Every Mistake in Episode Six of The Chase
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In May 2024, Riverside Studios screened an original film print of episode six of The Chase, entitled Planet of Decision. As this was an unrestored and unaltered copy, it contained moments that had been digitally altered for DVD and blu-ray release and therefore it provided a rare opportunity to enjoy an episode as broadcast, warts and all. This analysis highlights a couple of small changes that were made for DVD/blu-ray along with lots of quirks which came about due to the challenging production and some interesting prop details. 
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Errors in The Chase! Never, it was a paramount success!
it is nearly indistingishable from the real world!
Bit disappointing to hear some inadvertent errors were corrected for the DVDs. Restoration is one thing, but I feel it does the show a disservice to cut out production errors
Gosh, they removed so much from the DVD/Blu-Ray release!
And yet kept so many other errors in!
That's why I've sourced VHS to dvd transfers of all the proper versions of the episodes.
I hate all this rewriting of history. It's also pointless. No one buying a BluRay of a TV programme made over half a century ago is expecting it to look like a slick 2024 CGI-fest. If they haven't already become accustomed to the technology and style of the era enough to accept any minor shortcomings they aren't going to buy it in the first place.
Apparently all these alterations are required when you are "restoring" episodes. "We do it because we can."
@@sambda See the endless confusion over Spearhead From Space. The changes in every version are like the hokey-cokey...
They probably assumed nobody watching on a small, low-definition, B&W analogue TV would notice this sort of thing. Very interesting though.
Would love to see more videos like this, especially seeing as they remove so many fluffs for the DVDs and Blu-rays. Such a shame really, they're part of the charm.
We need to get Gav an "I love Richard Martin" T-shirt 🤣🤣
I can actually remember watching this when it was first broadcast. I was 9 years old and a Dr Who fanatic who made my parents life a misery by refusing to do anything else at teatime on Saturdays. It was without doubt the most exciting thing I had ever seen and to me completely "real".
Absolutely. I was about 11 when it was shown and it was absolutely riveting.
What a fascinating video - thank you!
Fascinating. And I still love this episode even with these faults.
Need to do videos like this for all the episodes of the Chase!!!
Great idea, thanks for the post!
Another terrific video. It's worth remembering though that none of the makers ever expected anyone to ever see an episode more than once and certainly not on a device which would enable rewind, pause, frame-by-frame analysis etc. The viewers of the time, consciously or otherwise, accepted that (unlike a feature film) they were watching something more akin to a theatre play which just happened to be recorded. They made automatic allowances for imperfections as they would in a playhouse - if they even realized that a mistake had been made before the moment was gone.
Similarly, I know it's easy with hindsight to get angry with the people who wiped videotapes but they operated and came from a world where most entertainment was transient.
Most of the people involved in early TV weren't even from the film world where the possibility of future viewings was obvious (not that many films weren't cavalierly junked as well), they came from the theatre and radio, That's if they were even previously involved in showbusiness at all. A theatre performance is obviously gone for ever once the curtain falls and radio was barely more likely to be recorded and repeated. Add to that the TV actor's contracts of the time which actually forbad re-transmission in many cases and the sole apparent value of a used tape was all in it's ability to be reused. Similarly the function of a children's science fiction adventure series was to fill the schedules, be entertaining for half an hour and then fade to a vague memory, if that.
The thought that we might now value such apparent ephemera would have been discounted as ridiculous at the time.
@johnnhoj6749 I was watching Nigel Plaskitt (Hartley Hare and Unstoffe) on Talking Pictures and he was saying that all the episodes of Pipkins were wiped. We only have them now because he recorded them himself on a Betamax recorder. Very few exist from other sources.
The only one I always notice on viewing is the Dalek saying "totally immobilised" before it's been totally immobilised!
Fantastic!
Nice to see a new video especially about the chase. I always think of it like the clumsy little brother of masterplan
Now do ALL the other Richard Martin episodes! Some of these clunkers were very obvious on the Riverside’s great big projection screen (and having the advantage of Gavin telling you what to watch out for in advance). More of this sort of thing please
A cracking video, slightly taken aback by the fact that they went ahead and removed and changed the actual episodes like that. Curious to know where else they've done this tbh.
Love this one!!
3:00 100% that's the camera going over it's own cable.
“Let us know what you think”
I will literally watch any content you give us!!
But having recently seen the Imperial Dalek at Gunnersbury Park Museum I’d selfishly love to know which it is so I can look up which scenes and shots it was used in 😂
It’s Imperial Dalek One that’s at the museum!
Mike Tucker said it was the one that floats up the staircase in Episode 1 of Remembrance.
I considered going to that Riverside screening lately, but money's tight and trains to London are unforgivably expensive. Sad I missed out, but glad to see this video as a nice replacement!
Very good, Gavin. I might add the wrinkled sky in the same shot you see the flash reflected. Although that might be an intended natural feature :)
Love and Monsters has a couple of slides of real police boxes at the LINDA meeting but they are the uncommon designs.
I always assumed the Logopolis one was a real one but apparently the real one on the Barnet Bypass had been vandalized not long before so they just used the previous TARDIS prop.
@aukondk I think the box was removed rather than vandalised. They were a few weeks too late in the filming.
Very very good
Watching your videos recently and Jesus Christ your knowledge on Daleks makes me so jealous 😂 Hats off to you sir!
Glad you like them!
There's an interesting question there as to what is the right amount of restoration. cleaning things up to make them more polished vs retaining historical accuracy. I think it's a shame we lost the sound of that premature explosion, I'd have left that in if it was down to me. Did they remove the visual of the flash too, or just the sound?
I'm a hardliner now, I think the original should be a legally mandated inclusion - as soon as they blow dust off the can, it's not as they found it.
Star wars is obviously the worst case, but Doctor Who is getting there.
I'm actually not against special editions, but they shouldn't displace the originals. It seems people have trouble drawing the line so I just have strict standards (only problem is nobody is taking my orders, but the principle is there).
And it's so terribly important that I can't tell you whether the flash is edited out 👀 but if it has been, I'm not happy etc
@@handofsutekh I definitely lean more on the side of leaving things in their original state, but small tweaks I'm more okay with, painting out visible wires, clean up like removing dirt and scratches I see as fine, but I do think there is a line for me, once things start getting too spruced I do think it needs to become an optional extra, the star wars situation is really bad and I'm not even a star wars fan, but those films there are massive contributions from skilled craftspeople, genuine artistry that's just been cut from the movies or painted over, and if people want to watch that version that's fine, but the option to watch the original should be there. I am glad that with the doctor who ones that they've done new effects for it's optional, the original is still there. Sometimes the cleanups are a little overzealous, some things get cleaned out of the episodes that are a bit of a loss. there is a degree that I think it would be nice to make the warts-and-all versions available too, but for the most part I feel like the doctor who restoration hits a fairly happy medium.
Personally, I think removing errors that arrived after the original broadcast (so damage to the physical tapes/films; restoring substandard audio to what would have been heard originally; and authentic recreations of original text overlays/captions [as is done for the DW title sequences]) is fine, as is replacement of telecined film sequences for rescans of the original film (wherever possible, as with the Season 19 set or reusing the original versions when reprises were played in from a film recording of the previous episode's cliffhanger).
It’s only when "restoration" work goes beyond that that such efforts should be an optional extra rather than the base default version.
4:46 There is one in "The Doctor, the Witch and the Wardrobe
Hang on, you mean they've been using fake police boxes this whole time? Swindlers, I'm never watching this show again
Is funny that the police never note that the TARDIS is not a real police box since she is not 100% like the real thing.
@@dustin_4501Real police boxes came in a variety of colours and designs, so they may have simply assumed it was one of those
@@dustin_4501 Well they do, but they report it using the phone behind the little door so no further action is ever taken. 😁😁
I generally never notice this kind of stuff
would love to see you going over other episodes of Doctor Who and pointing out every mistake
Very nice - quite a few things there I hadn't noticed - and I've seen that one many times, too. I remember seeing this final ep of 'The Chase' first broadcast, as a kid, on my gran's TV. Was thrilled when Ian grabbed the back of the waistband of Barbara's slacks as Vicky climbs down the cable - and thought we might see Barbara's bum! Ha ha. (Only minor thing you didn't point out was the obvious wrinkling of the drapes of the painted cyclorama cloth behind the Dalek @3:11.)
Oh I’ve missed you guys, that was like a warm hug, bye then!
Lovely video. Keep up the good work guys.
I love this channel. Thanks!
Oh the old Televison Age so many mistakes were made in their productions.
When the cameraman backs into something, does he also groan loudly? It's either here or during The Web Planet
Yes, it’s here.
ooh i like this format. i say that,but everything you guys do is gold
Nice one.
With live drama broadcasts being the norm only a decade earlier, repeats few and far between, VHF TV broadcasts being only 405 line and home video 20 years away I don't suppose anyone in the production crew thought that it was worth remounting a shot because a Dalek case juddered!
(The Chase is one of the slightly more wobbly productions but the sheer scale of it is an impressive thing!)
Actually, home video equipment was available in the early 60's, and it would have been theoretically possible for somebody wealthy enough, to have recorded EVERY episode of Doctor Who from the very beginning! ... Just imagine?
There are many 'goofs' in this one. Given the small size of the jungle set it's a wonder there were not more. As evidenced by the 'Dardis' being visible in almost every shot.
Ep5 has the infamous shot of the camera in the background - but my favourite is the and boom in full sight to the left of the ramp into the cave along with the protruding arm of a floor manager hiding ready to que around the 8 min mark.
@SamLowryDZ-015 I think two people are seen in that shot but I can't be sure as I haven't watched it for six weeks or so.
TOTALLY IMMOBILISED
Knowing what fans are like, I'm pretty certain I'm far from alone in wishing I had the option of watching the original episodes with all their unfixed errors, and well as the fixed versions.
As a fan of DW and film/TV in general, I find these sorts of moments fascinating in anything I'm watching.
that was jolly, thanks
I love the Chase ,it has everything-Robot Doctor Who duplicates who look nothing like the original, Robot Frankenstein's monster and Dracula, Stephen's teddy bear-great stuff.
There was also a error in the battle with the daleks and mechanoids, where one shot of a dalek is mirrored making the gun stick and plunger appear on the wrong sides
@silverdaleks1 There's a similar thing in The Seeds of Death with left handed Ice Warriors, and also a right handed Dalek in Death to the Daleks. (Most Daleks are left handed because that's the side the gun is and you always hold your gun in the dominant hand). 😁
Apparently, everybody spells Mechanoid wrong! ... It's Mechonoid.
First class finicky nitpicking! Just my cup of tea 😁
I really enjoyed this *as always!) Sad not to have made it to London for the showing, but would love it if you did one of thees for every episode ever. Not too much to ask...hmmm...? :))))
Woo new dalek detectives!
from what I remember they filmed the police box at Barnet bypass late 70's early 80's, on the premise the Doctor was just checking his one's dimensional stability or some such. It was in the Barnet Press a top publication :)
No, they had planned to use the Barnet box, but it was destroyed between the recce and the actual filming. They used the previous TARDIS box on a lay-by that’s now under the M25.
This is also the first time we see the newly painted black/silver Dalek with its new MK3 shoulders but with the same shoulder bands & obviously new mesh with slats.
It is because our memories lie to us, the re-edit of Day of the Daleks for example matched my memories of it far more than the original. Many of these errors were because TV at the time in the early 60s was more like a theatre production than a film. They had almost no post-production, so could not fix these errors even if they wanted to.
That was a very interesting video. Given the sort of budget that the BBC allocated to Dr Who and the restrictions on retakes I think that they did very well on the whole. There was certainly better character writing and better interplay between the characters in those days (in my opinion). That may have been necessary due to the confined sets or it may have been the stage mentality of the writers. It would be interesting to see a comparison between the episode budgets of Dr Who and Lost in Space or Star trek.
I'm really interested in the changes made/stuff removed for the DVD/Blu-Ray releases. Is there anywhere I can go to read about them? And where do you get such high quality footage of the unedited stuff? I do like this style of video.
The old Restoration Team website has articles that mention some changes they made for the DVDs.
The Chase seems to be one of the more notable stories that got edited for the DVD/Blu-Ray release. Some of the edits are welcome, like the fix to the opening audio, but I'd prefer if they kept some in, most notably that shot of the Dalek falling over being recorded during the day rather than being edited to match the surrounding scenes.
With the constant breaking of the slats which ran through the tv series why didn't the bbc at some point start using metal slats like the movie variants
Because the BBC are cheapskates? 🤣
But, should they change these things for releases
The mechanoids presumably have the same gelcoat seen on the first film drone Daleks, which, interestingly, aren't all the same blueish silver. Some have the skirt in plain silver Whereas the shoulders have the blue tint and vica verca.
Question, what time is it there
I clicked on this video at 4:19:am: central time in the USA.
It was 10:30
Now its 11:12
yes fascinating
Daleks have time manipulation tech. I wonder then if they could equip themselves with a small degree of premonition, allowing that Dalek to know slightly in advance that it will be immobilized. :)
Video recording technology did not allow for multiple takes, so the whole show was recorded as if it were live, but with maybe two or three recording breaks. I suspect that Dr Who was really pushing the boundaries of what was possible in 1965, so picking up on bloopers is maybe a little unfair.
Interesting. While conceding The Chase is a bit of a mess by anyone's standards, I'd noticed so little of this before. Which begs the question, why take it out of the official releases? Some of us still like to see pioneering television in its warts and all form. We can take it!
the steven wood thing always bothered me, did the mechaniods just not notice, that some mainac with a panda was running around chooping down trees aand sanding them down in the midst of a dalek attack?
Thank you. I'm going to fire off (through the Space-Time Visualiser) an angry letter to Dennis Spooner and Dickie Martin bemoaning the lack of care and attention to detail, then I'll mount a campaign to get rid of Verity Lambert before she does any further damage.
The Mechanoid voices really do need subtitles. Apart from "trapped", when the dalek screams "totally immobilised!" after being caught by two bamboo hoops.
When production values can't match ambition.
Should be the top line of Richard Martin's CV.
Well, you can't get everything right.
Only watched it 27 times?? Amateurs! Come back when you've watched it 200 times like me. 😂😂
The St. John's logo was obviously a glitch in the Chameleon circuit. 😉
Are you going to do the same thing with The Daleks? See if you can spot where the main cast swap positions after a cut.
And people say the Destiny Daleks look tatty...
It really gives me the shits when the RT take out gaffs like the audio at the start or that pyro going off early, taking things too far imo