This is probably one of Elon's all-time best interviews. I think he was happy to speak to someone who had a very obvious understanding of his projects. The fact he came back and showed you pictures on his phone. Amazing. This did not even feel like an interview, it felt more like two friends running into each other catching up.
It must be refreshing for him to give an interview to someone truly interested in the nuts and bolts of his passion, not just another journalist asking mundane questions. Additionally he knows this is a great way to reach out to people that could one day work in the industry and push mankind's progress.
I love Elons face when he realizes Tim is actually an interviewer who knows the basic tech. He seems so reliefed and happy. I don't think big media will ever get an Elon Musk who forgets the time and keeps on nerding out with you. That's something special.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Sure, but Tim was asking him about an *obscure* type of rockets NEVER EVER actually launched (precisely for a "research video" that may have had just on the very basics). -> Elon got more relaxed when Tim told him that his part would be "at the end" of it (meaning Elon did not had to explain stuff to neither Tim or the audience).
Seriously, when it comes to interviews like this, raw footage and extreme nerdery is 100% what we love to see. Shaky cam? Bad audio? Wonky framing? Don't care. The Full Elon Brain Dump was worth it. Thanks for posting the whole video.
To be fair... it was only 1 answer. -> Elon kept extending his line over and over... then they finished with a double hand shake (professionally). AFTER the "interview" (when normally cameras are shutdown), they reminded him to take out the mic (he did, then he started a normal talk with Tim "off the record" ...)
That's what I love; when you have someone truly dedicated to the pursuit of the science and their goals, they can talk endlessly. I am sure that Tim could have kept Elon there for the next 24 hours just by giving little nudges of questions...
-Irrelevant Chanel -very unsuccessful businessman (look up elon musk he never got revenue from his projects) Why on earth people are interested in this sht... I have no idea
you can just TELL Elon is loving this interview. No one talks to Elon like a person. especially someone with so many common interests and ability to understand Elon so well. AMAZING job Tim
Getting to talk to someone who will be a major part of human history is a pretty rare experience. Let alone one where that historical figure is fully engaged in the conversation. Life is beautiful.
He must answer so many dumb questions as part of PR for the masses, so when someone like this comes around and can truly appreciate his work it must be a lovely experience. So nice to see
I personally think it is probably annoying AF for him that in 3/4 of his interviews people just repeat word for word what he has said in previous interviews and then try to play it off like they're actually smart.
Couldn't agree more. The deepest thing our journalist here managed to pry from Musk was about the importance of all members of the organization knowing what the big picture and mission was and how the machine works in principle in order to avoid partial optimization. This is the most important thing in this whole video. Everything else is based on that. What gets you to Mars isn't that rocket. It's the organization.
The way you can see Elon loved this interview is the fact that he talked for another 5 minutes about header tanks after you said "Thanks for your time", awesome job Tim!
I genuinely teared up because of how beautiful this interview was. Elon was like a child not wanting to go, like he finally found someone who understands him and shares his passion. keep it up!
@@pseudonayme7717 maybe some day Elon asks Tim if he wants a job. 😎👍 ... But it would have to be something that SpaceX currently is missing. Otherwise it would not make sense. Maybe a side kick for detailed background information at rocket launch coverages. And they would not need to pause for 45 minutes until the next firing is done. Tim would easily fill that time with information and enthusiasm - and with a live Q&A session with questions from the stream.
I'm sure he hates such presentations, but he also knows it's the only way to garner support for what he is doing, and the crowd wants to see him of course.
Yea i know Elon even still came back to talk more. I could tell Tims time was up though because people started flooding into the shot, then that super hot lady stopped the conversation forcefully. Thats so messed up but his time is super important.
Love to see Elon's enthusiasm over meeting a "reporter" that actually understands what he is talking about. He couldn't get away before his assistant said the time was up. Thank you for bringing this to us Tim
Tim asks him (good) questions on Twitter all the time, so Elon knew who he was talking to. It's so weird to see them talk like they're just friends, I love it.
The way he talks to you versus the way he talks when addressing a crowd is so much different. As soon as he took your question during the event, he suddenly opened up and seemed much happier to answer. The same happens here, he's so open and easier to talk to, less stuttering and much quicker on the details. I love to see that, you obviously has his respect and he knows he doesn't have to dumb down his answers. Great to see.
How much of Elon's awkwardness is because he's translating himself for a general audience? He's much more fluent in the nerdy details. Tim, I'm so glad you got to bring that out. Keep being amazing!
@@brian554xx I saw that too - Elon wasn't pausing every few words to think about how much sense the listener will make of what he is saying, instead, he was able to just go on and on. So who's going to be calling Tim for him to interview: Next1; Bezos Next2; Branson Next3; ? :D
I love how even after they officially ended the interview musk stayed there to keep talking because he just enjoyed the casual talk, what an awesome person
I honestly think they should have Tim interview Elon at the end of every starship update. Legit it seems Elon loves talking to him since he understands it all which is awesome because we get great questions and great answers.
@@user-jp1qt8ut3s lucky???. do you know how many sleepless hours he worked to get to this position. success in a capitalist country comes with hardworking and creativity, luck has nothing to do with it.
@@lostintime8651 A quack who has launched rockets into space, landed and reused them, catalyzed the proliferation of electric cars, and done numerous other things that benefit humanity. You look useless by comparison.
People can be extremely closed-minded though. If I could show you God is real, that the Bible is true, that Jesus really did rise from the dead, that life didn't evolve but was created about 10,000 years ago, or that CO2 is not pollution - most people would close their mind and not even want to know.
Thats like all of science lol. Everytime you do an experiment, you kinda hope you predicted the answear wrong, since that means there is some new hidden (physics biology etc.) behind it
@@newsgetsold You're right on one thing....CO2 is not airpollution. It is a greenhouse gas and when dissolved in water, it acidified the water. So, not direct pollution like NOx or PM, but a trouble maker non the less.
It has been the best interview with Elon musk I have seen in years. Not only because you have touched on themes that have motivated him, but you have had the good fortune to catch him at a time where he was well, lively and energetic. great job
personzorz All right. I saw your reply on another comment and now I know what your deal is. Seeing things black and white without searching past what you hear from the mainstream media. Professionally, his reply was the wrong thing to do. However, the context is far more nuanced. On one end, the British diver was being condescending, suggesting Elon to have sexual intercourses with his submarine. On the other, Elon replied with an insult mostly used in South Africa (growing up in Pretoria) that can easily be misinterpreted by the rest of the world. Of course, corporate media being paid to fail us and thriving on controversy, this issue was twisted to make Elon Musk look bad and blown way out of proportion.
I love that Elon is such a nerd that he just gets carried away talking about his cool new project and all his future plans even when he's probably supposed to be done with the interview and moving on to other things.
@@raphaelserra7573 Or, you know, loving your work. He probably enjoys talking about how it works and how cool it is with someone actually curious more than he does talking about numbers with shareholders, investors, government officials, etc or talking to a crowd
A interviewer who A. Knows what he’s talking about, B. Knows what Elon is talking about, and C. Let’s Elon talk? No wonder he appreciated it and wanted to talk more.
"One of the biggest traps for smart engineers is optimizing a thing that shouldn't exist" 4:55 So true, speaking from a software engineer's perspective.
@@themidnightspark9431 Yeah I can imagine, I guess when you're talking about complicated systems with many different parts that work together (especially with control systems/software being a huge part of it) it all starts blending together. Have heard quite a few different industries adopting the agile approach to all sorts of product development.
That was the best Elon Musk interview I have seen - he just looked like he enjoyed nerding out with you, I enjoyed that more than I enjoyed his presentation tbh. Also thank you for not over editing it, that made it something special.
That was the single most enjoyable Elon Musk interview I've ever seen. It was the first time in a decade I regret dropping out of aerospace engineering to pursue something else. Thanks so much for the full video. Goosebumps.
Goddamn I've never seen Elon give answers* that fluently and fast. So amazing to see how he reacts to a person that actually knows their stuff. He seems super introverted in most other interviews
I know this feeling when you are searching for the right words so that non technical people can actually understand your concept on the one hand and the feeling when you can just use the word that comes to your mind on the other hand...
I guess it's partly because in this interview they talked about technical/engineering topics he thinks about every day. In other interviews it's often stuff that asks about himself or his opinion on stuff that he doesn't think as much about. Maybe even topics that he has to take care not to get sued/shitstormed for the wrong answer, which makes you think about what you say twice.
This is one of the best interviews I've seen with Elon and another person. Clearly he feels extremely comfortable on his turf. The first 30 seconds of seeing the interviewers t-shirt he knows that this person has spent at least some time thinking about how to capture his attention that is at least catered to him. Then to follow up on that, this guy actually actually knows his stuff before asking questions. The sheer enthusiasm being shared between 2 people is wonderful. Such an insightful side to Elon I have not seen before. Thank you for this lovely uncut version of Elon and yourself. Just wonderful.
Seriously. That was one of the best interviews I have ever seen with Elon Musk. Completely relaxed, on the same page and both of you just totally geeking out. Elon should talk to you more!
I must disagree, sir! :) Is simply the best interview anyone's done with Elon. He's truly involved in a one-on-one conversation, free to talk tech terms, and forgets the camera is there.
Most commercial media guys put him off with dumb questions and oversimplified understanding of what's what to which Elon can't answer without being distracted from his passion.
@@android12921 To be fair, the commercial media are mainly for the average viewer, with little investment with Elon Musk's doing. We who watches Tim Dot on the other hand can fully nerd around with his stuff!
"If a design is taking too long, design is wrong!" "Product errors reflect organizational errors." "You should take the approach that the constraints given to you are guaranteed to be some degree wrong, so always question them regardless the credibility of the person handing them to you." "One of the biggest traps for smart engineers is, optimizing a thing that shouldn't exist." "When you can properly frame the question, the answer is comparatively easy." - Elon Musk
When working with or for imbeciles though, questionning constraints regardless of the credibility of the person handing them to you is how you get singled out as an insubordinate employee, or someone who cannot work in teams, and you get kicked out or prevented from going higher.
"When you can properly frame the question, the answer is comparatively easy." Another perspective (is worth 80 IQ points), "A problem well stated is a problem half solved."
the question then becomes, did you actually do it? If so, good job! If not, doesn't matter, just try it again. You'll get there, this random internet stranger knows it for sure!
Hi Tim, Why don't you send a "Full Flow" shirt to ELon as a thank you for the interview. You might see him wearing it in some other interviews. He did say he liked it.
I love how Elon thinks faster then he can talk. Also. He basicly acts like a normal guy who's a nerd about space... I like how he never puts on airs or acts more then he is.
Actually, what he does is try to explain it in such a way that you can understand it. He possibly understand much more than he explains, just try to do the simplest for us. He is a "crack"
People who are busy making themselves useful don't have time to think about how important they are. They are too busy trying to think of something else useful to do :)
Yes, he quickly didn't think of Tim as an interviewer, but a fellow enthusiast to converse with. Led to Elon extending the conversation and breaking news exclusive about the redesign of the nosecone/header tanks. Priceless.
Me neither, absolutely amazing interview. I joked when Elon when off stage that he was off to give Tim an exclusive.... Imagine my reaction when this video came up in my notifications..... :D
9:52 "If somebody could show that we're wrong, that would be great" - Elon Musk, 2019, Can you imagine the world we would live in if more organizations, people and governments lived by that mantra? No wonder SpaceX is doing so well
@@TheGreatSteve No question. Thats how any employer works. My secret had to die with me at my last workplace because I couldn't convince my employer...My new employer on the other hand offered more and understood.
As you said Tim "I think he enjoyed it too." He was obviously enjoying the conversation and did not seem to be in a hurry to end the interview. I think he felt like he was holding YOU up.
One of these days Tim Dodd is going to get Elon Musk for a day as they tour Starship and possibly take it for a trip into space together. I hope Tim will be ready when that happens.
@Mark Mitchell You never know. I read about an alien that was speeding up space rocketry development to get the rocket built he needed to get home... ;)
@Mark Mitchell And who has the metal in his head? Is the quiet little town Bioca Chica? (I don't know that film, you got me curious. Watching it right now) Done. 1) A tinfoil hat might have helped. 2) Yuk! He kissed an alien. 3) Alion Musk is not like that. He's kind.
This is the most important interview of Elon Musk ever produced. You gave him the freedom and confidence in your understanding of what he said to unleash his full, delighted participation. It's an incredible accomplishment, far above that achieved by all the high paid professionals of conventional media. Thanks for doing this!
You can praise talking to a RUclipsr, but if there is one thing Elon Musk has absolutely zero of, it is humility. The man thinks his own farts are made out of gaseous gold.
Elon is such a genuinely good dude and as brilliant as he seems. Seriously, you could tell he enjoyed the hell out of this interview. I love that he pulled out his phone and showed off pictures like a regular person haha
@@mah-ky4pi They chose to work for a ridiculously over ambitious self-confessed workaholic and are free to leave anytime. It isn't healthy to work 60+ hours a week but it's also not unusual in certain professions.
@@GonzoTehGreat what this dude even doing here... highly recommend to not waste time on such people. if he still doesn't get that 60h+ a week is a minimum to chase your career/dreams.
Well the shuttle would have been a far better glider with an aerospike for one. The biggest thing it really has going for it is low drag when not in use. That's why you see them on air launched missiles. They don't slow the plane nearly as much as a bell nozzle. A hypersonic air launched system designed for propulsive landing could be a great use case for a spike. It would need low drag when mounted on the parent aircraft, as well as efficiency in vacuum, all while not blowing up at sea level. Hypersonic air launch is the next big milestone, as rockets truly suck up to Mach 5.
This was weird. it's like "You've not used aerospike, you're smart one, so there's a reason. Period. I don't hold my breath. Just a little". - "Maybe that reason is wrong", hurray, but then he says something about second stage not needing one... come on, that thing is going to work in a vacuum and on landing, and in current design it already has 3 engines for that and 3 for that, wouldn't it be better to have just 3 engines? I can understand that this is still risky, because of thermal issues, because firing into the supersonic airstream could be problematic or whatever. And that reward could be not THAT great, but that wasn't what they actually said.
Okay. This is the best interview with Elon Musk that I've ever seen and I've seen them all. No common question/repeated answer lulls. Just genuine enthusiasm and geeking out to the point I'm over here looking stuff up. Really great work!
I'm like 95% sure the interview is only that short because of publicists, if that was Elon and Tim's choice we'd have a 7 hour long interview that probably ends with them drunk at a bar discussing some ridiculous idea.
Same. I paused the video twice to look up exactly what they were talking about. (For example aerospikes, I had no idea that was a thing. Keep in mind I don't know much about rockets, just a huge fan of Elon and everything he's trying to do.)
@@SomethingSeemsOff Tim will be releasing an entire video on aerospikes tomorrow, its been in the works for a while now. Trust me Tim was probably over the moon that he got to get Elon's take on them. A massive cherry on top for the video I'm guessing. If I were Tim I would totally be pinching myself right about now.
Musk is genuine. Wouldn't be surprised if the interviewer gets a job somewhere in his companies. He doesn't care about your degree. Maybe like 5% he does.
yea thats why the JRE interview was so amazing... he clearly is more excited to have casual conversational interviews than to sit down with some professional TV shmuck whos job is just to read the words on a card.
I love the Elon interviews where you can tell they've gone over whatever the scheduled time was but he's so into it that he just keeps jumping to other points and ramping it back up.
DerekSP Musk is really the one who kept the interview trailing on. Love it! His enthusiasm, curiosity, passion and fantastic nerdy commitment are inspiring. Tim was of course eating it all up, he was with Musk the whole way. Bravo!
The ending was actually amazing he just chilled and talked with you about rockets and actually showed u pictures on his phone from the inside, that's so awesome!:)
I love how when asked about aerospike he wanted to make sure that Tim would explain us what an aerospike is, it really gives the idea that he wants people to understand. Great man
Reminds me of the days of lightning progress in c.1950 military aviation. When designing the British Canberra bomber, Colin Chapman said "Simplificate, and then add lightness." Elon would have hired him. (Designed from the outset for ultra-high altitudes, a version of this plane is still in use by NASA.) I think Kelly Johnson liked this phrase.
"Asking the right questions is key." And you asked the right questions! This is the most natural conversation ever seen with Elon. Interviews in studios/onstage just don't show the real Elon. We can see the many bits that bounce around in his mind - and reach 99% combustion efficiency!
Great point! It's pointless to have an all-around journalist talk to someone whose brain is just nonstop ideas about a singular thing. You need someone who really understands what the subject is, and then the conversation is very fruitful.
Wow! This was probably the best Elon Musk interview I've seen. You could see that he was really happy once you showed you understood what he was saying. He started explaining things more technically, his speaking got smoother. He's such an amazing guy.
@@jimJim- Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Talking to crowds, he often uses more vague and general terms, and trips over his words more. I can't relate to how much he knows, but I can definitely relate to being difficult to talk when people can't see what's in your mental vision.
When Elon talks to "Regular" people, like on _60 Minutes_ or at a press conference, he has to "dumb down" everything, and it messes up his rhythm and thought process. This is my first time seeing him talk to someone more towards his level. Watching you both finishing each other's sentences is truly joyous!
@@xnrv I think what he meant was same level of knowledge on the subject, Elon probably knows more just because he built rockets but everyday astronaut atleast understands what he is talking about unlike people who haven't studied the topic for awhile.
@@xnrv He didn't say AT his level, only "more towards his level" there is a big difference. Tim is close enough to grasp the concepts, follow along and ask informed questions, which was clearly a welcomed change of pace for Elon. I personally would love to see a longer interview with these two.
@@rogerheuckeroth7456 None of them have a chance against Trump just FYI, also Trump has actually been a good president for space, nuclear energy, the economy, and avoiding wars.
@@rogerheuckeroth7456 Ya not going to happen, just like it didnt happen last last time. Today's governments "world wide including Americas" is so full of pay to play politicians and criminal corruption, it would take A LOT to ever impeach a president. Bush should of been impeached over very serious crimes about half a dozen times but it didnt happen. Obama should of probably been impeached for attacking Libya and involvement in the assassination of Qaddafi, and giving weapons to "basically terrorists" in Syria, but didnt happen. Every president for 40 years "except Trump" started a new unconstitutional war in his first 2 years in office for corrupt reasons. That is just how low the bar is today.....
To me, the best and most fascinating/valuable part of the interview was Elon's discussion around engineering organizational decision process management: fundamental, common systemic errors in the design and build process and especially the super-important relationship between product and organizational units that produce that product; how to do it right and what to avoid. WOW!!!!! That is truly the fundamental Spacex sauce of success.
if you're interested to learn more, google "conway's law". he was basically giving the "i read the wiki page on this a couple months ago" explanation of it.
r vanden Yes, I agree! Now that’s how to run an engineering firm or any company for that matter! Also thinking “out of the box” and not assuming that past ways are best or that they are necessarily invalid, either. You have to run the numbers - like with the steel thing. Ceramic tiles weigh a lot! Steel is stronger too, especially at the extremes of temperature.
I was beaming when I saw this... It is not everyday the internet gives you something that you just love... this type of access would have been impossible without it. I am so happy for Tim... he has earned this moment.
This applies to so many things big and small. To give some credit, often the engineers aren't even in a position to decide whether it exists or not: they're told to work a system and so they do it. They have no ownership of the larger scope. And people who do manage the larger scope don't always see all the minutiae of what is gong on in the optimizations of those little things. Worked for a shipbuilder, spent many many months (over years) working on a major unit as part of a system only to find that on the next generation being worked on, they had implemented a new tech that completely omitted the need for the unit entirely. So we were spending probably millions of dollars and years of man-hours in refining a system that was already obsolete and a better solution was already designed. But the people dictating the use of the system and having us implement it were so far removed from the process they just said "well we need an X" and may not have even known we had an X2 elsewhere. I wouldn't have even known if I hadn't just happened to be loaned to a completely different group for a month and come across it. Then at the small scale I'll design some little widget and spend a lot of time trying to fit two springs into a tight space, before realizing I can just have one spring do both jobs. I tried to optimize that spring and it was superfluous. Saved a decent amount of money. So yes, total optimization is deleting as much as possible.
As an electronic control systems engineer, I second that statement. I can't tell you how many times I've removed entire circuits from a system because of the unwanted feedback it caused to a process or the duplication of effort they sometimes represented. Too many design engineers have never had to work on the mess they generate.
That's the best interview I've seen with Elon. Usually he's trying to think through everything before he says it. Here, it looks like he's talking to a friend
I think because it’s purely design philosophy and technical stuff that’s happening right now. He’s not trying to sell it or dumb it down...just answering the questions he’s given knowing that it’ll be explained by someone else!
It seemed like Elon didn't want the interview to end. It's like a little.kid talking about his favorite toys. I feel reassured our future is in his hands.
Learnings on this interview: 1.) How to make things go fast - If the design is taking too long then the design is wrong and therefore the design must be modified to accelerate progress. 2.) Errors made that hinders advancing development - stick to a design even when it is very complicated and to not strive delete parts and processes (not essential to its progress). 3.) Product errors reflect organizational errors - the constraints you are given (talking about departmental interfaces) are guaranteed to be some degree wrong because the counterpoint would be that they are perfect which is never the case. What is the probability that this is a platonic ideal of a perfect part? Zero, so basically you must question your constraints. It does not matter if the person handling you those constraints won a noble prize, even Einstein is wrong some time. So question your constraints and this is extremely important. 4.) Mistakes smart engineers make - biggest traps for smart engineers is optimizing a thing that shouldn’t exist. So they’ll just sit there and spin on that thing that’s just like, “Why do we even have this in the first place?” 5.) Finding answers - Once you properly frame the question the answer is comparatively easy. 6.) If proven wrong - considers it a gift. Don’t want to stick a dumb design if proven there is better way to do it.
So they’ll just sit there and spin on that thing that’s just like, “Why do we even have this in the first place?” - I disagree - more like "how do I make this thing more efficient when I dont know if it needs to be." A good example is search/facet/filter, if i can have 1.5 second response time over a shopping catalog should i engineer sub 100ms constraints, be objective about the constraints and don't overengineer a solutions.
I somewhat disagree with this first perspective. I get this alot working aboard particularly in china. Many times Chinese engineers will look at a design and decide they don't know what it is for and delete it. This can be particularly concerning when dealing with petrochemical safety shutdown systems. I agree you should not just blindly follow a design but rather understand it first ask why does it exist this way. However, going to deletion can be tricky especially if it is a well established design philosophy built on years of design principles. I believe this even slightly applies to the use of ss versus aluminum in rocket material. The early nasa rockets atlas were built from ss and that was changed due to its instability when unfueled. So the use of aluminum was chaged due to learnings of the design flaws of use of ss. I know spacex knows this and will properly evaluate how to handle it. My point is more the choice of aluminum was made based on soild design experience many years ago, if one or two engineers do not know why it doesn't mean just delete it.
Educate your kid's about Elon. I feel it is essential to preserve this man. Half of everyone has no idea what he is talking about, but im sure he is inspiring plenty of people in a significant way.
I love how after the interview is over, elon sticks around to talk just because the interviewer was a cool guy and was asking questions that elon was interested in talking about.
"Even when I'm exposed to this all day... its still mad." Far and away this was the best interview with Elon I've ever seen. Tim, your ability to connect with people everywhere and anywhere shines through and your enthusiasm for rocketry helped us see more than we ever could have of the man behind these brilliantly mad rockets any other way. Thank you!
"If somebody can show that we're wrong, that would be great." This is the mind set of progress right here. Mistakes are just a learning expirence in disguise!
Nobody is perfect. But if you learn with your mistakes, you're in a ascendant curve for being a better person. Musk made a big mistake in this case, but i'm sure he learned a lot from it.
I love how he looks so happy about this project, 'cause I think that we all know how he speaks when he is in front of lots of people, but this time he just nailed it, he was in his natural habitat just talking about aerospace engineering.
This is why elon means a lot to many. Because behind the savy business and the world shaking accomplishments, it is just a dreaming nerd mind, that just see the world and work hard to make it better despite what people think is possible. We need more people like him, that through accomplishment have won enough to last serval lifetimes, yet keep risking all they have every day to make something happen that only they can make possible. We need one for the energy industry, we need one for resource and production automation, we need one in medical and healthspan technology. We need more people like him, able to dream of what could be, and then make it happen.
Jeah. Think about it, this guy KNOWS this and ask the interesting (for Elon) questions while most of the press is just boooring PR shlack. Tbh Elon should just talk to Tim and let him deal with the press :)
The pure PASSION you see when he speaks about even the small things revolving this project. He questions everything. He's a perfect role model for us young engineers & scientists.
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This is probably one of Elon's all-time best interviews. I think he was happy to speak to someone who had a very obvious understanding of his projects. The fact he came back and showed you pictures on his phone. Amazing. This did not even feel like an interview, it felt more like two friends running into each other catching up.
Elon could clearly sense that he had an actual love for space x and the work they were doing, not just some reporter looking to get a headline
Best interview, keep it up!
Exactly! It feels great to watch when he is completely happy to do it.
It must be refreshing for him to give an interview to someone truly interested in the nuts and bolts of his passion, not just another journalist asking mundane questions.
Additionally he knows this is a great way to reach out to people that could one day work in the industry and push mankind's progress.
That’s my thought!
I love Elons face when he realizes Tim is actually an interviewer who knows the basic tech. He seems so reliefed and happy.
I don't think big media will ever get an Elon Musk who forgets the time and keeps on nerding out with you. That's something special.
He already knew Tim from the Q&A sessions of all the presentations of the last couple of years. Now they got up and close.
"you got nice questions on Twitter"
And "nice shirt"
Beautifuly Said!👍🇺🇸🚀
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Sure, but Tim was asking him about an *obscure* type of rockets NEVER EVER actually launched (precisely for a "research video" that may have had just on the very basics).
-> Elon got more relaxed when Tim told him that his part would be "at the end" of it (meaning Elon did not had to explain stuff to neither Tim or the audience).
Yeah, he seems really tense when he's talking with press that don't know much but around Tim he looks so much more relaxed and happy.
The look on Elon’s face and his passion just inspires me like nothing else.
didn't expect to see you here
that actually i think is really important to drive these things.
Harryboy 628 A massive Space fan like me is always lingering around here.
@@FinalGlideAus but y aren't u following elon or spaceX though? In twitter i mean
karthick murali I don’t use Twitter. The less social media apps I have the better. I get all the useful tweets he makes through Reddit.
You can really appreciate how hard he tries to connect with humans
😂
it's especially appreciable considering he's from outer space
He's the most human person I've seen.
😂😂
Definitely.
Seriously, when it comes to interviews like this, raw footage and extreme nerdery is 100% what we love to see. Shaky cam? Bad audio? Wonky framing? Don't care. The Full Elon Brain Dump was worth it. Thanks for posting the whole video.
Oh was the cam shaking? Didn't notice haha
the audio was awesome
This, 100%. We really appreciate the full unedited footage - I'll happily watch the same stuff edited and integrated into other videos too!
yes yes yes uncut for the win
I'm actually starved of good Elon interview videos. I like where he goes in depth with no filter
Tim: "One last qustion"
Elon: *goes for 10 minutes nonstop*
I love those guys enthusiasm.
To be fair... it was only 1 answer.
-> Elon kept extending his line over and over... then they finished with a double hand shake (professionally).
AFTER the "interview" (when normally cameras are shutdown), they reminded him to take out the mic (he did, then he started a normal talk with Tim "off the record" ...)
Haha! Amazing interview.
That's what I love; when you have someone truly dedicated to the pursuit of the science and their goals, they can talk endlessly. I am sure that Tim could have kept Elon there for the next 24 hours just by giving little nudges of questions...
-Irrelevant Chanel
-very unsuccessful businessman (look up elon musk he never got revenue from his projects)
Why on earth people are interested in this sht... I have no idea
Thousand years later he will be remembered as the man who brought first people to Mars.He will be in the history books
you can just TELL Elon is loving this interview. No one talks to Elon like a person. especially someone with so many common interests and ability to understand Elon so well. AMAZING job Tim
Nothing to add!!!
Stop gushing. It’s embarrassing.
@@thethirdman225 stop hating, it's even sadder.
Patreeko theArtist No hating here. What ever gave you that idea?
There sure was a meeting of minds there. Almost tangible.
I've never seen Elon got so excited like this on interview, and I can't stop smiling watching this video, so inspiring!
Getting to talk to someone who will be a major part of human history is a pretty rare experience. Let alone one where that historical figure is fully engaged in the conversation. Life is beautiful.
so true. Life is.
and we get to watch it in 4k ;D
hopefully we will be able to watch this video in 50+ years
How do you know who Elon going to be?
Arthur Osokins he already has achieved that title by docking a rocket in the ISS and with Tesla.
Every other space youtuber: summarizes what Elon Musk said at the Press conference
Everyday Astronaut: Makes his own Press conference with Elon Musk
Legend
He earned it.
I'm really impressed with how far he's come along in learning aerospace engineering. He's really done his homework.
@@phil4826 Tim or Elon? or Both?
And most of the interview was discussing new information, instead of rehashing the presentation. Go Tim!
The moment Elon is interested in a conversation he uncrosses his arms and starts moving his hands around. I love that
He must answer so many dumb questions as part of PR for the masses, so when someone like this comes around and can truly appreciate his work it must be a lovely experience. So nice to see
They both got hands crossed at the begining -> mimicking conversation partner... and it is windy night and they are in open field.
Elon: finally an interviewer who speaks English..
Elon looked so hilariously awkward when he went to leave like he didn't know where to go after but he found refuge in continued unedited nerding.
@Jimbo Bimbo marvel?
I personally think it is probably annoying AF for him that in 3/4 of his interviews people just repeat word for word what he has said in previous interviews and then try to play it off like they're actually smart.
@@danaharris2236 you literally just copied and pasted a comment literally below this one. shut up.
@@danaharris2236 Musk was like: wow that guy knows what he is talking about. I could talke more with that dude.
Elon finally gets to talk to someone who understand what he's talking about. This interview is soooo good.
@Houlmnt sotp
remember when elon musk got to meet the ceo of alibaba :))
@@m1ke841 ALIBABA INTELLIGENCE
Man that was a pain to watch...no idea how Elon was feeling.
Couldn't agree more. The deepest thing our journalist here managed to pry from Musk was about the importance of all members of the organization knowing what the big picture and mission was and how the machine works in principle in order to avoid partial optimization. This is the most important thing in this whole video. Everything else is based on that. What gets you to Mars isn't that rocket. It's the organization.
The way you can see Elon loved this interview is the fact that he talked for another 5 minutes about header tanks after you said "Thanks for your time", awesome job Tim!
Thank God he forgot about the micophone
@BeAn BeAn the woman ushering him away is a CNN reporter as you can see in their interview, probably waited too long for Tim to finish lol
I genuinely teared up because of how beautiful this interview was.
Elon was like a child not wanting to go, like he finally found someone who understands him and shares his passion.
keep it up!
Me too! I was so happy for both of them!
He should have asked him for a job 😆
I can just imagine those two catching up from time to time without the cameras and microphones :)
@@pseudonayme7717 maybe some day Elon asks Tim if he wants a job. 😎👍
... But it would have to be something that SpaceX currently is missing. Otherwise it would not make sense.
Maybe a side kick for detailed background information at rocket launch coverages. And they would not need to pause for 45 minutes until the next firing is done. Tim would easily fill that time with information and enthusiasm - and with a live Q&A session with questions from the stream.
I'm sure he hates such presentations, but he also knows it's the only way to garner support for what he is doing, and the crowd wants to see him of course.
12:02 Elon didn’t want to end the conversation 🥺
🥺🥺😢
That's sad
Yea i know Elon even still came back to talk more. I could tell Tims time was up though because people started flooding into the shot, then that super hot lady stopped the conversation forcefully. Thats so messed up but his time is super important.
@@Kaodusanya shes hot
HAHAHAHA!
The fact that the interview ended, and he proceeded to give you 10 more roughly minutes of his time. What a legend!
Exactly. That's what really showed just how much he enjoyed the interview.
It proves he’s a genuine guy Elon musk wants the best for humanity not himself
Exactly! That's why one can blindly trust this man..not driven by politics or money.. pure passion!!!
It amazes me how down to Earth Elon is ! He treats every interviewer the same way 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
He explains things in a simple way so everyone who’s interested can basically understand it.
Love to see Elon's enthusiasm over meeting a "reporter" that actually understands what he is talking about. He couldn't get away before his assistant said the time was up. Thank you for bringing this to us Tim
Tim asks him (good) questions on Twitter all the time, so Elon knew who he was talking to. It's so weird to see them talk like they're just friends, I love it.
@@just_lun4 It was funny how excited he got about all the technical details and they had the assistant to come and intervene to break them up :P
The way he talks to you versus the way he talks when addressing a crowd is so much different. As soon as he took your question during the event, he suddenly opened up and seemed much happier to answer. The same happens here, he's so open and easier to talk to, less stuttering and much quicker on the details. I love to see that, you obviously has his respect and he knows he doesn't have to dumb down his answers. Great to see.
he always wants to talk to fast, and getting in the same time alot things which he want to express. Sometimes hard to follow.
I noticed. He started to dumb it down but realized he didn't have to. Really enjoyed this one!
How much of Elon's awkwardness is because he's translating himself for a general audience? He's much more fluent in the nerdy details. Tim, I'm so glad you got to bring that out. Keep being amazing!
@@brian554xx I saw that too - Elon wasn't pausing every few words to think about how much sense the listener will make of what he is saying, instead, he was able to just go on and on.
So who's going to be calling Tim for him to interview:
Next1; Bezos
Next2; Branson
Next3; ?
:D
I agree!
You can tell Elon knows he understands. The expression and passion on Elon’s face says everything
I cried 😭😭😭😭
I love how even after they officially ended the interview musk stayed there to keep talking because he just enjoyed the casual talk, what an awesome person
And pulled out his phone to show pics!
Thats how you know he actually is interested in this and it's not just another revenue stream for him.
I got the impression Elon also genuinely enjoyed talking to Tim. There seemed to be a good chemistry between them.
He’s not a CEO. he’s just a cool kid with a science project which just got a slightly big budget :D
LOL, requesting the whole footage🤣
I honestly think they should have Tim interview Elon at the end of every starship update. Legit it seems Elon loves talking to him since he understands it all which is awesome because we get great questions and great answers.
@@user-jp1qt8ut3s lucky???. do you know how many sleepless hours he worked to get to this position. success in a capitalist country comes with hardworking and creativity, luck has nothing to do with it.
@@sky-xk5be r/woooooooooosh
Yeah this guy is a passionate interviewer. They just should talk to the camera guy. Stop swirling the camera I got dizzy!
Elon Musk is a quack
@@lostintime8651 A quack who has launched rockets into space, landed and reused them, catalyzed the proliferation of electric cars, and done numerous other things that benefit humanity. You look useless by comparison.
"If someone can show that we are wrong, that would be great." A philosophy I would love to see much more of. Brilliant.
...Unlikely in the selfish world that is traditional capitalism. Ego usually rules - and is in direct proportion to level of ignorance.
People can be extremely closed-minded though. If I could show you God is real, that the Bible is true, that Jesus really did rise from the dead, that life didn't evolve but was created about 10,000 years ago, or that CO2 is not pollution - most people would close their mind and not even want to know.
Thats like all of science lol. Everytime you do an experiment, you kinda hope you predicted the answear wrong, since that means there is some new hidden (physics biology etc.) behind it
@@newsgetsold You're right on one thing....CO2 is not airpollution. It is a greenhouse gas and when dissolved in water, it acidified the water. So, not direct pollution like NOx or PM, but a trouble maker non the less.
@@kaasman78 What is the evidence that it is a trouble maker?
They said more smart things in 17 minutes then I’ve said in 22 years.
than*
@@sahildhingla ‘‘twas the joke
@@nickcorwin1410 became the joke as soon as he pointed it out
@@justnick1566 nicks should be frinedly to other nicks and you r min not cool dood
i dunt beliv that
It has been the best interview with Elon musk I have seen in years.
Not only because you have touched on themes that have motivated him, but you have had the good fortune to catch him at a time where he was well, lively and energetic.
great job
Yeah the man has been a bit messed up for the last year. Calling people pedophiles and all that.
personzorz
All right. I saw your reply on another comment and now I know what your deal is. Seeing things black and white without searching past what you hear from the mainstream media. Professionally, his reply was the wrong thing to do. However, the context is far more nuanced. On one end, the British diver was being condescending, suggesting Elon to have sexual intercourses with his submarine. On the other, Elon replied with an insult mostly used in South Africa (growing up in Pretoria) that can easily be misinterpreted by the rest of the world. Of course, corporate media being paid to fail us and thriving on controversy, this issue was twisted to make Elon Musk look bad and blown way out of proportion.
Literally the coolest interview I've seen. He's as passionate as a kid. What an absolute inspiration and a genius.
Agree.
@@exoplanets Yes... singing is nice
I love that Elon is such a nerd that he just gets carried away talking about his cool new project and all his future plans even when he's probably supposed to be done with the interview and moving on to other things.
Man..i love him
It's called Asperger
@@raphaelserra7573 Or, you know, loving your work. He probably enjoys talking about how it works and how cool it is with someone actually curious more than he does talking about numbers with shareholders, investors, government officials, etc or talking to a crowd
@@ragnar97 Yes, but the way he talks about it is pretty similar to people who have Asperger's
@@raphaelserra7573 but Asperger is cool
A interviewer who A. Knows what he’s talking about, B. Knows what Elon is talking about, and C. Let’s Elon talk? No wonder he appreciated it and wanted to talk more.
Nanti aku cari loyer
Social Media it's humilty over I'm here if you want
@@anitasaad4875 are you here
“Question your constraints.” - Elon Musk.
I love that line. So many great parallels.
Indeed
Basically saying push your limits right?
"One of the biggest traps for smart engineers is optimizing a thing that shouldn't exist" 4:55
So true, speaking from a software engineer's perspective.
I mean for programming I come across this a lot lol
Ahaha beat me to it thought exactly same thing lol
Was thinking the exact same thing. Find it quite interesting how many parallels there are between software development and how they work at Space X
From a Mechatronics engineer perspective too.
@@themidnightspark9431 Yeah I can imagine, I guess when you're talking about complicated systems with many different parts that work together (especially with control systems/software being a huge part of it) it all starts blending together. Have heard quite a few different industries adopting the agile approach to all sorts of product development.
That was the best Elon Musk interview I have seen - he just looked like he enjoyed nerding out with you, I enjoyed that more than I enjoyed his presentation tbh. Also thank you for not over editing it, that made it something special.
this! 👌🏼
Jahulath Yes!!
Cynthia Rodriguez : Elon is great one on one, especially with someone who shares his passion / knows what he’s talking about
He also speaks more fluently than during his presentations.
🤘😁🍻
That was the single most enjoyable Elon Musk interview I've ever seen. It was the first time in a decade I regret dropping out of aerospace engineering to pursue something else. Thanks so much for the full video. Goosebumps.
Love the fact that Elon himself didn't want to end the convo
haibozo Karem yeah, I absolutely got the feeling Elon understood he was talking to someone that just got it.
haibozo Karem Who was that girl that rushed him to go?
@@peterbondy Not really, they are worlds apart...
i hate your profile pic
@@mjk8019 Looked like Jessica Anderson, she's been a host in a few Spacex livestreams. Not 100% sure though.
Goddamn I've never seen Elon give answers* that fluently and fast.
So amazing to see how he reacts to a person that actually knows their stuff. He seems super introverted in most other interviews
I know this feeling when you are searching for the right words so that non technical people can actually understand your concept on the one hand and the feeling when you can just use the word that comes to your mind on the other hand...
meamZ SAAAAMMMEEE 🙁
Quite the difference knowing he can speak geek and not press release.
During his presentation you could visibly see him struggle to dumb down everything for the masses.
This was Elon being guarded yet geeking out
I guess it's partly because in this interview they talked about technical/engineering topics he thinks about every day. In other interviews it's often stuff that asks about himself or his opinion on stuff that he doesn't think as much about. Maybe even topics that he has to take care not to get sued/shitstormed for the wrong answer, which makes you think about what you say twice.
I think you’ve captured something unique here. The whole conversation is very natural. Good interview!
Historical is the word I would use.
Really feels like Elon is in his element there. It's amazing
You can tell when Elon got excited after figuring out he's talking to a guy who knows everything about rockets
When someone pulls out his phone to show you pic's, you know you've achieved a next-level relationship.
Absolutely!
@@wrongtimeweeder1076 "Wait, don't scroll too far up, that's Me with Grimes"
My friend show pictures of his dog to complete strangers. Not because he loves THEM - but because he loves HIS DOG. Just sayin'
@Bebopman Current Kinky... she likes you.
Bro. You could’ve just said she was a solid 10 and we’d have given you props.
This is one of the best interviews I've seen with Elon and another person. Clearly he feels extremely comfortable on his turf. The first 30 seconds of seeing the interviewers t-shirt he knows that this person has spent at least some time thinking about how to capture his attention that is at least catered to him. Then to follow up on that, this guy actually actually knows his stuff before asking questions. The sheer enthusiasm being shared between 2 people is wonderful. Such an insightful side to Elon I have not seen before. Thank you for this lovely uncut version of Elon and yourself. Just wonderful.
It's really fun to watch when 2 people that actually know what they are saying are talking
Seriously. That was one of the best interviews I have ever seen with Elon Musk. Completely relaxed, on the same page and both of you just totally geeking out. Elon should talk to you more!
I must disagree, sir! :) Is simply the best interview anyone's done with Elon. He's truly involved in a one-on-one conversation, free to talk tech terms, and forgets the camera is there.
I'll take that. It's going to take some doing to top it.
0:39 whistling away as if he hasn’t a billion things in his mind
nice.
He´s whistling "How high is the Moon" before starting to answer questions! Fine humor!
Elon wants to keep talking to him cuz he's actually a smart interviewer, and Elon knew it and got pumped.
totally..
He seeems so exited to finally be interviewed by someone who understands what hes talking about and can hold a conversation about rocket tech.
factssss
Most commercial media guys put him off with dumb questions and oversimplified understanding of what's what to which Elon can't answer without being distracted from his passion.
@@android12921 To be fair, the commercial media are mainly for the average viewer, with little investment with Elon Musk's doing.
We who watches Tim Dot on the other hand can fully nerd around with his stuff!
"If a design is taking too long, design is wrong!"
"Product errors reflect organizational errors."
"You should take the approach that the constraints given to you are guaranteed to be some degree wrong, so always question them regardless the credibility of the person handing them to you."
"One of the biggest traps for smart engineers is, optimizing a thing that shouldn't exist."
"When you can properly frame the question, the answer is comparatively easy."
- Elon Musk
When working with or for imbeciles though, questionning constraints regardless of the credibility of the person handing them to you is how you get singled out as an insubordinate employee, or someone who cannot work in teams, and you get kicked out or prevented from going higher.
"When you can properly frame the question, the answer is comparatively easy."
Another perspective (is worth 80 IQ points), "A problem well stated is a problem half solved."
Sasindu Mendis yeah, tasty
Sasindu Mendis lol, design errors like apple products
I almost made the same comment, but thought, maybe I should keep these bits of knowledge to myself as to not give my competitors any advantage.
"If the design takes too long, it's wrong"
SLS: *start sweating*
Jokes on them, the starship might actually sweat in the future
I LOLed :)
@@blainegrant3276 r/wooosh
@@blainegrant3276 well it will for cooling elon even said it
Just watching the likes slowly go up
I feel inspired. I'm definitely going to put that shelf up this week.
the question then becomes, did you actually do it? If so, good job! If not, doesn't matter, just try it again. You'll get there, this random internet stranger knows it for sure!
you go put up that shelf man im rooting for youuu!!!
proud of you my guy
Ten months in, how’s that shelf coming?
Hi Tim,
Why don't you send a "Full Flow" shirt to ELon as a thank you for the interview. You might see him wearing it in some other interviews.
He did say he liked it.
Ed Korn great idea! Tim do it!
Great idea! I bet Elon would wear it often too! I think Tim @everydayastronaut should send him a care package of EA gear 👍
great idea.. that would rock on so many levels..
That's a great idea @Ed Korn!
Yeeees
I love how Elon thinks faster then he can talk. Also. He basicly acts like a normal guy who's a nerd about space... I like how he never puts on airs or acts more then he is.
Everybody thinks faster than they talk though
Actually, what he does is try to explain it in such a way that you can understand it.
He possibly understand much more than he explains, just try to do the simplest for us.
He is a "crack"
People who are busy making themselves useful don't have time to think about how important they are. They are too busy trying to think of something else useful to do :)
HE'S ON COKE.
Lol
He must have loved having an interviewer who understood technical details and asked detailed technical questions.
yeah my thoughts exactly, this guy lives for this kind of stuff and im sure Elon and him couldve kept talking forever if they had time.
Yes, he quickly didn't think of Tim as an interviewer, but a fellow enthusiast to converse with. Led to Elon extending the conversation and breaking news exclusive about the redesign of the nosecone/header tanks. Priceless.
elon is like a walking "passion". like i don't even have motivation to stand up for a tv remote. i really admire this guy.
Elon looks like a giddy child on Christmas morning whenever he gets to talk to someone who understands his passions. I love it
RunnerBoi95 exactly my very first impression of him
I couldn’t stop smiling through the whole video
Me neither, absolutely amazing interview. I joked when Elon when off stage that he was off to give Tim an exclusive.... Imagine my reaction when this video came up in my notifications..... :D
The delay was probably because of this interview 😂 So proud of Tim
so do I =)))
I don't think many people will ever get an interview like this. This is a piece of history.
Your profile pic is so contradicting
Everyday astronaut: "Thanks for your time."
Musk: "I'm not done"
@Houlmnt Are you a professional troll or do you simply got, just way to much time on your hands??😂😂
@Houlmnt xamm nap
I don't know how Musk manages his time like that.
12:01
He enjoyed this so much. You could just see!
Every time elon speaks it sounds like he’s from the future trying not to say anything that can create a paradox 😂
Hahahaha brilliant comment, can't unsee this theory now lol
Or he is just stoned :)
@Salil Mittal I know lol
Maybe he is 🤭🤔
I swear he is hiding something.
9:52 "If somebody could show that we're wrong, that would be great" - Elon Musk, 2019, Can you imagine the world we would live in if more organizations, people and governments lived by that mantra? No wonder SpaceX is doing so well
But then you have to convince them.
@@TheGreatSteve No question. Thats how any employer works. My secret had to die with me at my last workplace because I couldn't convince my employer...My new employer on the other hand offered more and understood.
maybe that explains some of the delays with ULA?
@@andrew1717xx sucks for your last employer but at least your somewhere that respects your input enough to at least look over your proofs
Bc he is a scientist, he is a physicist, they are taught to learn and approach new things that way
As you said Tim "I think he enjoyed it too." He was obviously enjoying the conversation and did not seem to be in a hurry to end the interview. I think he felt like he was holding YOU up.
I'm sure he had other places to be and others to meet. He'd have liked to talk longer, but just couldn't
One of these days Tim Dodd is going to get Elon Musk for a day as they tour Starship and possibly take it for a trip into space together.
I hope Tim will be ready when that happens.
He seems like such a nice guy and so passionate about what he's talking about
Which one? 😂
@Frank R In Soviet Russia, you don't light firework, the firework light you.
@Mark Mitchell You never know. I read about an alien that was speeding up space rocketry development to get the rocket built he needed to get home... ;)
How people should actually be if they followed their own passions and left their ego behind them.
@Mark Mitchell And who has the metal in his head? Is the quiet little town Bioca Chica? (I don't know that film, you got me curious. Watching it right now)
Done.
1) A tinfoil hat might have helped.
2) Yuk! He kissed an alien.
3) Alion Musk is not like that. He's kind.
man, this is so gold! Future generations will look into this interview and be amazed! Thanks Tim for this!
This is the most important interview of Elon Musk ever produced. You gave him the freedom and confidence in your understanding of what he said to unleash his full, delighted participation. It's an incredible accomplishment, far above that achieved by all the high paid professionals of conventional media. Thanks for doing this!
Im kinda marveling at his humility to talk to a youtuber. He really was thrilled to talk about this stuff too.
You can praise talking to a RUclipsr, but if there is one thing Elon Musk has absolutely zero of, it is humility. The man thinks his own farts are made out of gaseous gold.
personzorz
Please elaborate.
@@personzorz If you can walk the talk theres no problem
The man memes on twitter, goes out with Grimes, and laughed at a dead deer. Nothing is out of bounds with this mad genius.
Lotus
Forget it. Saw another reply from this guy and he keeps corporate medias narrative.
Elon is such a genuinely good dude and as brilliant as he seems. Seriously, you could tell he enjoyed the hell out of this interview. I love that he pulled out his phone and showed off pictures like a regular person haha
Yeah lol but I heard that his employees think otherwise when they work 60 hrs plus a week. Check the reviews.
@@mah-ky4pi They chose to work for a ridiculously over ambitious self-confessed workaholic and are free to leave anytime. It isn't healthy to work 60+ hours a week but it's also not unusual in certain professions.
@@GonzoTehGreat what this dude even doing here... highly recommend to not waste time on such people. if he still doesn't get that 60h+ a week is a minimum to chase your career/dreams.
@@RyNiuu It is not possible to "waste time" on people. You should try to deconstruct these beliefs.
@@mah-ky4pi I work 60 plus hours a week and I sell cars lol. I'd work 100 hours a week if I could work for spaceX
He is so down to earth. He is the richest among all.. But how he is talking with him is so adorable to watch
He will be down to mars soon ;)
I don't think down to earth suits him
Tim: There must be a reason aerospikes are not used. Period.
Elon: Maybe that reason is wrong.
This guy questions everything, that makes him so great.
Well the shuttle would have been a far better glider with an aerospike for one. The biggest thing it really has going for it is low drag when not in use. That's why you see them on air launched missiles. They don't slow the plane nearly as much as a bell nozzle.
A hypersonic air launched system designed for propulsive landing could be a great use case for a spike. It would need low drag when mounted on the parent aircraft, as well as efficiency in vacuum, all while not blowing up at sea level. Hypersonic air launch is the next big milestone, as rockets truly suck up to Mach 5.
Everyone should question everything. It's called critical thinking.
@@LoanwordEggcorn Maybe critical thinking is wrong? :P
Comment section please be good, this video is just amazing
This was weird. it's like "You've not used aerospike, you're smart one, so there's a reason. Period. I don't hold my breath. Just a little". - "Maybe that reason is wrong", hurray, but then he says something about second stage not needing one... come on, that thing is going to work in a vacuum and on landing, and in current design it already has 3 engines for that and 3 for that, wouldn't it be better to have just 3 engines? I can understand that this is still risky, because of thermal issues, because firing into the supersonic airstream could be problematic or whatever. And that reward could be not THAT great, but that wasn't what they actually said.
Okay. This is the best interview with Elon Musk that I've ever seen and I've seen them all. No common question/repeated answer lulls. Just genuine enthusiasm and geeking out to the point I'm over here looking stuff up. Really great work!
I'm like 95% sure the interview is only that short because of publicists, if that was Elon and Tim's choice we'd have a 7 hour long interview that probably ends with them drunk at a bar discussing some ridiculous idea.
Joe Rogans is cool too
Same. I paused the video twice to look up exactly what they were talking about. (For example aerospikes, I had no idea that was a thing. Keep in mind I don't know much about rockets, just a huge fan of Elon and everything he's trying to do.)
@@SomethingSeemsOff Tim will be releasing an entire video on aerospikes tomorrow, its been in the works for a while now. Trust me Tim was probably over the moon that he got to get Elon's take on them. A massive cherry on top for the video I'm guessing. If I were Tim I would totally be pinching myself right about now.
it was indeed :).
I love how he’s in no hurry to entertain Tim’s questions - he’s totally relaxed and willing to go through these answers. Congrats Tim
Even kept talking willfully and interested after TWO goodbye handshakes!
Elon is totally in his element here!
Yes, congrats!
Not everyday that he encounters someone who approaches his level of knowledge (and geekiness)....
@@macioluko9484 Cars and batteries are side gigs. This is *The Chocolate Factory.*
His cars are all over the road, his spaceships are all over space...who the hell does that? Elon is the man...straight up!
his car is also in space too
@@cvspvr 😯
He has rockets on the road and a car in space too o.0
Don't forget about tunnels underground lol
@@THIS---GUY I would have mentioned that but it's a boring company.
When you're so good that you manage to make Elon Musk genuinely interested in talking to you. Wow
I could see tim getting a chance to talk with elon alot longer in the future.
Musk is genuine. Wouldn't be surprised if the interviewer gets a job somewhere in his companies. He doesn't care about your degree. Maybe like 5% he does.
I could see them dating and having hot romantic butt sax.
Elon clearly enjoys these interviews much more, not a typical news reporter asking basic questions, but 2 people who just talk about what they love
yea thats why the JRE interview was so amazing... he clearly is more excited to have casual conversational interviews than to sit down with some professional TV shmuck whos job is just to read the words on a card.
I love the Elon interviews where you can tell they've gone over whatever the scheduled time was but he's so into it that he just keeps jumping to other points and ramping it back up.
Tim: "one more question"
Me: *looks at video bar, still half left* "oh yeah, one question"
lol same haha
Hahaha same
DerekSP Musk is really the one who kept the interview trailing on. Love it! His enthusiasm, curiosity, passion and fantastic nerdy commitment are inspiring. Tim was of course eating it all up, he was with Musk the whole way. Bravo!
@@kjb930 ...Echo Sierra Tango
This interview was incredible. Finally understand why Elon is so smart.
Why
The ending was actually amazing he just chilled and talked with you about rockets and actually showed u pictures on his phone from the inside, that's so awesome!:)
I love how when asked about aerospike he wanted to make sure that Tim would explain us what an aerospike is, it really gives the idea that he wants people to understand. Great man
"If a design is taking too long, the design is wrong. The design must be modified to accelerate progress. "
Gold.
*cough* SLS *cough*
How to sum up NASA in one sentence!
The best solutions are simple and elegant.
Reminds me of the days of lightning progress in c.1950 military aviation. When designing the British Canberra bomber, Colin Chapman said "Simplificate, and then add lightness." Elon would have hired him. (Designed from the outset for ultra-high altitudes, a version of this plane is still in use by NASA.)
I think Kelly Johnson liked this phrase.
*adds elons dialogue into chat bot*
I love when Elon sutters a little because you know he's passionate about what he's saying.
He's translating genius to English
it's because his brain is faster then his mouth
Believe the stutter is a pause to scan through tons of information and knowledge retained in his brain to link, analyze and conclude before speaking
"Asking the right questions is key." And you asked the right questions!
This is the most natural conversation ever seen with Elon. Interviews in studios/onstage just don't show the real Elon. We can see the many bits that bounce around in his mind - and reach 99% combustion efficiency!
What you did, we see it 😲😄
Full flow conversation Elon.
Nice metaphor.
Great point! It's pointless to have an all-around journalist talk to someone whose brain is just nonstop ideas about a singular thing. You need someone who really understands what the subject is, and then the conversation is very fruitful.
ahhhmmm I think you mean 98.5%..........
Wow! This was probably the best Elon Musk interview I've seen. You could see that he was really happy once you showed you understood what he was saying. He started explaining things more technically, his speaking got smoother. He's such an amazing guy.
Yea probely becuase he can say things how they are and he doesint have to simplify
@@jimJim- Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Talking to crowds, he often uses more vague and general terms, and trips over his words more.
I can't relate to how much he knows, but I can definitely relate to being difficult to talk when people can't see what's in your mental vision.
When Elon talks to "Regular" people, like on _60 Minutes_ or at a press conference, he has to "dumb down" everything, and it messes up his rhythm and thought process.
This is my first time seeing him talk to someone more towards his level.
Watching you both finishing each other's sentences is truly joyous!
Only downside is now I have no idea what he's talking about :P
I go through that on a daily basis but you are right. Watching those other interviews is funny af
I'm sorry, but in my opinion, the boy is not even close to the level of Elon Musk - he's just an amateur trying to become a celebrity.
@@xnrv I think what he meant was same level of knowledge on the subject, Elon probably knows more just because he built rockets but everyday astronaut atleast understands what he is talking about unlike people who haven't studied the topic for awhile.
@@xnrv He didn't say AT his level, only "more towards his level" there is a big difference. Tim is close enough to grasp the concepts, follow along and ask informed questions, which was clearly a welcomed change of pace for Elon. I personally would love to see a longer interview with these two.
Elon: finishes the interview
Also Elon: imma take this mic
Lol
Imagine what we could have heard if he kept it...
@@nihilist1680 true that true that
This is the happiest I've ever seen Elon talking to someone
exactly. loved it
I love how respectful you were trying not to wast his time.
Waste
Tim: Thanks for your time
Elon: NO WAIT I WANNA TALK HEADER TANKS
Elon is like. "Finally somebody that speaks my language"
@Action Man Sorry, but Yang does not have much of a chance. Any of the candidates would be better than the status quo.
@@rogerheuckeroth7456 None of them have a chance against Trump just FYI, also Trump has actually been a good president for space, nuclear energy, the economy, and avoiding wars.
@@livefire666 LOL. If Trump even is the republican candidate. He might impeached and facing criminal proceedings.
@@rogerheuckeroth7456 Ya not going to happen, just like it didnt happen last last time. Today's governments "world wide including Americas" is so full of pay to play politicians and criminal corruption, it would take A LOT to ever impeach a president. Bush should of been impeached over very serious crimes about half a dozen times but it didnt happen. Obama should of probably been impeached for attacking Libya and involvement in the assassination of Qaddafi, and giving weapons to "basically terrorists" in Syria, but didnt happen. Every president for 40 years "except Trump" started a new unconstitutional war in his first 2 years in office for corrupt reasons. That is just how low the bar is today.....
Who’s Back hear after SN8 just to learn more, nice job Tim...
To me, the best and most fascinating/valuable part of the interview was Elon's discussion around engineering organizational decision process management: fundamental, common systemic errors in the design and build process and especially the super-important relationship between product and organizational units that produce that product; how to do it right and what to avoid. WOW!!!!! That is truly the fundamental Spacex sauce of success.
I literally started taking notes after 2 minutes haha
Couldn't agree more.
Yeah, can't wait for the books they all gonna change the world, one mind at a time, one company at a time and hopefully education as a whole.
if you're interested to learn more, google "conway's law". he was basically giving the "i read the wiki page on this a couple months ago" explanation of it.
r vanden Yes, I agree! Now that’s how to run an engineering firm or any company for that matter! Also thinking “out of the box” and not assuming that past ways are best or that they are necessarily invalid, either. You have to run the numbers - like with the steel thing. Ceramic tiles weigh a lot! Steel is stronger too, especially at the extremes of temperature.
OMG finally, the man who deserves the most to do an interview with him has finally done it!
I was beaming when I saw this... It is not everyday the internet gives you something that you just love... this type of access would have been impossible without it. I am so happy for Tim... he has earned this moment.
The irony is that Elon Musk is obsessed with going up to space while he's one of the most down to earth people out there.
*bu duh psh*
To everything in nature, there is a balance... Or so I've heard. 😀
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Watching them geek-out like that is so wholesome!
I love how they were about to end the interview and then they just start legitimately enjoying a conversation with each other
"One of the mistake most smart engineers make is optimizing the thing that shouldn't exist!"
A Solid Philosophy!
It’s basicly what happens with ICE Cars versus Electric.
example : "airospikes"
I'm literally in the middle of a 4+ day code refactor, and that one hit me like a ton of bricks. :/
This applies to so many things big and small. To give some credit, often the engineers aren't even in a position to decide whether it exists or not: they're told to work a system and so they do it. They have no ownership of the larger scope. And people who do manage the larger scope don't always see all the minutiae of what is gong on in the optimizations of those little things.
Worked for a shipbuilder, spent many many months (over years) working on a major unit as part of a system only to find that on the next generation being worked on, they had implemented a new tech that completely omitted the need for the unit entirely. So we were spending probably millions of dollars and years of man-hours in refining a system that was already obsolete and a better solution was already designed. But the people dictating the use of the system and having us implement it were so far removed from the process they just said "well we need an X" and may not have even known we had an X2 elsewhere. I wouldn't have even known if I hadn't just happened to be loaned to a completely different group for a month and come across it.
Then at the small scale I'll design some little widget and spend a lot of time trying to fit two springs into a tight space, before realizing I can just have one spring do both jobs. I tried to optimize that spring and it was superfluous. Saved a decent amount of money. So yes, total optimization is deleting as much as possible.
As an electronic control systems engineer, I second that statement. I can't tell you how many times I've removed entire circuits from a system because of the unwanted feedback it caused to a process or the duplication of effort they sometimes represented. Too many design engineers have never had to work on the mess they generate.
He doesn’t feel like a CEO. he’s just a cool kid with a science project which just got a slightly big budget :D
Exactely! We need more of those to bring the fun back!
@@CarChrisMC the bean counters created much suicide. It's nice to see the opposite in Elon's ventures.
You've uncovered Elon's Secret Sauce(TM).
ilmas ashraf yep! Soulless Bezos
0:38 how many CEOs do you hear whistling? :D
The man is living the dream
12:00 when you say goodbye but are going the same way
That's the best interview I've seen with Elon. Usually he's trying to think through everything before he says it. Here, it looks like he's talking to a friend
He sort of is.. they’ve had a LOT of interaction in twitter
He also know that tim will understand more than the other reporters so he can talk mostly normal.
I think because it’s purely design philosophy and technical stuff that’s happening right now. He’s not trying to sell it or dumb it down...just answering the questions he’s given knowing that it’ll be explained by someone else!
It seemed like Elon didn't want the interview to end. It's like a little.kid talking about his favorite toys. I feel reassured our future is in his hands.
Sooooo why would they end it early then
News reporter walking towards them?
@@themodfather9382 They didn't end it early, he was only supposed to get 2 questions, but Elon kept talking.
I think the cute one with the pony tail and backpack was Grimes.
True
Learnings on this interview:
1.) How to make things go fast - If the design is taking too long then the design is wrong and therefore the design must be modified to accelerate progress.
2.) Errors made that hinders advancing development - stick to a design even when it is very complicated and to not strive delete parts and processes (not essential to its progress).
3.) Product errors reflect organizational errors - the constraints you are given (talking about departmental interfaces) are guaranteed to be some degree wrong because the counterpoint would be that they are perfect which is never the case. What is the probability that this is a platonic ideal of a perfect part? Zero, so basically you must question your constraints. It does not matter if the person handling you those constraints won a noble prize, even Einstein is wrong some time. So question your constraints and this is extremely important.
4.) Mistakes smart engineers make - biggest traps for smart engineers is optimizing a thing that shouldn’t exist. So they’ll just sit there and spin on that thing that’s just like, “Why do we even have this in the first place?”
5.) Finding answers - Once you properly frame the question the answer is comparatively easy.
6.) If proven wrong - considers it a gift. Don’t want to stick a dumb design if proven there is better way to do it.
So they’ll just sit there and spin on that thing that’s just like, “Why do we even have this in the first place?” - I disagree - more like "how do I make this thing more efficient when I dont know if it needs to be."
A good example is search/facet/filter, if i can have 1.5 second response time over a shopping catalog should i engineer sub 100ms constraints, be objective about the constraints and don't overengineer a solutions.
Thank you
I somewhat disagree with this first perspective. I get this alot working aboard particularly in china. Many times Chinese engineers will look at a design and decide they don't know what it is for and delete it. This can be particularly concerning when dealing with petrochemical safety shutdown systems. I agree you should not just blindly follow a design but rather understand it first ask why does it exist this way. However, going to deletion can be tricky especially if it is a well established design philosophy built on years of design principles. I believe this even slightly applies to the use of ss versus aluminum in rocket material. The early nasa rockets atlas were built from ss and that was changed due to its instability when unfueled. So the use of aluminum was chaged due to learnings of the design flaws of use of ss. I know spacex knows this and will properly evaluate how to handle it. My point is more the choice of aluminum was made based on soild design experience many years ago, if one or two engineers do not know why it doesn't mean just delete it.
Isn't 1 and 2 pretty contradictory?
@@srdodem The opposite is true. Read it again, 1 and 2 literally mean the same thing.
Educate your kid's about Elon. I feel it is essential to preserve this man. Half of everyone has no idea what he is talking about, but im sure he is inspiring plenty of people in a significant way.
He's a dumb person's idea of smart. It's gibberish but they think it's over their empty heads
@@windymcgee6833 ok
@@mujtabahussain7015 All you got?
@@windymcgee6833 🙂yes
I love how after the interview is over, elon sticks around to talk just because the interviewer was a cool guy and was asking questions that elon was interested in talking about.
'big brain questions' - i cringed at that dude
Big pachona questions
Yes
The spontaneity was scientifically seductive. Tim is smart and love able.
Yeah he seemed happily surprised like oh I don't have to start at the beginning... well lets go then!
"Even when I'm exposed to this all day... its still mad." Far and away this was the best interview with Elon I've ever seen. Tim, your ability to connect with people everywhere and anywhere shines through and your enthusiasm for rocketry helped us see more than we ever could have of the man behind these brilliantly mad rockets any other way. Thank you!
Idk no offence i still think the Joe Rogan interview was the best, but htis is a close second
Baleur I agree, the joe rogan interview felt a lot more real and heart to heart
@@jdc4316 I would pay to see Tim and Elon sit down together, relax, and talk space travel while enjoying a spliff.
"If somebody can show that we're wrong, that would be great."
This is the mind set of progress right here. Mistakes are just a learning expirence in disguise!
Well, he’s going to trial for defamation this week and he won’t win.
@@thethirdman225 You were wrong.
@@danielklimchuk5213 Yes, I was.
Nobody is perfect. But if you learn with your mistakes, you're in a ascendant curve for being a better person. Musk made a big mistake in this case, but i'm sure he learned a lot from it.
I love the fact that we can all agree that this was the very moment that changed Tim’s life forever…
And to see how far he came in 3 almost 4 years
I love how he looks so happy about this project, 'cause I think that we all know how he speaks when he is in front of lots of people, but this time he just nailed it, he was in his natural habitat just talking about aerospace engineering.
This is why elon means a lot to many. Because behind the savy business and the world shaking accomplishments, it is just a dreaming nerd mind, that just see the world and work hard to make it better despite what people think is possible. We need more people like him, that through accomplishment have won enough to last serval lifetimes, yet keep risking all they have every day to make something happen that only they can make possible. We need one for the energy industry, we need one for resource and production automation, we need one in medical and healthspan technology. We need more people like him, able to dream of what could be, and then make it happen.
the way elon lit up when you started asking him engineering questions. im so happy for you, been watching your videos for years now!
Jeah. Think about it, this guy KNOWS this and ask the interesting (for Elon) questions while most of the press is just boooring PR shlack. Tbh Elon should just talk to Tim and let him deal with the press :)
@@nasigoreng553 I'm sitting here wondering if there is a polite way to say "F%^ off trollboy". Probably not...
@@scottwa Well, I upvoted you and downvoted him. How's that work? Some people just can't contain their jealousy at other people's accomplishments.
The pure PASSION you see when he speaks about even the small things revolving this project. He questions everything. He's a perfect role model for us young engineers & scientists.
Role model for everyone
I can't believe the progress that has happened in just a year OMG