Whoa whoa wait, the reason I can't find a full version of Devious, a fan film that started production years ago, is because its not done yet? That does explain a lot!
I do find it odd how (seemingly) revered devious and a bunch of the other wildness year fan films are whilst current fan films are only ever mentioned within the confines of the fan films comment sections. I guess the only difference is that the wildness years folks were able to rope in actual cast members from doctor who proper
Here's one, in the mid 80's, three issues of the Korean comic magazine "Treasure Island" featured Doctor Who stories, starring the Fourth Doctor and his companion Joy. Of course these were completely unlicensed so we'll never see any kind of official release, unless you fancy tracking down decades old Korean magazines, but you can find some of the pages online (still in Korean), and these things are wild, the TARDIS has fins and flies like a rocket, and does battle with a Nazi tank and a British pirate ship... in space!
"South Korea didn't really go for Doctor Who much in the 20th century, but this little titbit has recently emerged. It turns out that Korean readers had their own, short-lived, probably unlicensed version of Doctor Who as a comicbook release. Treasure Island was a Korean manwha (cartoon format) publication which released hefty 400-page volumes from 1982 to 1992, and included various reprints and licensed materials as well as original creations. Quite how they managed to create their own version of Doctor Who is uncertain, and there doesn't seem to be any evidence that they acquired a licence to do so, although broadwcast suggests they might have cribbed some material from Marvel reprints and worked from that. Certainly, there's a very clear influence of Tom Baker's fourth Doctor on the manwha Doctor, who wears a clear variant on his costume. These were released in early 1984, when the fifth Doctor's time was coming to a close and the sixth was making his debut, but Tom Baker's image would still have been the most commonly seen around the world. Indeed, his was still the face most people thought of when imagining the Doctor until Tennant and Smith assured the domination of the modern series in younger viewers' minds. It's an idiosyncratic take on Doctor Who, with the Doctor (from the planet Black) and his companion Joy travelling the universe in a TARDIS that appears to be a rocketship. The only story for which there's any detail so far is "Fugitives," which saw the Doctor fight Nazis and pirates for the entertainment of avian aliens. The article's writer says that's the sort of thing only a manwha book would include, but I can easily imagine it turning up in an early Doctor Who Weekly or Monthly comic strip. If your Korean's up to scratch, you can read some of the adventure here: blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=mice3nyc&logNo=90029163305&parentCategoryNo=4&viewDate=¤tPage=1&listtype=0"
I have (I believe) all of 'Totally Doctor Who' and 'Doctor Who: Confidential' episodes recorded on DVD, from when they aired. I had no idea they were considered missing
you can find a lot of them available on RUclips, they occasionally upload random episodes out of order. not sure if they're the original broadcast length though
If I'm reading your comment right, you have digital copies of Totally Doctor Who and Doctor Who Confidential, that were recorded onto DVD when they were originally broadcast. If I were you, I would upload those somewhere. I know a lot of fans would be more than happy to see them.
Minor gripe, but the Doctor pictured in the "Seven Keys to Doomsday" entry is Trevor Martin, who played him in UK performances. Michael Sagar played him in the New Zealand version. Martin's Doctor had the long hair and the fancy outfit, Sagar's Doctor had a moustache and a checkered-suit.
I’ve got one! Comics writer John Ostrander wrote a (licensed) Doctor Who stage production in the 80s called The Inheritors of Time. (I had to wrack my brains for that, though, this thing was exhaustive lol.)
nice vid! i've got one too. let me talk you about the lost spanish dub. I am a whovian from Mexico, and a while ago I learnt that the First and Fourth Doctor's era made it to hispanic countries in the late 70's. these episodes were dubbed (except some of the Fourth's which according to some accounts are just badly recorded voiceover) and broadcast in countries like Mexico, Chile and Costa Rica. but sadly, there's no audiovisual evidence of them, except an episode from the Web Planet, a transcript from the Android Invasion and a two second clip of the show's intro, which by the way is presented as "Doctor Misterio". the search for this material has been particularly infuriating for me due to the scarcity of reliable information. even the voice actor of the fourth Doctor that appears credited in the dubbing wiki was asked about it and does not remember doing such work, some colleagues asked friends and family and little of them have very vague memories from it airing, but no one has it on audio or video record. so I am currently desperate trying to find any trace of it lol. but every time to time spanish lost media resurface on the web and it gives me a little hope, even if we're not a big community. if anyone reading this has anything related to the lost dub, please let me know. on another hand, that one final entry on Sarah Jane's feelings towards the Doctor is rather... interesting. specially considering that one scene in The Giggle where the Doctor remarked how much he LOVED her, talking about her with the same level of affection he had for Rose. btw in latin spanish it was translated with the verb "amar" which is often used for romantic love, rather than "querer", which is more platonic. so yeah, that happened.
a few years ago now I was struck with the horrifying realisation that all of the flash games from the old official website where probably never archived by anybody, and that's bummed me out since EDIT: found them a while ago, can’t remember where but they weren’t hard to find
Great video! I hope you do a episode on just the missing episodes. maybe rank what missing episodes that you want to be recoverd the most and what episode that has the highest chance of being found.
You know I'm a big Doctor Who fanatic, and I wanted to do a big video to talk about the missing episodes! But then Josh Snares released his videos, fantastic content! But since they go into so much detail and perfectly cover the history of the whole ordeal, I don't think I could do it any justice now. I'll want to do some more Doctor Who contents down the road, but right now I couldn't see myself talk at great length about the missing episodes, maybe a top 10
After your coverage of Julian Vince I was curious to check him out so i went to his website and....after I never felt so heartbroken in my whole life for what happened too julian after his mum died and his life going on a downward spiral after that...I legit wanted to cry after reading more and more of what happened and especially the human pincushion sketch 😢 💔
Also, if I had to mention one missing piece of media, it's the ending of series 1 they showed to the press. You see, the BBC wanted to hide the fact that Eccleston was going to regenerate and filmed a version in which the series ended with Rose dying and this was reportedly shown to the press, but never broadcast, because it was mainly a fake ending to hide the fact that Eccleston wouldn't be returning and to get a genuine surprise upon broadcast.
I feel like it could be released as a bonus feature but like Spongebob's alternate wishes from Shanghied, it may be a while before it does, or even surfaces for that matter.
Anyone ever hear of "A Wild Endevour?" It was gonna be a fanmade prequel to the classic series that was supposed to come out around 2014-2015 (ish) about how The Doctor and The Master became enemies, and not reveal who was who til the end, when they finally get their names.
We need an updated version in the next couple years on this topic to see what has surfaced & what unfortunately has disappeared since this original video.
I've got one which is rather interesting and quite obscure.. I fondly remember watching Nickelodeon UK, broadcasting their own version of the Kids Choice Awards between 2007 - 08. Doctor Who was one of the four nominees for the best TV show category in both years. Doctor Who didn't win and the winning category went to Drake & Josh on both occasions. In 2008 there was a new category dedicating to Favourite TV baddie, & the Daleks were one of the nominees. I remember two other nominees, Simon Cowell & Plankton. Unfortunately I don't remember the fourth nominee. Simon Cowell wins the category and they re-use footage of Simon accepting the award for the X Factor one year prior as he didn't attend both events in person. To make up for his second absence, within a few seconds in for accepting the TV baddie award in the re-used footage, he gets exterminated by a Dalek, showing his 'supposed' skeleton. The Dalek would then appear at the stage left expressing it's anger & disappointment in loosing the category. The Dalek would then give punishment to the front audience by activating 'Dalek Slime', the typical Nickelodeon green slime. Afterwards the Dalek would descend back down behind the logo and the camera would then go back to the host Danni Minogue. The Dalek clip was on RUclips I believe for at least a number of years until it was taken down. I tried to look for the footage, but it isn't anywhere to be found except a image of the Dalek on stage by the choice awards logo on Google images. Other than that I consider this to be lost media.
Do you have any more information on the Elizabeth Sladen thing from the end? I know you said this was relayed to you by someone (and, of course, it could be not true), but do you know if it would have been an entirely new episode or a scene that would have been in one of the episodes from that series? I'm not sure if I entirely believe it (mainly because series 9 was 4 years after she died), but it's super interesting nonetheless. Awesome video though! Lots of stuff I had never even heard of in here :)
Cheers for watching I've shared everything my mate relate to me in the video, and if you watch that segment again you should find the answer to your question, if you still don't believe the information then that's fair enough, I did try digging for any other clarification or mirrored articles but I couldn't come up with anything, so I'm afraid I haven't got anything else backing my claim.
My father and later I myself both worked on the original Whos. I did some of the very first recolourisations, I know my stuff - I didn't know some of this ! Well done !
Fantastic video and very interesting stuff. I knew a lot of this but not all. I do have some other knowledge on lost media with "Doctor Who" and things to do with it. Mostly speculation and rumors for one of them but it is interesting; 1. There was a canceled 2nd Doctor story called "Prison in Space" by Dick Sharples. It was made eventually by Big Finish and released in their "Doctor Who; The Lost Stories; The Second Doctor" boxset. I've heard from speculation that pre-production was done on the story, with the guard costumes from "The War Games" being ones that were made originally for "Prison in Space". 2. "Midnight" from series 4 of the revived era of the show was originally going to be a cross-over between the show and "Most Haunted", but never happened. Again, Big Finish came to the rescue and the 10th Doctor audio; "No Place" is a re-working of this un-made series 4 story. 3. The cover artwork for the Virgin New Adventure "Sleepy" apparently references an un-made entry in the range involving a virus. (and for the big one); 4. In the early 2000s when there was still no "Doctor Who" on TV ran both Big Finish audios and various novels by BBC books, with the latter being released as the Eighth Doctor Adventures and the Past Doctor Adventures line of books - commonly shortened to EDAs and PDAs -. Whenever Russel T Davis revived the show some books from these ranges were still published for a short while, with them ultimately coming to an end in 2006. The last BBC novel to feature the Eighth Doctor was called "Fear Itself", but is considered a PDA and not an EDA because Christopher Ecclestone had made his debut by this point. The final book to be published from either range in 2006 was called "Atom Bomb Blues" and featured the seventh Doctor, however this was originally not meant to be. I don't know what the ideas were but the BBC did have some to continue the range after this book but ultimately canceled the PDAs in favor for the new range of novels based on the revived series.
Cosgrove hall after doing the animation for the invasion episode 1 and 4 pitched a full animation for the power of the daleks, they created a test reel of a few scenes from the story and there are a few pictures of this in the dalek handbook
Coming to think of it aswell there is also a reel of test footage from the 2016 animation of the power of the daleks that was uploaded to RUclips and removed shortly after, I have a video of that but I wish I could find the cosgrove hall version online too
Don’t the Howard Da Silva tapes of the Fourth Doctor trailers of 1978 in the US count as lost media? Okay the fact is that PBS possibly scrapped the visual tapes with the only gradual existence being audio records, and scenes reconstructed with each of the episodes.
@@ScribblestoScreen When I first saw that scene, I fell from my bed and onto the floor... CRYING! I know The Doctor was okay at the next part, but Geez. I still hate Chancellor Goth, I had to portray him as a psychopathic villain in my fanfics ( Post - The Deadly Assassin, I have a character who can bring people back to life ).
According to Roberta Tovey, who played Susan in the Dr. Who and the Daleks movie, The Keys of Marinus was also considered as a third Who movie, as well as The Chase. She said this on the DVD commentary. There are also a whole, ongoing, series of Cushing Dr. novels, vased on the fictional premise that this became a long running movie franchise. They're available from Obverse Books.
While it may have been difficult to do, I think an episode covering the passing of Sarah Jane could've worked pretty well. Maybe somehow have it tie in to the looming threat of Clara's demise in series 9. If the footage still exists, perhaps it can be reworked into the upcoming 60th Anniversary special, considering Tennant is coming back
I'm hoping that Time Fracture releases it show on DVD for those who were unable to attend and maybe the John Barrowman scene could be a bonus feature. Also, Devious is currently on it's third episode, which features a small cameo from Second Doctor impressionist Chris Walken-Thomson. I guess it's an advantage of taking so long to edit, as Chris wasn't around when the project first started.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned the 2012 fan film remake of 'Power of the Daleks'. Adapted by Nick Scovell, it was uploaded to RUclips before being taken down when the BBC issued a copyright claim. Which prompted rumours that the original tapes had been recovered.
I also have one. Recently a DW Fan Film Legend, Chris Hoyle just disappeared including every trace of his fan films that I've seen. Hopefully you can help me find it.
Another good one is the 1906 French novel Doctor Omega, which has many similarities with the First Doctor version of the show, which was of course still over half a century away from its first appearance. It's unlikely it influenced it in any way though, as the book wasn't translated into English untill the 2000's, and it's been suggrested that the translater may have embellished the story somewhat, so as to exaggerate the similarities. Still, if you wish to produce your own Doctor Who story, as a novel, film, audio drama, whatever, but know your idea would never be licensed by the BBC, you're free to use Doctor Omega and his companions instead, as they're long out of copyright.
Sorry for nit-picking but I'm very sure you are confused somewhat, Land of the Giants was a show by Irwin Allan and the Classic DW story was Planet of The Giants, which was originally going to be set in Coal Hill School, which was in An Unearthly Child but is now only available to those who have the physical media, like the Video and the DVD's that upto just recently contains the two versions of the pilot episode and was written as a four part story and then adapted to a three parter instead.
I'm a fan since the late 70s and the amount of episodes found in my lifetime is amazing. I recall when the number was way over 100 missing. Would love to see them all but we should be thankful that Tomb of the Cybermen, The Ice Warriors, The Web of Fear, The Enemy of the World, Evil of the Daleks pat.2, half of Underwater Menace, half of The Crusade, Galaxy 4 pt. 3, Invasion (of the Dinosaurs) pat. 1 all were found in the last 40 years.
I'm suprised that you didn't mention the whole thing with David Burton as the Doctor, although it's unknown what actually is true about that whole situation.
I was gonna put this up but it’s more obscure than lost. There were 2 fan made Doctor Who cartoons made in the 80’s by Terminus Tardis, Dial D for Dalek and The Hues of Doom. Dial D for Dalek is on RUclips while The Hues of Doom is on dailymotion
i'm surprised you haven't mentioned aboult how most of the early jon pertwee episodes were wiped and were later restored in the 90s and today, using off air NTSC videotapes from america and the 16mm B/W telerecordings for overseas sales(as well as reverse standards conversion, chroma dot colour recovery and manual colourisation). edit: aboult the tardis prop used in "get of of my cloud", the out of the unknown production team borrowed it after studio recording of episode 5 of the mind robber. the tardis prop didin't have a telephone cabinet at the time, and it was installed for "get off of my cloud". you can spot this telephone cabinet in the final scene of part 8 of "the invasion", which was when the tardis prop was returned to the doctor who production team after "get off of my cloud" was recorded.
That's sad, that Elizabeth Slaton, ie Dr Who companion with Tom Baker for many years, has passed away before him. Baker has to be in his 90s now. RIP Sarah Jane.😟😢
Yet another video that doesn't know the difference between lost/missing media and unoroduced media. If it's unproduced, then it doesn't exist and thus isn't lost. Very poor form to conflate the two.
I still am not sure why they do not do a go back,, either the Dr telling the stories of the past to the companions. or a just a time shift back. And remaking the complete old stories were episodes are missing, or were a whole story is lost. Since very few people would have seen these then its not really a remake.
Oh dear. I legit didn't wanna do this cos the iceberg video trend is the most fucking boring thing ever, but here we are... and before anyone says otherwise, I'm gonna correct the FACTS, not the FEELS. Mainly pointing out incorrect information. Level 1: - the John Barrowman drama is the dumbest shit ever, and I'd be surprised if it doesn't turn up at somepoint. - Season 23 was the one that got put on hiatus, not season 26. - the first point of the missing episodes was basically what everyone and their gran knows (which I can excuse for this being level 1). However, its such a widely known thing that its not even worth putting on the list! But hey, no fan theories yet, so there's that. Also way to go for not explaining the original 1963-1967 titles only exist in HD now cos a film collector had the original titles film insert. GG Level 2: - Weird. I thought it was confirmed they'd adapt the chase with Mechons and such. - NO FAN THEORIES! For god's sake, I just praised you for not falling into that cliche! No shit you're rambling...! - The entire production of The Destroyers is a mystery. You want actual research done on this? Check out Terry Nation Army, a multi-part series by the guys from Dalek 6388. - Okay, this is something we gotta talk about. Timeline Whiplash. (perhaps you could say a Timelash...? il see myself out) For crying out loud, organize these things a little better. I'm getting head trauma being pulled back and forth through the years with mediocre research. Now, the scene from Terror of the Zygons wasn't cut for grading issues. It was actually cut because the time of day changed during filming the various scenes involving the invisible TARDIS. That's not really grading, that's just lighting issues. Did you even watch the episode with Info Text on? NO, IT WAS PARTIALLY COLOURISED! Most of the original film insert was already in colour! - interesting point on Robot of Sherwood. Except that technically it was officially released (ONLY TECHNICALLY), and at the time was very easy to access. But this doesn't make it a lost media thing because it still fucking exists, albiet in black and white only. - from what I gathered on my own research and listening to DVD stuff, the alternate ending to Journey's End was part of a scene that technically was never finished, as rewrites were done. As well as the thing you mentioned; TONE. - I like how you just took the Season 27 concepts from the Survival DVD and stuck em here. Classy. This scene sums the issue up: ruclips.net/video/g2zPfRKQkKg/видео.html Also, considering these were recycled and adapted post-cancellation, these aren't really lost media either... - Wait, what? You don't just skim over something like Totally Doctor Who and Doctor Who Confidential being officially unreleased in their original form! Oh, and the level's over. I fear it only gets worse from here... Lost Media Iceberg? More like the Poor Research Iceberg, AHAHAHA! Level 3: - Actually, those reboot ideas stemmed from the talks about a Doctor Who movie... we all know how that went. And the movie was a backdoor pilot, so pretty much yeah. It wasn't that good though. BREAK: I'm shocked I'm the only guy who disliked this... Level 5 - Not even a transition from the Doctor Who spinoffs to Devious! What the fuck is this editing?!? Like seriously! - Wait, that was level 5? JUST TWO FUCKING ENTRIES? Level 6 - I like how it's not even mentioned that Terry Molloy was there as Davros. - Oh wow, again, you can find better information on the Out Of The Unknown daleks cameo on Dalek 6388's Terry Nation Army. Nice copying of information. - Planet of Giants SHOOTING script, not film script...! Okay, I give up. Sorry, I just can't take much more of this! Hope SOME of this was useful to you. Take care and good day.
I have some 'It's The Few Doctor' a fan made parody made for the panoptocin and had a limited vhs release featuring Doctors 1-8 (played by other actors of course) Fan edit version of 'Light at the End' the 50th anniversary audio drama featuring the Ninth, Tenth and Eleventh Doctors Full Blue Peter Segment of the Ninth Doctor in character Full disney club segment featuring the Seventh Doctor Original 1963 Radio (also possible TV) trailer for An Unearthly Child Ninth, Eleventh and Thirteenth Doctor Deleted Scenes for their series, only a small few have been releases online for the Eleventh Doctor (some of which only being made available as descriptions in the Doctor Who Companion Magazine: The Eleventh Doctor range) A deleted monster from the Thirteeenth Doctor Story with the talking frog Twice Upon A Time Deleted Scenes, one which has been released online and two or three which were included in the original trailer and the Target novelisation (Also a possible but maybe not true rumoured Extended Edition) Stephen Moffat's original script for blink which was made available during the lockdown watchalongs (which is now gone as the website was taken down) Series 8 workprints TV Movie full original opening and original workprint version as well as some possible deleted scenes No DVD releases of the radioplay and audio drama webcasts, Dimensions in Time and Curse of Fatal Death Possible interview from the 80's or 90's Crash of the Elysium The Doctor Who Experience, shows and performances one or two featuring Eleven and two featuring Twelve Original Time Fracture as the one that's on now is a new version and I don't just mean due to John Barrowman, with possibly neither being recorded Ian Levine's projects, and his Dalek's Masterplan animation Whoflix's fan edit of Twice Upon A Time A Twelfth Doctor written short story released online alongside series 9 on the BBC's webpage for the series
Whoa whoa wait, the reason I can't find a full version of Devious, a fan film that started production years ago, is because its not done yet? That does explain a lot!
You can currently see the first two parts on RUclips
I do find it odd how (seemingly) revered devious and a bunch of the other wildness year fan films are whilst current fan films are only ever mentioned within the confines of the fan films comment sections. I guess the only difference is that the wildness years folks were able to rope in actual cast members from doctor who proper
Here's one, in the mid 80's, three issues of the Korean comic magazine "Treasure Island" featured Doctor Who stories, starring the Fourth Doctor and his companion Joy. Of course these were completely unlicensed so we'll never see any kind of official release, unless you fancy tracking down decades old Korean magazines, but you can find some of the pages online (still in Korean), and these things are wild, the TARDIS has fins and flies like a rocket, and does battle with a Nazi tank and a British pirate ship... in space!
I'll have to go down that rabbit hole sometime 🤣
"South Korea didn't really go for Doctor Who much in the 20th century, but this little titbit has recently emerged. It turns out that Korean readers had their own, short-lived, probably unlicensed version of Doctor Who as a comicbook release. Treasure Island was a Korean manwha (cartoon format) publication which released hefty 400-page volumes from 1982 to 1992, and included various reprints and licensed materials as well as original creations. Quite how they managed to create their own version of Doctor Who is uncertain, and there doesn't seem to be any evidence that they acquired a licence to do so, although broadwcast suggests they might have cribbed some material from Marvel reprints and worked from that.
Certainly, there's a very clear influence of Tom Baker's fourth Doctor on the manwha Doctor, who wears a clear variant on his costume. These were released in early 1984, when the fifth Doctor's time was coming to a close and the sixth was making his debut, but Tom Baker's image would still have been the most commonly seen around the world. Indeed, his was still the face most people thought of when imagining the Doctor until Tennant and Smith assured the domination of the modern series in younger viewers' minds.
It's an idiosyncratic take on Doctor Who, with the Doctor (from the planet Black) and his companion Joy travelling the universe in a TARDIS that appears to be a rocketship. The only story for which there's any detail so far is "Fugitives," which saw the Doctor fight Nazis and pirates for the entertainment of avian aliens. The article's writer says that's the sort of thing only a manwha book would include, but I can easily imagine it turning up in an early Doctor Who Weekly or Monthly comic strip. If your Korean's up to scratch, you can read some of the adventure here: blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=mice3nyc&logNo=90029163305&parentCategoryNo=4&viewDate=¤tPage=1&listtype=0"
I have (I believe) all of 'Totally Doctor Who' and 'Doctor Who: Confidential' episodes recorded on DVD, from when they aired. I had no idea they were considered missing
Yeah you're right they have been made available, but they've just been edited and cut down from how they were originally broadcast
If you find out they're originals, for the sake of future preservation, I implore you upload them.
you can find a lot of them available on RUclips, they occasionally upload random episodes out of order. not sure if they're the original broadcast length though
If I'm reading your comment right, you have digital copies of Totally Doctor Who and Doctor Who Confidential, that were recorded onto DVD when they were originally broadcast.
If I were you, I would upload those somewhere. I know a lot of fans would be more than happy to see them.
please upload them to the internet archive
Minor gripe, but the Doctor pictured in the "Seven Keys to Doomsday" entry is Trevor Martin, who played him in UK performances. Michael Sagar played him in the New Zealand version. Martin's Doctor had the long hair and the fancy outfit, Sagar's Doctor had a moustache and a checkered-suit.
Trevor Martin also had a part as a Time Lord in The War Games
I’ve got one!
Comics writer John Ostrander wrote a (licensed) Doctor Who stage production in the 80s called The Inheritors of Time.
(I had to wrack my brains for that, though, this thing was exhaustive lol.)
Ah yes another Doctor Who obscurity fact my life is complete LOL cheers 😁
Glad you were able to make it the end of the video LOL
@@ScribblestoScreen I loved every minute!
John Ostrander, as in the DC writer
nice vid! i've got one too. let me talk you about the lost spanish dub.
I am a whovian from Mexico, and a while ago I learnt that the First and Fourth Doctor's era made it to hispanic countries in the late 70's. these episodes were dubbed (except some of the Fourth's which according to some accounts are just badly recorded voiceover) and broadcast in countries like Mexico, Chile and Costa Rica. but sadly, there's no audiovisual evidence of them, except an episode from the Web Planet, a transcript from the Android Invasion and a two second clip of the show's intro, which by the way is presented as "Doctor Misterio".
the search for this material has been particularly infuriating for me due to the scarcity of reliable information. even the voice actor of the fourth Doctor that appears credited in the dubbing wiki was asked about it and does not remember doing such work, some colleagues asked friends and family and little of them have very vague memories from it airing, but no one has it on audio or video record.
so I am currently desperate trying to find any trace of it lol. but every time to time spanish lost media resurface on the web and it gives me a little hope, even if we're not a big community. if anyone reading this has anything related to the lost dub, please let me know.
on another hand, that one final entry on Sarah Jane's feelings towards the Doctor is rather... interesting. specially considering that one scene in The Giggle where the Doctor remarked how much he LOVED her, talking about her with the same level of affection he had for Rose. btw in latin spanish it was translated with the verb "amar" which is often used for romantic love, rather than "querer", which is more platonic. so yeah, that happened.
Considering how Nelvana is treating the Thomas the Tank Engine reboot, I’m glad their Doctor Who series never got off the ground.
That's them now back in the 80's and 90s they were completely different
a few years ago now I was struck with the horrifying realisation that all of the flash games from the old official website where probably never archived by anybody, and that's bummed me out since
EDIT: found them a while ago, can’t remember where but they weren’t hard to find
The sarah jane one where you could use 11s sonic screwdriver and you had to move the characters across was the best dr who flash game imo
@@2119D hello? Last Dalek? K9 Deja Who?
@@aliceangel03 K9 Deja sticks in my mind like some unforgotten period in your life
@@BarryLetts379 I knoww what a game
@@aliceangel03 yeah, well we all went through puberty lol!
I remember seeing the Chuckle Brothers Doctor What stage play. It was very entertaining
You're one lucky guy 😅
Great video! I hope you do a episode on just the missing episodes. maybe rank what missing episodes that you want to be recoverd the most and what episode that has the highest chance of being found.
You know I'm a big Doctor Who fanatic, and I wanted to do a big video to talk about the missing episodes!
But then Josh Snares released his videos, fantastic content! But since they go into so much detail and perfectly cover the history of the whole ordeal, I don't think I could do it any justice now.
I'll want to do some more Doctor Who contents down the road, but right now I couldn't see myself talk at great length about the missing episodes, maybe a top 10
After your coverage of Julian Vince I was curious to check him out so i went to his website and....after I never felt so heartbroken in my whole life for what happened too julian after his mum died and his life going on a downward spiral after that...I legit wanted to cry after reading more and more of what happened and especially the human pincushion sketch 😢 💔
Also, if I had to mention one missing piece of media, it's the ending of series 1 they showed to the press. You see, the BBC wanted to hide the fact that Eccleston was going to regenerate and filmed a version in which the series ended with Rose dying and this was reportedly shown to the press, but never broadcast, because it was mainly a fake ending to hide the fact that Eccleston wouldn't be returning and to get a genuine surprise upon broadcast.
I feel like it could be released as a bonus feature but like Spongebob's alternate wishes from Shanghied, it may be a while before it does, or even surfaces for that matter.
@@LocalTorchwoodIntern Maybe if The Collection ever reaches the revival.
I saw Doctor What at the Grand Theatre in Swansea. The only bit I really remember was the 12 days of Christmas with the “Garlics”
Anyone ever hear of "A Wild Endevour?" It was gonna be a fanmade prequel to the classic series that was supposed to come out around 2014-2015 (ish) about how The Doctor and The Master became enemies, and not reveal who was who til the end, when they finally get their names.
We need an updated version in the next couple years on this topic to see what has surfaced & what unfortunately has disappeared since this original video.
I've got one which is rather interesting and quite obscure..
I fondly remember watching Nickelodeon UK, broadcasting their own version of the Kids Choice Awards between 2007 - 08. Doctor Who was one of the four nominees for the best TV show category in both years. Doctor Who didn't win and the winning category went to Drake & Josh on both occasions.
In 2008 there was a new category dedicating to Favourite TV baddie, & the Daleks were one of the nominees. I remember two other nominees, Simon Cowell & Plankton. Unfortunately I don't remember the fourth nominee. Simon Cowell wins the category and they re-use footage of Simon accepting the award for the X Factor one year prior as he didn't attend both events in person.
To make up for his second absence, within a few seconds in for accepting the TV baddie award in the re-used footage, he gets exterminated by a Dalek, showing his 'supposed' skeleton. The Dalek would then appear at the stage left expressing it's anger & disappointment in loosing the category. The Dalek would then give punishment to the front audience by activating 'Dalek Slime', the typical Nickelodeon green slime. Afterwards the Dalek would descend back down behind the logo and the camera would then go back to the host Danni Minogue.
The Dalek clip was on RUclips I believe for at least a number of years until it was taken down. I tried to look for the footage, but it isn't anywhere to be found except a image of the Dalek on stage by the choice awards logo on Google images. Other than that I consider this to be lost media.
I never knew there was a Doctor Who live stage play in the 80's with Jon Pertwee and Colin Baker!
Do you have any more information on the Elizabeth Sladen thing from the end? I know you said this was relayed to you by someone (and, of course, it could be not true), but do you know if it would have been an entirely new episode or a scene that would have been in one of the episodes from that series? I'm not sure if I entirely believe it (mainly because series 9 was 4 years after she died), but it's super interesting nonetheless.
Awesome video though! Lots of stuff I had never even heard of in here :)
Cheers for watching I've shared everything my mate relate to me in the video, and if you watch that segment again you should find the answer to your question, if you still don't believe the information then that's fair enough, I did try digging for any other clarification or mirrored articles but I couldn't come up with anything, so I'm afraid I haven't got anything else backing my claim.
@@ScribblestoScreen no worries. Maybe if I ever meet Moffat or anybody I could ask them about this. It's certainly interesting either way!
My father and later I myself both worked on the original Whos. I did some of the very first recolourisations, I know my stuff - I didn't know some of this ! Well done !
Fantastic video and very interesting stuff. I knew a lot of this but not all.
I do have some other knowledge on lost media with "Doctor Who" and things to do with it. Mostly speculation and rumors for one of them but it is interesting;
1. There was a canceled 2nd Doctor story called "Prison in Space" by Dick Sharples. It was made eventually by Big Finish and released in their "Doctor Who; The Lost Stories; The Second Doctor" boxset. I've heard from speculation that pre-production was done on the story, with the guard costumes from "The War Games" being ones that were made originally for "Prison in Space".
2. "Midnight" from series 4 of the revived era of the show was originally going to be a cross-over between the show and "Most Haunted", but never happened. Again, Big Finish came to the rescue and the 10th Doctor audio; "No Place" is a re-working of this un-made series 4 story.
3. The cover artwork for the Virgin New Adventure "Sleepy" apparently references an un-made entry in the range involving a virus.
(and for the big one);
4. In the early 2000s when there was still no "Doctor Who" on TV ran both Big Finish audios and various novels by BBC books, with the latter being released as the Eighth Doctor Adventures and the Past Doctor Adventures line of books - commonly shortened to EDAs and PDAs -. Whenever Russel T Davis revived the show some books from these ranges were still published for a short while, with them ultimately coming to an end in 2006. The last BBC novel to feature the Eighth Doctor was called "Fear Itself", but is considered a PDA and not an EDA because Christopher Ecclestone had made his debut by this point. The final book to be published from either range in 2006 was called "Atom Bomb Blues" and featured the seventh Doctor, however this was originally not meant to be. I don't know what the ideas were but the BBC did have some to continue the range after this book but ultimately canceled the PDAs in favor for the new range of novels based on the revived series.
The Fonz & the Happy Days Gang being a reworked version of an attempted Doctor Who animated series was debunked years ago by DWM.
Cosgrove hall after doing the animation for the invasion episode 1 and 4 pitched a full animation for the power of the daleks, they created a test reel of a few scenes from the story and there are a few pictures of this in the dalek handbook
Coming to think of it aswell there is also a reel of test footage from the 2016 animation of the power of the daleks that was uploaded to RUclips and removed shortly after, I have a video of that but I wish I could find the cosgrove hall version online too
Don’t the Howard Da Silva tapes of the Fourth Doctor trailers of 1978 in the US count as lost media? Okay the fact is that PBS possibly scrapped the visual tapes with the only gradual existence being audio records, and scenes reconstructed with each of the episodes.
Does the original/uncut cliffhanger of The Deadly Assassin part 3 count as (used to be) lost media?
Well it's certainly a case of interesting media that was unobtainable for a while
@@ScribblestoScreen When I first saw that scene, I fell from my bed and onto the floor... CRYING!
I know The Doctor was okay at the next part, but Geez.
I still hate Chancellor Goth, I had to portray him as a psychopathic villain in my fanfics ( Post - The Deadly Assassin, I have a character who can bring people back to life ).
According to Roberta Tovey, who played Susan in the Dr. Who and the Daleks movie, The Keys of Marinus was also considered as a third Who movie, as well as The Chase. She said this on the DVD commentary. There are also a whole, ongoing, series of Cushing Dr. novels, vased on the fictional premise that this became a long running movie franchise. They're available from Obverse Books.
Season one has 9 missing episides and season two only 2 episides. Not ten.
While it may have been difficult to do, I think an episode covering the passing of Sarah Jane could've worked pretty well. Maybe somehow have it tie in to the looming threat of Clara's demise in series 9. If the footage still exists, perhaps it can be reworked into the upcoming 60th Anniversary special, considering Tennant is coming back
Level 11 is whatever lives in Ian Levine’s basement.
BBV is Bill and Ben Video? Well, who knew!
(BTW ‘Land of Giants’ is actually titled Planet of Giants)
I'm hoping that Time Fracture releases it show on DVD for those who were unable to attend and maybe the John Barrowman scene could be a bonus feature. Also, Devious is currently on it's third episode, which features a small cameo from Second Doctor impressionist Chris Walken-Thomson. I guess it's an advantage of taking so long to edit, as Chris wasn't around when the project first started.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned the 2012 fan film remake of 'Power of the Daleks'. Adapted by Nick Scovell, it was uploaded to RUclips before being taken down when the BBC issued a copyright claim. Which prompted rumours that the original tapes had been recovered.
I also have one. Recently a DW Fan Film Legend, Chris Hoyle just disappeared including every trace of his fan films that I've seen. Hopefully you can help me find it.
The actor who played the Doctor in the Severn Keys to Doomsday was played by Trevor Martin!
Another good one is the 1906 French novel Doctor Omega, which has many similarities with the First Doctor version of the show, which was of course still over half a century away from its first appearance. It's unlikely it influenced it in any way though, as the book wasn't translated into English untill the 2000's, and it's been suggrested that the translater may have embellished the story somewhat, so as to exaggerate the similarities. Still, if you wish to produce your own Doctor Who story, as a novel, film, audio drama, whatever, but know your idea would never be licensed by the BBC, you're free to use Doctor Omega and his companions instead, as they're long out of copyright.
Sorry for nit-picking but I'm very sure you are confused somewhat, Land of the Giants was a show by Irwin Allan and the Classic DW story was Planet of The Giants, which was originally going to be set in Coal Hill School, which was in An Unearthly Child but is now only available to those who have the physical media, like the Video and the DVD's that upto just recently contains the two versions of the pilot episode and was written as a four part story and then adapted to a three parter instead.
I'm a fan since the late 70s and the amount of episodes found in my lifetime is amazing. I recall when the number was way over 100 missing. Would love to see them all but we should be thankful that Tomb of the Cybermen, The Ice Warriors, The Web of Fear, The Enemy of the World, Evil of the Daleks pat.2, half of Underwater Menace, half of The Crusade, Galaxy 4 pt. 3, Invasion (of the Dinosaurs) pat. 1 all were found in the last 40 years.
You forgot one thing scribbles to screen you forgot about tom baker failed return to doctor who in 1996 for the tv movie
I'm suprised that you didn't mention the whole thing with David Burton as the Doctor, although it's unknown what actually is true about that whole situation.
I love this video!
K9 Timequake should be out any day now!
Really good video, i Imagine how long did research and editing took
Yayyy! I found a good channel!
I was gonna put this up but it’s more obscure than lost.
There were 2 fan made Doctor Who cartoons made in the 80’s by Terminus Tardis, Dial D for Dalek and The Hues of Doom. Dial D for Dalek is on RUclips while The Hues of Doom is on dailymotion
Well I suppose it be nice to know the background for both animations
I love those two!
What about the Thunderbirds lost media
This isn't lost, but it certainly is quite obscure: The Purple Rose of Skaro. A HILARIOUS parody of doctor who starring Davros and the master.
fun fact in the U.S, disney aired doctor who for a short time.
Trapped in cabinets trapped in cabinets
Will he get out can he get out
i'm surprised you haven't mentioned aboult how most of the early jon pertwee episodes were wiped and were later restored in the 90s and today, using off air NTSC videotapes from america and the 16mm B/W telerecordings for overseas sales(as well as reverse standards conversion, chroma dot colour recovery and manual colourisation). edit: aboult the tardis prop used in "get of of my cloud", the out of the unknown production team borrowed it after studio recording of episode 5 of the mind robber. the tardis prop didin't have a telephone cabinet at the time, and it was installed for "get off of my cloud". you can spot this telephone cabinet in the final scene of part 8 of "the invasion", which was when the tardis prop was returned to the doctor who production team after "get off of my cloud" was recorded.
I thought I was the only one who knew about timequake XD
soundcloud.com/doctor-whowho/journey-into-time
There's a fan made reconstruction of the peter cushing radio pilot!
Thanks for linking this, I really want to check it out, first time I heard about this
That's sad, that Elizabeth Slaton, ie Dr Who companion with Tom Baker for many years, has passed away before him. Baker has to be in his 90s now. RIP Sarah Jane.😟😢
He turned 88 yesterday.
you look like youd be a classic doctor
you also look like ypu have me trapped in your basement
People hear a British accent and immediately go "you could be the Doctor!".
I would love to know what that weird Gourd headed Dalek on the thumbnail is
That's a Garlek, from the Chuckle Brothers show Doctor What.
@@boblowes Oh okay, that makes sense
Yet another video that doesn't know the difference between lost/missing media and unoroduced media. If it's unproduced, then it doesn't exist and thus isn't lost. Very poor form to conflate the two.
It's great BBC soundtracks are being redone as animated videos. Some of these have featured Patrick Troughton and Jo Peewee
I still am not sure why they do not do a go back,, either the Dr telling the stories of the past to the companions. or a just a time shift back.
And remaking the complete old stories were episodes are missing, or were a whole story is lost. Since very few people would have seen these then its not really a remake.
Out of all the Classic Doctor Who actors, Jo Perwee seems to have aged the least. I am glad he got appear in fan protection before his passing.
I actually never heard of doctor who yeti's before this video
#9 Chameleon Circuit's 3rd album and legal controversy
Humbug, you didn't even mention the doctor who Disney film! Or any of their reference material!
Why not just have the missing episodes re-enacted?
Oh dear. I legit didn't wanna do this cos the iceberg video trend is the most fucking boring thing ever, but here we are... and before anyone says otherwise, I'm gonna correct the FACTS, not the FEELS. Mainly pointing out incorrect information.
Level 1:
- the John Barrowman drama is the dumbest shit ever, and I'd be surprised if it doesn't turn up at somepoint.
- Season 23 was the one that got put on hiatus, not season 26.
- the first point of the missing episodes was basically what everyone and their gran knows (which I can excuse for this being level 1). However, its such a widely known thing that its not even worth putting on the list! But hey, no fan theories yet, so there's that. Also way to go for not explaining the original 1963-1967 titles only exist in HD now cos a film collector had the original titles film insert. GG
Level 2:
- Weird. I thought it was confirmed they'd adapt the chase with Mechons and such.
- NO FAN THEORIES! For god's sake, I just praised you for not falling into that cliche! No shit you're rambling...!
- The entire production of The Destroyers is a mystery. You want actual research done on this? Check out Terry Nation Army, a multi-part series by the guys from Dalek 6388.
- Okay, this is something we gotta talk about. Timeline Whiplash. (perhaps you could say a Timelash...? il see myself out) For crying out loud, organize these things a little better. I'm getting head trauma being pulled back and forth through the years with mediocre research. Now, the scene from Terror of the Zygons wasn't cut for grading issues. It was actually cut because the time of day changed during filming the various scenes involving the invisible TARDIS. That's not really grading, that's just lighting issues. Did you even watch the episode with Info Text on? NO, IT WAS PARTIALLY COLOURISED! Most of the original film insert was already in colour!
- interesting point on Robot of Sherwood. Except that technically it was officially released (ONLY TECHNICALLY), and at the time was very easy to access. But this doesn't make it a lost media thing because it still fucking exists, albiet in black and white only.
- from what I gathered on my own research and listening to DVD stuff, the alternate ending to Journey's End was part of a scene that technically was never finished, as rewrites were done. As well as the thing you mentioned; TONE.
- I like how you just took the Season 27 concepts from the Survival DVD and stuck em here. Classy. This scene sums the issue up: ruclips.net/video/g2zPfRKQkKg/видео.html Also, considering these were recycled and adapted post-cancellation, these aren't really lost media either...
- Wait, what? You don't just skim over something like Totally Doctor Who and Doctor Who Confidential being officially unreleased in their original form! Oh, and the level's over. I fear it only gets worse from here... Lost Media Iceberg? More like the Poor Research Iceberg, AHAHAHA!
Level 3:
- Actually, those reboot ideas stemmed from the talks about a Doctor Who movie... we all know how that went. And the movie was a backdoor pilot, so pretty much yeah. It wasn't that good though.
BREAK: I'm shocked I'm the only guy who disliked this...
Level 5
- Not even a transition from the Doctor Who spinoffs to Devious! What the fuck is this editing?!? Like seriously!
- Wait, that was level 5? JUST TWO FUCKING ENTRIES?
Level 6
- I like how it's not even mentioned that Terry Molloy was there as Davros.
- Oh wow, again, you can find better information on the Out Of The Unknown daleks cameo on Dalek 6388's Terry Nation Army. Nice copying of information.
- Planet of Giants SHOOTING script, not film script...!
Okay, I give up. Sorry, I just can't take much more of this! Hope SOME of this was useful to you. Take care and good day.
cancel culture strikes again
Lol 😂
I have some
'It's The Few Doctor' a fan made parody made for the panoptocin and had a limited vhs release featuring Doctors 1-8 (played by other actors of course)
Fan edit version of 'Light at the End' the 50th anniversary audio drama featuring the Ninth, Tenth and Eleventh Doctors
Full Blue Peter Segment of the Ninth Doctor in character
Full disney club segment featuring the Seventh Doctor
Original 1963 Radio (also possible TV) trailer for An Unearthly Child
Ninth, Eleventh and Thirteenth Doctor Deleted Scenes for their series, only a small few have been releases online for the Eleventh Doctor (some of which only being made available as descriptions in the Doctor Who Companion Magazine: The Eleventh Doctor range)
A deleted monster from the Thirteeenth Doctor Story with the talking frog
Twice Upon A Time Deleted Scenes, one which has been released online and two or three which were included in the original trailer and the Target novelisation (Also a possible but maybe not true rumoured Extended Edition)
Stephen Moffat's original script for blink which was made available during the lockdown watchalongs (which is now gone as the website was taken down)
Series 8 workprints
TV Movie full original opening and original workprint version as well as some possible deleted scenes
No DVD releases of the radioplay and audio drama webcasts, Dimensions in Time and Curse of Fatal Death
Possible interview from the 80's or 90's
Crash of the Elysium
The Doctor Who Experience, shows and performances one or two featuring Eleven and two featuring Twelve
Original Time Fracture as the one that's on now is a new version and I don't just mean due to John Barrowman, with possibly neither being recorded
Ian Levine's projects, and his Dalek's Masterplan animation
Whoflix's fan edit of Twice Upon A Time
A Twelfth Doctor written short story released online alongside series 9 on the BBC's webpage for the series