Just read the script. There are several scenes not really featured in the extras. WB shortchanged the DVD/Blu-ray most likely b/c of the poor commercial performance. Hopefully, tho maybe years from now, Criterion can put this out & we'll have a surplus of more that happened within the story. Shame Criterion hasn't put out a single PTA movie.
PTA is the master of making movies that make you feel really lonely, nostalgic, and yearning for stuff you never even had. Such a strange yet unique quality.
I love how PTA cuts together leftover footage into these hypnotic sequences, like with the extra stuff from the master this material is so beautiful it makes u realize how brilliant he is; that he has so much incredible stuff filmed that his films don't miss the cut material
Matthew .Cholodewitsch Imagine you've probably found out by now, but otherwise search for The Master Back Beyond and the first result should be "20 minute deleted reel" or something.
@@GeorgeMillerUSA that's the quality of these kind of movies..... One can never expect the richness of the taste in the color, making and output at the end of the movie...... Great movies just come and go.....
Sortilege's line about "mischievous spirits" has me believe Thomas Pynchon knows a lot of this world. I think there's a good reason for his identity being kept so secretive.
I love this. Usually I don't care for extended "director's" cuts but this movie really needs one because of the richness of the novel on which it is based. All of these parts should be put back in. It's already 2hr30min long, but what the hell.
I'm pretty sure PTA was happy with the final cut, but I agree maybe it the film would have held together better if it was longer, however sadly I doubt producers would believe that they could get an audience for a version of Inherent Vice that was any longer.
Magnolia is 3 hours long and it flies by, so I am with you. I could easily watch a long extended and more lyrical cut of the movie, with more of those great passages like the one about the fog at the end. That must be up there as one of the greatest closing lines in English literature.
Robert Palmer I really wouldn't mind at all if this were longer so I'm with you there man plus I've noticed there's a few scenes that weren't in the movie got me wondering is there a lost directors cut or alternate scenes or just didn't make it to the final cut I hope it's the first 2 I mentioned
Love the shot at 3:18 . Its as if we are in Doc's brain looking through his iris, and here comes the yearning and the aching pain of a lost love (Shasta) slowly reaching us.
The dream is that Shasta, is up in the Cascades hiding out, high as the zenith, that's her namesake. The reality, is that she's at the bottom of the Pacific, that means peace, but there is none, without her, and them together.
Amazing novel and movie. This is cool. Some beautiful shots in these extras. I’d love it if PTA did another adaption of Pynchon’s work. Some say his novels can’t be adapted but I think with the right director they could be. Vineland would be a good movie for either PTA or the Coen Brothers to tackle. One day I’d love to see Gravity’s Rainbow, Mason & Dixon or Against the Day adapted but that would be a very very hard task.
This is so typically of the era,captured beautifully long hot slow summers chinese restaurants were the popular go to -Italian espresso introduced with garlic soaked pizza's foreign to the kiwi meat and potatos daily grind. - love the labrynthe of unanswered , the mind says whoa whats that? wat wat? I'm in love and addicted to this genre of movie making.The characters are suited to the actor
I miss all this cut material!!! It's an amazing book...imagine if for some reason it translated to mini-series and all this stuff from the book made it in there...I don't know, I dig the movie but damn, I would've loved all this extra stuff as part of the experience. One can wish, though.
Adam Donnelly You know, at first I wondered if I fell asleep while watching the movie as I didn't recognize any of this...but it would've vastly improved the movie had it all been in there, especially all that additional dialogue while driving in the fog at the ending. "Driving in a dense fog while smoking dope on some L.A. freeway" is a perfect description of the entire movie. That or "Dentists on trampolines".
Years before Inherent Vice, there was a fan film adaptation directed by Jeff Hoyt,with Orien Longo portraying sportello in the opening scene from the book. The Video was removed from RUclips if anyone knows about it, please send me the video.
The last shot is particularly haunting. It's gorgeously orchestrated, too. It's like Shasta is erased. I wonder if it was just too much of a downer, especially since this film was ostensibly supposed to be a bit more exuberant than his previous two films. Certainly it was marketed, at least initially, as a raucous, warm-vibed joyride of a movie.
It doesn't make as much sense as the one in the movie. Like the journey-to-nowhere, reconnecting-with-the-past, holding-a-free-spirit-at-arms-length ending we got.
@@davidfinlayson4041 I suspect they didn't go with this ending because it was just too much on the nose. Anderson wants to leave people wondering which is better, to deal with the fact that Shasta has actually been dead the entire movie and accept her loss and move on, or the ending they went with - Doc refusing to accept her death... possibly forever. I lost my daughter, my only child in 2015 when she was 19. When you love someone so much that you may be willing to delude yourself into believing they aren't gone...well that can be a powerful temptation. For example, there are mornings when I'll wake up after dreaming about her and for just a very short period of time I'll have forgotten she's gone. The moment I realize I've woken up and she's actually gone part of me desperately wants to go back to those few moments. In that split second I wish I could stay in that dream state forever.
actually I believe its the closing paragraphs. I could be wrong. I think this was an alternate ending. Its obviously the ending of the book but it adds a context to film that the DVD cut didn't. typical PTA. he would rather confound with his ending then wrap up a nice package. in this film it really leaves a deep sadness in the pit of your stomach. I loved this movie.
A fascinating, very entertaining experience for me. I simply got it. Best film of the year for me. I Iike what Tommy Lee Jones and John Torturro are doing as directors too. Films that have resonance.
This movie has always felt like the introverted cousin to Fear and Loathing, at least as far as the bleakness of the end of the hippie scene kinda goes.
Yeah, both films really captured how capitalism sucked the energy of the 60s to make profit of it. Fear and Loathing depicted how former hippies used drugs to alienate themselves from reality, as opposed to gain a higher understanding to live differently in real life. Inherent Vice depicted how there will always be an opportunity for profit as long as the American Dream is something to be escaped from.
Is there a symbolic meaning for meetings in Japanese/asian restaurants? Or is it just a Noir thing? I've seen it now in Inherent vice, Hail Caesar, The Long goodbye and others. Love these whole scene btw...like waking from a dream.
Nah. I mean could be, but most movies use that same Diner in Pulp fiction and dozens of other movies and change up the colors scheme. They do Asian in Hail Ceasar too. PTA, Kubrick, Coens are pretty deliberate directors. Could just be an atmospheric choice...but I tend to lean towards something else.
It's definitely an L.A motif thing. Asians, are very exotic and serve to expand on the world of movie. Noirs are very dependent on world building because you want to figure what elements are at play.
Could be an allusion to early 20th and 19th Century America where Asian (specifically Chinese) drug dens and brothels served as congregation centers for White American males to engage in sexual escapades, drug abuse, and an overall escape from their daily reality.
Diantres Films not sure which it is, but here's the track list: Track Listings Shasta Vitamin C Meeting Crocker Fenway Here Comes the Ho-Dads Spooks Shasta Fay Les Fleur The Chryskylodon Institute Sukiyaki Adrian Prussia Journey Through the Past Simba Under the Paving-Stones, the Beach! The Golden Fang Amethyst Shasta Fay Hepworth Any Day Now
Nice...this sequence and others did not appear in the official theatrical release....huh....stupid....this was the psychological meat of the interior psyche of Docs mind.....in removing it...much of the film made no unified statement...this NOW really TIES THE ROOM 2GETHTER......
Just read the script. There are several scenes not really featured in the extras. WB shortchanged the DVD/Blu-ray most likely b/c of the poor commercial performance. Hopefully, tho maybe years from now, Criterion can put this out & we'll have a surplus of more that happened within the story. Shame Criterion hasn't put out a single PTA movie.
Josh Brine They put out "Boogie Nights" on laserdisc.
+Josh Brine they almost definitely didn't shoot everything in the script
This being a PT Anderson movie, absolutely. He's known for coming up with new things on the day.
Brine Island they released the criterion bluray for Punch Drunk Love
no paul doesnt shoot most scenes in his script,
PTA is the master of making movies that make you feel really lonely, nostalgic, and yearning for stuff you never even had. Such a strange yet unique quality.
The Altman effect
Thomas Pynchon writes some of the most beautiful sentences in the English language.
I love how PTA cuts together leftover footage into these hypnotic sequences, like with the extra stuff from the master this material is so beautiful it makes u realize how brilliant he is; that he has so much incredible stuff filmed that his films don't miss the cut material
Zach Crosswait Do you have a link for the one he did with The Master>?
Matthew .Cholodewitsch Imagine you've probably found out by now, but otherwise search for The Master Back Beyond and the first result should be "20 minute deleted reel" or something.
Zach Crosswait I'd be fine if his movies were 4 hours and he just put nearly everything in.
@Unjustkitty Hey man,uh,I don't know if you still want this,but the video is called 'The Master-Back Beyond'.
I like how this whole thing seems to have a dream-like quality to it.
suncore598 I know right? Try Birdman, it gets pretty bizarre towards the end.
suncore598 completely.
PTA style, in The Master also
@@GeorgeMillerUSA that's the quality of these kind of movies..... One can never expect the richness of the taste in the color, making and output at the end of the movie...... Great movies just come and go.....
Love Inherent Vice. Love everything PTA does.
Sortilege's line about "mischievous spirits" has me believe Thomas Pynchon knows a lot of this world. I think there's a good reason for his identity being kept so secretive.
I love this. Usually I don't care for extended "director's" cuts but this movie really needs one because of the richness of the novel on which it is based. All of these parts should be put back in. It's already 2hr30min long, but what the hell.
I'm pretty sure PTA was happy with the final cut, but I agree maybe it the film would have held together better if it was longer, however sadly I doubt producers would believe that they could get an audience for a version of Inherent Vice that was any longer.
Magnolia is 3 hours long and it flies by, so I am with you. I could easily watch a long extended and more lyrical cut of the movie, with more of those great passages like the one about the fog at the end. That must be up there as one of the greatest closing lines in English literature.
Robert Palmer I really wouldn't mind at all if this were longer so I'm with you there man plus I've noticed there's a few scenes that weren't in the movie got me wondering is there a lost directors cut or alternate scenes or just didn't make it to the final cut I hope it's the first 2 I mentioned
Same goes for The Master.
Elias Hewson oh yeah same goes to tht one I could go for more scenes with Joaquin and Philip more
Love the shot at 3:18 . Its as if we are in Doc's brain looking through his iris, and here comes the yearning and the aching pain of a lost love (Shasta) slowly reaching us.
PTA is a genius. Every film he makes in modern cinema are classics. The Master my fav.
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The master de bomb for real
The pose in the last shot is really similar to the end of barton fink
I love silence and space. This why I love this movie. Just like how much I love Broken Flowers.
The dream is that Shasta, is up in the Cascades hiding out, high as the zenith, that's her namesake. The reality, is that she's at the bottom of the Pacific, that means peace, but there is none, without her, and them together.
Fear is the blood, spreading in the pool, causing the piranha to feed on each other ... that's what we're doing.
Amazing novel and movie. This is cool. Some beautiful shots in these extras. I’d love it if PTA did another adaption of Pynchon’s work. Some say his novels can’t be adapted but I think with the right director they could be. Vineland would be a good movie for either PTA or the Coen Brothers to tackle.
One day I’d love to see Gravity’s Rainbow, Mason & Dixon or Against the Day adapted but that would be a very very hard task.
I do believe Paul once said that he kind of wanted to do an adaption of one of his novels before inherent vice but for some reason he didn’t
@@mohamedashian604 parts of V inspired the Master, pretty clearly the Benny Profane character. Hes said that Vineland would make a good movie
honestly, the easiest Pynchon novel to make into a Hollywood movie that could actually be successful is crying of lot 49
"Doc! Yo tengo que get el f!ck out of aqui!"
That is gold. PTA definitely should have kept that in the movie.
Sean Barker what does it mean?
@@14AspenDrive "Doc! I have to get the fuck out of here"
This is so typically of the era,captured beautifully long hot slow summers chinese restaurants were the popular go to -Italian espresso introduced with garlic soaked pizza's foreign to the kiwi meat and potatos daily grind. - love the labrynthe of unanswered , the mind says whoa whats that? wat wat? I'm in love and addicted to this genre of movie making.The characters are suited to the actor
I miss all this cut material!!!
It's an amazing book...imagine if for some reason it translated to mini-series and all this stuff from the book made it in there...I don't know, I dig the movie but damn, I would've loved all this extra stuff as part of the experience. One can wish, though.
Adam Donnelly
You know, at first I wondered if I fell asleep while watching the movie as I didn't recognize any of this...but it would've vastly improved the movie had it all been in there, especially all that additional dialogue while driving in the fog at the ending. "Driving in a dense fog while smoking dope on some L.A. freeway" is a perfect description of the entire movie.
That or "Dentists on trampolines".
I love this movie! Can't wait to see the extended.
Years before Inherent Vice, there was a fan film adaptation directed by Jeff Hoyt,with Orien Longo portraying sportello in the opening scene from the book. The Video was removed from RUclips if anyone knows about it, please send me the video.
no shit? that's awesome
Um, that never happened.
It would be best for you if you just pretended it didn't exist.
why?
It would be best.
4:24 Perfect shot.
Dreamy
this movie should be studied like literature
This movies pretty dense, but I dunno if its any deeper than what it is. Its definitely good.
aeroces7 if thats how you feel then you should watch it again.
Dakota Taylor absolutely. James Brolin or Josh? I can't remember. Says there's a scene where Pynchon makes an appearance.
that's because you know it is literature
Why not just study the book like literature?
joanna newsom audibook version now
Too bad that PTA didnt used this ending. The last shot is so powerful.
The last shot is particularly haunting. It's gorgeously orchestrated, too. It's like Shasta is erased. I wonder if it was just too much of a downer, especially since this film was ostensibly supposed to be a bit more exuberant than his previous two films. Certainly it was marketed, at least initially, as a raucous, warm-vibed joyride of a movie.
It doesn't make as much sense as the one in the movie. Like the journey-to-nowhere, reconnecting-with-the-past, holding-a-free-spirit-at-arms-length ending we got.
@@davidfinlayson4041 I suspect they didn't go with this ending because it was just too much on the nose. Anderson wants to leave people wondering which is better, to deal with the fact that Shasta has actually been dead the entire movie and accept her loss and move on, or the ending they went with - Doc refusing to accept her death... possibly forever.
I lost my daughter, my only child in 2015 when she was 19. When you love someone so much that you may be willing to delude yourself into believing they aren't gone...well that can be a powerful temptation. For example, there are mornings when I'll wake up after dreaming about her and for just a very short period of time I'll have forgotten she's gone. The moment I realize I've woken up and she's actually gone part of me desperately wants to go back to those few moments. In that split second I wish I could stay in that dream state forever.
Too cliche.
@@MikeSW i personally love the real ending
love the side-burns ~~~!
I remember the Fog...
What happened to the world
With dew still on it
I want that suit Josh Brolin is wearing!
all the spoken words in this clip are directly from the book
actually I believe its the closing paragraphs. I could be wrong. I think this was an alternate ending. Its obviously the ending of the book but it adds a context to film that the DVD cut didn't. typical PTA. he would rather confound with his ending then wrap up a nice package. in this film it really leaves a deep sadness in the pit of your stomach. I loved this movie.
Marty Leonard agreed
Somehow this vid made me cry
so beautiful, so sad, so misterious.... BASICALLY LIFE
surprised he didn't use this ending.
Me too, or Atleast the narration which is straight from the final pages of the book
The final pages of the book are incredible. Might be my favorite piece of writing
A Three Hour Tour ;)
Nicolas Prado!!!!!!!!!
Fuckin' hell this is beautiful
Fucking Hong Chau needs to get her due already, the woman is a prestige actress who deserves bigger roles
A fascinating, very entertaining experience for me. I simply got it. Best film of the year for me. I
Iike what Tommy Lee Jones and John Torturro are doing as directors too. Films that have resonance.
Brilliant.
Is that Thomas Pynchon making his cameo at 0:47 to 0:49 "rigid, unsmiling"?
Oh there it is perhaps.
If so, he also appears behind Coy and Doc around the pivotal question at The Boards' party --
yup
i always thought so! based on the few photos
major oversight not to include that Bigfoot dialogue in the final cut. come on
wait so what is this? the deleted scenes? why does it flow together so well?
@Reservoir Frogs I’m an idiot, are all these scenes actually in the movie just not in the order presented?
joanna newsom
Fear should be running this country
this movie fucked my head
I Obviously love this movie (it's my damn profile image) and this was a treat!
Alexander Miller why?
515am north side of Mt Shasta
Beautiful morning
Ya know it feels just like the video
Right Now
This movie has always felt like the introverted cousin to Fear and Loathing, at least as far as the bleakness of the end of the hippie scene kinda goes.
Yeah, both films really captured how capitalism sucked the energy of the 60s to make profit of it.
Fear and Loathing depicted how former hippies used drugs to alienate themselves from reality, as opposed to gain a higher understanding to live differently in real life.
Inherent Vice depicted how there will always be an opportunity for profit as long as the American Dream is something to be escaped from.
Is there a symbolic meaning for meetings in Japanese/asian restaurants? Or is it just a Noir thing? I've seen it now in Inherent vice, Hail Caesar, The Long goodbye and others.
Love these whole scene btw...like waking from a dream.
I think it's just because there's a lot of asian restaurants out in LA.
Nah. I mean could be, but most movies use that same Diner in Pulp fiction and dozens of other movies and change up the colors scheme. They do Asian in Hail Ceasar too. PTA, Kubrick, Coens are pretty deliberate directors. Could just be an atmospheric choice...but I tend to lean towards something else.
It's definitely an L.A motif thing. Asians, are very exotic and serve to expand on the world of movie. Noirs are very dependent on world building because you want to figure what elements are at play.
Could be an allusion to early 20th and 19th Century America where Asian (specifically Chinese) drug dens and brothels served as congregation centers for White American males to engage in sexual escapades, drug abuse, and an overall escape from their daily reality.
its actually a song
+ « Extraordinary Cast !! » 100% X3
Hong Chau would make a great Mantis for gotg
What is the song name ? please
Diantres Films not sure which it is, but here's the track list:
Track Listings
Shasta
Vitamin C
Meeting Crocker Fenway
Here Comes the Ho-Dads
Spooks
Shasta Fay
Les Fleur
The Chryskylodon Institute
Sukiyaki
Adrian Prussia
Journey Through the Past
Simba
Under the Paving-Stones, the Beach!
The Golden Fang
Amethyst
Shasta Fay Hepworth
Any Day Now
Is this scene in the movie??
0:47
Don’t know why he cut out all the shots that make the movie feel more lived in instead of the constant closeups.
JoshBrolin is the only thing keeps itPynchon
Imagine watching this without context
is owen wilson wearing a Sturmtruppen jacket?
Its as complicated as a beach
2:56 thats a Wolverine impersonation if I ever saw one...
saw this movie on HBO don't recall any of this.
It is a deleted scene.
2:27
2:22
Nice...this sequence and others did not appear in the official theatrical release....huh....stupid....this was the psychological meat of the interior psyche of Docs mind.....in removing it...much of the film made no unified statement...this NOW really TIES THE ROOM 2GETHTER......
2:44