Two Stage Tesla Turbine Load Testing, Powering 1000w Motor
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Quote from Nikola Tesla's British Patent 179,043 - Improved Process of and Apparatus for Production of High Vacua, Second Paragraph
"In the development of power by thermodynamic prime movers, as steam engines and turbines, a low back pressure is essential to good economy, the performance of the machine being increased from fifty to one hundred per cent, by reducing the absolute pressure in the exhaust space from fifteen to about one pound per square inch."
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1000w motor with impeller (LOADED).
whats the cost for turbine and pump i only see blue prints
What would the pressure of the gas be in the outlet and would it be at a higher temperature if so could that be reused in a steam turbine for further efficiency.
@@yasararif8292 Steam will be our working fluid.
@@yasararif8292 No, it would be a lower temperature. This turbine was originally designed as steam turbine.
At what point did you apply a load?
i really love the accelerating sound
yeah it's very satisficing to me as well.
I don't lol. It means its unbalanced.
Once it gets up to a certain rpm you can really hear the vibration kick in bad. The second clip sounds way better though.
Exciting to watch you brother. Thanks for sharing. Peace and Cheers!
Good job! Keep up the good work. Tesla would be happy!
What your doing is exciting to see,I'm fascinated
Thank you Lorrie! We shall prevail.
I like the way you think and do things.
Thank you!
This is so impressive. Well done.
A plexar blast shield would'nt go astray either. Microwave oven doors are pretty tough too. As are car windscreens. Use several layered together to enable relatively clear viewing and maximum safety. The speed of ejection of pieces from that setup would be up into the higher ranges of wood elasticity and perhaps whatever else you are using to act as blast shields.
Lexan is what we use, i's bulletproof plastic but yeah there are many options.
Be interesting to see power efficiency. If you hook up a MPPT battery charger that has a greater voltage and amperage capacity than your generator, you can get power output at specific RPMs. If you can let it run steady for a while at that RPM, you can get a duty cycle (% of time running) on your air compressor to estimate power input.
That's actually the circuit we are using, but we have many options. We are no longer testing with the air compressor.
@@iEnergySupply I think you got output of about 500W. I need 1 kW to meet local requirements, to remain in the "bicycle with motor" category. Despite its (planned) wings and propeller. Check out this baby (and PLEASE, turn your speakers off, I don't know what I was doing):
ruclips.net/video/TMHH7Jpa3cM/видео.html
This should be compared to some other air tool. Compressed air has terrible cycle efficiency at shop scales so you're gonna get a figure like 10% or something ridiculously bad like that. The important point is relative efficiency. Does it beat a vane motor?
Nice subscriber jump dude this is the dude from Napa auto parts that subscribed when ya had like 35 subs I got my own channel now looks like your design is definitely improved 👌👌👌👌
Thank you for following after all this time! It's about to jump a lot higher too. I would love to see your channel, you should post it in the comments here.
iEnergySupply will do man An definitely will do that 😃 mines a fishing channel soon to be scuba diving just got a new dive tank, hmmmn need to use your knowledge to make me a super awesome jet boat 🤙 shout out on one of your vids would definitely help out and I shall do the same for you I don’t have a bunch of subs but it’s a ripple effect we are the future of RUclips 👌 can’t wait to see more stuff from ya dude 🥳
@@TheVinny360 A super fast boat? lol we could use a Tesla pump as the propulsion device!
iEnergySupply that would be so awesome 😎 I say ya get on it and make a pump system to recharge the air tanks with the propulsion of the boat
@@TheVinny360 Everything is getting more advanced over here, I don't think we will be using the air tanks for much longer, starting with the cold steam experiments coming in a couple weeks!
Put a tube of long thin turbine, with a hallow axle, down the center of a V4-8+ combustion engine and you will have incredibly convenient exhaust on one side and the torque for your turbocharger impeller on the other side. with the axle being the only additional moving part(+ barrings) if the engine block could be made to have air flow inward and also be the lower half of that tube containing the turbine/ pressure chamber.
I want to hook up cold steam system to the cooling system of a car, that would run the turbine to create power from the extra heat the car/truck is producing.
This may be off topic, but someone might find it interesting.Over unity electric generator. By AMA.
Segment 1: 1 motor with bar connected to it standing vertically. Circular disc connected to bar that has magnets embedded in it surrounded in high permeability material to focus magnets outward pushing force in an upwards direction from top of disc.
Segment 2: Hollowed out cylindrical Bar of material horizontally positioned.
Flat hollowed out ring shaped material with openings around its outer top flat edge.
Magnets surrounded in high permeability material embedded in these openings.
Magnets positioned in openings around ring are in at least 1 of 2 configurations either all N magnetic field pushing out or N,S,N,S all around it. Just depends on whether your going for Piston structure or spinning structure explained below & whether you want it to be DC or AC current.
Place these all along the cylindrical bar connected to it solidly, except at far ends of bar.
At both ends of bar place ring of material that can be magnetically repelled in specific locations. (magnetically repelled in specific location is in reference to outside of ring area that faces away from center of bar)(Other side of same ring facing in towards center of bar is capable of being magnetically repelled all around) Ring must be connected solidly to bar. points of repulsion on these rings is off set from each other on each end of bar.
3 Hollow ring structures with small square bars protruding from each. Ring structure has all magnetic repulsion on inside of ring shape & can rap around the main bar so that the bar wont be causing friction on things as it moves back and forth or spins. 1st positioned around far left of bar, 2nd position at center of bar (be sure to leave enough room for magnetic structures to be able to move back and forth without hitting it) & 3rd positioned on far right of bar.
Tube structure is constructed in two parts that fit together on top of each other length wise over main structure.
Tube structure has 3 square openings for the bars that the Ring structures that are connected around the main bar keeping it from causing friction on structure, to slide into.
This tube structure is designed with material that does not block magnetic fields. Perhaps some type of transparent material glass or other.
At both ends of the tube structure there is a built in circular groove that will house a round disc. The ceiling/floor/left side/& right side of groove has openings for small magnets to be embedded in it, so that the pushing force from magnets is pushing in towards the edge of disc that goes in this spot. There is also 4 openings located on the top, bottom, left & right positions of the open groove. Small magnets are placed in these spots so when round disc is in position these magnetic fields will hit sideways keeping it from generating friction against structure.
Far Ends of bar has Cap structure that screws over tube halves holding them together. Cap structure also has 4 points on inside top, bottom, left & right that have openings. These openings have small embedded magnets in them that exert there pushing force outwards (sideways) so it will keep disc in position, generating no friction against structure. Cap is made of material like tube so it does not block magnetic fields. (Note: These magnets in groove and cap structure are only needed for piston design. If Disc is directly connected to main bar so as it spins the bar spins, magnets are not needed here).
The disc has ring around it (ring of material goes around outer edge and folds over front side & backside a small distance) that is repelled by magnetic fields so the 12 small magnets will keep it lined up but it will be able to spin without causing friction on structure. The disc has openings on it's flat side that face inside of tube and magnets surrounded in high permeability material are embedded in this disc.
The disc has small bar that is connected to it's center that goes all the way to the other end of bar structure through the center of the hollowed out bar and connects to disc on other end. Disc on other end is set up the same but magnets embedded in it are off set in comparison. As first disc spins the magnetic fields will push against specific spot on disc connected directly to bar, pushing bar in other direction, once bar is fully pushed over, further spinning of disc will then align the other sides magnet to push it back.
Tube structure also has half moon shaped protrusion on inside and on both halves so when tube is connected they line up to make a full ring shape on inside of tube, these half moon shaped protrusions have at least 1 small round opening on it's side in middle of curve that faces away from center of bar. The opening has a small magnet embedded in it so magnetic force is repelling out sideways away from center of bar. The protruding ring is positioned to line up slightly further in towards center of bar then the ring of magnetically repelled material connected directly to bar. This way when bar moves right or left it is magnetically stopped after a short distance.
Copper coil setup: Copper coils are wound in at least 1 of 2 ways. Either coiled in circles next to each other (Like if you wound coils around a cylindrical bar) or laid out in a row as if wire was on flat table going up then bent to go down & back up until it formed a flat rectangle of wire bending up and down and then the entire structure folded around tube. Copper windings are then lined up perpendicular to magnetic fields on outside of tube. Ends of copper coils are connected into separate construct that will allow electrical current to flow somewhere else.
Circular construct is built like a stand that goes around the outside of motor segment. Circular construct has flat ring of high permeability (magnetic field shielding) material that has small openings that will allow magnetic fields through specific locations. Top of circular construct has groove to allow the horizontal bar to balance on. Circular construct can also be placed on other end of bar so it is balanced. The motor segment is positioned so the disc connected to the bar that is connected to the motor is lined up so the disc passes under the horizontal bars disc that is at end of horizontal bar. The high permeability material keeps the magnetic fields in disc from hitting into the disc that spins or pushes the horizontal bar until just the right moment when the impact will cause the disc in horizontal bar to spin which will perpetuate the piston motion in the horizontal bar. More horizontal bars of the same design are built and positioned around the motor segment in a circular horizontal fashion all the way around. The bar connected to the motor can be increased in length to desired height (As much as motor can handle) and more of the exact same setup is repeated higher and higher up, maximizing the over unity potential of the construct to ridiculous proportions. :D Current from the horizontal bars is diverted to power the motor as needed and all other current is diverted to power my game console or the world. :) Interesting variation to this design would be to connect the spinning discs on far ends of horizontal bar to main bar that magnets are connected to so the magnets spin instead of getting pistoned back and forth. So long as moving magnetic fields are perpendicular to copper wires it should work. By AMA
do you have picture or video explaining the concept?
@@iEnergySupply Just text at moment :)
have you tried with waste hard disk plates ? there are grat balanced and already mounted in a motor.
Scotty I need power!!!
She's givving ya all she's got cap'n!
hahahah good one!
Will you plug this into your home grid system?
thank you sir
I'm inspire,
your this video giving mi one idea in engineering can you tell mi about the torque of this turbin when turbine rotate in 6000 RPM ?
4:40 about enough to make any adrenaline junkie get cold chills. Made me cheese for sure when it went from a vibrating rattle to a ever accelerating harmonic humm
haha my early days. I've since worked out most of the issues with balance.
Vibration really low = well built
Faster = more efficient - that has been my observation as well.
Also I have some thoughts on torque versus throughput
The key here now is to master Nikola Tesla's balancing patent so we don't have to worry about buying a 50000 dollar balancing machine. This I have nearly mastered. I would like to know your thoughts on torque. I believe I have solved these issues with the help of Nikola Tesla.
@@iEnergySupply - The torque appears to be directly related to pressure which means you can squeeze more speed from less cubic feet as the pressure rises. Theoretically you can run a 1MW generator with a few cubic feet of material at high enough pressure. You just need enough surface area. My thoughts.
At far as balancing, one can rotate a uniform disc and shave down whatever side is unbalanced, like on a lathe.
@@JohnWilkinsonTesla
Yeah I believe the power is going to be way off the charts. We are running with 0 pressure to begin with so any pressure we allow to build up in the boiler will increase our maximum power out-put will exponentially. Because of the vacuum the efficiency skyrockets.
There won't be any problems with torque because we are going to transform the energy from the shaft with an electrical torque conversion, from high speed low torque to low speed high torque.
In theory balancing on the lathe will work, although at higher speeds the thickness of the material may seem uniform but in reality there are tiny variations in each sheet. Even when a rotor is perfectly ground round, it tends to always need to be balanced in a special machine to get the heavy side ground off. We are going to take care of this by using Nikola Tesla's balancing patent. Thank you for your comment.
Still problem is how do we get enough torque without losing efficiency , gear reduction ? Any thoughts ?
@@akashsaini100 Nikola Tesla used direct connection to shaft, alternator direct connection. He used high speed generator. Right now we want to use the Newman motor concept, we have tested it at high speed and it's a great generator for the purpose.
Haha.. I was winching and gritting my teeth when you were reaching 10k rpm, and then you mentioned the saftey enclosure! Whew..I’m old enough to know that when things start singing like that, with the high pitched frequency..something is going to happen soon.
Really interesting, I’ve always wondered about applying something like this to micro hydro or wind energy generation.
Really interesting. Those cheap Chinese auto. Turbos, spin at high ripums, wonder if a repurposed auto turbo would be a good repurpose.
How about using reverse magnetic bearings and a perfectly straight rotor shaft
Are your turbines designed to ensure that the rotation speed does not exceed the speed of sound, unlike propeller aircraft?
How much preshure ore air volumen do you consume at centrain rpm speeds? Did you try other gases types like inurt one? Do more moisture rich ore dry'r air have effects on those tesla turbines?
great video. I'm only curious of why that generator design.
seems to be the most powerful and efficient generator I've tried for high speed. The designs has slightly changed but uses the same concept now with no lack of power output.
Brother can you pls talk about the 1000w generator (Dynamo) you used in this video?
1) Is rotor made up of magnet and stator made up of coils?
2) do you used magnetic bearing?
3) what should i do, If I need 8000w? - Do i want to incease the no. of loops, or increase thickness of wire or increase magnet power(Using Big magnet) and increasing rpm
4) how do you calculate that your motor was 1000w? ❤️ Pls answer brother
Thanks in advance 😄 I'm just beginer pls....
AND IT RUNS SO QUIET YOU CAN BARELY TELL IT'S ON.
wait til you see my latest turbine, it's meal and way more balanced.
NO THANKS. I JUST ATE.
My battery bank is charged normally at about 40V. At what pressure will this turbine give me that voltage output? the lower the pressure the longer my air receiver will be able to charge my batteries.
what is the amperage required at your 40v?
Did you reach your 100% pressure capacity? Your supply pressure was at 118psi, but in video , you did not completely open the valve. So please make an observation of input psi vs rpm vs voltage
Late comment, have you ever tried only a vacuum, not pressure, on the exhaust side?.
where are the turbines being sold and for how much?
Load up the motor. A synchronous motor armature is designed to rotate at the same frequency as the supply. Speed of rotation does not equate to torque unless it is input to step-down device such as a gearbox. This is how turbine jet engines drive helicopter rotors. Load up the motor. Connect the out of the rotating element to a variable load. A v-belt system driving a lawnmower wheel filled with water should do. The mathematics to calculate rotational input energy required to spin a known mass about it's axis at right angles to gravity is well known and easily researched. 1000 watt parameters should be easy for everyone to follow and therefore easy to defend in arguments.
In our up coming video's we will show how we convert high speed low torque into low speed high torque and we do it electrically. Typically belts cause too much friction at high speed, Nikola Tesla did electrical conversions to achieve the torque desired.
@@iEnergySupply Personally, I'd say it's not relevant *how* you convert, it's demonstrating *what you have available* to convert. Running an unloaded motor, especially a single phase motor, which uses less power at start [edit] than its 3 phase equivalent [/edit], shows almost nothing. As an example, my rotary phase converter is based around a 4kW 3 phase motor, but once it's started, and without an additional load applied, it pulls around 60W, most of which is used to keep the contactors engaged.
The ideal would be a calibrated load bank, but a motor with a variable load would be a good solution. A fixed flat or V belt with variable tension impinging on the motor's output pulley, for example. Ideally, you'd want something scaled such that it can load the turbine to stall condition.
For a range of given turbine input pressures (or perhaps flow rate), map output load (motor input V and A) vs turbine speed. That gives you worthwhile data.
When Tesla initially demonstrated his turbine, he had 2 turbines doing a "tug of war", rather than showing the turbines turning and driving usable load. This is probably part of why the assembled engineers were unimpressed. After all, a 2kW turbine stalled against another 2kW turbine looks exactly the same as a 2mW turbine stalled against another 2mW turbine...
@@wibblywobblyidiotvision That motor drew 1300 watts when powering it from the wall. It has an impeller on it which is the load. It has very powerful suction. I agree I needed more testing equipment. In my later videos I show more. For instance see this video.ruclips.net/video/MkGAKqG2qvU/видео.html
What’s the temperature of the air as it is dispersed ? If you center the first stage into another turbine from the center outward. Then loop it back into the first turbine. Wouldn’t this create steam into solidification? Thus creating its own push off of thermal fusion from the first turbine. Then push from the steam solidifying in the second turbine. Then looping it back into the first balancing itself out. Put the whole system in an enclosed pressurized system to take load off
we will soon be analyzing our system's temperature in, temperature out, pressure in, pressure out, rpm, acceleration, humidity in, humidity out etc. two weeks is our estamite.
@@iEnergySupply it would be nice to have a 3D printer. Print out the schematics in carbon fiber to withstand the load. I think putting it in an enclosed pressurized system would keep it form exploding.
Are you no longer selling this? I'd love to buy one if possible please. 🙏
Have you ever thought about using a planetary gearbox to reduce the rpm and increase the torque?
Why not use SI units in all quantities? Would make it much easier for engineers around the world to understand what kind of pressures you are working with.
Btw given how your old turbine exploded it might be a good idea to take some additional safety precautions?
Our analytical equipment is nearly finished.
A real engineer should be able to convert any unit into another unit, none engineers can convert any unit to any other unit on Google. And i'm sure this guy understands "safety," if he wants to do it the way he's doing it, that's up to him. Your comment makes you sound like you're the kind of person who likes to be president of the home owners' association and does this task for free, just for the sheer pleasure of telling all the neighborhood people what height their grass must be cut at, what color their houses may be, and point out that there are oil stains on their driveways that have to be removed ASAP.
@@goatsinker347 You seem to be quite the typical representative of the group of people you mentioned, given your comment :)
How does this compare to air pumps in efficiency safety and durability? Maybe you could have a saleable product there.
It's being realized, people can see the potential and are ordering the model turbines.
That single phase alternator was also used by tesla when he measured his turbine power and got more than 100 horsepower.
interesting! Can you please link any information regarding the generator?
@@iEnergySupply www.researchgate.net/figure/basic-alternator-with-single-phase-B-I-Frequency-The-output-frequency-of-an_fig3_286725502
@@ss-sq1hn That's exactly how my generator works. Thanks for the link!
@@ss-sq1hn wait, my coils are orientated a little different it appears
@@iEnergySupply ok, even single coil can be used with magnet rotating at the middle. Simple and stabile for high rpm applications.
Is the disco beat really necessary?
May I ask what kind of bearings you used?
Who could even hear the turbine with the stripper music at full dB
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yeah I was new at editing videos.
huh?
Be interesting to see a thermal video, just curiosity getting to me
One of the things on the list that we need, I agree!
explain to me why you cant use water weight as the force through this turbine please.
you can, but you need a stream or something, please see our latest video for the proper application.
Without the vacuum chamber (the box containing the turbine) in the cold steam video, is it possible to run the turbine with the suction of the vacuum pump? In other words, is it possible to run the turbine with a vacuum pump (-15 Psi to -12 Psi)?
you could but wouldn't get much power. The best thing to do is to run it in a closed loop system like a refrigerant system. we will be showing soon.
@@iEnergySupply surmised, not proven. Try it.
@@iEnergySupply you say it wouldn’t get much speed if run on a Vacuum… why would that be? If the Vacuum is pulling the same CFM from open air what would be the fundamental difference?
@@HornerDees I probably made a mistake in the video, I miss speak sometimes.
I know just enough to suspect that resonance is a function of efficiency at different rpms. To my ears if I heard those sounds in a petrol or electric motor I'd be looking for worn bearings. I'm thinking resonance in this application.
This turbine was un-balanced, we have since been working on the balance issue and are extremely close to fixing it. We have now achieved 150000 rpm.
Have you tried building the turbine vertically supported on like field neodymium magnets. Would it make any difference in the drag and vibration?
Our new turbines don't have that much vibration as we are mastering tesla's balancing patent.
Keep going iEnergySupply team, the world needs to be free from the oil enslavement.
This is interesting. A 1 kW generator is driven by a Tesla turbine which is driven by compressed air generated by a 5 kW compressor powered by electricity generated by a coal fired power plant.
@@oldhardrock2542 exactly what I was thinking lol
does air pressure = freq relate to magnetic spin vs freq in a coil?
It depends on the amount of coils and the amount of poles that switch. This generator is not like the usual.
awesome , i want to know your conclusion , can we use this for electricity generation or is the other conventional method is better ?
This system is absolutely the best out there that I know of.
There are some issues with the system. The main issue is energy input and the biggest problem is closed circuit commissioning.
@@SemperFiParatus sorry, but what is Closed Circuit Commissioning? Could you explain or include a link where I could understand it? Thank you very much.
@@SemperFiParatus input is smaller then output and you'll be charging a battery or energy storage system
The conventional method is currently better, as Tesla turbines are more efficient at higher rpm, usually at a point where the disks are liable to break.
What kind of bearing can withtstand the high speed rotation?
In this turbine we used ceramic steel hybrid. Must be well balanced and have a rubber race around the bearing.
can you explain what is turning the turbine? are you just pumping in compressed air?
In this demonstration we are using compressed air for tuning, in our next video we will use cold steam from warm water boiling in vacuum to power the turbine.
@@iEnergySupply Without the vacuum chamber (the box containing the turbine) in the cold steam video, is it possible to run the turbine with the suction of the vacuum pump? In other words, is it possible to run the turbine with a vacuum pump (-15 Psi to -12 Psi)?
Could you power one of these from a 24l 1/4 bsp air compressor?
you could, this one in particular wouldn't that that efficient on it because of the volume of air needed due to the inlet size.
How many bars you need?
Is it possible to make the turbine into a generator instead of it powering one
I believe so, it would be high voltage output. I've had some strange effects with static electricity in the turbine under load. More on that to come.
How are the outer stages effective if they allow the air to escape before exercising a boundary layer effect? It seems as the this only adds mass, this reducing the rpm...If, perhaps, the outer stages were enclosed, the friction would commence, this increasing the working capacity...Please explain...
The second stages are blocked from the circumference, the spiral path has to make it to the center of stage one before it enters the second. To see exactly what I am saying watch this video so you can see the construction. ruclips.net/video/j7DNKIsdBZc/видео.html
@@iEnergySupply I am very much interested in the Tesla design and I love the idea of applying two stages...My thoughts are that if the second stage was encapsulated and maintained a smaller volume, the rpm and torque would increase due to the increased pressure derived from a smaller volume. However, it could be the opposite, that a larger volume would lend better results due to the air seeking to escape to an area of less pressure and therefore less resistance...Once, then allowing the air to escape, port to atmospheric condition. I am seeking to apply the turbine in some fashion and am fascinated by what you are doing...good job!
@@livinglies167 Thank you for the great comment, I am really glad there are others experimenting out there. I actually do have a design that nearly fully encapsulates the exhaust stages with two volute shapes, you can see that video here. Unfortunately it blew up during a high rpm test. ruclips.net/video/TaReAg5E7Dw/видео.html
@@iEnergySupply yeah, wow...will def check it out...Tesla was a genius and I can't believe noone has commercialized such an efficient idea into a greater design...But yeah, no problem...I like what your are doing...Perhaps, later both our interests may return prosperity...I look forward to seeing more of your work...BTW, I saw that you have a CNC...Are you in the business of cutting for profit? If so, I may be interested in doing some business...Anyway, good luck on your further research...my email is jmichaelgreen.g@gmail.com Again, great work!
instead of air/steam, would this technology work used with water and gravity as a power generator?
With a gravity system this would work great with a syphon effect. Syphoning the water vapor instead of using water's weight alone. This hasn't been tested but I would like to test it in the future.
@@iEnergySupply I will be following for sure. Thanks!
Does the turbine has torque?
Could you please state the CFM of air required to make 1000 watts.
We just got our flow meter in.
I'm looking to build my first tesla turbine and I'd like to build a two stage turbine. Can you advise how I might scale the rotors? How many discs, thickness, gap size??
@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre hi Paul, see WhatsApp 😁
I used 1/32" lexan, 3" rotor for the first stage, and the second stage I used 1/16th" Lexan 4" rotor. This would be a good design although in the future the dimensions will be different. We are still tuning right now.
@@iEnergySupply thanks, that's helpful. Paul suggested 3 times the surface area for the pump/ second stage. So 3:1. But what about speed/diameter; you could create 3 times the area by using more discs, or by more diameter but the effect would be different as the periphery of the greater diameter would be faster. Do you have any thoughts on this?
@@owainwinfield9053 Yeah I have worked out that the first and second stage should have the same diameter as you wan't the periphery speed of the turbine to match the exhaust, although it would be good to have the second stage larger if your material could withstand the rpm needed to have stage one periphery speed in the supersonic ranges.
@@iEnergySupply ok, thanks. I had thought the same, so bigger is a bit better if the materials strong enough. I found this calculator which is interesting to play with (below). Basically you need enough simulated G in the pump stage to out weigh the atmospheric pressure or back pressure on the exhaust of the pump, messing with the calculator shows bigger is better; insilico.ehu.es/mini_tools/rcf_rpm.php
This aggravates me so much the Tesla turbine is meant for steam that's how the concept works It's gotta have some viscosity to it Otherwise the efficiency goes down down probably by 10 times
Please see my new videos.
& will it still deliver 1000w at that voltage 40V/pressure?
with correct pressure speed and inlet volume it will.
Would this work off biogas pressure?
I believe so.
What would work better? Titanium disks or carbon fiber? What would be your choice material?
Carbon-fiber is our next choice after titanium. Carbon-fiber rotor coming very soon!!
Titanium is not as strong as people think... it's good for high temperature differences but other than that it's a waste of money. And carbon fiber spinning discs sound like a bad idea too. Sorry I don't mean to sound negative, I really enjoy seeing the experiments. Accurately balancing all the carbon fiber discs ... I dont know how you'd actually get that done safely. But I could be wrong.
I would go with a good quality stainless steel if it was me.
@@raycar1165 For it's weight it is as strong as people think, centrifugal force pulls on the weight of the material not the strength. What you want is a good strength to weight ratio.
@@raycar1165 The carbon-fiber is so strong and so light weight I don't think you would need to worry about balancing it as it's 1/2 the weight of aluminum. what we are using right now is ss 316 for the disks, works great but so heavy you absolutely need to balance it. In this video my rotor is not balanced which is an issue, but if it was carbon-fiber I don't believe it would need balanced.
can't hear the audio dialogue with the music in the background
Yeah it's a older video of mine sorry about that.
How many rpm is a motor load to your generator?
It really depends on the turbine diameter and volume of flow more details soon!
They could use this idea to make more efficient turbine engines in aviation.
If I ain't dead wrong then you can get killed while operating such a beautiful machine cause anytime at a speed of >Mach1 rings can be thrown out.....by the way is 18k RPM is the maximum rotation your turbine with that cover can attain?
Safety is so important. The casing is actually made from bullet proof plastic though, so it should hold up just fine. I wouldn't recommend anyone do what I do either unless they are willing to take the risk.
What about magnet bearings?
I've built them in the past, I will continue R&D with them in the future.
i would love to order one, and for some reason your website wont load.
Not available yet, we are almost finished with the final design.
I want to buy one but your site doesn’t work. How do I contact you?
yeah sorry about that, we are trying to fix the issue, I need to make new website because Godaddy deleted our account due to our card expiring that was on auto renew.
how much power does your compressor use to make the 120 psi air pressure compared to how much it produces
A shit ton more this is extremely inefficient
compressed air is only for testing, so the amount of power is irrelevant. Air compressors are extremely in-efficient
thats what I was getting at "was it just a tes or were you planning to use the compressor"
Air spindle 85kw generator can power a small city
What is the Radius or the Diameter of the discs?
4 inches, but we are currently testing with 3 inches
Is it bad I was hoping for a catastrophic failure haha. Soon much energy in that turbine pretty crazy.
yeah! It's scary without a blast shield. I always use blast shields now.
I do not blame you one bit. Iv seen many prototypes that were far too sketchy for my liking haha. You never know what will happen only the potential. Better safe than sorry!!! Best of luck my man. Keep it up!!!!!
What's the price of such a turbine?
You'll want the new design, we want to charge 1500 dollars for pre-production models.
@@iEnergySupply What's the output from the $1500 model?
Is that true that tesla turbine more efficient than axial jet turbine ??
@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre but why people dont use telsa turbine as electric generator when most peapole relieze this turbine has efficiency ovee 90%, i still confuse .
@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre thanks maan its really helpful
@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre Thats ridiculous logic, ofcourse companies would make them if they lasted forever. I would make them and I would put all my competitors out of business.
The reason that tesla turbines never took off in development is because the combustion engine was easier to implement.
Tesla turbines were designed to work with steam while the world was moving away from steam.
@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre because filaments create light. And they didnt use a tesla turbine because cars were not running off of steam. Also World War 1 was breaking out at this time so people went with what works. They needed immediate solutions to their problems, not technological challenges that required further testing and experimentation.
Additionally, at this point in Teslas life his social skills were really degrading, and working with people is very important.
Edit:
I actually didnt know Tesla had a light, although I didnt find much mention of it in his bios, I did find you are talking about an induction light, see wikipedia gas discharge light. Looks like the biggest reason it didn't take off right away is that gas discharge lights require ballasts, which can sometimes be complicated, and certainly more expensive and fire prone in that day and age than an easy to screw in incandescant bulb. It seems the electronics were too bulky for residential use at that time, although they were used in industrial settings later on.
At the end of the day I think many of Teslas inventions were under utilized is because he was a brilliant inventor but not such a brilliant business man, and Edison was kind of a dick to him.
5.1 amp ? It's correct !!
how many amperes he got ?
it was un-clear, this was early research, please see the new videos, soon we will have all the numbers.
Seems the input power will cost more than the output power
That's life.
This is for a steam system.
I do not get why people want to play music when you are trying to hear what is going on. Otherwise good video.
yeah I was learning video editing. You get better over time.
What is the torque at 100 psi pressure ??
Older turbine where torque was not measured.
Graphite air bearings :)
Yeah! I saw the video lol :) Good stuff!
hi, i may not understand this as much as you, but all i see is is a turbine spinning fast with no load from compressed air, while getting cooler from the air expansion. You cant claim any efficiency numbers with this or ask for money.
Just going by what the greatest scientist of all time says, Nikola Tesla in my opinion. Remember we just started the research and have been doing everything with the minimum. Also the compressed air is just for determining the dimensions of our nozzle and turbine, we have been tuning the turbine and it's getting more and more powerful for the same pressure and volume of air over time. You'll have to stay tuned to see the numbers.
If someone wants to donate to see the project move forward quicker, why should they not have the right to do so?
I looked at the Tesla Turbine patent and it looks like you made this according to his design. Which is well done. According to Tesla's patent the forced air enters into the blades from the outside edge of the plates. But, this operates contrary to the activity power of centripetal and centrifugal forces in nature. To illustrate this metaphor differently: Just think of this, which will be easier, to push a wheel uphill or downhill? When you go against the forces of nature you waste more energy.
please see our latest video for more details on the system.
The turbine works on fluid dynamics "clinging" to the disks and the pressure differential between input and output. What you describe would only assist the difference in pressure.
If...
50 Hz is enough to light on...
Why must be 12000 rpm...
So 50 Hz is 3000 rpm....
I mean...
It must not tbe "Break" Supersonic sound... are you...
That why.... Tesla Turbine is the best...
The faster it goes the more power it makes :)
what would a turbine and pump me cost me
That is still to be determined, for now we want to finish testing and get the best product possible, within a reasonable amount of time.
@@iEnergySupply how long do you think it might be cuz a full alloy one or aluminum one like you talking about seems pretty sweet. i didnt sleep last night haha watch all your videos you where the only one who got real use from this and theres still lots to work on it id love to see like 2-3 kw production
@@robbieince5979 It's already been done and we are working on even higher wattage! Even with small dimensions!
Inlet efficiency sounds off, balance for sure
May have been, it was a long time ago.
1000w motor UNLOADED
Well if you know about vacuum cleaners, you know that they start loaded, it's not until you block the intake that they become unloaded. Its kind of difficult to understand, but when you block the intake of a vacuum cleaner/shop vac, the rpm increases due to a reduction in load. The motor over heats because there isn't enough air flow to cool the motor and not because there is an increase in power consumption.
@@iEnergySupply I understand. but dont see the relationship. this is not the same. put a load in it.
@@MasterIvo The motor has a impeller on it, the impeller is the load. I tested it at 20k rpm on the wall socket and it consumed 1300 watts at 120v ac.
@@iEnergySupply and the impeller is in water?
@@MasterIvo In air, and that's all it needs to consume that much energy, plus the inefficiency's of the iron cores in the motor. When something spins 20000 rpm with a 5" diameter it experiences ample friction, air friction especially when it has a propeller or impeller attached to the rotor.
How in the heck does 12000 RPM = 200hz?
because 1 Hz = 60. (one hz = one revolution of the generator)
@@iEnergySupply :D, please read what you wrote
Now this invention is way more efficient than other generators but no materials that can withstand the rpm produced supposedly? Just thinking super simple why not add a flow valve to keep the rotational rpms from getting to the point where the thing flys apart! I hate seeing good things held from people because it makes making power to easy thus powers that be lose some of there power over people.
You should put up a link to paul tauty - whoever he is.
Probably not
So for the crazy has anyone spun up a Wimshurst generator with a tesla turbine?
On the to do list!! Thank's for the suggestion.
@@iEnergySupply Sweet and thank you for doing it.
How are you dear Could you please send me this turbine and I will thank you
You can never balance the generator in this setup, because you need a generator on each side of the Tesla Turbine to make it balanced.
But they need to be exactly the same, exactly.
And the shorter the better.
Actually I already did it. Have you seen my latest video? It's called dynamic balance.
You need a GENERATOR at each side.
And they need to be exactly the same at any rpm.
It is called The Dzhanibekov Effect.
@@_John_Sean_Walker My new generator went 3x faster with far less vibration. I tested it before and after balancing, the results were night and day.
I totally agree with you. Well done.
But that is not what I mean.
@@_John_Sean_Walker What do you mean?
pwo regni
ha?
I've pretty much finished modeling this in a car with a reciprocating flywheel. If the vacuum is branched off to a connected chamber encasing the flywheel, and it is vented like the turbine, there would be a reciprocating aspect to optimizing efficiency. Connected with one-way vales that are temperature sensitive, the warm air and cold air from the turbine would equalize with the flywheel, cold on the bottom, warm on top. IF the math were perfect, the time component of the usable torque power band would be 1, as the energy AT the 0D output node. 360X12=4,320 for the 4D metric. 3X3 inside, + 3+1 at the output node, 12 for the physical structure, 1 for the output energy. Pretty much plug and play if the money morons want to fix green transportation. Water and fuel injection electrolysis could be used to keep hydrogen under vacuum in the system, where it is COLD phase changed back to water in a fusion process of condensation. Compressed air is the only "fuel" you are carrying.
36 Hertz = 4320 RPMs?
Please see our 150000 RPM run here ruclips.net/video/oVjMJkABboM/видео.html
@@iEnergySupply Yikes. I'm posting a little something on the theoretical optimum of a Tesla Turbine system, for the load of a modern auto. I do the perfect model dynamically, then nothing that exists performs to it. But little steps. IF everything were in the right physical and material description, it's actually scary what is possible.
Please read utube New terms of service. They are going to be eliminating chans that have no commercial value. They will take a lot of channels down. From what I've heard, that will mean anyone that does not go along with their ideals. If you want to keep your audience informed you may want to do a back up channel like bitchute or Dlive. There are a few out there. Bitchute seems to be very popular. When you do make a new Chan provide the link in your remarks. This takes place Dec 10th.
Thank you for letting me know. I have been watching videos of lawyer's interpretation and learning lots of valuable information. It's crazy what they are doing.
Здравствуйте поставьте пожалуйста геолокацыю спасибо большое всем здоровья!!!!!!!
This doesn't seem like a proper test to generator doesn't seem to be actually putting out a thousand Watts because the motor has no load on it
The load is the impeller, at full speed the motor spinning the impeller consumes 1000 + watts
When people go to Mars they could use the vacuum setup you do to create power…… no?
I thought you were actually talking about tesla motor. Are you talking about N.Tesla's actual theory? Omg myfriend did you actually build that Jeremiah
Nikola Tesla
Lower rpms =lower wear.
Higher rpms haha