I literally just mic-ed up acoustic drums for the first time last night after years of using vst drum plugins. This process looks so much cleaner than recording to multiple tracks like I have been doing. Thanks!
I purchased reaper for the first time since protools seems to keep raising monthly prices more often, and dude your guides have helped my learning curve so much. YOU’RE THE MAN!
WOW, what the hell?!?!?! this is the MOST foreign thing I have ever seen for tracking drums!!! I think i will have to stick with my old school one track per mic stuff, BUT this is SOOOOOO cool!!!
So much good information here. Just packed full of gems. But especially, the way you're doing takes is so much easier than the way I'm doing takes. I need to go back and review my massively confusing way of doing them and fix it.
Huge thanks for this, Kenny. Just set up my kit mics and got up and running v quickly thanks to this. For any noobs like me: One tip I would add for people to look out for is you might need to extend your UI a bit in various places in order to have certain buttons/controls appear as sometimes they get hidden easily, even if they're definitely not hidden in the Theme Adjuster. Another one is to keep an eye on your Preferences > Device settings, as in here it might by default have only 2 inputs from first to last, but you will likely need to increase it to accommodate the max your audio device has e.g. 8/12/16 inputs. Cheers!
Well done! I'm using Reaper for more than 10 yrs (starting with Reaper 3) and I think I have a real good workflow for doing my stuff. But I love your videos because in every videos there are small things I learn to improve even more and make things faster and easier! This "technique" I worked out some month ago esp. for bass and guitar tracks. E.g. my standard bass "frontend" is my SansAmp VT Bass with "uneffected/DI" and "effected" tracks. Or for acoustic guitars I record the pickup with one or two mics - or electric with additional DI ... etc. And this "technique" makes it _ways easier_ in editing / comping. Else you need to be very cautious not to miss a track when doing cuts and such stuff. And they are always "synchron" - you can not screw things when moving. So this video really encourages me for doing this for the whole drum-tracks. But sometimes I have drum recordings, where I need to edit / correct little things - esp. kick drum. So maybe I will let the kick mics on a separate track but combine the rest (due to spill-over editing single tracks makes not a big option either). But having only two "tracks" will make it ways easier than the 10 tracks I have by now. So thanks very, very much! Great video - as all your videos! So liked, keep going and best regards, Stefan
Another fantastic video, Kenny! I've learned so much from your videos over the years, and this method aligns nicely with our band recording this week! Will definitely give this a try!!
Thanks for putting this out there! At 1:51 you state to change your input to Input: 8 Channel > Input 1...Input 8 [8 Chan]. In my system, I see Input: 8 Channel as an option, but there's no sub option to select. I am using a Roland TD-25k kit/brain with Reaper. Today, I can set the input to Input: MIDI > TD-25 > All Channels and see/hear/record drums using my kit and the Toontrack Superior Drummer 3 plugin. I am clearly missing a configuration here. Any guidance would be wildly helpful. Thank you.
Excellent video. My band is preparing for recording the 2nd album and we'll start soon after configuring all the stuff. So this fits like the butt on the bucket for me. Thank you!
That was great Kenny thanks.. Its been a bit of a struggle here and there, but I’m using Reaper more and more for projects. Still not completely sold on how Reaper handles takes, but I’ll keep at it
wow.. thats so interesting. I'm going to give it a try tomorrow..i have been doing it the long , slow and painfull method recording to seperate tracks. I did learn something, and I will use it :)
Hi! Can i export the tracks as separate stems with this method, i'm changing from fl studio and it has all kinds of problems with exporting stems so it would be nice to know before i start recording 😁
I have tracked via this method as well as one input per track. Certainly this method works better for comping takes, or at least it's less likely to cause issues with having one drum have the wrong take selected. Where it trips me up is when I want to clean up the waveforms. I generally delete out 80% of the waveform on tom tracks just to clean things up. I know that gating generally removes the need to do this, or perhaps just enveloping the mapped playback tracks would do it, but I still find it cramps my instincts. On the other hand, one drum per track and you really have to make sure you're selecting all the items when you move things around/cut. Maybe I'm missing something but why when you group tracks, you can't set it to force waveform edits to cascade across all items?
In general, if you want to move a kick or snare hit, all the tracks should be movced together. But you could also use "Item: Explode multichannel audio or MIDI to new one-channel items" and put all the one channel items on their separate tracks and work that way from then on.
Also is there a way to assign different inputs ? for exemple i have 1 to 6 , 9 and 13 input tracks , how do i select those ??? ( let s say i prefer the preamps 9 and 13 than 7 and 8 or lets pretend they dont work .
I never thought to setup recording drums in Reaper that way. I always do track per mic (12 in my drum sessions). And route them to various busses (toms , OH , Rooms , etc). Then a master drum buss. I like all the control and options I have that way. But this seems really cool. I will try something similar to what you showed here. Cool way of recording drums you have.
Oh dang. How long have you been using this method? I have heard horror stories about trying to comp and edit multi tracked drums. It's something I've never had to do but I'm sure you have.
Interesting approach. I’ve always grouped the tracks after recording and before editing. So if you record this way and want/ need to export the tracks as mono and stereo after recording and editing to send to a mix engineer what would be the most efficient way to do so?
I think you should extract all channels individual with their own sounds to a folder in a usb stick and send them to engineer for master or process.Maybe you want a usb stick with enough gb's.
Amazing video, once again. Doing it this way should also make the drum editing process a lot easier since all the tracks are already kind of glued together. I'm currently thinking about if it makes sense to use the same logic with guitar DI tracks. So for example if you want to have the rhythm guitars going through more than one "rig" in parallel. That way, you'd only have one track with the DI signal in the track view and sending that one to different monitoring tracks which you only need in the mixer. You would be 100% sure that the input signal will be the same if you comp takes or do some other editing to them.
Excellent video Kenny. Great to see you back, I got worried when I didn't see any new lessons for the last three weeks. Can this be done using an import from something like MTDK drumkit or similar? Normal service has been resumed!!
Thanks Kenny. The current version doesn't have the "route" button in the track section now. Can I just drag from the "route" button" on each mixer channel to the "drum" track and achieve the same? It looks like it at the moment. Thanks again!
I would love some kind of routing matrix for input channels, in case inputs are not sequential. That said, I never had a problem with multitrack grouping/editing in Reaper.
Very frustrated trying to set up drums as there aren't any good videos anywhere. Sadly I'm not further on with this video, some of the steps just simply don't work for me early in this video. At the very start trying to select "input: 8 channel" I can't select it
Amazing as usual! Keep them coming, Kenny! Didn't you do a video using EzDrummer2 recording onto separate tracks as audio instead of midi? I am trying to find that one.
Dear Kenny, I have a question: When I do repetitive punch-ins, the length of them is never the same, and sometimes I record the right take and I see on it all those annoying splits that show me the length of the previous takes. How can I not see those "splits"? I am usually forced dragging the good take from the first split till it becomes visually smooth, but I hope you can help me with this. Thanks!!!!!!
The easiest thing to do would be to just record the same length every time by doing a time selection and selecting "Time selection auto-punch" as your record mode. The other option is to go to the Options drop-down menu and select New recording that overlaps existing media items>Creates new media items in fixed lanes. All of your takes will be shown in their own lanes and not get split when recording new ones.
I know you said that you used to use Logic (and still do sometimes). How do you compare this multitrack recording/comping workflow to Logic's? Where all you have to do is group the tracks so that comping one track comps them all identically. It seems a lot more intuitive than anything I've tried so far with REAPER. That said, your idea of recording multiple inputs to a single item, while keeping the sources separated within that item and routed to other tracks for mixing, is very clever and eliminates the need for item grouping for multitrack comping. However, I still find Logic's workflow to be superior for a few reasons. The comping system allows you to swipe over entire takes without losing them, which means you can keep the amount of visible split points to a minimum without eliminating any takes. Also, actually recording each input to its own track means you can nudge the individual items left or right to correct timing. I also prefer to do my initial gain staging by adjusting the item volumes, which I wouldn't be able to do if all my tracks are technically a single item. For most sessions, I prefer to record and comp in Logic and then mix in REAPER.
Now I see what you're asking. Jumped in to Reaper and tried this, ugh. I can see where this would be lots of extra work to "Explode Multichannel Audio" to just fix an individual track and not all 8 at once. Reaper does save the wave file as a single file (with 8 channels) and not 8 separate files. I'm just trying Logic too for the last month (New Mac) so I'll get on this comparison today. Still Love Reaper though and will use this technique in the future! Just need to make sure my drums are tight...at least the tape is free. Thanks Joey and Kenny.
@@HandWiredAmps I understand that. Those tracks are recorded to a single item though, so you can't move them independently of each other without rendering each channel to its own track, which means you'd need to use the item grouping system in REAPER, which isn't the best for multitrack comping.
@@HandWiredAmps yeah, for simple in-phase comping of a single multitrack source, @REAPER Mania's technique is great. But if you want to do individual lane-based automation (and be able to see the waveform), or comping of more complex material, where you still want the advantages of grouping, but also want to be able to nudge stuff around, it quickly gets complicated, definitely not possible using this technique. Logic's solution here is really elegant. I find REAPER's take stuff is mostly good, but it's a little error-prone -- f.e. if you're viewing all takes at once, it's easy to accidentally switch takes when selecting items -- and just not all that smooth. I hope that the new multi-lane stuff that's in development can be used to improve the workflow.
Hi Kenny I love the channel! I am using Ez Drummer 2 and cannot create individual stems of the original track? I have all the tracks done and it is picking up the audio of each individual piece of the ezdrummer kit. I just can't make individual stems for them so I can mix it like a real drum kit Can you please help?
Well done on all these videos Kenny! I just did this last night and it does work very well compared to tracking to 10 different channels on the mixer...particularly when doing multiple takes as you mentioned. Here is my question/problem. When I am tracking to individual channels, I have the ability to flip phase on my "snare bottom" track...OR...if I forget to do that pre-record, I can at least move the wav file after the fact to line up my snare phase. How can I do this if recording in this "comp channel" type of format?
So you can’t phase align with this method unless you explode everything. Do you not need to bother doing it in the first place? Situational? Great vid over all blowing my mind per usual.
THanks , one nice video again ! How do You set up the "automatic crossfade" at the split point ? when i split i have fade in and out at the beginning and end of the 2 new items splitted .
I wondered how the actual files would be generated: Will it be separated into 4 stereo wavs? I tried and found wavs can have more than 2 channels, didn't know that.
@@timonbutcherman That's really good to know. Thanks Timon! Is it also possible to return it to the recorded drum multi-track as well, if one wanted to do so?
@@timonbutcherman I wonder if you could also record the output of the multichannel file to 8 seperate tracks for example, using the opposite routing and recording in real time. There is a recording option to "record output to tracks".The script you mentioned is probably easier, but it's always good to know a 'stock' way
Great video, love this method. Wish there was a way to show only the kick and snare for example in the multichannel file, because those tiny waveforms make pocketing stuff to the drums harder. Any workarounds for this?
Hello Kenny! Awesome video! What if i would want to ajust for example the fade in on one Snare hit? Could if still be done without afecting the hole take?
Thanks for this Kenny. As usual, you're an inspiration on all things Reaper and this has opened my eyes to a new method of drum recording. I'm going to try this method to record some drums this weekend. A few questions though - 1) I have three toms miced up. How would you suggest grouping them for this approach? 2) Is it possible to render/export the individual drum tracks after comping and if so, how do I go about doing this?
I would give each tom it's own destination track. You can export on a track by track basis. Just choose the destination track I'm using for monitoring each drum.
I usually have to time align my drum tracks and this would be easier for that unless perhaps you use dynamic splitting of snare and bass drum tracks to automate. Wouldn’t that require splitting the snare and kick items out, at least temporarily?
Great video Kenny with nice explanation!! Would you plan a video for if we have one PC for Recording only connected to our User Interface with mics e.t.c and one other to process the mixing at some other place or town to how we can transfer the recording template between these two Workstations without have GB of Data and a bit difficulty to transfered them??? Reaper has some option like " Save it as Project"?
Hi Kenny, thank you for sharing this Tutorial. It seems to be a great Option to Record Drums with Reaper in a clean an easy Way. I´am from Germany, so my English is not the best. Sorry for that... :) I have a Question, because one Thing doesnt work in my Reaper. At Minute 4.30 you open up the Mixer to cennect the DRUM-Track to the Monitor-Tracks. In my Reaper-Setup this does not work. If I open up the Mixer, the Routing-Option escapes from my DRUMS-Track showing in the MCP. Can you help me with that? My Reaper-Version is6.41. That would be great! Thanks, Heiko
Noob question, I have been getting into Reaper for a little while now and have started writing my own music (direct guitars in, direct bass in, drum plugin - MT power drums). If I perform render as a test, I've noticed clipping during the rendering process occurring if I add more tracks (no clipping on input or on the mixer though) and have to drop the volume per track right across the mixer. is this normal? BTW, I am using Windows 10 64bit with an i-7 processor and 32gb ram.
Just spent the last 3 weeks saying 'When's the next vid? When's the next vid?' Thanks Kenny - you're a wizard!
Stay tuned. Should have 8 over the next few days.
I literally just mic-ed up acoustic drums for the first time last night after years of using vst drum plugins. This process looks so much cleaner than recording to multiple tracks like I have been doing. Thanks!
I purchased reaper for the first time since protools seems to keep raising monthly prices more often, and dude your guides have helped my learning curve so much. YOU’RE THE MAN!
Almighty Reaper teacher.
Kenny.
this is SO much easier than traditional drum editing where you're dealing with all kinds of tracks, what a smart way to set stuff up. thanks kenny
REAPER Mania, the channel that just keeps giving. Thank you Kenny
Very clever (& useful) multitrack record setup !
One more proof of Reaper's flexibility & versatility !
You've blown my mind Kenny. Using Reaper in this way for monitoring is amazing. I've never thought of it that way. Thank you
WOW, what the hell?!?!?! this is the MOST foreign thing I have ever seen for tracking drums!!! I think i will have to stick with my old school one track per mic stuff, BUT this is SOOOOOO cool!!!
So much good information here. Just packed full of gems. But especially, the way you're doing takes is so much easier than the way I'm doing takes. I need to go back and review my massively confusing way of doing them and fix it.
This saves time in every recording session. Thank`s Keny
Dang! Thank you to the might Kenny!
Thanks Kenny....Legend!!!
Excellent tutorial Kenny! Thank you once again!
Huge thanks for this, Kenny. Just set up my kit mics and got up and running v quickly thanks to this.
For any noobs like me:
One tip I would add for people to look out for is you might need to extend your UI a bit in various places in order to have certain buttons/controls appear as sometimes they get hidden easily, even if they're definitely not hidden in the Theme Adjuster.
Another one is to keep an eye on your Preferences > Device settings, as in here it might by default have only 2 inputs from first to last, but you will likely need to increase it to accommodate the max your audio device has e.g. 8/12/16 inputs. Cheers!
Man, that's super cool. Never tried multitracking without having everything in the trackcontrol/mixer.
Well done! I'm using Reaper for more than 10 yrs (starting with Reaper 3) and I think I have a real good workflow for doing my stuff. But I love your videos because in every videos there are small things I learn to improve even more and make things faster and easier!
This "technique" I worked out some month ago esp. for bass and guitar tracks. E.g. my standard bass "frontend" is my SansAmp VT Bass with "uneffected/DI" and "effected" tracks. Or for acoustic guitars I record the pickup with one or two mics - or electric with additional DI ... etc. And this "technique" makes it _ways easier_ in editing / comping. Else you need to be very cautious not to miss a track when doing cuts and such stuff. And they are always "synchron" - you can not screw things when moving.
So this video really encourages me for doing this for the whole drum-tracks. But sometimes I have drum recordings, where I need to edit / correct little things - esp. kick drum. So maybe I will let the kick mics on a separate track but combine the rest (due to spill-over editing single tracks makes not a big option either). But having only two "tracks" will make it ways easier than the 10 tracks I have by now.
So thanks very, very much! Great video - as all your videos! So liked, keep going and best regards, Stefan
Thanks Kenny. 🙂
Another fantastic video, Kenny! I've learned so much from your videos over the years, and this method aligns nicely with our band recording this week! Will definitely give this a try!!
The K-man delivers yet AGAIN 😊
Thanks for putting this out there! At 1:51 you state to change your input to Input: 8 Channel > Input 1...Input 8 [8 Chan]. In my system, I see Input: 8 Channel as an option, but there's no sub option to select. I am using a Roland TD-25k kit/brain with Reaper. Today, I can set the input to Input: MIDI > TD-25 > All Channels and see/hear/record drums using my kit and the Toontrack Superior Drummer 3 plugin. I am clearly missing a configuration here. Any guidance would be wildly helpful. Thank you.
same with me, I using a tr8s and I can't find a way to select any sub option...
I always learn something new from each of your videos, every time! Thanks!
Excellent video. My band is preparing for recording the 2nd album and we'll start soon after configuring all the stuff. So this fits like the butt on the bucket for me. Thank you!
Brilliant.
Very happy to know how to do all of that. Thank you!
I learned something, I can use it, thank you, see you next time.
That was great Kenny thanks.. Its been a bit of a struggle here and there, but I’m using Reaper more and more for projects. Still not completely sold on how Reaper handles takes, but I’ll keep at it
Life saver been trying to get my drums separated to record and eq them individually thanks for your help
Reaper has a reputation for complexification, but know your workflow and then Template to Be Great!
Donnie Wahlberg would be proud of your use of word switchification!
@@pvalenti I think Donnie uses smaller words and Garageband.
thanks Kenny .... as always .... TOP🎼👍🏽
This is REALLY helpful. Complete noob to this and learning as I record my ekit via midi.
This is sooo helpful, thank you so much!
Thanks!!! This was helpful!!!
wow.. thats so interesting. I'm going to give it a try tomorrow..i have been doing it the long , slow and painfull method recording to seperate tracks. I did learn something, and I will use it :)
After you're done recording and comping, can you make stems of each item within that one multichannel track?
Hi! Can i export the tracks as separate stems with this method, i'm changing from fl studio and it has all kinds of problems with exporting stems so it would be nice to know before i start recording 😁
This is fantastic! Thanks, Kenny.
Once again AMAZING both what Reaper can do and how you show it in use. I learned about 6 things in this totally unrelated to drum tracking...
Wow! That is such an incredible work flow. Thanks for sharing! Game changer!
I have tracked via this method as well as one input per track. Certainly this method works better for comping takes, or at least it's less likely to cause issues with having one drum have the wrong take selected. Where it trips me up is when I want to clean up the waveforms. I generally delete out 80% of the waveform on tom tracks just to clean things up. I know that gating generally removes the need to do this, or perhaps just enveloping the mapped playback tracks would do it, but I still find it cramps my instincts. On the other hand, one drum per track and you really have to make sure you're selecting all the items when you move things around/cut. Maybe I'm missing something but why when you group tracks, you can't set it to force waveform edits to cascade across all items?
After comping, simply explode the file into separate audio tracks...
as usual you are the best and the Reaper 💪
This is super helpful, thank you!
I like the track 😎
Isn't this harder to edit in post then? If you just want to move a kick or snare hit but leave the rest as it is?
I asked about this in my comment as well. This is a very clever method, but seems to overlook some types of edits you may want to make.
In general, if you want to move a kick or snare hit, all the tracks should be movced together. But you could also use "Item: Explode multichannel audio or MIDI to new one-channel items" and put all the one channel items on their separate tracks and work that way from then on.
Also is there a way to assign different inputs ? for exemple i have 1 to 6 , 9 and 13 input tracks , how do i select those ??? ( let s say i prefer the preamps 9 and 13 than 7 and 8 or lets pretend they dont work .
I never thought to setup recording drums in Reaper that way. I always do track per mic (12 in my drum sessions). And route them to various busses (toms , OH , Rooms , etc). Then a master drum buss. I like all the control and options I have that way. But this seems really cool. I will try something similar to what you showed here. Cool way of recording drums you have.
Agreed. I imagine you could group the 5 output channels into a drum buss for ease of adding effects and mixing. I'm going to try that!
Very helpful. Thanks bunches. I also really like the piece of music used to demo this. What is it from?
Brilliant!
Oh dang. How long have you been using this method? I have heard horror stories about trying to comp and edit multi tracked drums. It's something I've never had to do but I'm sure you have.
A lot easier this way.
Interesting approach. I’ve always grouped the tracks after recording and before editing. So if you record this way and want/ need to export the tracks as mono and stereo after recording and editing to send to a mix engineer what would be the most efficient way to do so?
Good question. I've posed a similar one!
I'd imagine just rendering the individual channels to the tracks they're routed to would do the trick.
You can also use the action "Explode multichannel audio or MIDI to new one-channel items"
I think you should extract all channels individual with their own sounds to a folder in a usb stick and send them to engineer for master or process.Maybe you want a usb stick with enough gb's.
Nice, thank's
Wow.... Thanks Kenny.....
Thanks, great video Kenny!
This is so good! Thanks!
Awesome video!
Now, if I needed to send the individual tracks to a producer, what would be the best way?
Render Stems or Tracks using the playback tracks instead of the recorded to one.
@@REAPERMania That was what I thought I’d do, but thought I’d make sure. Thanks!
Amazing video, once again. Doing it this way should also make the drum editing process a lot easier since all the tracks are already kind of glued together.
I'm currently thinking about if it makes sense to use the same logic with guitar DI tracks. So for example if you want to have the rhythm guitars going through more than one "rig" in parallel. That way, you'd only have one track with the DI signal in the track view and sending that one to different monitoring tracks which you only need in the mixer. You would be 100% sure that the input signal will be the same if you comp takes or do some other editing to them.
EXCELENTE, THANK FOR YOUR TIPS MASTER
Excellent video Kenny.
Great to see you back, I got worried when I didn't see any new lessons for the last three weeks.
Can this be done using an import from something like MTDK drumkit or similar?
Normal service has been resumed!!
Thanks Kenny. The current version doesn't have the "route" button in the track section now. Can I just drag from the "route" button" on each mixer channel to the "drum" track and achieve the same? It looks like it at the moment. Thanks again!
Thanks Kenny!
I would love some kind of routing matrix for input channels, in case inputs are not sequential. That said, I never had a problem with multitrack grouping/editing in Reaper.
You can adhust it in the remapping input section of the audio preferences tab.
@@REAPERMania Thanks! I worked around it by using Loopbacks in rme‘s TotalMix to have it set case by case.
Very frustrated trying to set up drums as there aren't any good videos anywhere. Sadly I'm not further on with this video, some of the steps just simply don't work for me early in this video. At the very start trying to select "input: 8 channel" I can't select it
Amazing as usual! Keep them coming, Kenny!
Didn't you do a video using EzDrummer2 recording onto separate tracks as audio instead of midi?
I am trying to find that one.
Dear Kenny, I have a question: When I do repetitive punch-ins, the length of them is never the same, and sometimes I record the right take and I see on it all those annoying splits that show me the length of the previous takes. How can I not see those "splits"? I am usually forced dragging the good take from the first split till it becomes visually smooth, but I hope you can help me with this.
Thanks!!!!!!
The easiest thing to do would be to just record the same length every time by doing a time selection and selecting "Time selection auto-punch" as your record mode. The other option is to go to the Options drop-down menu and select New recording that overlaps existing media items>Creates new media items in fixed lanes. All of your takes will be shown in their own lanes and not get split when recording new ones.
I know you said that you used to use Logic (and still do sometimes). How do you compare this multitrack recording/comping workflow to Logic's? Where all you have to do is group the tracks so that comping one track comps them all identically. It seems a lot more intuitive than anything I've tried so far with REAPER. That said, your idea of recording multiple inputs to a single item, while keeping the sources separated within that item and routed to other tracks for mixing, is very clever and eliminates the need for item grouping for multitrack comping. However, I still find Logic's workflow to be superior for a few reasons. The comping system allows you to swipe over entire takes without losing them, which means you can keep the amount of visible split points to a minimum without eliminating any takes. Also, actually recording each input to its own track means you can nudge the individual items left or right to correct timing. I also prefer to do my initial gain staging by adjusting the item volumes, which I wouldn't be able to do if all my tracks are technically a single item. For most sessions, I prefer to record and comp in Logic and then mix in REAPER.
This is my question, too. Thanks!
There are still 8 recorded tracks (channels), they are just routed in the Drum track.
Now I see what you're asking. Jumped in to Reaper and tried this, ugh. I can see where this would be lots of extra work to "Explode Multichannel Audio" to just fix an individual track and not all 8 at once. Reaper does save the wave file as a single file (with 8 channels) and not 8 separate files. I'm just trying Logic too for the last month (New Mac) so I'll get on this comparison today. Still Love Reaper though and will use this technique in the future! Just need to make sure my drums are tight...at least the tape is free.
Thanks Joey and Kenny.
@@HandWiredAmps I understand that. Those tracks are recorded to a single item though, so you can't move them independently of each other without rendering each channel to its own track, which means you'd need to use the item grouping system in REAPER, which isn't the best for multitrack comping.
@@HandWiredAmps yeah, for simple in-phase comping of a single multitrack source, @REAPER Mania's technique is great. But if you want to do individual lane-based automation (and be able to see the waveform), or comping of more complex material, where you still want the advantages of grouping, but also want to be able to nudge stuff around, it quickly gets complicated, definitely not possible using this technique. Logic's solution here is really elegant. I find REAPER's take stuff is mostly good, but it's a little error-prone -- f.e. if you're viewing all takes at once, it's easy to accidentally switch takes when selecting items -- and just not all that smooth. I hope that the new multi-lane stuff that's in development can be used to improve the workflow.
Is there a way to do this with an odd number track channel count, or does Reaper need it to be in pairs?
Very good video !! It’s very helpful 💪🏻but when I want to change to the 8 inputs it says not enough inputs available. What do I have to do ?
What Theme is Kenny using here? The mixer looks really neat.
I know this video is a year old, but when I open the mixer, the Routing icon disappears from the track. Any ideas?
you save my nights from editing drums❤
Thank you very helpful💛🎶🙏
Hi Kenny I love the channel!
I am using Ez Drummer 2 and cannot create individual stems of the original track?
I have all the tracks done and it is picking up the audio of each individual piece of the ezdrummer kit.
I just can't make individual stems for them so I can mix it like a real drum kit
Can you please help?
I’m at 1:05 and I’m already lost
My version of reaper doesn’t have a “routing”button on the armed to record track so I don’t know what to do
It's in the mixer panel now. That messed me up in the past.
Wow… Thanks mate 👍🏻
Christopher Walken impression at the end?
Dear Kenny, with this method is it still possible to do individual processing for each separate track?
Well done on all these videos Kenny! I just did this last night and it does work very well compared to tracking to 10 different channels on the mixer...particularly when doing multiple takes as you mentioned. Here is my question/problem. When I am tracking to individual channels, I have the ability to flip phase on my "snare bottom" track...OR...if I forget to do that pre-record, I can at least move the wav file after the fact to line up my snare phase. How can I do this if recording in this "comp channel" type of format?
I feel like as long as you flip polarity on the channel your snare bottom output track, then you're fine
What is the audio interface you are using for multi track recordings?
Thanks!
Hi Kenny ! What palette settings are you using? Some of the cool and others. Thank you.
So you can’t phase align with this method unless you explode everything. Do you not need to bother doing it in the first place? Situational? Great vid over all blowing my mind per usual.
I phase align with my mic positioning but you would have to exlode it to do it here. Yes.
Oh My Goodness! 😲
THanks , one nice video again ! How do You set up the "automatic crossfade" at the split point ? when i split i have fade in and out at the beginning and end of the 2 new items splitted .
That’s so good Kenny 😎👊
I wondered how the actual files would be generated: Will it be separated into 4 stereo wavs? I tried and found wavs can have more than 2 channels, didn't know that.
Wow this is awesome. And makes editing easier than grouping.
Question : can that one big track also applied to already recorded drum multi track?
Yes. You need to use script "create multichannel render from selected tracks with mono items" by Acendan. Then rout it as in the video.
@@timonbutcherman That's really good to know. Thanks Timon! Is it also possible to return it to the recorded drum multi-track as well, if one wanted to do so?
@@timonbutcherman I wonder if you could also record the output of the multichannel file to 8 seperate tracks for example, using the opposite routing and recording in real time. There is a recording option to "record output to tracks".The script you mentioned is probably easier, but it's always good to know a 'stock' way
@@TimWilson666 Yes of course :)
@@TimWilson666 Just use "explode multichannel item" script
Wow, thanks!
Does this work with midi drums? I'll have to try.
Great video, love this method. Wish there was a way to show only the kick and snare for example in the multichannel file, because those tiny waveforms make pocketing stuff to the drums harder. Any workarounds for this?
Hello Kenny! Awesome video!
What if i would want to ajust for example the fade in on one Snare hit? Could if still be done without afecting the hole take?
Thanks for this Kenny. As usual, you're an inspiration on all things Reaper and this has opened my eyes to a new method of drum recording. I'm going to try this method to record some drums this weekend. A few questions though - 1) I have three toms miced up. How would you suggest grouping them for this approach? 2) Is it possible to render/export the individual drum tracks after comping and if so, how do I go about doing this?
I think, something about rendering stems is what you are looking for.
I would give each tom it's own destination track. You can export on a track by track basis. Just choose the destination track I'm using for monitoring each drum.
@@REAPERMania Thanks Kenny
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oooh shit, new batch of videos is done?
I usually have to time align my drum tracks and this would be easier for that unless perhaps you use dynamic splitting of snare and bass drum tracks to automate. Wouldn’t that require splitting the snare and kick items out, at least temporarily?
yes
Thanks for the great work Kenny
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I need help it's not letting me choose the 8 channel input
Great video Kenny with nice explanation!! Would you plan a video for if we have one PC for Recording only connected to our User Interface with mics e.t.c and one other to process the mixing at some other place or town to how we can transfer the recording template between these two Workstations without have GB of Data and a bit difficulty to transfered them??? Reaper has some option like " Save it as Project"?
Just save a Project Template without the Audio.
@@REAPERMania It is that possible? With mutation all channels?And How can i process the sound without having the audio signal??
Hi Kenny, thank you for sharing this Tutorial. It seems to be a great Option to Record Drums with Reaper in a clean an easy Way. I´am from Germany, so my English is not the best. Sorry for that... :) I have a Question, because one Thing doesnt work in my Reaper. At Minute 4.30 you open up the Mixer to cennect the DRUM-Track to the Monitor-Tracks. In my Reaper-Setup this does not work. If I open up the Mixer, the Routing-Option escapes from my DRUMS-Track showing in the MCP. Can you help me with that? My Reaper-Version is6.41. That would be great! Thanks, Heiko
Sweet tutorial.
The ice has already broken.
is that track released? sounded awesome
Noob question, I have been getting into Reaper for a little while now and have started writing my own music (direct guitars in, direct bass in, drum plugin - MT power drums).
If I perform render as a test, I've noticed clipping during the rendering process occurring if I add more tracks (no clipping on input or on the mixer though) and have to drop the volume per track right across the mixer. is this normal? BTW, I am using Windows 10 64bit with an i-7 processor and 32gb ram.