I love how Burr’s end pose from The Room Where It Happens is an inverted reference to Hamilton’s in My Shot. Both songs are their “I want” songs. Hamilton ends his with his hand raised high, head held high. Burr ends his with his hand pointing down at the floor and gaze following suit. The fact that they’re both referencing shooting (both in the pose itself, with their fingers like guns, and with the lyrics talking about “my *shot”* and *”click boom”)* is just the gold glazed cherry on top
Someone has to show these two the meme of "Dad is going to find out any minute." *loud crashing, screaming, cussing off screen happening* "I'm sure he already knows"
My favorite tiny detail in The Room Where It Happens - when Burr is standing on the table with the red tablecloth and jumps, they pull it out from under him and the blue light reflects back up - that's Burr changing parties to nab Philip Schuyler's senate seat.
Fun fact: In the original draft of "Schuyler Defeated", Eliza at one point before it focuses on Hamilton and Burr, says "I've got to stop a homicide!" because she knows how irrational her husband is when he thinks he's been disrespected. 🤣
I want to point out that Mortius said "Washington on his side" FIRST in this reaction, and then Casper echoed that later. Just needed to say that one doesn't count as a prophecy! BUT the "did he forget lafayette??" made me laugh so hard.
The thing is "The Room Where It Happens" is his "I want" song, and putting it in the 2nd act is symbolic of him not knowing what he wants until it's too late
Ehh, not entirely? Burr has always known what he wants, it's just that his methods held him back. He was too passive, and he realizes that when Hamilton uses his own tactic in a single night better than he has throughout his entire life. His purely passive approach won't get him what he wants, and he only accepts that in this song once the entire cast has more or less forced him to. It's less that he's too late to realize what he wants, but more that it's too late for him to take action in a way that will get him results in the way he wants as soon as he wants them.
@@colt1903 That's one interpretation, but mine was always that this was the moment he realizes what HE wants. There are a lot of times in Act 1 when Hamilton effectively asks Burr what he wants/stands for. We see it with his wife, we see it with the federalist papers. Even when he sings "Wait for It" Burr doesn't sign about what he wants. He sings about what's expected of him "a legacy to protect" "if there's a reason I'm still alive, when so many have died" He knows there's something worth waiting for, but not yet what he's waiting for. Then this song comes along and Hamilton asks "What do you want Burr" and he mentally flashes through Act 1 to realize that THIS, this is what he wants. THIS is what he's been waiting for. I'm not sure I agree that he realized it too late, though, since the way it shook out had to do with one person's opinions and not timming.
I know in actual history, Jefferson often came to work in his Pajama's, and judged those who dressed up so I was assuming Jefferson ragging on Hamilton's fashion sense was that fun fact!
Ya can't really hate on Burr for being upset here either. Think about it, Burr has lived his whole life under that "Talke Less, Smile More" tactic. Hamilton just decides to go with it on a whim one day, and immediately has more success with it in a SINGLE NIGHT than Burr has had with it throughout HIS ENTIRE LIFE. YEAH. I'D BE PISSED TOO!😂
One of my fave things someone told me about Hamilton was how Lin uses the placement of an 'I want' song to tell us something about the characters. Like, Hamiltons I Want song is 'My Shot'. It's RIGHT at the beginning of the show. He cannot WAIT to tell us what he wants. He''s open and fine with talking. Burrs I Want song is 'The Room Where It Happens' which is halfway through Act2 and only becomes an I Want song after the ENTIRE cast FORCES Burr to tell us. He's closed off and has to be forced to tell us about his wants. BUT! After he does tell us, it comes spilling out and becomes his driving force. I love this musical and Lins writing so much!
The Room Where It Happens is perhaps one of my favourite songs from the whole song, which I know isn't a hot take or uncommon opinion, but still *it's so good!*
@@meaypie11 Oh btw they're referring to a funny tiktok where someone, like always, mixes up the Armstrongs and it cuts to another clip, Louis Armstrong is on the moon while a guy perfectly imitates his voice, the funniest part is that the guy couldn't keep up the voice and just laughed hysterically 🤣
I think that, on top of “no-one else was in the room where it happened” being lin's slightly hyperbolic way of explaining the situation, it's also commentary on how politicians make deals over drinks or meals and we, the general population that, you know, votes for them, have no idea what happens because those conversations aren’t recorded. It’s also banger of a song! Just 🔥
My understanding is that this wasn't hyperbolic at all, and historians have always referred to this deal as a mystery using the exact phrase, "no one was in the room where it happened" to capture we have no record of what was said/done at all.
Pay attention to the table cloth towards the end of the room where it happens. The tablecloth was red, but when it gets removed, the table is blue, being symbolic of burr changing parties.
Actually Lafayette is French aristocracy. Exactly who the French public are having this revolution against. I'm pretty sure that Lafayette was in prison at this point, or soon.
Notice how at the beginning of The Room Where it Happens, Alex gives very minimal responses to Aaron. Showing how he's already "talking less." Oooor it could be because now he has a big secret to hide.
"The Room Where it Happened" does a great job of demonstrating the indicator of a great negotiation: it is to convince the other side that they came out on top - while believing that you came out on top.
my favorite moment in this song is a choreography choice, stupidly simple but i love the fact moment when Burr is on the table, he jumps and the "rug is pulled from under his feet"
Casper's the reverse Cassandra, an Antissandra, if you will Where she had prophesies that no one else would believe, Casper's the only one in the room that doesn't understand the weight of what he just said
Mortius has a better ear for vocals and lyrics, Casper has a better ear for instrumentals and motifs. They complement each other perfectly, which is why these reactions are so cool
Declaration of war requires an act of congress. The president CAN order troops into action that include undeclared wars like police actions in Vietnam.
My favorite part of The Room Where it Happens is the choreography and blocking!! The same sequence of movements from before the first sung line is repeated 2 more times from Jefferson and then Madison’s POV. You can see it in how Burr and Hamilton are next to each other, Jefferson and Madison move across the front of the stage and Madison’s temple tap and wave to Hamilton. All of that happens 3 times within the song and it’s great!!! Edit to add: I believe this is where Hamilton and Burr’s blocking styles start to switch, or have fully switched. In the first act, Burr would walk in straight lines while Hamilton walked in sweeping arch’s. Now Burr moves in more of an arch and Hamilton moves in more straight lines :)
If you pay attention, at the end of the room where it happens Burr is standing pointing downwards, while in the show cover/poster (idk what to call it) you can see Hamilton pointing up. It shows how opposite their views and stands are
In "The room where it happens", When Burr jumps on the table and the RED table cloth is removed to show a BLUE table top is signifying Burr switching parties. :)
Probably General Hugh Mercer. Great historical nugget & historical song. We only have Jefferson’s writings on what happened that night. “Thomas claims” is telling us that the song is describing his writings. Also that the writings are considered “unreliable narration” by historians. Historically it’s our first major example of that old saying “government decisions are made over lunch rather than over house floors” Great song and reaction.
Fun fact!!! If you pay very close attention to burr you can see that he is constantly walking in straight lines. This is to show his straight forwardness (while Hamilton walks in arcs) but half way through the song burr breaks this pattern. We can see him walk in arcs multiple times. He’s slowly, but surely, changing his ways. Becoming less forward and going slightly insane with jealously!!
This song hit me hard when I first heard it. I've always been more of a lyric person and I agreed so hard with Burr during this song. Personally there were two lines in addition to the two you highlighted that I think deserve a spotlight too "No one really knows how the parties get to "Yes"/The pieces that are sacrificed in every game of chess" "My God, In God We Trust/But we never really know what got discussed"
I gotta say I didn't get so cerebral about Room Where It Happens having banjos, but when he made the connection to the south, I was like 😮 because of Hamilton's trade.
It's also important to remember that Lafayette AND Jefferson drafted a declaration before going home, Jefferson was with France from the jump. (This is not me being pro Jefferson in general I have a very pointed vendetta against Jefferson as a person)
Casper’s Danishness is showing through. The compromise, known as the dinner table compromise, was huge for the history of the U.S. and set the stage for the power of the federal government. The federal government assumed all the debts of the states and the current financial system of the U.S. and placed Washington DC where it is today. It’s a huge deal in US history. Often, pre-Hamilton the musical, it was one of Hamilton’s few mentions in U.S. history books.
Burr going from Narrator in the first half of Room Where it Happens to it being a huge character moment for him is so genius it's my favorite part of the musical.
Ok, so fun fact. I spent most of my life living in Mercer County, NJ named after the same Mercer that they're mentioning here. I’m looking something up and the most populous municipality is Hamilton Township.
@42:35 Cabinet meetings, while not technically open to the public, have minutes avaliable to the public. While we no longer have this particular discussion available there would have been a public record. (I want to say we have back to the late 1800's, but I've been out of college way to long to say for certain.)
You know I get the Casper kind of thought Hamilton was out of line, but honestly they did sign a treaty with a king who is now dead, and Jefferson tries to pull on the strings of "destination helped us in our time of need we should help them stand up against the pressures"but we signed a treaty with a government that wasn't even really trying to help us for the sake of helping us, they were helping us to get one over on Britain, so I completely get Hamilton shoving his ideals aside for this moment, he might want to help but his Nation can't support it and there are pragmatic reasons not to do it other than that
The political explanation on the War powers was partially wrong. Congress has the sole power to declare war, which hasn't happened since WW2. And while the President has the power to send and command troops to take actions overseas without a formal declaration, but prolonged operations have to be given approval by Congress. Every conflict since then (Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and the "War on Terror," etc.) have been done through Congressional approval.
37:01 Just wanted to point out that what Mortius just said is actually wrong, at least for modern day. I don’t know about back in the like late 1700s- early 1800s, but the U.S. president is NOT able to declare war. Congress is the only part of the U.S. government that is able to declare war. Just a minor correction, sorry!
Two more points I remembered is that Cabinet Battle #2 is more about convincing Washington to send aid, which he doesn’t need congressional approval for and many presidents do this without actually going to war.
@@MK-013the USA hasn't formally declared war on anyone since WWII, the Truman Doctrine was just a political declaration, it didn't change the legal framework
Could be myth, but I saw somewhere that in DC, USPS cars can have the same right of way as for example a police car with sirens in case a declaration of war is on board from congress to the president.
Satisfied and The Room Where It Happens are the two songs that single-handedly earned their respective singers each a Tony Award for Best Featured Actress and Best Actor. Leslie had a lot more material to work with than Renee, but he killed it in this song.
The original capital of the US was Philadelphia, which for Alexander and Aaron commuting from NYC was way easier than compared to the other founding fathers from the South.
Honestly, at this point with how many Nat20s tehre are from Casper as well as the great details he notices in lyricism and the music itself, I would die if you two were to watch and analyze the 1991 Into the Woods Stage Recording. There is so much you could talk about in both music, lyrics and on stage and since it's Sondheim, one of the masters in lyricism in my eyes, it would be sooo cool to see that honestly
@@mgailp I did say the 1991 stage recording for a reason lol Though I gotta admit, I saw the movie first and it holds a special place in my heart. It is a great movie in my eyes but not as an adaption of the stage musical. In comparison, it is bad. But if it were a stand alone movie, it would be a great movie. However, the stage production is sooo great and it truly is the work of a genius, which is why I really want to see the two of them watching and analyzing it.
The room where it happens is such an interesting moment, character-wise. Hamilton succeeds by becoming more like Burr and Burr realizes that, to get what he wants, he needs to become more like Hamilton. Also, that tablecloth pull. Perfection.
Hamilton actually regarded Jefferson as more of an rival than Burr. The Cabinet Battle songs being between these two is probably because they were the pair who was constantly bickering in most cabinet meetings once the "honeymoon" wore off.
I’m no expert but the northern states owed a lot of money while va didn’t. I think Hamilton was trying to get the debts paid so he could move forward and get financial systems going with everyone aboard.
Please tell me you'll check out the cut out songs as well! There's a longer version of Schuyler Defeated for example! They're pretty top bangers, some are completely new songs some are alternative versions of the one's in the musical ruclips.net/video/EZkANYGycNU/видео.htmlsi=pVM-CTgpxs4u2zFf Is a great playlist for them, they don't have all the songs (there is another version of Hurricane out there with a new voice and new lyrics compared to the musical) but I think this is most of them! I'd love to see this on RUclips as well!!
ruclips.net/video/_yIt2X5PtEs/видео.htmlsi=UPIQCidGztWYh4Hl Found the alternative hurricane! There is also an animatic for it as well if you'd prefer to watch that, it calls it the workshop version of the song comes up like immediately when you look up "Hurricane off Broadway"
Did you hear the Wisdom Saga livestream had to be split up because it got suspended by RUclips in the middle of a song? That’ll be fun for you guys to try and work with
If you guys want answers to most of the questions you posed, and have a bit of free time, the Hamilcast podcast is one of the best Hamilton resources out there. In-depth interviews with most of the cast and creatives, lots of behind-the-scenes stuff, they even take you through the entire development of some songs. It’s great stuff
Yep. "Thomas claims" is a very clever and particular wording for those lines. Thomas Jefferson was pretty well-known as a liar, willing to twist everything to make himself look better and everyone else worse.
Yeah, Casper. Aaron Burr was once a Federalist like Hamilton and Philip Schuyler (and other people that will be mentioned later), but he switched to the Democratic-Republican party with Jefferson and Madison to run against Schuyler.
Congress, not the President, has the sole power to declare war. This is detailed in the Constitution. Increasingly throughout the 20th century, Congress abdicated their responsibility, ceding power to the Executive branch.
another song almost certainly inspired by Lin-Manuel and Chris Jackson watching The West Wing during the run of In the Heights, this one from 20 Hours in America Part 2 - "I've worked here three years and eight months and until you sit in the room all day, you can't comprehend the chaos of the Oval Office."... "I've got to get back in there. That's where it's happening." This is the second time LMM quotes Sam Seaborn, in fact, with the Schuyler Sisters' "I'm looking for a mind at work" coming from his "Because before I look for anything, I look for a mind at work." from The U.S. Poet Laureate. When Miranda wrote a closing rap during the 65th Tony Awards, he called himself Sam Seaborn, and Tommy Kail Toby Ziegler. (Kail wanted to be another character, Josh Lyman, instead) And of course, Sam Seaborn was the character who went to D&D camp, to go with all the Natural 20/Natural 1 talk.
Banjo note: banjos were also used in early jazz (think 1920s jazz, or even the soundtrack to "Cabaret" taking place in the 1930s). So they're still sticking to the jazzy feel of Act II with that inclusion, but that doesn't discount the Southern references either. I'm dithering. There's so much packed into this musical. #chessnotcheckers
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I love how Burr’s end pose from The Room Where It Happens is an inverted reference to Hamilton’s in My Shot. Both songs are their “I want” songs. Hamilton ends his with his hand raised high, head held high. Burr ends his with his hand pointing down at the floor and gaze following suit. The fact that they’re both referencing shooting (both in the pose itself, with their fingers like guns, and with the lyrics talking about “my *shot”* and *”click boom”)* is just the gold glazed cherry on top
Also, Hamilton says he's not throwing away his shot, but in the end, that's exactly what he does.
@@piperbird7193SPOILER! REMOVE this
And Aaron Burr is all about Wait for It, but he didn't wait.
At this point we need a “Casper Nat 20 Predictions” compilation haha 😂🎉 love y’all sm
Fr would Love a compilation. Also his quiet "Did I do it again?" Was adorable lol
the suffering in Mortius' eyes every time Casper has his prophet moment is hilarious XD
he's constantly fighting to not break character
Someone has to show these two the meme of "Dad is going to find out any minute." *loud crashing, screaming, cussing off screen happening* "I'm sure he already knows"
I can't listen to that tiny song without that playing in my head 🤣
@randomwriter9570 I know right!!
Phillip: Daddy’s gonna find out any minute
Hamilton, upstairs: BUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
No cause I heard that before watching Hamilton and thought it was actually in the song-
I remember seeing a meme of a similar shade.
"I'm sure he already knows-"
*Cue Hamilton running past a window screaming*
My favorite tiny detail in The Room Where It Happens - when Burr is standing on the table with the red tablecloth and jumps, they pull it out from under him and the blue light reflects back up - that's Burr changing parties to nab Philip Schuyler's senate seat.
😮😮😮
ohh shit
I love how Casper literally just said "No..." And he's already predicting the song
Fun fact: In the original draft of "Schuyler Defeated", Eliza at one point before it focuses on Hamilton and Burr, says "I've got to stop a homicide!" because she knows how irrational her husband is when he thinks he's been disrespected. 🤣
I want to point out that Mortius said "Washington on his side" FIRST in this reaction, and then Casper echoed that later. Just needed to say that one doesn't count as a prophecy! BUT the "did he forget lafayette??" made me laugh so hard.
The thing is "The Room Where It Happens" is his "I want" song, and putting it in the 2nd act is symbolic of him not knowing what he wants until it's too late
Ehh, not entirely? Burr has always known what he wants, it's just that his methods held him back. He was too passive, and he realizes that when Hamilton uses his own tactic in a single night better than he has throughout his entire life. His purely passive approach won't get him what he wants, and he only accepts that in this song once the entire cast has more or less forced him to.
It's less that he's too late to realize what he wants, but more that it's too late for him to take action in a way that will get him results in the way he wants as soon as he wants them.
@@colt1903 That's one interpretation, but mine was always that this was the moment he realizes what HE wants.
There are a lot of times in Act 1 when Hamilton effectively asks Burr what he wants/stands for. We see it with his wife, we see it with the federalist papers. Even when he sings "Wait for It" Burr doesn't sign about what he wants. He sings about what's expected of him "a legacy to protect" "if there's a reason I'm still alive, when so many have died"
He knows there's something worth waiting for, but not yet what he's waiting for. Then this song comes along and Hamilton asks "What do you want Burr" and he mentally flashes through Act 1 to realize that THIS, this is what he wants. THIS is what he's been waiting for.
I'm not sure I agree that he realized it too late, though, since the way it shook out had to do with one person's opinions and not timming.
Cabinet Battle 2 contains my favorite piece of Jeffersonian hypocrisy: "dresses like fake royalty", says Jefferson, while wearing purple velvet.
Wait a minu-
My favorite piece from Jefferson is Lin's spoonerism "pits of fashion" and "fits of passion"
I know in actual history, Jefferson often came to work in his Pajama's, and judged those who dressed up so I was assuming Jefferson ragging on Hamilton's fashion sense was that fun fact!
Ya can't really hate on Burr for being upset here either. Think about it, Burr has lived his whole life under that "Talke Less, Smile More" tactic. Hamilton just decides to go with it on a whim one day, and immediately has more success with it in a SINGLE NIGHT than Burr has had with it throughout HIS ENTIRE LIFE.
YEAH.
I'D BE PISSED TOO!😂
One of my fave things someone told me about Hamilton was how Lin uses the placement of an 'I want' song to tell us something about the characters.
Like, Hamiltons I Want song is 'My Shot'. It's RIGHT at the beginning of the show. He cannot WAIT to tell us what he wants. He''s open and fine with talking.
Burrs I Want song is 'The Room Where It Happens' which is halfway through Act2 and only becomes an I Want song after the ENTIRE cast FORCES Burr to tell us. He's closed off and has to be forced to tell us about his wants. BUT! After he does tell us, it comes spilling out and becomes his driving force.
I love this musical and Lins writing so much!
The Room Where It Happens is perhaps one of my favourite songs from the whole song, which I know isn't a hot take or uncommon opinion, but still *it's so good!*
yes room where it happens is the best song
all of burr's songs r my fav
Louis Armstrong on the moon is so amazing 😂😂😂
Fr i've been cackling over "i can't breathe, why's you send me to the moon?" for the past 10 minutes lmao
@@morhido, I hope they make it a short video snippet 😂
23:57 is where it starts.
@@meaypie11 Oh btw they're referring to a funny tiktok where someone, like always, mixes up the Armstrongs and it cuts to another clip, Louis Armstrong is on the moon while a guy perfectly imitates his voice, the funniest part is that the guy couldn't keep up the voice and just laughed hysterically 🤣
The Room Where It Happens is such a good villain origin story.
Exactly, Burr goes full Disney Villain as the song builds.
And Casper called it when he mentioned the song starting with a “danger is coming” melody.
Speaking of characters without lines, Mason is still one of my favorite things about this channel.
I think that, on top of “no-one else was in the room where it happened” being lin's slightly hyperbolic way of explaining the situation, it's also commentary on how politicians make deals over drinks or meals and we, the general population that, you know, votes for them, have no idea what happens because those conversations aren’t recorded. It’s also banger of a song! Just 🔥
My understanding is that this wasn't hyperbolic at all, and historians have always referred to this deal as a mystery using the exact phrase, "no one was in the room where it happened" to capture we have no record of what was said/done at all.
Pay attention to the table cloth towards the end of the room where it happens. The tablecloth was red, but when it gets removed, the table is blue, being symbolic of burr changing parties.
a second of appreciation for Mason "doing the thing" in the best way possible
Actually Lafayette is French aristocracy. Exactly who the French public are having this revolution against. I'm pretty sure that Lafayette was in prison at this point, or soon.
He would be soon. The terror, was several years of infighting that had allies put in prison for loose causes.
Lafayette played a key role in getting the revolution going but once the reign of terror started he fled until napoleon took control.
And then he wouldn't support him either if I recall. I believe his son was in the army for awhile ge he just went out of the limelight.
Notice how at the beginning of The Room Where it Happens, Alex gives very minimal responses to Aaron. Showing how he's already "talking less."
Oooor it could be because now he has a big secret to hide.
I think its both, honestly. Mostly the second tho
“Why’d you send me to the Mooooon” Killed me!!!
have to say i LOOOOVE mortius' hamilton outfit so much!! ate and left no crumbs from the suit to the headphones to the glasses
"The Room Where it Happened" does a great job of demonstrating the indicator of a great negotiation: it is to convince the other side that they came out on top - while believing that you came out on top.
my favorite moment in this song is a choreography choice, stupidly simple but i love the fact moment when Burr is on the table, he jumps and the "rug is pulled from under his feet"
Another thing I love about that part is the lighting change when he lands is representative of him switching political parties.
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Louie armstrong on the moon
Casper's the reverse Cassandra, an Antissandra, if you will
Where she had prophesies that no one else would believe, Casper's the only one in the room that doesn't understand the weight of what he just said
Omg yes! The Room Where It Happens!! (HELP CASPER JUST- PROPHET CASPER STRIKES AGAIN LMFAOO)
a decleration of war does require congress, however the president can send troops without a decleration of war
Which is why technically Vietnam was not a war for the US.
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Yeah Mortius says Casper has the better ear but he catched that "know" instantly
Mortius has a better ear for vocals and lyrics, Casper has a better ear for instrumentals and motifs. They complement each other perfectly, which is why these reactions are so cool
The Louis Armstrong impression ABSOLUTELY CRACKED ME UP hdhxjsjx
Yes the Louis Armstrong bit was AWESOME
Same, i'm fucking cackling 🤣
Declaration of war requires an act of congress. The president CAN order troops into action that include undeclared wars like police actions in Vietnam.
My favorite part of The Room Where it Happens is the choreography and blocking!! The same sequence of movements from before the first sung line is repeated 2 more times from Jefferson and then Madison’s POV. You can see it in how Burr and Hamilton are next to each other, Jefferson and Madison move across the front of the stage and Madison’s temple tap and wave to Hamilton. All of that happens 3 times within the song and it’s great!!!
Edit to add: I believe this is where Hamilton and Burr’s blocking styles start to switch, or have fully switched.
In the first act, Burr would walk in straight lines while Hamilton walked in sweeping arch’s. Now Burr moves in more of an arch and Hamilton moves in more straight lines :)
If you pay attention, at the end of the room where it happens Burr is standing pointing downwards, while in the show cover/poster (idk what to call it) you can see Hamilton pointing up. It shows how opposite their views and stands are
In "The room where it happens", When Burr jumps on the table and the RED table cloth is removed to show a BLUE table top is signifying Burr switching parties. :)
Probably General Hugh Mercer. Great historical nugget & historical song. We only have Jefferson’s writings on what happened that night. “Thomas claims” is telling us that the song is describing his writings. Also that the writings are considered “unreliable narration” by historians. Historically it’s our first major example of that old saying “government decisions are made over lunch rather than over house floors” Great song and reaction.
Fun fact!!! If you pay very close attention to burr you can see that he is constantly walking in straight lines. This is to show his straight forwardness (while Hamilton walks in arcs) but half way through the song burr breaks this pattern. We can see him walk in arcs multiple times. He’s slowly, but surely, changing his ways. Becoming less forward and going slightly insane with jealously!!
The choreography of the room where it happened being repeated 3 times from Hamiltons pov, then Jefferson's, then Madison's 🤌🏻
This song hit me hard when I first heard it. I've always been more of a lyric person and I agreed so hard with Burr during this song. Personally there were two lines in addition to the two you highlighted that I think deserve a spotlight too
"No one really knows how the parties get to "Yes"/The pieces that are sacrificed in every game of chess"
"My God, In God We Trust/But we never really know what got discussed"
banjos, yee-haws and tim foust being the south is killing me lmaoo
I gotta say I didn't get so cerebral about Room Where It Happens having banjos, but when he made the connection to the south, I was like 😮 because of Hamilton's trade.
we need a reaction to scamilton
YESSS
And the cut songs
@@____thecommenter1569 especially one last ride
5:40 its almost like DYING IS EASY, LIVING IS HARDER! Ayyyyyy
The magic trick followed by 'the thing' sound effects broke me 💀 Then i had to pause to recoup myself after the Louis Armstrong I'm on the moon 🤣🤣🤣
I would like to note, that I LOVE Mason becoming the silent 3rd reactor, I'm Mason's fan ❤
It's also important to remember that Lafayette AND Jefferson drafted a declaration before going home, Jefferson was with France from the jump.
(This is not me being pro Jefferson in general I have a very pointed vendetta against Jefferson as a person)
Mason is absolutely the main character of OAR. DO THE THING, MASON! *elephant noises*
Casper’s Danishness is showing through. The compromise, known as the dinner table compromise, was huge for the history of the U.S. and set the stage for the power of the federal government. The federal government assumed all the debts of the states and the current financial system of the U.S. and placed Washington DC where it is today. It’s a huge deal in US history. Often, pre-Hamilton the musical, it was one of Hamilton’s few mentions in U.S. history books.
I’m sad I couldn’t be here for the premiere of my second favorite song in Hamilton, but I’m glad you guys liked it
I didn't even know it was on, but was delighted to join in. Sorry you couldn't, though. 😢
@@meaypie11 it’s fine, I basically know the gist, just a bunch of prophet emojis and yelling at the two of them being dorks
What’s your first? Just curious haha
@@chopin7788top three
#1: what did I miss
#2: room where it happened
#3: your obedient servant
Burr going from Narrator in the first half of Room Where it Happens to it being a huge character moment for him is so genius it's my favorite part of the musical.
Ok, so fun fact. I spent most of my life living in Mercer County, NJ named after the same Mercer that they're mentioning here. I’m looking something up and the most populous municipality is Hamilton Township.
@42:35 Cabinet meetings, while not technically open to the public, have minutes avaliable to the public. While we no longer have this particular discussion available there would have been a public record. (I want to say we have back to the late 1800's, but I've been out of college way to long to say for certain.)
Hopped in at an excellent point. "Wait for it, wait for it"
i just noticed the opening jingle is open arms - "this life is amazing"
You know I get the Casper kind of thought Hamilton was out of line, but honestly they did sign a treaty with a king who is now dead, and Jefferson tries to pull on the strings of "destination helped us in our time of need we should help them stand up against the pressures"but we signed a treaty with a government that wasn't even really trying to help us for the sake of helping us, they were helping us to get one over on Britain, so I completely get Hamilton shoving his ideals aside for this moment, he might want to help but his Nation can't support it and there are pragmatic reasons not to do it other than that
The political explanation on the War powers was partially wrong. Congress has the sole power to declare war, which hasn't happened since WW2. And while the President has the power to send and command troops to take actions overseas without a formal declaration, but prolonged operations have to be given approval by Congress.
Every conflict since then (Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and the "War on Terror," etc.) have been done through Congressional approval.
37:01 Just wanted to point out that what Mortius just said is actually wrong, at least for modern day. I don’t know about back in the like late 1700s- early 1800s, but the U.S. president is NOT able to declare war. Congress is the only part of the U.S. government that is able to declare war. Just a minor correction, sorry!
Two more points I remembered is that Cabinet Battle #2 is more about convincing Washington to send aid, which he doesn’t need congressional approval for and many presidents do this without actually going to war.
@@MK-013the USA hasn't formally declared war on anyone since WWII, the Truman Doctrine was just a political declaration, it didn't change the legal framework
@@alexandercharizard3617 My bad, thanks fir correcting me
Could be myth, but I saw somewhere that in DC, USPS cars can have the same right of way as for example a police car with sirens in case a declaration of war is on board from congress to the president.
Satisfied and The Room Where It Happens are the two songs that single-handedly earned their respective singers each a Tony Award for Best Featured Actress and Best Actor. Leslie had a lot more material to work with than Renee, but he killed it in this song.
The original capital of the US was Philadelphia, which for Alexander and Aaron commuting from NYC was way easier than compared to the other founding fathers from the South.
Casper stays rolling 20's! The man is non stop!
Honestly, at this point with how many Nat20s tehre are from Casper as well as the great details he notices in lyricism and the music itself, I would die if you two were to watch and analyze the 1991 Into the Woods Stage Recording. There is so much you could talk about in both music, lyrics and on stage and since it's Sondheim, one of the masters in lyricism in my eyes, it would be sooo cool to see that honestly
😮😮😮 ooh, possible future project! Neat!
Yes, please do! Just make sure you use the stage recording and not _THAT_ movie.
@@mgailp I did say the 1991 stage recording for a reason lol Though I gotta admit, I saw the movie first and it holds a special place in my heart. It is a great movie in my eyes but not as an adaption of the stage musical. In comparison, it is bad. But if it were a stand alone movie, it would be a great movie. However, the stage production is sooo great and it truly is the work of a genius, which is why I really want to see the two of them watching and analyzing it.
Okay, fine, well, yeah, yeah, the music is really cool BUT, seeing them have fun? That's the glory. It makes me happy to see them having so much fun.
Lin included the Mercer Street detail after getting curious about why it is called that and when it was named that.
The room where it happens is such an interesting moment, character-wise. Hamilton succeeds by becoming more like Burr and Burr realizes that, to get what he wants, he needs to become more like Hamilton.
Also, that tablecloth pull. Perfection.
Mason sure did do the thing
Hamilton actually regarded Jefferson as more of an rival than Burr. The Cabinet Battle songs being between these two is probably because they were the pair who was constantly bickering in most cabinet meetings once the "honeymoon" wore off.
God prophet Caspar was rolling that day
Imagine Casper making a cover for The Room Where It Happens
Omg he would do it amazingly
I’m no expert but the northern states owed a lot of money while va didn’t. I think Hamilton was trying to get the debts paid so he could move forward and get financial systems going with everyone aboard.
How to Win a Tony in Five Minutes, Part Two. Leslie Odom Jr. won the Tony for Best Actor in a Musical.
Casper killed Mortius and Louis Armstrong in one line 💀🌙🎷
Mortius. Your pokerface is phenomenal sometimes! 😂
Please tell me you'll check out the cut out songs as well! There's a longer version of Schuyler Defeated for example! They're pretty top bangers, some are completely new songs some are alternative versions of the one's in the musical
ruclips.net/video/EZkANYGycNU/видео.htmlsi=pVM-CTgpxs4u2zFf
Is a great playlist for them, they don't have all the songs (there is another version of Hurricane out there with a new voice and new lyrics compared to the musical) but I think this is most of them!
I'd love to see this on RUclips as well!!
ruclips.net/video/_yIt2X5PtEs/видео.htmlsi=UPIQCidGztWYh4Hl
Found the alternative hurricane! There is also an animatic for it as well if you'd prefer to watch that, it calls it the workshop version of the song comes up like immediately when you look up "Hurricane off Broadway"
They plan to check out some cut stuff after everything, just remember to try and not spoil the songs/lyrics until they’re released here 💜
6:59 WHY DO YOU KEEP DABBING MORTIUS 😭
Did you hear the Wisdom Saga livestream had to be split up because it got suspended by RUclips in the middle of a song? That’ll be fun for you guys to try and work with
So, Casper, when will you do a Cover of the Prophet?
Thank you for that Thing, Mason c:
If you guys want answers to most of the questions you posed, and have a bit of free time, the Hamilcast podcast is one of the best Hamilton resources out there. In-depth interviews with most of the cast and creatives, lots of behind-the-scenes stuff, they even take you through the entire development of some songs. It’s great stuff
Yep. "Thomas claims" is a very clever and particular wording for those lines. Thomas Jefferson was pretty well-known as a liar, willing to twist everything to make himself look better and everyone else worse.
Yeah, Casper. Aaron Burr was once a Federalist like Hamilton and Philip Schuyler (and other people that will be mentioned later), but he switched to the Democratic-Republican party with Jefferson and Madison to run against Schuyler.
22:13 I got to be, I got to be 🎉🎉🎉
24:12 Casper sounds like that one voice Jay does 😂
The “I can’t breathe. Why’d you send me to the moon” at 24:12 has me dying lolololol
Aaron Burr: FOMO King
Congress, not the President, has the sole power to declare war. This is detailed in the Constitution. Increasingly throughout the 20th century, Congress abdicated their responsibility, ceding power to the Executive branch.
When I play Town of Salem (more Town of Salem 2, lately) when I get the role of Arsonist, my death note is always "Click, boom!"
I always felt the death being a lot less work line was a continuation of the theming of Washington saying living is harder.
I wanna be on the moon where it happens
Jefferson can steal the credit... also in the last song Jefferson saying that hamilton didnt get enough credit for how much credit they game him
5:38 It did end up working for Alexander, because before Hamilton, a lot of people wouldn't know exactly who he was.
another song almost certainly inspired by Lin-Manuel and Chris Jackson watching The West Wing during the run of In the Heights, this one from 20 Hours in America Part 2 - "I've worked here three years and eight months and until you sit in the room all day, you can't comprehend the chaos of the Oval Office."... "I've got to get back in there. That's where it's happening."
This is the second time LMM quotes Sam Seaborn, in fact, with the Schuyler Sisters' "I'm looking for a mind at work" coming from his "Because before I look for anything, I look for a mind at work." from The U.S. Poet Laureate. When Miranda wrote a closing rap during the 65th Tony Awards, he called himself Sam Seaborn, and Tommy Kail Toby Ziegler. (Kail wanted to be another character, Josh Lyman, instead)
And of course, Sam Seaborn was the character who went to D&D camp, to go with all the Natural 20/Natural 1 talk.
The ‘tyranny’ rhyme has always been one of my favourites.
When you watch portions of Scamilton, then come back to this…. You realize how Amazing this production is, all around.
i think the longer version of schyler defeated is worth listening to gives a lot more context.
Banjo note: banjos were also used in early jazz (think 1920s jazz, or even the soundtrack to "Cabaret" taking place in the 1930s). So they're still sticking to the jazzy feel of Act II with that inclusion, but that doesn't discount the Southern references either. I'm dithering. There's so much packed into this musical. #chessnotcheckers
"Hey, they laughed at Louis Armstrong when he said he was gonna go to the moon. Now he is up there, laughing at them."
Blades of Glory, 2007
We can not let casper keep getting away with this, he IS the profet
"i am the prophet with the answer you seek" ~casper
My goodness, you two are a fantastic team!
23:55 It's moments like this that make me wanna watch you two. Mortius just straight losing it cuz of Casper's antics.😂
Claps for the editor 👏👏👏
The *INSIGHTS* that Casper has are phenomenal