MH17: A Victim of War (Malaysian Airlines Flight 17)
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2022
- Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine in 2014. It became victim of an armed conflict that evolved into war now, eight years later. The Boeing 777 was most probably hit by a missile. Russia's involvement is all but certain.
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Thank you for making it public now
Previoysly the video was private
You are amazing.
What happened with due process?
@@DukePNukem-mx3gj let me take a wild guess, you believe the Russian photoshop of the Ukrainian fighter jet is real? I bet you also believe Jussie Smollet is innocent because he has an appeal due to him? Get serious.
@@seanpellegrino2989 your guess is wrong. The thing is that the movie states very clear that the courts did not reach a conclusion.
as someone from the netherlands i remember vividly how big of a shock this news was and at the time it seemed like almost everyone was somehow connected to someone that was on that plane…
for many people here this crash hit close to home (even for me; my own father has flown mh17 often for work) and it is still on the minds of many people till this day
I’m in the US and it was big news as well. MH370 was still in the news and this overtook it on every nightly news. It was just a big shocker
Did you comment when America shot down Iran civilian plane and the gave the American captain a medal for murder✈️✈️🏅🏅🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Leaving a comment for the algo because this video is a must-watch
I reply to your comment for the same reason.
Your mom
Thank you.
it worked
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Anytime civilian aircraft are brought down, it is a tragedy. Especially so in situations like this one. Thank you for telling the story of this flight. Wars cost and cause such suffering, the costs to invaders must outweigh the benefits for such things to end. Thank you for your leadership in helping the people of Ukraine during this unimaginable time.
this story has been told many times already. Every little detail has been discovered. Why bring it up again now?
@@vinced5741 because those involved were arrested and charged
@@1littlelee
Were they arrested & charged?
Who was it?
But of course when Ukraine was busy killing people you didn't care.
@@asdf3568 What people?
I remember this incident. Can't think of the pilots and the people how they felt at that time. So horrible. You explained it so well. Thank you for your videos!
Flight crew had shrapnel from preformed shrapnel of a Russian anti-air missile. Recovered wreckage included bits identified to the local military escorts as ‘AC parts’ but were actually from an AA missile. The missile parts were deliberately mis-identified to the local (Russian?) escorts as the investigators would probably not be allowed to recover incriminating evidence.
Who told you investigators were restricted?
White fxking plane = Russian aircraft. The plane was heading from west to east. Its so stupid
@@greggstrasser5791 Didn't you listen to the calls on the day of the incident? They (Military) didn't let investigators enter the scene until it got cleared from possible 'enemy contact' since that was the reason they shot missile at them. i think that was the reason
@@farizdinnie7084
Step 1: Secure the area.
The investigators took months to get to the crash site when journalists had no problems going there. And even after the investigators had been there journalists found additional wreckage and personal belongings to the victims. Goes to show what kind of investigation it was. One where the conclusion was already drawn up beforehand.
I remember seeing woman crying upon heard MH17 news, & said
"we still struggling to find MH370, now this..."
Immediately my tears start dripping.
This is hitting rock bottom for the company. MAS itself trying to survive from bankruptcy, while the disaster keep coming
mh370*
@@itshector9188 satisfied?
@@zinussan50 yes
Meh. This is what we call karma. These people must be a group of killers in past life. No pity for then. Allah is making his choice.
@@honglee6880 No point in commenting if it adds no value
Hell, that's scary!!!
Thank you for your research, visualization and explanation. Top quality as always.
good to see you're uploading more frequently again! also great message at the end of the video
Thank you for covering this tragic incident. Let’s all keep our fingers crossed that nothing similar happens during the current conflict in Ukraine.
The airspace is closed now. It should have been when MH17 was shot down but Ukraine didn't do it.
It's not a conflict, Kristina - it's a BRUTAL, MERCILESS WAR initiated by a country with a crazy KGB rat at the wheel. Watch this video where a Russian soldier is interviewed in Ukraine to understand more: ruclips.net/video/KPh7VDM11is/видео.html
Only Russian soldiers and their transports being shot down.
Extremely well done video, very impressed.
Who was the genius who thought it was a good idea to fly commercial passenger jets over a war zone?
Financial interests
Well it happens all the time. I mean I've flown over a war zone at least 3 times in my life time. Because they never target commercial planes while this was just a war crime.
The commercial plane is a white arse plane with red and blue lining across the plane's body.
Its not just MH17 flown there, a lot actually plane flown too over there. Its just seem these plane got badly target by those missile
@@kanzai12 Its not badly target if they have the missile perfect positioned to explode near the cockpit (did not hit but the splash damage hits the cockpit) they had it lock for a while and they mis identified them as so called 'Russian Aircraft'.
MH17, flown using a 17 year old 777 was shot down on the 17th day of the 7th month of the year. What a coincidence...
and the name Vladolf Pootler has 7 letters each
this video was uploaded on the 17 as well.
Hmmmmmm
As of 25 April 2022, this video has 71k+ views...
Whats even more of a coincidence, is that the aircraft of MH17 (9M-MRD) was first ever flown on 7/17/1997. The attack on the same aircraft occurred on 7/17/2014 exactly *17* years later.
Very tastefully done. I appreciate the effort
Thanks Airspace.
l was aware of the incident but not all of the details. Truly tragic.
Unfortunately this isn't "unthinkable". The US has shot down Iranian passenger plane. Iran shot down a Ukrainian airliner. Awful tragedies probably due to human error, lack of safety controls and modern weapon systems that can kill without seeing the target. 😭
You forgot about the Soviets. They shot TWO Korean airliners.
Ukraine shot down a Russian airliner. So wouldn't surprise me of they shot down MH17 as well
@@asdf3568 nope
@@andrewstorm8240 Yeah ofc. Because you already have a bias against Russia. Who cares about truth?
@@tiadaid one of which was violating Soviet airspace heavily and didnt comply to the warning shots
I cant believe this was 8 years ago
Rip to all the lives lost
This channel deserves many more subscribers.
Flightradar POV : Singapore Airlines in the same way when MH17 shot down ober Ukrainian airspace. But in different altitude.
Really like the new graphics 👌 😎
Well done!
I literally when in RUclips to see if you uploaded a video and this was at the top of my feed I know this’ll be a great video as always keep up the great work
Chris had uploaded it much earlier.. but as a 'private' video
Changed the restriction and made it public now
How horrific it must have been for the passengers.
Yeah man this is the stuff of nightmares indeed. I would think that there were many passengers still alive and conscious as they witnessed the plane breaking apart and other passengers getting thrown from the plane 30,000 ft in the sky.
I haven’t heard of this news yet, thanks for bringing it to my attention! This is tragic!
That's two. Korean Airlines 007 was also shot down by Moscow rules.
first flight on 17 july, last flight on 17 july, what a big coincident
Timely subject. The current situation in Ukraine makes me feel the way I did during the Cold War.
Bro how old are you
@@acracing6205 I'm 61.
@@Al-ih1en I hope not but things aren't going Putin's way. I don't know what he might do out of desperation.
@@Al-ih1en
Don’t believe ANYTHING you get off the media; especially after 2 years of COVID lies.
@@Al-ih1en
I’m looking forward to the news saying Russia had a COVID weapon... wait... for... it...
I cancel my day when you upload
I thoroughly remember this day and the weeks that followed, at the time I was only 16, and this for me was the first time I remember getting interested and lost in the seeking out anytthing to do with this crash. To me MH-17 and the annexation of crimea is my version of the Iraq War-9/11 even though I did not lose anything, my mind and eyes were glued to the news reports and anything to do with MH-17
Russian or Ukrainian SAM operator: "we have destroyed a nearby enemy cargo plane"
Nearby AWACS: "acknowledged, also keep and eye out for a passenger jet that just disappeared from radar nearby"
SAM operator: "blyat"
This is exactly the information that broadcast news no longer reports.
Thanks you for your journalistic effort to provide the facts.
What stone have you been living under? The story of MH17 is very well known and have been in the news many times back then.
@@MrStian78 Please forgive my ignorance on this incident, my only source
of information is the main stream media in the United States, and they have not reported
any factual news for years. All we get here is political propaganda from the news telling
us what country we are supposed to hate this week. Blame Russia, blame Ukraine, blame China,
blame Afghanistan, blame Iran, ---- every week it's a different country.
This is why I said "Thank you for your journalistic effort to report the facts". I stand by my statement.
It get scarier when it first flew in 17 july 1997 and also Crash on 17 July 2014. In total it flew for 17 years until it got shot down. The plane got hit by a missiles at 17,000 feet in the air.
It wasn’t at 17,000 feet
Certainly a tragic event. 😞
Great video. However, this was a very sad day for aviation; a tragedy 😔 😢
i was 24 hours away from being on this flight (same company and route)
The one of the good reason why right now, Malaysia doesn't want involve in any Ukraine/Russian conflict is this.
Huh!
good point , putting this video directly helps the algo to recommend this video as now people are searching ukraine all over the internet
@@RealScarKnight i mean, in terms of military operations. Yeah. pretty sad that ukraine air defense doesn't know how to read and differentiate 32 clicks and 33 clicks (above no restrictions fly zone). tbh, i was mad due to this mass 'murder' not just because im from Malaysia. but the fact its a white plane and no warning shots with red tracers, no interceptors. just shoot to kill on the pilots. FAA just believed it's an accident. I call that bullshit. morons
Well, Malaysia is a member of NAM.
@@bangerxshane Same as well as India
Thank you for donating to Ukraine. Greetings from Belarus
Thank you for supporting Ukraine. :) Politicians have too much power. I hope your country's leader steps away from Putin and his atrocities.
@@Al-ih1en Yeah. Money powers the world, and corruption, sadly. Putin is estimated to have $70B dollars.
@@Al-ih1en Yep: Money + establishing the former pre-1991 USSR are Putin's motives. Control over natural gas running through Ukraine, and the country's population. Putin needs to be arrested at this point.
What an apt time to revisit this horrible event 😔 Thank you for donating to Ukraine!
The algorithm showed me this, and I put a like and comment to hopefully show this to others.
I remeber this well..couldnt believe an airline could have 2 terrible events in a matter of weeks...this was when live leaks was about and people put up all the crash site videos..horrific.
It was 4 months apart
I still cannot fathom how two unspeakable tragedies involving the same aircraft and same airline happened in the space of a few months? What are the odds? MH had virtually nothing happen until 2014/15
Really interresting
This was so hard to watch😭 i had a classmate that died on this flight, where is the justice 😭where?
This video perfectly matches with what could happen again
It's hard to determine who's firing since both sides use the same missile however I'm curious which genius letting mh17 fly pass that dangerous airspace.
To be fair, flying through conflicts with only one side having air power is common. Lots of flights fly over Iraq and Syria. Before it was the airlines responsibility as to whether they wanted routes to pass over conflict zones. Other airlines chose not to fly over Donbas, but Malaysia, Air India, and others continued to fly routes. So to answer you’re question, that responsibility fell on Malaysian Airlines
The aircraft got shot down on its first flight day.
That would be like a baby taking first steps day.
Putin needs to be brought to justice
Good video.
I'm from malaysia n heard some people saying that they deserve the attack from russia because of this incident...
I was like "bruh u cant just blame the whole country for some people mistake", what happen to MH17 is really tragic but so is the war they are facing currently, many innocent people's life has been ruined because of it. If someone did a bad thing, he/she is the only one that should be count accountable for the action, not the whole family. My hearts goes to every victim that suffer from any kind of horrible event.
Honestly this fell more on Malaysian Airlines for continuing their routes along Donbas. Countries are not responsible for their airspace unless there’s a large air war going on. Plenty of civilian airliners and cargo flights flew over Iraq and Syria
@@thedesertrat_9514 i dont really know about aviation n war so yea maybe its our mistake for being careless, well i dont want to blame anyone though. lets just make this incident as something we can prevent from happening again 😌
good video
Rest in peace
Sad that history repeated itself, same sort of thing happened with Lusitania where it was downed.
1:14 inconsistency between subtitles and audio (1997 vs 1999)
1997 is correct
I got confused when i heard "no aa weapon can reach the crusing alt of the aircraft" because if i remember (dunno if it's real or fake) the soviets shot down a U2 at 70.000 alt
missiles can even reach low earth orbit satellites today.
in 30k ft you are safe against stinger missiles or manpads, but not against heavy anti aircraft systems
@@simonm1447 that's terrifying
Oh no that was a real incident. Happened in 1960. Prior to, the Soviets did not have a weapon capable of flying high enough to reach the U2. Eventually their Surface to Air capabilities got better and the Soviets developed the S-75 Dvina which could shoot down at a max altitude of 82,000 ft
The report from the Dutch Joint Investigation Team really demonstrates the incredible extent to which they went to prove that this plane was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile. From reconstructing the strike in 3D, precisely locating the missile outside the aircraft, measuring the time difference from various microphones picking up the explosion, analyzing the shrapnel recovered from the pilots bodies, and more. There is absolutely *no doubt* that this is what happened, and any claims of the contrary are either uninformed or just plain Russian disinformation.
If you're interested in learning more, I would highly recommend checking it out. Look up "debcd724fe7breport_mh17_crash" and you'll find the PDF directly.
It's also worth mentioning the contributions from the open-source intelligence group Bellingcat in this investigation. They helped a lot with geotagging photos and videos of the Buk launcher, and made it possible to track its movements in the days before and after the shoot down - search for "The Open Source Investigation Three Years Later" to see what they managed to find out. They do amazing work, not just in this case.
The investigation, instead of an investigation, was engaged in falsification, on May 24, 2018, at a press conference, the investigation showed parts of a rocket that never flew or exploded and claimed that this rocket may have shot down MN-17 - this is real insanity.
@@user-vv9sl9ln2e Russia bot, please include some credible sources.
@@samik83
I think the 9-11 NTSB report is from a Russian bot, like you.
@@user-vv9sl9ln2e Please refute all 279 pages of the report. I'll wait.
@@desmond-hawkins Let’s start with the omission of raw radar data supplied by Russia, which the investigation team initially denied having received, then later said they did, but couldn’t “decrypt”, which is BS testified by radar technicians. Meanwhile the Ukrainian radar station was conveniently not working at the time of the missile attack.
So Malaysia Airlines removed the 777s from their fleet
one question what happened to the 100+ pilots who were flying the 777s after they probably heard the news the 777s are being removed from Malaysia so did all the other pilots flying the 777 go to a another airline with 777s ?
Some might have gone to work for other airlines, many probably would have been transferred to training operations for the a330, as it was the replacement for Malaysia's 777s
Many of them went to Middle East airlines which have a large fleet of 777s. Some retired, some converted to other planes in the fleet
Every man and his dog is flying over the black sea, albeit a little more south. The war criminal has navy ships there. I hope the airlines know what they’re doing. 🧐
hi what is your setting for FS2020
ultra
@@AirspaceVideos nice quantum computer
I knew nothing of this incident before your video. Terrible situation then and now. Thank you for taking part of what you earn and donating. 🇺🇦 ✌🏻
@@InForTheLonghaul Truth. Should have said incident.
Yeah, to say accident. It's a white plane. no accident can come from that when we're talking about flying restrictions, bad identification and so called shoot to kill
@@established_on_the_run But did you know all about the Kardashians, all reality shows and the lives of celebrities?
The flight was overbooked but they still waited for inbound passengers?
This sounds exactly in line with my experiences with the airline buisness hahaha
Damn this was hard to watch, 80 of the victims younger than 18? Bro…
The Story of MH17 that is shot down by Russia, Sounds like a Tom Clancy Story
im from malaysia.and how to keep fingger to russia? ukraine?
Horror for the people in the back
Great video!
Well for what they did to this flight, they are paying for it now. No karma will go injustice!
The visuals
Did they have any motive along the lines of terrorism, or just not careful what they targeted?
Bunch amateurs with deadly equipment donated by Putin and a trigger happy finger…
They shipped the launcher into Ukraine and then hid it in Russia again it's pretty obvious it was a false flag and they were trying to blame Ukraine. Probably wanted an excuse to invade back then when they were still weak.
It's likely they didn't properly identify their target. There were broadcasts on Russian news claiming separatists shot down a Ukrainian military aircraft, which is likely what the rebels mistook the 777 for.
Closing airways and bleeding money from Ukraine
It's a double threat to MH, a very unfortunate one
Finally.
Why doesn't boeing have flares on their planes
this truly was a tragedy, I feel bad for the families and loved ones of those who died
An oxygen mask on 😔 god damn that's horrific to think about.
Go Netherlands and Australia!
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IMO ALLEGEDLY
In no way the separatists really thought this is a Ukrainian army plane. I don't buy into that theory.
They would have to have been really fucking stupid...
And it won't get any better. Thanks Comrade Putin KGB.
This flight has too many references to the number 7 including MH 370 of the same airline earlier in the same year
Algo
Malaysia airlines is the most unlucky airline
Yeah because the russian investigator cannot differentiate between a fighter plane missile and a sam missile..... Duuhhhh
i love your videos , but why make this documentary right when there is a severe conflict ??
especially because it's there right now - and many seem to not know that the events of back then and now are linked.
Got the video as.. uploaded 12 minutes back!
Then our country Minister can't do anything as they are scare lmao
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Didn't Jet airliner come from West?Why would Ukrainian Air defense target the plane that's coming from safe zone of their own airspace? Did Ukrainian fighter jet go over hostile Seperatist controlled area and attack it from front? Seperatists had so many AA's and shot down so many Ukranian jets and helis that Ukraine halted all its extensive air operations and limited it to only low flying helicopter attacks.
karma is back.. ukrain n russia must responsible on this.
RUSSIA is responsible for this.
Let’s face it, if it wasn’t a Malaysia Airlines 777, but instead a British Airways or Air France one, Russia would have directly initiated World War III. They targeted Flight 17 knowing it was being operated by the flag carrier of a nation that did not have the political backing to actually fight back. Those separatists had 160 choices of which aircraft to shoot down that day, and they CHOSE to shoot down an aircraft that would allow them to essentially get away with murder. The Russians blatant and obvious lies after the fact, their tampering with the wreckage and the fact they didn’t allow investigators on site for months after the fact is particularly despicable.
This crash has made my blood boil ever since it happened, and the fact that it led to a very safe airline retiring a perfectly good aircraft type with plenty of life left in it, based on nothing but nonsense superstition just twists the knife further.
It’s hard to believe that a sophisticated anti aircraft missile system can’t identify a civilian airliner when every smartphone can have an app showing all their information. Total incompetence by the aa operator or a deliberate strike.
The Buk system used doesn’t have a sophisticated system to identify civilian aircraft, but their advanced enough to counter military aircraft, smart bombs, and cruise missiles. It’s up to the operator to identify the type of aircraft. Unfortunately, they listed it as an unknown aircraft and thought it was a Ukrainian Military transport. Sometimes, weapons aren’t created to add protection against civilian targets. Militaries want them to be as cheap and affordable as possible
Slava Ukraini!!!
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Shouldn't you be brexiting or something?
@@AirspaceVideosCurrently.. Getting some ice cream
Well critiqued 👍🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
woooo the Putin fanboys won't like this one.
This accident has nothing to do with putin he didn't give order to shoot that airplane.
This tragedy is why I have absolutely no sympathy to the separatists in the Donbass whatsoever. I’ll cheer when Donetsk and Luhansk are retaken and the victims of MH17 and the crap going on are avenged.
Should've closed the air space Ukraine
cant say so. Take somalia's airspace for example, theres a fcking bloody civil war going on there, but the airspace is still opened for everyone cause none of the sides are armed with SAM missles. The very first day in donbass didnt involve with planes and missles, so they thought it was still safe for airliners...
that time Russia denied providing arms to seperatist terrorist so they thought seperatist didn't had capabilities and Russian military capable of identifying planes
I feel like whenever some sh*t happens around or regarding ukraine or russia, those both just point fingers at each other... Just like the latest drone incident in Zagreb... Childish...
Russia has a long history of false flag attacks
There's pictures of the bodies still strapped to their seats that can be found via Google Images. They look like skin balloons that have had all the meat blasted out of them by compressed air.
And another one bites the dust …
The plane was disgusting inside too
You make it sound like they are fighting somalian pirates on the Suez.
There's no safe altitude when you're fighting Russia.
The criminals, because that's exactly what they are, responsible for clearing/using a flightpath (airlines included) over a warzone where not one but two planes were shot down before, should be in jail and their money should go to the families. This is comon sense. Personaly, I believe a resigantion of a gevernment official is in order as well.
Totally agree that Airlines have a duty of care to their PAX (is that `Airspeak` for a package?) and should take Political and Conflict issues into account when planning routes rather than trying to save FUEL! - Human Lives are MORE valuable than Jet-Juice. Who`s betting on Russia as the culprit? After this current conflict is settled Russia, and especially Mobster Putin, will have a lot of explaining to do to the World community, War Crimes and Theft as a start.
They'll reach a peace agreement. Ukraine will agree never to join NATO. Russia will withdraw and pretend to save face. Putin will carry on like nothing happened. Europe will continue to buy Russian fuel.
Pax means people.
Jessss
Freaking Putin