Emotional Breakdown leads to Crash | US Bangla Flight 211
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- Опубликовано: 6 апр 2022
- US-Bangla Airlines Flight 211 was a scheduled international passenger flight from Dhaka, Bangladesh, to Kathmandu, Nepal, that crashed on 12 March 2018 while landing, killing 51 of the 71 people aboard. At the time of the accident, it was the deadliest aviation disaster involving a Bangladeshi airline, and the deadliest incident involving the Bombardier Dash 8 Q400.
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This is not the first time a plane is lost due to a captain losing his situational awareness while the FO is doing nothing due to culture and high hierarchy in an Asian country, and it won’t be the last time. This is a major problem in that part of the world especially with retired military pilots
In this case though, it was not necessarily due to culture reasons that the FO did nothing. It was the difference in flight experience. The FO was still learning how to fly the type of airplane they were flying. Investigators believed that the FO might have been scared to question the captain who had way more flight experience than she did
@@emerybonner7973 yeah idk when the guy puts it in a 40 degree bank around an airport with ATC being like 'you're headed toward the wrong runway!!!' you should assume the captain has lost his marbles
@@nutsackmania yeah. He was apparently facing some accusations made by a former coworker. Idk what the accusations were, but of all the times for him to become overcome with emotions, it just had to be while flying an airplane. In my opinion, he should not have been allowed to fly while he was under investigation
As a Bangladeshi. I'm proud that others are spreading awareness of this devastating crash. Abid Sultan is not the kind of pilot you want to be
Bangladesh is known to have low standards for flights and that’s a fact.
@@AryaEZAF passenger DC-10s till 2014.
Instead of being PROUD, be thankful. South Asians seem to sprinkle the word "proud" everywhere without context.
Okay, I hear you, good point you brought out. This screwing each other at the work place never ends in good way. This is especially ture in the field of aviation, you can't play this bull shit and get away with it, not flying. You just can't do it. I don't think anyone can blame this accident because it's a third world country, no way! This accident was due in part because this man could not keep his dick in his pants, and this bitch couldn't keep her dam legs close. When you are responsible for lives you have own planes there is no way you can chance this form of sexual relationship. when you fly people for a living you are on duty 24 hours a day, and 7 days a week. Safety starts with the airlines, then the pilots.
@@AryaEZAF I agree, India and Bangladesh has the lowest standard for flights in the World in my opinion
The other videos on this story don't show the holding pattern issue visually, which I always had mixed up with the two turns past the runway.
This one is easily the best one.
Three turns actually, the last turn on the final where the pilot tries to align himself initially with the runway, still needs revision. If you look at the aviation safety network diagram, between sticker 23-24.
I agree. The holding pattern issue is a key fact here. But the pilots had the option to do a go around. None of them even tried it. The first officer looked like she had no clue what's going on, understandably as it was her first flight to Kathmandu, and the Pilot was also mentally stressed.
@@balanibakits6488 Indeed.
I would say she was both intimidated and overwhelmed and the Q400 was flying like an F-16 at one point.
An F-16 being flown by a demented, unhinged prick of truly historic proportions.
Well he was in air force. Maybe she thought he knew what he's doing
Even if she didn't know the captain very well, she surely knew he was unhinged when he broke into tears and stopped following protocol.
And being a female, the first officer had no option to question the male pilot. That almighty pilot syndrome is exacerbated by gender.
I am from Kathmandu, and I personally know the chief ATC of the Kathmandu airport. This was a scary day for all, and the loss of life was so unnecessary.
I still remember the day it crashed, I used to live close to the airport. My sister woke me up saying there is an plane crash at the airport. My heart was pounding heavily after hearing the news and I could see a dark plume of smoke coming from the crash. I could only imagine what the deceased and their parents might have suffered.
"He used language that will get my channel demonetized faster than you can hit the like button."
That's one of the funniest and probably the most creative thing I've heard on RUclips! LOLOLOLOL
RIP, from a former airline pilot in the USA
It's tough to watch these videos involving loss of lives,
....but critical to maintain both actual safety, and a culture of safety.
When civil aviation started, life expectancy of mail pilots flying in biplanes was counted in single years. 100 years later and it is MUCH safer than driving a car. I can't name another mode of transportation where safety has improved so much. This is a tradition to be proud of IMHO.
@@fireiceuk9221
Yep
....the USA's NTSB consistently shows about 5 accidents annually per 100,000 hours of flying, and under 2 fatalities.
Over 95% of fatalities consistently are in private /non-commercial flying
.....Such as non-instrument pilots killing themselves after illegally flying into the clouds, or due to making the horrible choice to fly in marginal weather at night over water with no instrument training, like JFK jr, RIP.
Here in Florida, we even lose private pilots from time to time due to running out of fuel because they didn't want to pay more in the Bahamas.
Though confronting at times, better to learn from other people's mistakes, than to make them yourself.
Yes but you never know when you are going to be the one that they learn from :)
This must have been very scary for the first officer. RIP everyone involved
This is probably one of the craziest air incidents I have ever learned about. Virtually no incompetence, or malfunction was to blame for the crash, just insanity.
Um they were clearly incompetent
Of course..but this was beyond that..into insanity territory
This one is shocking on many levels. It’s easy to question why the FO didn’t take a more active role, but given the behavior of the Captain, who was far more senior, how would she have managed to apply her CRM training under such circumstances (especially on her first day!)? I mean, holy smokes, the Captain was crying and trying to light up a cigarette on the FD! No sane pilot, after clearly having a missed approach, attempts a completely non stabilized “approach” by diving towards the field (WTF?!).
Clearly the Captain was in bad shape right from the start; and it only got worse through the duration of the flight. Honestly, if I were sitting in that right seat, on that day, I really don’t know what I’d have done; you don’t expect that the person next to you is having a complete meltdown.
The only way this incident was avoidable was (much like Germanwings 9525) by having checks (airlines, regulators, etc.) in place to prevent a mentally unstable pilot from flying. Even then, you may not be able to entirely engineer out all the risks of the human equation, in all circumstances.
indeed, well said.
Captain was a check pilot with the airline. FO was new, inexperienced, and female. Cultural and workplace factors made FO's intervention unlikely.
it is easier said than done, but under the circumstances of what happened on the ground, the first officer probably should have refused to take the plane into the air with this captain... he was already quite visibly mentally incapacitated even before they took off... not blaming her in any way though... under the circumstances, I understand I quite possibly would be scared out of my wits.
on the last few seconds, I do understand the reasons for the captains decision...
my feeling is, that not trusting the navigation instruments, they just about got a visual of the runway through a gap in the rolling mountain mist... the captain (more so in his skewed irrational state) feared that if he went around he might not locate the runway again, thus, the basically insane but also not totally illogical desperation to land immediately whatever the odds were stacked against him... "I am screwed, if I try it, I might somehow land now, if I go around, I will probably get lost again & crash anyway" was his thought process. in this light, you can see why he did what he did...
@@stanislavkostarnov2157 He was actually disoriented. Maybe he was also fearful of hitting the mountain if performed a go around. I'm not a pilot, but if I was, I wouldn't have flown a plane if I'm not mentally and physically fit to perform the job.
what is the procedure for a captain losing their mind mid flight??? Could the FO have had him forceably removed from the cockpit?
yes
They’re trained to play Kenny G. to stop the pilot from jumping off the edge
@@tambrody2684 This is a well known fact.
I’m Bangladeshi and I’m impressed by your explanation and video. Keep it on going
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@@sdaiwepm no. Greendale
Great job to manage to explain crashes, especially this one, in just 11 minutes, short, concise and easy to understand for those interested in these crashes but are not trained in all the systems, naming components that are a component of another component of a system that is imbedded into another system which has many backups but they all failed because that other component broke and set off a chain reactions and eventually the fanblade broke off and the plane crashed.
It’s such a delight, I know I’ve said it before but I keep being impressed 😊
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Thanks again Airspace.
Well explained & illustrated (as always).
A tragic event.
First, this story is so sad. Secondly, I really enjoy your work! Thanks again number one!
Man, I just can't believe that bad attitude was just being one of the primary factors that caused the lives of nearly all of the passengers onboard; and that reminds me of BEA flight 548 and NWA Airlink flight 5719 other cases where it involved one of the crew members showing negative behavior as one of the factors in these crashes as well.
Your production values, crisp narration and no nonsensical approach of making these mini documentaries is greatly appreciated and is inspiring.
All our heart🥺 goes out yo aspieing youngster F.O. (whose dreams got prematurely crushed) and all the families involved in this tragic, 100% avoidable loss🥺 of lives.
As someone from the suncontinent (i am in India)
I can fully relate to the cultural aspects too.. and how the F.O. must have been rorn between the excitment/ anxiety of an obviously difficult sector .. versus the situation with the PIC.
_Kaash 🥺 ke un PIC ko kabhi medical clearance milti hee nahi_
If only that pilot had never got the clearance from the psychiatrists
Yes - when he ended up together with a shy, young female FO in the Cockpit and 69 other human beings behind him in the Cabin it was too late.
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@@sailaab 😔
A dreadful series of errors that lead to this completely avoidable tragedy. Forgetting to cancel the holding pattern was arguably the first hole in the "swiss cheese" effect of a tragedy where mistakes/ oversights are the holes that line up resulting in tragedy.
I dunno if I'd qualify a sudden, violent mental breakdown resulting in the deaths of 50 + innocent people as "a dreadful series of errors" makes it sound like a number of otherwise sane, competent professionals innocently stumbled into rounding errors. A man's psyche utterly snapped at the worst possible moment.
@@lizc6393 It wasn’t a sudden, violent mental breakdown, but appeared to be so at the end. There were definitely signs, however subtle. Mr. Sims is probably more accurate than he can imagine when he said this crash resulted from a “Swiss cheese” affect. Unfortunately, the pilot’s brain cannot be looked at to confirm.
I should have been more clear, sorry. He had no track record for this sort of behavior, and was apparently considered quite rational and competent, so manifesting symptoms like he did over the course of a single flight is what I would consider sudden. Also, if starting to sob and exhibit paranoia and anger, flying the plane like a stealth bomber resulting in 50 casualties doesn't count as violent, what does?
@@lizc6393 Liz, your comment sounds sensible but there was no violence in the ordinary sense of the word ... not like the violence of a copilot overlooked for promotion and who took his frustrations out on the crew with a hammer on FedEx Flight 705. From the outset, this pilot was under the debilitating affects of tiredness and that is like being drunk. His emotions were easily compromised in such a state and his agitation, caused by tiredness, lead to some poor decisions and oversights regarding proper procedure. My own opinion is that once a pilot submits their resignation, for whatever reason, they should have their flying status suspended and be given other duties until their resignation date. In all respects, this was a tragedy that would have been avoided were the pilot not suffering tiredness and the affects of poor concentration whilst in a critical role.
@@bootz0409 Goodness, I forgot about flight 705... What a horrifying case.
I stand corrected on the issue of violence. To qualify it seems to require some degree of intent! deprivation, and it absolutely feels like being drunk.
If they can put it down to exhaustion, why not reformulate/reorder pilot's schedules to allow more regular hours and reasonable EddFed. To
The cultural obstacles in South Asian and other countries plays a majorly negative role in the Cockpit. Also in this case the FO was a young Lady on her first International flight. It is well known how we treat our women in South Asia. Even in the case of the two Air India Express crashes in Kerala, the FO’s request for a go around was ignored. Both crafts landed under unstabilized conditions, with tragic consequences. The same was evident in the 1990 crash of an Indian Airlines Airbus, when the FO’s suggestion for a go a round was not heeded and the Captain in Command failed to follow SOP. This is one of the major areas of concern when flying in these Airlines, where crew training and failure to follow SOP and failure to communicate between the Pilots.
2:57 "He used language that would get my channel demonetized faster than you can hit the like button"
That was so smooth.
at 7:00 ".... but anyway..." is the perfect summary of this shitshow.
That is so sad that it was first officer's first flight and she lost her life. Great narration as usual.
Yes, this accident was 100% preventable. There is a universal rule in crew CRM that if one pilot notices the other pilot is not mentally or physically prepared for flight they can cancel the flight and notify the company. This F.O. had an opportunity when the Captain was yelling and cursing at the ground crew to intervene and advise the Captain that it appears that he is under a lot of stress and has displayed actions that make it impossible to carry on with the flight. That simple act could have saved them all. In all of the major airlines around the world have a policy that specifically addresses this type of issue. The last thing you want to do as a pilot is take off and have this type of anger and frustration while in flight. It was an issue and it cost them their lives.
That sounds like a truly vital rule! Although I can completely understand why young, less experienced co-pilots may hesitate to challenge in this way...? Particularly in instances like this where cultural factors of patriarchy & respect for seniority are still strong. Just re-emphasises the enormous importance of healthy CRM in aviation safety!! 😔
I feel so sorry for the FO in this accident case, seems like she must have been completely terrified of what was going on? I wish she had felt capable to speak up, but can understand why that could be hard, particularly with the captain already ranting and being so verbally aggressive to everyone. RIP all of those who perished here 😢
Wow. So you're putting it 100% on the FO? WTF?
Ngl, she probably would have been fired for aborting the flight
@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 Yes, indeed - and not to forget: He was not only the Captain but also her Instructor=> she totally depended on his judgment to be able to continue her profession as Pilot.
@@mallowtonmouse Better to be fired and alive than hired and dead.
lost 12 of my brothers and sisters. we were all the same meds school. and at times like that the college did nothing to help us. all i got left is memories of them. miss u all di and dai
I’m surprised such mental breakdowns aren’t caught by psychological evaluations earlier on. For the captain to come apart like that, all the emotional trauma must’ve remained totally untreated. A more experienced first officer might have handled the slack better, of course, telling the captain to focus or return and also monitoring his actions closely during landing.
more like hogtied and ducked taped to a chair outside the cockpit
@@seeingeyegod If I be Frank and you be Ernest…
I feel do terribly for the young FO here, trying to deal with a senior captain aggressively going to pieces in the midst of active flight 😟
People mental health can change in an instant depending on type of situation you are put in. A psychological evaluation a day, week, month or 10 years doesn’t catch everything!!
@@fgrau7376 No, basic mental health doesn't change quickly at all, but the display of overt symptoms may - and people become adept with age at hiding their triggers, but I’m certain this captain need not be poked much by an experienced psychiatrist to unravel - so much more so since some of the triggers were knows from previous episodes - as were his reaction patterns.
The FO, being 25, a relatively new hire (2016), the first female pilot at this airline, and her first time on this flight, is at 0% fault. In their culture, being a younger woman also may have contributed to her unwillingness to overrule the older, male Captain (she repeatedly called him "Sir"). The FO was the one who caught all the errors the captain had made.
Forget CRM. This is 100% on the captain. Even with all their other mistakes, he could have easily instituted a go around, but didn't.
Lovely to hear the understand for the FO in the comments. I really relate to her, as a female who had successful careers in 2 male dominated fields. In the 80s, when I was on the 2nd of those careers, with plenty of experience dealing with men, respectfully, and being professional, responding well to crises, I was completely destroyed by an older male airline pilot I was sailing with on a large cruising sailboat (friend's husband). Note that I was completely checked out and allowed to rent that same class and model, and could sail it by myself, if necessary. He screamed orders at me, belittled me, and nothing I did was ok. If he had abdicated his duties on the bridge, I was second guessing myself so badly, so distracted and demeaned, that I doubt I could have taken that boat home safely, esp as it was a very difficult, high traffic (with container ship channel), and dangerous area (but one I was very, very familiar with). Oh, I could have if I had a few minutes to get myself together, but that would have required that he shut the f*** up, move aside, and that nothing bad was about to happen. He also hit me where it hurt as far as my male patriarchy stuff and my brain just quit working. Plus he was the big pilot guy, which he never let me forget. If you don't have a second to comprehend the situation, because it just keeps coming at you, you can't find your center and take over.
So if I fell apart, on a familiar craft in a very familiar area I could navigate easily, I can only imagine how the young FO felt here with no experience at that difficult airport, in a much more patriarchal culture, with someone losing it continually. I had to quit sailing with that couple. He was a huge risk taker, as well, and I wasn't into playing Russian roulette. I just hoped that he was completely different in the cockpit... He also started working on beers once we were underway, which didn't help and which is illegal, exceptionally dangerous, and unprofessional. I worried that he would completely lose it one day, due to whatever stress at work he was working out on the water, but on land, no one would know that about him. If I knew what I now know, I would possibly alert his company, although he was nearly chief pilot, so in the mid 80s, probably wouldn't have helped, esp coming from a woman.
More like the airlines fault it’s clearly seen the captain was in no mental capacity to even drive a car much less fligh a plane and yet the forced him
But this is why we have First Officers.
@@Fomites Yes it is, but I'd imagine even a well seasoned FO wouldn't be expecting their Captain to have a complete and utter psychic collapse, unprovoked, mid shift. Could have been handled better obviously, and I think the reasons it wasn't are pretty apparent, but goddamn it's so incredibly bizarre and disturbing it would give anyone not working in a literal warzone pause.
I am pretty sure she wasn't the first female pilot for the airline as the pilot had trained another female FO before the current.
The captain's lack of sleep was also a factor.
CB: Insomnia is a symptom of depression.
Thank you very much!👍 It´s a really disturbing event, still after nearly five years now. The video covers really up the steps towards this crash. And this crash once again shows that mental problems can be as deadly as physical illnesses.
RIP to all of the victims.😥
Thanks. I'm From Bangladesh. Flown with US Bangla for Several times.
Nice video, well explained and well interpreted to make us understand the exact causes of the accident, poor passengers RIP to the dead
Excellent presentation and explanation of this incident. . . 👍
Captain should have been grounded immediately on stating his resignation, removed from all access to aircraft and airport facilities.
Your sense of humor is on turbo in this one! :-)
The captain may have been at the controls, but he wasn’t in the cockpit.
Yes.
It’s funny because I lived in Katmandu when this accident happened and you would never hear about it in the press all flights were just cancelled from tripivan international the airport and nobody really knew what had happened.
interesting 🤔
Another reason at 55 I have stopped traveling abroad.
Wow - nothing really to add to your already well constructed and easy to follow narrative. As was said, with the gender/age/seniority/experience gap this would have been a really tough one for anyone - but with the cultural factors too, that poor young woman was doomed to the fate the Captain served to her. How extraordinary to have to hear that sort of outburst and the obvious effect it had on his flying. Absolutely tragic.
Your work is so impressive.
The mental health issues that seem to be almost becoming common place in the airline industry are both alarming and scary. Ultimately the passengers keep paying the price :(
Something needs to be done!
Incidents like this definitely make one question the efficacy of ongoing mental health checks & supports within the various airlines. (And I can only imagine things must be worse with all the insanity of recent years' pandemic disruptions?).
It makes me wonder if in some firms, there may be a reluctance to effectively monitor or question their pilots too closely, perhaps due to cultural stigma around mental health issues, cost of potential interventions, even pressure from the pilots themselves who have concerns about losing their likelihood if any issues are noted...?
Although one wishes that all pilots would show integrity and not put others' lives at risk by flying while super-tired or super-stressed, there seems in some airlines to be a culture of routinely pushing themselves in this space, which really concerns me...?
@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 All good points I do believe it is within the culture of the airline industry that, as a well paid pilot the expectations set by the airlines do very little to encourage these pilots to step forward without fear of retaliation retribution or whichever from losing their positions as good pilots, but with all to human abilities that require serious downtime and relaxation.
I can see it now, you go in and let your bosses know you are feeling the pressure of ontime flights thousands of hours in atmo and instead of whisking them off to a 30 day all they can get pampering at a spa and resort they get 2 days off and told to go home and put up their feet?! Which to me is the 70's way of thinking and counter productive to real stress and real rest. I think the airline industry is tough enough with all its costs and regulations and unfortunately like all big businesses the human toll is always counted seemingly, last?
Loses Situational Awareness… activates Grand Theft Auto player mode.
Very good video!!
This captain was kicked out of the Bangladesh airforce for his psychological issues. Then he didn't work as a pilot for some years and then joined US Bangla airlines. The good things is US Bangla has improved their service quality and fleet after this incident.
I saw plane crash investigation videos on TV on National Geographic and i saw this one. As a Dash 8 lover this crash hits me extra hard. My local airport where i`ve lived for 21 years only takes on Dash 8 100-300`s.
This Dash 8 was originally flown by SAS, later by the now-defunct German Regional Airline Augsburg Airways and bought by US-Bangla in 2014.
Great point about the cultural aspect where a junior officer would not dare to tell the captain what to do.🙄
great video again
"We have the runway in sight Sir. Are we cleared to land?"- ironic last word by the captain.
While I was a lowly fueler, ramp rat when singing a tarmac tune I did see one airliner delayed when one pilot refused to fly with another. Good move when it becomes impossible to work well with a partner. Some many planes require two pilots. Pilots who recognize their emotional state and act accordingly are smart. Aviation is fraught with life and death situations even at mundane looking moments. I've thought about moments when I saw red and had punched someone before I knew what I was doing.
JEEEEEEESUS that's a rough one just graduated in aeronautical science makes me comfortable knowing that will never happen among my generational peers with all the human factors lessons were bombarded with
The name of Jesus is worthy of honor.
“…The Lion of Judah who conquered the grave
He was David's root and the Lamb who died to ransom the slave
Is He worthy? Is He worthy?
Of all blessing and honor and glory
Is He worthy of this?
He is…”
Never say never
Yeahhhh, but aviation didnt start yesterday, and they had been too bombarded with human factor lessons....at the end of the day, this is the human factors, and most of the accidents happens due to it.
You wouldn't even try to land a single piston that way. Almost like a pilot suicide. Great graphics by the way and a well told story.
which simulator is this for surface structures
How close were they to hitting the Control tower in Katmandu
They missed it by less than 50 ft (15 m).
insanely close...
@@AirspaceVideos yeah, even the ATC staff were are horrified with what they had witnessed, not to mention that they couldn't sober the captain of the flight, which is not the fault they wished to bear along with another one the Bangladeshi NTSB accused.
Will you do TWA flight 800
Excellent 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🤩🤩
Can you make video on recent air accident in Nepal?
Wow. This one is kind of mind-blowing... As with so many of these analyses, once again major CRM problems seem to be a killer factor (if not THE major causative factor?)
There's clearly a lot of training that goes into that space for new pilots now, but I still get an impression that in some airline environments, historical cultural norms (esp. around respect for elders, collectivism, patriarchy, mental health stigma) may be counter-acting the efficacy of the training, and not being openly addressed...?
Is there any over-arching international air safety body which monitors how effectively various mandated industry safety measures are implemented across all the different nations/airlines/regions, and can help flag if any wider systemic problems are indicated...? I know there are national bodies such as the FAA, but is there any combined oversight at a global level that ensures that they too stay accountable...?
Wow I had anxiety watching this video. So many errors made. How could these two pilots make so many mistakes? I remember watching the crash video on Facebook.
It's important not to bring your personal problems to work. RIP
Smoothest like suggestion ever.
who tf smokes in the flight deck
I see many red flags in the pilot’s behavior that lead me to suspect he may have developed frontotemporal dementia, behavioral variant (bvFTD), a devastating brain disorder that tends to strike people in their 50s, but can hit earlier or later. It is the most common type of young-onset dementia.
He was agitated and insulted the flight crew because the pilot may have started having wild mood swings. He even started crying. Raging then sobbing is a sign of emotional lability. Sometimes they then quickly switch to euphoria.
The captain said he didn’t sleep the night before. The disorder disrupts circadian rhythms. Insomnia is a common complaint.
The monologue about another female officer he said disparaged him could be paranoia, or she did indeed say things about him, but totally inappropriate to bring up which shows lack of judgment.
The series of mistakes sound like his executive functioning was severely compromised.
Have to go back 2 to 3 three years and ask about small glitches in his personality that culminated, if my theory is correct, before this tragic “threshold event.”
I have my suspicions about the 53-year-old pilot of Missing Malaysia Flight 370 in 2014, and the 59-year-old co-pilot in the recent China Eastern crash.
What we know now there were indeed a couple of red flags in this case. And if the other female FO, about which he complained, had really said what he was implying - she would have been absolutely right.
Interesting comment
This one is painful to watch... RIP to the innocent.
Can you make video on Nepal's buddha air flight 101 crash?
Things can sometimes just creep up on you. I was having dinner with some guys one night. Everybody was in a good mood. Telling stories, making jokes, nothing seemed out of place. The very next day one of those guys put a gun in his mouth and killed himself. Nobody had any clue why he did it.
When in doubt, "TOGA! TOGA!". I wonder what was/is the CRM criteria/training of the Carrier?
Bangla….. Not really surprised
Sadly, it is a general custom of not to speak up against the senior hierarchy in any family, corporate, government settings that has been taught from the very early ages in the Indian subcontinent cultures. This tendency to not asking questions or standing up for oneself against the seniors/teachers/ old family members is THE toxic thing for the people to boil up their dissatisfactions inside and results in poor efficacy. It may explain the first officer’s reluctance to take charge.
As per the captain, Me on my right mind would not attempt to land that aircraft from such angle in even a video game, I think he was definitely under the influence. The toxicology report is just cover up.
May their souls rest in peace.
Damn, that thing was *truckin*
Wait, smoking in a plane flown in 2008? What the hell is going on with this airport and why is the copilot not doing anything about this? Smoking has been banned in planes back in the early 1990s.
What part of "mental breakdown" do you not understand?
2018! This Crash happened on March 12th, 2018.
Passengers can’t smoke on flights. I’m shocked that a working pilot can light up on the flight deck. 💨
they are prohibited from doing so, but this captain didn't care apparently!
What is the protocol for ATC to warn and advise an Aircraft to perform a missed approach under stabilized conditions? Especially in this incident where the Aircraft almost crashed into the control tower?
ATC actually tried to cancel landing clearance but in the mist of all the confusion atc accidently said takeoff clearance canceled.
The captain should have declared himself unfit to fly for medical reasons. Enlightened airlines accept this.
It's clear how mental illness plays a big part in this tragedy. Yet, neither investigating agencies nor media covering this accident; included trained phycologists in their panel. Reenactments regularly fail to understand how debilitating and severe untreated depression could become in such circumstances. The failure of regulating bodies or airline to detect and identify a pilot in distress is appalling, even though, there have been many high profile cases of pilot suicide to date.
Extremely sad chain of events... This clearly shows the importance of mental health in aviation, and how stigmatization by losing your medical and being viewed as 'weak' in certain cultures is preventing that pilots with mental health issues are promptly detected and being looked after properly.
Also, I have my concerns regarding ATC on the arrival airport. Even though their role is not fully narrated, I cannot understand why there were no terrain ahead warnings, go around instructions, or any intervention by ATC to prevent this unstable approach from happening. Actually, taking a look at the accident report these are various contributing factors mentioned:
p. Lack of assertiveness on the part of Air Traffic controller in monitoring the flight path of
the aircraft and not issuing a clear instruction to carry out a standard missed approach
procedure.
q. Lack of clear understanding and acknowledgment on the part of both ATC and the crew to
clearly understand each other's communication regarding the landing runway.
r. Lack on the part of the ATC to alert the crew of their actual position.CAAN should strengthen the capacity of the ATCs, by developing the appropriate training programme so that they become more assertive when handling the traffic and issuing
clearances to such traffic especially in the event of the abnormal or emergency situations.
So 20 passengers survived from the crash right??
47 out of 67 ???
Crazy
Struth! They let a nut case fly a plane and kill so many people, I feel for them and that poor unfortunate first officer who must have been totally rattled listening to the shit from the so called captain
Natural selection
This is very common in this region - senior pilots take advantage of their young trainee females. It's sheer luck that keeps such incidents from repeating.
Somebody wasn't paying attention in their Human Performance and Limitations refresher course. I wonder if I know either of them as I was involved in a flight school locally. Bringing sexual, personal and family matters into the cockpit is NEVER a good idea and I think we have proof. These types of behaviors are not completely uncommon in this culture as any extra-marital activities are so harshly viewed. Religion, like alcohol should be taken in moderation.
I think you are really missing the point. The point of the video even though it purely from an aviation point of view is that human factors are highly influential in aviation today. Addressing them can solve if not all but many issues going forward. You might think that people should keep their professional and personal life separate but there is a very fine line begin the two and it has been crossed many a times. How humans behave to a particular situation also depends on his state of mind. Worrying and having a mental breakdown mid flight really doesn’t help and it showed here.
@@saajanshah1820 I've been in this business for forty years. Flown as a commercial pilot in Alaska under very dangerous conditions and have been an engineer on everything from a Cessna 152 to a Boeing 747, I have some idea what I'm talking about. Recently I spent 5 years in Bangladesh and am familiar with these people. If you are having a breakdown, don't get in the aircraft; I cut my hand so bad one time, got blood poisoning and I had to take myself off flying status for a day. I made that decision even though the company was not pleased. What you are missing here is that if your mental or physical issues are going to prevent you from being the PIC and fly safely you need to take yourself off line. This NOT a business for little girls and boys. There is NO excuse for killing dozens of people because you have personal issues. I've seen instructors put some of these young pilots at risk, even killing one 19 year old girl because he was thinking with his penis. If someone killed my family because of this, I would not be very understanding.
@@Al-ih1en You are correct, we also know how hard the airlines push to make schedule. Wouldn't be the first time we have seen both flight crews and maintenance being pushed by the corporate powers to the point of breaking. 100 percent sir.
lmao what. Irrelevant of culture, and totally irrelevant of religion. And no, you shouldn't drink at all when flying.
This one has a lot in common with Egyptair 990. In this case I don’t think that the Captain was deliberately suicidal. But he was still under a disciplinary investigation regarding sexually harassing a co-worker. And possibly having an affair or coercing her into an unwanted sexual relationship. yeah, there’s a lot about this one they don’t say on the broadcast tv episode about it. Just like they rarely mention that the pilot on Egyptair 990 was accused of trying to sexually assault a hotel maid in New York, and had been informed by his boss, who was on the plane, that this flight would be his last. The common thing in both these flights is the management still let these men back into a cockpit. I mean this guy supposedly resigned, and they would not let him. That’s not how things were done in Nepal, or some such. You would think Nepal of all places might have a bit more appreciation regarding stress and psychotic breaks, given their tragic national history. Neither man should have been in the cockpit. And this guy certainly should never have been paired with an inexperienced female co-Pilot.
Why have two runways with numbers reversed that's bound to cause confusion in a emergence situation.
Because they refer to the heading of a runway in either direction.
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The investigators did a comprehensive tox screen, but didn’t check for trace medications? What medications for depressions can intoxicate a pilot? I know there are probably many medications a pilot can’t take, but I didn’t realize those types of meds can intoxicate a person. Maybe a psychotropic? It definitely sounds like he was under the influence of something. Very tragic. He had all those souls in his hands. So sad.
uhhhh how do you not sleep and then fly a plane with 70 people on board?
The captain lit a cigarette 03.02 😮
I'm way too paranoid to ever fly again!
Employment culture in Bangladesh is horrible. Worst in the world. The Management treats every employee as a slave, even though someone is highly qualified, leading to catastrophies like this.
Every sector is filled with unworthy people. I'm from Sylhet, Bangladesh and 13 Nepali medical students who were studying in Sylhet, all died in that crash.
This seems like a murder-suicide to me. I think something just snapped in his brain and he stopped caring about what what happened to his plane.
Saying "flying under the influence" of anti-depressants is just criminalizing the idea of anti-depressants in the minds of those who really need them.
It is the correct terminology. Many anti-depressants (e.g. benzodiazepines) have clear contraindications against operating machinery, including driving or flying. There has already occured at least one accident where the consumption of benzodiazepines by the captain was a clear contributing factor to his spatial disorientation and consequent crash (Crossair flight 498).
No it's not, there is nothing wrong with taking Medication. There is however a problem when you go against medial advice not to operate machinery.
@@brotakig1531 Nobody wrote it's wrong to take properly prescribed anti-depressants. However it can be wrong to do it if there are contraindications against operating machinery and your profession requires such tasks, which does make it "flying under the influence".
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*This is irresponsible* medical advice from someone who is pharmacologically illiterate. Benzodiazepines are anxiolytic and may be used to treat disorders that are selectively co-symptomatic with depression but as the entire class are dependence-forming CNS depressants, benzodiazepines are contraindicated per APA for the treatment of any chronic condition, _explicitly_ including clinical depression .
@@vaffangool9196 in case you misread, nowhere did I give out medical advice to anyone here. Only intention was to point out there are medications that have contraindications related to operating machinery.
Why didn't the co-pilot & other crew members remove the Captain when he began behaving so irrationally ?
The co-pilot was relatively new to flying and was still learning how to fly that type of airplane. So, investigators believe that she may have been scared to question the captain or to take control of the plane given that he was more experienced than she was
Fun fact:Abid sultan was an ex Mig 21 pilot🙂
Terrible captain the FO didn’t know what she sign up for.
"Theorized he was anxious about his future"? What the actual shit??? Anxiety about my future is what makes it hard to focus on a presentation at work or what to cook my family for dinner when I get home... This dude didn't fly over the cuckoo's nest, he fucking dive bombed into it while angrily sobbing over paranoid romantic delusions, taking 50 innocent people to their fucking graves.
Not all cultures are equal. Some are just not suited to the modern world.
The only way culture could have played a part here is that the FO might not have dared tell a Captain what to do. Not sure why you bring this up, this kind of thing by no means makes a culture "not suited to the modern world" which by the way is impossible to objectively measure.
It sounds like the captain was drugged. Intentionally or otherwise. That didn't sound like an emotional breakdown, but rather a psychotic one. A completely different personality in a completely different "universe".
I may never fly again!!
He committed suicide.
Airlines in the third world also have onerous work rules. Firing a person and telling him to finish his monthly schedule.. Is just asking for trouble. Forget airlines.. Most companies would give him a severance pay and cut off all his access to company property and communication. In many parts of the world, it's a glamorous job title but work rules and pay... Not so great.
some people should not be allowed to fly.