is crazy great.
Here is the kicker. I also play a Godin xTSA that has 3 outputs (Acoustic, Electric and Synth.) That means, I have two guitar cables plugged in at the same time so I can play everything together while bypassing the pedalboard signal to the Trio+. I had tried the recommended Effects Loop set up but it was buzzing and was not impressive. Others have said the same. Trio+ likes things simple and clean. So from my Godin, use the super clean, piezo pup to feed it a clean signal for learning. When I solo, I raise the volume on the electric pup, lower the piezo (same guitar.)
Cool, I hadn't considered using my Godin - was using my Strat.
@@titichartay7216 You are in for a treat if you use BOTH and blend accordingly. Definitely have two separate rigs/circuits. One is your electric pedal board only. The other is acoustic only. This goes out to your studio monitors and acoustic amp (AB/Y splitter and Y cable for your acoustic amp.) The Trio+ loves monitors for the cymbals. This sounds far better than an amp. On the Trio+ I have a Golden Reverb in front of it using the onboard FX loop.
@@MOAB-UT thank you - gigging best wishes from Australia 😺🦘
@@titichartay7216 No worries mate. Rock on.
Excellent video.
Glad you liked it
I have over 100 videos I have made with mine. Check out some of them and hear what this thing is capable of. And I only have used minimal programming, mostly live on the fly with no pre planning songs.
I’ll check it out
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can you send the drum and base to a separate amp. so have guitar going to one amp and drum and base going to another? thanks great video
Hi thanks for the video info could you use two amps if you dont have a mixer.thanks
It would be nice if you could use both plugs but still route the looper to go to the mixer, so one could loop some clean guitar or whatnot there, but then send some solos directly to an amp that has nice built-in overdrive. Better yet, if each overdub could be routed separately. Just have to bypass the Trio+ with the lead guitar, I guess, or stick with pedals for OD and FX. Maybe they could do it all with a firmware upgrade, though?
Hi Tommy. That's a good idea for sure. Hopefully there will be a firmware update at some point. Who's to say. Be sure to check out our first Trio Tuesday tomorrow!
Gosto muito dos vídeos sobre a Digitech Trio Plus deste canal, prefiro conectar a saída mixer em um amp hi fi.
Thanks
Hey a quick and maybe dumb question. The "amp" and "line" outs are really a great and clever trick. One thing that has always bothered me about loopers is the fact one often plays overtop of the recorded tracks through the same amp. I often will record to a BOSS Looper and then play the tune back through a separate amp. Just sounds better. My question is, what would happen if I ran the "line out" to a separate guitar amp rather than a mixer board? This way I could have the guitar part going to one amp and then the drums and bass to a different amp and then I could play through my own amp! I just got a TRIO+ yesterday...
Xhefri Guitars that would probably work but I would suggest using an A/B box in front of the TRIO so you can route your lead playing off to the other amp. Make sense?
@@ThePedalGuy Yes it does make sense. I was just wondering about impedance, but I do not think that is a concern coming out of the line side. I can EQ it with the amp...kind a. LOL! But to your concept of an A/B Box switch is a great idea! What I have been doing is recording into a looper which is on it's own amp and then unplugging from the looper and going from my stomp boxes and into a different amp. That is what I was planning on doing with the TRIO. Bit of a pain but works. All of this is laziness on my part. I have a nice recording studio and can lay down tracks there and play back to them there, but I like doing stuff on the fly in my amp room (out in a shop) when I just want to practice. I really do not want to go and boot up the whole recording system if I just want to goof around for 30-45 minutes. :-)
Sounds good. The impedance is not going to be affected here as it’s a standard routing really.
Hey Pedal Guy!...Not bad once again but I’d like to ask why you set up your Guitar Fx straight in the unit when a “Send & Return” input/output are supplied and recommended for use of pedalboards???
Even the manual suggests so...as to have better control of the unit’s tracking ability for “the band” function and Looper mix of FX when making the loops!...🤔✨🎶🎸🎛
Absolutely love playing/working with mine!!..& really enjoy the challenge of producing cover tunes & original tunes on it!..🎸🎶🎛👏🏾☺️👍🏾
FlamesAt1000ft thanks for the question. Actually we are using the fx send/return here in this setup. I just wasn’t mentioning it here as that’s covered in another video. The purpose of this video is to show you how to use an amp in your trio plus setup. I absolutely agree that if you intend to use this pedal in a full blown pedalboard you must use the fx send/return for the best possible results.
Hope that helps.
ThePedalGuy Yes,..I see then so I stand corrected!!..👌🏾
Diggin’ your channel so keep’em coming ok!!
My next suggestion of tutorial on this cool-ass ✨🎶🎛pedal is to demonstrate more clearly the benefits of better “Loop Production”...by showing just how to “balance/mix/blend recorded loops on the Trio+ via volume level adjustments when “layering” / Overdubbing voices or instruments.
Doing this really increases the fun/satisfaction factor of the functionality of the unit/pedal.
Done right,..advanced planning of recording process & practice will pay off with nice & cool sounding MicroSDs loaded with killer impressive tunes!!...✨🎶🎸🎛👍🏾
The Digitech Trio+ is remarkably fantastic pedal for ANY Musician and capable of covering ANY genres so I highly recommend it for anyone’s arsenal of musical gear!
A+ Digitech!...✨🎶🎛👏🏾👍🏾🤣💕
Could you explain , how to create songs, intros and the process of building the songs after the first part is complete? Thanks
CarpetPro thanks for the suggestion. We’ve got a laundry list of videos to shoot but due to the amount of feedback we’ve received on this series we would like to come back and revisit when we get a chance.
I have watched several of the Trio sessions from you and noticed that you connected a TRS cable for the input….I looked through the questions so forgive me if I missed the explanation of why.vs a TS cable….was this to attempt to achieve the cleanest input possible? Thanks!
Sorry for the late reply. That was just due to the guitar I was using. TS will work just fine.
Great video
Thanks
Since I'm using a audio interface device and my workflow is centered around my DAW, I use both mixer and amp output to jack in to my audio interface (mine has two instrument inputs), make sure I create two instrument tracks and go ham with death metal riffs. Yes no maybe so?
Correct
@@ThePedalGuy So if I want to use a i.e. distortion pedal I would have it like this: Guitar>Digitech-amp output>Pedal>audio interface; correct?
Have you done a particular video on song parts , your other ones on the trio plus didn't cover that! Thanks again
CarpetPro yes we did a video that covers sequencing parts with the trio plus
Sorry if this has been asked. Could you send a cable from the mix out to return of an effects loop and the amp out to the front of an amp
Currently running a Marshall DSL 40 with a Joe Walsh compressor pedal engaged. And I am thinking of getting this. Can I pair and run this with those said machines? Everything running through the amplifier? Or would I need anything seperate once I get this? What would you recommend bro?
Yea this should work. You’ll probably want to route the bass and drums to the aux input of the amp to keep those as clean as possible.
And I have the trio in stock if you’re in the US
Great demo couldn't hear the bass I take it you can turn it up?
Thanks and yes you can adjust the individual volumes for the looper, bass, and drums.
Thank you very much. I am about to buy one of this and I was exactly asking myself about the output details and you cleared all my questions. :-)
Glad we could help. More Trio fun is on the way on our channel so be sure to subscribe if you haven't already
Scott this was a great tutorial. I am a beginner to audio recording. I am new to Trio + and don’t have a mixer and pedal chains, I’ve been using both amp out and connecting the mixer out to an Alto Tx208 PA for speaker cabinet. Using an XLR with TRS audio cable from mixer out. Hoping you could provide clarity as to the line level. Is this set up considered an unbalanced connection from the mixer out to PA? Is this considered the same as a guitar instrument connection? Or is this considered balanced coming out of the Trio. Appreciate some guidance and Appreciate all you do. Thanks
G'day, this demo just answered my question and it looks like I can use my pedal/effects board plugged into the Control on the Trio Plus and the guitar is plugged into the Effects board (BOSS ME 80) and then the AMP is plugged into the AMP left hand side of the Trio Plus. I don't have a mixer so it would be the AMP on Clean. It does'nt really matter what guitar you use initially until you have played and practiced with the Trio.. Like your demo is the mixer a PA unit?
Grateful for your videos. Can you advise the proper way to connect for my configuration. I have a guitar, Fender Acoustisonic amp, mic, Voicelive Harmony Gxt, Digitech Trio Plus and a Line 6 Pod GO,
Thanks for the question. That's quite a list of gear. Basically, the Voicelive would not be routed to the TRIO. That's simply for guitars. The POD Go would be routed to the TRIO.
Thanks for your response.
So I want to practice with the trio+ with my own effects pedals in a chain with my amp only, no mixers is that possible? Just got mine in and still trying to learn, appreciate your vids!
Sure that will work fine
Thanks for these very informative videos. When you say “mixer” I’m not sure what you mean. Where and what are you using for a mixer?
Thanks for your feedback and question. We used a Behringer mixer for the video.
Great informative video.
Thinking of getting a trio+ for Christmas. I’m currently using a digitech rp360, clean tube setting, into return only of my katana with great results. Should I connect guitar>360>trio>return of katana, or put trio before 360?
Is there any other way of connecting trio still using RP360?
Thanks
Check out this video. It will probably answer your question ruclips.net/video/hypwY2dEEAA/видео.html
@@ThePedalGuy great thanks will do
Hi, your video are Very helpful but I can’t understand clearly how to connect Trio plus directly to an amp avoiding the band/looper to be affected by a distortion or other effects when used. I have no mixer, I just want to go inside the amp directly. The amp has no send/return. Could you explain how connect?
Please, can I use 2 combo amps. I don't have a mixer. Want to use a separate amp for the looper.
This should answer that ruclips.net/video/tMSYqgsqy_I/видео.html
But if you are using a multitrack recorder, you would want separate channels.
For instance the drum/bass output to the mixer/recorder and the guitar output to a separate channel/track.
I wouldn’t want everything on one track.
I’m still new to the TRIO and I don’t know if running the drum/bass output to the mixer or multitrack recorder would have their own separate tracks or channels???
Please give advice? Thanks
Hi James. I covered this in a separate TRIO video. Have a look through the TRIO Playlist and I'm sure you'll see it.
I want to get one of these pedals but are you saying I need to get a separate speaker for the pedal? If I plug into my amp it would be all messed up because my effects are in my amp. I would like to set up a rig like yours one day but that means I would also be buying a more simplified combo amp.
Hi. No you don't need a separate amp, but if you are using an amp with two inputs, I would recommend sending the bass and drums to the clean channel to ensure that it sounds good.
Another great video. Much clearer when both outputs are used. Could I output the bass and drums to a bass amp and the guitar to a guitar amp?
Thanks for the question. Yes you could connect It that way. The bass amp might be a tad muddy for the drums but it should work fine.
The Pedal Guy Thanks for the reply. I have an Akai EIE Pro interface that I use to record onto a MacBook. I wonder if I could output the bass and drums to that, than connect my little studio monitors. They will probably have a bigger range than a bass amp. You’ve got me thinking now!!
@@DTGuitarTech The EIE will work fine in that setup. I used to have one of those myself.
The Pedal Guy great, I will give both a go and see which sounds best. Thanks for the feedback
HELP pedal guy just got my trio + and used it once and now will not arm and tempo light will not come on wont play any thing wont arm . i did try a reset that you had on here thank you
Is it possible to play a pre recorded song ( iTunes) into the trio plus to teach it the song?
No. It doesn’t do that
I'm using Mustang LT25 amp. Amp has preset distortion, overdrives, fuzz, etc. If I want clean bass - drums sound when playing overdrive - distortion on my guitar I have to use Guitar in Trio+, Trio+ out to the amp and Trio+ out to mix and that would do ? Thanks
Thanks for the question. Looks like the amp has an Aux input. That's the one you would use for the bass and drums if you want them to be clean.
What's puzzling me is why you have to plug your pedals in the loop.
You can plug your effects serial then teach without effects, and do what you want, isn't it ?
The trio (not +) have no fx loop and it works...
Great videos. I am trying to use this with an effects loop and it has been a nightmare. With no use of the monitor out is there loop function?
An effects loop on the amp?
@@ThePedalGuy looping.
The looper
I can’t get it to loop after I teach it.
@@christopherconley2404 not sure what that’s about. You might consider resetting the pedal.
Can you put the trio as the last pedal on the chain so you can not get all the pedals messing with the bass drum sound. then you dont have to put through effects loop. Like i do with my looper pedal. It just goes off to the amp as the last one in the chain.
This vid should help ruclips.net/video/hypwY2dEEAA/видео.html
Nice!
Thank you.
Hi! I have a problem with my Marshall DSL. I record the loop with the clean channel. Then, when I play the lead guitar with the ultra gain channel, the clean loop changes into ultra gain. That means, that the loop is depending of the amp channel. Is there a solution?
I’m not sure there’s a clean solution there as it’s all running via the amp loop.
@@ThePedalGuy I think it would be better, if the loop recording runs via mixer output. Isn't it ?
I bought one of these years ago. Never had a good chance to play with it, drowned in a basement flood 1 week after I got it.
Bummer
So I have to have a mixer to use this besides just an acoustic amp, acoustic electric guitar, mic, and the trio+? - If so, can you recommend a good mixer for the job? Thanks, newbie to the trio+ here...
This video might help ruclips.net/video/tMSYqgsqy_I/видео.html
@@ThePedalGuy Thank you!
Is the amp output going to seperate amp or to the mixer?
My amp has an effects loop. To prevent the Trio’s rhythm loop part from getting distorted when using gain on the amp, can I plug the Trio + in the effects loop of the amp instead of the amplifier’s input, bypassing the amp’s preamp stage and straight into the power section?
i,e. Amplifier Send > Trio guitar in > Trio amp out > amplifier’s effects return. I will then send the Trio’s mixer out to a mixer for the drums and bass.
Will that work?
Thanks for the question. I don't see why that wouldn't work.
That may have spotty results if you're distorting with the amp. I've been playing around with mine the past few days using heavier distortion and the learning mode doesn't work. Now, I can't confirm this would work on all amps but the following chain may work. This is what I use with my Firehawk FX acting as my amplifier.
Trio guitar in > Trio FX send > Any pre-amp pedals like OD > Amp/FX Processor guitar in > Amp/FX Processor FX send > Any other FX pedals you'd typically place in an FX loop > Trio FX return > Trio Amp out > Amp FX return.
The advantage that I've found from this chain is that if you have nothing to plug the Trio Mixer Out to, the drums and bass will come out cleanly through your amp and your loops will retain the amplifier/FX processor tone you recorded with if you wanted to change your amp's channel, that should still work.
@Tony Berkopes I don't see why it wouldn't work, as long as there is an FX loop, you should be good to go
I am going straight through an amp without a mixer. For guitar bass and drums for now. Still can't activate the looper.
I have a question...
Where do you put this peddle in the single chain on your peddleboard??
Second question
What do you do if your just running 1 amp , no mixing board ??
Do just run the amp output to amp? Will it distort when you turn on a distortion peddle??
I need the bass and drums to be clean then I want to add distortion for solos..
Example
My ditto looper works great at the end of my single chain. All my effects are before the looper. That way I get a clean single and when I click a distortion peddle it does not distort the first loop I looped..
Does the Trio do this or do you have to have a mixing board for it to work properly??
Sorry for the long text..
Hope you understand my jebberish...
Greetings!👍
Watch my video on using the TRIO with FX. That will answer the question.
I have the trio and an orange amp on my guitar videos
Excellent
How would you use the trio with a Kemper in stereo?
Unfortunately it doesn't work in stereo. However, if you watch this video, it might give you some ideas on how to create a faux stereo sound. ruclips.net/video/wiMYyrdekW4/видео.html
Question? Can I use the 2 outputs of the pedal, amp output going to my main amp, and mixer output going to another amp, so the drums and bass only play threw that amp? Kinda like a wet dry rig!
darksidebilly thanks for the question. Don’t see why that wouldn’t work.
@@ThePedalGuy thanks man ill try it out
It worked 😊
If I don’t have a mixer, and don’t want to use the Digitech through my amp because of sound quality issues, what do you suggest I do? Or is it fine to go through the amp with the drums? Seems like it wouldn’t be great.
Note: I’d be playing through an old Princeton, so the amp would be clean, but I’d be running overdrive and mod Pedals through the amp.
JB P thanks for the questions. In this scenario as long as the amp is running a clean signal it should sound ok. Not great, but ok.
ThePedalGuy So basically if I want to use my overdrive pedals and effects and all that, I should not use the amp? What are my options then? Get like a PA and run it into that?
@@BP-or2iu I if you use the effects loop into the Trio then to the clean amp you will be fine
After the pedal learns the melody and you lay down the ray them track, how do you play the lead guitar/solo in front of it all. Producing a LOUDER sound? I’m blending in to much. 🤷🏻♂️
Hi. Welcome to looping. It takes practice with getting your volume levels correct. I've done a few TRIO vids that demonstrate this in my TRIO playlist.
Can I run the Trio+ drirectly from guitar to amp? I dont have a mixer availabe..
Short answer, yes
@@ThePedalGuy is there anyway I can use it effectively without ?
I’ve definitely answered that question in my TRIO vids. Watch the TRIO sos vid. That might help
@@ThePedalGuy thank you!!
Pedal Guy thanks for the video, however when I go to press the looper button it does not activate to record. I am following your instructions
step by step. I managed to record the base and drums. Then I play them and go to press the looper button and it does not activate to record.
Why is this? Very frustrating.
Is the Tempo set at 12 o’clock?
@@ThePedalGuy Does the tempo need to be set at 12pm for the looper to activate?
The reason I changed the tempo was because at 12pm the tempo for my song was much to fast. Do we need to record all parts at 12pm and afterwards change the tempo?
I believe so. I will double check in the morning.
I had a similar issue and thought I had a problem with the Trio or set up but I found that if the volume on your guitar is set too low for some reason it didn't loop.
Could you run the mix out to a amp fx loop?
Sure you could do that.
How would you go about producing or creating melodic fast cool lead break solos on this Digitech TRIO pedal FX ?? 😕🥺🤦🏻♂️
Watch my series on the trio. There’s sure to be something in there that will help
Good presentation, but can you get real powerful music out of it because in all videos they play children's melodies?
With it, all the LEDs only light up when I connect it to the amplifier and the guitar or also to the multi-effects device. I don't hear a guitar signal from the amplifier when I have everything turned up. Maybe my guitar cable is the wrong one because it says in the instructionsIt has to be an unbalanced TS instrument cable for audio connections but I'm not so sure I want to spend money on it again. I don't want to be disappointed again
I don't really get it where to put which cable in.
So I have a Mixer and I want to control the Drums and the Bass with the Mixer.
I want to usw my Guitar with Gain, Treble etc using my Amp. But nothings works for me.
I don't know where to put which cable in.
Maybe you can help me out.
Thanks.
Greetings from Germany
Ok, it's really simple. Plug your guitar into the Guitar input on the Trio. Use the Amp output to go to your amp and the mixer output to go to your mixer. When you have both outputs in use, the bass and drums will only go to the mixer output.
@@ThePedalGuy Thanks for your Answer.
But thats actually how i did it and it does not work. Maybe my Mixer do not work with the Trio?
I use an Behringer Xenyx Q 502 USB.
Nachtschatten ! Hmm....well ya got me stumped. That’s how it’s setup on our vid so I’m not sure how to advise
I don’t have a mixer and don’t want to run the rhythm section through a guitar amp. Can you suggest an alternative to a mixer to run the rhythm section? Thanks.
Thanks for your question. You could run it through a small portable PA system speaker if you’d like.
Another alternative would be a frfr speaker of some kind Iike the frfr108
The Pedal Guy thanks for a prompt reply. I have a Bose L1, I wonder if that would work? It’s made for acoustic guitar. I wouldn’t want to damage it. Or I have powered bookshelf speakers that take an RCA input. Maybe that?
Phoenix Vamvakias the L1 should work fine. Just handle with care.
Phoenix Vamvakias the L1 would work. Just handle with care.
The Pedal Guy thank you!!!!
And thanks for the series of trio plus vids. It’s exactly what I’m looking for. I plan to use mine to record and sequence parts of songs-chorus, verse, bridge, intro, etc. Then play lead and sing over the top. I’ll send the guitar out to one amp, the vocals and trio rhythm section to the nose L1. And then play the lead through a different guitar amp, so there’s no bleed or freq cancellation.
I’m excited.
How do you amplify TRIO, I think that on a guitar amp it's not very good.
The bass and drums would ideally go to a PA system or to a aux in on your amp which would be clean.
@@ThePedalGuy Can I run the mixer output straight to a digital drum amp/speaker like a KAT KA1 ?
Thank you
Never mind. Found in another of your great vids.
For experts only!!
Not really. It's a pretty easy pedal to navigate once you get it under your thumbs
Could anyone please tell me if I can use my trio + with the 4 cable method, using a boss multi effects pedal to a Marshall and mixer. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your question. You should be able to use the FX loop of the TRIO with your Boss and then use the outputs of the TRIO to go out to your Marshall and mixer. Hope that helps.
So how do you just hook it up to a amp without owning a mixer
This will help ruclips.net/video/tMSYqgsqy_I/видео.html
Thanks so much 🙏
Hey man thanks for this nice video explanation. I'm asking myself how I should plug in the digetech trio+ while using my Line 6 Helix LT (running via duo XLR (left and right) into my mixer)? Now the signalchain is: Guitar -> Line 6 Helix LT -> Mixer -> Mixer Output (Adam TV5 Monitors). Adding the Trio+ would it be right like this: Guitar -> Trio+ (Guitar In) -> Amp Out to Line 6 Helix LT (Guitar in) AND Mixer Out (from Trio+) -> Mixer (In) ? Or do I have to use the send/return stuff?
I'd have to give that some thought as I haven't used a Helix.
Can we get the drum and bass separate using a Y cable, to control them separately in mixer
Thanks for the question. Not that I know of.
Love my Trio Plus but hate the fact that we can only have 3/4 and 4/4 time signatures! I mean how hard is it to include some alterative time sigs into it? Maybe they could do a new firmware and include alt time sigs? Dont think it will happen.
Che Guebuddha who knows. It’s a pretty popular pedal so never say never
@@ThePedalGuy When was this one released? Like ages ago :D Nothing is happening. What we need is another brand to up the game as this is the only pedal on the market doing this sort of stuff. Then maybe Digitech will look into updating this. Until then its just a Money Train for them and for me its a constant 3/4 and 4/4 time sig :D
Watching this I have no idea how you are hooked up to the effects side ? You tried to be very comprehensive at first then you skipped to having everything hooked up and "teaching" it a song. I am just trying to get a simple hookup video , I understand sending the mixer out will keep the bass and drums separate but I am using the a multi-effects unit with my amp so I want a simple plug in video on that. Thanks though...
Thanks for the feedback. There’s a video that covers fx extensively on this playlist. Check there.
If I dont have a mixer is there anyway to avoid the bass and drums being distorted when I have distortion on my amp?
Hi. Thanks for the question. As long as you're using the clean channel on your amp, the bass and drums shouldn't distort. If you're using the amp's distortion, it won't work. Hope that helps.
I have no experience with mixers, so if I want to play say a metal tune with alot of overdrive, I then have to get a mixer to send the drum and bass signal to. Then what does the mixer connect to? Can I still hear the clean bass and drums while I'm playing guitar on overdrive?
I just posted this on another question here but yes, if your amp has an effects loop, you could use this chain configuration, it's what I've been using.
Trio guitar in > Trio FX send > Any pre-amp pedals like OD > Amp/FX Processor guitar in > Amp/FX Processor FX send > Any other FX pedals you'd typically place in an FX loop > Trio FX return > Trio Amp out > Amp FX return.
@@AudioMocha nice! Thanks for chiming in.
Can't the mixer out just go to the aux in of the amp
That’s also another possible connection.
And another thing is that You cannot dial up other musical instruments with this pedal? If you know what I mean! 😕🥺🤦🏻♂️
Well keep in mind that this pedal is several years old at this point. For its day it was and still is a good songwriting tool
The title of this post says nothing about a mixing board. WTF
🙄 Let's be kind here. No need to "WT" anything.
I’m sorry but the drums just sound extremely super fake and I can’t hear the bass at all. But then again it’s just for practicing.