People would be shocked if they knew just how many picture perfect moms are actually full blown addicts. Many addicts do not look like the stereotypical version that is most commonly shown in films/tv.
@@Midnight0Mistress Yea it’s so wild to think about the stuff that doctors used to prescribe back then. I remember seeing a post that had a photo of a very very old “prescription” given by the doctor (I think for a sore throat or something, but I’m not for certain) and it contained whiskey and cocaine!
I was addicted for ten years to painkillers, no one would help me because i wasn’t shooting up heroin. One lady in a treatment facility actually told me to please my arm with a needle before appointment. Luckily I found an amazing doctor who didn’t give up on me. That was 12 years ago and I’ve been sober since. Opioids are so freaking addictive you would do anything to not feel withdrawn. I’m really happy now there’re so many different treatments. It could truly happen to anyone.
You hit the nail right on the head. And because doctors and pharmacists have envisioned in their head what an addict is “supposed to look like,” there are so many people who do not get proper pain management simply because they are being profiled.
You know, if Dr. Choi sends a note to her insurance company that she is abusing drugs, they could cancel her drug plan. Insurance companies don't like it when you get prescriptions you don't need because it's more money they're paying out for the same price that you're paying. I find it hilarious that she sits here and says that she's a lawyer while she breaks the law. She's not a very good lawyer.
I mean if she’s actually a lawyer then she would know that she just committed fraud 😅. By giving a false name to medical staff to obtain prescription drugs, her lawsuit would be thrown out at best (at worst she faces legal or career consequences)
Aside from bein an addict - this episode is another perfect example of chicagos writers being braindead an hollywoodified She sued and got the guy in prison who she complained about and got her prescription. The writers of this show have explosive diarrhea once per episode because they cant be bothered to write a logical script
I'm not gonna call addicts "stupid" because they can be pretty clever. I will call addicts "clouded" though, in that their cravings and pains due to said cravings tend to overwrite a clear judgment and common sense... you wouldn't believe some of the reasonings they have sometimes given me during detox and rehab
@@maxi1ification it's true, addicts can come up with some stories... when an addict wants their pills, drugs, etc they will stop at NOTHING. It's crazy what a bottle of those pills will do to a normal and nice person...
@@Tacobunny46 Sure thing! And yes, law here can be confusing, especially when it's a state vs. federal law. Have you seen some of the weird state laws, like in Alabama, where it's illegal to wear denim on one certain street in one certain city? Or in Tennessee, where you cannot wear a wig to church that may cause fright? Kind of hilarious. 😂
He's so freaking awesome. You could she was expecting him to crumble under the weight of her hysterics and threats. His straight, flat-out "no" showed her that he means business. He's just so awesome.
For anyone curious, she proceeded to file a formal complaint about the 'Mexican' next door and he was arrested on hospital property. It was absolutely heart breaking. The 'fight' they had was because the brother was scared to donate stem cells to his sister and be identified by the feds and deported (his wife is also pregnant). Her husband obviously got mad and shoved him. He eventually came around to decide to donate and then his worst fear was realized because of this awful woman. They didn't say for sure, but I believe she also got the boss doctor to give her the meds, as when she was leaving she was very calm and seemed pleased with herself.
@@m64h yeah I get that, it's just that it's the same character every time, like the dude lives in the hospital and conveniently just hovers around hahahah
It's always one of the hardest jobs of a medical proffesional to separate pain from drug seeking. Pain is a very personal and subjective experience and there's no real empirical way to measure pain. Severe pain can even be entirely psychosomatic. There's a semi famous tale of a man whom had shot himself in the foot with a nail gun on accident. The whole ride to the hospital in the ambulance he was screaming in pain. When they get to the hospital the boot is cut off, and the nail falls to the floor with a clink. It has gone between his toes, missing his foot entirely. The worker swears on his life that he felt immense pain that disappeared as soon as he realized there was no injury. It's possible this woman is in pain, but she's in pain because she expects to be in pain without her medication.
This show did show a similar case. Where a woman was itching so bad that she went right to the skull. She did take some medicine a while ago that did cause her to itch, but that wasn't causing it. Cause she didn't take them for a while. But she was itching for so long that her brain was wired to think that there was a cause to itch on her head
There's nothing that destroys your trust in medical science as much as when you're denied pain relief while in severe pain. Watching someone downplay your symptoms right in front of you causes boundless frustration.
You’re right. Opioid addicts will absolutely believe they are in extreme pain whenever they’re going thru withdraw, even addicts who never had any prior pain and only abused the drug for its high. One guy I know who was an opioid addict got clean and he said it took him about a year after detox for this type of pain to really stop. I’d imagine it’s even worse if you’re someone who truly does have pain and becomes addicted to painkillers. Edit: when I say they “believe it,” I understand they’re really feeling this pain. I didn’t word that part very well.
@@virgie4715 I know someone who is in pain every day and refuses to take any pain killers, even Tylenol or ibuprofen because he doesn’t want to become addicted or dependent on meds to get through a day.
This is more common than people think. My ex husband injured his back. He got addicted to the pain killers. And when he got cut off the pain pills, he moved onto cocaine and Fentanyl (I think I spelled it wrong) he has been to the hospital over 5 times for drug overdose. It is truly sad to see how many people are on drugs.
yep. my dad was in construction and in 2012 he fell off a roof and injured his back and the doc kept prescribing pain pills when they weren’t needed and when he got cut off he was already addicted and moved onto heroin and whatever else. in 2016 he passed away from an enlarged heart and possible overdose. never knew for sure which but even if it wasn’t an overdose his heart would of not been able to take the pressure anymore. it happens so much more than we think and it’s all about money. unfortunately.
I mean... I get it. I have some minor aches all over my body, basically constant tooth aches etc. With the minor pain killers, like Ibuprofen, I usually need a double-dosis to even feel it, dunno why. When I got my wisdome teeth removed, I was on painkillers for a whole week, so basically two Ibus-600 every what, four hours? It was such a bliss, really relaxing. After a few days though I noticed that I had a huge bruise on my arm. Must have hit it somewhere rather hard, didn't feel a thing. Since then I've became more caucious and I also try to stay clear from any bigger medication...can't really trust myself with it until it is absolutely necessary
I went through two of the worst years of my life dealing with endometriosis, they never wanted to give me anything more than ibuprofen. I got to the point where I stopped going for help. Lucky for me I’m not an addict but people do have pain and it sucks when we’re not believed but some are and they simply have an addiction.
There's an episode similar to this btw. It's not that her pain isn't believed but because she displayed behaviors consistent with pain med seeking. You probably never used a fake name, or demanded to sue a doctor.
I have endometriosis and this same thing has happened to me so many times. There is a balance between helping patients who really are sick and in pain and not overprescribing. I wish doctors would really think about these decisions more, especially ER doctors. I have been dismissed so many times before and finally had surgery and then found out that if I had been listened to I wouldn’t have had to risk sepsis from a ruptured endometriosis lesion.
@@sydneybarnett6806 I completely understand. Sorry about what you’ve been through. I definitely know how hard it is! I know you’re a warrior like me lol 💛
Black people are the least believed when it comes to pain levels. I have a friend with endometriosis and she didn't get her diagnosis until she was 30 because they didn't believe her pain was real or that she was exaggerating her cramps.
my mom was kind of addicted to pain meds as well. She'd use them for migraines and they were "the only thing that would work" She took some so strong she (thank god) developed an allergy to it and (thank god!!) it happened while she was having a procedure at the hospital. Now she can't take any anymore and since she wasn't too deeply addicted she didn't have to go through withdrawal. These things mess with your head, don't take them if you can avoid it and if you cannot, I hope you get better soon :(
I've suffered from chronic migraines since i was maybe 4/5yrs old (now i am a mum of a 20yr old boy). Sadly, for the most part because there is no "wound" to see; many pple will think you are making up stories when you say "..because it is the one thing which gives me relief...". I violently throw up when i have an attack, till I am heaving coz even bile is all out of my body, my eyes get swollen shut and the left side of my body jus feels like a rag doll. Least we forget heightened sense of smell and hearing and light sensitivity. Everything is just torturing you and sometimes an attack goes on for a few days. And because of throwing up you get dehydrated quickly and then it becomes a cycle of you are dehydrated coz you are unwell but now you are worse because you are dehydrated. You are just so desperate for it to just pause even for a second so you can at least fall asleep. Migraines are a different type of torture. I understand your mum. Completely. Glad she is doing well.
Could tell she was faking when she tried to say her back "locked up" . . . she could still move multiple parts of her back just fine and lifted/rested her torso on the bed. Body language is always important.
"I'll sue you and this entire emergancy room!" Fine, I'm sure the court would love to hear how you gave a fake name while demanding a refill of meds. This would look great on your law firm's site's profile.
And considering that she's using a fake name, it's obvious that she's been flagged as a frequent flyer as Brenna McDouglas. But hospitals are terrified of being sued because not only do they have to spend money to deal with it, they also have to take time out of doctors' days to go to court. A lot of times it's just easier for them to give in. Although I think this one should've went before an Ethics board. This is a catch-22. If they don't give her the meds, she sues. And if they do, she could OD and they'd be on the hook for negligent homicide. I don't like Dr. Lanik. He gives in too easily.
As a person who lives with severe chronic pain it can be very frustrating when docs immediately try to treat you like an addict without even really knowing your situation. I’m lucky that my team has worked really hard to make sure my situation is clearly explained in my chart. When I go in for breakthrough pain then it’s very bad because I hate being at the hospital. I do everything I can to manage my situation at home. I’m blessed to have a great pain doc that knows when narcotics are necessary. So many pain clinics are refusing to even give people narcotic pain relief, even after all other types of management have been exhausted. My pain is in my abdomen from intestinal failure and all the adhesions that I have from so many surgeries. I can’t be treated with steroid injections or other treatments for back or other joint pain. I can’t take NSAIDs because I get bad stomach bleeds. There are people who do need narcotic pain relief and shouldn’t be shamed because of it. And, there are times when addicts deal with real pain, there can’t be a blanket ban on pain medication because every case is unique. The thing that most people don’t understand in the war on opioids is that by refusing to give pain control to those who really need it is just punishing them, making them desperate. I’ve known people who have turned to trying to get drugs from the street because their pain docs suddenly quit prescribing the meds they had been on for long time. The fact is that if someone wants drugs they can find them in the street, most addicts don’t waste their time going to emergency rooms because they know they can’t score, they only go there when they don’t have the money for their dealer. It’s a tragic situation all around, I just hate when people with serious medical conditions are treated like drug seekers.
I was thinking exactly that -- I don't suffer from severe chronic pain, but I know a few people who do and terribly suffer from the doctors' assumption that taking meds makes them addicts instead of simply people in need of pain relief. The woman in this episode is extremely unpleasant and downright racist, but there's no actual indication that her pain is faked. They immediately deduced that she became an addict but doesn't suffer anymore, but what if she does? If her regular doctors decided that she was faking it and was "just" an addict, it's totally plausible that she'd go as far as assuming a fake identity to get the pain relief she needs. Pain can make you desperate. This case doesn't strike me as being as clear cut as Dr. Choi thinks it is. Before they sent her to an addiction specialist, they should send her to a pain specialist who can evaluate the amount of pain she is in (if any) and what to do about it. This obsession with addiction only manages to further harm people who need pain meds. Doctors seem to think that the point is to find the littlest amount of meds necessary when the actual point, for patients with chronic pain, should be to diminish or erase the pain as much as you can -- while avoiding harmful secondary effects as much as possible, if it's feasible. The point is the patient's well-being; not the doctor's self-righteous morals.
Are you really pretending this country isn’t dealing with an active “OPIOD crisis” because middle age white women abused their prescriptions? Junkies in middle America.
Addicts can have actual pain too. I get the point but it's tiring as someone with chronic pain who's been dismissed for 10 freaking years. You know what happens when your pain isn't believed and you end up 90lbs? You do drugs.
They did give her meds when she was curled up and looked like she was in pain. It’s just hard to do so when she looks comfortable standing, giving a fake name and demanding a specific name and dosage of a pain medication.
She wasn't ignored, though, sounded like she'd been through this act before and always threw in the Lawyer part so someone would cave out of fear she was true to her words or she was getting meds off the street, maybe both. She seems fine though when they confront her and she confesses but of course with one more last-ditch effort of manipulation using the patient in the next room as a scapegoat. I agree whole heartedly that addicts have pain but giving them the meds isn't the right choice either. Because is it really helping the pain or just feeding the habit?
They believed her that she was in pain. Her CT supported her injury was degeneragive. That's why they were talking to her about alternative pain management strategies. The truth is that alot of addicts became that way because their pain and symptoms are very real and they're prescribed opiods right off the back. The issue is that opiods change your very brain structure to make you crave them. You end up believing that the only way to live pain-free is with those opiods. And even if you get to the point to where you're mostly healed and can be weaned off the drug and go through PT to work through the remaining (far less severe) pain you don't want to. You've conditioned your brain to think pain = medicine. So you don't let yourself live with any pain, even the healthy pain of muscle regrowth, etc. Not giving patients with chronic pain drugs causes them to self-medicate. But giving patients with chronic pain opiods just extends the opiod crisis. It's a complex situstion that the medical field is still trying to navigate.
have u tried changing your diet? i know going plant based or going on a food elimination diet (no gluten, soy, dairy, sugar) has cured people of chronic pain, lupus , athritis and fibromyalgia
@@charlottevo5726 This is a farce. Vegan diets completely mess up your nutrition, vitamin levels, etc. It also will throw off your iron, leading to more body aches. People who go vegan and feel better, I'm happy for, but it's not going to help everyone and not by a long shot. I despise the idea that Opiates are evil, they *help* people, and Chronic pain, especially from Lupus, Arthiritis and Fibromyalgia, can't be magically cured by a diet change. How do I know this? Fibromyalgia is a neurological condition, and Arthiritis/Lupus are autoimmune. They're chronic conditions that only are 'cured' in a thousandth of a percent of cases. It's not the business of a doctor to tell someone who has a history of chronic pain to go get 'addiction treatment'. The very 'pill seeking behaviors' that the Obama Administration's CDC/FDA ordered docs to look out for are exactly the same as the behaviors of someone in severe pain that can't find relief. But what do I know, I've only done extensive research on the relationship between autoimmune conditions, and nutrition.
As someone with chronic pain and chronic illness, I can't tell you how many times I've asked if there was something stronger than Motrin that was non narcotic. I ended up with a hole in my stomach from taking too many nsaids. Tylenol does nothing, and even narco only helps for an hour or so. After years of pt, infusions in my spine, etc, I just deal with the pain and hope it ends now.
Sorry to hear about your struggles. That's one more terrible thing I hear about NSAIDs. I avoid them like the plague since I have ulcerative colitis anyway, and I know someone who got lung scarring from them due to taking them for a while after a car accident. I can see why people would opt for the narcotic route.
Yup tell me about it I have been suffering chronic pain for a lot of years now and when I tried going to hospital for some relief after days of pain I was told I might be going thru withdrawal from my pain medication(this was 3 WEEKS after my medication ran out and my doctor was on holiday) they couldn't do anything and referred me to a rehab clinic Ffs I am in my late 60's, was recovering from neck surgery from a month before and could barely move
Pain reliever addict here. I am a 22 years old and I fell on my wrist when I was 16. I developed a cyst. Had 1 operation to remove it, but it came back. The pain, I am in constant pain since 6 years. It took me 4 years to be taken seriously because they say that "It's a cyst, it doesn't hurt, it's not supposed to hurt". But it does. Some day I can't even write. I was a paint artist but I f*cking can't to this anymore. I've been crying all day everyday, went to all sort of emergencies and clinic just so they can help me with the pain. Before it was only my wrist but now my shoulder is giving me a piece of work too. And that's how I discovered the pain relievers. I take them everyday to manage the pain. I've been on the waiting list to get it surgically removed again and I haven't been called since.
Actually believe it or not a pain in my wrist that I found out that my mom and my auntie have they want to claim is just carpal tunnel syndrome but I heard she kept complaining and complaining about it she wants to blame for her doing hair. I got the same problem and almost couldn't write but my mom blame for me though cuz I was lazy and I wasn't I was in severe pain talk about neglect
Wow 🤩 she’s a racist lawyer and she’s a suburban clean mom. Not some druggie off the streets, what a turn around world we live in right? Btw I love that Asian doctor he’s hot and professional
I have sickle cell disease and I can say I've been labeled as others also have gotten labeled which is ridiculous. I only get my pain meds from my hematologist as far as my Roxy 15s & I've been with him since 2018. I don't get scripts from ERs or other physicians & I do my best to stick to 1 ER. I usually end up having to get admitted for a sickle cell crisis, IV meds & fluids plus a blood transfusion. In March 2017 I was found unresponsive and was in a coma for 5 days because a physician simply wouldn't listen. It sucks that the good have to suffer because of the bad. I've lost a ton of friends to this painful & unpredictable disease. Currently in school for medical billing and coding.
I'm so sorry you struggle with Sickle Cell, and wholeheartedly agree that everyone else shouldn't be penalized because of the addicts. I'm honestly callous when it comes to pill addicts. I say give them as many pills as they want. Not our business to police their intake, and it'll (sadly, but truthfully) weed itself out in a few generations.
@@AlyssMa7rin thank you so much for your kind words... it's very sad the good has to suffer for the bad & majority of time they are judging the wrong ones... I don't even get prescriptions from anyone but my Hematologist who I have been with for over 6 years now.
I'm always amazed that people can get pain meds so easily, and so often. Even after surgeries, or being in so much pain I'm vomiting, I've never been prescribed anything other than prescription strength Motrin.
And this is why I have never once been prescribed pain meds for my chronic pain :) Seriously though, I don't even like taking normal pain killers because I don't want to become reliant on them (not that they help). Besides just addiction, my sister developed an ulcer from too much ibuprofen. Never once have my doctor's suggested medication, and I'm glad of it.
Had to have my wisdom teeth removed. After surgery the dentist gave me hydrocodone for the pain. Honestly don't see what the big deal is, those pills just made me a bit drowsy.
@@zachscarbrough2727 Nah yeah, I totally agree with getting pain meds if you need them. But I'm in some kind of pain most of the time, and that's never really going to stop, so no one wants to put me on heavy pain killers for the rest of my life
@@zachscarbrough2727 I was given vicodin for the same thing. Wisdom teeth taken out. I only took them one or 2 times. I kept throwing up. It made me too dizzy and DID NOT take away my pain. I stopped taking them. I took the pain over throwing up. I was like oh he'll no! I'm not even eating and I'm throwing up. On top of that, still in pain. He'll nah!!! Same thing with Tylenol with codine. I had surgery and after I took Tylenol with codine, I kept throwing up. Nope. I was in agony for days, but I HATE feeling dizzy and throwing up WITH THE PASSION!
Yeah, I've got chronic pain as well and I'm genuinely terrified of becoming an addict. Thankfully my rheumatologist found me an anti inflammatory that manages to give me a few pain free hours most days and that is life changing. I'm also on another medication to prevent stomach ulcers and reflux but it's worth it.
Sadly, many people with addictions learn to be “unbearable…[and] so rude and so fake” in order to attempt to wear down others into enabling them-including being in denial about their addiction (e.g., “Stop trying to convince everybody that Rose is addicted to drugs.”) and providing them with substances to which they have an addiction (e.g., “Stefania has some kind of condition that the doctors won’t diagnose…I had to go to a doctor with a suspended license to get medical marijuana, and the medical board suspended him because the pharmaceutical industry doesn’t want patients using marijuana. They say, ‘George, you’re killing your wife.’ Her pain’s killing her-I’m just trying to make it better and keep my sanity. She causes me headaches if I don’t get her marijuana for her.”).
I had a mess with hysterectomy / abdominal surgery and all the Ob wants to do is prescribed meds instead of figuring out what he messed up on and how to fix it because the other surgeon said he messed up so now my life is changed forever because no one who can fix me.
Anyone wondering why the police weren’t called on her? She technically committed fraud by falsifying her name to receive prescription drugs and then just walks free AFTER knowing everything?…
pain management can work. There are definitely many cases of people who were on a large number of pills a day who slowly dropped their dose so their tolerance was reduced. Then it would coupled with other activities to increase muscle strength and flexibility as well as the perception of pain. It doesn't work for everyone and it does take time though and some people aren't that patient.
Saw this EVERY Friday afternoon right before the clinic was closing when I worked there as a medical assistant. We would have to pull patients name from the states database. 9 times out of 10, they were shopping a different clinic for pain killers
I required painkillers for a couple of years. It was for a degenerative bone disease connected to another condition. I had to get opioids because it was the only thing that worked. It was not fun when the doctors said no to painkillers at the hospital. I specifically asked them to do a hip and pelvis X ray. They quickly changed their minds once the X rays came back as the damage was really extensive as my hip was badly eaten away by arthritis. I was on a few steroids too. I never got a metal hip replacement instead my doctor did something radical by taking donor bone and layering it over my existing hip it created a brand new hip. It fixed me right up and with some physical therapy I was back walking in much less time than traditional total hip replacement.
10/10 Pain level, how the he is she still talking. The only time I’ve ever had a 10/10 pain experience I had to be put out being I couldn’t stop screaming.
Under-presctiption is what's makes people go from Vicodin to Heroin. Over-prescription can lead to some diversion. The U.S. is attempting to fight an "opioid epidemic" by not prescribing and it's causing more problems than it's fixing. The only thing I can get for my pain is Buprenorphine. It's safer, but it doesn't help as much as a full-agonist. Most people are forced to take copious amounts of Naproxen, causing gastrointestinal issues that last a lifetime. Those of us who are allergic to NSAIDS have 3 options: Steroids, Partial-agonists, or surgery, which can cause further issues and still require the use of opiates.
I've got pain problems and I hope they don't try something stupid. I already know I can't exceed the label on Naproxen; doctor tried prescribing a double dose and I got sick.
I was on norco 10mg every 4 hours up to 80mg a day ovr 120 of them for 5 months for a hairline fracture on my elbow! Straight geeked noddin it was the best!
This episode is absolutely disgusting from the perspective of someone like me. Someone who had a major spinal injury at age 20 that wasn't treated properly due to medical gaslighting and sexism. I developed the most painful condition in all of known medicine called CRPS/RSD, degenerative disc disease, broken vertebrae that healed wrong, and major nerve damage. Couldn't walk for 3 years because it was so painful. The pain was so bad I couldn't keep any food down so I dropped to 80 pounds and the stomach acid from throwing up all the time crumbled my teeth. Since age 23 I've been on high doses of opioid painkillers. It's given me my life back. I would've ended my life if I hadn't found my amazing pain specialist. Just because you are physically dependent on a medication does not make you an addict.
When the 5 min video goes over your head lmao 😂 if you needa lie to get drugs then that person is the disgusting one not to mention this privilege white lady was being racist asf from the beginning which wasn't helping her at all
@@chloemariestrudel1311because us legit pain patients are treated like addicts because of people like this. There are people who are terminal and being told they don't want them to become addicted 🙄. Drs often lump legit pain patients with drug addicts. But don't worry one day you will find out if you ever need surgery or get old and break a hip.
So, I know being a lawyer might have given her a little knowledge, but the fact she knew right away what the meds were and what kind she wanted made me raise a brow.
They needlessly made her cartoonishly vile. There is an important point to be made here beyond "anyone can be an addict", specific to addiction to medical drugs. The surgery indicates that she had, and possibly/probably has, a genuine pain problem, that became a pain management problem, that became addiction. But the addictiveness of drugs aren't the only thing that got her to this point; her not be able to make time in her life for physio also contributed. In this character's life, it's because of a job, in another person's life it might be child or elder care. Or they could have the time but not the money for or access to physio. I'm only an expert on my own pain, but my understanding of a case like this is that, ideally, after her op, they would have still been giving pain meds, while getting her started on physio. While starting on physio or once it was well established, they could try weaning her off the narcotics. For a patient at this point, in pain and addicted to their medication, the legal problem might be her "frequent flyer status", but the medical one more complex.
They have other were the person becomes addicted and they are sympathetic with her, even help her to keep her child. So you have a very important point but in general they seem to be balanced.
Some people with addictions learn to manipulate and strongarm in order to attempt to get their fix, and addiction can affect people to either become like “Nora Blake” or end up being worse than they already were.
I know that this isn't the situation we are currently in now but let's say maybe 15 years ago, doctors would give you a prescription of pain killers for the craziest reasons. Example: one time I went to the ER due to abdominal pain but it was not severe, and mainly I went to the ED cuz I have a chronic medical condition and I wanted to make sure I didn't have some sort of infection. When I got discharged, I was given 2 prescriptions. 1 for antibiotics and the other one for pain meds and I told the doctor I didn't want the pain med prescription BUT he insisted so bad to the point that he just wouldn't let me go without it. I literally told him that I did not want it like 5 times but he just wouldn't take no for an answer so at the wnd I did leave with those 2 prescriptions.. there's another time that I saw my doctor for a minor thing and can't remember but it was something simple like a headache of for a UTI and once again got another prescription for norco and gave me 60 pills.. I didn't understand back then much about this but yea it was bad.
I feel like with pain and addiction, we have to weigh the pros and cons. Pain is debilitating and opioids are often the best at managing many kinds of pain. Perhaps what we should be doing is putting chronic pain patients with addiction specialist, alternative pain management therapies, and therapists instead of cutting them off cold turkey. All that does is make them turn to the streets where they'll get addicted to worse drugs. And research shows that addicts that go through 100% restriction are far more likely to relapse than use in moderation.
I think that's what they wanted to do here. Get her into therapy- they would probably wean her off the drugs or at least get her on a lower dose and into a mindset where she didn't think I need drugs to not be in pain.
Omg...least fav part of my job.... Are the ones who are pain med seekers. They make my job as a PT a lot harder, and frustrating. And though I have empathy, it is very frustrating, and when they know the special testing, diagnosis signs and symptoms, reactions to testing, and certain actions..yes with generalities to throw in the mix to make you feel like they are being truthful. And do not think for a moment that because of my skin color I am exempt either. It does not matter I have a Dr. In front of my name, but they shall think I may be seeking more then just Tylenol at times...
Yeah, except when people are in serious pain you should have more than frustrated empathy. Pain ruins people life as much as an critical injury. Lost a friend to it because he though his life would only be that, never had an addition, just pain. That he couldn’t imagine living with for the rest of his life. I have endo myself and it has made me wish simpler things in my darkest moments-had a doctor question me over the medication I asked for and I have never wanted to die more than in that moment, at the idea that they would rather sit and watch me withering than help. Because if there was a better way then I’d have asked for it.
It's so sad doctors like you are the ones who got people addicted in the first place!! What you all did was so bad and you expect all problems solved now just don't prescribe them anymore. So guess what I blame YOU God complex doctors for the crisis now!
People who are opioid/ heroin addicts started off taking painkillers from a surgery that you would 100% need them for (like spinal). But some get addicted just like that and it all goes downhill from their.
So my elderly neighbour was diagnosed with cancer about 10 years ago, she went through chemotherapy and eventually beat it 💪 However she ended up addicted to morphine because she had to take it for so long, she slowly weined herself from it. I'll never forget her telling me she has more sympathy for people addicted to drugs because of that. She is an absolute warrior to me 💖💖
If they worked as hard as they did to solve her medical problems instead of turning themselves into detectives, she might not need so much medication. I know in the scene that she is obviously drug seeking, but I hate to think of how many people are in actual pain and need it to stop, and come across doctors who immediately start up this behavior. I pinched a nerve one day and I went to the walk-in clinic. I had never felt pain like that before and I really wanted something to take the edge off. The doctor was immediately suspicious for no reason at all and gave me a dose so low that it did practically nothing. That is a very scary attitude to encounter when you need genuine help.
But unfortunately when you hear about the fentanyl pandemic in the US, and we in Europe we have other opioid meds, that cause severe withdrawal syndrome, there is room for doubts about giving strong pain relief.
They were referring her to a pain management specialist to shift her dependence on opioids. Her pain is real. Her addiction not intentional. Which is true for so many people. I worked in addiction recovery for 6 years and opioid addiction typically starts with legitimate need/prescription but then shifts into a physiological dependence. It sucks. Addiction has so much shame tied to it, it makes recovery more difficult than it needs to be.
"If they worked as hard as they did to solve her medical problems instead of turning themselves into detectives, she might not need so much medication." you have not much experience with addiction, do you? she'll always need as much, even more.
I had a case of De Quervain's tenosynovitis once, it hurt everytime I tried to move my wrists. The pain medication helped a little, but I only felt real relief after some physiotherapy. Your doctor should have probably just given you a referral.
If nothing else, this perfectly illustrates just how stressful life has become in recent years. We shouldn't have to be medicated just to get from day to day.
Pain is subjective, and if it's "the worst pain the patient ever felt" it could be THEIR 10/10. Also, the pain scale should primarily be used to document if the pain gets better or worse over time, not used as a diagnostic tool. Some people have 8/10 stubbed toes, some have 4/10 heart attacks. It's not fair to judge or belittle patients on their own personal interpretation of something as subjective as pain.
@@whiteravenkpopfan No. If you are doubled over in pain and vomiting from your stubbed toe, then it's a 10/10 stubbed toe. If you're calmly having a conversation and are only slightly uncomfortable by all outside measure, you are not a 10/10. It's not belittling them on their personal objective report, it's making a medical judgment on based on other observable (and some reported) objective factors.
@@DblOSmith Like I said, the pain scale should be used primarily to document whether pain gets better or worse over time. Not a diagnostic tool. When a patient is sitting calmly and says it's 10/10 I have to understand that they may not present the same way I do with 10/10. Look, I get it, you want to roll your eyes at the person saying "10/10" while sitting calmly. I get it. But I also understand that if that IS the worse pain they have ever felt, it might be THEIR 10/10. I've met people who were a 4/10 having a STEMI. I've met people who were having a 10/10 endometriosis flare-up so bad they were too exhausted to scream in pain. Pain is subjective. Pain response varies from person to person. I get you might want to roll your eyes at some patients, but it's not always our place to judge. Are their people who are malignant drug-seekers? Yes. Are there also people who deal with conditions such as chronic pain who are so accustomed to their pain that they can have a sit-down conversation at THEIR 10/10? Also yes.
@@whiteravenkpopfan I've been doing pain assessments in various evaluations for 15 years. You're not telling me anything I don't know. We should get together and get a drink sometime. Sounds like you might work in the field too. I'm sure we both have some interesting stories. Let's talk.
Pain is entirely subjective, not to mention that people don't always present external symptoms. For example, my Father herniatied his L6 a few years ago, and was in horrific pain whenever he was moving around, but when he was sitting down, he was able to handle the pain better. Some people also live in constant pain, my Mother was in a catastrophic car accident that broke nearly every bone in her body, had osteoarthritis, and was going through Chemotherapy/radiation. I never once saw her wince or cry out in pain. Not once during the entire time I knew her did she do so much as a grunt. Yet, whenever I took her to a doctor, she always said she had a '10' for pain.
I’ve been to ER twice in the last two years (clumsy). The nurses always look relieved when I only want Tylenol. (BTW actually had the same surgery as this woman. Had non opioids for only 7 days.)
Anyone whose in chronic pain honestly knows never use your 10 unless you think you're gonna die...also you can't boss around doctors like that...I have chronic pancreatitis and doctors view me as a drug seeker UNTIL they look at my file.. people like this are the reason people like me get overlooked .
I too have auto immune diseases that cause chronic pain. Without pain meds my life is miserable and I'm nonfunctional. Pain meds give me a quality of life I wouldn't have without them.
My mom takes lots of medicines, but she is NOT an addict. She was in a major car accident in her teens, got roadhouse-kicked by my father’s horses a little while after giving birth to me, and suffered an intestinal puncture because someone was an idiot while doing their job, IN THAT ORDER SINCE THE 1970s. And those are the three that immediately come to mind. There is also the small side note that all her children including myself were C-section kids. In her words, the pain she suffers would make me curl up on the ground and cry. And the new doctors who give her her prescriptions are trying the same BS they tried 20 years ago: injections in the spinal column, physical therapy, and THEN medicine. SHE IS ON THE RECORD AS DESPERATELY NEEDING THOSE PAINKILLERS TO STAY A FUNCTIONING WOMAN! I’ve seen her in legit pain when she has been without the meds, and it is heartbreaking.
For some yes it's an addition for others like myself getting out of bed to take a shower is so painful I can't describe it. And I had 4 kids naturally no pain meds. I'm on steroid therapy for my knee and I have no thyroid. I gained weight. Trust me if I have 700 calories in a day that is a big day. Doctors need to stop lumping everyone into one pit
People like this is why I'm scared to go in for scoliosis pain. (L1- L4. 7° curve) I make sure to emphasize no opioid pills because I don't want to be looked at as a seeker. I'm a POC so the odds are stacked against me.
My god,you poc are such bullshiters You re always the victim,aren t you? I thought the opiods crisis is a "white people" situation as you claimed to be
The odds aren't stacked against you, no matter your skin color. They're stacked against everyone because of a small minority of pill-junkies who do the circuit at Hospitals and Doctors Offices specifically looking for pills.
She must not have wanted those meds that badly, considering the when the MRI was brought up her chief complaint was the "low grade muscle relaxers" they were going to prescribe. I mean that elevated her from "drug seeking behavior" to just "drug seeking" full blown
thing about addicts is their fear of being honest about their addiction stems from shame caused by the judgement they get from society. so next time you see an addict, dont judge them. instead think of what couldve caused it.
I kinda agree with the lady,She has an injury, she has pain, she works hard in a good job and pays insurance. Labelling her a drug seeker might force her to start using harder drugs and loose her job and become a bum. The fear of creating an addict sometimes prevents a doctor from helping someone in pain.
as soon as i heard lumbago mentioned. an old uncle came to mind. i remember him saying "I'm real sick, John. Lumbago. It's a slow and painful death, my brother." his death wasn't slow, but wasn't nice. he got shot on a porch by the military. rip uncle
Frequent flier... Same thing they called me after malpractice broke my jaw and 4 teeth, and again when i could have found the cancer early enough. Fkin get that right, except that the patient doesnt get respect or benefit of the doubt
This isn't just ordinary pain meds she is seeking but opioids. I implore you all to research oxycontin, fentanyl etc....the US is going through a opioid crisis. Opioids affecting every level of society.
Let the addicts weed themselves out. I'm honestly Sick and Tired of people in genuine pain being punished, and labeled as addicts, because of a minority of pill junkies. Let them eat opiates. They'll either work through it themselves, or OD. Either way, the problem will fix itself.
As one who has bad knees and back muscles and nerves and spine i know how the medical world in many ways screws people who have chronic pain and how the medical world looks at us who are in chronic pain even with nerve pain killers muscle relaxers and a med used primarily for diabetic neuropathy and another med that is for anxiety which has a side effect of nerve pain relief a anti-inflammatory gel or over the counter anti-inflammatory and pain killer combo im still in enough pain that it's hard to get out of bed in the morning and at other times unable to get out of bed without having someone help me there's many drs that even after seeing my medical records still think I'm a frequent flyer even though I don't even ask for opiod pain meds drs do need to have a training course for dealing with people in my situation
People would be shocked if they knew just how many picture perfect moms are actually full blown addicts. Many addicts do not look like the stereotypical version that is most commonly shown in films/tv.
In the 50s, the doctors would prescribe speed to house wives to they keep up with the demanding house work.
@@Midnight0Mistress Yea it’s so wild to think about the stuff that doctors used to prescribe back then. I remember seeing a post that had a photo of a very very old “prescription” given by the doctor (I think for a sore throat or something, but I’m not for certain) and it contained whiskey and cocaine!
@@miranda13c not even that far “back then”. Think of the opiates problem in the 90s by Perdue
I was addicted for ten years to painkillers, no one would help me because i wasn’t shooting up heroin. One lady in a treatment facility actually told me to please my arm with a needle before appointment. Luckily I found an amazing doctor who didn’t give up on me. That was 12 years ago and I’ve been sober since. Opioids are so freaking addictive you would do anything to not feel withdrawn. I’m really happy now there’re so many different treatments. It could truly happen to anyone.
You hit the nail right on the head. And because doctors and pharmacists have envisioned in their head what an addict is “supposed to look like,” there are so many people who do not get proper pain management simply because they are being profiled.
I don't think being racist in front of a black man and an asian man is going to help you dear
I thought she doesn’t want a medical student, she wants a real doctor?
@@ambertheartist it was when she started saying she was more important than the mexican man 😭
@@mitskigf Oh, I missed it. Thanks.
@@ambertheartist no problem!!!
@@ambertheartist watch from 4:45. Not only what she says but her face saying it. It kinda makes you wanna punch her
"I'm a lawyer. I have great insurance"... while violating the False Claims Act.
You know, if Dr. Choi sends a note to her insurance company that she is abusing drugs, they could cancel her drug plan. Insurance companies don't like it when you get prescriptions you don't need because it's more money they're paying out for the same price that you're paying. I find it hilarious that she sits here and says that she's a lawyer while she breaks the law. She's not a very good lawyer.
I mean if she’s actually a lawyer then she would know that she just committed fraud 😅. By giving a false name to medical staff to obtain prescription drugs, her lawsuit would be thrown out at best (at worst she faces legal or career consequences)
At that point in your addiction you don't care.
When addicted, common sense flies out the door
Aside from bein an addict - this episode is another perfect example of chicagos writers being braindead an hollywoodified
She sued and got the guy in prison who she complained about and got her prescription.
The writers of this show have explosive diarrhea once per episode because they cant be bothered to write a logical script
I'm not gonna call addicts "stupid" because they can be pretty clever.
I will call addicts "clouded" though, in that their cravings and pains due to said cravings tend to overwrite a clear judgment and common sense... you wouldn't believe some of the reasonings they have sometimes given me during detox and rehab
@@maxi1ification it's true, addicts can come up with some stories... when an addict wants their pills, drugs, etc they will stop at NOTHING. It's crazy what a bottle of those pills will do to a normal and nice person...
Isn't it a crime to use a false name, in order to obtain prescription medicines?
i think the name has to be stolen from someone else for it to be a crime but im not american so idk their laws
Yes, it is. Using a fake name is considered fraud in the US, especially to obtain prescription drugs illegally.
@@Tacobunny46 Using a different name in the US is okay as long as you don't use it in the commission of a crime.
@@NortelGeek Thank you for letting me know! US law can be so confusing sometimes
@@Tacobunny46 Sure thing! And yes, law here can be confusing, especially when it's a state vs. federal law. Have you seen some of the weird state laws, like in Alabama, where it's illegal to wear denim on one certain street in one certain city? Or in Tennessee, where you cannot wear a wig to church that may cause fright? Kind of hilarious. 😂
Dr. Choi's -firm- stone-cold "No." is so underratedly badass.
Omg yes 🔥🔥
He's handsome too.
Thing is, he’s saying no to a drug addict. The screaming “I’m a lawyer” bit is testimony to that, and he took it to mean that. Good diagnosis.
The confidence when he asked his boss was also badass.
He's so freaking awesome. You could she was expecting him to crumble under the weight of her hysterics and threats. His straight, flat-out "no" showed her that he means business. He's just so awesome.
For anyone curious, she proceeded to file a formal complaint about the 'Mexican' next door and he was arrested on hospital property. It was absolutely heart breaking. The 'fight' they had was because the brother was scared to donate stem cells to his sister and be identified by the feds and deported (his wife is also pregnant). Her husband obviously got mad and shoved him. He eventually came around to decide to donate and then his worst fear was realized because of this awful woman. They didn't say for sure, but I believe she also got the boss doctor to give her the meds, as when she was leaving she was very calm and seemed pleased with herself.
Thank God I didn't look this episode up to watch it . Thank you for sharing this
What a disgusting woman.
What a Karen. She is not like "some dug addicts on the street" as she described. She is worse.
Karen in all her glory
What a monster
I love how the Psych Doc is always just around
There's usually one on call at large hospitals
@@m64h yeah I get that, it's just that it's the same character every time, like the dude lives in the hospital and conveniently just hovers around hahahah
He's the main character so he's gotta be lol.
I swear Dr Charles is the Yoda of Chicago Med. 😁
Most EDs have a psychiatrist hanging around.
It's always one of the hardest jobs of a medical proffesional to separate pain from drug seeking. Pain is a very personal and subjective experience and there's no real empirical way to measure pain.
Severe pain can even be entirely psychosomatic. There's a semi famous tale of a man whom had shot himself in the foot with a nail gun on accident. The whole ride to the hospital in the ambulance he was screaming in pain. When they get to the hospital the boot is cut off, and the nail falls to the floor with a clink. It has gone between his toes, missing his foot entirely. The worker swears on his life that he felt immense pain that disappeared as soon as he realized there was no injury.
It's possible this woman is in pain, but she's in pain because she expects to be in pain without her medication.
This show did show a similar case. Where a woman was itching so bad that she went right to the skull. She did take some medicine a while ago that did cause her to itch, but that wasn't causing it. Cause she didn't take them for a while. But she was itching for so long that her brain was wired to think that there was a cause to itch on her head
That's crazy
There's nothing that destroys your trust in medical science as much as when you're denied pain relief while in severe pain. Watching someone downplay your symptoms right in front of you causes boundless frustration.
You’re right. Opioid addicts will absolutely believe they are in extreme pain whenever they’re going thru withdraw, even addicts who never had any prior pain and only abused the drug for its high. One guy I know who was an opioid addict got clean and he said it took him about a year after detox for this type of pain to really stop. I’d imagine it’s even worse if you’re someone who truly does have pain and becomes addicted to painkillers.
Edit: when I say they “believe it,” I understand they’re really feeling this pain. I didn’t word that part very well.
@@virgie4715 I know someone who is in pain every day and refuses to take any pain killers, even Tylenol or ibuprofen because he doesn’t want to become addicted or dependent on meds to get through a day.
These shorts definitely making me addicted to the story .
addiction comes in in all forms haha
Lmao me too 😭
This is more common than people think. My ex husband injured his back. He got addicted to the pain killers. And when he got cut off the pain pills, he moved onto cocaine and Fentanyl (I think I spelled it wrong) he has been to the hospital over 5 times for drug overdose. It is truly sad to see how many people are on drugs.
It’s truly sad that the poor choices of dumbasses stop people from getting the help they need.
yep. my dad was in construction and in 2012 he fell off a roof and injured his back and the doc kept prescribing pain pills when they weren’t needed and when he got cut off he was already addicted and moved onto heroin and whatever else. in 2016 he passed away from an enlarged heart and possible overdose. never knew for sure which but even if it wasn’t an overdose his heart would of not been able to take the pressure anymore. it happens so much more than we think and it’s all about money. unfortunately.
let me guess america?
I mean... I get it. I have some minor aches all over my body, basically constant tooth aches etc. With the minor pain killers, like Ibuprofen, I usually need a double-dosis to even feel it, dunno why.
When I got my wisdome teeth removed, I was on painkillers for a whole week, so basically two Ibus-600 every what, four hours? It was such a bliss, really relaxing. After a few days though I noticed that I had a huge bruise on my arm. Must have hit it somewhere rather hard, didn't feel a thing. Since then I've became more caucious and I also try to stay clear from any bigger medication...can't really trust myself with it until it is absolutely necessary
I went through two of the worst years of my life dealing with endometriosis, they never wanted to give me anything more than ibuprofen. I got to the point where I stopped going for help. Lucky for me I’m not an addict but people do have pain and it sucks when we’re not believed but some are and they simply have an addiction.
There's an episode similar to this btw. It's not that her pain isn't believed but because she displayed behaviors consistent with pain med seeking. You probably never used a fake name, or demanded to sue a doctor.
Me with my menstrual cramps
I have endometriosis and this same thing has happened to me so many times. There is a balance between helping patients who really are sick and in pain and not overprescribing. I wish doctors would really think about these decisions more, especially ER doctors. I have been dismissed so many times before and finally had surgery and then found out that if I had been listened to I wouldn’t have had to risk sepsis from a ruptured endometriosis lesion.
@@sydneybarnett6806 I completely understand. Sorry about what you’ve been through. I definitely know how hard it is! I know you’re a warrior like me lol 💛
Black people are the least believed when it comes to pain levels. I have a friend with endometriosis and she didn't get her diagnosis until she was 30 because they didn't believe her pain was real or that she was exaggerating her cramps.
my mom was kind of addicted to pain meds as well. She'd use them for migraines and they were "the only thing that would work" She took some so strong she (thank god) developed an allergy to it and (thank god!!) it happened while she was having a procedure at the hospital.
Now she can't take any anymore and since she wasn't too deeply addicted she didn't have to go through withdrawal. These things mess with your head, don't take them if you can avoid it and if you cannot, I hope you get better soon :(
I've suffered from chronic migraines since i was maybe 4/5yrs old (now i am a mum of a 20yr old boy). Sadly, for the most part because there is no "wound" to see; many pple will think you are making up stories when you say "..because it is the one thing which gives me relief...". I violently throw up when i have an attack, till I am heaving coz even bile is all out of my body, my eyes get swollen shut and the left side of my body jus feels like a rag doll. Least we forget heightened sense of smell and hearing and light sensitivity. Everything is just torturing you and sometimes an attack goes on for a few days. And because of throwing up you get dehydrated quickly and then it becomes a cycle of you are dehydrated coz you are unwell but now you are worse because you are dehydrated. You are just so desperate for it to just pause even for a second so you can at least fall asleep. Migraines are a different type of torture. I understand your mum. Completely. Glad she is doing well.
Could tell she was faking when she tried to say her back "locked up" . . . she could still move multiple parts of her back just fine and lifted/rested her torso on the bed. Body language is always important.
"I'll sue you and this entire emergancy room!"
Fine, I'm sure the court would love to hear how you gave a fake name while demanding a refill of meds. This would look great on your law firm's site's profile.
And considering that she's using a fake name, it's obvious that she's been flagged as a frequent flyer as Brenna McDouglas. But hospitals are terrified of being sued because not only do they have to spend money to deal with it, they also have to take time out of doctors' days to go to court. A lot of times it's just easier for them to give in. Although I think this one should've went before an Ethics board. This is a catch-22. If they don't give her the meds, she sues. And if they do, she could OD and they'd be on the hook for negligent homicide. I don't like Dr. Lanik. He gives in too easily.
It's always the ones who don't need the painkillers that get them but the ones who truly need them cannot
When in doubt, go to Dr. Charles
As a person who lives with severe chronic pain it can be very frustrating when docs immediately try to treat you like an addict without even really knowing your situation. I’m lucky that my team has worked really hard to make sure my situation is clearly explained in my chart. When I go in for breakthrough pain then it’s very bad because I hate being at the hospital. I do everything I can to manage my situation at home. I’m blessed to have a great pain doc that knows when narcotics are necessary. So many pain clinics are refusing to even give people narcotic pain relief, even after all other types of management have been exhausted. My pain is in my abdomen from intestinal failure and all the adhesions that I have from so many surgeries. I can’t be treated with steroid injections or other treatments for back or other joint pain. I can’t take NSAIDs because I get bad stomach bleeds. There are people who do need narcotic pain relief and shouldn’t be shamed because of it. And, there are times when addicts deal with real pain, there can’t be a blanket ban on pain medication because every case is unique. The thing that most people don’t understand in the war on opioids is that by refusing to give pain control to those who really need it is just punishing them, making them desperate. I’ve known people who have turned to trying to get drugs from the street because their pain docs suddenly quit prescribing the meds they had been on for long time. The fact is that if someone wants drugs they can find them in the street, most addicts don’t waste their time going to emergency rooms because they know they can’t score, they only go there when they don’t have the money for their dealer. It’s a tragic situation all around, I just hate when people with serious medical conditions are treated like drug seekers.
depends were you live and what the drug of choice is,
She gave a fake name to get drugs that's aa big red 🚩
I was thinking exactly that -- I don't suffer from severe chronic pain, but I know a few people who do and terribly suffer from the doctors' assumption that taking meds makes them addicts instead of simply people in need of pain relief. The woman in this episode is extremely unpleasant and downright racist, but there's no actual indication that her pain is faked. They immediately deduced that she became an addict but doesn't suffer anymore, but what if she does? If her regular doctors decided that she was faking it and was "just" an addict, it's totally plausible that she'd go as far as assuming a fake identity to get the pain relief she needs. Pain can make you desperate. This case doesn't strike me as being as clear cut as Dr. Choi thinks it is. Before they sent her to an addiction specialist, they should send her to a pain specialist who can evaluate the amount of pain she is in (if any) and what to do about it.
This obsession with addiction only manages to further harm people who need pain meds. Doctors seem to think that the point is to find the littlest amount of meds necessary when the actual point, for patients with chronic pain, should be to diminish or erase the pain as much as you can -- while avoiding harmful secondary effects as much as possible, if it's feasible. The point is the patient's well-being; not the doctor's self-righteous morals.
Stop projecting, it’s a show.
Are you really pretending this country isn’t dealing with an active “OPIOD crisis” because middle age white women abused their prescriptions? Junkies in middle America.
Addicts can have actual pain too. I get the point but it's tiring as someone with chronic pain who's been dismissed for 10 freaking years. You know what happens when your pain isn't believed and you end up 90lbs? You do drugs.
They did give her meds when she was curled up and looked like she was in pain. It’s just hard to do so when she looks comfortable standing, giving a fake name and demanding a specific name and dosage of a pain medication.
She wasn't ignored, though, sounded like she'd been through this act before and always threw in the Lawyer part so someone would cave out of fear she was true to her words or she was getting meds off the street, maybe both. She seems fine though when they confront her and she confesses but of course with one more last-ditch effort of manipulation using the patient in the next room as a scapegoat.
I agree whole heartedly that addicts have pain but giving them the meds isn't the right choice either. Because is it really helping the pain or just feeding the habit?
They believed her that she was in pain. Her CT supported her injury was degeneragive. That's why they were talking to her about alternative pain management strategies.
The truth is that alot of addicts became that way because their pain and symptoms are very real and they're prescribed opiods right off the back. The issue is that opiods change your very brain structure to make you crave them. You end up believing that the only way to live pain-free is with those opiods.
And even if you get to the point to where you're mostly healed and can be weaned off the drug and go through PT to work through the remaining (far less severe) pain you don't want to. You've conditioned your brain to think pain = medicine. So you don't let yourself live with any pain, even the healthy pain of muscle regrowth, etc.
Not giving patients with chronic pain drugs causes them to self-medicate. But giving patients with chronic pain opiods just extends the opiod crisis. It's a complex situstion that the medical field is still trying to navigate.
have u tried changing your diet? i know going plant based or going on a food elimination diet (no gluten, soy, dairy, sugar) has cured people of chronic pain, lupus , athritis and fibromyalgia
@@charlottevo5726 This is a farce. Vegan diets completely mess up your nutrition, vitamin levels, etc. It also will throw off your iron, leading to more body aches.
People who go vegan and feel better, I'm happy for, but it's not going to help everyone and not by a long shot.
I despise the idea that Opiates are evil, they *help* people, and Chronic pain, especially from Lupus, Arthiritis and Fibromyalgia, can't be magically cured by a diet change.
How do I know this? Fibromyalgia is a neurological condition, and Arthiritis/Lupus are autoimmune. They're chronic conditions that only are 'cured' in a thousandth of a percent of cases.
It's not the business of a doctor to tell someone who has a history of chronic pain to go get 'addiction treatment'. The very 'pill seeking behaviors' that the Obama Administration's CDC/FDA ordered docs to look out for are exactly the same as the behaviors of someone in severe pain that can't find relief.
But what do I know, I've only done extensive research on the relationship between autoimmune conditions, and nutrition.
As someone with chronic pain and chronic illness, I can't tell you how many times I've asked if there was something stronger than Motrin that was non narcotic. I ended up with a hole in my stomach from taking too many nsaids. Tylenol does nothing, and even narco only helps for an hour or so.
After years of pt, infusions in my spine, etc, I just deal with the pain and hope it ends now.
Sorry to hear about your struggles. That's one more terrible thing I hear about NSAIDs. I avoid them like the plague since I have ulcerative colitis anyway, and I know someone who got lung scarring from them due to taking them for a while after a car accident. I can see why people would opt for the narcotic route.
This sucks because as someone with real pain this belief really can create issues for real pain patients.
Yup tell me about it
I have been suffering chronic pain for a lot of years now and when I tried going to hospital for some relief after days of pain I was told I might be going thru withdrawal from my pain medication(this was 3 WEEKS after my medication ran out and my doctor was on holiday) they couldn't do anything and referred me to a rehab clinic
Ffs I am in my late 60's, was recovering from neck surgery from a month before and could barely move
I fractured my pelvis in 3 places and was only given Motrin
@@jamiewright4804 ouch!!!
And Motrin for a fractured pelvis?
That's like baby aspirin for for a migraine
Racist lawyer in an ER could make things interesting to some places. Like the Bar.
"Oh Finally a real doctor"
That killed me inside Lmao
Pain reliever addict here. I am a 22 years old and I fell on my wrist when I was 16. I developed a cyst. Had 1 operation to remove it, but it came back. The pain, I am in constant pain since 6 years. It took me 4 years to be taken seriously because they say that "It's a cyst, it doesn't hurt, it's not supposed to hurt". But it does. Some day I can't even write. I was a paint artist but I f*cking can't to this anymore. I've been crying all day everyday, went to all sort of emergencies and clinic just so they can help me with the pain. Before it was only my wrist but now my shoulder is giving me a piece of work too. And that's how I discovered the pain relievers. I take them everyday to manage the pain. I've been on the waiting list to get it surgically removed again and I haven't been called since.
I'm very annoyed when I hear these stories because pain mappers are real things; even the chiropractor I went to had one. Use it already!
Actually believe it or not a pain in my wrist that I found out that my mom and my auntie have they want to claim is just carpal tunnel syndrome but I heard she kept complaining and complaining about it she wants to blame for her doing hair. I got the same problem and almost couldn't write but my mom blame for me though cuz I was lazy and I wasn't I was in severe pain talk about neglect
I honestly want to see the rest of this episode so bad.
try online websites that provide eps for free! i do that lol
Sometimes being out of pain is addictive
So that's when you send in Dr. Charles, she doesn't know who your boss is.
Wow 🤩 she’s a racist lawyer and she’s a suburban clean mom. Not some druggie off the streets, what a turn around world we live in right? Btw I love that Asian doctor he’s hot and professional
If you think Choi's hot, I totally recommend this episode. It opens with his exercise routine. All the eye candy to enjoy!
The Drift King will always be hot
hes fine af 🤷♂️
Honestly a lot of the actors playing the doctors in this show are fine
I have sickle cell disease and I can say I've been labeled as others also have gotten labeled which is ridiculous.
I only get my pain meds from my hematologist as far as my Roxy 15s & I've been with him since 2018. I don't get scripts from ERs or other physicians & I do my best to stick to 1 ER. I usually end up having to get admitted for a sickle cell crisis, IV meds & fluids plus a blood transfusion.
In March 2017 I was found unresponsive and was in a coma for 5 days because a physician simply wouldn't listen.
It sucks that the good have to suffer because of the bad. I've lost a ton of friends to this painful & unpredictable disease.
Currently in school for medical billing and coding.
I'm so sorry you struggle with Sickle Cell, and wholeheartedly agree that everyone else shouldn't be penalized because of the addicts.
I'm honestly callous when it comes to pill addicts. I say give them as many pills as they want. Not our business to police their intake, and it'll (sadly, but truthfully) weed itself out in a few generations.
@@AlyssMa7rin thank you so much for your kind words... it's very sad the good has to suffer for the bad & majority of time they are judging the wrong ones...
I don't even get prescriptions from anyone but my Hematologist who I have been with for over 6 years now.
I'm always amazed that people can get pain meds so easily, and so often. Even after surgeries, or being in so much pain I'm vomiting, I've never been prescribed anything other than prescription strength Motrin.
And this is why I have never once been prescribed pain meds for my chronic pain :)
Seriously though, I don't even like taking normal pain killers because I don't want to become reliant on them (not that they help). Besides just addiction, my sister developed an ulcer from too much ibuprofen. Never once have my doctor's suggested medication, and I'm glad of it.
Had to have my wisdom teeth removed. After surgery the dentist gave me hydrocodone for the pain. Honestly don't see what the big deal is, those pills just made me a bit drowsy.
@@zachscarbrough2727 Nah yeah, I totally agree with getting pain meds if you need them. But I'm in some kind of pain most of the time, and that's never really going to stop, so no one wants to put me on heavy pain killers for the rest of my life
@@zachscarbrough2727 I was given vicodin for the same thing. Wisdom teeth taken out. I only took them one or 2 times. I kept throwing up. It made me too dizzy and DID NOT take away my pain. I stopped taking them. I took the pain over throwing up. I was like oh he'll no! I'm not even eating and I'm throwing up. On top of that, still in pain. He'll nah!!! Same thing with Tylenol with codine. I had surgery and after I took Tylenol with codine, I kept throwing up. Nope. I was in agony for days, but I HATE feeling dizzy and throwing up WITH THE PASSION!
Yeah, I've got chronic pain as well and I'm genuinely terrified of becoming an addict. Thankfully my rheumatologist found me an anti inflammatory that manages to give me a few pain free hours most days and that is life changing. I'm also on another medication to prevent stomach ulcers and reflux but it's worth it.
She is kinda unbearable.. so rude and so fake (part of her role i guess)
Sadly, many people with addictions learn to be “unbearable…[and] so rude and so fake” in order to attempt to wear down others into enabling them-including being in denial about their addiction (e.g., “Stop trying to convince everybody that Rose is addicted to drugs.”) and providing them with substances to which they have an addiction (e.g., “Stefania has some kind of condition that the doctors won’t diagnose…I had to go to a doctor with a suspended license to get medical marijuana, and the medical board suspended him because the pharmaceutical industry doesn’t want patients using marijuana. They say, ‘George, you’re killing your wife.’ Her pain’s killing her-I’m just trying to make it better and keep my sanity. She causes me headaches if I don’t get her marijuana for her.”).
10 on the pain scale? Trust me, lucidity is optional past 8
That's true. Labour pain is about 8, and I was just barely in control of myself during two of them.
So the hospital doesn’t ask for ID when registering the patient?
not always in Emergency. Often that isn't possible.
I'm sorry they made light of chronic pain and the difficulty of getting anyone to help or believe you.
I had a mess with hysterectomy / abdominal surgery and all the Ob wants to do is prescribed meds instead of figuring out what he messed up on and how to fix it because the other surgeon said he messed up so now my life is changed forever because no one who can fix me.
Anyone wondering why the police weren’t called on her? She technically committed fraud by falsifying her name to receive prescription drugs and then just walks free AFTER knowing everything?…
Ikr why are they humouring her
Had a herniated disc…worst pain of my life. L5 S1 discectomy. Wouldn’t wish that nerve pain on my worst enemy!
"I will sue you and your entire emergency room!"
"Bet?"
Wish I could see how this ends.
oh she got away with it, scored her drugs cause she was white with a big name.
She walked out under her own steam with her prescription
I'm not an addict! I've tried everything! Pain management is a joke. I can barely get out of bed.
pain management can work. There are definitely many cases of people who were on a large number of pills a day who slowly dropped their dose so their tolerance was reduced. Then it would coupled with other activities to increase muscle strength and flexibility as well as the perception of pain. It doesn't work for everyone and it does take time though and some people aren't that patient.
Im glad the former drift king of tokyo found his new calling as a doctor on America
I see Freddie's mom is still just as crazy as ever
Yeah lol 😂😂
I wish I could see the rest of this episode
Saw this EVERY Friday afternoon right before the clinic was closing when I worked there as a medical assistant. We would have to pull patients name from the states database. 9 times out of 10, they were shopping a different clinic for pain killers
She got her pills and got an innocent man, and 1st time expecting father, deported. 🙄🙄🤦♀️🤬🤬🤬
I required painkillers for a couple of years. It was for a degenerative bone disease connected to another condition. I had to get opioids because it was the only thing that worked. It was not fun when the doctors said no to painkillers at the hospital. I specifically asked them to do a hip and pelvis X ray. They quickly changed their minds once the X rays came back as the damage was really extensive as my hip was badly eaten away by arthritis. I was on a few steroids too. I never got a metal hip replacement instead my doctor did something radical by taking donor bone and layering it over my existing hip it created a brand new hip. It fixed me right up and with some physical therapy I was back walking in much less time than traditional total hip replacement.
This hits close to home for me my mother was a addicted to prescription painkillers. She had spinal stenosis but the pills made it worser than it was
10/10 Pain level, how the he is she still talking. The only time I’ve ever had a 10/10 pain experience I had to be put out being I couldn’t stop screaming.
Same 100%.
Under-presctiption is what's makes people go from Vicodin to Heroin.
Over-prescription can lead to some diversion.
The U.S. is attempting to fight an "opioid epidemic" by not prescribing and it's causing more problems than it's fixing. The only thing I can get for my pain is Buprenorphine. It's safer, but it doesn't help as much as a full-agonist. Most people are forced to take copious amounts of Naproxen, causing gastrointestinal issues that last a lifetime. Those of us who are allergic to NSAIDS have 3 options: Steroids, Partial-agonists, or surgery, which can cause further issues and still require the use of opiates.
I've got pain problems and I hope they don't try something stupid. I already know I can't exceed the label on Naproxen; doctor tried prescribing a double dose and I got sick.
I was on norco 10mg every 4 hours up to 80mg a day ovr 120 of them for 5 months for a hairline fracture on my elbow! Straight geeked noddin it was the best!
People like this make it difficult, or impossible, for real patients in need to get help.
5:15 if only he could say ‘I am the boss’
I want to see how this ended up honestly...
This episode is absolutely disgusting from the perspective of someone like me. Someone who had a major spinal injury at age 20 that wasn't treated properly due to medical gaslighting and sexism.
I developed the most painful condition in all of known medicine called CRPS/RSD, degenerative disc disease, broken vertebrae that healed wrong, and major nerve damage. Couldn't walk for 3 years because it was so painful. The pain was so bad I couldn't keep any food down so I dropped to 80 pounds and the stomach acid from throwing up all the time crumbled my teeth.
Since age 23 I've been on high doses of opioid painkillers. It's given me my life back. I would've ended my life if I hadn't found my amazing pain specialist.
Just because you are physically dependent on a medication does not make you an addict.
The thing that makes her look like an addict is that she lied.
She was an addict tho, this just doesn’t apply to you….
When the 5 min video goes over your head lmao 😂 if you needa lie to get drugs then that person is the disgusting one not to mention this privilege white lady was being racist asf from the beginning which wasn't helping her at all
the way this doesn’t apply to you.. why are you so mad??
@@chloemariestrudel1311because us legit pain patients are treated like addicts because of people like this. There are people who are terminal and being told they don't want them to become addicted 🙄. Drs often lump legit pain patients with drug addicts. But don't worry one day you will find out if you ever need surgery or get old and break a hip.
Ms. Blake looks like the young Mrs. Benson from iCarly. Sounds like her, too. XD
😂 I thought it was her too!
So, I know being a lawyer might have given her a little knowledge, but the fact she knew right away what the meds were and what kind she wanted made me raise a brow.
It might be a fake name, what do we do??
Dr. House would just have Casey from chicago fire to search her purse.....
Or her house
"Huh." -- Dr. Charles before he blows yet another case wide open.
Sad person
They needlessly made her cartoonishly vile. There is an important point to be made here beyond "anyone can be an addict", specific to addiction to medical drugs. The surgery indicates that she had, and possibly/probably has, a genuine pain problem, that became a pain management problem, that became addiction. But the addictiveness of drugs aren't the only thing that got her to this point; her not be able to make time in her life for physio also contributed. In this character's life, it's because of a job, in another person's life it might be child or elder care. Or they could have the time but not the money for or access to physio.
I'm only an expert on my own pain, but my understanding of a case like this is that, ideally, after her op, they would have still been giving pain meds, while getting her started on physio. While starting on physio or once it was well established, they could try weaning her off the narcotics. For a patient at this point, in pain and addicted to their medication, the legal problem might be her "frequent flyer status", but the medical one more complex.
They have other were the person becomes addicted and they are sympathetic with her, even help her to keep her child. So you have a very important point but in general they seem to be balanced.
Some people with addictions learn to manipulate and strongarm in order to attempt to get their fix, and addiction can affect people to either become like “Nora Blake” or end up being worse than they already were.
I know that this isn't the situation we are currently in now but let's say maybe 15 years ago, doctors would give you a prescription of pain killers for the craziest reasons. Example: one time I went to the ER due to abdominal pain but it was not severe, and mainly I went to the ED cuz I have a chronic medical condition and I wanted to make sure I didn't have some sort of infection. When I got discharged, I was given 2 prescriptions. 1 for antibiotics and the other one for pain meds and I told the doctor I didn't want the pain med prescription BUT he insisted so bad to the point that he just wouldn't let me go without it. I literally told him that I did not want it like 5 times but he just wouldn't take no for an answer so at the wnd I did leave with those 2 prescriptions.. there's another time that I saw my doctor for a minor thing and can't remember but it was something simple like a headache of for a UTI and once again got another prescription for norco and gave me 60 pills.. I didn't understand back then much about this but yea it was bad.
Maybe it's just me, but I would not want a lawyer hooked on opioids and committing felonies to full her addiction to represent me in a court of law.
I feel like with pain and addiction, we have to weigh the pros and cons. Pain is debilitating and opioids are often the best at managing many kinds of pain. Perhaps what we should be doing is putting chronic pain patients with addiction specialist, alternative pain management therapies, and therapists instead of cutting them off cold turkey. All that does is make them turn to the streets where they'll get addicted to worse drugs.
And research shows that addicts that go through 100% restriction are far more likely to relapse than use in moderation.
that's why I take kratom
I think that's what they wanted to do here. Get her into therapy- they would probably wean her off the drugs or at least get her on a lower dose and into a mindset where she didn't think I need drugs to not be in pain.
Omg...least fav part of my job.... Are the ones who are pain med seekers. They make my job as a PT a lot harder, and frustrating. And though I have empathy, it is very frustrating, and when they know the special testing, diagnosis signs and symptoms, reactions to testing, and certain actions..yes with generalities to throw in the mix to make you feel like they are being truthful. And do not think for a moment that because of my skin color I am exempt either. It does not matter I have a Dr. In front of my name, but they shall think I may be seeking more then just Tylenol at times...
Yeah, except when people are in serious pain you should have more than frustrated empathy. Pain ruins people life as much as an critical injury. Lost a friend to it because he though his life would only be that, never had an addition, just pain. That he couldn’t imagine living with for the rest of his life.
I have endo myself and it has made me wish simpler things in my darkest moments-had a doctor question me over the medication I asked for and I have never wanted to die more than in that moment, at the idea that they would rather sit and watch me withering than help. Because if there was a better way then I’d have asked for it.
It's so sad doctors like you are the ones who got people addicted in the first place!! What you all did was so bad and you expect all problems solved now just don't prescribe them anymore. So guess what I blame YOU God complex doctors for the crisis now!
@@amandavasi1448 who are you talking to? I don't persceibe medication sir, ma'am other?
Our landlady is 75 and she's been on oxy for years, they took her off them and she had bad withdrawals
75? Just let her die in peace with the meds at this point.
Nobody who’s 10 out 10 is that coherent 😂
People who are opioid/ heroin addicts started off taking painkillers from a surgery that you would 100% need them for (like spinal). But some get addicted just like that and it all goes downhill from their.
2:16 didn't realize she was a doctor lawyer
So my elderly neighbour was diagnosed with cancer about 10 years ago, she went through chemotherapy and eventually beat it 💪
However she ended up addicted to morphine because she had to take it for so long, she slowly weined herself from it. I'll never forget her telling me she has more sympathy for people addicted to drugs because of that.
She is an absolute warrior to me 💖💖
If they worked as hard as they did to solve her medical problems instead of turning themselves into detectives, she might not need so much medication. I know in the scene that she is obviously drug seeking, but I hate to think of how many people are in actual pain and need it to stop, and come across doctors who immediately start up this behavior.
I pinched a nerve one day and I went to the walk-in clinic. I had never felt pain like that before and I really wanted something to take the edge off. The doctor was immediately suspicious for no reason at all and gave me a dose so low that it did practically nothing. That is a very scary attitude to encounter when you need genuine help.
But unfortunately when you hear about the fentanyl pandemic in the US, and we in Europe we have other opioid meds, that cause severe withdrawal syndrome, there is room for doubts about giving strong pain relief.
They were referring her to a pain management specialist to shift her dependence on opioids. Her pain is real. Her addiction not intentional. Which is true for so many people. I worked in addiction recovery for 6 years and opioid addiction typically starts with legitimate need/prescription but then shifts into a physiological dependence. It sucks. Addiction has so much shame tied to it, it makes recovery more difficult than it needs to be.
"If they worked as hard as they did to solve her medical problems instead of turning themselves into detectives, she might not need so much medication."
you have not much experience with addiction, do you? she'll always need as much, even more.
I had a case of De Quervain's tenosynovitis once, it hurt everytime I tried to move my wrists. The pain medication helped a little, but I only felt real relief after some physiotherapy. Your doctor should have probably just given you a referral.
@@brmbkl agree. Plus they would get backlash for not checking the identity. She didn’t count on them doing a background check and thought easy peasy
So she lied about who she is. She won't get the pills and she can be kicked out for pill seeking.
That Chinese doctor is just-😵💫😵💫❤️❤️
If nothing else, this perfectly illustrates just how stressful life has become in recent years.
We shouldn't have to be medicated just to get from day to day.
When you’re addicted to drugs, alcohol or anything it’s hard to quit. The only way is if you get help is if you help yourself.
"Pain 10/10" an she's not doubled over and vomiting and crying in pain? lol Gotta love patients.
Pain is subjective, and if it's "the worst pain the patient ever felt" it could be THEIR 10/10. Also, the pain scale should primarily be used to document if the pain gets better or worse over time, not used as a diagnostic tool. Some people have 8/10 stubbed toes, some have 4/10 heart attacks. It's not fair to judge or belittle patients on their own personal interpretation of something as subjective as pain.
@@whiteravenkpopfan No. If you are doubled over in pain and vomiting from your stubbed toe, then it's a 10/10 stubbed toe. If you're calmly having a conversation and are only slightly uncomfortable by all outside measure, you are not a 10/10. It's not belittling them on their personal objective report, it's making a medical judgment on based on other observable (and some reported) objective factors.
@@DblOSmith Like I said, the pain scale should be used primarily to document whether pain gets better or worse over time. Not a diagnostic tool. When a patient is sitting calmly and says it's 10/10 I have to understand that they may not present the same way I do with 10/10. Look, I get it, you want to roll your eyes at the person saying "10/10" while sitting calmly. I get it. But I also understand that if that IS the worse pain they have ever felt, it might be THEIR 10/10.
I've met people who were a 4/10 having a STEMI. I've met people who were having a 10/10 endometriosis flare-up so bad they were too exhausted to scream in pain. Pain is subjective. Pain response varies from person to person. I get you might want to roll your eyes at some patients, but it's not always our place to judge. Are their people who are malignant drug-seekers? Yes. Are there also people who deal with conditions such as chronic pain who are so accustomed to their pain that they can have a sit-down conversation at THEIR 10/10? Also yes.
@@whiteravenkpopfan I've been doing pain assessments in various evaluations for 15 years. You're not telling me anything I don't know. We should get together and get a drink sometime. Sounds like you might work in the field too. I'm sure we both have some interesting stories. Let's talk.
Pain is entirely subjective, not to mention that people don't always present external symptoms.
For example, my Father herniatied his L6 a few years ago, and was in horrific pain whenever he was moving around, but when he was sitting down, he was able to handle the pain better.
Some people also live in constant pain, my Mother was in a catastrophic car accident that broke nearly every bone in her body, had osteoarthritis, and was going through Chemotherapy/radiation. I never once saw her wince or cry out in pain. Not once during the entire time I knew her did she do so much as a grunt. Yet, whenever I took her to a doctor, she always said she had a '10' for pain.
“…My patient, the entitled opioid addict would like a word.”
I’ve been to ER twice in the last two years (clumsy). The nurses always look relieved when I only want Tylenol. (BTW actually had the same surgery as this woman. Had non opioids for only 7 days.)
I adore Troy ❤❤❤
2 Handsome doctors! 🥰
Anyone whose in chronic pain honestly knows never use your 10 unless you think you're gonna die...also you can't boss around doctors like that...I have chronic pancreatitis and doctors view me as a drug seeker UNTIL they look at my file.. people like this are the reason people like me get overlooked .
Looks can be deceiving but I believe she's going to get help. Weather she wants it or not.
Final boss Karen 😂 "let me speak to your manager"
I have a autoimmune that causes a lot of pain and I will never take pain meds.
Why
I too have auto immune diseases that cause chronic pain. Without pain meds my life is miserable and I'm nonfunctional. Pain meds give me a quality of life I wouldn't have without them.
My mom takes lots of medicines, but she is NOT an addict. She was in a major car accident in her teens, got roadhouse-kicked by my father’s horses a little while after giving birth to me, and suffered an intestinal puncture because someone was an idiot while doing their job, IN THAT ORDER SINCE THE 1970s. And those are the three that immediately come to mind. There is also the small side note that all her children including myself were C-section kids.
In her words, the pain she suffers would make me curl up on the ground and cry. And the new doctors who give her her prescriptions are trying the same BS they tried 20 years ago: injections in the spinal column, physical therapy, and THEN medicine. SHE IS ON THE RECORD AS DESPERATELY NEEDING THOSE PAINKILLERS TO STAY A FUNCTIONING WOMAN! I’ve seen her in legit pain when she has been without the meds, and it is heartbreaking.
For some yes it's an addition for others like myself getting out of bed to take a shower is so painful I can't describe it. And I had 4 kids naturally no pain meds.
I'm on steroid therapy for my knee and I have no thyroid. I gained weight. Trust me if I have 700 calories in a day that is a big day.
Doctors need to stop lumping everyone into one pit
People like this is why I'm scared to go in for scoliosis pain. (L1- L4. 7° curve) I make sure to emphasize no opioid pills because I don't want to be looked at as a seeker. I'm a POC so the odds are stacked against me.
My god,you poc are such bullshiters
You re always the victim,aren t you?
I thought the opiods crisis is a "white people" situation as you claimed to be
The odds aren't stacked against you, no matter your skin color.
They're stacked against everyone because of a small minority of pill-junkies who do the circuit at Hospitals and Doctors Offices specifically looking for pills.
She must not have wanted those meds that badly, considering the when the MRI was brought up her chief complaint was the "low grade muscle relaxers" they were going to prescribe. I mean that elevated her from "drug seeking behavior" to just "drug seeking" full blown
Dr Choi is da GUY!!
thing about addicts is their fear of being honest about their addiction stems from shame caused by the judgement they get from society. so next time you see an addict, dont judge them. instead think of what couldve caused it.
Poor doctor at the end 😂😂😂
I kinda agree with the lady,She has an injury, she has pain, she works hard in a good job and pays insurance. Labelling her a drug seeker might force her to start using harder drugs and loose her job and become a bum.
The fear of creating an addict sometimes prevents a doctor from helping someone in pain.
as soon as i heard lumbago mentioned. an old uncle came to mind. i remember him saying "I'm real sick, John. Lumbago. It's a slow and painful death, my brother." his death wasn't slow, but wasn't nice. he got shot on a porch by the military. rip uncle
My g the pychyatrist breaks things down in seconds
Bad pain management, it pretty hard to game the system in the NHS.
I want to see the rest of this I want to see her face when she's told no again
I take opiods for pain and I don't want to take them bc of addiction so I just try and ignore the pain and try other methods.
This is what I fear
I heard some countries’ policies are not to allow medical opiates to avoid this situation.
Frequent flier... Same thing they called me after malpractice broke my jaw and 4 teeth, and again when i could have found the cancer early enough. Fkin get that right, except that the patient doesnt get respect or benefit of the doubt
This isn't just ordinary pain meds she is seeking but opioids. I implore you all to research oxycontin, fentanyl etc....the US is going through a opioid crisis. Opioids affecting every level of society.
Let the addicts weed themselves out. I'm honestly Sick and Tired of people in genuine pain being punished, and labeled as addicts, because of a minority of pill junkies. Let them eat opiates. They'll either work through it themselves, or OD. Either way, the problem will fix itself.
As one who has bad knees and back muscles and nerves and spine i know how the medical world in many ways screws people who have chronic pain and how the medical world looks at us who are in chronic pain even with nerve pain killers muscle relaxers and a med used primarily for diabetic neuropathy and another med that is for anxiety which has a side effect of nerve pain relief a anti-inflammatory gel or over the counter anti-inflammatory and pain killer combo im still in enough pain that it's hard to get out of bed in the morning and at other times unable to get out of bed without having someone help me there's many drs that even after seeing my medical records still think I'm a frequent flyer even though I don't even ask for opiod pain meds drs do need to have a training course for dealing with people in my situation