"The Bugs appear to have defeated our entire battleplan." "You seem surprised, Blackadder." "Yes, Sky Marshal. I wasn't aware the Mobile Infantry *had* any battleplans."
No one else is gonna point out just how much of a badass Rico is?! The dude just watched his friend get killed, kept on firing, saw the cameraman get killed, stood his ground. Even wounded he refused to tap out and he took down two more with him. Absolute boss!
Hello from 2023 I saw this movie on opening day, in the theatres with about 4 of my friends. The sound system was so loud, that music, fucking loved every second of that movie even know its cheesy as fuck.
Your basic Arachnid warrior isn't too smart, but you can blow off a limb, and it's still 86 percent combat effective. Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem, and put it down for good.
Not only that in the books taking out the nerve stem simply sends them catatonic (where they eventually smash themselves to pieces), they actually have guns and every time one dies it signals the hive to grow another.
- _"We have an overpopulation problem."_ - _"Sir, the research department has discovered an hellish planet full of elephant sized monstrous insects."_ - * rubs hands * _"Excellent."_
@@qifangjenniferfu8767 Why do you think they were chosen for the Mobile Infantry? MI does the dying because that's all the Federation thinks they're good for.
This movie is unironically one of my favorite guilty pleasures. I love the bulky designs, the propaganda-esque filmography, everything. But most of all I love the Marines designs and equipment.
"Remember your Training and you will make it back alive" Love that line. Makes me smile every time, cause they clearly trained to kill Humans, not Bugs. And it shows...
"You smash the entire area. You kill anything that has more than two legs! You get me!" What an outstanding pre mission briefing. Full of tactics and strategy.
The landing is so epic with all the troops pouring out of the dropships and the flares being launched and the music just swelling up. Truely an epic D-Day landing which will be matched by it's epic failure in about 5 minutes.
They have air support but cannot go to the planet thanks to the plasma fire, tanks cannot been deployed via orbital dropship because the crew would be cooked alived inside it and the enemy utilize underground tunnel that could trap a tank easy making it useless, flamers have no use against the bugs because their skim that is too thick, grenades and heavy weapons is a fair point, wait they have it but never used because they are praticaly recruits.
696Ghost696 No competent field officers, useful body armor, more sights than one per platoon, literally any infantry weapons other than assault rifles, no marksmanship or tactics of any sort. On a surface looks the attack was monumentally incompetent, on a small unit level it gets worse somehow.
Exactly. Why having all of that when you have portable nuke launchers that produce zero fallout :) And movie Morita rifles actually shoot pretty powerful ammo as well but the problem is that Arachnids are for the most part armored as a tank :/
What was always morbidly funny to me is how the most gung ho of them, Shigumi, was yelling happily on the way, and running forward shooting while yelling, "You want some?! Here's some!" And he was the second one to get killed without having killed even one. And he gets mutilated almost more than any of the others who got killed.
A) Big fancy ships parked so close to each other i can hear the other person on the other ship sneeze? Check. B) Blame bugs for being smart and able to hit ships. Check C) Throw away fighter and bomber support for infantry advance. Check D) Equip soldiers with plastic armour, and guns that don't do jack? Check E) Send waves upon waves of soldiers, check. You are not zap Brannigan this will not work. You can't out rush bugs. F) Paper thin Morale, check. G) Awesome battle nonetheless? Check.
@@welkingunther5417 Well in this situation nothing would help them anyway cause it was an ambush and the whole bug army was waiting for them. Tanks or whatever would get swarmed quickly plus they would have got a hard time moving in this terrain. Best tactics are shown in the middle of the movie - Airstrike, then infantry with nukes to clear the rest. Also Hoppers giving air support a hard time since they kamikaze into the planes as stated in the ST video game.
Their commanding officer and one of their close friends died right away in brutal fashion.... the girl who said "let's get out of here." Was there so she could get a license to have children. Of course she isn't going to be a warrior lmfao. She wants to be a mom and raise children. Not fight some giant bugs who just tore her friend apart.
Not only that. The guns they are using were not meant to be used on the bugs. They needed high powered explosive weapons. It Takes about a whole magazine if not a few magazines to take only one bug down.
We are going in with the first wave. Means more bugs for us to kill... You smash the entire area. You kill anything that has more than two legs. You get me! WE GET YOU SIR!
Essentially starship Troopers laid the groundwork for all sorts of science fiction combat related works and even real-life programs. Making a purist, high quality, moocho spare no expense mini-series would most certainly be the most fitting toast to sci-fi developments like the Halo Series, The alien and Predator series and perhaps even Avatar (though some marauder suit soldiers would easily kill one of those robot walkers lol)
Make all the comparisons to the Imperial Guard/Astra Militarum all you like but at least they would have Tanks and Artillery supporting them and most of their enemies could shoot back.
Three companies of Blood Angels, a company of the Emperors children took heavy casualties fighting the Megarachnids on Murder. It took 10 companies of Luna Wolves and Horus himself with the help of the Imperial Army elements and Titans from Legio Mortis to have a fighting chance against them. Do not underestimate the bugs.
Yeah, except the Tyranids would be doing the same thing - along with several weeks of infinite bombardments, poisoning the atmosphere, terraforming the earth so everything wants to kill them, infecting their minds so all their leaders make worse decisions... then there are the genestealer cults and the genestealers themselves who can rip apart space marine armor like butter.
Their enemies also have a limit to their numbers. The number of bugs are unending and their numbers make them hard to defeat. Also tanks would easily be trapped and destroyed through clever use of sinkholes sucking tanks in and these bugs can cut through metal like paper so a tank would be easily destroyed by a decent swarm of bugs. In the novel troopers do have exo skeleton armor and heavy armor but because of the low budget the movie had to settle for conventional helmets and light armor
"Remember your training and you will make it back alive!" "Sir, does that include the part where we were told that our odds of survival are 1000 to 1?" "...You're over thinking it!" Also, was anyone else bothered by the fact that one guy using the shotgun attachment was more effective than a firing line of multiple troopers?
I think that she was brought to a Queen since they're in their Home Planet. Still what scares me is that she earlier talked that she wanted to have Children and Bugs would be Finding ways to Infiltrate.
*boltpistol sounds in the rear. You look up. Seeing a greatcapped large man wielding a roaring chainsword walking past the now headless corpse of your squadmate who fled. A boltshell tinking off your helmet* "Pray for him, for his faith was weak" "Rejoice! For my faith is endless! Forward!"
“We’re going in with first wave, means more bugs for us to kill....” Commissar in the 41st Millenium addressing Elysian Drop Troopers who are about to assault a Tyranid held planet.
The navy component commander would deserve court-martial on several counts, most egregious is not having any GODDAMN space between the ships and not glassing the dropzone first before sending MI in.
This was so epic to watch when i was a kid, best of all i watched this after i was obbsesed with Starcraft. So i kinda thought this was a Starcraft movie first when i was a kid.
I'm reading the book as I really liked the movie. Very surprised at how different everything is from the movie. For instance, mobile infantry are actually specialist trained to fight in a type of mechanized armor that weighs 2 tons, they are also fired out the carrier from space like bullets. The overt militarism in the movie is also not apparent in the book. Also Johnnie and Carmen are merely friends.
I think it's the fact that we get to see the fear in the eyes, the amazement, the horror and the thrill of each and every soldier that fights and dies. True, the movie takes it's liberties to change things, but I thought the Marines in ST movie are amazing to visually see what these people are feeling, thinking, compared to a suit that covers their faces too, right? If The Animated "Chronicles" or "Traitor of Mars" goes to show. It is more human than machine, ironically. I loved this movie, and I am looking to read the books if I get my hands on them.
@@rockyrock95g90 check with your local library, maybe they can get a copy through interlibrary loan or something. I did today and they expect I can pick it up Thursday (not bad as I'm in a very rural area).
Somehow, back when I was in highschool, this movie made me want to join up and shoot aliens, even though I'd be the guy in the blown up spaceship that never even got to touch ground.
Fun fact: The bug Shijumi shoots at 5:41 is the same one who takes his leg. Right after he shoots it and turns to the other you see the bug go "U WOT M8" and come over the ridge to him. And that's why it is always important to confirm your kills, kids.
I would of begun with a Orbital Bombardment to suppress the Plasma Bugs and to hopefully get an a no-go area for the bugs. Air support would then follow to drop guided nuclear missiles into anything that looked like a cave. Then the Infantry would drop with armour support and try and create a beachhead.
I agree, but for all intents and porpuses this operation was based on bad intelligence reports that sugested an easy victory due to the lack of organization between the bug population. The Federation overestimated the enemy and paid with heavy casualties. However since nobody ever really knew if the bugs launched the meteor that destroyed Buenos Aires, it could mean that the Federation false flagged that catastrophe, the massive failure of the assault on the bug planet could also be planned in advance since it would boost the hate of the civilian population and their seek for revenge. However even if the Federation nuked the planet back to it's early formation stage, the bugs would still survive in insane high numbers. For instance in the Second World War the US Navy carpet bombed entire islands occupied by the Japanese just to have their troops being blasted by almost all of the enemy soldiers that just waited inside their tunnels in the mountains until the bombing stopped.
Cynical people argue US Intelligence knew about Pearl Harbour and let it happen to have an official reason to enter the war with a united population. This here could be along the same line. The movie never gives a clear answer, this is what makes it so brilliant and, ironically, so intelligent.
mass marine marauder mdvac is still the most played tactic by the best terrans in world... because they are goddamn easy to replace, micro, and mobile. just like the troopers here hehe.
Love This Drop !!! I Was In 1983 In The U.S. Army Infantry From Ft Benning Ga At Alpha - 6 - 1Basic Training Company !!! Seeing This Mobile Infantry Going Though This Drop Makes Me Wish Back Then In Our Training We Had All The Toys Of War This Movie Shows !!! We'd Kick All Sorts Of Troubles With The Best Greatest Of Ease !!! Remember- Remember Your Training & You'll Always Get Back Home !!! I Do !!! You Better Be Quick Or You'll Be Dead !!! Only The Quick Go Home Alive , The Dead Go Home In Bodybags !!! That's The Real Reality Of War !!! No Dressing It Up !!! That's The Truth !!! 👍😃👍
Looked like the bridge could have merely been clipped by a blast which damaged a different part of the ship. As a result she most likely had burns on her face. Medically she could have had those cured as fast as the recruit with the broken arm
2:21 'This isn't random or light'. Oh, wait, did someone ASSUME that the bugs have no intelligence, or tactical co-ordination... because they're bugs? Yes, someone did make a mistake..... never underestimate your opponent. Never assume that they know less than you, because they seem inferior.
"Follow me troops! Abandon the high ground in favour of a shallow basin where the bugs can get to us with minimal effort! Spread out so we are easy to pick off!"
"Remember your training and you will make it back alive!" "Sir, does that include the part where we were told that our odds of survival are 1000 to 1?" "...You're over thinking it!"
@KILLRAIN42 Remember, MI training and battle doctrine had all been about fighting other humans, likely in brushfire wars and counter insurgancy operations against reletively small forces of rebels. This is a battle for which they were totally untrained and unequipped. The 5.56 caliber rounds that their Morrita rifles fire are likely devestating against soft, squishy humans, but to a bug, its like a bee-sting.
Just that one girl who fell, not knowing why it dragged her away instead of rip her apart and knowing that the brain bug sucks out brains is pretty horrifying.
@@CliffuckingBooth lol you are underestimating the guards, you think the lasgun is their main weapon? oh no, its the standard issue pair of adamatium balls
“We are going in with first wave, means more bugs for us to kill, you smash the entire area you kill anything that has more then two legs you get me?!”
All that technology, capable of spaceflight. So many ways to deal with the bugs. Orbital bombardment, Air superiority, mechanized armor, yet they deal with the bugs....with en masse boots-on-the-ground soldiers.
1st I read the book, then I bought and played the board game by Avalon Hill, then I listened to the hit single by Sarah Brightman. Finally the movie got done and I loved it.
Mobile Infantry was shooting a Human size Dummy in their training field, theres no plot hole in this scene its clearly seen that they have poor intelligence and logistics.
Just a huge army of dumb berserkers, and even the real berserkers were way deadlier than the mobile infantry! At least the real ones killed a good number of enemies in battle.
That or it's a propaganda film and these men were actually being trained to fight humans before the bug thing happened and they're using "old" footage from the training camps! Really this movie could be speculated all sorts of ways. it's an enigma to me.
Reading through the comments it seems there are a lot of people questioning why they deployed without efficient air support, why the fleets were spaced so close together, the lack of efficient ground based tactics and the questionable training of the troops with a lot of them hip firing or offering sporadic fire before they retreat in a full disorganised rout, and it seems a lot of this is being blamed on poor film making and continuity, alternatively, it's Hubris. The Mobile Infantryman themselves believe themselves to be the best, not only have they been trained to fight other humans depicted in the training arc, they're seen training to fight against competing squads and firing at human targets, not to mention those bugs don't have hands to use in a nukefight, or nukes for that matter, a lot has been learned that simply is of no use, they're shown to be self superior and over confident before even deploying on their first action despite their high morale and the ironic call to "remember their training", they severely under estimate the bugs, this is slowly rectified throughout the film as they become more cautious and disciplined being seen to actually focus fire and take up strategic positions such as high ground, open terrain and structurally defended position with heavy weapon emplacements to use their firepower best to their advantage alongside air-support as they become more experienced fighting the bugs. It's heavily hinted that their doctrine was to overrun and overwhelm human opposition conventionally with mass numbers and shock tactics when deploying [The dropships are literally designed to get as many men on the ground as fast as possible with little concern for utility, manoeuvrability or survive-ability probably after the fleet nuked the surface.] The Federation ships were clustered together around the carrier ships to provide a protective screen and to protect the drop ships, due to the military intelligence they received once again underestimating the bugs believing their orbital defensive capabilities to be random and light, this is of course false, there is great debate within the Federation whether or not these creatures even have the capacity to think let alone plan an ambush or make strategic decision making, but of course, they can as later we find out the existence of the Brainbug.
Thats right! The Maurauder suits. Plus the book was really more about them going through training and learning how to become officers and such rather than the fighting. It was actually a pretty intelligent book. If they ever decide to remake it EXACTLY like the book they should make it a mini series or something.
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"The Bugs appear to have defeated our entire battleplan."
"You seem surprised, Blackadder."
"Yes, Sky Marshal. I wasn't aware the Mobile Infantry *had* any battleplans."
"What?! You're saying that human wave tactics AREN'T a valid maneuver?!"
"This is a model of the ground we have captured in the first assault on Klendathu."
"Splendid! and what scale is it?"
"Uh, 1:1 sir..."
No one else is gonna point out just how much of a badass Rico is?! The dude just watched his friend get killed, kept on firing, saw the cameraman get killed, stood his ground. Even wounded he refused to tap out and he took down two more with him. Absolute boss!
I get chills and goosebumps every time I watch this part of the movie.
It's truely magnificent.
agreed and hi from 11 years in the future
@@Sn0wb0ardBum We stand together against the bug menace, no matter the amount of years between us!
I agree as well and me too
Hello from 2023
I saw this movie on opening day, in the theatres with about 4 of my friends. The sound system was so loud, that music, fucking loved every second of that movie even know its cheesy as fuck.
So funny how their CO yelling kill anything more than two legs you get me?! Is the guy that gets I paled to shit off of the get go lmfao
it is 2019 now and this movie is still one of my favourite, it never grows old
I heard that there was no cgi! They actually flew to a different planet and started a war just for our amusement.
Will always be a great film
@@brendankthomson4213 lol
and in 2020 too
@@invisiblekincajou 2021 checking in :)
Same here
I still find impressive how much punishment those arachnids can take before falling and even so they usually kill 1 or 2 soldiers before dying
Your basic Arachnid warrior isn't too smart, but you can blow off a limb, and it's still 86 percent combat effective.
Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem, and put it down for good.
@@lyghtspete bruh you replied to an 11 year old comment.
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE I’m doing my part.
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE would you like to know more?
Not only that in the books taking out the nerve stem simply sends them catatonic (where they eventually smash themselves to pieces), they actually have guns and every time one dies it signals the hive to grow another.
- _"We have an overpopulation problem."_
- _"Sir, the research department has discovered an hellish planet full of elephant sized monstrous insects."_
- * rubs hands * _"Excellent."_
Well if you’re trying to reduce population you should choose useless civilians over an effective and expensive army
@@qifangjenniferfu8767 Why do you think they were chosen for the Mobile Infantry?
MI does the dying because that's all the Federation thinks they're good for.
This movie is unironically one of my favorite guilty pleasures. I love the bulky designs, the propaganda-esque filmography, everything. But most of all I love the Marines designs and equipment.
why do i never get tired of this movie??
cause it's that good and practical effects that it used are always superior to graphics.
@@dimas3829 not only the effects. Effects are great and aged awesomely, but I feel it's more about the story it tells about the human nature.
MY LIFE FOR THE SWARM!
Omg Saberspark, how random to find a comment from you nine years ago. XD
Saberspark comment under a video and just 36 likes...? Wow.
Its always nice to know that more people have seen SST
Ooo hey saber
TRAITOR
Best SCI FI scene in history of anything....period
Music - yest. Everything else about movie is crap beyond words and disrespect to the book.
Homeboy is a beta. You are right, it is the best scene in history of anything.
@@piotrd.4850 another salty book lover. Can’t handle the fact that the movie is better than the book this time around. Cope.
Sacrifice of Angels - Deep Space Nine
I'm reminded of a SC2 Quote
Marine - "They're everywhere!"
Pilot - "THEN SHOOT EVERYWHERE!"
Thor and Marine conversation lol
At least they had Hellbats and Siege Tanks. Those poor souls on the other hand had jack shit and no chance :)
"Remember your Training and you will make it back alive"
Love that line. Makes me smile every time, cause they clearly trained to kill Humans, not Bugs. And it shows...
Know this comments old but what makes that funnier too is that guy is the first one to be killed.
somebody made big goddamn mistake.
The past is the guy saying it is the son of Gerald Ford
Zim: The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand
Bug: Hold my beer (no seriously, hold it, I can't....I dont have any hands!)
Immediately after him saying it a dropship explodes and I am thinking, "did they forget?"
Man this group needs a Commissar now.
"If you won't serve the Emprah you will serve before the firing squad!"
This army needs Stalin, right now
commies
Need more soldier's power? Just press E
For the emperaaaaaaah
Say what you like about the film, but you can't argue with those damn fine special effects!
Best thing is that the bugs still hold up to this day.
ST3: Marauder suffers a bit, but the effects in this one have held up amazingly
this film was fantastic. this scene is amazing along with the music, the timing of Sayumi's scream and the drop ship flares. gives me chills
7:00 This cameraman really loves his job!
XD
He "loved" his job. XD
He gets paid by the second
He loved so much that he would even die for it!
"You smash the entire area. You kill anything that has more than two legs!
You get me!"
What an outstanding pre mission briefing. Full of tactics and strategy.
The landing is so epic with all the troops pouring out of the dropships and the flares being launched and the music just swelling up. Truely an epic D-Day landing which will be matched by it's epic failure in about 5 minutes.
One of the greatest CULT classics of all time!
No air support, no heavy weapons, no flamers, no grenades, no tanks. Oh, wait, they have 2 rocket launchers and 1 cameraman.
696Ghost696 nukes bro
They have air support but cannot go to the planet thanks to the plasma fire, tanks cannot been deployed via orbital dropship because the crew would be cooked alived inside it and the enemy utilize underground tunnel that could trap a tank easy making it useless, flamers have no use against the bugs because their skim that is too thick, grenades and heavy weapons is a fair point, wait they have it but never used because they are praticaly recruits.
696Ghost696 No competent field officers, useful body armor, more sights than one per platoon, literally any infantry weapons other than assault rifles, no marksmanship or tactics of any sort. On a surface looks the attack was monumentally incompetent, on a small unit level it gets worse somehow.
In the novel the Mobile Infantry wears exoskeletons, armored battlesuits and atomic weapons.
Exactly. Why having all of that when you have portable nuke launchers that produce zero fallout :) And movie Morita rifles actually shoot pretty powerful ammo as well but the problem is that Arachnids are for the most part armored as a tank :/
What was always morbidly funny to me is how the most gung ho of them, Shigumi, was yelling happily on the way, and running forward shooting while yelling, "You want some?! Here's some!" And he was the second one to get killed without having killed even one. And he gets mutilated almost more than any of the others who got killed.
He was just scared and his behavior was the only way he could cope. Dead in Peace
Breaking formation, big no no!
A) Big fancy ships parked so close to each other i can hear the other person on the other ship sneeze? Check.
B) Blame bugs for being smart and able to hit ships. Check
C) Throw away fighter and bomber support for infantry advance. Check
D) Equip soldiers with plastic armour, and guns that don't do jack? Check
E) Send waves upon waves of soldiers, check. You are not zap Brannigan this will not work. You can't out rush bugs.
F) Paper thin Morale, check.
G) Awesome battle nonetheless? Check.
XD
If only they had better intel... And maybe shot few more of those nukes.
@@CliffuckingBooth and maybe had support that wasn't just Infantry
@@welkingunther5417 Well in this situation nothing would help them anyway cause it was an ambush and the whole bug army was waiting for them. Tanks or whatever would get swarmed quickly plus they would have got a hard time moving in this terrain. Best tactics are shown in the middle of the movie - Airstrike, then infantry with nukes to clear the rest. Also Hoppers giving air support a hard time since they kamikaze into the planes as stated in the ST video game.
@@CliffuckingBooth Ok, that is a fair point. I'll admit though, I wasn't aware there was a ST game, I might have to look that up.
"kill them all!
-1 guy dies
"lets get out of here!!!!"
-panicked retreat
an army of fail
To be fair the one man killed was their Plt Sgt with the most experience in the group 😂😂
@@Randomguy41639 yea and the fact that they saw him get shredded to pieces within seconds is enough to put heavy fear in your mind
Their commanding officer and one of their close friends died right away in brutal fashion.... the girl who said "let's get out of here." Was there so she could get a license to have children. Of course she isn't going to be a warrior lmfao. She wants to be a mom and raise children. Not fight some giant bugs who just tore her friend apart.
@@thehashslingingslasher6443 thats very sad. And yeah she did mention she just wanted to have children and she got killed by the arachnids. 😔
Not only that. The guns they are using were not meant to be used on the bugs. They needed high powered explosive weapons. It Takes about a whole magazine if not a few magazines to take only one bug down.
We are going in with the first wave. Means more bugs for us to kill... You smash the entire area. You kill anything that has more than two legs. You get me!
WE GET YOU SIR!
John Wick: DAMN
SL literary die in the first second during their first contact with bugs
And they are rip apart 😂
This Scene is so epic! One of the best OSTs EVER!
@BananaSandwich3000 "The enemy cannot hit the dislike button if you disable his hand..."
Perfect
4:48 Love how they immediately stumble upon seeing the bugs for the first time up close. Gives a small sense of “realism”
No matter how much time I rewatch this, I still impressive that they make the bug look real than any movie make from computer those day.
2:42 Captain orders for the ship to “Break to high orbit!” and Carmen decides to first manoeuvre under the colliding ships ahead instead of over them.
Training by shooting human dummies!
Captain:"shoot anything that have more than 2 legs! "
Marines:"😕😕😕"
That fleet was just asking to get mauled, flying in such an absurdly tight formation...
Question: how do they fly any differential than any other visual medium interstellar navy?
In the book two ships collide and kill plenty of troops.
Essentially starship Troopers laid the groundwork for all sorts of science fiction combat related works and even real-life programs. Making a purist, high quality, moocho spare no expense mini-series would most certainly be the most fitting toast to sci-fi developments like the Halo Series, The alien and Predator series and perhaps even Avatar (though some marauder suit soldiers would easily kill one of those robot walkers lol)
Make all the comparisons to the Imperial Guard/Astra Militarum all you like but at least they would have Tanks and Artillery supporting them and most of their enemies could shoot back.
Elysium Drop troopers have no artillery or tanks
Three companies of Blood Angels, a company of the Emperors children took heavy casualties fighting the Megarachnids on Murder. It took 10 companies of Luna Wolves and Horus himself with the help of the Imperial Army elements and Titans from Legio Mortis to have a fighting chance against them. Do not underestimate the bugs.
Yeah, except the Tyranids would be doing the same thing - along with several weeks of infinite bombardments, poisoning the atmosphere, terraforming the earth so everything wants to kill them, infecting their minds so all their leaders make worse decisions... then there are the genestealer cults and the genestealers themselves who can rip apart space marine armor like butter.
Their enemies also have a limit to their numbers. The number of bugs are unending and their numbers make them hard to defeat. Also tanks would easily be trapped and destroyed through clever use of sinkholes sucking tanks in and these bugs can cut through metal like paper so a tank would be easily destroyed by a decent swarm of bugs. In the novel troopers do have exo skeleton armor and heavy armor but because of the low budget the movie had to settle for conventional helmets and light armor
@@spearshake4771 orks would say otherwise.
"Remember your training and you will make it back alive!"
"Sir, does that include the part where we were told that our odds of survival are 1000 to 1?"
"...You're over thinking it!"
Also, was anyone else bothered by the fact that one guy using the shotgun attachment was more effective than a firing line of multiple troopers?
He should have used that to finish off the bug and then run away
i love how Kitten is right there next to Rico the whole time, and i feel that Rico took his death the hardest.
06:29 After the movie you realize: she was left alive for the Brainbug.
I think that she was brought to a Queen since they're in their Home Planet. Still what scares me is that she earlier talked that she wanted to have Children and Bugs would be Finding ways to Infiltrate.
Sound to me like she gonna get what coming to her
"remember your training, and maybe you make it back alive" ... grittiest quote ever
love how they all charge in and then after 5 mins they run back screaming :)
I love how they can steer this massive spaceship like a car, with just one steering wheel.
more like an airplane
How else are they supposed to steer it?
Have you ever seen the steering weel of an cruise ship? They're as big as a PlayStation controller.
*boltpistol sounds in the rear. You look up. Seeing a greatcapped large man wielding a roaring chainsword walking past the now headless corpse of your squadmate who fled. A boltshell tinking off your helmet*
"Pray for him, for his faith was weak"
"Rejoice! For my faith is endless! Forward!"
FOR THE EMPEROR !!!
Fun fact : the Tyranids are regularly referred as "Bugs" by the Guard.
“We’re going in with first wave, means more bugs for us to kill....”
Commissar in the 41st Millenium addressing Elysian Drop Troopers who are about to assault a Tyranid held planet.
The navy component commander would deserve court-martial on several counts, most egregious is not having any GODDAMN space between the ships and not glassing the dropzone first before sending MI in.
3:00 The original "Good thing those bugs can't aim"
No Communists have terrible aim
3 Dislikes? PUT YOUR HAND ON THAT WALL!
XD
MEDIC!
This was so epic to watch when i was a kid, best of all i watched this after i was obbsesed with Starcraft. So i kinda thought this was a Starcraft movie first when i was a kid.
I am sure StarCraft was a Starship Trooper game with added SpaceElves for balance. The similarities are too obvious.
Your men are running from the battle! SHAAAMEFUR DISPRAY!
I'm reading the book as I really liked the movie. Very surprised at how different everything is from the movie. For instance, mobile infantry are actually specialist trained to fight in a type of mechanized armor that weighs 2 tons, they are also fired out the carrier from space like bullets. The overt militarism in the movie is also not apparent in the book. Also Johnnie and Carmen are merely friends.
I think it's the fact that we get to see the fear in the eyes, the amazement, the horror and the thrill of each and every soldier that fights and dies. True, the movie takes it's liberties to change things, but I thought the Marines in ST movie are amazing to visually see what these people are feeling, thinking, compared to a suit that covers their faces too, right? If The Animated "Chronicles" or "Traitor of Mars" goes to show. It is more human than machine, ironically.
I loved this movie, and I am looking to read the books if I get my hands on them.
@@rockyrock95g90 check with your local library, maybe they can get a copy through interlibrary loan or something. I did today and they expect I can pick it up Thursday (not bad as I'm in a very rural area).
The overt militarism is in the messages of the book.
Somehow, back when I was in highschool, this movie made me want to join up and shoot aliens, even though I'd be the guy in the blown up spaceship that never even got to touch ground.
You'd be one of the lucky ones then
Analyzing why you felt that way is kind of the point of the film.
In reality now, we have the US Space Force and they can do combats like this in space. 😃🙌🏽🇺🇸🚀🛸
That's fucked up😭
Fun fact: The bug Shijumi shoots at 5:41 is the same one who takes his leg. Right after he shoots it and turns to the other you see the bug go "U WOT M8" and come over the ridge to him.
And that's why it is always important to confirm your kills, kids.
The Federation must have had the cameraman's family held hostage. It's the only way to explain his behavior in this scene.
“No armor? No air support? We don’t know what we’re up against. They have weapons we’ve never seen before!”-Clone Trooper Jesse
Kaguya sama love is war Season 3 Ed lmao
I come here after watched the ending.
Well, this is why bumrushing a species that would give the Zerg a run for their money without any kind of air or armor support is a BAD idea.
I would of begun with a Orbital Bombardment to suppress the Plasma Bugs and to hopefully get an a no-go area for the bugs.
Air support would then follow to drop guided nuclear missiles into anything that looked like a cave.
Then the Infantry would drop with armour support and try and create a beachhead.
I agree, but for all intents and porpuses this operation was based on bad intelligence reports that sugested an easy victory due to the lack of organization between the bug population. The Federation overestimated the enemy and paid with heavy casualties. However since nobody ever really knew if the bugs launched the meteor that destroyed Buenos Aires, it could mean that the Federation false flagged that catastrophe, the massive failure of the assault on the bug planet could also be planned in advance since it would boost the hate of the civilian population and their seek for revenge.
However even if the Federation nuked the planet back to it's early formation stage, the bugs would still survive in insane high numbers. For instance in the Second World War the US Navy carpet bombed entire islands occupied by the Japanese just to have their troops being blasted by almost all of the enemy soldiers that just waited inside their tunnels in the mountains until the bombing stopped.
Cynical people argue US Intelligence knew about Pearl Harbour and let it happen to have an official reason to enter the war with a united population.
This here could be along the same line. The movie never gives a clear answer, this is what makes it so brilliant and, ironically, so intelligent.
Isnt that what they did on the second planet?
If the sky marshal ever played starcraft then he should know that mass marines strategy is ineffective against zerg.
mass marine marauder mdvac is still the most played tactic by the best terrans in world... because they are goddamn easy to replace, micro, and mobile. just like the troopers here hehe.
Had director read a book, he might have actually make a decent movie...
Starcraft came after this movie though. You see the influence on how the zerg was developed.
@@Siore except Starcraft was develloped based on Warhammer 40000.
Though Tyranids show similarities with ST's Arachnids
@@KermitTheArchitect Except here they forgot to bring marauders and medevacs:) Pure marine with no upgrades against the swarm of Queens ;p
why does no one in these movies aim for the freakin nerve stem?!?!
Love This Drop !!! I Was In 1983 In The U.S. Army Infantry From Ft Benning Ga At Alpha - 6 - 1Basic Training Company !!! Seeing This Mobile Infantry Going Though This Drop Makes Me Wish Back Then In Our Training We Had All The Toys Of War This Movie Shows !!! We'd Kick All Sorts Of Troubles With The Best Greatest Of Ease !!! Remember- Remember Your Training & You'll Always Get Back Home !!! I Do !!! You Better Be Quick Or You'll Be Dead !!! Only The Quick Go Home Alive , The Dead Go Home In Bodybags !!! That's The Real Reality Of War !!! No Dressing It Up !!! That's The Truth !!! 👍😃👍
I never understood how Carmen survived after receiving a plasma burst right in the face.
Probably an editing error.
Yeah me too, been wondering she would have a horrific scar from that.....later on.....wut just small scratches?
Looked like the bridge could have merely been clipped by a blast which damaged a different part of the ship. As a result she most likely had burns on her face. Medically she could have had those cured as fast as the recruit with the broken arm
plot armor
CGI dudes smoked too much, thats how.
You know shit hits the fan when even the cameraman isn't safe.
2:21 'This isn't random or light'. Oh, wait, did someone ASSUME that the bugs have no intelligence, or tactical co-ordination... because they're bugs?
Yes, someone did make a mistake..... never underestimate your opponent. Never assume that they know less than you, because they seem inferior.
If my memory is correct, it is one of the first abd most important parts of "The art of war"
Like the u.s. underestimated the North Vietnamese
Even for a 90s movie it’s a lot more better than what we get today holly shit
I miss my first 10 years in a way... Was a 1990's kid and it was such a different world than today my God lol
"Follow me troops! Abandon the high ground in favour of a shallow basin where the bugs can get to us with minimal effort! Spread out so we are easy to pick off!"
The best part of this whole scene is that there is no music.
The helmets of soldiers was in Alien Resurrection and in Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes ending scene.
Iam going to tell my kids that this was the HALO movie...
Noice meme
"Remember your training and you will make it back alive!"
"Sir, does that include the part where we were told that our odds of survival are 1000 to 1?"
"...You're over thinking it!"
My favourite part 03:04 , hitting the ground, and storming out of the dropships, flares blasting out and charging out to look for something to kill.
Gives me chills every time
6:04 Him helplessly putting his hand up before getting brutalized gets me every time.
@KILLRAIN42 Remember, MI training and battle doctrine had all been about fighting other humans, likely in brushfire wars and counter insurgancy operations against reletively small forces of rebels. This is a battle for which they were totally untrained and unequipped.
The 5.56 caliber rounds that their Morrita rifles fire are likely devestating against soft, squishy humans, but to a bug, its like a bee-sting.
It said on the wiki that thing is supposed to be 7.62
need one of them magazines they last forever
Watching her get dragged away underground at 6:22 after knowing about the brain bug is a scary thought
as a kid i always found it horrofying how the soldiers died...
To me their not their hilarious
Just that one girl who fell, not knowing why it dragged her away instead of rip her apart and knowing that the brain bug sucks out brains is pretty horrifying.
this is F..ING EPIC! Music and battle at the same time
One of the most intense war scenes in movie history...I guess Human Exceptionalism can only carry you so far...?
This accurately portrays both the hype and the horror of the wave of new players trying Helldivers when it went on Playstation Plus in 2016.
some compare them to 40k imperial guard...
the IG would have raped the bugs without even trying.
After a few billions of deaths… Truth is at this point they would simply call exterminatus on the planet and wouldn't bother going down.
Imperial Lasguns would be more than sufficient to kill bugs. Leman Russ Tanks would crush the Warrior bugs with ease as well
@@Gothic7876 yeah imperial guard are more armed then this guy......them lasgun will rip em bug into tiny bits.
@@CliffuckingBooth lol you are underestimating the guards, you think the lasgun is their main weapon? oh no, its the standard issue pair of adamatium balls
@@duylai2224 Plus the absurd amount of air support and heavy artillery. It would be a cakewalk for them.
“We are going in with first wave, means more bugs for us to kill, you smash the entire area you kill anything that has more then two legs you get me?!”
WE GET YOU SIR!
this reminds me like how many goddamned marines it takes to kill a zerg....
All that technology, capable of spaceflight. So many ways to deal with the bugs. Orbital bombardment, Air superiority, mechanized armor, yet they deal with the bugs....with en masse boots-on-the-ground soldiers.
oh totally!
"dont worry ripley, me and my squad of ulitmate badasses will protect you"
Actual footage of Space Force enforcing border control against illegal aliens, 2099 colorized
this scene is incredible...what's happened to films?? These effects are BADASS and this was 1997!!
"Let's get out of here!"
A deep thinker.
Wow, that cameraman is really dedicated to doing his job.
*Cadian Shock Troops perform Valkyrie combat drop from orbit on Tyranid controlled planet. M40 colourised*
So much cliches
That's why I love this film
idk if its just me , but this clip in the beginning and when they're dropping in, of course its only sci-fi but its really really motivating
6:17 the one person I wish survived
1st I read the book, then I bought and played the board game by Avalon Hill, then I listened to the hit single by Sarah Brightman. Finally the movie got done and I loved it.
imagine those AMP Suits from avatar on this they would go well with this.
Starship Troopers:
We have the troops, we have the fleet.
But we don't have any fucking tanks.
Mobile Infantry was shooting a Human size Dummy in their training field, theres no plot hole in this scene its clearly seen that they have poor intelligence and logistics.
Just a huge army of dumb berserkers, and even the real berserkers were way deadlier than the mobile infantry! At least the real ones killed a good number of enemies in battle.
That or it's a propaganda film and these men were actually being trained to fight humans before the bug thing happened and they're using "old" footage from the training camps! Really this movie could be speculated all sorts of ways. it's an enigma to me.
"Thank god I'm wearing my plot armour, I am the hero after all...wait, did I remember to wear it on my left le- gaaaaaaagh"
Reading through the comments it seems there are a lot of people questioning why they deployed without efficient air support, why the fleets were spaced so close together, the lack of efficient ground based tactics and the questionable training of the troops with a lot of them hip firing or offering sporadic fire before they retreat in a full disorganised rout, and it seems a lot of this is being blamed on poor film making and continuity, alternatively, it's Hubris.
The Mobile Infantryman themselves believe themselves to be the best, not only have they been trained to fight other humans depicted in the training arc, they're seen training to fight against competing squads and firing at human targets, not to mention those bugs don't have hands to use in a nukefight, or nukes for that matter, a lot has been learned that simply is of no use, they're shown to be self superior and over confident before even deploying on their first action despite their high morale and the ironic call to "remember their training", they severely under estimate the bugs, this is slowly rectified throughout the film as they become more cautious and disciplined being seen to actually focus fire and take up strategic positions such as high ground, open terrain and structurally defended position with heavy weapon emplacements to use their firepower best to their advantage alongside air-support as they become more experienced fighting the bugs. It's heavily hinted that their doctrine was to overrun and overwhelm human opposition conventionally with mass numbers and shock tactics when deploying [The dropships are literally designed to get as many men on the ground as fast as possible with little concern for utility, manoeuvrability or survive-ability probably after the fleet nuked the surface.]
The Federation ships were clustered together around the carrier ships to provide a protective screen and to protect the drop ships, due to the military intelligence they received once again underestimating the bugs believing their orbital defensive capabilities to be random and light, this is of course false, there is great debate within the Federation whether or not these creatures even have the capacity to think let alone plan an ambush or make strategic decision making, but of course, they can as later we find out the existence of the Brainbug.
Thats right! The Maurauder suits. Plus the book was really more about them going through training and learning how to become officers and such rather than the fighting. It was actually a pretty intelligent book. If they ever decide to remake it EXACTLY like the book they should make it a mini series or something.
LOVE THIS SCENE!!!
'Spread out!'
'Or how about we pack together as tightly as possible to produce as dense cone of fire as possible so that we aren't picked off...'
Raiding Area 51 rare footage
One of the best sci FI movies ever if not the best
How to survive? Be the 2nd camerman
That knife throwing training was very useful.