I like how there's triumphant music playing when they're dropping, but no music playing when they're actually fighting. It hints at the distinction between the idealised notion of war (glory, honour, comradery) and the reality of war, which is brutal, bloody, and traumatic
I think it's interesting how Rico seems to notice the difference but instead of realizing the truth, he just internalizes his hatred and directs it at the bugs.
@@codafett Yeah, the satire is hilarious. And by the end of it, rather than ending up with the woman he joined for, he's just another career cog ready to die and be replaced like Rasczak.
The score for the drop sequence is absolutely some of the best in Hollywood. And the effects are incredibly well done. This movie is just so damn good all around.
I love how the first contact with the lone arachnid has a dozen soldiers going full auto for 15 seconds just to take one down, showing a single bug’s toughness. Then hundreds appear immediately after showing the soldiers are outmatched. Love this movie and To everyone wondering why humans invaded Klendathu with just infantrymen, the invasion was rushed and at the time of the drop, the Mobile Infantry was trained and armed to suppress small scale human insurgents on fringe colonial worlds, not fight Arachnids and they treated the operation like an exterminator going to fumigate an ant colony. And they paid the price for their arrogance.
The modern mindset that everything needs to have an "extended universe" or endless sequels is the problem. Appreciate good art for what it is. Tennyson's "Ulysses" doesnt have a Part II. Citizen Kane no "Revenge of Charles Foster Kane". By definition a sequel loses originality and for every Godfather II you get a hundred Caddyshack IIs
A real shame all the other Starship Troopers movies were crap compared to this. This film is legitimately one of the best satire / military war films ever.
Starship troopers 1 is one of my favorite movies of all time honestly at least they didn't ruin the franchise too badly with the other 2 the new matrix was so bad it ruined the whole series for me and now is no longer my favorite movie.
At 7:18 you see a trooper on the right screen in the background legitimately trip over. Moments later he runs back into the frame. Always made me laugh as it’s a genuine accident.
I feel like this scene would be 10 times better with more chaos, more troopers like as you mention on 7:18 randomly falling and attempting to rejoin the rest trying to escape. Not saying that this scene is bad or anything though.
@@Chevy64w Bro I watch this film with friends so many times! When you watch everything but the main action there’s so many funny moments. The prom dance scene as the camera zooms out theirs an extra going to town dancing lol
@@jayjay8970 Seen this movie so many times I can say pretty much every scene, word for word in order. But I've never noticed that guy falling over. I have noticed an extra at the end of the movie just standing around looking quite confused while everyone else is celebrating. He must've missed the briefing lol.
@@marksprague1280 I mean, yes, the movie has hardly any connection to the novel. But I actually much prefer this unique adaptation of a gory satire about fascism
@@marksprague1280 Didn't the dirrector of the movie ask someone to narrate the book for him because he said he couldn't read it himself as it was too boring?
The bugs were underground so it wouldn't work but they did use them, and if memory serves this was their first fight with the bugs and they expected an easy fight.
Because the battle on Klendathu wasn't meant to be a military victory. It was planned as a defeat to drum up support for the war. Earlier in the film you get hints that the asteroid strike was known to the government and they let it smash into Earth as an excuse to start a war with the bugs.
@@MrPalelight Airstrikes were effective (but not decisive) on the next planet, Tango Urilla. Somehow they lured a lot of the bugs to the surface where they were napalmed. MI went down to mop up, though curiously we don't see them going underground to get the survivors.
@@Hunpecked Well it would be safer for MI to stay above ground, considering underground means there won't be room to maneuver and there's also a problem with lighting. But then again, it would make sense for them to pursue the bugs and wipe them out underground with several nukes...
The scale of this scene always fascinates me, so many extras in some wide shots. Amazingly captured the feeling of going on a planet where thousand of bugs are swarming you.
In the wide shots they used CGI to make the crowd appear much bigger than it is. It has admittedly been 20 years since I've watched the making of but from what I recall there they explained that they recorded the same group several times from different angles and then assembled the shot with the huge crowd from that.
@@fotakatosonly four years apart, I remember seeing how they did that sort of compositing for super wide and aerial shots for Black Hawk Down, too. CG gets a bad rap because it gets done so terribly so often, but it can legitimately be unnoticeable when done right
I was thinking something like that, "that´s a tough soldier". I don´t think that even all the adrenaline in the World can help you "tolerate" such a wound. Some drugs maybe could do the trick.
@@nick3777 well, it’s not completely beyond comprehension. If you have something heavy enough then you could DYI a femur break! Just like you saw is Starship Troopers!
I love the look Rico gives Ace when he freezes up. Like "Dude, we don't have time for this." I also like to imagine the reason bug planets tend to be deserts is that the swarm consumes all the biomass around to feed the production of their massive warrior bugs and tankers, kind of like Tyranids.
The bugs don’t have a need for biomass, the reason about why the evolved like that it’s due to the radiation of their home planet and the lack of resources
Let’s just appreciate this wondrous time in cinematic history where the incorporation of digital and practical effects created some of the most visually stunning films. Starship troopers has aged phenomenally as a result of some ingenious vfx work.
It's sad really because all of his troopers failed him basically. That one bug caught them all off guard and he was the only one to regain his composure and start to fire. He even commanded everyone else to join him, but still he was the only one to return fire before he was struck down.
@@NYG5 Figure 80 troopers per dropship (2x40), 18 bays per carrier, and the fact that after the first group is out they said they were about 35% done, youre looking at about 4300 per ship. 100,000 dead is roughly 23 ships worth of people killed on the ground or in orbit, with nothing to show for it. No wonder the Sky Marshal was relieved of command.
I think that is just apt. at leas the 501st were sent in with Vehicle support. these guys are just sorta running into the fray. A+ for bravery, but hard F on tactics
@Haunted Pyro Gaming My theory is that the Federation picked a fight with the Arachnids so they would have an excuse to clear out some new colony worlds while removing a large chunk of their 'surplus population.' It was not until the ships in orbit were being hit that they realized what they had really started.
@-aepo- agreed. Between animatronics and scale models built coupled with just the right amount of cgi is what made movies like Jurassic Park, T2: Judgement Day and Titanic such hits
Almost 30 years later and it's still one of the best scene in a sci-fi movie, or even movie in general... The epic music in introduction that gives place to gunshots, screams and all the atmosphere around for a whole 8 minutes.
@@brendan5874 You don't need citizenship to have kids in SST. Both of Rico's parents are civilians and they're doing just fine, in fact they're quite wealthy. The ONLY thing civilians cannot do that citizens can is vote. Also military service isn't the only way to attain citizenship, it's just what's highlighted the most because this is a military movie where all the main characters are in the military, set during a war.
Anyone else find it weird the Warriors all grouped together and essentially just stood there and stared at the Humans for a few seconds, in fact they only reacted when they open fired on them. Not saying the freaks are peaceful or anything, but I like to think the bugs were kinda having a similar moment like what Rico and his unit were going through with it being their first battle ever
Notice as soon as the MI lets fear break their firing lines they start to get torn apart. Troops staying enmass and focusing fire could've kept the retreat orderly and avoided thousands of unnecessary casualties. The problem with the MI in this situation was that leadership on the ground panicked and lost all control. Notice how when Rico gave his platoon direction they were able to easily handle the first wave of bugs that came at them, but all it takes is one person losing it and it starts a ripple effect. If the MI platoon leaders had kept their cool and engaged in a rolling retreat they could've killed a lot more bugs and gotten a lot of troopers out alive. Imagine how much of a morale boost that would've been, "The MI outnumbered on a hostile planet engage in a structured withdrawal while inflicting massive casualties on the bugs, due to the calm and collected leadership directing highly trained troopers."
You'd think we'd get smarter in terms of tactics but hey let's just throw in 100,000+ dismounted troops with no clear objective, zero air support and combined arms. Ww1 in a nutshell
I never noticed that the first guy who gets it is their captain, leaving them completely rudderless and panicked. Turns out leading from the front isn't the best idea when you're fighting creatures the size of pickups
I like how so many people are criticizing this scene and the invasion as a whole, in terms of lack of military planning. That's the point, people, heh. This is an anti war movie and this invasion was to show how hubris in military operations happens and how young people are just fodder and pawns for Generals and politicians. Heck, just look at the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The all powerful Russian military has lost something like 10-20,000 KIA in three months to an enemy they were supposed to steam roll over and the average Russian grunt pays the price to his government's mistakes. That's just one of many examples, but I think you get the point....
There is no 10k KIA though. Several thousands from Russia and LNR/DNR dead - yeah, sure. With a much greater number of casualties on the opposing side.
Of the named MI characters in this sequence you have: Rico: Joined up because he didn't know what to do with his life and was just following his girlfriend Shujumi: Got accepted to Harvard but couldn't afford it and MI service would help pay for it McIntire: Wanted to be a mom and needed a pregnancy license Kitten: Wanted to be a writer and was interested in the life stories of people around him Ace: Wanted to be a career military officer When the actual fighting stars Ace, the only one interested in a military career, freezes up and all these other characters who joined just because they wanted basic benefits and rights are all killed hideously or severely maimed.
I always wondered how the bugs knew the fleet was in orbit and exactly where. The bugs have absolutely incredible surveillance. Probably better than we do today irl.
What gets me every time is the arrogance of the human thinking this was going to be a walk in the park and when they faced reality broke their spirits and retreat but the good thing about human is that we adapt really fast when you have the will to survive. I love this movie and never got a good sequel, wish for a reboot but seeing how Hollywood is these days I prefer to only have this classic
I was fortunate enough to see this in the theater. It was awesome. It has everything. Duty, humor, romance, action, sadness. I cannot praise it highly enough. 👍💪
They underestimated the bugs. These bugs are the result of millions of years of evolution, they haven't been around for that long by being careless or stupid. Also, they didn't have the right weapons for the bugs either.
Well, it IS weird that they happened to evolve specifically to be really good at interplanetary warfare, including specialised orbital artillery organisms.
Everyone keeps commenting on why the Mobile Infantry didn’t have heavier guns, or tanks, or close air support. You have to take into consideration where the Federal government military was at the time. The MI was, at the time of the Klendathu drop, designed to fight lightly armed insurgent colonies in the fringe of Terran space. They were not armed or trained to fight the Arachnids. The entire invasion was rushed with a blatantly arrogant view that invading Klendathu would be the equivalent of fumigating a pesky ant colony. They couldn’t understand nor appreciate what they were up against. The fact that their ground forces entire plan was ,’disembark, rush out form the LZ, kill anything not human’, shows how poorly planned the entire operation was. And they paid dearly for their arrogance.
Call me wrong if it's due to inexperience, but the fact that it took more than 5 troops at point blank range to kill at least one of them, said plenty to me about their odds.
The bugs have an exposed nerve stem that can be used to kill them very easily, the troopers are just panicking and massively over expending ammunition, which they don't do in the remainder of the movie. The myth of it taking eight troopers to down one bug comes from this scene with literally not a single other in the series showing it that way.
Oh good! I'm not the only one who noticed that. Also, why won't they give them armor to help them not get eaten alive??? It's just football equipment and slacks!! 😂
@@HappyJackKitty They are wearing body armor. Arachnid piercing claws are just so sharp and have so much weight behind them that they can easily pierce straight through it. Even in the original novel where the MI are wearing power armor, the arachnids are best kept at a safe distance.
In the 70'sI became a master of playing the aliens in Avalon Hill's board game Starship Troopers. Klendathu 2 was the biggest, and toughest scenario in the game,it usually took 12 hours to play
3:13 I like the shuttle firing off chaff, it's a cool visual but also makes sense now they're discovering the plasma bursts are not random but guided, so they're trying to cause confusion to give the other transports and the ships in orbit a bigger chance of evading the projectiles.
"Knowing is half the battle." - General Hawk from GI Joe They tally hoed on the planet while expecting easy victory. A soldier once said that it's better to overestimate the enemy than to underestimate him, he said that underestimating the enemy can be one of the worst things people can do, and in this scene, they clearly underestimated the bugs and suffered the consequences of it.
I thought Duke was a First Sergeant. Sorry, i grew up with GIJOE. I would read the biography for every action figure that was bought. Duke was one the first
Announcer: “Crisis for human kind. Fleet officials admit that they underestimated the arachnids's defensive capability. Accepting responsibility for Klendathu, Sky Marshal Deines resigns. His successor, Sky Marshal Tahat Meru, outlines her new strategy.” Sky Marshall Tahat Meru: “To fight the bug, we MUST understand the bug. We can ill afford another Klendathu!” Announcer: “Would you like to know more? Federal scientists struggle to explain the intelligent military actions of the Arachnids.”
I ADORE and LOOOOOOVVVVVEEE STAR-SHIP TROOPER's... AWESOME Series. And this scene was DAMN Intense. And yeah i am indeed aware the Federation/The Starship Trooper's did underestimate the Bugs/Arachnids but Look to the Bright side, the Federation Learned from their mistakes and Later on in the war Fought FAR WAY Better and Scored some Major Big Victory's. The Federation showed they truly can Learn from their mistakes and adapt quite quickly.
I don't know if you know but I only just found out recently they got a Starship Trooper strategy game called Starship Trooper: Terran Command coming out June 16th.
The music, the action, the thousands of men shouting a war cry in unison utterly determined to defeat an inhuman enemy that killed their loved ones. The single most hype scene in any sci-fi movie ever and a warning to all that this is how fascism makes you feel, and why it is so dangerous. Sublime.
Funny how it seems the shotgun attachment for the Morita is far more effective than the actual rifle itself, yet again, it’s a shotgun at damn near melee range so it makes sense.
You're under the impression that the .308 sized rifle rounds the morita fires wouldn't be far more effective against the plated bugs than some buckshot.
I was 28 when this hit the theaters, and it was, bar none, the most brutally violent mainstream movie I had ever seen. 25 years later, and we just yawn at it.
In the book version all I got was this: “operation bughouse should have been called operation madhouse. Everything went wrong.” Now I see what they mean.
I like how there's triumphant music playing when they're dropping, but no music playing when they're actually fighting. It hints at the distinction between the idealised notion of war (glory, honour, comradery) and the reality of war, which is brutal, bloody, and traumatic
I think it's interesting how Rico seems to notice the difference but instead of realizing the truth, he just internalizes his hatred and directs it at the bugs.
Or you kno we can just watch the movie for what it is and calm down with the autism lmfao
@@codafett Yeah, the satire is hilarious. And by the end of it, rather than ending up with the woman he joined for, he's just another career cog ready to die and be replaced like Rasczak.
It's kind of funny how the bugs are the ones with the tanks, artillery, and air support in the movie
Expectation vs Reality
You know the fighting is brutal when not even the cameraman survives
best Charakter a legend.
The cameraman was an idiot tho
One of the best comments on the internet, this.
7:42 Homie wanted to get all the shots he did not care about his life 😂😂
LOL the camera man loves the realism that the reporter gave
The score for the drop sequence is absolutely some of the best in Hollywood. And the effects are incredibly well done. This movie is just so damn good all around.
I looooove the score. When the ships crash into each other it's just an incredible build.
Basil Poledouris was an incredible composer. Not recognized nearly enough as deserved. So many classics under his belt. RIP
indeed. This was an A tier movie for its time
This movie is just amazing in every way better than TITANIC jk that movie blew chunks
@@ismokeweedforbreakfast Special effects-wise maybe, otherwise it was IMO incredibly stupid.
I love how the first contact with the lone arachnid has a dozen soldiers going full auto for 15 seconds just to take one down, showing a single bug’s toughness. Then hundreds appear immediately after showing the soldiers are outmatched. Love this movie and To everyone wondering why humans invaded Klendathu with just infantrymen, the invasion was rushed and at the time of the drop, the Mobile Infantry was trained and armed to suppress small scale human insurgents on fringe colonial worlds, not fight Arachnids and they treated the operation like an exterminator going to fumigate an ant colony. And they paid the price for their arrogance.
We can I'll afford another klendathu
It was done by design depopulation
You do know that this isn't real right??
Goddamn Sky Marshal Dienes deserved to get sacked. Dude was nothing but a butcher.
@@Perkelenaattori you do know that this is only a movie, right?
props to the guy with the camera for being second to last out and risking his life for those action shots
That wasn't just some guy, pal. That was a citizen.
he aint gonna miss all that "content"
Which one?
@@tetsuoswrath the guy with the camera who took an arachnid claw through the chest
@@dionjaywoollaston1349 well the one that didn’t lived to film another day.
Just baffles me why they can’t make an actual good sequel to this movie. I remember seeing this when I was 9 in theaters and just awe struck.
there's 1 good sequel it's just an animation called starship troopers invasion the 2nd animation film was garbage unfortunately
It's because Paul Verhoeven didn't direct the sequels. He only directed this one. He is up there with James Cameron as one of the best directors ever.
The animated sequel was actually good and featured some of the mech's that were apparently in the novels.
@@dtz1000 Isn't paul vorhoeven the one who plays Johnny? Or am I not remembering that right?
The modern mindset that everything needs to have an "extended universe" or endless sequels is the problem. Appreciate good art for what it is. Tennyson's "Ulysses" doesnt have a Part II. Citizen Kane no "Revenge of Charles Foster Kane".
By definition a sequel loses originality and for every Godfather II you get a hundred Caddyshack IIs
Wanted to watch this again after playing Helldivers 2 over the weekend.
Same 💯
Same here too
SMH nobody brought railguns or shield packs, no wonder they got destroyed
@@catalystactual6491lol right how stupid from them
Omg Yassss! 👊
A real shame all the other Starship Troopers movies were crap compared to this. This film is legitimately one of the best satire / military war films ever.
Starship troopers 1 is one of my favorite movies of all time honestly at least they didn't ruin the franchise too badly with the other 2 the new matrix was so bad it ruined the whole series for me and now is no longer my favorite movie.
Starship Troopers Roughnecks Chronicles, the animated series, is the closest you will get to as good as the first movie.
This movie is only satire if you let it be.
@OmegaTrooper The third one was actually ok, it captured the satire aspect and it introduced suits, which was closer to the book.
@@steampunkgenerationbut very bad CGI. I think second is good horror with some better CGI than 3rd one.😢
At 7:18 you see a trooper on the right screen in the background legitimately trip over. Moments later he runs back into the frame. Always made me laugh as it’s a genuine accident.
I feel like this scene would be 10 times better with more chaos, more troopers like as you mention on 7:18 randomly falling and attempting to rejoin the rest trying to escape. Not saying that this scene is bad or anything though.
This comment needs one hundred times more likes, idk how you noticed that dude falling
@@Chevy64w Bro I watch this film with friends so many times! When you watch everything but the main action there’s so many funny moments. The prom dance scene as the camera zooms out theirs an extra going to town dancing lol
@@jayjay8970 Seen this movie so many times I can say pretty much every scene, word for word in order. But I've never noticed that guy falling over. I have noticed an extra at the end of the movie just standing around looking quite confused while everyone else is celebrating. He must've missed the briefing lol.
Never noticed that lmao
The first Starship Troopers is the best in the series. There's lots of in-depth meaning inside this master-piece of Sci-Fi movie at that time.
The book was good . Things went all to hell in the transformation to the movie.
@@marksprague1280 Ah you're one of those not in on the joke.
@@tomorbataar5922 No, I'm one of those who hates to see an excellent book butchered by an inept producer.
@@marksprague1280 I mean, yes, the movie has hardly any connection to the novel. But I actually much prefer this unique adaptation of a gory satire about fascism
@@marksprague1280 Didn't the dirrector of the movie ask someone to narrate the book for him because he said he couldn't read it himself as it was too boring?
For a civilization so dedicated to war and militarism, you'd think they'd be able to afford some tanks and aircraft to soften the bugs up
The bugs were underground so it wouldn't work but they did use them, and if memory serves this was their first fight with the bugs and they expected an easy fight.
Because the battle on Klendathu wasn't meant to be a military victory. It was planned as a defeat to drum up support for the war. Earlier in the film you get hints that the asteroid strike was known to the government and they let it smash into Earth as an excuse to start a war with the bugs.
@@MrPalelight Airstrikes were effective (but not decisive) on the next planet, Tango Urilla. Somehow they lured a lot of the bugs to the surface where they were napalmed. MI went down to mop up, though curiously we don't see them going underground to get the survivors.
@@Hunpecked Well it would be safer for MI to stay above ground, considering underground means there won't be room to maneuver and there's also a problem with lighting. But then again, it would make sense for them to pursue the bugs and wipe them out underground with several nukes...
Well in this time line, the Russians won the big one, and thats why throwing people at problems are fine,,,,, LOL
Remember that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
And by "slow and insidious" we mean "quick and ridiculously violent".
The movie also suggest that this was on purpose. The intelligence already knew the capabilities of the bugs...
Ain't that right Putin?
That's how all militaries train there grunts......so there's no room for rational thoughts
I thought I was supposed to remember my training…
I still love the dedication of Verhroeven to make the effort to have practical effects even for a 1 second shot
8:02
"SWEET LIBERTY, MY LEG!"
It could also be 5:33 lol
:D :D :D :D :D :D
The scale of this scene always fascinates me, so many extras in some wide shots. Amazingly captured the feeling of going on a planet where thousand of bugs are swarming you.
In the wide shots they used CGI to make the crowd appear much bigger than it is. It has admittedly been 20 years since I've watched the making of but from what I recall there they explained that they recorded the same group several times from different angles and then assembled the shot with the huge crowd from that.
@@fotakatosonly four years apart, I remember seeing how they did that sort of compositing for super wide and aerial shots for Black Hawk Down, too. CG gets a bad rap because it gets done so terribly so often, but it can legitimately be unnoticeable when done right
Rico takes the absolute destruction of his femur pretty well.
I was thinking something like that, "that´s a tough soldier". I don´t think that even all the adrenaline in the World can help you "tolerate" such a wound. Some drugs maybe could do the trick.
The pain is prolly beyond our comprehension. Biggest bone in your body split in half like that Jesus!
@@nick3777 well, it’s not completely beyond comprehension. If you have something heavy enough then you could DYI a femur break! Just like you saw is Starship Troopers!
That shotgun attachment is awesome!
@@handleonafridge6828 I'm good big dawg haha
I love the look Rico gives Ace when he freezes up. Like "Dude, we don't have time for this."
I also like to imagine the reason bug planets tend to be deserts is that the swarm consumes all the biomass around to feed the production of their massive warrior bugs and tankers, kind of like Tyranids.
The bugs and many other things from the movies and book were inspiration for warhammer 40K.
The bugs don’t have a need for biomass, the reason about why the evolved like that it’s due to the radiation of their home planet and the lack of resources
@@David-iv9bt That isn't what he is saying. He is saying GW liked the book version of the bugs and made a copy of them for warhammer with alterations.
Ace in the book was actually a good squad leader.
It’s probably just the environment they most thrive in.
Let’s just appreciate this wondrous time in cinematic history where the incorporation of digital and practical effects created some of the most visually stunning films. Starship troopers has aged phenomenally as a result of some ingenious vfx work.
I love how much they build this up and they get absolutely demolished. Love the music too, it hits so hard.
"everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the face " - Mike Tyson.
or in this case... until they get stabbed by a giant bug.
The absolute dedication of the cameraman is impressive
Sgt. “You kill anything that has more than 2 legs!!! You get me!?”
Platoon: “Yes sir!!!”
Probably the single best line in the movie!!!
"Remember your training or you won't make it back alive" First Marine the bugs kill
Da winner is...
@@mosesmosestv Except he says "Remember your training and you will make it back alive." Or was your change deliberate?
*immediately kill the Company dogs*
@@artm1973 🤓
The CO has a pretty epic speech at the beginning. Too bad he was the first one to get killed, charging in first.
What a HERO of the Federation
It's sad really because all of his troopers failed him basically. That one bug caught them all off guard and he was the only one to regain his composure and start to fire. He even commanded everyone else to join him, but still he was the only one to return fire before he was struck down.
@@Gbari7 : "They are not ready." - nathan algren.
I’d like to know more
7:24 You can barely hear it but over comms you can hear "The extraction is being overrun". How many ships just left troopers behind in a panic?
they say the vast majority of casualties occur during a rout, I think this is where the 100,000 dead in one hour comes from
good ears!
@@NYG5 Figure 80 troopers per dropship (2x40), 18 bays per carrier, and the fact that after the first group is out they said they were about 35% done, youre looking at about 4300 per ship. 100,000 dead is roughly 23 ships worth of people killed on the ground or in orbit, with nothing to show for it.
No wonder the Sky Marshal was relieved of command.
@@Hotarg Well, he was pressured into resigning. But ye word
Yep way to many
At 3:15, remember guys, this is a stealth mission!
hahhahahahahahahahaah
the bugs like “oh sweet uber eats is here bois”
Still one of the most iconic scenes ever.
Facts
5:52 Him helplessly putting his hand up to stop them gets me every time.
He saw it coming. He played Rambo and died like a dog. Smh
Baygon have better chance to stop em
6:18 used to terrifyed me.
@@kuronyra1709 *Has very naughty thoughts thanks to the darkness of the internet* God help that poor woman
@@kuronyra1709 well knowing what brain bugs do, we know exactly what would happen to that woman.
“No recon? No air support? We don’t know what we’re up against. They have weapons we’ve never seen before!”-Jesse
Well said
No pre-invasion bombardment? and no AFVs... very odd.
I think that is just apt. at leas the 501st were sent in with Vehicle support. these guys are just sorta running into the fray. A+ for bravery, but hard F on tactics
to be honest it was mainly just pride, they did this mainly cause they though the bugs were quite literally just bugs
Imagine having the bugs send a meteor from one side of the galaxy to the other - around 100,000 light years - and no one was able to see it.
This is why gathering information on your enemy is important. Rather than rushing in like bullheaded fools and getting your troops slaughtered.
Rushing into battle "leroyyyyy jenkinssss"
They already have intelegent but their intelegent is wrong about bugs capabillity
it's a movie , what do you expected???
At least no bug was harmed in the making of this movie.
@Haunted Pyro Gaming My theory is that the Federation picked a fight with the Arachnids so they would have an excuse to clear out some new colony worlds while removing a large chunk of their 'surplus population.' It was not until the ships in orbit were being hit that they realized what they had really started.
The federation didn't care, they are a social Darwinist society, human life was no different than the bugs.
3:14 Such an awesome shot. Such an epic scene.
Finally found this comment, nobody talks about it
I think it's my favorite shot in the entire movie.
This movie was beyond his time.Better sci-fi effects in 1997 than in 2022.
Lol ok dude.
the artists and animators actually cared about the movie in this scenario, just like og jurassic park.
agreed, todays CGI doesnt look nearly as good
@-aepo- agreed. Between animatronics and scale models built coupled with just the right amount of cgi is what made movies like Jurassic Park, T2: Judgement Day and Titanic such hits
The special effect is good, the story ???
Well....
The soundtrack to this movie was amazing.
Most Helldivers at 5:19
They should have just used their stratagems
They could never repeat the people and power required for this scene.
This is glory beyond the modern film.
The OG helldivers
Almost 30 years later and it's still one of the best scene in a sci-fi movie, or even movie in general... The epic music in introduction that gives place to gunshots, screams and all the atmosphere around for a whole 8 minutes.
This movie broke all norms. Killed the cameraman.
😂😂😂😂
Not the cameraman 😢
Cloverfield exist!
4TH WALL
Watching this after playing HELLDIVERS 2 is something else lol..
Me and the boys jumping into a Helldivers 2 match
How is Helldivers anyway? I haven’t gotten around to playing it.
@@CEOofBased56-hx7xf I can’t recommend it enough. I’ve been playing with my friend non stop since launch at least when we can get on the server lol
For Super Earth!!!
@@CEOofBased56-hx7xfit’s a amazing game which I wouldn’t miss out on
@@CEOofBased56-hx7xfYou sound like you are against Democracy.
"REMEMBER YOUR TRAINING!!! AND YOU WILL MAKE IT BACK ALIVE"
Lol he was the coolest character.
This is a accurate depiction of Helldivers 2.
@06:10 Realized later in the film she got her brain sucked out probably. Still one of the best films to date. Thanks for upload.
damn I never thought about that but you're right
@@quack_stackAnd she only signed up for the MI because she wanted to be a mom and needed to be a citizen to have kids...
@@brendan5874 You don't need citizenship to have kids in SST. Both of Rico's parents are civilians and they're doing just fine, in fact they're quite wealthy. The ONLY thing civilians cannot do that citizens can is vote. Also military service isn't the only way to attain citizenship, it's just what's highlighted the most because this is a military movie where all the main characters are in the military, set during a war.
Anyone else find it weird the Warriors all grouped together and essentially just stood there and stared at the Humans for a few seconds, in fact they only reacted when they open fired on them. Not saying the freaks are peaceful or anything, but I like to think the bugs were kinda having a similar moment like what Rico and his unit were going through with it being their first battle ever
I always thought they were a bit confused at first. Like “what are you, and why are you here?”
Dramatic effect. It really is that simple.
@@dashawnbonnett5847 "Did we order takeout?"
@@Great_CthulhuYeah, that’s just the right amount of disturbing.
oh you almost had it!! too bad
I love the absolute dedication of 5he cameraman
we gotta give the federation SOME footage of the disasterous invasion to censor afterall-
The only cameraman that didn’t survive.
7:46 even the cameraman couldn't survive the massacre...
Making Fake news haha
@@californiabrotherhood8114 he must have been in the brotherhood
Camera guy was asking for a death sentence
THE CAMERAMAN CANNOT SURVIVE ANYTHING??????
Luckily the second cameraman didn’t die the entire movie. That guy was probably paid more
1:35
“REMEMBER YOUR TRAINING AND YOU WILL MAKE IT BACK ALIVE”
Literally one of the first KIA yeah okay buddy you must have forgotten yours😂
"Remember your training and you will come back alive"
Also the training: fight people with lazer quest guns
Also, that guy is among the first to get eaten
All they needed to win this battle is a lil research, which means just kidnap 1 bug and experiment on its armor
It is very funny how dogshit their training is.
basic training in the ST universe is a joke fr.
The cameraman had more discipline than all those soldier
literally gawking in the middle of a warzone to the point he gets himself killed
FOR SUPER EARTH! FOR DEMOCRACY!! 🫡
When you and your squad try your first helldive mission
Notice as soon as the MI lets fear break their firing lines they start to get torn apart. Troops staying enmass and focusing fire could've kept the retreat orderly and avoided thousands of unnecessary casualties. The problem with the MI in this situation was that leadership on the ground panicked and lost all control. Notice how when Rico gave his platoon direction they were able to easily handle the first wave of bugs that came at them, but all it takes is one person losing it and it starts a ripple effect. If the MI platoon leaders had kept their cool and engaged in a rolling retreat they could've killed a lot more bugs and gotten a lot of troopers out alive. Imagine how much of a morale boost that would've been, "The MI outnumbered on a hostile planet engage in a structured withdrawal while inflicting massive casualties on the bugs, due to the calm and collected leadership directing highly trained troopers."
That’s exactly what I do in STARSHIP TROOPERS TERRAN COMMAND LOL especially when I’m pulling back
True but you are talking about an Earth who deliver its army to an hostile planet in cargo containers as if they're a commodity.
Okay General...
Harry nava. Call of duty
Yep 100%
Missed the opportunity of announcing “Initiating operation Helldive”
LMAO this was like, 1998
@@wargolemx102Brainrot has its casualties
Where’s my fellow Helldivers at? Spreading Managed Democracy, one magazine at a time!
You'd think we'd get smarter in terms of tactics but hey let's just throw in 100,000+ dismounted troops with no clear objective, zero air support and combined arms. Ww1 in a nutshell
Well, the movie is satire. I'm sure that was the point it was making. How disposable land troops are treated as.
@@josephjoe4180 it does make it funny tho. Unlimited rounds and it take an entire squad to kill just one.
Even in wwi they had a stupid amount artillery in most engagements. There’s not an ounce of strategy present in this movie. Still entertaining though
Don't you know that's what mobile infantry is good for?
yea tbh, the mobile infantry dont seem too disciplined, they just straight up run in guns blazing, no tactics what so ever
13 years old when first watching SST, and i remember thinking how awesome future movies will be, only to realize much later that this was peak
I never noticed that the first guy who gets it is their captain, leaving them completely rudderless and panicked. Turns out leading from the front isn't the best idea when you're fighting creatures the size of pickups
I like how so many people are criticizing this scene and the invasion as a whole, in terms of lack of military planning. That's the point, people, heh.
This is an anti war movie and this invasion was to show how hubris in military operations happens and how young people are just fodder and pawns for Generals and politicians. Heck, just look at the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The all powerful Russian military has lost something like 10-20,000 KIA in three months to an enemy they were supposed to steam roll over and the average Russian grunt pays the price to his government's mistakes. That's just one of many examples, but I think you get the point....
And is proof that Verhoven did not read whole book. It is like made a LOTR movie and do not read second and Third bok of saga.
It’s also worth noting that the movie is excellent satire and points out the major issues with fascism and uber patriotism
@@bedlams9594 also makes for a fun video game
This is the one of the two reasons I know why my dad didn’t like this movie, besides that they didn’t have mechs in it like in the book.
There is no 10k KIA though. Several thousands from Russia and LNR/DNR dead - yeah, sure. With a much greater number of casualties on the opposing side.
that was freaking brutal.
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What sticks with me in this scene is when Shizumi is thrown to the whole pack of bugs and torn apart.
And seeing the Warrior Bugs throwing his limbs up in the air
well Harvard was gonna cost an arm and a leg, so
I like how in this movie theirs a scene of children stomping on bugs, and in this scene the bugs are stomping back.
Of the named MI characters in this sequence you have:
Rico: Joined up because he didn't know what to do with his life and was just following his girlfriend
Shujumi: Got accepted to Harvard but couldn't afford it and MI service would help pay for it
McIntire: Wanted to be a mom and needed a pregnancy license
Kitten: Wanted to be a writer and was interested in the life stories of people around him
Ace: Wanted to be a career military officer
When the actual fighting stars Ace, the only one interested in a military career, freezes up and all these other characters who joined just because they wanted basic benefits and rights are all killed hideously or severely maimed.
Paul verhoevan needs to do more sci-fi movies.
Total recall
Robocop
Starship troopers
Those are just not enough, give us 1 more!!
love the work ethic of the videographer
@1:48 me when I heard about Starship Troopers: Extermination 😁😁😁😁😂😂
I always wondered how the bugs knew the fleet was in orbit and exactly where. The bugs have absolutely incredible surveillance. Probably better than we do today irl.
My money is on the brain bug. It probably sucked up a few brains and learned how to combat them in the sky and on the ground.
@@shade1121-ce8dc The movie Armageddon put it perfectly, "It's a big a** sky"
They can accurately launch asteroid strikes across the galaxy at their enemy's primary planet, orbital defenses would be trivial.
“Allied destroyer has joined squadron”
What gets me every time is the arrogance of the human thinking this was going to be a walk in the park and when they faced reality broke their spirits and retreat but the good thing about human is that we adapt really fast when you have the will to survive. I love this movie and never got a good sequel, wish for a reboot but seeing how Hollywood is these days I prefer to only have this classic
Nobody is gonna believe this but the jump master (first dude to get killed by the bug) in this scene is my boss
No way dude, that's so cool
6:16 I always wondered if that Warrior Bug took her back to the Brain Bug…
Probably it's heavily implied that this is the first major military engagement from both sides so it wouldn't surprise me.
Yes it did.
It look like she got a date with a big bug lol
Probably did
@@mercerholt8299 I love this damn movie and it’s fandom, I find something new every time I watch it.
I was fortunate enough to see this in the theater. It was awesome.
It has everything. Duty, humor, romance, action, sadness.
I cannot praise it highly enough. 👍💪
Me too. At 7 years old haha. I loved it.
How about a nice cup of liber-tea !
MY LIFE FOR SUPER EARTH
@@baldwiniv5339sweet liberty my leg!!!!
They underestimated the bugs. These bugs are the result of millions of years of evolution, they haven't been around for that long by being careless or stupid. Also, they didn't have the right weapons for the bugs either.
They aren’t “bugs”, they’re aliens. That just so happen to look like bugs.
@@endingworlds They're insects, but they're not native to Earth.
Well, it IS weird that they happened to evolve specifically to be really good at interplanetary warfare, including specialised orbital artillery organisms.
@@PODSMPSG1 They’re aliens. We’re aliens to them as well, they clearly don’t have mammals on their planet…
@@HaganeNoGijutsushi any form of insectoid life form is highly specialized, now imagine insects that evolve on their own planet.
Sweet Liberty, His Leg!!!
All the helldivers are watching this and learning from our ancestors mistakes 😊😅
This movie is a good lesson to always bring tanks to war
Bugs would simply dig tunnel under the tanks and sink them underground.
LETS GOOOOOOOO Starship Troopers: Extermination is out on Steam!
Already playing it and IT’S AWESOME!!!
Everyone keeps commenting on why the Mobile Infantry didn’t have heavier guns, or tanks, or close air support. You have to take into consideration where the Federal government military was at the time. The MI was, at the time of the Klendathu drop, designed to fight lightly armed insurgent colonies in the fringe of Terran space. They were not armed or trained to fight the Arachnids.
The entire invasion was rushed with a blatantly arrogant view that invading Klendathu would be the equivalent of fumigating a pesky ant colony. They couldn’t understand nor appreciate what they were up against. The fact that their ground forces entire plan was ,’disembark, rush out form the LZ, kill anything not human’, shows how poorly planned the entire operation was. And they paid dearly for their arrogance.
true the federation were arrogant
Like Benito Mussolini's Italy entering the African theatre of World War II expecting the British to fold like a house of cards. Spoiler: They didn't.
I like how the heroic music keeps playing as the fleet is getting annihilated
That poor small ship, it was one of the smallest ships of the fleet and got sniped by a single shot from land to orbit.
smol ship got rekt
Call me wrong if it's due to inexperience, but the fact that it took more than 5 troops at point blank range to kill at least one of them, said plenty to me about their odds.
The bugs have an exposed nerve stem that can be used to kill them very easily, the troopers are just panicking and massively over expending ammunition, which they don't do in the remainder of the movie. The myth of it taking eight troopers to down one bug comes from this scene with literally not a single other in the series showing it that way.
Oh good! I'm not the only one who noticed that. Also, why won't they give them armor to help them not get eaten alive??? It's just football equipment and slacks!! 😂
@@HappyJackKitty They are wearing body armor. Arachnid piercing claws are just so sharp and have so much weight behind them that they can easily pierce straight through it. Even in the original novel where the MI are wearing power armor, the arachnids are best kept at a safe distance.
“that mission had a low survival probability.” - actual line from the film
In the 70'sI became a master of playing the aliens in Avalon Hill's board game Starship Troopers. Klendathu 2 was the biggest, and toughest scenario in the game,it usually took 12 hours to play
3:13 I like the shuttle firing off chaff, it's a cool visual but also makes sense now they're discovering the plasma bursts are not random but guided, so they're trying to cause confusion to give the other transports and the ships in orbit a bigger chance of evading the projectiles.
I thought shuttles were firing off signal flares to show their positions to other shuttles?
Diz is so much hotter than Carmen in every way. Jonny I’ll never know what you were thinking guy!
RIP Cameraman. That guy is a legend, what a dedication to the job!
"Knowing is half the battle." - General Hawk from GI Joe
They tally hoed on the planet while expecting easy victory. A soldier once said that it's better to overestimate the enemy than to underestimate him, he said that underestimating the enemy can be one of the worst things people can do, and in this scene, they clearly underestimated the bugs and suffered the consequences of it.
I thought Duke was a First Sergeant. Sorry, i grew up with GIJOE. I would read the biography for every action figure that was bought. Duke was one the first
Announcer: “Crisis for human kind. Fleet officials admit that they underestimated the arachnids's defensive capability. Accepting responsibility for Klendathu, Sky Marshal Deines resigns. His successor, Sky Marshal Tahat Meru, outlines her new strategy.”
Sky Marshall Tahat Meru: “To fight the bug, we MUST understand the bug. We can ill afford another Klendathu!”
Announcer: “Would you like to know more? Federal scientists struggle to explain the intelligent military actions of the Arachnids.”
Best damn A-plus B-rated sci-fi movie EVER!
I LOVE THIS MOVIE!!!!
Shujumi's death is so brutal and nice
That's what he gets for running in like it's Call of Duty and straying from the group. If he had stayed in formation, he would have lived probably.
That final stand with the under barrel shotgun! Vicious
I ADORE and LOOOOOOVVVVVEEE STAR-SHIP TROOPER's... AWESOME Series. And this scene was DAMN Intense. And yeah i am indeed aware the Federation/The Starship Trooper's did underestimate the Bugs/Arachnids but Look to the Bright side, the Federation Learned from their mistakes and Later on in the war Fought FAR WAY Better and Scored some Major Big Victory's. The Federation showed they truly can Learn from their mistakes and adapt quite quickly.
I don't know if you know but I only just found out recently they got a Starship Trooper strategy game called Starship Trooper: Terran Command coming out June 16th.
@@shootinandstabbin I do Know. Thank You. VERY Kind of you though to Say to Me Just in case i did Not Know.
@@seanmager1168 I love it becuase it takes from almost everything in the franchise
@Great White 14 already did. It's pretty neat. Just need more weapons
The music, the action, the thousands of men shouting a war cry in unison utterly determined to defeat an inhuman enemy that killed their loved ones.
The single most hype scene in any sci-fi movie ever and a warning to all that this is how fascism makes you feel, and why it is so dangerous.
Sublime.
The music man... the music sells it...
By the same guy who made the RoboCop music.
Like how the cameraman is still filming while the reporter is being eaten lol
Earned my cape last week. Long live democracy!!!! Helldivers2!!!!!
When you play Helldivers 2 for the first time
This movie still holds up quite well
6:13 me attempting to show off my alpha male gamer pad
Funny how it seems the shotgun attachment for the Morita is far more effective than the actual rifle itself, yet again, it’s a shotgun at damn near melee range so it makes sense.
You're under the impression that the .308 sized rifle rounds the morita fires wouldn't be far more effective against the plated bugs than some buckshot.
Probably because the thing had its mouth wide open. Id wager that hurt
@@ThatZenoGuy Perhaps the random spread made it more likely to hit the exposed nerve stem rather than the ablative chitin up front.
@@tau-5794
That is very much possible, good point.
I was 28 when this hit the theaters, and it was, bar none, the most brutally violent mainstream movie I had ever seen. 25 years later, and we just yawn at it.
We? Really??
i tried yawning at it.... COULD NOT. ITS STILL EPICCCCC
@@highhorse902 That's fair. I still love it too!
Very underrated soundtrack.
In the book version all I got was this: “operation bughouse should have been called operation madhouse. Everything went wrong.” Now I see what they mean.