DIY FFB steering wheel | 😱 50Nm 😱 | HIGH performance & FUN
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2023
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in this video I'll show you how to build a high-performance force feedback steering wheel for a fully DIY racing simulator. I designed it to be simple to build, readily available components, and to be constructed out of standard hardware store plywood. the feedback I was able to achieve is amazing with up to 50NM of torque and it definitely outperforms every steering wheel on the market under the 500$ price tag also considering the much cheaper price I was able to get it down to.
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Impressive work mate
This is just amazing, i wish i can do this kind of stuff
Brother i will be using the padel you showed in your video but i dont want to use the motor for steering as it is our of my budget range, is there any possible connection without the motor?
And one more question,
How do i make it recognise as racing wheel to play ganes like forza horizon as it doesn't show in game ?
Help me out brother 🥺
Hey so what if someone happned to fry their 23nm DD wheel USB side (as in it turns on, centers and has resistance but wont detect, could i use the parts to make my own? Just use the motor, housing and disconnect it has already and just change the internals? I am deeply hoping i can salvage this thing, i think i have a stepper motor and arduino here i can use, any guidance would be helpful!!!
Nice work! How are the connections made from the button board to the Arduino/computer? Are they wireless? If not, how do you prevent the cables from twisting?
does it have any problem does it have enough tourq when using planatory gearbox ?
What are the specifications of the motor
Ciao, complimenti per il progetto
Puoi mettere un link del PCB dei pulsanti gentilmente?
E quali pulsanti hai usato?
Io ne ho provati diversi ma non funzionano, alla fine ho optato per i micro switch.
Grazie in anticipo
Is possibly with arduino mega 2650?
bravissimo,attendo con ansia il video del coding(se poi ce lo lasci linkato in descrizione mi faresti un bel piacere)
Certamente, grazie per l'apprezzamento
GENIUSSSSSSSS
Can you please tell which motor and encoder you used?
As can i see, i have the same motor and maybe encoder. It's my1016 motor and omron style encoder (e6b2-cwz6c)
What were all the parts used in this video because they were not put down in the description. 😅
The parts are in the video, while a parts list could be nice(Maybe in the Gdocks folder as a pdf) you can see all the components que uses. The buttons and limit swiches are interchangeable.
What is much better should I use a geared ratio with a shaft connected to a dc motor or shaft directly connected to the motor?
If you're using a motor like this you will not get enough torque out of the motor without a gearbox
Amazing project but soon all the plastic and plywood moving parts will brake or come loose.
A metal structure will last far longer but it will also come in a much higher price.
Do you also have the Arduino code for this project? tried esp32 before but like simplicity of arduino's 🙂
I:LL share every tech detail in my next video
Hey brother can you tell me the name of the pcb part wich use to connect swiches in F1 type steering, and also how it conneting to the Arduino plzz❤
That's a USB joystick board
@@DAZprojects thanks brother
@@DAZprojects bro can u give me your e mali please 😘
@@pesandukithmal3423 that's in the description of my channel
Hello is the 2bts 7960 are needed or juste on will work? And can I make it without the pedals so I don't have to buy the PCB way pcb because I already have pedals? Thanks
Just one will work with a 250w motor, a 350w motor will blow it up instantly, I learned the hard way blowing 4 of them up because I didn't understand what was happening
Hello, amazing work btw. What if i use 250 watt 24 volt and connected it to 2 bts7960 in paralel? Is it will still work?
Because i already tried using only 1 bts7960 and i think it got toast and the motor wont move or rotate @@DAZprojects
@@DAZprojectsIt was working at first, then when i tried to check the ffb using wheelcheck app. The motor doesnt move or rotate.
Is the circuit diagram for the arduino mini cnc available
No, I lost the files
is this a lot better than a thrustmaster t300? i have a t300 and i was thinking of building this one, but is it worth it or should i stick with my t300? thanks a lot
Look at my latest video where I built a sim racing wheel from a hoverboard motor, you should be able to build it for around 200€, and you get a direct drive wheel base with 15nm of torque and amazing build quality. That would be much better than the thrustmaster t300 since it pumps out peaks of 1500w of power, and has a nominal power of 350w. Compared to the 25w of your wheel. It also is direct drive which is definitely a plus.
Thank you so much for the quick reply and info! And thank you for your videos! Godspeed!
So why I spend $1,200 with fanatec
This is unreal! Absolutey amazing work. When compared to high end belt driven wheels, how detailed is the feedback to the wheel? I'd assume manufacturers tune them to work specifically for each game, with each gme giving different detail in feedback related to the physics, can these things be implemented within your logic board?
Or could y ou just steal a pcb from another wheel or something? Really interested to know how you get your DIY set up to be recognised as a wheel, seems far too easy watching your video :)
@@Invin_cibles I'll make another vid explaining the firmware and setup inside the PC, it's fairly straightforward, but doesn't allow for backlash tuning or anything similar
hypothetically, if a normal dd has the power to rip your arm off, wouldnt this take you with it?
Yes, but I limited the power quite a bit
Sir please send us the blueprint of parts I do not have Lazer CNC but I have router cnc
They're in the description
using belts and pulleys is better ??
That would remove backlash, but it will increase complexity, precision needed and size
thanks@@DAZprojects
50Nm? Really? My VRS wheelbase, which has an industrial Mige 130 servomotor and is 3 times the size of this little motor provides only 20NM. A Simucube 2, which costs over 3000 Euros can only generate 35Nm and will brake your thumbs if you're not careful or experienced. How did you measure 50NM and how is it that the torque doesn't rip the wood and your 3d printed parts to pieces? Don't get me wrong, I think that what you did is creative and cool, but there is no way that this is generating 50Nm even with the gearbox in any type of useful way. Only looking at you driving, I can see that you're nowhere near 15Nm (30% of your gain) My wheelbase is bolted with M8 Steel bolts to a 40/120mm aluminum rig. When I run it at 15Nm the vibration travels throughout the whole house. I had to mount the rig on 5cm damping rubber to prevent that from happening and still can't get it completely dampened. The fact that you run it at 15Nm and can drive a Formula 1 car and holding on to hard 3D printed plastic grips without any gloves,....and on top of that bolted to a wooden desk? It would tear your skin and shake the whole desk. I think that there is something wrong with your calculations.
I calculated 50nm from the stall torque of the motor I used, it maxes out at 5nm of stall torque, running that through the 10 to 1 gearbox gives a max stall torque of 50nm. max torque (not stall torque) is rated at 1.8nm and gives 18nm at the wheel. I don't know if torque ratings on aftermarket wheels are stall or max torque, maybe help me with that if you know more on this topic, thanks 👍
@@DAZprojects If this is the 350W MY1060 motor its rated at 1.22Nm with a max/peak torque of 1.46Nm. Peak torque is the value all manufacturers refer to when they show how strong their wheelbase is. I did not find anything about the stall torque rating on the MY1060 motor and would not know how this value would be relevant to measure the effective torque on a wheelbase. If you're running your wheel at 30% of the peak torque value with the gearbox , you're running it at 4.36Nm, which would make much more sense, just looking at how it's constructed (in terms of durability) how it behaves, how you're holding on to it when you're driving and how it affects the table it's mounted to. Then there is also the question of FFB detail and how responsive the wheel is. How fast does it deliver the torque and how fast can it change direction etc. Just out of interest: Does the motor get very hot?
@@DAZprojects If you wan't to know what it is like to run a wheelbase just over 20Nm, watch this video of Jimmy Broadbent driving his wheel at higher FFB with the disclaimer to not try this at home. ruclips.net/video/D1gGo8QheDU/видео.html
@@mementomori4972 thanks for pointing this out, keep in mind that I'm running global gain at 30% and car gain (in this case on the gr3 RS) at 40% which corresponds at a total gain of 12%
12% of 50nm is exactly 6nm which is close to the 4.36 you suggested
Keep in mind that the MY1060 motor I have peaks at 85amps, with 2000w of peak power consumption for very short periods of time, that's why I kept burning bts7960 wired up individually, and that's also where the 5,4nm of stall torque comes from. You can also find this rating in the specs section in this page: robu.in/product/my1016-350w-dc-motor/
As you can see the stall torque is rated at 55.1 kg/cm which equals to 5.4nm, run that through the gearbox and you get a stall torque of 54 nm
@@DAZprojects Yeah, but the peak torque of your motor is 1.46Nm, not 1.8Nm and (as I already explained) the stall torque value you came up with (from I don't know where), is completely irrelevant. If I now calculate with 30% global gain and 40% ingame (don't know why you do that btw.) I get 2.16Nm, which would make even more sense.
Brother I have a question, would it be the same process even with settings if i use arduino uno but not arduino leonardo? Btw, the video is🔥
No, the Arduino Leonardo has a different processor from the uno, so they're not swappable
50 NM or whatever, its way compact and lovely looking, with your pedals. How is the responsiveness?
I think it's not comparable to a direct drive wheel, but the backlash is very low, latency is non existent. It probably would have been better with some belts instead of the gearbox, but still it's better than any gear driven entry level wheel
@@DAZprojects If you prefer belt drive, there should be some reason, but I believe this is a better idea because the forces from hand doesn't directly transfer to the motor and the motor might live longer....
Unfortunately the same torque from a single simple belt drive is hardly an option, however, a compound belt drive could be designed, and with your talent that will be a breeze... Waiting to witness that....
However man, I loved your pedals.... ♥️♥️♥️♥️
What motor is this?
My1016 motor
why not just use a stepper motor? it has gearbox, encoder and no need for belts
I honestly wasn't sure on what firmware to use so I just went for what I was sure would work
400for that? mmmmm. may as well get the cammus c5 with the pedals included its cheaper and its a dd and you get pedals too. or if you want more torque use a hub motor from ebike or hooverboard. the smallest hub motors of ebikes can do as much as 50nm so the smaller the better. and hub motor is one of the best feeling dd motors out there.
I know, I was thinking of using a hub motor but I had no idea about the software, if you know more on how to use them let me know, I would love to try building a better one
what was the total cost?
About 400$
oh thats pretty cool
@@DAZprojects
Bro
50Nm is completelly bulshit! I have Asetek Invicta with 27Nm and I cant finish one lap with full power, on Monza not able turn into first chicane
Read the previous comments, 50nm is the stall torque so it's not a wrong statement, it's just incomplete. Us as RUclipsr need to attract the attention in some way or the algorithm will not show our videos. I'm now working on a hoverboard based DD steering wheel and I'll be more scientific in that video since it's something I think more people will replicate being cheaper and overall better in any way then this one. Thanks for pointing that out 👍
@@DAZprojects Listen, my neighbors cousins ex-roommates' hamster belonged to a physics teacher in its past life... So I can tell you there's no way it's 50nm of force. My lawnmower is 45nm and It would rip that table to shreds. I see you're providing factual information and specifications that make a lot of sense but this means nothing to me and the rest of the commenters.
Nice work