Peter Cetera | Leaving Chicago Documentary - Joining Chicago, Going solo, Song writing,
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Peter Cetera is best known for being a lead vocalist and the bassist of the rock band Chicago from 1967 until his departure in 1985, before launching a successful solo career.
As a solo artist, Cetera has scored six Top 40 singles, including two that reached number one on Billboard's Hot 100 chart in 1986, "Glory of Love" and "The Next Time I Fall". "Glory of Love", the theme song from the film The Karate Kid Part II (1986), was co-written by Cetera, David Foster, and Diane Nini, and was nominated for both an Academy Award and a Golden Globe Award for best original song from a motion picture in 1987.
I've met Peter Cetera, and he is a very nice, quiet, humble man.
Awesome!!!
That's because the former band members were jealous of Cetera. The voice, the looks and he wrote songs that had big public approval . Nuff said 😮😮😮😮😮 @carolinewoodward1016
@carolinewoodward1016 I agree with you Caroline about Chicago making bad choices since firing Dacus but thats not on Cetera at all. Remember (1) When Cetera made his very first solo album?? He intended to leave Chicago but the record company Warner Reprise refused to promote his album 👉 PETER CETERA just t to keep him in Chicago (2) It was Dan Seraphine who actually brought in David Foster and it was newcomer Bill Champlin who warned Seraphine that Foster would throw out the bands material and even bring in other musicians to get the sound he was pleased with. None of this is really on Cetera. Also, Ironically, Cetera as a soloist who then had two number one songs 🎵 (GLORY OF LOVE and NEXT TIME I FALL was still getting no promotion even AFTER just having two number one songs and yep; they were STILL trying to get Cetera to rejoin Chicago . That wasn't on Cetera, either . He was very wise to simply say NO. Cetera proved that though CHICAGO was a big financial machine for all parties involved. His declining to return proved even he knew money wasn't everything. That's why I supported him over the band to this day. Plus Foster did work with the other singers Champlin and Lamm especially on Chicago 17 -18 (also Scheff ) Foster was also involved a bit with Chicago 21 (1991)
@carolinewoodward1016 Mickey Thomas and Richard Page( MR.MISTER) were never really considered seriously as a replacement for Peter Cetera and Robert Lamm was the one who cleared that up. Richard who background vocalled on TOTOs album ISOLATION was asked to replace Bobby Kimball but he turned that down. Mickey Thomas actually sounded more similar to Kimball than the replacements TOTO had ironically was NEVER asked by TOTO to sing for them. Bobby Kimball and Mickey Thomas are extremely close friends and they sang a duet on Kimballs solo album ALL I EVER NEEDED in a song 🎵 called CHRISTINE . My sister in law with the same name CHRISTINE played that song 🎵 to me on a CD . She knew I was a huge fan of Kimball, and she became a fan too. Foster has also written songs with TOTO but he never produced their albums. All the other information you gave me , yep, I already knew about it but like it or not Foster saved Chicago's career. They couldn't do it themselves and they were in no position to argue. They should go on and retire like Foreigner will soon be doing.
@carolinewoodward1016 The reason a lot the songs 🎵 aren't as good as the earlier era, is because though HARD HABIT TO BREAK was NOT written by any band members (even with Cetera in the band) Yes , Cetera wrote the HITS on 16-17 except the tune aforementioned but all the hit songs 🎵 POST-CETERA were written by Non band members except WHAT KIND OF MAN WOULD I BE which is By Scheff and the late Bobby Caldwell who wrote the NEXT TIME I FALL for Cetera years before. Also replacement singers automatically take every band in a different direction in style and sound. See I cannot hear Cetera in my mind singing WILL YOU STILL LOVE ME, I can't whatsoever but the production of the song is set up to make Scheff sound close to Cetera as possible. It's all about money and maintaining the style. But either way Chicago will never overcome the REAL ESS" and success they had up till 1984. It just won't happen. It's all about touring and 💰 💰. Mickey Thomas is a non issue . Chicago was already pissed about Cetera becoming the "star" of the band, yep, all about the "one guy". Point is Mickey never had a chance. They never considered him and from what you said about him. Mickey would've been kicked out faster than Donnie Dacus and he lasted TWO Albums.
Anyone who talks badly about Peter Cetera is green with jealousy....all the best in their fields are envied for their talents. Peter is at the very top of the list for his performing, singing and writing 🎉
He also played awesome bass guitar!!
Peter Cetera supercedes the great talent of Frank Sinatra.....his talents far surpass this talent as he is a monumental song writer and bass guitar player...his gifts are larger than life
....he worked hard on his expertise and skill and deserves every accolade he has been given! He won my heart with his ballads of emotion❤
If there is any criticism...right back at their inadequacies! He's the Inspiration in my book 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Chicago's Loss!!!!
They never sounded right after Peter's loss!😊
Peter Cetera is the greatest musician in my life!
One of the Greats with and without Chicago.
Peter Cetera WAS the Voice of Chicago
It was Terry Kath
Peter, Terry and Robert WERE... the voices of Chicago. 😉😉😎😎🍻🍻 But Peter was one of the important ones for sure.
@@jean-philippeperetti8463 Definitely True 👍👍👍
chicago was pointless without him but cetera solo career had great song last place god made gary osborne richardkerr
Terry and Peter, what a duo
When Terry and Pete left Chicago, there went its heart and soul, leaving the dick (Jimmy) intact.
PETER CETERA IS ONE OF THE SMOOOOOTHEST BROTHAS TO EVER BLOW A MUSICAL NOTE IN THE ATMOSPHERE. ALL THE LADIEES FELL FOR HIS BALLADS BECAUSE HE KNEW HOW TO MOVE THE ❤️, MIND AND SOUL!!! BROTHA WAS EXCEPTIONALLY GIFTED AND "NICE" WITH THE VOCALS.
Could not agree more, thanks for watching Frederick!
True!!!
That voice, those notes, one of the Smoothest Brothas in the business. Sad he got a raw deal from his band
LOVE YOU PETER! ❤❤ .. still listening in 2024 and forever
When I hear those old songs the tears just well up..memories of my youth
The best male singer in the 70s 80s and today
Peter Cetera- I love you. Your voice has defined so many precious moments in my life.
Cetera was already their lead singer but when he started writing all their hits, he became the star and didn't need Chicago anymore.
This is great! Just love Peter Cetera and he sounds like a very humble and kind person.
I have great respect for PC. So in awe that I was terrified to speak to him. No one can compare to him, in so many ways. I'll never forget the day I found out he went solo. It hurt but it turned out to be best for him. Oh, and as a bassist ... he was amazing. I tried to learn the bass, tried to play like Cetera, but my mentor said NOBODY can play the way he does. Yes, Peter is a all good.
Totally love him even his eighties music😊
Grew up listening to Chicago and Peter... Their music just hits different. It's been YEARS since I've listened to Peter and this week, out of nowhere, I started singing Wild Ways! Lol. Loved PCs solo albums!
No one.... No one can top Peter Cetera 's talent....he is the Frank Sinatra (even moreso beyond) of our era❤
Chicago made a huge mistake letting Peter leave. He’s the heart of the group.
Scheff was an adequate replacement, but five yrs after Cetera left, Chicago quit having hit songs. Chicago band members just couldn't write hit songs anymore.
I agree. Specially since they already lost the main lead singer which was Terry calf. Actually, he and Peter shared singing duties. And if I'm correct, Robert Lamb the keyboard player was a lead singer too. I might have to watch behind the music all over again. I have to say Jason Chef, and Bill Champlin is great but there's no one like Peter. In fact, Peter was one of my favorite guys in Chicago and still is. I wish he got back with them just one time and one time only. But I guess there's no looking back for Peter. Actually, he is retired. It's just like Steve Perry with journey. Well, similar stories or almost the same.
@@lamarravery4094 Chicago was going to quit having hit songs anyway. People in their 50s weren't played on contemporary hit radio.
@mikestevenson576 they peaked with Twenty 1
Peter is the GOAT !!!
Thanks for supporting the channel!
WHY CAN'T WE SEE MORE PETER? DAMN HE'S KEPT HIS MYSTIQUE. GIVE US MORE INTERVIEWS PETER. YOU'VE EARNED IT.
I liked his 60s @ 70s Chicago Era..
Not crazy about the 80s stuff myself.
Saying that...
One of the best singer , Base players ever ! One of the best rhythm sections that could do rock , jazz blues , Him and Terry on guitar , Robert on piano , and Danny on drums... very underrated. Listen to Chicago 5 . 1972
Chicago wouldn't have been any good without Peter Cetera❤
@@karenpristera6944 they wouldn’t have been on the radio after 1975 without him, that’s for sure!
I like Chicago when Peter and Terry Kath were there
If only Time could Stand Still it would always be 25 or 6 to 4!
I love Chicago and I love Peter Cetera and I think it was very sad he felt like he had to leave, especially when Robert Lamm does solo albums of his own.
Take heart Peter. Chicago just did “You’re the Inspiration” at the Macy Thanksgiving Parade. They still are irrelevant without your contribution.
Love this presentation of PC!Best I’ve ever seen🫶🏾
I must say here that I love Peter Cetera and what he has done. I'm 64 years old born and raised in Chicago. Chicago was one of my favorite groups as a child, right up there with EWF. I wrote a song for Peter that I hope he will enjoy and miraculously record his vocal on.
The last few minutes were very informative. Thanks!
Peter Cetera was the voice of Chicago. His voice is so recognizable and amazing. This is the first time I have heard his side of the break away from Chicago. I remember very well the days of lead singers doing solo recordings and here is where I have a problem with what happened with Peter and Chicago. For many years Robert L, Jimmy P and others were writing material and make everyone rich. Then when Peter wrote a few hits he wanted it all for himself. Greed does strange things to people.
I do believe he had help with that decision, David Foster!
Are you Kidding?
He was ONE of the THREE voices of Chicago.
@@scapegoat762 Those of Us who are Fans of Chicago, know that! I'm sure no slight was meant by that comment!
pc is the voice of chicago PERIOD!!!
@@juliusbanal8206 Hahahaha....OK. PERIOD!!!
His voice was imitated but never equaled
He's the original inspiration🎉
I think Peter was right the first time wanting to disband Chicago after Terry died. It just was never right after that.
Great video!!!
Thank you!!
Before he joined the band in 1967, all the vocals were split between Robert Lamm and Terry Kath, but the horn section kept drowning out their voices because neither one of them could sing high enough to be heard over them.
As Cetera's career within Chicago had blossomed, he too found his sudden fame to have a side effect. In the group's later years, he demanded more creative control for the band, which led the group to eventually fire their original manager Jimmy Guercio in 1977. Guitarist/singer Terry Kath's sudden death not long afterward also led to Cetera being given more control; it culminated after the group left CBS Records for Warner Bros. Records and producer David Foster. Cetera, in retrospect, also demanded he be allowed to release solo albums and to work with other artists during his time while retaining his membership with Chicago (same as how Phil Collins had released his own solo albums and worked with other artists while he was still officially a member of Genesis); this viewpoint was also shared by longtime drummer Danny Seraphine, but the rest of the band disagreed with Cetera's motive, which eventually led Cetera to leave the band after the end of the Chicago 17 tour in 1985.
Thanks for the insight @ClassicTVMan1981X
Thanks for this, I love his music so much❤❤❤❤, but did not know the history of why he left😢, as I was born in the 80s. Amazing voice and talent I'm still listening to in 2024❤❤❤❤
Chicago 18 19 and 21 would be different if Peter Stayed
@@aarontrainor9918 Indeed, and maybe they would have sold better?
@@ClassicTVMan1981X Seraphine needed one more album
So he left Chicago, its not the end of the world, additionally there's the library and music catalogue that we can always enjoy.
I love Peter Cetera but Terry Kath was the heart and soul of Chicago.
Chicago has gone through hard times but has survived, Jason Scheff did amazing, and till this day we still enjoy this great musicians,Chicago is not just Peter Cetera
It is impossible to replace or fill PC shoes, fortunately, JS brought his own. I love both, wish Jason could have sung more of the Cetera leads in his key. But oh well.
My Feeling Is That Peter Never Really Enjoyed The Type Of Music & Instrumentation That Made The Chicago Sound...It Seems He May Have Always Seen Himself As A Solo Vocalist "Trapped" Within A Band He Didn't Wan't To Be In! No Matter How Good They Were Or How Successfully - Peter Always Seemed Miscontented! Maybe The Band Collectively Didn't Want Peter To Do A Solo Albumn Because They Knew He'd Eventually Leave & Would Change Their Sound & That Happened! But I Have Always LOVED The Unique Sound If The Original Members Of Chicago, & Their Longtime Success Proved I Wasn't Alone! Peters' Solo Ballads Were Beautiful But People Still Wanted To Hear Him With His Band! He Was So Unhappy Though, It's Surely For The Best He Went His Own Way....But He Took A Big Piece Of Chicago Away With Him...🙁
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I prefer him as a solo artist. Even though he may have not been as popular he made alot of good solo albums .
Peter Cetera leaving Chicago was effectively the end of Chicago. Losing Terry Kath was the initial big blow. Ever since then... Chicago has been kind of like a fancy tribute band. The instrumentals have been great over the years... but the vocals have lacked big-time. Jason Scheff is a great singer... but he was forced to try and emulate Peter. Not easy... nor healthy vocally. Now the vocals are a joke. The current high tenor acts, looks, and sounds like a guest singer. It's strange.
Peter Cetera to me always had the Sting stigma attached to him. Being stuck in a band environment he didn’t want to be in, but instead wanted solo stardom. Other then that, he was the voice of that band, and the other members were clearly jealous of his uprising in terms of looks, voice, and stage presence.
Chicago was never the same after Terry Kath went over the rainbow. The tripod between Cetera, Kath and Lamm kept the group in balance between rock, jam and with a few balads mixed in. Terry's death shifted that and ruined the band for me. I remember Chicago Transit Authority and not the soft pop band they became.
Yes.
It's like The Beatles. I remember Hard Day's Night. What was that Let It Be crap?
Not been Negitive towards Pete Cetera, I admire a great Musician and a person. But his solo work didn't really take off that well, ok he had No.1 hit with Glory of love from the Soundtrack of glory of love. He did write an Itro for Baywatch for the first season called save me. I hope someday they get act together and he reunites with Chicago.
He might not want to come back at this point.
@@kennethrussell1158, look at the Everly brothers . They had they're arguments, but they got actogether they reunion for a tour.
If they couldn't put aside their differences for the rock hall induction, they'll never get back together.
@@linesinthesand97 👍👍
That's really not very accurate. Peter's SOLO WORK actually eclipsed Chicago for a while. So much that people actually thought one of his songs was CHICAGO. He had a very successful solo career, and did extensive touring until his recent retirement.
Need more info on why Peter quit the band.
Lots of reasons. He didn't want to tour as much, and wanted more time for a solo career. He said he never felt part of the band. He said he never liked jazz or blues. And he wanted recognition. He felt his name wasn't as recognizable as his voice, and wanted to see how he could do.
I do recall he was tired of Chicago’s hectic Schedule, and that he wanted to go solo, but Chicago wouldn’t let him do that, so that’s when Peter decided to leave Chicago and go Solo!!!
His band mates got a little jealous of him for writing the hit tunes. And the other things mentioned. He wanted more credit for all the work he did on an album and seeing how his songs were climbing up the charts from the 17 album, it was time to go for it.
@@lamarravery4094 True!!!!
Eddy Newton, you should watch Peter Cetera's sit down interview with Ernie Menous. It's on RUclips and hear from the man himself on why he was basically "emotionally run " out of the band. All your questions will be answered. Some of Cetera speaking on this clip is that very interview.
Drank beer’s with mr. Joel 😝
There was never any doubt about the contribution that Peter made to Chicago/CTA. The band's decline was because they couldn't compete in the era of 80's cheese music. What I don't understand is Peter blowing them off for the RRHOF induction. He should have been there along with all the surviving members. Posting his refusal on his website seemed beneath him, but that is what he did. He also didn't participate in the documentary that was made about the band (Now and Forever). What is going on?
It kinda reminds me of the Doobies situation. Pro Tom or Michael? the band was different but far from awful. I mean listen to the filth and one note junk we have now!
Not being able to compete with 80’ cheese music? Their 80’s comeback made them more popular than ever. The album 17 sold several million copies alone - right before Cetera left.
Robert Lamm said at the time that he was joining them to perform at the RRHOF, they (Chicago or someone in the group maybe) didn't want to bring notes down or something for PC's vocals after he'd requested they do so, so he cancelled. I'm ok with him not coming back to the band, people really need to get past that. But he could have done RRHOF, for the fans,. For all those people who voted Chicago in. 🤷🏾
I have to echo the sentiments here. Really sad that Peter declined to join the RRHOF induction. I agree that he could have done it out of gratitude to the fans. Although it's his choice, and I'm in the dark on the reasoning, still he seems like a dad who skipped his own daughter's wedding because he's so bitter towards his ex-wife.
@@AstralPixieGreat analogy; good way of describing what happened. It was a shame thst none of c the parts could work things out for Pete's his appearance on the RRHOF, after so many years. A lot of bad pride from all those involved.
Above all, Peter was the one who missed it...and fans are the ones that lost more, and will lament this forever.😞
Having lived the reality along I am sure many others here, I became a fan in the early 80’s. Most fans know that the band was splintering after Chicago XI. Then Terry died and they all but collapsed. They rallied but lacked the creative center Terry represented thus David Foster came in. The alter in sound was as much about the times as it was David Foster thus the commercial success. I agree though they would have been more successful collectively if they stayed together but the philosophical differences in the music probably would have made it impossible. The bottom line is that Chicagos post Cetera success of new material was still David Foster and the “Cetera” sound and launched the career of Jason Scheff would may have stayed in obscurity. Peter had different priorities as related regarding touring and the sound that would keep the band on top. He was not part of the CNN crockumentary and awards for obvious reasons.
David foster came in because that's what the label wanted. Columbia did the same thing to Earth Wind and Fire. They brought in David Foster, Bill Champlin (who later joined Chicago) and others to create cross over magic. Quite frankly, I'm a purist and in the same way as Chicago was it's best in the early years, most of the cross-over fans of EWF, are essentially unaware of the platinum albums they released the first 7 years of their existence (Last Days and Time, Head to the Sky, Open Our Eyes, among others). The move pushed EWF into super stardom (even as i complained about their new sound).
Not only did Terry die in '78, but they also moved on from James Guercio. What left with him was his Blood Sweat and Tears jazzy/soul/rock influence. They changed labels to Warner Bros, and the record company leaned heavily into moving them forward with David Foster, and the players, writers and producers associated with Toto. Frankly, it was du jour for superstardom in the record industry. Toto also worked with Michael Jackson and the Jacksons as well, a requirement of Sony.
Purists won't agree with it, but those efforts extended in a big way Chicago's continued dominance even as music was changing.
@@fostermac7170 No matter how David Foster came in the music had to change and evolve with the times and the band as it existed was not willing to do so. Whether that meant commercial success or not speaks to “purists” is more of a reflection of the bands complicit nature in evolution for that commercial success they wanted. They “purists” of the band made a choice as the old way would not have put gas in the van or food on the table.
@@jabez999 Great point. Fans just have to understand that the music business is just that_____a business.
When he replaced the hornsection to electric violins, it became rubbish...
"...Before launching a successful solo career." LOL, he was a two-hit wonder solo artist. Did you put any thought into this?
He had about 5 hits, but many of his songs should've been hits.
And an Oscar nomination.....
As far as I'm concerned he was successful. As he said he did it his way. And MILLIONS of admirers even 50 years after he began
@@GeecheeLionsJourney Even Peter said that his solo career was not as successful as it should have been, so whatever.
How many hits do most artists have in their 40s?
ballad bs. I guess the chicks dig it. but😴
Ballad songs turned to be some of Chicago's most memorable songs and biggest hit$. Funny how the current can't not play Peter's songs bc thats what the audience wants to hear.
LOL, who cares about half the population.
I was a huge fan of Chicago since ‘72 but never focused on him.He was never integral to the true Chicago sound.True to my instincts he was part of their decline and just plain boring
Way off. His voice was essential to Chicago’s success. Imagine 25 or 6 to 4 or Feeling Stronger Every Day sung by Terry or Robert
his solo stuff is soooo schmaltzy and boring
Boring enough that Chicago needs to play Peter's songs very night for a paycheck. 😅
jealous...and u??? u have nothin..hahaa
One Good Woman is neither of those things to me.
His stuff after Terry Kath was plain awful
Although Kath was a very gifted musician and writer Peter Cetera and David Foster took the band to another level. And Cetera had 2 #1 hits after leaving the band. Not sure if I would agree that his music was awful. Thanks for watching the video and sharing your opinion.
ran him out emotionally.... ?? Really? He led the group down the path of less guitar and more sap.... get rid of the brass and become the leader . Pete got to play it however he wanted to play it.. He brought in foster who ruined the band sound and had session players do the music while the band played only hits on tour.... No more experimmentation... no more deep cuts... play the hits so Pete can look and sound as good as possible..
Danny brought in Foster
@@janicecrossman6198 yes, but who did he side with? He was in Petes corner and made it very difficult to make a contribution form Pankow or Lamm... Foster went along with Pete to get rid of the horns... destroying what made Chicago the band it was...
. AND where was Lamm? Out on his @ss high as a kite. Chicago hadn't had a hit in ages. Foster & Peter $aved their sorry asses to this very day!
@@RG-hf4et yes, Lamm was affected by Terry's death and hadnt had a hit in ages? yeah I guess if that is how you judge music... in terms of commerce instead of art... I wont go into the problem of the corporations realizing they could make more money with shit music by giving the people crap to choose from and to stop promoting 'dinosaur' rock... and so we have the music of today... where style rules over substance and quantity over quality...
@@drmorqWarrenProject All the band members were affected by Terry's death, dude. I judge music on how it sounds not by it's commercial success. Yet Peter's songs were a commercial success, no thanks to the rest of the band & the band is still collecting off of Peter's talent to this very day.
Never cared. Chicago's first album without him (18) is my favourite so who knows. He's a great musician but I never saw him bigger than the band itself.
I'm a big Cetera fan, but you've got a point 18 was a very good album. Thanks for supporting the channel.