The real reason for dolphin over DBX for the small ship explorers is DAT SUPERCRUISE TURN RATE (and scoop rate). Switching back to the DBX or a jumpa-conda is like dragging your space legs through molasses. Here for the jokes though, and still hilarious! BZZZZZZZZZZZ
Hey now...the iEagle ties for fastest ship in the game (post-engineering) AND still has maneuverability unmatched by the others that hold that title. It's costs more than the viper3 but the viper can't drift like the iEagle.
From fighting different types of ships in my career i can say just about anything can out perform the IEagle, all that speed and maneuverability is useless when you get melted by anything that has more than one hard point compared to the regular Eagle it feels like the normal Eagle lasts longer against my Viper 3 than the IEagle, though thats a trait shared by most imperial ships, poor armor. Thats just my opinion
@@tex8564 Yeah you're not wrong. While the Ieagle shares the top speed spot with the Viper and has more maneuverability, at that speed that's pretty much all it has. I think it's a smaller ship with a slimmer hitbox for what that's worth, making it hilariously good at slipping between bigger ships in the mailslot and darting in and out of landing zones. If you ever wanted to be THE fastest data runner in the galaxy, the engineered Ieagle is definitely a blast to fly. Shame there's no call for pure unarmed racing ships...
@@therealbahamut the one weird red and white looking one, the Mamba? I think it's called? I believes lore says it originated as a racer may try that, the IEagle doea have 1 good use in combat, pirating, if they don't comply you have decent weaponry against low level freighters and if they fight back you can outrun most freighters. I've heard of people engineering ships to go over 400 what ever the in-game speed unit is, personally regarding combat for small ships i think the Viper 3 is best, a good set of hard points and all round good fighter, a good use for Eagles may be capital ship defense for when Fleet carriers come into the game, small fast maneuverable ships can run rounds against single attackers, actually that may the best way to make Eagles/IEagles work, pack tactics
Yeah about that, type 6 is cheaper and have room for 2x class 5 cabin and when i tried dolphin i couldn't fine lucrative mission for luxury cabin mission to carry 6 economy passangers was paying better.
If you use the Dolphin, use it for long range tourism mixed with exploration. You will have a 30 to 35 LY jump range and you must take heat sinks along with a fuel scoop. No FSD. One passenger cabin. 20k ly trip will pay, with exploration around 120+ million.
The Dolphin jumps a little shorter than the DBX, but in exchange for that, you get a ship that's faster, more maneuverable, smaller for landing on rough terrain and Guardian sites, and has an extra 5-size optional internal slot that can fit a nice big fuel scoop that won't leave you pausing at stars like the DBX. And it runs so cool that I can jump from stars' coronas without it ever getting above 60% heat. In other words, a lovely civilized long-range exploration vessel.
Yep, this. The maniacal laugh is entirely appropriate when considering the Dolphin's combat capabilities, but not enough space (internals) for exploration? Maybe if you compare it to some much more expensive medium and large sized ships, but it's basically "best-in-class" for a small exploration ship. (I'm expecting you'll say DBX is that, which has LESS internal space than the Dolphin, though higher jump range -- just saying.)
@@sephiridan5279 I fly a dolphin for space tourism and light exploration, plus, it is pretty and has a nice view from the cockpit for exploration. I do agree with Yamiks however that in combat, yeah, it is about as threatening as a sidewinder with those 2 small hardpoints, so I don't even bring guns since why bother.
So first of all VR in Elite is the best :P anyway, on the note of DB Scout … here's t he thing. There is a lineup of small ships that have the same hardpoints, namely 2x class 1 and 2x class 2. However; DB Scout has all of these clustered together on the sides of the cockpit. Slap gimbal weapons on it and combined with the speed and maneuverability you can butt fuck your targets all day long (until you run out of MC ammo that is). Out of all the small ships I like it the best for combat, even better than Viper mk. 3, because Viper, like the rest of them, has two of the hardpoints way back and on the belly. So you're much less effective in dealing damage. Plus, the DB Scout just owns Viper in jump range and fuel capacity. To sum it up. if you decide to go bounty hunting in a small ship, especially with a new commander, this is a really good choice. Unlike that dumpster fire called Viper Mk4. I tried. Don't ask … it was a phase.
Bad but not worst ships. I've got a dolphin because I'm lazy and explore the bubble while not refuelling too often. I've got an imperial eagle because it helps me fleeing from enemies :)
The DBS is a engineered railgun nightmare for big ship killer for hot shot pilots. Still you gotta have tons of skill to pull it off. It can be turned into a glass cannon.
@TheYamiks Lol man, Your cynicism is showing! Some of these ships are actually good... in PVP. Viper4: upsized powerplant from Viper3 means that PA/rail builds are much easier to fit, allowing the Viper4 to be viable in PVP content versus player-engineered FLYING BRICKS with thousands of hitpoints worth of shields or armor. Viper3 has a much harder time fitting for speed and dps at the same time, so it struggles to kill anything bigger than it is in any time less than 30 minutes and a multitude of synthesis reloads. I.eagle: same deal from the eagle, and the 1 medium hardpoint means that fitting a PA is even possible. DBS: coldest running ship in the game, faster than the DBX - fully tanked, you have 2000 hull and a hard to hit stealth bomber. Also great for some of the new "content" VS installations and megaships. Challenger: Take Gunship. Drop Fighter-bay for Moar Speed. Loose 1 medium hardpoint, get one more small. Fit all Fixed Multicannons. Actually succeed in chasing down and murdering your targets. Why is the Challenger "bad"?
My DBS has 2,500+. Shieldless, I use it in high CZs, taking down Elite Corvettes. PvP, nothing with the firepower to kill you is nimble enough to turn and face you. It's brilliant
Nice video, wanted to skim the comments first and happy to see a few people liking Dolphin. I tried exploring in ASP Explorer, quickly sold it and went back to my Dolphin, I just like the way it flies.
Diamondback Scout is probably the best small combat ship that isn't a Vulture, and the best choice for combat under 2 000 000 credits, so how you think it's bad is beyond me.
Definitely. It was my first serious combat ship in ED and i was killing pirates left and right, even middle class ships. It was making the pirates in Eagles jealous, because i could maneuver with them, while being able to survive more than 2 hits and having +1 medium hardpoint.
How 2 Fix: Viper 4 = little more agility. Dolphin = little more jump range Dropship = more jump range as mentioned. Also why not give it fighter bay support? DB Scout = A little less hull mass, a little more shield and jump range OR bring down it's price so it's closer in cost to the Cobra 3 Crusader = Revision entirely into an Alliance counterpart to the Federal Gunship. New unique model. Not a butchered Challenger. Or at the very least just fix the damn hardpoint doors. iEagle = No changes. It's fine. Challenger = No changes. It's fine.
Challenger could REALLY, and I do mean REALLY use a class 7 reactor. Trying to feed so many hardpoints off the same reactor as BeefChief, doesn't really work out. ESPECIALLY when trying to mount Guardian weaponry for thargoid hunting, I'd prefer being able to go for an Armored power plant instead of Overcharged, for the better heat efficiency and improved integrity, since I'm going up against corrosive shit with weapons that generate a lot of heat.
@@bujtorm you raise a good point. It does basically require overcharged. Mind you almost every combat ship has power capacity issues without serious tweaking
@@BenYork-UBY Noticed. I'd still rather compromise and go for a mixed energy/ballistic build on them instead of cutting my power plant integrity in half. Armored still gives a little boost to power, enough for Efficient beams/rails/plasmas or Rapidfire pulse to work with some multicannons in the mix, and the extra heat efficiency Armored Power Plant provides also comes handy when mounting plasma, beam or rail.
Since I found Dolphin's stupid class 5 luxury cabin could be replaced by a mighty class 5 guardian FSD booster, it becomes one of my favorite exploration ship. Even after some engineering work and module removing, the jump range is ~65ly at most, definitely not in the excellent tier (but quite good when actually using it), and an engineered Dolphin with a class 5 FSD booster is as expensive as a space vibrator made by gold (compared with DBX's similar performance build cost). But this is a vibrator you can drive to visit some really hot black holes...
Ah, the dolphin. A favourite little double-decker bus of diplomacy, that detonates if you deploy hardpoints. But i tried mining in a type 7 using All the hardpoints, so my judgement isn't to be trusted.
DBS can be good tho when configured right. Used to murder condas on silent running with that thing, sniping systems after slogging through the shields. Bit lackning as far as firepower goes, but meh, decent low price bounty hunting ship if you make the effort to set it up for the job.
I actually used the Dolphin for early diamond mining. Good jump range.. and it's got a big enough hold for all the components. I'm sure it's not great.. but it's decently maneuverable and fast.
I frequently play Elite with a couple of friends, and wanted to be able to multicrew with them and have them fly fighters while I fly the main ship, just to screw around and have a good time. The Crusader is the cheapest ship that supports SLFs, and thus the Party Boat was born! I've had a lot of fun with it, and really like the maneuverability. Surprisingly, it's also turned out to be a respectable mining ship, and has paid for itself many times over.
I like it for planetary missions. It's tough enough to survive base defenses, has terrific hardpoints for a large beam and 4 medium dumbfire missile racks (which are spectacular AoE weapons against base defenses and skimmers... Just aim vaguely in their direction, no lock needed... and can work in a pinch against a ship in the restricted maneuvering of a dogfight over a planetary surface) and as a multi-role, you can cram the SRV and DSS in there easily. Fly in, flatten the defenses with AoE, land, drive in srv to scan the target. The flying brick look suits a fire support/troop transport.
My memory may be failing me but I thought they nerfed skimmer mission into Oblivion because of Vindicotor Jones's amazingly OP Dropship build? Also didn't the Diamondback scout do silent running so well FDev had to redo stealth mechanics?
Yamiks, my dude. Your feelings aren't objective. Viper MK IV: the best small multi-role, piracy, PVP (yes really). It's not fast but maneuvrable and tanky as hell. Diamondback Scout: basically an icy running attack helicopter! Try 4 short range blaster railguns. Dropship: the rank requirement is easily met and what you get is a cheap but tanky mining ship. Dolphin: GREAT explorer! You trade about 10 ly jump range compared to the DBX for a bigger fuel scoop, speed and luxury cabins.
@@TheYamiks You didn't explicitly but you are giving objective sounding arguments while missing a lot about the ships. Also it kinda defeats the purpose of these videos. I love your rants and that's why you always get an upvote from me. But imo you should more often clarify that you don't know half of what you are talking about. Like you do when talking about game design, you know?
Diamondback Scout is actually a really good choice for certain setups in PVP. You can sit in Silent Running for the entire fight and it has excellent maneuverability and decent gun placement. It doesn't hit hard but it can be an absolute dick move if you want to play that way.
Hey, the Dolphin was a FANTASTIC entry-level passenger ship. WAS. It got me hella rich doing 25mil/hour runs around Sothis/Ceos and Robigo up until they nerfed the mission boards so you could no longer stack passengers by board-flipping. That little dildo-rocket bought me my Federal Corvette and Void Opal mining AspX (which, in turn, bought me my 220m/hr Painite-mining Anaconda). Now I use mine for exploration, since I haven't the heart to scrap the old girl - it handles great and does the job well.
Absolutely disagree when it comes to the Imp Eagle. It's actually my favorite combat ship period and I can wreck any large ship with mine. Facing small ships like an Eagle is more challenging, but a wing of CMDR Imp Eagle is nothing to mess with. Especially if they have rails
Looks at feed: oh look yamiks made new vid. Reads title: sees dropship and bad in same sentence NANI THE F*CK! Laughs in Rinzler You should probably put quotations like you "review" series had if you gonna be biased ;P
Dolphin is one of the best ships for grinding engineering and eng materials. Amazing jump range, can jump while scooping, and can carry everything you ever need for getting those materials(srvs, scoop, afmu, collector limpets, scanners, etc) and can land everywhere.
Can’t agree on the dolphin. I outfitted one as an explorer, and, frankly, nine optional internal slots, along with the capability for a class 5 fuel scoop make it a more enjoyable small explorer than the DBX, despite losing 7LY in jump range. I get 55LY out of mine with an AFMU, repair limpets, shields AND a 4G SRV hangar. It’s easier to land than the Phantom, and handles great in supercruise. I have a Phantom, DBX, and Dolphin kitted out for exploration, but I really am liking the dolphin. Oh, and I can charge the FSD while it sits in the fueling zone of any star, because it runs ice cold.
Funny thing I just found out about the Viper MK4 which makes it a monster is... its ramming capacity. With its additional Hull capacity (and/or shield) and increased weight, ramming into any small and even some medium shield is devastating. You can destroy most small ships' shield by just ramming into them and as Viper MK4 has the shield mass capacity of a medium ship, this leaves it with still an active shield after the impact. With its ramming capacity, the average survival time of the opponent in any small ship is about 30 secs if you know how to ram ships (which isn't a skill many practice).
The massive cooler that runs across both sides of the Dolphin isn't just for show. It can start jumping while you're still scooping and it won't even sweat.
You use mediocre ships because of... personal challenge? Outside jokes i think it's nice to use something different even if inferior, most people use like the best 5 ships in the game to min-max but when you have all the money, ships and upgrades you need already you try to use something else for a change. I don't like visually the Dolphin, you do little with it min-max wise but it flies very smoothly and for collecting materials on planets it's nice. Sure with Type 6 you can do more but it's not as enjoyable when you dock manually ;) PS still i agree that they could tune, at least the newer ships they'll release, better for certain roles. I like the idea of variants of the same ships, like explorer/scout for the ASP, even if really not designed for what it could bring to the table gameplay wise with the current balance.
Wait the MKIV can have up to 3600 hull, 50% resists and a not too different manuverability as a ViperIII without the obscene pitch rates. Yamiks needs them G5 drives on the MKIV..
I'm confused as to why the challenger is on this list, it's a pretty good alternative to the Chieftain trading a little bit of agility for a higher dps. If you don't cock up your configuration you get a really strong ship to bounty hunt in. What perplexes me is this idea that a ship in the same series of the original is supposed to be better in every way, not everything needs to be an upgrade Yamicks :)
Agreed. It's not a broken ship at all. It's great for hres/cnb pve. It doesn't sacrifice that much agility at all for the more loadout options and armor it gives you. I think Yamicks has just never used it for combat before It's not like the horribly mis-implemented crusader, which still has disconnected hardpoint doors
@@Trooper10231 Heh, I am one of those weird people who put rails and plasma launchers on every ship that screams "I am a hull-tank assault ship and you should treat me as such" so pretty much all of the medium ships I own with exception of the fer de lance and python. :p My challenger is pretty much a heavier Federal assault ship, not as fast, but still stupid quick on the acceleration and I can fling it around to take pot shots at whatever sod is chasing me, or just fire the afterburners and punt anything that is chasing me out of the way. (Hull reinforcement mods ftw) I love the Challenger.
A grade on everything in my viper MK4 is actually pretty good as a bounty hunting ship i think, i mean the rebuy cost is great and i usually dont have a problem out maneuvering other players unless they actually have their ship engineered or know how to fly way better than i can but i actually enjoy it and even though i have a anaconda and bigger ships idk might be just preference but i do enjoy to bring it out of storage every once and a while to blow up some scrubs
This series you're doing is great, hope to see more after you've completed the ships :) P.S: Maybe engineering, not sure what can be tiered there besides MC ammo types. Could try finding the absolute best modifications and what not I suppose o7
Eh, to hell with rank grinding for ships, I’d rather rank-grind for permits, as that tends to happen faster (or at least you get the Sol permit fairly early on in the ranks. Dunno about the Achenar permit, though).
I really like the dolphin, earned me good cash in the earlier stages when i was fed up with mining with those 3-10m tourist missions to 100-400ly systems +exploration cash.
I own a dolphin. I even bought Horizons to unlock it. Can confirm it is only good for passenger missions.... and even then, you'd be better off just getting a Type 7 and outfitting it with more cabins than your mother's cookie tins. Also the Dolphin sounds like two cats fucking in a wind storm. But after all that..... I love meh Dolphin :)
I got the dolphin for exploration because its good for landing on planets. I know its not great for combat yet somehow I took out two combat focused ships when I was attacked, I was gagged and probably so we're they. It's pretty manoeuvrable with engineering.
DBS is nice-handling with better hardpoint placement and jumprange than Viper. Dolphin might has most capacity for a small-landing pad other than Cobra MkIV, is a bit faster than T6 and has better shields than T6. I think it’s a pretty good smuggler, especially with illegal passengers.
Well, I might argue with one thing: with passenger cabin slot unrestricted and two small slots added Dolphin now has as much slots as Phantom and even more than DBX or Asp have, so it's difficult to say that it has too little slots for exploration. I mean, who has enough? Well, actually, Anaconda does, but we just can't compare every explorer with Anaconda, right? I mean, can we? %)
This may have been changed since I played more often, but doesn't the Diamondback Scout have the coldest-running systems of all the ships? If that's the case, that means it's a prime choice for silent running combat. Too bad that type of combat got nerfed so hard
I am going to argue for the dolphin actually. Aside from the Cobra 4, which only a few can get, the dolphin is capable of hauling 72T of cargo with a reasonable 22ly jump range, before engineering. This is all on a small ship capable of docking on outposts easily. The T6 in comparison can haul 96T of cargo, but requires a medium pad and only has a 19ly jump range. True, the T6 will cost you 2.1 million less than the dolphin. For me, this is enough to put the dolphin in the 1 use category. Can't really consider it good, but in this specific capacity, no other ship is better for the job.
Don't touch my Diamondback Scout! It was my first serious combat ship, and i still use it time to time. It's almost as maneuverable as an Eagle, but unlike Eagle can actually survive more than 2 hits.
for me the low turn rate of the driftship is the best with flight assist of you can mess people up in pvp soo bad becouse they think you will newer be able to shoot back.
DBS is my latest ship. I use it for hacking megaships. I like its hardpoints better than the DBX too. Also have Dolphin. Very nice for taking rich idiots on tours. Dropship I have briefly owned in my own Fed rank grind. I think it would be good if it was made to be more the hulltanky competitor for Python. Unspecialize at least one of the military compartments and have more range. That'd be a start, at least. Of the rest I have no personal experience. I love the Chieftain, but those variants are just bizarre. Why Lakon, whyyyy?
I would agree and disagree with opinion of FDropship. A lot of people said that it's good for mining - it is, but if exclude surviveability ASP Explorer have about the same internals. I personally use Dropship because i just dislike ASP Explorer looks, but it still have a lot of negatives - crazy drift (it makes me want to put A-rated thrusters because of this, on a mining ship), bad shields (normally i wouldn't complain but with drift on this beast i often smash the rocks or mailslot), jump range is shit (i always bring type-6 for transporting mined stuff). But, to be honest, it's main purpose is combat and it's somewhat viable ship for combat. Not a PvE(depends of style), but PvP, where maneurability isn't much of thought and boost is important. Yes, not the fastest boost speed but it can boost about indefinately, and while boosting it also gives that sweet sweet maneurability. In FAon it is really not the best ship, but FAoff and frontal attacks - good. Again, in PvE hull tanking is less effective than in PvP, and there is a lot of hull. Biggest downside for me on this ship is it's bad heat resistance - it overheats while scooping star after about 12 seconds, so lasers isn't really an option. Only third rank requred - it's really easy to obtain, and you start(atleast was) in feds space so missions usually would be taken from feds(that's how i reached third rank without notice when was making money doing trading missions on type-6), and in my opinion it's a better unlock than Imp. Courier (Courier is a good ship, sure, but i prefer more specialized ships to multiroles(personally have only one multirole ship - Adder, which i use for light PvE/planetary missions/Search&Resque from thargoids mostly because i don't like to have bounties on my DBX and it's cheaper to rebuy)). But it's mostly outplayed by it's elder brothers, so it's far from the best. Another role it's good at and a few people consider it - cheap AX ship, and by cheap i mean even without engineering and unlocking guardians. 2.4k hull without engineering and 3k with a little of it(lvl 2 on hull reinforcements and mil grade composite), low shields is perfect for thargoid combat, and most important 1L 4M weapon slots. As we know all experimental AX (not unlockables) is M sized as minimum, so it gives us maximum firepower. Fit it up with all multicannons if you just want to kill scouts. Or, another bonus of it - because it's 5 slots it makes perfect setup for AX 2 MC, 2MissileL and one flak. With enough skill you can solo cyclops, and that is without any engineering or unlocks. It's not the best, but it's really good and it's cheapest ship for AX duties.
Impirial eagle is just fun to fly in combat zone it does not have to be good just put railguns on it and have some fun practicing aiming with fixed weapon and turned of flight asist and if you fail it won't cost you to much
DBS has low heat signature and can be used to ambush. It has good hard point placement and one of the best maneuverability profiles for its size, plus better jump range than most small ships. Weak canopy. It's a good small fighter!,
I get to be 'that guy' for a moment: The Dolphin is the king of small landing pad trade vessels. I know that's a misnomer to people used to trading enough Narcotics or Onionhead in a single transaction to become the space-faring version of Pablo Escobar, BUT... hear me out. For rare goods trading, it has 88 tons of potential max cargo space, it still fits on a small landing pad so getting 'locked' from an Outpost by an AFK player or especially dopey AI on the medium landing pad is never a concern, the jump range and fuel-scooping possibilities mean it'll go anywhere within the bubble with pretty much no effort, and while a Type-6 *IS* cheaper to outfit (hell, so is a Keelback), the Dolphin flies better than both of them and the T6 is only marginally faster in a straight line.
Why you can't compare the Viper IV to the Viper III: Viper III = super low budget Fer-de-Lance = combat ship Viper IV = super low budget Python = multipurpose ship Also, the Dolphin is very good as a cute little space taxi, and its flat underside makes it easy to land on planets, plus it outjumps the Hauler by at least 11 Ly.
The scout and the dolphin make good, affordable smugglers. The big dollar missions make you jump all over the freaking galaxy. And if you get busted and shot, it does not break the bank.
Any decent pilot can make a marginal ship good. If you couldn’t make any of those ships work that’s on you. Viper 4 is an arguably legitimate PvP ship. But you’re not a big PvPer
the dolphin is useful for wanted tourism. I havent tried it recently, however I could make 20mil an hour using it. However, honestly thats all I used it for. Other then looking kinda pretty it was a poor mans yacht
I’m sorry. One time I ended up taking a bath inside of a Star with my dolphin. I thought I did something wrong, but someone told me it was a glitch, when it happened and I thought I was going to blow up…..nope. It was like I wasn’t even close to it.
I got the DBS and I still use it to this day for exploration. Why? I like it more in principal than practice. I was too cheap to afford a DB explorer. Lost interest in Horizons before I could afford the upgrade. End of story.
I love the Challenger. I think is a pretty good ship. Besides, is cool AF, which is something rare in this game. BUT... I also got a Crussader, and made it fully engineered with all cannons (also engineered) just for some laughs... and ended up loving that nonsensical crap with a spoiler 😂.
I disagree on two parts imperial eagle is nearly the same as the viper mk 3 except on hardpoints and power. The Diamondback Scout has it's place among the engineering hotshot flight assist off pilots who like to take out anacondas with a railgun and make amazing videos doing it.
Viper 4 is not an upgraded viper 3, it is another ship in the viper family. It's a very good small pirate ship. Better at piracy than Viper3. Your problem is that you wanted it to be better, and so you demand it MUST be or it is bad. WRONG.
@@FrankieBoyThe1NdOnly If you're either really good at sniping or you're using gimbals. PvP it has a bit of a problem for combat with another combat pilot. But piracy, even PvP piracy, it has more than enough to work the shots in and keeps enough cargo space without risking much in survivability to make it worth actually pirating with it. Viper 3 you'd be able to spare a class 2 cargo rack... Viper 4, you can use at least a class 4. It only "Sucks" if you want it to be a Viper 3. If you want that, just go buy the g-d viper 3.
@@markhackett2302 engineered mk4, using either 2 rails and plasmas or cannons and rails. The beauty of it is its faster than most of the ships your zapping and its hard as fu*ck to hit, if the other person uses gimbals just pop a chaff, mk3 and is better handling but weaker core modules and less hull makes it worse imo
@@TheYamiks "cobra3 is better" Not for combat. Poor shields and effectively the small hardpoints are a washout for combat. Too far back and hidden in a turning fight for almost every combat pilot who will tend to have the enemy go over the canopy rather than under the nose and out of sight. If missiles were a better choice, they'd be a decent idea for the small hardpoints and this may have been what they were supposed to ape from the OG elite. Medium multicanon with thermal and small missile rack with increased mag capacity.
well you want to enter the atmosphere ass first because your primary thrusters are designed to handle extreme heat and can shield the rest of your ship from shock heating.
new idea for stupidity?? Dolphin ganked squad? I mean you can't kill anything but the hauler might have a fun story to tell of the time a group of Dolphins attacked it....
Yamiks please you forget the Empire took what those Federal pigs created with the Eagle and injected the glory and splendor of the Empire into it thus creating the perfection that is the Imperial Eagle... clearly that gives it +100 to all stats. Basque in the glory and splendor of the Empire... basque harder dammit!!
Most of these ships are good. Soloed my first thargoid interceptor in a DBS (which is also the best silent runner in the game) and the challenger is literally on of the best pvp and thargoid ships out there. Please literally prove me wrong in game. I’ll take on any medium ship you have in my dbs
I LOVE the dolphin tho xD the squeaky boost especially
My inner tachanka main wants to to be a dolphin combat main
@@thewootpanda Underappreciated comment
@@XGD giddamn right my man. Its the wrong crowd
@@thewootpanda I am trying a railgun dolphin. It seems to work surprisingly well sometimes.
The real reason for dolphin over DBX for the small ship explorers is DAT SUPERCRUISE TURN RATE (and scoop rate). Switching back to the DBX or a jumpa-conda is like dragging your space legs through molasses.
Here for the jokes though, and still hilarious! BZZZZZZZZZZZ
Hey now...the iEagle ties for fastest ship in the game (post-engineering) AND still has maneuverability unmatched by the others that hold that title. It's costs more than the viper3 but the viper can't drift like the iEagle.
From fighting different types of ships in my career i can say just about anything can out perform the IEagle, all that speed and maneuverability is useless when you get melted by anything that has more than one hard point compared to the regular Eagle it feels like the normal Eagle lasts longer against my Viper 3 than the IEagle, though thats a trait shared by most imperial ships, poor armor.
Thats just my opinion
@@tex8564 Yeah you're not wrong. While the Ieagle shares the top speed spot with the Viper and has more maneuverability, at that speed that's pretty much all it has. I think it's a smaller ship with a slimmer hitbox for what that's worth, making it hilariously good at slipping between bigger ships in the mailslot and darting in and out of landing zones. If you ever wanted to be THE fastest data runner in the galaxy, the engineered Ieagle is definitely a blast to fly.
Shame there's no call for pure unarmed racing ships...
@@therealbahamut the one weird red and white looking one, the Mamba? I think it's called? I believes lore says it originated as a racer may try that, the IEagle doea have 1 good use in combat, pirating, if they don't comply you have decent weaponry against low level freighters and if they fight back you can outrun most freighters. I've heard of people engineering ships to go over 400 what ever the in-game speed unit is, personally regarding combat for small ships i think the Viper 3 is best, a good set of hard points and all round good fighter, a good use for Eagles may be capital ship defense for when Fleet carriers come into the game, small fast maneuverable ships can run rounds against single attackers, actually that may the best way to make Eagles/IEagles work, pack tactics
@@tex8564 Dont use mamba for racing, viper mk3 is best, maxes out at 932 m/s when fully engineered
Knowing your skills you would propably lose against a PVP dolphin instantly
I named my dolphin "The Short Bus" and cannot imagine any other name that is even remotely acceptable.
Apparently USS Flacid Chode is also great, well at least for me it seems compatible with that ridiculous ship.
@@chaoswarriorbr A ship is never flaccid though is it? Maybe "Errect Cucumber" Or "Fantasy Phallus" would be better.
Ever considered using the dolphin for tourism?
Yeah about that, type 6 is cheaper and have room for 2x class 5 cabin and when i tried dolphin i couldn't fine lucrative mission for luxury cabin mission to carry 6 economy passangers was paying better.
If you use the Dolphin, use it for long range tourism mixed with exploration. You will have a 30 to 35 LY jump range and you must take heat sinks along with a fuel scoop. No FSD. One passenger cabin. 20k ly trip will pay, with exploration around 120+ million.
@@simonburling3762 btw how long take mission like this with 35ly range?
@@simonburling3762 or you could make 10 times as much money in the same amount of time mining
With it's 1 Class 5 Passenger cabin and 2 Class 4 Passenger cabins? No thanks
The Dolphin jumps a little shorter than the DBX, but in exchange for that, you get a ship that's faster, more maneuverable, smaller for landing on rough terrain and Guardian sites, and has an extra 5-size optional internal slot that can fit a nice big fuel scoop that won't leave you pausing at stars like the DBX. And it runs so cool that I can jump from stars' coronas without it ever getting above 60% heat. In other words, a lovely civilized long-range exploration vessel.
Highly disagree with dolphin here, it's like the king of small ships for exploration. Jump range might be lower than of DBX, but better internals.
Yep, this. The maniacal laugh is entirely appropriate when considering the Dolphin's combat capabilities, but not enough space (internals) for exploration? Maybe if you compare it to some much more expensive medium and large sized ships, but it's basically "best-in-class" for a small exploration ship. (I'm expecting you'll say DBX is that, which has LESS internal space than the Dolphin, though higher jump range -- just saying.)
@@sephiridan5279 I fly a dolphin for space tourism and light exploration, plus, it is pretty and has a nice view from the cockpit for exploration. I do agree with Yamiks however that in combat, yeah, it is about as threatening as a sidewinder with those 2 small hardpoints, so I don't even bring guns since why bother.
So first of all VR in Elite is the best :P anyway, on the note of DB Scout … here's t he thing. There is a lineup of small ships that have the same hardpoints, namely 2x class 1 and 2x class 2. However; DB Scout has all of these clustered together on the sides of the cockpit. Slap gimbal weapons on it and combined with the speed and maneuverability you can butt fuck your targets all day long (until you run out of MC ammo that is). Out of all the small ships I like it the best for combat, even better than Viper mk. 3, because Viper, like the rest of them, has two of the hardpoints way back and on the belly. So you're much less effective in dealing damage. Plus, the DB Scout just owns Viper in jump range and fuel capacity.
To sum it up. if you decide to go bounty hunting in a small ship, especially with a new commander, this is a really good choice. Unlike that dumpster fire called Viper Mk4. I tried. Don't ask … it was a phase.
Not to mention that it has the best thermal performance of any other ship, making ideal for silent builds...
William Sternritter Yep, the Mk 4 is my drunk ship for pissing around on planets XD
Bad but not worst ships. I've got a dolphin because I'm lazy and explore the bubble while not refuelling too often. I've got an imperial eagle because it helps me fleeing from enemies :)
isn't the DBS the ship with lowest heat sig when configured right?
Yes, but who gives a rats hairy ass?
It also has great weapon convergence and has a similar flight style to the Eagle and Vulture.
@@petezzzz well, stealth torpedo ship for alpha strikes are kinda nice in teamfights tbh. also to annoy people ^^
Correct. Gives it really good use as a heist ship for installations and mega ships.
The DBS is a engineered railgun nightmare for big ship killer for hot shot pilots. Still you gotta have tons of skill to pull it off. It can be turned into a glass cannon.
The dolphin vibrator jokes give me life
@TheYamiks Lol man, Your cynicism is showing! Some of these ships are actually good... in PVP.
Viper4: upsized powerplant from Viper3 means that PA/rail builds are much easier to fit, allowing the Viper4 to be viable in PVP content versus player-engineered FLYING BRICKS with thousands of hitpoints worth of shields or armor. Viper3 has a much harder time fitting for speed and dps at the same time, so it struggles to kill anything bigger than it is in any time less than 30 minutes and a multitude of synthesis reloads.
I.eagle: same deal from the eagle, and the 1 medium hardpoint means that fitting a PA is even possible.
DBS: coldest running ship in the game, faster than the DBX - fully tanked, you have 2000 hull and a hard to hit stealth bomber. Also great for some of the new "content" VS installations and megaships.
Challenger: Take Gunship. Drop Fighter-bay for Moar Speed. Loose 1 medium hardpoint, get one more small. Fit all Fixed Multicannons. Actually succeed in chasing down and murdering your targets. Why is the Challenger "bad"?
My DBS has 2,500+. Shieldless, I use it in high CZs, taking down Elite Corvettes. PvP, nothing with the firepower to kill you is nimble enough to turn and face you. It's brilliant
Nice video, wanted to skim the comments first and happy to see a few people liking Dolphin. I tried exploring in ASP Explorer, quickly sold it and went back to my Dolphin, I just like the way it flies.
Diamondback Scout is probably the best small combat ship that isn't a Vulture, and the best choice for combat under 2 000 000 credits, so how you think it's bad is beyond me.
Definitely. It was my first serious combat ship in ED and i was killing pirates left and right, even middle class ships. It was making the pirates in Eagles jealous, because i could maneuver with them, while being able to survive more than 2 hits and having +1 medium hardpoint.
DBS ... awesome AX-Interceptor Sniper in Wing with 4 Gauss Cannons :) ... THANKS for your vids - o7!
How 2 Fix:
Viper 4 = little more agility.
Dolphin = little more jump range
Dropship = more jump range as mentioned. Also why not give it fighter bay support?
DB Scout = A little less hull mass, a little more shield and jump range OR bring down it's price so it's closer in cost to the Cobra 3
Crusader = Revision entirely into an Alliance counterpart to the Federal Gunship. New unique model. Not a butchered Challenger. Or at the very least just fix the damn hardpoint doors.
iEagle = No changes. It's fine.
Challenger = No changes. It's fine.
Challenger could REALLY, and I do mean REALLY use a class 7 reactor. Trying to feed so many hardpoints off the same reactor as BeefChief, doesn't really work out. ESPECIALLY when trying to mount Guardian weaponry for thargoid hunting, I'd prefer being able to go for an Armored power plant instead of Overcharged, for the better heat efficiency and improved integrity, since I'm going up against corrosive shit with weapons that generate a lot of heat.
Dolphin's problem is not with the jump range, more with the hardpoints and shields.
@@ProcyonDei how would that help? It's either used for passenger missions or exploration.
@@bujtorm you raise a good point. It does basically require overcharged. Mind you almost every combat ship has power capacity issues without serious tweaking
@@BenYork-UBY Noticed. I'd still rather compromise and go for a mixed energy/ballistic build on them instead of cutting my power plant integrity in half. Armored still gives a little boost to power, enough for Efficient beams/rails/plasmas or Rapidfire pulse to work with some multicannons in the mix, and the extra heat efficiency Armored Power Plant provides also comes handy when mounting plasma, beam or rail.
Since I found Dolphin's stupid class 5 luxury cabin could be replaced by a mighty class 5 guardian FSD booster, it becomes one of my favorite exploration ship. Even after some engineering work and module removing, the jump range is ~65ly at most, definitely not in the excellent tier (but quite good when actually using it), and an engineered Dolphin with a class 5 FSD booster is as expensive as a space vibrator made by gold (compared with DBX's similar performance build cost). But this is a vibrator you can drive to visit some really hot black holes...
Ah, the dolphin. A favourite little double-decker bus of diplomacy, that detonates if you deploy hardpoints. But i tried mining in a type 7 using All the hardpoints, so my judgement isn't to be trusted.
The dolphin is adorable. That alone justifies its existence.
DBS can be good tho when configured right. Used to murder condas on silent running with that thing, sniping systems after slogging through the shields. Bit lackning as far as firepower goes, but meh, decent low price bounty hunting ship if you make the effort to set it up for the job.
I actually used the Dolphin for early diamond mining. Good jump range.. and it's got a big enough hold for all the components. I'm sure it's not great.. but it's decently maneuverable and fast.
I had loads of fun in my viper 4 lots of super fun combat and even multipurpose, loved it to death and the looks....
I frequently play Elite with a couple of friends, and wanted to be able to multicrew with them and have them fly fighters while I fly the main ship, just to screw around and have a good time. The Crusader is the cheapest ship that supports SLFs, and thus the Party Boat was born!
I've had a lot of fun with it, and really like the maneuverability. Surprisingly, it's also turned out to be a respectable mining ship, and has paid for itself many times over.
Keelback is way the hell cheaper and supports SLFs. Not much firepower though.
@@brianpmack I don't know how I missed that! I never knew it sorted SLFs.
Who else kinda likes Dropship?
has a lot of weapons + other interesting parts.. but not much else (like the cockpit thou!)
Its a decent miner after ASPx but it has not a lot of cargo
I like it for planetary missions. It's tough enough to survive base defenses, has terrific hardpoints for a large beam and 4 medium dumbfire missile racks (which are spectacular AoE weapons against base defenses and skimmers... Just aim vaguely in their direction, no lock needed... and can work in a pinch against a ship in the restricted maneuvering of a dogfight over a planetary surface) and as a multi-role, you can cram the SRV and DSS in there easily. Fly in, flatten the defenses with AoE, land, drive in srv to scan the target. The flying brick look suits a fire support/troop transport.
I don't. It's awful at everything. I've tried and tried, but it's unutterably shit.
I do. Great for trading missions until you can afford a Krait.
My memory may be failing me but I thought they nerfed skimmer mission into Oblivion because of Vindicotor Jones's amazingly OP Dropship build? Also didn't the Diamondback scout do silent running so well FDev had to redo stealth mechanics?
Yamiks, my dude. Your feelings aren't objective.
Viper MK IV: the best small multi-role, piracy, PVP (yes really). It's not fast but maneuvrable and tanky as hell.
Diamondback Scout: basically an icy running attack helicopter! Try 4 short range blaster railguns.
Dropship: the rank requirement is easily met and what you get is a cheap but tanky mining ship.
Dolphin: GREAT explorer! You trade about 10 ly jump range compared to the DBX for a bigger fuel scoop, speed and luxury cabins.
never said i was objective....where did you get that?!
@@TheYamiks You didn't explicitly but you are giving objective sounding arguments while missing a lot about the ships.
Also it kinda defeats the purpose of these videos. I love your rants and that's why you always get an upvote from me. But imo you should more often clarify that you don't know half of what you are talking about. Like you do when talking about game design, you know?
Dayam
Diamondback Scout is actually a really good choice for certain setups in PVP. You can sit in Silent Running for the entire fight and it has excellent maneuverability and decent gun placement. It doesn't hit hard but it can be an absolute dick move if you want to play that way.
Hey, the Dolphin was a FANTASTIC entry-level passenger ship. WAS. It got me hella rich doing 25mil/hour runs around Sothis/Ceos and Robigo up until they nerfed the mission boards so you could no longer stack passengers by board-flipping. That little dildo-rocket bought me my Federal Corvette and Void Opal mining AspX (which, in turn, bought me my 220m/hr Painite-mining Anaconda). Now I use mine for exploration, since I haven't the heart to scrap the old girl - it handles great and does the job well.
I kinda like the Challenger, it's particular turn rate feels good in VR ;)
Absolutely disagree when it comes to the Imp Eagle. It's actually my favorite combat ship period and I can wreck any large ship with mine. Facing small ships like an Eagle is more challenging, but a wing of CMDR Imp Eagle is nothing to mess with. Especially if they have rails
I have an Imperial Eagle with 2 rails and a beam laser. Great little ship. I don't think Yamiks even plays the same game as most of his followers.
Looks at feed: oh look yamiks made new vid.
Reads title: sees dropship and bad in same sentence
NANI THE F*CK!
Laughs in Rinzler
You should probably put quotations like you "review" series had if you gonna be biased ;P
Dropship if actually very good for mining mostly because it can actually fend off any pirates
Dolphin is one of the best ships for grinding engineering and eng materials. Amazing jump range, can jump while scooping, and can carry everything you ever need for getting those materials(srvs, scoop, afmu, collector limpets, scanners, etc) and can land everywhere.
6:31 Yamicks named his Dolphin the USS Flacid Chode! 😂😂
Dolphin bad? Lol, good one. 😂
Can’t agree on the dolphin. I outfitted one as an explorer, and, frankly, nine optional internal slots, along with the capability for a class 5 fuel scoop make it a more enjoyable small explorer than the DBX, despite losing 7LY in jump range. I get 55LY out of mine with an AFMU, repair limpets, shields AND a 4G SRV hangar. It’s easier to land than the Phantom, and handles great in supercruise. I have a Phantom, DBX, and Dolphin kitted out for exploration, but I really am liking the dolphin.
Oh, and I can charge the FSD while it sits in the fueling zone of any star, because it runs ice cold.
Funny thing I just found out about the Viper MK4 which makes it a monster is... its ramming capacity.
With its additional Hull capacity (and/or shield) and increased weight, ramming into any small and even some medium shield is devastating. You can destroy most small ships' shield by just ramming into them and as Viper MK4 has the shield mass capacity of a medium ship, this leaves it with still an active shield after the impact.
With its ramming capacity, the average survival time of the opponent in any small ship is about 30 secs if you know how to ram ships (which isn't a skill many practice).
The massive cooler that runs across both sides of the Dolphin isn't just for show. It can start jumping while you're still scooping and it won't even sweat.
You use mediocre ships because of... personal challenge? Outside jokes i think it's nice to use something different even if inferior, most people use like the best 5 ships in the game to min-max but when you have all the money, ships and upgrades you need already you try to use something else for a change. I don't like visually the Dolphin, you do little with it min-max wise but it flies very smoothly and for collecting materials on planets it's nice. Sure with Type 6 you can do more but it's not as enjoyable when you dock manually ;)
PS still i agree that they could tune, at least the newer ships they'll release, better for certain roles. I like the idea of variants of the same ships, like explorer/scout for the ASP, even if really not designed for what it could bring to the table gameplay wise with the current balance.
Have you seen dbs in combat ? Lol
Wait the MKIV can have up to 3600 hull, 50% resists and a not too different manuverability as a ViperIII without the obscene pitch rates. Yamiks needs them G5 drives on the MKIV..
I'm confused as to why the challenger is on this list, it's a pretty good alternative to the Chieftain trading a little bit of agility for a higher dps. If you don't cock up your configuration you get a really strong ship to bounty hunt in. What perplexes me is this idea that a ship in the same series of the original is supposed to be better in every way, not everything needs to be an upgrade Yamicks :)
Agreed. It's not a broken ship at all. It's great for hres/cnb pve. It doesn't sacrifice that much agility at all for the more loadout options and armor it gives you. I think Yamicks has just never used it for combat before
It's not like the horribly mis-implemented crusader, which still has disconnected hardpoint doors
I also like the Challenger and don't believe it to be "bad" tier. I fit mine like I fit my Gunship: All Fixed Multicannons. :D
@@Trooper10231 Heh, I am one of those weird people who put rails and plasma launchers on every ship that screams "I am a hull-tank assault ship and you should treat me as such" so pretty much all of the medium ships I own with exception of the fer de lance and python. :p
My challenger is pretty much a heavier Federal assault ship, not as fast, but still stupid quick on the acceleration and I can fling it around to take pot shots at whatever sod is chasing me, or just fire the afterburners and punt anything that is chasing me out of the way. (Hull reinforcement mods ftw) I love the Challenger.
A grade on everything in my viper MK4 is actually pretty good as a bounty hunting ship i think, i mean the rebuy cost is great and i usually dont have a problem out maneuvering other players unless they actually have their ship engineered or know how to fly way better than i can but i actually enjoy it and even though i have a anaconda and bigger ships idk might be just preference but i do enjoy to bring it out of storage every once and a while to blow up some scrubs
YES THE ADDER SURVIVED THIS TIME
This series you're doing is great, hope to see more after you've completed the ships :)
P.S: Maybe engineering, not sure what can be tiered there besides MC ammo types. Could try finding the absolute best modifications and what not I suppose o7
Eh, to hell with rank grinding for ships, I’d rather rank-grind for permits, as that tends to happen faster (or at least you get the Sol permit fairly early on in the ranks. Dunno about the Achenar permit, though).
I really like the dolphin, earned me good cash in the earlier stages when i was fed up with mining with those 3-10m tourist missions to 100-400ly systems +exploration cash.
I own a dolphin. I even bought Horizons to unlock it. Can confirm it is only good for passenger missions.... and even then, you'd be better off just getting a Type 7 and outfitting it with more cabins than your mother's cookie tins.
Also the Dolphin sounds like two cats fucking in a wind storm. But after all that.....
I love meh Dolphin :)
I’ll have you know the dolphin is a master crafted combat vehicle seen by my main man Mars on ghostgiraffe’s channel
You sure you don't mean the Orca?
I use a crusader just because people hate it so much, I like a difficult assignment, corvette gets boring being godmode
I got the dolphin for exploration because its good for landing on planets. I know its not great for combat yet somehow I took out two combat focused ships when I was attacked, I was gagged and probably so we're they. It's pretty manoeuvrable with engineering.
The imperial eagle is amazing for fart sniffing (wake scanning) around stations. Just outfit for max speed + long range scanner.
DBS is nice-handling with better hardpoint placement and jumprange than Viper. Dolphin might has most capacity for a small-landing pad other than Cobra MkIV, is a bit faster than T6 and has better shields than T6. I think it’s a pretty good smuggler, especially with illegal passengers.
Well, I might argue with one thing: with passenger cabin slot unrestricted and two small slots added Dolphin now has as much slots as Phantom and even more than DBX or Asp have, so it's difficult to say that it has too little slots for exploration. I mean, who has enough? Well, actually, Anaconda does, but we just can't compare every explorer with Anaconda, right? I mean, can we? %)
Instead of consuming did you mean conceiving?
This may have been changed since I played more often, but doesn't the Diamondback Scout have the coldest-running systems of all the ships? If that's the case, that means it's a prime choice for silent running combat. Too bad that type of combat got nerfed so hard
I am going to argue for the dolphin actually. Aside from the Cobra 4, which only a few can get, the dolphin is capable of hauling 72T of cargo with a reasonable 22ly jump range, before engineering. This is all on a small ship capable of docking on outposts easily. The T6 in comparison can haul 96T of cargo, but requires a medium pad and only has a 19ly jump range. True, the T6 will cost you 2.1 million less than the dolphin.
For me, this is enough to put the dolphin in the 1 use category. Can't really consider it good, but in this specific capacity, no other ship is better for the job.
Don't touch my Diamondback Scout! It was my first serious combat ship, and i still use it time to time. It's almost as maneuverable as an Eagle, but unlike Eagle can actually survive more than 2 hits.
for me the low turn rate of the driftship is the best with flight assist of you can mess people up in pvp soo bad becouse they think you will newer be able to shoot back.
DBS is my latest ship. I use it for hacking megaships. I like its hardpoints better than the DBX too. Also have Dolphin. Very nice for taking rich idiots on tours. Dropship I have briefly owned in my own Fed rank grind. I think it would be good if it was made to be more the hulltanky competitor for Python. Unspecialize at least one of the military compartments and have more range. That'd be a start, at least.
Of the rest I have no personal experience. I love the Chieftain, but those variants are just bizarre. Why Lakon, whyyyy?
I would agree and disagree with opinion of FDropship. A lot of people said that it's good for mining - it is, but if exclude surviveability ASP Explorer have about the same internals. I personally use Dropship because i just dislike ASP Explorer looks, but it still have a lot of negatives - crazy drift (it makes me want to put A-rated thrusters because of this, on a mining ship), bad shields (normally i wouldn't complain but with drift on this beast i often smash the rocks or mailslot), jump range is shit (i always bring type-6 for transporting mined stuff). But, to be honest, it's main purpose is combat and it's somewhat viable ship for combat. Not a PvE(depends of style), but PvP, where maneurability isn't much of thought and boost is important. Yes, not the fastest boost speed but it can boost about indefinately, and while boosting it also gives that sweet sweet maneurability. In FAon it is really not the best ship, but FAoff and frontal attacks - good. Again, in PvE hull tanking is less effective than in PvP, and there is a lot of hull. Biggest downside for me on this ship is it's bad heat resistance - it overheats while scooping star after about 12 seconds, so lasers isn't really an option. Only third rank requred - it's really easy to obtain, and you start(atleast was) in feds space so missions usually would be taken from feds(that's how i reached third rank without notice when was making money doing trading missions on type-6), and in my opinion it's a better unlock than Imp. Courier (Courier is a good ship, sure, but i prefer more specialized ships to multiroles(personally have only one multirole ship - Adder, which i use for light PvE/planetary missions/Search&Resque from thargoids mostly because i don't like to have bounties on my DBX and it's cheaper to rebuy)). But it's mostly outplayed by it's elder brothers, so it's far from the best.
Another role it's good at and a few people consider it - cheap AX ship, and by cheap i mean even without engineering and unlocking guardians. 2.4k hull without engineering and 3k with a little of it(lvl 2 on hull reinforcements and mil grade composite), low shields is perfect for thargoid combat, and most important 1L 4M weapon slots. As we know all experimental AX (not unlockables) is M sized as minimum, so it gives us maximum firepower. Fit it up with all multicannons if you just want to kill scouts. Or, another bonus of it - because it's 5 slots it makes perfect setup for AX 2 MC, 2MissileL and one flak. With enough skill you can solo cyclops, and that is without any engineering or unlocks. It's not the best, but it's really good and it's cheapest ship for AX duties.
INFIREngine
Wall of fucking text. You might try to think more concisely.
I am surprised the type7 was not here
surprised the type 7 wasn't either here or the dogshit tier.
Impirial eagle is just fun to fly in combat zone it does not have to be good just put railguns on it and have some fun practicing aiming with fixed weapon and turned of flight asist and if you fail it won't cost you to much
DBS has low heat signature and can be used to ambush. It has good hard point placement and one of the best maneuverability profiles for its size, plus better jump range than most small ships. Weak canopy. It's a good small fighter!,
I get to be 'that guy' for a moment:
The Dolphin is the king of small landing pad trade vessels. I know that's a misnomer to people used to trading enough Narcotics or Onionhead in a single transaction to become the space-faring version of Pablo Escobar, BUT... hear me out.
For rare goods trading, it has 88 tons of potential max cargo space, it still fits on a small landing pad so getting 'locked' from an Outpost by an AFK player or especially dopey AI on the medium landing pad is never a concern, the jump range and fuel-scooping possibilities mean it'll go anywhere within the bubble with pretty much no effort, and while a Type-6 *IS* cheaper to outfit (hell, so is a Keelback), the Dolphin flies better than both of them and the T6 is only marginally faster in a straight line.
"why did your parents decide to drink bleach while CONSUMING you?"???
*wheeeeeze*
Yamiks, never change.
Why you can't compare the Viper IV to the Viper III:
Viper III = super low budget Fer-de-Lance = combat ship
Viper IV = super low budget Python = multipurpose ship
Also, the Dolphin is very good as a cute little space taxi, and its flat underside makes it easy to land on planets, plus it outjumps the Hauler by at least 11 Ly.
The Dropship just has the best engine sound. I use it to drop mines on planetary bases.
I would take the Dropship over a Type 7 any day for mining. After all, the Type 7 lacks the ability to equip a seismic charge launcher.
The scout and the dolphin make good, affordable smugglers. The big dollar missions make you jump all over the freaking galaxy. And if you get busted and shot, it does not break the bank.
Any decent pilot can make a marginal ship good. If you couldn’t make any of those ships work that’s on you. Viper 4 is an arguably legitimate PvP ship. But you’re not a big PvPer
the dolphin is useful for wanted tourism. I havent tried it recently, however I could make 20mil an hour using it. However, honestly thats all I used it for. Other then looking kinda pretty it was a poor mans yacht
I’m sorry. One time I ended up taking a bath inside of a Star with my dolphin. I thought I did something wrong, but someone told me it was a glitch, when it happened and I thought I was going to blow up…..nope. It was like I wasn’t even close to it.
I got the DBS and I still use it to this day for exploration. Why? I like it more in principal than practice. I was too cheap to afford a DB explorer. Lost interest in Horizons before I could afford the upgrade. End of story.
I love the Challenger. I think is a pretty good ship. Besides, is cool AF, which is something rare in this game. BUT... I also got a Crussader, and made it fully engineered with all cannons (also engineered) just for some laughs... and ended up loving that nonsensical crap with a spoiler 😂.
I like the load out options on the alliance’s challenger more than the chieftain.
I LOVE your humor Yamiks XD "USS Flacid Chode" XD
I disagree on two parts imperial eagle is nearly the same as the viper mk 3 except on hardpoints and power. The Diamondback Scout has it's place among the engineering hotshot flight assist off pilots who like to take out anacondas with a railgun and make amazing videos doing it.
Never ever ever ever stop making videos please
has link to 1 use vid but yet cannot look at it cuz its private. Logic?
fuuuuuuuuuutureee video.....duh
The dropship makes an excellent core miner. Decent amount of hardpoints, lots of optional slots and can take some hits and still get you home safe.
exxacty.. would be a good miner just needs a better jumprange
Viper 4 is not an upgraded viper 3, it is another ship in the viper family. It's a very good small pirate ship. Better at piracy than Viper3. Your problem is that you wanted it to be better, and so you demand it MUST be or it is bad. WRONG.
Epic little ship for pvp too
@@FrankieBoyThe1NdOnly If you're either really good at sniping or you're using gimbals. PvP it has a bit of a problem for combat with another combat pilot. But piracy, even PvP piracy, it has more than enough to work the shots in and keeps enough cargo space without risking much in survivability to make it worth actually pirating with it. Viper 3 you'd be able to spare a class 2 cargo rack... Viper 4, you can use at least a class 4.
It only "Sucks" if you want it to be a Viper 3. If you want that, just go buy the g-d viper 3.
@@markhackett2302 engineered mk4, using either 2 rails and plasmas or cannons and rails. The beauty of it is its faster than most of the ships your zapping and its hard as fu*ck to hit, if the other person uses gimbals just pop a chaff, mk3 and is better handling but weaker core modules and less hull makes it worse imo
even if you take it as a stand alone ship ... what's the point?! cobra3 is better and cheaper!
@@TheYamiks "cobra3 is better"
Not for combat. Poor shields and effectively the small hardpoints are a washout for combat. Too far back and hidden in a turning fight for almost every combat pilot who will tend to have the enemy go over the canopy rather than under the nose and out of sight. If missiles were a better choice, they'd be a decent idea for the small hardpoints and this may have been what they were supposed to ape from the OG elite. Medium multicanon with thermal and small missile rack with increased mag capacity.
I do really well with cannons, and rail guns on the viper 4
well you want to enter the atmosphere ass first because your primary thrusters are designed to handle extreme heat and can shield the rest of your ship from shock heating.
You should copyright that "Whyyy!! Oh God, whyy!" catchphrase of yours!
Isn't the dolphin good for passenger missions?
new idea for stupidity?? Dolphin ganked squad? I mean you can't kill anything but the hauler might have a fun story to tell of the time a group of Dolphins attacked it....
They could call themselves The Tide Pods
6:05 D2EA- hold my beer
I bought the dolphin for passengers... I recomend saving up and buying a bigger tourist ship....
i love how you prerecorded the rest of the series but the release of the episodes sre on a timer :P
The Dolphin was good until they made it obsolete by allowing passenger cabins on other ships.
Dolphin is fantastic. You’re overlooking its speed, maneuverability, etc
20 Dolphins versus one Thargoid Scout, do it!
1 dolphin is enough to kill a scout and even basilisk
Yamiks please you forget the Empire took what those Federal pigs created with the Eagle and injected the glory and splendor of the Empire into it thus creating the perfection that is the Imperial Eagle... clearly that gives it +100 to all stats. Basque in the glory and splendor of the Empire... basque harder dammit!!
Dolphins can charge a hyperspace jump within full-rate fuel scooping range without gaining heat. C'mon now.
The Dropship is the best multipurpose ship after the Aspie and until the Python, and the DBS is the best small pad combat ship cheaper than a Viper.
Also the Dropship can get one of the most insane hull ratings for a medium ship.
You should really answer all of Bob’s questions...and you should have “said it again” (war).
Most of these ships are good. Soloed my first thargoid interceptor in a DBS (which is also the best silent runner in the game) and the challenger is literally on of the best pvp and thargoid ships out there. Please literally prove me wrong in game. I’ll take on any medium ship you have in my dbs
Remember, if Yamiks thinks something about a ship or a feature in the game, he's definitely right and nobody should be allowed to think differently.