Disney’s Wish Could've Been 2D!
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Did you know that Disney’s Wish could have been animated in 2D? Director Chris Buck explained in The Art of Wish that people immediately asked whether the film would be hand-drawn, and his response was that it certainly could have been, and they did consider it. However, they ultimately decided to create the film using computer animation, and today I want to explore why.
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You can HEAR the disappointment, the pain, and confusion in Isaac’s voice.
Yep.
I think the best homage to the company was Once Upon a Studio.
THAT was the better homage. It just needed better sketch artists for the inbetweens.
I cried watching that ❤
And also every single animatic made by youtubers about this movie.
MOST definitely the better homage
Definitely!
At least it had watercolor backgrounds. Being fully 2D, it wouldn't have fixed the film's other issues. But at least it would feel a little less generic and more like an homage to Disney.
Yeah. The story wasn't that great. The songs weren't too great.
I don’t know; I’ve seen clips of Rosas, and it doesn’t look at all like watercolor backgrounds. It just looks like a kingdom town with dull colors. I didn’t get how the villagers were cheering for the “wonders” that Rosas had to offer.
First of all, Chris Buck and Jennifer Lee's mindsets for why it wasn't 2D animated is one of the many reasons why those two NEED to be fired from Disney, ASAP.
But also, i hate the idea that the 2D animation represents "Living in the past" there is still so much you can do with 2D animation even up to today, and still so much potential that medium has to offer. Even if they couldn't do it, why not find a middle ground and go a similar route that Spider-verse and The Last Wish did with its animation styles?
Whatever, personally, i think Wish shouldve been 2D animated, or at least, should've had a middle ground, A La Puss in Boots: the Last Wish, and the Spider-verse movies/films. Also, Issac, will you be doing videos on some of the scrapped concepts of the film? Such as the Villain Couple and the Starboy (plus his rumored romance with Asha)?
BINGO, Last Wish and Spider-Verse PROVED Style wins all. Disney is stuck in the WRONG past.
@peterrealar2.067 wrong those movies used style to mask cheap animation. This used techniques to blend the two. Gets some artistic taste before making inane comments both of you.
@@Taydar BULLCRAP. Wish was just a lame texture on top of their typical CG models. Spider-Verse was a LOVE LETTER to 2D animation techniques and even inspired the damn industry. Who's the inane one here? I'm an animation major, you punk.
@@Taydar I'd like you try and take FOUR YEARS to animate a THRONG of Spider-People chasing after Miles. That's ART while also making a film that makes a SPLASH PAGE for every frame. That's not cheap animation. That's LABOR INTENSIVE animation.
@@peterrealar2.067 The problem is that Princess and the Frog didn't do amazing in the box-office while Tangled and Frozen were big success. Giving Disney a reason to believe that the general public likes 3d more.
I think Wish had so much potential, what could have been a wonderful 100 anniversary. Wasted because they were afraid to change their style, they played it safe.
2D Will always be a classic method. So MANY timeless classics done in that way! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I think when it comes to Wish's animation they probably wanted to combine the two types of animation that Disney was known for doing and good at
2D and 3D animation
That is right. I personally thought they did a good job.
Then why didn't they market the film like that? ☹️
@@kentslocum Probably some disgruntled fool.
It’s amazing how studios in Europe and Japan have no issue with making 2D animated films and their audience still really enjoy them (especially the latter).
100%. People don't see animated movies because they're certain medium. If a studio puts out and supports a great story with compelling characters, people will enjoy it no matter if its CG or hand drawn.
I think it's best it wasn't 2D. People would blame its poor reception and performance on it being hand drawn and put another nail in the traditional animation coffin
The closest to a legitimate 2D moment in Wish was where Asha was showing a drawing on her sketchbook to King Magnifico and then you see the drawing come to life when she was flipping the pages.
I’m going to edit my comment as I go along with what I want to say. But truthfully, I think too many people are diminishing how good the animation in Wish looked. I was really impressed with how the film looked like a CGI watercolor storybook/painting.
I’d say it was a better decision to have the film be a hybrid animation in favor of purely hand drawn or CGI animation. I’m glad they didn’t back out into having Wish just be 3D just because “they couldn’t make it work for their other movies.” And it’s for the 100th anniversary of Disney. Combining both helps honor all of Disney’s years. Which includes its 2d and 3d projects.
I disagree with the characters not fitting into the rest of the world. Because the whole screen has a watercolor paper texture that’s on the background, foreground, and even the characters that gave it a consistent appearance.
Also the whole thing of “watercolor backgrounds” is in part false, because it’s mostly made up of the same stylized CGI like the characters. You can see this in moments when characters touch something in the background, or when there’s a different camera angle, and the same consistency of placement is shown in the scene. It’s apparently just really convincing as 2d. (What I’m trying to say is that they didn’t just put a flat image of a watercolor painting and called it a day) If anything I would say Wish’s animation looks like a highly detailed 2d animation. Even the foreground is the same.
I’d say that the line art actually helped give each character more of a 2d look apart from the texture I mentioned above. Wrinkles in their faces were unique depending on the character, and it looked like it was drawn too. I can give examples from the sparkly outlining of Star. To Asha’s eyebrow wrinkles. The dimples on some of the characters. Sabino’s wrinkles to match his age, the outlines that are around each character, the markings of fur for the animals, and a lot more.
The colors were also really vibrant. A lot more than other parts of the internet would allow it to be due to compression issues. Which brings me to why a lot of people thought the animation wasn’t good. They apparently forgot compression is a thing, and assumed that’s what the film looked like. When there are quite literally videos of Wish’s trailers in 4k Ultra HD revealing a lot more detail than other sources allow it to have. And Wish looks amazing on a huge TV on Disney plus. But the Dolby Vision version looks good as well. That’s how I knew about all of the details I’ve mentioned above. But I do blame Disney for not giving a better resolution online themselves, but people seemed to know what compression was before I did. So I think some people should have known better by seeing when it was obviously a compressed image.
I actually understand and can agree with what the crew said about limitations. It was said in this video they didn’t have all the resources they would have needed. Production for Wish started back in 2018. I’d say they’d need way more time to make a hand drawn frame by frame film, than a stylized CGI animation. Because they couldn’t just release Wish whenever. It had to be on 2023 for the 100th anniversary.
And the camera angle limit is fair, because the backgrounds in lots of the classic movies are obviously flat, and don’t even rotate most of the time. Because they are drawn, and have no depth. Unless you really wanted to animate a detailed background, frame by frame, and lose more time than you already are on the frames for the characters and other objects.
Two of the examples of rotating angles in Beauty and the Beast and Tarzan have confirmation that they used some CGI for the trees, and the ballroom scene, in order for the camera angles to be easily done with added depth.
Overall I don’t think a lot of the criticism over the animation is very fair. And that’s why I wanted to comment rather than let this go by. Like I said, I’ll probably edit my comment later to clarify more things, but I’m done for now.
You are correct.
I can’t be the only person so disappointed Wish wasn’t a 2D movie. I really enjoy 3D like Tangled which is one of my favorite Disney movies ever, and other ones like Moana, Raya and Encanto, but I’m sick of Disney reusing the same artstyle for almost every stinking movie. One of the things I always loved about the Renaissance movies was each movie had its own style, but they were also inspired from previous movies produced by Walt himself. Maybe it’s just me but Wish’s animation felt more like an unfinished project than the final product. And I’m sick of this self told lie forced on by different studios 2D animation is stupid, childish and outdated. It breaks my heart the only thing that’s keeping 2D animation alive is basically anime and that’s probably why Hayao Miyazaki keeps coming back to make more movies. I don’t hate 3D animation, but its so sad that the main reason why studios refuse to go back to handdrawn animation is because 3D is cheaper and makes more money and kids don’t care about art, all they do is watch whatever’s on screen. Disney, please go back to your roots before its too late
Don't forget Cartoon Saloon.
@tylerfish2701 and these were indie studios that uses 2D animation. I think it's time that we support indie animation.
@@gerawallstar3487 Yes, definitely, absolutely.
Lee's comments on the camera movement "issues" are especially infuriating when you look at films like "Roger Rabbit." A Live Action movie where the camera movement is constant and fluid and at no point feels restricted for the sake of the hand drawn cartoon characters. The only limit with 2D animation is the artist's imagination. No doubt If Richard Williams heard Lee's comments, he would've laughed and mocked her words endlessly.
It was very disheartening when I listened to Mark Henn's post-retirement interview with the Bancroft brothers. On top of him being dissatisfied with the little work he gets, he also mentioned how so often he and Eric Goldberg would bring in ideas and find ways to incorporate 2D into every project (including Wish) only to be denied and disappointed.
I hope Disney animation finds its way again as it did in the 80s. But I struggle to have faith in the idea more and more as time goes by.
I hope so, too. But in order to make it happen, we really need to convince the company to return to hand drawn and I may have just the story to do it.
This is an important subject to talk about.
The LAST Disney Film we had so far (not counting the Disney DTV Sequels, Once Upon a Studio or any Disney Channel Animated Series) was the Princess and The Frog 15 Years earlier.
Last? We still have Walt Disney Animation movies happening
@@lexramstudios1386 I meant Disney Films being in 2D Animation, not the CGI Films
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Winnie the Pooh was the last 2D animated Disney movie
@@lexramstudios1386 I thought for sure it was The Princess and The Frog.
I must be WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYY behind.
@@orangeslash1667 Really?
being born in 1994 I'm proud to say I grew up in a world where hand drawn animation was still the dominant medium and I think wish being hand drawn would have improved the film in some ways
I mean, it'll only improve things animation-wise, but the film would have still been bad.
@@carlnwakakwa2390if they went with what they did for the final film. If they went with the original concept, it would’ve done AMAZINGLY and Tumblr, AO3, Wattpad and all other fan fiction platforms would’ve ate the movie up. I’m saying this because most of the fandom for this movie is for the concept art. CONCEPT ART and not the legitimate film. If Disney actually stopped and thought about what would make the most money, it would’ve been the original concept, and 2d animation.
@@carlnwakakwa2390Yeah, we'd need the original script.
@@AwesomeYena ok
I was born in '97. I'm glad I grew up during the time when Disney was using hand-drawn films even through they were on the verge of collapsing. Atlantis, The Emperors New Groove, Tarzan and even modern films i.e. The Princess and The Frog were great films that had gorgeous 2D animation. Disney NEEDS to revisit this medium.
I was born in '97. I'm glad I grew up during the time when Disney was using hand-drawn films even through they were on the verge of collapsing. Atlantis, The Emperors New Groove, Tarzan and even modern films i.e. The Princess and The Frog were great films that had gorgeous 2D animation. Disney NEEDS to revisit this medium.
Honestly, I'm glad they didn't. If it was unchanged in any other aspect, other than being in 2D, the public and critics would still hate it, and Disney would just use it as yet another argument why they will never make another 2D movie
I completely agree. I hope the studio has learned that making a film with the Disney name in 3D isn't enough to create a successful film.
In summary, they fired the artists who can do it and the higher ups don't want to do it. The artist who have the skills are considered unnecessary and the higher ups think that what they have are better.
In other words, they don't like their past and try to stay away from it as far as they can.
Wish is a movie that was essentially forced out of them. They are forced into something they don't want: go back to the old Disney.
"Style that was uniquely Disney" - I consider Wish's style to be uniquely Disney, but Disney as it is now, not the Disney that you know in the past.
I WISHED it was 2D. It would have been a very good addition to this being Disney's 100th Anniversary celebration movie.
The problem is that Princess and the Frog didn't do amazing in the box-office while Tangled and Frozen were big success. Giving Disney a reason to believe that the general public likes 3d more.
The fact that Once Upon A Studio achieved the perfect blending and celebration of all the different art styles from every Disney movie in less than 10 minutes compared to Wish not achieving at all with over an hour to do so is still so baffling to me.
They achieved the greatest they wanted and achieved nothing at all with 2 totally separate animation projects both meant for the same celebration
Jennifer Lee: 2D has too limitations in terms of camera movements.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit and Renaissance movies: *Am I a joke to you?*
Who Framed Roger Rabbit? is such a good point! They were working with so many more restrictions than 3D and they made it work.
She's clearly never seen the work of James Baxter
@@IsaacCarlson And it's still a masterpiece after 36 years :D
That’s kinda the whole reason I didn’t watch the movie, the style looked like a half finished product in my eyes. Felt like they were still working on it honestly
Isaac, I want to take the opportunity to thank you for sharing your takes in such an optimistic and kind way while not holding back with the very valid points of criticism and what ifs. It keeps my hopes up while also addressing my concerns rather than try to hide them.
I - and a lot of other people with me I'd wager - have been very disappointed by a lot of choices in direction made by Disney leadership in recent years. Growing up with such gorgeous works of art that is Disney 2D animation - which I to this day can find new charming details in - and then see it so disrespectfully dismissed is nothing short of heartbreaking. I truly hope Disney can take after the style experimentation trailblaze set by movies like Spiderverse and the Last Wish because that style combined with classic Disney magic ought to be an absolutely mindblowing wonder.
I don't dislike Wish even if I am convicned it could have been so much more (personally I enjoyed the art book as much if not more than the movie). I don't dislike 3D Disney, I have equal respect for different forms of art. But it's saddening to see them being treated with such vastly different levels of care and respect by the company that ought to understand the pros and cons of different art forms better than most.
Anyway, that's my wall of text, thanks for your hard work and take care!
There are some movies/shows that work in 3D or 2D, I think Wish could've been a great film had they made it hand drawn through computer animation to show best of both worlds of Disney animation. What they've done through Wish had tarnished the legacy that Walt Disney had made.
This is was rhe team EXPERIMENTING a new style to them. It's a remarkable style they experimented with and achieved. It sucks that their attempt to try something new gets harassed by the animation community. Imagine trying a style you liked and tried to work with and you get backlash for it. I feel for these animators who are proud of what they did and got credited for
Correct
You can experiment all you want, but your audience is still free to have their own opinion and give their honest feedback to you. And if that feedback's overall very negative, well, you're doing something wrong and need to go back to the drawing board. Simple.
@isabellegoegebuer2777 yes, and when that happens you LEARN from your past and make improvements. That's what trying new things does
I will always be baffled by how they didn't replace the motion blur with smears. Sure yeah you can have the slower more delicate moments be with no smears and no motion blur, but the fast snappy parts absolutely suffer without it. Having the smears be hand drawn would have also contributed significantly to the 2D 3D blend that the movie was going for.
It's honestly pretty sad that the studio is like this now. Hopefully change can come soon, so the potential for future projects isn't as stifled as with Wish. I can feel your frustration with these excuses that were given. I hate the idea that the Disney Animated Canon will be stuck only making movies that look a very, very specific way. We know they can do better.
At least we got the short once upon a studio
So the animators wanted to push the boundaries and do something unique and experimental, but once again the studio shut them down. Tis a shame.😔
Something "unique" and "experimental" doesn't make them enough money, lol.
"2d anIMaTiON is LiMIteD"
The real irony there is that Wish flopped so hard that it lost to The Boy and the Heron, a 2D animated film.
And Leo on Netflix.
@@dwaynewood2424 That too.
Whether it's 2D or 3D or basically any other animation style, with that story and the songs itself, it wouldn't have make it any better 🤷
Me neither.
The fact that a talking lizard movie being better than Wish is quite shocking.
If they could accomplish a movie through the Who Framed Roger Rabbit Movie, then they could've accomplished greatness through Wish.
I miss the old animated Disney 😭 Disney just isn’t the same anymore as much as I loved wish
You and me both. A Disney animation studio without hand drawn is enough to make Walt Disney turn in his grave.
It’s soulless now the studio just wants to push out live action movies that add nothing
They should have been more honest and said. We would need to hire a bunch of 2d artists instead of using people already on the payroll.
*sarcasm* Oh, but that would cost money! Money that giga corporation Disney ABSOLUTELY can't miss! Haha, you're silly. *sarcasm*
@@isabellegoegebuer2777 They could be greedy and honest about it.
Animation Directors:oh 2d is limiting when it comes to camera moving.
All legendary 2d animators: Am I a joke to you?
I haven't seen wish yet
It sucks
I wonder if the reason why they didn’t go with 2D is because they have to pay those artists more. To be able to draw 2D animation takes a lot of patience and work.
So sad that the Disney company couldnt be bothered to hire people to make a 2d animated movie.
Oh well, at least we have an actual suscessor to Walt's legacy in Tangled.
The TV show Sofia the First also has that same stylized CGI animation similar to Paperman
They say 2d is outdated. Hollywood has always looked down on 2d animation.
Meanwhile. European and Asian market is thriving making 2d animation and they’re expanding and experimenting more and more on it every year.
Lull in the sea is my favourite slice of life that was made in the late 2010s and it’s gorgeous throughout while telling an interesting and fun story.
2020s fruits basket. Too.
If wish is suppose to represent there future then Disney is doomed to fail
I wonder if Jennifer lee's comment on hand drawn animation, considering she's the head of Walt Disney animation, is similar to what Zack Synder commented on Batman's no kill rule. " You're making your God inrelevent." All i know is THIS IS THE SAME COMMENT!
BATMAN DOESN'T KILL AND I WOULD KNOW!
While I still haven't seen Wish yet, I saw the movie as a great way to reignite animation for Disney. However, even with so much potential, the movie failed capture a new style for itself. As it was said you could have blended 2D and 3D to make a beautiful movie, but the art style that Tangled started is now the default. I'm sad to see this as so many companies tried to capture Disney's spirit in the past. Now the company has lost that, and new blood has taken that old feel to heart.
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First animated movie to use cells in its medium and the first one to be made in America.
I wish Wish was in 2D
The problem is that Princess and the Frog didn't do amazing in the box-office while Tangled and Frozen were big success. Giving Disney a reason to believe that the general public likes 3d more.
JealousLuck0, an animator on reddit, explained, in relation to news that filmmakers considered making Wish a 2D movie, why studios prefer 3D even with a sizable audience asking and asking for 2D. It was a long post I couldn't quote here, but the most interesting paragraphs were these-
"the reason why you'll see more 3D films these days has nothing to do with talent or easiness... it's because due to the nature of the programs used, you can simultaneously work on modeling the character, animating the character, designing their clothes, framing the shots, modeling the set... all at the exact same time. You can hot-swap these things in and out, whenever you need, as they're worked on. You might work on a shot in the morning, and the character's got hair by the evening. That's kinda exaggerating a bit but you get what I mean. You can move cameras on the fly, change lighting on the fly, and every artist works on something at the exact same time."
"so my point here is this: 3D animation became defacto because it was faster to produce, but that is no longer the case. I believe the issue here is that meddling by committee decision is something they expect to be able to do for 3D films and don't like 2D ones because they can't go in and change things as they focus test and cannot commit to anything. They hate that creatives are, in the end, the decisionmakers, and must be for the film to be made. The inability to tweak and tweak and change up until a week before release annoys them. They hate gambling and want as much control over its profit as humanly possible.... and 2D just doesn't allow it."
But knowing that they didn't want audiences to think it was 2D, I remember in 2014 asking some students if they've seen The Lion King, and they said "No, that looks old!" I can only imagine this outlook is more prevalent a decade later. The animation test looks beautiful! It's a shame that there are these films that people think just needed more time, only for it to be revealed that these movies had great ideas that were squashed later in production.
“2D has limitations on camera movements” IS THE STUPIDEST thing i’ve ever heard. If anything its MORE free to do whatever you want with angles, movements, squash and stretch, etc. PLUS THE RENAISSANCE ERA OF DISNEY PROVES DYNAMICS MORESO THAN ALOT OF THE 3D MOVIES.
While I don't think the movies needed was some of the original concepts like others have been constantly trying to hammer in I'm glad you able to tell this stuff as nonbieased as possible, it really sounded like your opinion on it comes from a place of respect for these older movies, and not trying to criticize the style of the time👊
I’ve never actually seen the _Wish_ yet, but I might give it a watch at some point despite the flaws it has.
Short answer:because 3D makes more money
Love your videos Isaac!❤❤❤❤
You forgot some of the parts in the movie Beauty and the Beast and the Cave of Wonders and the Magic Carpet in the movie Aladdin.
I blame the greedy corporations for this problem 😐
Thank you for posting the video.
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First cycrinized sound cartoon.
The truth of it is Disney just doesn’t know how to do hand drawn animation anymore, and they don’t want to admit that.
8:36 Are you f(BOING!) kidding me, Disney? That concept was awesome, why it was discarted?
It appears that some of Disney's worst decisions were made in 2012 and 2013 (buying Lucasfilm, dismantling their 2D animation department, etc.). The last time a Disney original production resonated with me was Wreck-It Ralph, which was coincidentally released in 2012. But I wouldn't categorize it as part of Disney's 2012 decisions, because it was primarily produced during the prior years. I'm just pointing out how original Disney content has seemingly lost all its magic following 2012. And Disney proceeded to make terrible decision after terrible decision, without even once learning from their mistakes from 2012 onward.
Star does look 2D but They’re 2d. I think the film looks beautiful. 2:52 Don’t Forget the Ballroom in Beauty and The Beast is completely Hand drawn. 8:37 THIS LOOKS BEAUTIFUL!💜😍😍😍 10:39 My Eyeballs are pleased.💜💜💜💜 Also The Scene was Inspired by Tony hawk.
Sounds like 2D animation and 3D animation wanna hang out but they're not allowed.
This movie is a trainwreck. There is so much that could have been done had it not been for the layoffs.
Everything I’ve ever heard of about this movie just makes me so glad I never watched it. Bad art style, bad plot, just bad everything.
Watch it it's goid. Everyone is wrong. It's genuinely the most misunderstood movie of all time. Remember Disney animation can't make a bad film, everyone else just can't make goid ones.
Wish should've been like the original concept with the brodway style and in full 2d.
Hey Issac I couldn’t help but notice that your video on the Mufasa trailer is now gone which a part of me is kinda glad that it is. I mean I myself am pretty iffy on the movie but still all the negativity and hypocrisy going on within the Disney fandom is something that I’m just tired of….
I accidentally uploaded that video in 480p so I took it down for that reason. I didn't love the video so I just left it down!
I'm honestly interested in seeing Mufasa
@@lexramstudios1386 That’s good to hear. I mean I didn’t love The Lion King remake but I didn’t hate it either and Mufasa at least so far looks like it wants to tell a good story and it and the remake I feel is very much set in their own separate universe and not meant to be cannon with the original Lion King.
@@carolinedisalvatore9768 the animals are now shown to be expressive in the movie and apparently Mufasa is both a prequel and a sequel
good thing that i have personally a passion musical hand drawn alan menken project for disney animation, inspired by a japanese disney ride, at least hopefully the goals dont go in vain
the scences you mentioned rocked
Hey Issac, can you do a video on the fan theory that Rapunzel is Anna and Elsa's cousin?
Any reason why you haven't covered The Fox and the Hound?
This is one of the reasons why *Wish* feels so disrespectful to Walt's legacy, they had the opportunity to make the feeling of a older Disney film, but instead it feels just like any other animated musical they have made in recent years.
So corporate.
And it is one of the reasons why I hate modern Disney so much.
I’m pretty sure the main motivator for and against what this film could have become was $$$. *Play ABBA here*
The current problem with Disney Animation is not executive meddling. It is just bad creative leadership.
The leadership of the creative team is bad at their jobs, and this shows.
Songs Lik there's gotta be something better then this are from characters who live 💩 holes or only abusive relationships but barley have concept of more mutual loving relationships .
But the Island in wish is prosperous. Beautiful diverse. So the song I make this wish to had so much then all that. Really makes everyone seemed spoiled. He's the villain because he wouldn't grant every wish.
What about different having incompatible wishes what wishes for someones 💀 the jini wouldn't grant every wish. . Should he put everyone in their own simulation. And I mean he could remove all consequences of wishes using the same magic. Then nothing has meaning. In both achieving and consequence. No quest nore consequence.
. A lot of the wishes didn't need magic 🪄. Being a leader being a Taylor. Being the Best.
Given that roughly 25% of Disney's repetoire is 3D, making "Wish" fully 2D ignores a big part of Disney's legacy. I'd prefer if it was 2D with 3D elements or vice versa.
Man bad business move and story too
i like the movie alot but honestly fo a centenial celbration it as way under my expectations. i was hoping for something like the once upon a studio short.
Money, and they have driven off all the 2D Masters.... That hard to understand?
Netflix Arcane proves that Paper man could have worked.
they could have use blender 2d 3d animation like the peanut movie or Garfield movie
People now: “Oh Wish sucks”
10-20 years or so later: “Oh Wish is so underrated why doesn’t it have more praise and attention?!”
Atlantis, Treasure Planet and Brother Bear to Wish: “First time?”
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That's definitely going to happen in 10-20 years
Exactly my thoughts! Whatever the matter is with THESE people?
It does suck, on multiple levels. If you get enjoynment out of it good for you though @@danielsvetlichny5721
Treasure Planet definitely isn't perfect, it's very dated compared to most Disney movies, a lot of the story, characters and humour are boring and/or abnoxious, especially that robot character. One of the only things that were solid was the father-son esc. relationship between the protagonist and the alien pirate dude (forgot their names). But yeah it was also just horribly advertised, but it has it's charms. "Wish" is just souless, with terrible music, forgettable characters, and unfunny humour, and feels like AI was heavily involved in the writing
@@woodencat5990 It. Is. Not. And ENOUGH with the whole “Oh AI wrote Wish” nonsense because it’s not true!
Disney just needs to try experimenting with their films again, not play it safe as usual...
Just Like Netflix Christmas 🎄 2019 movie Klaus. 💕 is a great example as well.
Interesting take Isaac.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Mutant mayhem, Puss in Boits and Spiderverse do NOT blend the aesthetics of 2D animation into CG. All they do is use aftereffects and bright colours to distract from their cheap animation.
Wish looks like a watercolour painting. You can see light bounce back through the characters, you can see the texture of the paper. For gods sake they built a whole new animation system.
I'm sorry but Wish was beautiful and if one can't see that then they have no business talking about animation.
You can have the most gorgeous animation in the world and that will still not save a shitty story/movie. The saying goes you can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig.
@tracyblackfox152 but it doesn't have a shitty story. It actually has a wonderful story. People need to stop going in with preconceptions of what they think and instead enjoy it for what it is. If you do you will see it's the best film of 2023.
@@Taydar nowhere did I specifically say Wish was a shitty story. I saw it and thought it was super cute and the animation was nice, but that was about it. Yet another bland cut and paste quirky girl. Everyone either looks like Elsa or the girl from Encanto...even grandpa was literally the rock troll king from Frozen. Was nowhere near being the best film in the least bit for 2023, but if that's what gets your goochies there's nothing wrong with that. Like I said, I do think it was super cute and I am glad to have it in my collection.
@tracyblackfox152 Asha is not another bland quirky girl. She's not even quirky. And let's look at all the films of 2023.
Mario - baby movie
Spiderverse - nausea inducing stupidity
Turtles - hideously ugly and just references other films
Puss in Boots - 1 good part only
Trolls - trash
Migration- forgettable
The boy and heron - well animated waste of time
The only film one could argue is better last year is Elemental.
I would go for Tranditional Animation!
As an animator myself, I have always appreciated the style of Wish and the studios attempt at experimentation. That i feel was the point of the style, and they achieved it so well. It sucks that us in the animation community expect certain proejcts to meet their high expectations to the levels of movies like Puss and Boots or Spiderverse. When other studios were just having fun trying something new and they get backlashed for it
Exactly. Here is my advice when it comes to animated films and series, don't set your expectations too high or too low or even don't have expectations at all.
They did it to save money short and simple
Wow! Great video Isaac. I think Jennifer Lee needs to be replaced
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The entire film making obnoxious callbacks with a boring plot is way worse than being “stuck in the past” I miss 2D animation. Hand it over. I honestly think it’s so much prettier -especially than WISH-
I hope 2D comes back, it could save Disney from failure because that’s what the people want
There’s The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes movie coming soon in fall 2024 and it’s entirely in 2D animation
@@Sean-132 yessss
I had a lot of Hope for wish but when I saw the film it didn't really deliver it's not a bad film though
The vast majority of the animation industry is filled with cg purist that are literally offended at the idea of having anything 2d in their film. And besides that, they no time to 2d animate anything.
what the freak the slove they can spend those years improve themselves instead they wasted their time make 100th anniversary movie flop
Once Upon a studio was a better homage to Disney! Do You agree Isaac? Hearth please ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I do.
To that it was supposed to be released with the movie only to just dump it on ABC and Disney Plus like they were self-aware that the movie had a lot of problems
As an artist who likes to plaint 3D will NEVER surpass 2D. The 3D visuals may be impressive but 2D didn’t have the luxury of copy paste for background elements or people. My favorite Disney film visually has always been Sleeping beauty, take any forest shot in that film and just look at all the details in the trees and think that someone had to go in my a tiny brush and add that in. 3D will never be an artistic masterpiece as 2D ever was.
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I loved it
I love what you do
@disneyanimation please listennnn