In their intro, they want to eat the Advisor until he convinces them the Bear God can be devoured. Greasus, the Overtyrant muses how he's going to turn Ursun into "Smoked God Ribs".
I loved it so much, I'm trying every faction to see which one I want to focus on more and all their intro is like ''I'll use the bear for something really important to me and somewhat profound'' while the ogre's are literally like ''god bbq could be good! Let's go to hell'' and I just love it!
its hilarious how all the other youtubers do a "ogre kingdoms feature episode" but play from the start of the campaign, play 3 battles, and dont even touch the ogre camps, its shameful honestly at least with legend of total war you always know you're going to learn something new
That's why I like legend tbh. He actually dives deep into the mechanics and uses it, showing off what you can do with it. I can't stand the way he cheeses every fight, I just find it to be unfun but he really knows his stuff and is able to see multiple different mechanics and show how they overlap. I've watched for instance the Khorne introduction video for several different youtubers, some completely fail to mention the auto colonize mechanic, and only Legend from what I've seen even bother to mention that you can increase the chance via technology, which is HUGE.
@@alecshockowitz8385 Yeah not everyone can get behind the cheese he does, but i think everyone who watches him can agree that he understand warhammer games better then 99.99% of people and the way he plays the map is something i look up to. I'm so fucking bad on map and only decent in battles. So i hope to be as good as he is with map stuff, probably going to be harder in WH3 because every faction has map mechanics unlike in WH2 and there is just more map stuff going on in general with outposts, new diplomacy and so on. So i know i'm going to struggle on that end, but hope to improve.
@@demon3203 i think that may be top 1 in terms of knowledge about campaign. I hate how he cheeses battles, completely not my playstyle, but his knowledge is great, I ALWAYS learn something from him, and his description of tw3 are superb, because they are really insightful
I remember people were so worried about the Ogres because they were another pre-order DLC like WoC and Norsca but looking at them it kind of seems the worry should've been the other way round, Ogres look like they were made at the same level of quality as the last few game 2 DLCs while the other launch races look like game 2 launch quality with some game 1 skill trees.
I don`t want to be that Guy, but Norsca where one of the most Fun Factions ingame when the Came out XD. Chaos Warriors where Shitty all the Way, but I would not be really surprised, if they become useless after a Few Dlcs for the Base Factions.
@@painkillerauflauf5770 yeah, when they came out Norsca was great, most likely the best thing CA made for game 1 but they never seemed to do well in game 2 and in their current state they're down there with pre-rework Wood Elves, pre-rework Beastmen and WoC. Vampire Counts are somewhat above them purely due to the fact that they are actually somewhat powerful but their age is also definitely showing compared to the races that got larger scale reworks. Ogres on the other hand look like they'll be quality for a while and the fact that they're confirmed to be getting at least one more lord in future (likely a lord pack since they're still missing a few units and a hero choice) means that they'll probably get a pick-up even if they do start falling behind.
@@painkillerauflauf5770 probably in the Lord pack alongside Yhetees and Bruisers. if I had to bet on who the lord would be I'd personally put my money on Golgfag Maneater with hopefully some more Maneater variants and customisable Maneater lords/heroes (the Customiseable stuff for the Daemon Prince looks like it'd be perfect for Maneaters). I know that other people are hoping for either Ghark Ironskin (who I'd say is entirely possible if they are released alongside something Chaos Dwarf related) or Bragg the Gutsman (who would fit more as a Legendary Hero than a lord since it's an important point in his lore that no Ogre would ever willingly follow him because they find his methods of killing too disturbing. I can certainly picture Bragg getting included but he really wouldn't fit as a LL). if the next LL the Ogres get does turn out to be Golgfag Maneater then that'd be a perfect time to rework the Ogre Mercenary contracts since they's currently the only part of their racial mechanics that seem underwhelming.
Actually looking forwards to the Ogres more than the other races, Kislev and Cathay are like fringe factions in the Warhammer world at best. They are mentioned and serve a purpose but don't give me the same nostalgic feel as the other races, and I've never really been into Chaos, a bunch of edge lords, prefer them being the enemy.
Am hopping we will get a Malice warriors of chaos subfaction that will actually be able to hold some negotiations with non chaos faction while having the war lockout with chaos factions. Especially with the alliance outposts functions and other perks I like the idea of some more impactful coinflip factions that can end up friend or foe randomly each campaign file.
I don't really care about any of the new races. I'll play each of them, but the thing I'm really looking forward to is kicking N'Kari as Teclis or purging the world of Chaos as the lizardmen xD (in a full size Lustria, hopefully)
No way there's less than 2 ogre dlcs. Ghark ironskin is definitely coming in to give the ogres super heavy armored units, and golfag Maneater is too iconic not include.
After 5000 hours of TWWH2 I decided I should buy a tabletop army. I found a huge Greenskin army on Ebay for cheap and it came with an Ogre army too. So I'm already in love with Ogres, def going them first.
For contracts I hope they can change to where they are structured similarly to quest battles, like letting you teleport to the battle destination and fight and complete the contract. It would at least help make them more relevant and less of a chore.
Recently played through the Ogre Kingdoms and they have a research now that does essentially allow unlimited camps. Need to get them to lvl 5 and it's an end of the tree research, but it's there.
So in the sense of ogre permament camps, you would have one that focuses on the military and the other for money and meat production, While having a few as temp camps when u go into enemy territory?
i dont really main ogres, and they never took my fancy but this is a campaign i can get into! i just hope they aren't limited to very few DLC in the future...
Free LC lord and then a dlc that includes yehtees and any other frost themed ogre kingdoms units, plus gorger Lord and some other LL. Likely they will also get units from Dogs of War update at some point, offering themed Maneater Ogres.
@@alecshockowitz8385 ah love me some potential dlc, i gotta read more about the lore of the ogres to prepare for the 17th, the release is almost upon us..!
My neighbour, who has a cousin that knows a dude whose hairdresser told him that her friend's dad, who works for CA, had it on good authority that there is a vegan ogre kingdom DLC coming out soon.
Dude noblars are essential. You can boost their damage up to 42 but they help prevent leadership breaks. Late game you can make them insane. I run no less than two or three units in my front line.
I think as long as the Army is fun, I don’t mind bad faction effects. I mean, I love the Lizardmen but my dog did Sotek Cult get screwed in their faction abilities.
I'm currently playing cathay and it definitely feels like they have some gaps in their roster, kind of like skaven were pre-dlc in warhammer 2 (though not quite as weak). I don't know anything about their roster in the board game but I'd expect a ranged terracotta sentinel or something. Also some kind of high tier infantry that isn't anti-large and some monster units inspired by eastern mythology. Lots of possibilities for future DLC for sure.
I would like to point out a niche mechanic about noblars. If you have no meat they take all the attrition instead of the ogre units not sure about the usefulness of that.
Creative Assembly: Ogres have this Meat resource, and they canonically eat large quantities of meat as well. Lame player: But I'm a vegan. 😢 Ogres: S'alright, we don't mind, we still find you tasty.
Oh, great, the skill and tech trees no longer have the brightness of a thousand suns. Will no longer have to put on and take off my sunglasses when playing the game.
The camera dip is a pain in the arse. Had the same for some maps on Warhammer 2.. I'm hoping someone makes a mod because I don't think CA will sort it.
The problem is that it is random to actually find a lord with that big name. It’s honestly not needed and just making a new army would be worth more imo
Do ogres have cav at all? That charge bonus could be pretty good in a army with high charge bonus already, which could sort of make ogres like a bretonia except simpler and WAY higher unit mass.
folk of doom is posably my favorite spell it is so usful almost everywhere unless you have access to a just tacticly superior spell lore it's almost as good if not as good as fire or life in my opinion.
You're are not the only one, its currently the most complained about thing by people who are playing and watching at the moment. I'm fairly confident that a UI overhaul will be one of the first mods created for the game.
Yes, lord abilities in skill tree and even some faction effects can slow enemy reinforcements and friendly reinforcements are delayed if you quick drag the reinforcement location away from where it defaults to.
@@holo525 the problem with dwarfs is they have massive charge resistance and the elves well all three races have some of the best archer units in the game
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Them ogres be like: "Bear hot pot probably taste really good. Lets go to hell and fetch the best bear for the best hot pot!"
XD yeahp.
But nothing beats Kislevite Potato Bear hotpot.
In their intro, they want to eat the Advisor until he convinces them the Bear God can be devoured. Greasus, the Overtyrant muses how he's going to turn Ursun into "Smoked God Ribs".
I loved it so much, I'm trying every faction to see which one I want to focus on more and all their intro is like ''I'll use the bear for something really important to me and somewhat profound'' while the ogre's are literally like ''god bbq could be good! Let's go to hell'' and I just love it!
Reminds me of Clan Moulder’s crazy campaign in Twisted and Twilight
14:20
I never thought I would hear "Skavenslave slingers" and "big threat" in the same sentence.
Trust the Skaven to find a way to make anything a dangerous threat. Wobbly spatulas included.
I am pretty sure he is referring to his early game where he still doesn't have a direct counter to them
Legend actually puts a beast caster on the same level as a fire caster.
Time changes
Yeah. Fire has been nerfed, though (so has flock of doom, you can't affect models out of the radius anymore)
@@svenbrede6151 I wouldn't call that a nerf since originally the spell didn't do that either
it just was bugged for a super short time
@@svenbrede6151 how was fire nerfed? I haven’t played around with stuff properly yet
@@wardenstone6021 I think they tones down the numbers on flamestorm and burning head.
I really like how you get right into it. Don't have to skip anything on your channel!
Yeah, his no bullshit attitude is a hit or miss for people. I like it personally.
its hilarious how all the other youtubers do a "ogre kingdoms feature episode" but play from the start of the campaign, play 3 battles, and dont even touch the ogre camps, its shameful honestly
at least with legend of total war you always know you're going to learn something new
That's why I like legend tbh.
He actually dives deep into the mechanics and uses it, showing off what you can do with it.
I can't stand the way he cheeses every fight, I just find it to be unfun but he really knows his stuff and is able to see multiple different mechanics and show how they overlap.
I've watched for instance the Khorne introduction video for several different youtubers, some completely fail to mention the auto colonize mechanic, and only Legend from what I've seen even bother to mention that you can increase the chance via technology, which is HUGE.
@@alecshockowitz8385 he didn't cheese this fight
@@alecshockowitz8385 Yeah not everyone can get behind the cheese he does, but i think everyone who watches him can agree that he understand warhammer games better then 99.99% of people and the way he plays the map is something i look up to. I'm so fucking bad on map and only decent in battles. So i hope to be as good as he is with map stuff, probably going to be harder in WH3 because every faction has map mechanics unlike in WH2 and there is just more map stuff going on in general with outposts, new diplomacy and so on. So i know i'm going to struggle on that end, but hope to improve.
@@demon3203 i think that may be top 1 in terms of knowledge about campaign.
I hate how he cheeses battles, completely not my playstyle, but his knowledge is great, I ALWAYS learn something from him, and his description of tw3 are superb, because they are really insightful
I remember people were so worried about the Ogres because they were another pre-order DLC like WoC and Norsca but looking at them it kind of seems the worry should've been the other way round, Ogres look like they were made at the same level of quality as the last few game 2 DLCs while the other launch races look like game 2 launch quality with some game 1 skill trees.
I don`t want to be that Guy, but Norsca where one of the most Fun Factions ingame when the Came out XD. Chaos Warriors where Shitty all the Way, but I would not be really surprised, if they become useless after a Few Dlcs for the Base Factions.
Shame about no ROR though
@@painkillerauflauf5770 yeah, when they came out Norsca was great, most likely the best thing CA made for game 1 but they never seemed to do well in game 2 and in their current state they're down there with pre-rework Wood Elves, pre-rework Beastmen and WoC. Vampire Counts are somewhat above them purely due to the fact that they are actually somewhat powerful but their age is also definitely showing compared to the races that got larger scale reworks.
Ogres on the other hand look like they'll be quality for a while and the fact that they're confirmed to be getting at least one more lord in future (likely a lord pack since they're still missing a few units and a hero choice) means that they'll probably get a pick-up even if they do start falling behind.
@@Eclipsed_Embers Now that you say it, where the Heck are my Bloody Thundertusks. I WANT MY THUNDERTUSKS
@@painkillerauflauf5770 probably in the Lord pack alongside Yhetees and Bruisers. if I had to bet on who the lord would be I'd personally put my money on Golgfag Maneater with hopefully some more Maneater variants and customisable Maneater lords/heroes (the Customiseable stuff for the Daemon Prince looks like it'd be perfect for Maneaters). I know that other people are hoping for either Ghark Ironskin (who I'd say is entirely possible if they are released alongside something Chaos Dwarf related) or Bragg the Gutsman (who would fit more as a Legendary Hero than a lord since it's an important point in his lore that no Ogre would ever willingly follow him because they find his methods of killing too disturbing. I can certainly picture Bragg getting included but he really wouldn't fit as a LL).
if the next LL the Ogres get does turn out to be Golgfag Maneater then that'd be a perfect time to rework the Ogre Mercenary contracts since they's currently the only part of their racial mechanics that seem underwhelming.
I never thought I'd see the day Legend would recommend flock of doom over fire magic
Burning head and flame storm < flock of doom
Ogres my lord,
Those delicate gentlemen are more well-mannered than they are subtle.
I love legend's video style. It's like he grabbed you sat you down in a chair and was like "look kid I'm about to tell you some sheet"
Actually looking forwards to the Ogres more than the other races, Kislev and Cathay are like fringe factions in the Warhammer world at best. They are mentioned and serve a purpose but don't give me the same nostalgic feel as the other races, and I've never really been into Chaos, a bunch of edge lords, prefer them being the enemy.
i have the same take on Chaos. And I am very excited for Ogres Kislev and Cathay .
Exactly this. And, truth be told, not too big on Ogres that much, either. Then again, I didn't care for any of the WH2 base factions, either.
Am hopping we will get a Malice warriors of chaos subfaction that will actually be able to hold some negotiations with non chaos faction while having the war lockout with chaos factions. Especially with the alliance outposts functions and other perks I like the idea of some more impactful coinflip factions that can end up friend or foe randomly each campaign file.
I don't really care about any of the new races. I'll play each of them, but the thing I'm really looking forward to is kicking N'Kari as Teclis or purging the world of Chaos as the lizardmen xD (in a full size Lustria, hopefully)
No way there's less than 2 ogre dlcs. Ghark ironskin is definitely coming in to give the ogres super heavy armored units, and golfag Maneater is too iconic not include.
One of them could be freelc like imrik.
@@dylanhughes8457 since its dlc for dlc I feel like FLC is what theyll do even though im assuming most of us will have them lol
@@AkhilMulpuru or just a heavier focus on ogre camps, as I feel that they are steering away from horde factions when possible
@@dylanhughes8457 I love horde factions but it's only fun with taurox in vanilla so I'm liking the ogres concept
Current year won't allow a character called Golfag, duh
I love each faction has there own movie style introduction, ogre’s story is pretty funny LUL.
Khorne performing the blitzkrieg, Tzeench being a colosal pain in the ass, Nurgle being shit.
Never thought I'd hear the words: "You'll wanna get a beast wizard"
After 5000 hours of TWWH2 I decided I should buy a tabletop army. I found a huge Greenskin army on Ebay for cheap and it came with an Ogre army too. So I'm already in love with Ogres, def going them first.
Dang, mind if I add you on Steam. That sounds awesome! Wouldn't mind checking them out. Interested in some myself for a while.
I can't believe Legend said to get a beasts wizard. Tzeentch must have control of him
I like how the Ogre Mages lost Evasion and gained Bonus vs Infantry
Infinite camps would make the ogres overpowered. Modders moving that to the top of the list.
You should do army tier lists at the beginning and it would be interesting to see where the armies end up in a few years
Orks: Who are you?
Ogres: We are you but bigger, and better.
It’s gonna be ranged gnoblar stack for the whole game, isn’t it?
Leadbelcher stack is actually poggers though, I predict mixed Stacks of Leadbelchers and Gnoblar Hunters.
Someone has watched the latest Okoii video.
Flashbacks to Legend playing Bretonnians with Peasant Archers.
@@ajaxjs flashbacks to Legend playing Sparta with slinger spam
I love how legend does not give a fuck about the dog barking in the background of the video. Too many youtubers stress about that
The Ogre Kingdoms can be summed up with two fast food commercials of "Where's the beef?" and "We have the meats!"
I hope somebody makes a mod to add the Gorger Lord as a legendary lord into the game.
Future dlc, bet
AY YA YA YAAAY
What Gorger Lord?
@@mitchmitting102 Warhammer 40k is as interesting as castration with a rusty spoon, so I'll pass.
@@doubledee8677 aren't we a little edy boii?
Lords my Ogre
For contracts I hope they can change to where they are structured similarly to quest battles, like letting you teleport to the battle destination and fight and complete the contract. It would at least help make them more relevant and less of a chore.
Wadaya lookin' at mah gut, fer?!
Preloaded and ready to go. Can't wait for tomorrow.
I think there will be 2 more LL. 4 seems to be a number of most of DLC factions in game 2.
It’d be so cool if Ogres didn’t chase the souls, but instead just wanted to eat the entire map.
just like Grom and his couldron. Getting buffs the more races you ate.
so theoretically could you get a great unclean one through alliance?
Yes
The ogre area looks so lush and vibrant.
Recently played through the Ogre Kingdoms and they have a research now that does essentially allow unlimited camps. Need to get them to lvl 5 and it's an end of the tree research, but it's there.
So in the sense of ogre permament camps, you would have one that focuses on the military and the other for money and meat production, While having a few as temp camps when u go into enemy territory?
yems
Execelent intro to the ogres. Thanks!
I suggest doing warhammer 3 races roster tier list like you did with warhammer 2 and 1 races
Would also be interesting to see a prediction of where they would fall on tier list on the empire map.
Practical, useful tips, what else could you ask.
Camps sound like pseudo black arks. Cool stuff.
i dont really main ogres, and they never took my fancy but this is a campaign i can get into! i just hope they aren't limited to very few DLC in the future...
Free LC lord and then a dlc that includes yehtees and any other frost themed ogre kingdoms units, plus gorger Lord and some other LL.
Likely they will also get units from Dogs of War update at some point, offering themed Maneater Ogres.
@@alecshockowitz8385 ah love me some potential dlc, i gotta read more about the lore of the ogres to prepare for the 17th, the release is almost upon us..!
My neighbour, who has a cousin that knows a dude whose hairdresser told him that her friend's dad, who works for CA, had it on good authority that there is a vegan ogre kingdom DLC coming out soon.
Ogres my lord
Stonehorns really make life so much easier for ogres.
That countdown is pretty cool.
Dude noblars are essential. You can boost their damage up to 42 but they help prevent leadership breaks. Late game you can make them insane. I run no less than two or three units in my front line.
Ogres my Lord
I’m hungry for some
Ogre kingdoms!
I think as long as the Army is fun, I don’t mind bad faction effects. I mean, I love the Lizardmen but my dog did Sotek Cult get screwed in their faction abilities.
And, yet, the Cult of Sotek is still the most powerful Lizardman faction, ability-wise. CA did them dirty.
I'm currently playing cathay and it definitely feels like they have some gaps in their roster, kind of like skaven were pre-dlc in warhammer 2 (though not quite as weak).
I don't know anything about their roster in the board game but I'd expect a ranged terracotta sentinel or something. Also some kind of high tier infantry that isn't anti-large and some monster units inspired by eastern mythology. Lots of possibilities for future DLC for sure.
I would like to point out a niche mechanic about noblars. If you have no meat they take all the attrition instead of the ogre units not sure about the usefulness of that.
I'm expecting the ogres to say "all ere boss" like the orks in dawn of war
Absolutely fun and love the mercenary contracts
My first three:
Nurgle
Khorne
Ogres
Creative Assembly: Ogres have this Meat resource, and they canonically eat large quantities of meat as well.
Lame player: But I'm a vegan. 😢
Ogres: S'alright, we don't mind, we still find you tasty.
ORGERS MY LORD !!!
POgers my lord
So, how is the faction tier list looking like?
I can't figure out why I am unable to recruit any Heroes as ogres, it says I need to have a chain of specific buildings in order to do so
The embargo is all ogre now
That’s the ogre spirit!
Oh, great, the skill and tech trees no longer have the brightness of a thousand suns. Will no longer have to put on and take off my sunglasses when playing the game.
The music is dope
Ok but woudnt the fire belly still be better to deal with chaff units that bog you down rather than the beast wizard ?
The camera dip is a pain in the arse. Had the same for some maps on Warhammer 2.. I'm hoping someone makes a mod because I don't think CA will sort it.
Im so hyped for Warhammer 3
's Vampire DLC XD
Could you possibly spam a bunch of zero upkeep unbreakable Gnoblar armies and use them the game way one would use a skeleton spam army?
The problem is that it is random to actually find a lord with that big name. It’s honestly not needed and just making a new army would be worth more imo
Must eat-feed!
If you ally with Grand Cathay can you place an Outpost in there city and recurit there units as the ogre faction?
Yes
Do ogres have cav at all? That charge bonus could be pretty good in a army with high charge bonus already, which could sort of make ogres like a bretonia except simpler and WAY higher unit mass.
Two monstrous cavalry unit types with a couple weapon choises for each
So the Ogres are semi-nomadic? Cool, sounds very interesting gameplay-wise.
Ogres are basically fat mongols without horses lol
If you have the maw in your heart ❤️ and in your gut, this army is for you.
Does anyone know if is there still the limit of 3 reinforcement armies in warhammer 3 like they did in warhammer 2?
An army that runs on meat...Luffys fave faction confirmed.
folk of doom is posably my favorite spell it is so usful almost everywhere unless you have access to a just tacticly superior spell lore it's almost as good if not as good as fire or life in my opinion.
I guess I'm the only one who hates the ui and the highlighting of everything, hopefully mods will be able to change them. thanks for covering though
You're are not the only one, its currently the most complained about thing by people who are playing and watching at the moment. I'm fairly confident that a UI overhaul will be one of the first mods created for the game.
The UI looks like a Geocities page.
@@demon3203 Thanks for the reply, I hadn't seen anything on reddit and figured I'd get swarmed with d/v for merely suggesting
Ogres my lord!
Hope he goes greases and go greedy ironguts stack
🍖 Ogres My Lord 🍖
There will be at least 1 ogre dlc to bring the yeti’s into it.
Can you recruit ogres as mercenaries if you are playing another faction in WH3? and how do you do so?
Yes, your army has to be in the circle of influence of an ogre camp to be able to recruit one ogre unit as mercenary.
Just waiting for a mod that reverts winds of magic back to when it was good
The Ogre is kinda micro intensive. Im not good at that :D
guess ill stick with Kislev/Cathay
Ogres always make me want to get a big snack.
If a Camp is destroyed can you replace it?
How do camps affect upkeep?
11:00 this sound is from troy
Yea it was very odd when even the forces of chaos want a nap me
OMG an entire faction of british football hooligans.
Rich in fat, rich in slaughter, but most important, rich in riches
Interesting that the game shows you how long it will take reinforcements to appear. Is there a way to influence that number?
They've completely overhauled the reinforcement mechanic. You can move the reinforcement point around the map, but they will take longer to arrive.
@@jellyrolls2765 That's cool. Where the game placed the reinforcements could be kinda... surprising.
Yes, lord abilities in skill tree and even some faction effects can slow enemy reinforcements and friendly reinforcements are delayed if you quick drag the reinforcement location away from where it defaults to.
Orges my Lord
I never sent an oger in a fight without a gnoblar to tank all the damage.
So I have basically no oger losses...
Ogres sound like orcs from Dawn of War
"ogres my lord!"
looks like meats back on the menu boys!
Why do they make contracts so paltry in payout?
'i am going to war against them' even though they are giving you twenty meat.....
dude you could do both.
If ogres struggle against missiles how would they fare agonist the elf factions and dwarf’s
Poorly. Although their own ranged and artillery are VERY good. Leadbelchers are great and the 2 artilery pieces are great as well.
@@holo525 the problem with dwarfs is they have massive charge resistance and the elves well all three races have some of the best archer units in the game
Ogres VS skaven or 500 VS 5000 ^^
All you can eat time
"MEAT. MEAT. MEEEEEAAATTTTT!"
Lead belchers bring home the meats!
Poger my lord