I shoot portraits and do photography for people and a recent switch from Sony to Nikon for me was an eye opener. I literally just do 3-4 adjustments with the exposure sliders and just export the pictures. The RAW image from the Z8 is just close to perfections straight from camera.
Nikon has what’s been my favorite color wise. I shoot Sony now due to Nikon being so far behind with in camera video options but I’d I could financially do so, I’d have a Nikon Z8
Similar to my journey. I shot with everything, often struggling with colors, until I got Nikon Z6, that was a love at first sight. So easy to boost colors and do minor adjustments and the pictures turn lovely.
I have sony a7r5 and a7iii. I have always loved canon look but didn’t want to sell my lineup. I have been taking amazing photos with my sony and learned to prefer the sony look over others. Green skintones can easily be changed in Post. We have to realize shooting raw allows for pretty much and change to colors you want. Camera doesn’t even matter at that point.
@@oldDan-l1c true, i shot with sony a74 and my friends using fuji XT4 and XT3. The skin tone with fuji is always better and they don't have to spend more time to deal with, I'm so deep in the sony system so switching kinda out of the list. Still get great photos with sony but man some time its really tired to deal with sony skintone
From my limited experience, Capture One Pro largely levels the playing field when it comes to color science between cameras and eliminates any shortcomings with older Sony cameras. I don't know how the magic behind their "ProStandard" color profiles work, but it's what drew me to Capture One starting out with the Sony A7III. Oddly, my wife uses Lightroom, and I use Capture One on the same MacBooks. I thought the Sony A7III had awful sickly looking colors in SOOC JPEGS or Lightroom but importing the RAWS to Capture One instantly fixed the problem. Endless fiddling with presets and sliders can get you close in Lightroom. With the newer generation like the Sony A7IV, it seems to not matter so much if at all. I think Adobe tries to mimic the different manufacturers' idea of color while Capture One doesn't care and just tries to generate their own "Capture One" color.
In the CCD era Canon and Nikon were mediocre. I used Nikon professionally for concerts because they were the only ones making decent APS-C bodies (so I could use only their 85mm F1.8D lens for 90% of the work) and I had a Canon plastic fantastic 1100D as a casual camera. Anyway, fast forward to when Nikon stopped making good enough APS-C cameras (Z50 huge letdown) I immediately switched to Fuji. Now I shoot HEIF in half resolution to the 2nd card slot and in 98% of cases it's good enough for the desk managers. Such a quality of life improvement. The downside is that Fuji still doesn't have a fast 135mm prime, which has become more important in later years as venues more rarely have photo pits. But the Samyang 135mm F2 does the job.
After being fed up with Sonys Skintones (a7s3/a74) after 3years, i tested Fuji, Canon for months…Fuji had the best colours but highlight rolloff, iso and esp. AF Wasnt good enough to commit to it…Canon applies such a strong look to all images that i quickly grew tired of…nikon wasnt competitive before the z8, so i considered them last…and boy was i shocked how good their tones, contrast, skintones and HL-rollof were…to me the only brand that had skintones on the same level as the Fuji yet it was fullframe. They also allow third party Lenses from Tamron… Nikon came superlate to the game but the z8, colourscience esp. in mixed tough light, af, Lenses (1.8 primes, Third party zooms) but won my heart in a big way… I Loved Sonys Lenses and performance, but in suboptimal Light (!) their colours just require so much more work for good skintones imo (i always got there, but it was tedious) Nikon is on another level in this regard, but i wish i could buy a 135 1.8 GM for 1000bucks again… :)
Since you mentioned Nikon feeling „muddy“: -Canon: applies a TON of in camera sharpening and „definition“ that you cant get rid off of you want a smoother/natural look, and the colours tend towards brown a LOT -Sony: Ton of sharpening ooc, but less midtone definition, terrible high iso noise colour shifts -Fuji apsc: amazing files, but breaks apart quickly in low-ish light and high contrast scenes (blown out skintones are real) -Nikon: much (!) less sharpening by default, if you apply it in LR its roughly like Canon: Canon id put at 0sharpness and -5clarity, and nikon 70sharpness and +5clarity to be roughly equal…
Just realized how hard i flooded the comment section here with my newfound Nikon observations (or is it Fanboyism?) but since the Z8 Nikon has absolutely stunned me…first time i didnt have buyers remorse because the results in Photo and Video are simply outstanding imo…cheers!
@@apocryphal_man i know, but they dont really support continuous af at all…only single shot after actually works (2/10 in focus with moving subjects is not good enough for what i do)
it's always fun to play with new gear. I'm a Nikon shooter with some experience in Fuji X system. Personally I love Nikon colors, but I don't think I can pick out different colors of the other systems if those were full frame sensors in raw. I also think the Fuji GFX just has an advantage in dynamic range and color reproduction due to the extra pixel size. My Z9 and Z8 are perfect for me, but I find the more I shoot my ZF, I just love the images I get. I like the direction Nikon is going if they can do something like the ZF moving forward.
When you have a beautifully lit portrait or landscape and are shooting at ISO 64, the 45mp Nikons are stunning. But when you're running around doing street or event photography, I can't tell the difference between my Z8 and Z6. And if it starts getting dark, the noise performance of the 24mp sensor is definitely better (though the Z8 still looks great despite being 45mp)
I use both Canon (R3/5/6) and Nikon (z8/9/6ii). The Sony made sensor in the Nikon cameras is more flexible in post. As far as colors, it depends what I’m shooting, back and forth. Lenses, Nikon. Af surprising now Nikon. Ergonomics, draw. Professional Service, canon. I use Sony sometimes but they just aren’t my cup of tea from ergonomic colors, also don’t like how aggressive their reps are. Never tried Fuji, maybe I’ll pick up a X100vi
Nikon don't bake sharpening in the raw images like Canon. You can use the clarity and sharpening to get the look. Canon bake A LOT of sharpening in the raw, but in a good way, it looks great. With Nikon you have the option, and I prefer that.
Getting away from the modern hybrid, high ISO, high megapixel cameras you should try the classic Nikon D700. The skin tones produced on that camera are magnificent; post editing is so easy! Yes; it's only a 12 mpx camera...
Strange, Nikon looks so red here, but I always liked it more than Canon which was always too red for me. :) Now I shoot Fuji and there is only ASTIA that has some nice goldish skin tones, the rest is just too red. Or maybe it is just me and my OCD. :)
Ely thanks a ton for sharing the files, was super useful and came in need. Been looking for a good video comparison between the R5 and GFX 100s/100 ii mainly for portraits and lifestyle shoots, even better when i got to tweak the RAWs myself. After comparing files of the two it seems Fuji definitely takes the cake on skin tones and overall dynamic range. In editing it seemed I didn't really have to do anything to the Fuji files, with Canon I had to tweak them quite a bit to get the same skin tones. I'd so love to get the GFX 100 ii because of these reasons, but worrying a bit whether the camera could keep up with autofocus and the pace of some faster paced shoots. So hard to say which one is the correct purchase 🤔
Just switched from Canon Aps-c to Fuji X because of the lens lineup. Canon has just plastic feeling lenses for Ef-s... and Aps-c is enough for me as an amateur
@@stanleygabrel1045 I made absolutely the right decision. If you think about leaving Canon Aps-c Fuji is an option or you go fullframe if you can afford it and the size and weight does not matter. Btw I absolutely love the Fuji colors 😍
@@DirkDittmar Thanks for your quick reply, appreciated it. I have an old Sony RX100 v and will probably switch to Fuji. I am retiring in few months and need a toy to play with.
I'm a professional Fuji wedding shooter who used to be with Sony . While I was scared to start my gigs with APSC coming from full frame, the colors , and the image that fuji produces makes it so fun to edit and shoot with.
Good info! I shoot with R5/R6II and GFX50SII and had a hard time to "sync" up the colors initially. I found GFX's colors to be more saturated and reddish than Canon. And that's why I prefer second shooters with Canon gear 😀
I'm a part time professional Fuji Nikon Sony Canon Photos that need least editing .FUJI Sony Nikon Canon Saturation ..most Nikon Canon Sony Fuji Best prints Fuji Sony/Nikon..draw Canon Sharpness. All equal really
Why does every camera comparison video I see use Z8 images at ISO 100 when the base ISO is 64? All other cameras are shot at their base ISO which produces the best quality, color and dynamic range.
Great stuff as always, love the goofy hat :) I shoot on GFX 100s and Canon RF5 - same preference for color, I think the gfx line has the best colors I've ever seen on a camera. Canon because of skin tones and the overall pleasing look. Sony looks too artificial - like you said - colors and oversharpened/crunchy look. Nikon - I only used a D700 for some time long ago and didn't like the yellowish skin tones at all but I'm sure they improved a lot - I've seen some incredible photos taken with Nikon for sure. I also think Canon's 5D line has the best colors out of all of their models, even better than the new R cameras. All the best!
really both are great. R5 is slightly less saturated, but that's probably just due to the lower megapixel on the R6 and me not making separate presets for the two.
Best color from digital sensor: *leica m9, canon 5D classic, and Fuji xpro1* This isn’t opinion, these are the only cameras you can shoot jpeg and be completely _captivated_
I shoot portraits and do photography for people and a recent switch from Sony to Nikon for me was an eye opener. I literally just do 3-4 adjustments with the exposure sliders and just export the pictures. The RAW image from the Z8 is just close to perfections straight from camera.
Nikon has what’s been my favorite color wise. I shoot Sony now due to Nikon being so far behind with in camera video options but I’d I could financially do so, I’d have a Nikon Z8
Ironic since Sony makes Nikon's sensors
@@holdmyown32 sensor has nothing to do with color science
Similar to my journey. I shot with everything, often struggling with colors, until I got Nikon Z6, that was a love at first sight. So easy to boost colors and do minor adjustments and the pictures turn lovely.
I have sony a7r5 and a7iii. I have always loved canon look but didn’t want to sell my lineup. I have been taking amazing photos with my sony and learned to prefer the sony look over others. Green skintones can easily be changed in Post. We have to realize shooting raw allows for pretty much and change to colors you want. Camera doesn’t even matter at that point.
green skin is absolutely not that simple to correct in post. It's even more difficult to produce "pleasing" tones when starting from a bad spot
@@oldDan-l1c true, i shot with sony a74 and my friends using fuji XT4 and XT3. The skin tone with fuji is always better and they don't have to spend more time to deal with, I'm so deep in the sony system so switching kinda out of the list. Still get great photos with sony but man some time its really tired to deal with sony skintone
From my limited experience, Capture One Pro largely levels the playing field when it comes to color science between cameras and eliminates any shortcomings with older Sony cameras. I don't know how the magic behind their "ProStandard" color profiles work, but it's what drew me to Capture One starting out with the Sony A7III. Oddly, my wife uses Lightroom, and I use Capture One on the same MacBooks. I thought the Sony A7III had awful sickly looking colors in SOOC JPEGS or Lightroom but importing the RAWS to Capture One instantly fixed the problem. Endless fiddling with presets and sliders can get you close in Lightroom. With the newer generation like the Sony A7IV, it seems to not matter so much if at all.
I think Adobe tries to mimic the different manufacturers' idea of color while Capture One doesn't care and just tries to generate their own "Capture One" color.
In the CCD era Canon and Nikon were mediocre. I used Nikon professionally for concerts because they were the only ones making decent APS-C bodies (so I could use only their 85mm F1.8D lens for 90% of the work) and I had a Canon plastic fantastic 1100D as a casual camera. Anyway, fast forward to when Nikon stopped making good enough APS-C cameras (Z50 huge letdown) I immediately switched to Fuji. Now I shoot HEIF in half resolution to the 2nd card slot and in 98% of cases it's good enough for the desk managers. Such a quality of life improvement. The downside is that Fuji still doesn't have a fast 135mm prime, which has become more important in later years as venues more rarely have photo pits. But the Samyang 135mm F2 does the job.
After being fed up with Sonys Skintones (a7s3/a74) after 3years, i tested Fuji, Canon for months…Fuji had the best colours but highlight rolloff, iso and esp. AF Wasnt good enough to commit to it…Canon applies such a strong look to all images that i quickly grew tired of…nikon wasnt competitive before the z8, so i considered them last…and boy was i shocked how good their tones, contrast, skintones and HL-rollof were…to me the only brand that had skintones on the same level as the Fuji yet it was fullframe. They also allow third party Lenses from Tamron…
Nikon came superlate to the game but the z8, colourscience esp. in mixed tough light, af, Lenses (1.8 primes, Third party zooms) but won my heart in a big way…
I Loved Sonys Lenses and performance, but in suboptimal Light (!) their colours just require so much more work for good skintones imo (i always got there, but it was tedious)
Nikon is on another level in this regard, but i wish i could buy a 135 1.8 GM for 1000bucks again… :)
Since you mentioned Nikon feeling „muddy“:
-Canon: applies a TON of in camera sharpening and „definition“ that you cant get rid off of you want a smoother/natural look, and the colours tend towards brown a LOT
-Sony: Ton of sharpening ooc, but less midtone definition, terrible high iso noise colour shifts
-Fuji apsc: amazing files, but breaks apart quickly in low-ish light and high contrast scenes (blown out skintones are real)
-Nikon: much (!) less sharpening by default, if you apply it in LR its roughly like Canon: Canon id put at 0sharpness and -5clarity, and nikon 70sharpness and +5clarity to be roughly equal…
Just realized how hard i flooded the comment section here with my newfound Nikon observations (or is it Fanboyism?) but since the Z8 Nikon has absolutely stunned me…first time i didnt have buyers remorse because the results in Photo and Video are simply outstanding imo…cheers!
You can adapt emount lenses to z mount with almost perfect functionality.
@@apocryphal_man i know, but they dont really support continuous af at all…only single shot after actually works (2/10 in focus with moving subjects is not good enough for what i do)
@@m0nztam0nk fwiw I use a z8 with the 135gm and it operates just about flawlessly even with 3d tracking. I'm running the new megadap etz21 pro
it's always fun to play with new gear. I'm a Nikon shooter with some experience in Fuji X system. Personally I love Nikon colors, but I don't think I can pick out different colors of the other systems if those were full frame sensors in raw. I also think the Fuji GFX just has an advantage in dynamic range and color reproduction due to the extra pixel size. My Z9 and Z8 are perfect for me, but I find the more I shoot my ZF, I just love the images I get. I like the direction Nikon is going if they can do something like the ZF moving forward.
You have Zf, z8 and Z9 and you like the Zf best?
@@humanfirst11 yup. It's the perfect size for everyday usage for me
When you have a beautifully lit portrait or landscape and are shooting at ISO 64, the 45mp Nikons are stunning. But when you're running around doing street or event photography, I can't tell the difference between my Z8 and Z6. And if it starts getting dark, the noise performance of the 24mp sensor is definitely better (though the Z8 still looks great despite being 45mp)
I use both Canon (R3/5/6) and Nikon (z8/9/6ii). The Sony made sensor in the Nikon cameras is more flexible in post. As far as colors, it depends what I’m shooting, back and forth. Lenses, Nikon. Af surprising now Nikon. Ergonomics, draw. Professional Service, canon. I use Sony sometimes but they just aren’t my cup of tea from ergonomic colors, also don’t like how aggressive their reps are. Never tried Fuji, maybe I’ll pick up a X100vi
Nikon don't bake sharpening in the raw images like Canon. You can use the clarity and sharpening to get the look. Canon bake A LOT of sharpening in the raw, but in a good way, it looks great. With Nikon you have the option, and I prefer that.
Getting away from the modern hybrid, high ISO, high megapixel cameras you should try the classic Nikon D700. The skin tones produced on that camera are magnificent; post editing is so easy! Yes; it's only a 12 mpx camera...
Strange, Nikon looks so red here, but I always liked it more than Canon which was always too red for me. :)
Now I shoot Fuji and there is only ASTIA that has some nice goldish skin tones, the rest is just too red. Or maybe it is just me and my OCD. :)
Ely thanks a ton for sharing the files, was super useful and came in need. Been looking for a good video comparison between the R5 and GFX 100s/100 ii mainly for portraits and lifestyle shoots, even better when i got to tweak the RAWs myself. After comparing files of the two it seems Fuji definitely takes the cake on skin tones and overall dynamic range. In editing it seemed I didn't really have to do anything to the Fuji files, with Canon I had to tweak them quite a bit to get the same skin tones. I'd so love to get the GFX 100 ii because of these reasons, but worrying a bit whether the camera could keep up with autofocus and the pace of some faster paced shoots. So hard to say which one is the correct purchase 🤔
Thanks. Canon AF is much better for sure, but the IQ out of the Fuji is next level.
Thank you very much for sharing! After so many years, nikon still produces images with lime green tint :(
Just switched from Canon Aps-c to Fuji X because of the lens lineup. Canon has just plastic feeling lenses for Ef-s... and Aps-c is enough for me as an amateur
How do you like Fuji now?
@@stanleygabrel1045 I made absolutely the right decision. If you think about leaving Canon Aps-c Fuji is an option or you go fullframe if you can afford it and the size and weight does not matter. Btw I absolutely love the Fuji colors 😍
@@DirkDittmar Thanks for your quick reply, appreciated it. I have an old Sony RX100 v and will probably switch to Fuji. I am retiring in few months and need a toy to play with.
which camera did you bought?
@@GamingSunDBZ I've bought a X-T3 from Mpb (used obviously).
Define ‘best’. It’s what you want or need from your camera.
Nikon out of camera always wins..
Who has the best colours?
Hasselblad, of course.
Which one do u use? Would love to try one someday.
I'm a professional Fuji wedding shooter who used to be with Sony . While I was scared to start my gigs with APSC coming from full frame, the colors , and the image that fuji produces makes it so fun to edit and shoot with.
What lens do you use in low light?
Good info! I shoot with R5/R6II and GFX50SII and had a hard time to "sync" up the colors initially. I found GFX's colors to be more saturated and reddish than Canon. And that's why I prefer second shooters with Canon gear 😀
Hows the R5/R6II? have you experienced any problems with the Canon RF systems like freezing, overheating, shut-downs etc?
I'm a part time professional
Fuji
Nikon
Sony
Canon
Photos that need least editing
.FUJI
Sony
Nikon
Canon
Saturation ..most
Nikon
Canon
Sony
Fuji
Best prints
Fuji
Sony/Nikon..draw
Canon
Sharpness.
All equal really
Can tell from your title 'part time'
Why does every camera comparison video I see use Z8 images at ISO 100 when the base ISO is 64? All other cameras are shot at their base ISO which produces the best quality, color and dynamic range.
I was just trying to keep all the settings, the same so the exposures would be on point.
I don’t think non-Nikon users are aware of iso 64 lol you’re right there is 1/3 stop of dynamic range lost using 100 instead of 64, so it’s not major.
@@ThePhotographerGuy I understand, but it's kind of like comparing a Ferrari and a family sedan, and driving them at the same speed to keep it even 😜
@@kevincassar8022 😂
@@kevincassar8022Too far. Really making too much of this. ツ
Great stuff as always, love the goofy hat :) I shoot on GFX 100s and Canon RF5 - same preference for color, I think the gfx line has the best colors I've ever seen on a camera. Canon because of skin tones and the overall pleasing look. Sony looks too artificial - like you said - colors and oversharpened/crunchy look. Nikon - I only used a D700 for some time long ago and didn't like the yellowish skin tones at all but I'm sure they improved a lot - I've seen some incredible photos taken with Nikon for sure.
I also think Canon's 5D line has the best colors out of all of their models, even better than the new R cameras.
All the best!
My new Elk Hunting hat:) Thanks for sharing. I loved some of my Nikon images back with the D750.
Shame the lumix S line is not in the test, they deliver tremendous colours
That would be fun.
@@ThePhotographerGuy Whatever float your boat
Agreed.
And TOP video too.
FUJI/CANON for the WIN! If I could find a way to mount my RF 28-70 on my GFX 50s I would switch to fuji full-time!!
That’s what dreams are made of:)
Between the r6 and the r5 which do you like the files of better?
really both are great. R5 is slightly less saturated, but that's probably just due to the lower megapixel on the R6 and me not making separate presets for the two.
Sir what about r3 canon colours
@@mohandass3442 r3 are super green. They’re a lot more like the Eos R colors
Nikon😊
Best color from digital sensor: *leica m9, canon 5D classic, and Fuji xpro1*
This isn’t opinion, these are the only cameras you can shoot jpeg and be completely _captivated_
That definitely sounds like an opinion.
@@oleyb123 ok it’s an opinion but the correct opinion lol jk
Very good test!!✨
Thanks!
Absolutely helpful thank you.
I’m wondering and can’t find the info anywhere. Can RF lens be adopted to GFX body?
You can't adopt mirrorless lens to another mirroless camera except Sony E to Nikon Z.
Negative
@@hayepa1there is an AF adapter for Fuji FX lenses to Nikon Z body too
RF is a dead end in many ways...
Colors aside, Canon looks the sharpest...
Canon bake A LOT of sharpening in raws.
@@amermeleitor hmm, wasn't aware of that...
@@amermeleitor searched a bit but couldnt find, any resource for the sharpening in raw thing?
GFX provia ~
Use a colour checker passport and the question is moot!
Its not moot though is it?
Fuji
Leica and Hasselblad
Loved my Q2 images and still need to try a Hasselblad.
shooted both. Its near the same quality. The colors are bit better on hasselblad. Bit its not a real big difference.
Who has the best color isn't on your list. IMHO
1/ Leica
2/ Lumix
3/ Canon
4/ Fuji
5/ Nikon
6/ Sony
Never tried a Lumix, have to check one out. Love Leica. Had a couple of Q2s.
Canon... thks.. and nikon d850 is great... fuji is beautiful... sony.. yucks haha greenish
SONY, because my buddy Ely convinced me to switch to Sony, then jumped ship to Canon. 😂
Haha. RIP Nikon😂
Did you leave Sony for Canon?
I jump around a lot. Canon,Sony,Nikon,Sony,canon,Fuji. In that order with A little Leica in there.
Man, you need to blink your eyes more frequently
😂😂
And the answer is .......LEICA
I do love Leica colors.
leica sucks at colors, especially with M11 series
@@ThomazMartinez like you suck as a human being probably