Todd White: "Just Trust Me and My Famous Friends" Charismatic Conditioning

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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Комментарии • 515

  • @christopherruthart7792
    @christopherruthart7792 4 года назад +84

    Todd White - You don’t love God if you call false teachers and charlatans out.
    This man needs to repent...

    • @timothyhollins6010
      @timothyhollins6010 4 года назад +3

      Christopher Ruthart Amen.

    • @mordechaijones4669
      @mordechaijones4669 4 года назад +3

      He needs to get saved.

    • @brettmelancon1897
      @brettmelancon1897 4 года назад +5

      If he calls them out and someone sees it and avoids the false teacher, than he has done a good service. Dont hate the false prophet, but rather expose them!

  • @juliapom9115
    @juliapom9115 4 года назад +106

    We do not hate the 'charlatan' Todd, dear, we hate what they do and we bring into the light that which they prefer to do in the darkness.

    • @FlawlesZMa
      @FlawlesZMa 4 года назад +9

      yes exactly sister!

    • @laurac.8574
      @laurac.8574 4 года назад +3

      Right on! The Bereans didn't hate Paul when they examined his teachings, they loved God and the truth, and were commended for it. Imagine what the church would be if we all did that!

    • @msf2126
      @msf2126 4 года назад +5

      Well said

    • @patrickshea1972
      @patrickshea1972 4 года назад +5

      Amen

    • @CrystalJ7
      @CrystalJ7 4 года назад +2

      Julia!! how's things? good to see you! bless you! and amen! xxxx

  • @mitziturpin2441
    @mitziturpin2441 4 года назад +39

    Steven Kozar, thank you for this! My own (former) pastor used these exact tactics against me when I persisted in calling out false teachers whose materials were welcomed at that church, namely Beth Moore's materials. I can see now that his intent was to intimidate me. Over two years, at various times I politely pointed out how her teachings are unbiblical, and looking back I realize that he never addressed any of my specific objections regarding Beth Moore, but instead relied 100% on saying that various famous teachers didn't have a problem with her, so therefore my objections are irrelevant. So very glad that we are no longer in that church.

    • @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
      @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch  4 года назад +3

      Mitzi Turpin God bless you, Mitzi! Thanks for your thoughts.

    • @CrystalJ7
      @CrystalJ7 4 года назад +4

      similar for me Mitzi. It's horrible not to be heard...I left my church last year after being there for 22 years. Makes me so sad, especially for the sheep who remain....and how they are being 'fed'. bless you sister....pray you are in a church now where these things really matter and honour God. :-)

  • @dasarius
    @dasarius 4 года назад +84

    "We've seen midgets grow!" ROFL

    • @janeteaton3240
      @janeteaton3240 4 года назад +4

      Darren Lawrence Right !! Made me spit

    • @Sunshine-hx6hq
      @Sunshine-hx6hq 4 года назад +2

      😂😂😂

    • @louettesommers8594
      @louettesommers8594 4 года назад +7

      Darren Lawrence I’m sure little people would be appalled ! He’s saying that there’s something wrong with them. What a liar.

    • @nataliegill4656
      @nataliegill4656 4 года назад +6

      Darren Lawrence yeah when he said that I cringed

    • @JSizzle179
      @JSizzle179 4 года назад +2

      Natalie Gill 😂🤣

  • @gabymeyer8003
    @gabymeyer8003 4 года назад +133

    I guess Todd, Benny and pals would accuse Peter, John, Jude, Paul - and, oh, Jesus - of being haters against false teachers.

    • @davidthedreamer0
      @davidthedreamer0 4 года назад +4

      Yeah. Just take something they said out of context and turn the whole plot against those haters.

    • @mrsh2610
      @mrsh2610 4 года назад +1

      😂

    • @gertrudebellemsieh7539
      @gertrudebellemsieh7539 4 года назад +3

      Wow, that's profound, scary and true all at the same time. But, your comment is much needed.

    • @marcstrusa
      @marcstrusa 4 года назад +4

      I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. 5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
      II Timothy 4

    • @marcstrusa
      @marcstrusa 4 года назад +2

      @Lauren Maxwell Amen. May the Lord Jesus Christ gives us discernment and may He bring people together to build the assembly as He wills. Amen

  • @vivianquinones9453
    @vivianquinones9453 4 года назад +58

    Great video. Keep on warning the flock and calling out false teachers.

  • @ronnydee2
    @ronnydee2 4 года назад +36

    I am angry too brother. I’ve been exposing these guys since the 80’s but people don’t want to hear it discernment has gone out the window.

  • @kingsoren2010
    @kingsoren2010 4 года назад +13

    6:25 "Be careful if you raise your voice against a man of God even if he is EVlL" ?? Since when is an evil man a man of God??

  • @evacharles498
    @evacharles498 4 года назад +29

    But ultimately it isn’t us who brings people to Christ, it is God. We are responsible for sharing the Gospel as people can’t believe without hearing the Word. We are not responsible for their salvation.

  • @icequeen1439
    @icequeen1439 4 года назад +7

    “We seen midgets grow” 🗣I DONT MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!
    Ummmm ok👀😂😂😂

  • @themostokperson
    @themostokperson 4 года назад +35

    So Benny Hinn said to not go against a man of God even if he's wicked?
    How does that work? How can one be a man of God and be wicked at the same time?

    • @LTD-7
      @LTD-7 4 года назад +5

      Because Benny wanted to include himself!!! 😆

    • @JamesEverhart-jy1ri
      @JamesEverhart-jy1ri 3 месяца назад

      That's a good question

  • @nemesisn4sir242
    @nemesisn4sir242 4 года назад +6

    Using the monty python "ministry of silly walks" skit was genius, had me rollin'!

  • @habituateverity
    @habituateverity 4 года назад +21

    Well done! You nailed it brother! I grew up in this Charismatic manipulation. I went to Oral Roberts University, ground zero. I left this mess a long time ago but watching here how blatant the control tactics are sickens me. It is like a personality cult and you cannot see clearly while still in it. My parents are still involved and I am grieved by it.

    • @juliesmock7614
      @juliesmock7614 4 года назад +2

      Ground zero.. 😂😂😂😂

    • @teresafarrell6457
      @teresafarrell6457 3 года назад +1

      I pray your folks will come closer to our Lord and SEE what they're in. I understand. God bless you.

    • @rwalden87
      @rwalden87 11 месяцев назад +2

      My mom and family are still into this stuff too. The lord has been gracious to me and revealed the truth about this kind of teaching.

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 9 месяцев назад

      @@rwalden87 i managed to convince my little brother out of this nonsense, the rest of them are still stuck in that, me and my little brother left that nonsense

  • @janeteaton3240
    @janeteaton3240 4 года назад +37

    Yes, I can see and hear their false teaching, I do read my Bible. These charlatans need to be called out . Stop defending these false teachers ! Read your Bible and test the spirits .. don’t be afraid to call out the false, that is real love .

    • @lynettedevries1824
      @lynettedevries1824 4 года назад +4

      There is a RUclips channel called THE PASTOR'S CHRONICLES that brought out a 6 part video series just recently titled IS KANYE WEST REALLY A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN? Check out the first one sister. If I haven't replied to you before there is a good video called THE MOCKING SPIRIT INVADING THE CHURCH by the channel JEREMIAH COHEN. It came out around 8 months ago. The video shows clips how the Kundalini spirit came into the church some 20 years ago up to the present time including an interview that escaped with God's help. Bless you.

    • @janeteaton3240
      @janeteaton3240 4 года назад

      lynette devries Thanks, I’ll check it out

  • @rocketmanshawn
    @rocketmanshawn 4 года назад +7

    I've seen many Todd White clips and have even seen him live once...he never opened a bible. He just goes on and on and on with personal stories.

  • @allensagalla1579
    @allensagalla1579 4 года назад +12

    Please continue to upload these kinds of videos. These help us to know more about these modern-day false teachers. Truly, you are contending for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.

  • @TL-ii4tb
    @TL-ii4tb 4 года назад +16

    Amen to this video. My wife and I got caught up in Todd W and this kind of teaching for a few years and the Lord graciously showed me how wrong it is. My wife got involved in heresy teaching 12 yrs or so ago and its messing with her mind still today. The sad truth is that discernment is going out the window as we Christians are called to test every spirit and compare everything we see and hear to Scripture. Brothers stand firm in Christ and hold fast to what is good for this world is getting more deceitful.

    • @bonniemoerdyk9809
      @bonniemoerdyk9809 4 года назад

      T L ...Amen! Does your wife like to watch video's of good apologists like Steven Kozar above? or What shall I Cry? or Fighting for the Faith? These helped me immensely!!!

    • @juliesmock7614
      @juliesmock7614 4 года назад

      Todd White came to the Vineyard Church that I was going to and I was not impressed at all. I think my ex- husband was more on the money speaking the word while praying for me and having some very accurate Revelations from God during prayer then Todd White ever has when he has prophesied in general with the public. The Vineyard Church although well-intentioned, has these weirdos at their conferences. At least to their credit and they don't charge an exorbitant amount of money. I'm no longer attending any church but will never give up my faith in Jesus

  • @KatG23
    @KatG23 4 года назад +16

    I’m a new subscriber, heard about your channel through Fighting for the Faith. Thanks for putting these videos together! Such great information.

  • @vanessaloy1049
    @vanessaloy1049 4 года назад +33

    "We've seen midgets grow..."

    • @simeon2851
      @simeon2851 4 года назад +2

      Mandarabashatayahblahblah!
      Touch not the annointed..!
      :-;

    • @marcstrusa
      @marcstrusa 4 года назад +1

      I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with [a]great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. 5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
      II Timothy 4

    • @amelian9677
      @amelian9677 4 года назад

      My all time favorite Tilton quote 😅

    • @schadracmiakizabi9700
      @schadracmiakizabi9700 4 года назад

      "I don't make this stuff up!" 😂😂😂

    • @juliesmock7614
      @juliesmock7614 4 года назад

      Maybe they need to go to the cast of little people and start praying

  • @laurac.8574
    @laurac.8574 3 года назад +4

    "Rebuke a wise man and he will love you." Todd and his buddies aren't too wise, apparently.

  • @SavedByGrace52
    @SavedByGrace52 4 года назад +9

    Great structured video. I've seen many calling out false teachers and comparing their teaching to scripture but none that show this type of video evidence. Good work. God bless

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 Год назад +1

      As he said at the very end...check out "Fighting for the Faith" (Pastpr Chris Roseborough). He does a lot of false teachers in a slightly different format. Steve and Pastor Roseborough both do a very good job. Also check out Dr. Jordan Cooper ("justandsinner") who belongs to the same denomination as Pastor Chris, and "Bryan Wolfmueller".

  • @rolladallas9178
    @rolladallas9178 4 года назад +18

    Excellent information Steve....this is exactly what's going on...Bulls-eye.

    • @richarddevoe9990
      @richarddevoe9990 4 года назад +1

      I agree, this is a good informative video.

  • @samuelflores1419
    @samuelflores1419 4 года назад +3

    Bash = discerning. We as people of Truth must always look for Truth! Thank you brother.

  • @bezelT3
    @bezelT3 4 года назад +24

    Great job SK! May the eyes of those God is calling to himself be opened by this. If only you could paint.

  • @IBLV2DOU
    @IBLV2DOU 3 года назад +2

    It is never wrong to question theology, and seek truth in scriptures. Great video editing, many need to see this.

  • @nataliegill4656
    @nataliegill4656 4 года назад +14

    Am I the only one who finds these people kind of .... creepy? Idk I just feel so disgusted and nauseated watching these guys. I can’t believe I once thought Todd White actually had something
    *Also the edits make this easier to watch and make me chuckle*

    • @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
      @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch  4 года назад +5

      After watching these clowns over and over again for hours and hours, I can say, yes, it gets really creepy! Glad you like the humor, too; that's the part that I do to lighten up an otherwise very dark topic.

    • @nataliegill4656
      @nataliegill4656 4 года назад +4

      Steven Kozar it is incredibly dark. And people who have gotten sucked into these people’s lies ask why these videos are up to bash people and it’s not to attack them; *its to expose their lies and set them free*. I’m glad I found videos like this because one of my friends suggested Todd White to me and I started watching but I felt odd about some of the things he said. Now I know why. And yes the humor helped a lot lol

  • @DJMARTIN73
    @DJMARTIN73 4 года назад +14

    Tilton: We've seen midgets grow
    Midget: I can do all things through Christ. I'm going for the NBA!
    😑

  • @debbee7855
    @debbee7855 4 года назад +15

    Great video. Keep them coming. The Lord God is uncovering this creeps. I was taken in their snare

    • @kiyiracampbell2932
      @kiyiracampbell2932 4 года назад

      Me too Debbie Burton We have to try to discern as Christians in this end time. Let us ask Jesus to help us to discern the lie from the truth. Lord have mercy on us,help us Lord🙌

  • @louwa9867
    @louwa9867 4 года назад +2

    Excellent work. Every believer should see this. Your knowledge about the abuse and manipulation of these people is God sent.

  • @dannakinnaman7115
    @dannakinnaman7115 4 года назад +11

    Another great video, Mr. Kozar. I laughed...at the Monty Python clip, I cried...at pretty much everything else. Sad. Very sad.

  • @donavanboykin9489
    @donavanboykin9489 2 года назад +2

    “Because sum was about ta happn!”😂😂Broke me up!

  • @drakonis63
    @drakonis63 4 года назад +11

    Wow, Paul must have bashed and hated Peter when he called him out to his face. Galatians 2:11 11 "But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned."
    And yes, why would we say something about Kenneth Copeland who says God created Adam because He wanted to reproduce Himself, was the same as Jesus and Adam was God manifested in the flesh, that Jesus was born again and that God told Ken that he could have done what Jesus did in regards to dying on the cross for the sins of the world if he had the knowledge of the Word of God like Jesus did. Kenneth Copeland is a heretic.

  • @shamrackle3712
    @shamrackle3712 4 года назад +4

    Brother Steven, I have heard you many times on Fighting for the Faith with Chris Roseborough. I am surprised that more people haven't seen this, and hopeful that they will. I am very thankful for your faithful efforts to warn and encourage the Church as well for Chris Roseborough's podcast and that of Issues, Etc. Peace to you.

    • @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
      @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch  4 года назад

      Blessings to you, too!

    • @juliesmock7614
      @juliesmock7614 4 года назад

      I am grateful for his sense of humor. Especially with the first video that I watched which was that so-called jellybelly prophet

    • @juliesmock7614
      @juliesmock7614 4 года назад

      @@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch I may have to watch that one again. When I first started watching it Steven oh, and you said you were going to pop in and out of it to make comments I was thinking about not watching it, but your comments at times were so funny that I may watch it again. I am officially a fan

  • @Kerosenetrewthe
    @Kerosenetrewthe 4 года назад +15

    Tilton, We're gonna see what grow??? Dang ....

  • @chadpayne823
    @chadpayne823 4 года назад +4

    thank u brother stephen for exposing these heritics me and my family was caught up in this movement for years Justin peters costi hinn and u have helped us so much qith the truth !!!!!!!

  • @rolladallas9178
    @rolladallas9178 4 года назад +10

    Uhhh...btw...am I the only one who's noticed that Todd White's head literally has gotten bigger and puffier?
    ...Classic sign of steriod abuse.
    It is...what ...it appears to be.

    • @rolladallas9178
      @rolladallas9178 4 года назад +1

      @@BloodBoughtMinistries Example: Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire

    • @gloriavalentine3849
      @gloriavalentine3849 4 года назад +1

      He looks very unhealthy, I am sure what he sees in the mirror is not what we can see

    • @rolladallas9178
      @rolladallas9178 4 года назад +4

      @@gloriavalentine3849 ...that's the nature of delusion....or, as the Word says, "being given over to delusion'....
      He does not 'see'.
      Perhaps, God will show mercy.

  • @paulettekozar2629
    @paulettekozar2629 4 года назад +2

    Francis Chan says " are you going to attack the different expressions of the body of Christ.." No, not a different Expression, it is a different Gospel. What does Paul say in Galatians 1:9? "If anyone preaches to you any gospel other than the one you received-a curse on him!" How are we supposed to know what another gospel is? It is by learning and knowing what the true Gospel is, Yes, using our mind, and God's Word.

  • @GOLDSMITHEXILE
    @GOLDSMITHEXILE 3 года назад +1

    "All this I have told you so that you will not fall away. They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them." John 16:1-4

  • @clayrsa9494
    @clayrsa9494 4 года назад +2

    when i wasn't a Christian even then i felt these guys are false prophets but nobody listened to me. they said it was the devil distracting me. Now I'm a new born Christian, reading my bible. The bible warned us about these people. If Satan can quote scripture so can hes followers.

  • @MasterRahl221
    @MasterRahl221 3 года назад +1

    This makes me sad. Francis Chan's study on James was incredible and got my wife and I into fostering.

  • @timothyhollins6010
    @timothyhollins6010 4 года назад +4

    Steven. I must honour you for the effort and sincerity with which you present the deception of these most cunning and wicked of men. 5 months ago l left this NAR movement l unwittingly got into as a new Christian. I was actually set free one night after a meeting where the personal prophecy was so fluffy l felt a demonic presence. After 6 years in this movement in Melbourne Australia mainly under the direction of a very proud man by the name of Ben Fitzgerald and a Mother who reads Christian tarot cards. I was shocked to see a level of pride manipulation and sexual predatory ( l worked in child protection for many years so l had open eyes to these types). All the fruits of demons were present. I like you am totally grieved by this . I am currently reading about the reformers Hess Luther Wycliffe etc. It has been of great comfort to know that men have suffered unto death to fight the schemes of Satan and his attacks on the sheep of our precious Lord who shed his blood for us. Please pray for me as l am overcome at times with this. However to be positive l have learnt so much through this about the Lord. He is truly wonderful in character. Jesus said l will build my church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. Bless you !
    PS . I love the monty python walk! You need to laugh at times as it is so heavy.

  • @BrotherWells
    @BrotherWells 4 года назад +2

    We've Seen Midgets Grow would make a great "praise and worship" band name for any church in the WOF/NAR movement

  • @annemariefisher1559
    @annemariefisher1559 4 года назад +3

    I agree with you completely our Bible study just did a whole 10 weeks on crazy love. You need to say anything negative about Francis Chan or Rick Warren would be heresy to others. They I believe would not except the truth of what you are saying. There is so much fall start train going on today we have to be on our toes in the very ready with ears to hear and eyes to see God‘s truth. Stay in the word my friend❣️

  • @balchandshejule7706
    @balchandshejule7706 4 года назад +2

    You are addressing the exact issues. Appreciate your ministry.

  • @Maranatha7557
    @Maranatha7557 3 года назад +2

    Given the recent RZIM scandal, I believe that it is more loving to call out false teachers while they can still repent. If we really hated them, we wouldn’t care if they went to hell.

  • @DWCPodcast
    @DWCPodcast 4 года назад +18

    Fantastic summary of the foolishness that's passed off as "Christian".
    Does anyone else think ToddyDubs has been lifting the same weights Steven Furtick been lifting?

    • @SyntheToonz
      @SyntheToonz 4 года назад +7

      Todd always seems congested which a friend told me is a typical symptom of steroid use. (Or some other kind of drugs.)

    • @ofpersaverance
      @ofpersaverance 4 года назад +1

      I agree

    • @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
      @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch  4 года назад +5

      Puffiness of the face is a direct result of steroid use... but it could be just a coincidence that his face is getting puffy as his muscles get more gigantic.

    • @SyntheToonz
      @SyntheToonz 4 года назад +4

      @@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch this is going to upset his eisogesis of the story of David and Goliath when he makes himself into own literal Goliath.

    • @DWCPodcast
      @DWCPodcast 4 года назад +1

      @@SyntheToonz but honestly, you know he'll be the one to find a way to spin that into something good.

  • @karenc8127
    @karenc8127 4 года назад +10

    When you bring up the prosperity of these false teachers, their followers say they are blessed by God so they must be doing God's will.

    • @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
      @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch  4 года назад +9

      I've been told that too. It's a result of "Charismatic Conditioning."

    • @timothyhollins6010
      @timothyhollins6010 4 года назад +8

      Karen C very sad comment indeed. Paul was shipwrecked beaten and killed so he must not of been doing Gods will. So sad so very sad.

  • @thegreatkate3336
    @thegreatkate3336 3 года назад +2

    Proverbs says “open rebuke is better than secret love”

  • @marthaboer8375
    @marthaboer8375 4 года назад +2

    Thankyou Steven!!
    We appreciate you and all that you are doing to expose the horrific mess in the church today. And when you begin to ask God for the truth as I have done over these past few years, you begin to find out and realise just how long this has been going on in the church. I’m so concerned for our young people! The sadness is overwhelming sometimes! Keep going Steven! And we all need to make sure that we too, are reading a Good Bible and Praying. 1 Peter 5:5-8 📖🙏🏼 and note verse 8 which says “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.”
    Much love to you all ❤️🙏🏼

  • @Chic_N_Greece
    @Chic_N_Greece 4 года назад +6

    I thought only God could see the hearts of man. Hmph. Francis Chan has now cornered that market.

  • @LongforTruth1
    @LongforTruth1 4 года назад +6

    Really great point: 14:44

  • @KD_9494
    @KD_9494 4 года назад +5

    Used to enjoy Francis Chan. He seems to be accepting everyone with their false teaching. I wonder what he teaches now.

  • @daniellesomerfield8799
    @daniellesomerfield8799 4 года назад +2

    Yeah I trusted Bill Johnson until he destroyed my 30 year marriage and divided my family because he was jealous and saw me as a threat. Of course all his 'famous friends' backed him totally without knowing me or my family.

    • @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
      @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch  4 года назад

      Wow-that sounds like a horrible story, Danielle! I'm so sorry! Feel free to email me with more details of your story, or questions. stevenkozar@gmail.com

  • @ronnydee2
    @ronnydee2 4 года назад +4

    Thank you for exposing these charlatans.

  • @HaleyPrettyEyes100
    @HaleyPrettyEyes100 4 года назад +1

    Exposing someone doesn’t mean you hate them. They are JUST like the world, using the word “love” to push their agenda. People do horrible things in the name of so called “love” hun , you can love the devil. Not all “love” is biblical !!
    Smh thank God that he helps us with this, because I know for myself, I can be gullible at times so I truly thank the Lord for discernment & opening all of our eyes here. I love you family 💕💞

  • @patriciamccool5243
    @patriciamccool5243 4 года назад +1

    Saying that men of God who criticize false teaching hate the charlatan is actually saying that they are indeed charlatans. Also, the intent of the criticism is to call the charlatan to repentance!! I personally want to see Todd, Copeland all of them repent!! If God can call me to repent, surely He can call these men to do the same.

  • @kindlykarene
    @kindlykarene 4 года назад +3

    Thank you for this. So tragic to see this so prevalent in the church. And many blind to it.

  • @jessefulton8841
    @jessefulton8841 4 года назад +1

    These people wouldn’t recognize Jesus if he came in unannounced. They would call him a Pharisee too

  • @trevoryoung3529
    @trevoryoung3529 4 года назад +6

    We are in the last days. Idk when christ will came may be a thousands of years from now but the time is near. Keep calling them out!

  • @bonniemoerdyk9809
    @bonniemoerdyk9809 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Brother Steven!.... It frustrates me that these so-called "Men of God", "Pastors", hold such sway over so many people (millions)..... yet I know it is a fulfillment of scripture. Thanks for warning others.... those who are saved, or will be, will listen: those who are condemned already will not. But you will have obeyed God by calling these Wolves out!! God bless you.

  • @igs8698
    @igs8698 4 года назад +3

    Well said Steven! May God bless and strengthen you.

  • @andreah.5962
    @andreah.5962 4 года назад +7

    Slimy. They have no shame, no regret, and they know what they're doing is evil if they won't allow free thinking.

  • @Habackuk24
    @Habackuk24 4 года назад

    "Scoffers do not love reproof;
    to the wise they will not go." (Proverbs 15:12)
    "You shall not hate any of your kindred in your heart. Reprove your neighbor openly so that you do not incur sin because of that person." (Leviticus 19:17)

  • @lisacraft9929
    @lisacraft9929 3 года назад +1

    I finally learned to discern between these jokers and legitimate pastors. Thank God!

  • @jamesba-xd7xf
    @jamesba-xd7xf 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for this video, very informative. there are 3 HUGE problems with the charismatic movement:
    1) they believe in extra biblical revelation in that at any minute they can recieve a "word from God" that can contrdict or replace the bible. example: Jesus said that if a man divorces his wife and marries another he committs adulatery and that if you marry a woman divorced from her husband you committ adulatery. I have a lady friend who is divorced 2 times, she recently told me "God told me to marry this new man I met"..( he was divorced too), later her and the man got married, she said "God told him also that he was to marry me". so with these extra biblical "fresh words from God" those in the charismatic movement can reject everything in the bible and add to the bible.
    2) the charismatic movement is about seeking prosperity, the supernatural, and signs and wonders NOT God.
    3) the charismatic movement has now joined up with the pope and the catholic church in a desire to create a theocracy and rule the world ( NAR, dominionism)

    • @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
      @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch  4 года назад +1

      Good points! It also needs to be said that not all Charismatic believers are guilty of that stuff; they are trying to help expose this really bad false teaching, too. Unfortunately, the Word of Faith/Prosperity and New Apostolic Reformation movements have largely overtaken much of the more biblical-minded Charismatic believers. God help us all to be seekers of truth and doers of the Word.

  • @susanbrocato3058
    @susanbrocato3058 4 года назад +4

    Thank you mr Kozar. Right on

  • @ReneeK777
    @ReneeK777 4 года назад +3

    Steven, thank you so much for making deception so clear. I was wondering if these "teachers" are also misled by the enemy. And if so, how can we as followers of Jesus prevent this from happening to us. When the enemy gives you an experience, and you think it's from the All Mighty God. How can we seperate this?

  • @cabeto821005
    @cabeto821005 4 года назад +3

    According to Francis it is not Ok to criticize a man disqualified for ministry like Mark Driscoll because for all that Francis can tell Mark loves God. This same Fracis Chan will later meet with the pope and conclude that we agree on Justification.
    He has made a living of killing assurance in people in whom He doesn't see the look in their eyes that people have when they are in love with Jesus.
    I mean who does He think He is? God?
    We are to measure a teacher by Francis measure and not by the word of God?
    And yet Francis knows people's hearts by seeing "that look in their eyes" and that is enough for killing them with the law and no gospel at all.
    I agree wih Steven; this should make us angry

    • @juliesmock7614
      @juliesmock7614 4 года назад

      Although I think Francis Chan has changed I remember reading his book crazy love and it really is a great book. I have bought at least 10 copies in the last few years although I haven't bought any for a couple years I still think on the whole it really is a great book

  • @arthurlee8070
    @arthurlee8070 4 года назад +4

    Thank you, Steve for the warning. These NAR & hyper charismatic preachers really have much to answer to the King of kings in the coming days.

  • @juliapom9115
    @juliapom9115 4 года назад +2

    I will continue to use the Word of God to show the world (not 'bash' the world) how people like Rick Warren are adding to and taking away from the Word of God and what God says about that at the end of the Book of Revelation. I am sure that before long we are likely to see Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, John Arnott, Heidi Baker, Stacey Campbell, Todd White, Rick Joyner, Mike Bickle, etc, etc, all 'strutting their lies'!

  • @raymondnoppe5924
    @raymondnoppe5924 Год назад

    About Todd's knee not being healed, doctors would say a sign of a heart attack is that your knees will be in pain. Heart attacks can build up over time with pain in different parts of the body.

  • @mymusic3354
    @mymusic3354 Год назад

    Bob AKA Robert Tilton used to have a TV program similar to programs like "the 700 club" and Benny Hinn's "this is your day" and Kenneth Copeland 's "voice of victory" (I think that's the name of it) where he pressures people for money, and talks about healing people and everything he does whenever he is "preaching" to 1000s of people either in a church or online (actually even hia "preaching" is aired around the world whether TV broadcasts or online on his website and RUclips ) But on one of Bob's episodes he looks into the camera and says "You say Bob I can't send in $100" and he adds "If you can worship God through $5, or $10..." (Right as he says the part about giving $5 you hear the sound of a phone ringing in the background and he kind of smiles and chuckles and continues) "or $10, every apostle Paul (who knew there were more than one) 🤣😂🤣 said the first of each week, lay aside as God has prospered you...." (More phones ringing in the background) "That's why I believe God prospers people...." (Brief pause and he points his finger at the camera and says firmly) "Satan gave me this message..." 🤣😂🤣 (Then he stops and shakes his head and says) "I mean...That's a lie of the Devil, I shouldn't have said that...." Then continues "God gave me this message..." 🤣😂🤣
    He busted himself 🤣😂🤣
    m.ruclips.net/video/1IzpRSKqW2M/видео.html
    www.ruclips.net/video/1IzpRSKqW2M/видео.html

  • @megannicole4927
    @megannicole4927 4 года назад +1

    This is the biggest thing that I've had to butt up against since speaking out against these false teachers. What I've realized very quickly is that we have redefined what love means and what hate means. I do not hate any of these men. But I abhor what they're doing and I will call it out all day every day because people are being lead straight into Hell by these teachings. And while I'm calling them out, I'll be praying and hoping that they repent.

  • @simeon2851
    @simeon2851 4 года назад +3

    What's with the full length pony tail on Todd, and the shorts in the pulpit?

    • @michelletruelove7783
      @michelletruelove7783 3 года назад

      Long hair was prevelant on men in biblical days and ive never seen scripture against shorts while preaching. That being said im no fan of his but thats besides my point

  • @meligarrett9197
    @meligarrett9197 4 года назад +3

    They evidently don’t believe the verse, “Bless those wh curse you,bless and curse not.” If they’re wanting people who disagree with them to get sick or die.😏

  • @davidr2524
    @davidr2524 4 года назад +1

    Excellent Job Steven - It is just so sad that so many sheep are asleep in the Light.

  • @emmyty
    @emmyty 4 года назад +1

    We learned in a theater class in college that contrary to what some actors may think, the "audience" really wants the actor to succeed. I think this psychology also takes place in churches. The flock wants to believe, and can risk giving liars the "benefit of the doubt (discernment)", making excuses for them and never standing up to or questioning what is false.

  • @jaylintz1683
    @jaylintz1683 4 года назад

    He mentions several people within NAR and WOF and says are we going to attack them? ABSOLUTELY. EPHESIANS 5:11

  • @Pickled73
    @Pickled73 Год назад

    I think as a Wisconsin resident, you are aware that those of us who live in the Milwaukee metro area believe no good thing can come out of Madison however, you clearly disapprove that. Thank you for your witty but biblical wisdom.

  • @italianstallion4662
    @italianstallion4662 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing this. God bless you

  • @childofgod700
    @childofgod700 4 года назад

    Please don't mess up prosperity preachers with those, who teach us because they have love of God towards us. I make a difference according to this 2 points: if somebody leads for themselves, ( it's selfish. I don't listen them at all ) OR lead TO JESUS, inspiring us to pray and read the Bible.
    Do that ( pray; read the Bible ) than the truth will make you free, -you will concentrate to Jesus .
    God bless you brother! 💗

  • @aaron3009
    @aaron3009 4 года назад +1

    Todd's next story, I remember praying with a classmate in high school who was 5ft 8 and the next time I saw him at our class reunion he was 6 feet tall

  • @annahoward6334
    @annahoward6334 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for bringing out the truth. God bless.

  • @pastorernestalbuquerque4770
    @pastorernestalbuquerque4770 Год назад

    Hi, continue to do the good work for the Lord, I'm enjoying all your content. God bless.

  • @onlyRyanRoger
    @onlyRyanRoger 4 года назад +2

    Francis chan isnt a false prophet/teacher
    He is on a journey like the rest of us. Sometimes we look back at what we said with regret. The net fruit of Francis' journey is aligned with the bible. I've seen francis grow over the years. No man is perfect.
    As for the others, consistently the message they teach lacks sovereignty and has a general narcissistic focus. The fruit of their life is more aligned with the world.
    Putting francis in the same camp as the rest of these teachers, in my opinion, is incorrect. The rest of what you've shown, put together makes sense.

    • @FlawlesZMa
      @FlawlesZMa 4 года назад +2

      he is yoking up with all false teachers and promoting them and false heresy, he is one of them..

    • @onlyRyanRoger
      @onlyRyanRoger 4 года назад +1

      @@FlawlesZMa This has only happened very recently. Francis does not preach any form of heresy. He may have inadvertently defended some questionable folks over the last year, but his preaching and teaching is sound.
      All others in this vid and those called out in the American Gospel: Christ Alone documentary, I'd agree are deceiving many people whether knowingly or not.
      Francis called out Rob Bell's 'Love Wins', even writing a sound book 'erasing hell' to dispel Bell's teaching. He has also spoken against the prosperity gospel and he aligns theologically and in person many times with John Piper and Ravi Zacharias.
      We should pray for Francis, that he come away from these things as he is clearly not theologically aligned with those he has recently shared stages with. He thinks (and address it in a response) he was doing good to go to these places and share truth. He realises now this may not have been wise. We should pray for him, that either God give him wisdom to lead those who attend these events to the true gospel, or that he come fully away from sharing stages with the leaders. He does not align with them and says as much himself.
      The fairest write-up that I saw is here: pastorgabehughes.blogspot.com/2019/03/francis-chan-defends-his-friendship.html

  • @christophgouws8311
    @christophgouws8311 3 года назад

    God says He hates the workers of unrighteousness. Unless He's planning on saving some of these men, He hates them.

  • @jesuschristbiblebiblestudy
    @jesuschristbiblebiblestudy 4 года назад +1

    On this charismatic issue, it is needed to affirm the ecumenical consensus of the church down through the ages and across confessional lines that the Bible should be read as a unity and as narrative testimony to the identities and actions of God and of Jesus Christ. Amen

  • @williewiner4161
    @williewiner4161 4 года назад +1

    As a sister told me. Your tongue always rats you out. So very true.

  • @robbyclark6915
    @robbyclark6915 3 года назад +1

    So if I see the preacher lying and stealing and teaching blasphemy I cannot say anything, NOTHING, about it? Not a peep? Because then I’m a murderer?

  • @barbaraburke2937
    @barbaraburke2937 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Brother Steven, yes these must be exposed by the Truth from the Word of God, the true holy scriptures, and this too angers me because of their deceptions that are leading many who follow them to hell, fire and brimstone. I pray the Lord will help those who been deceived and come out from them, to open their eyes and come to the real Jesus.

  • @alantate25
    @alantate25 3 года назад

    Brother some of your editing is out of control funny 😆 keep up the good work

  • @dhearndon
    @dhearndon 4 года назад

    They forget how christians are to beware of wolves in sheep clothing and false prophets. They act like they are up to Jesus level and you shouldn’t question them.

  • @williamgammeter5113
    @williamgammeter5113 4 года назад +3

    This is helpful...me and my fellow "small group" members at our big box church...have experienced similar strategies.

    • @juliesmock7614
      @juliesmock7614 4 года назад

      What is your big box Church? Mine was the vineyard

    • @williamgammeter5113
      @williamgammeter5113 4 года назад

      @@juliesmock7614 been to Vineyards...but ours was a Wesleyan one in South Dakota of all places. Fortunately there were also confessional churches there also

  • @sbrgm
    @sbrgm 4 года назад

    Their favorite KJV reads: "Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." So, therefore: it's never enough marking those - if one considers the huge damage they do to the real body of Christ.

  • @paulvillarreal2797
    @paulvillarreal2797 4 года назад +2

    Satan is so clever. Very intelligent. God created him like so. He says ok, " you want to follow Jesus. I'll give you a certain wrong Jesus to follow. Who's end is the exact same as every other rouse. Follow the RIGHT Christ

  • @vdr3846
    @vdr3846 4 года назад +1

    John MacArthur is worth 14.5 million dollars. He has also made similar comments about the Blood of Jesus that Kenneth Copeland has made in the past. Why no video on him?

  • @proudmisfit4405
    @proudmisfit4405 4 года назад +1

    Nkt!! Francis is a solid brother. Call it what you will.

  • @kenfrauenknecht6995
    @kenfrauenknecht6995 3 года назад +1

    What spirit does Francis see? How does he know mens hearts when scripture tells us not to trust our hearts and only God can know it.

  • @elanevdwesthuizen1054
    @elanevdwesthuizen1054 3 года назад +1

    Why must they always defend each other? Make no sense, perhaps only if they need to protect something very valuable like their own ridicilous lifestyle.
    We must keep on questioning these wolves with their false doctrine.

  • @beanbag345
    @beanbag345 4 года назад +1

    I saw that Todd White sermon and had many if these same observations. This was good, not bashing, evaluating with Biblical guidance.