STOP doing THESE THINGS and making life HARDER for EVERYONE! | Warhammer 40k: DARKTIDE
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Darktide, for its flaws right now, is an extremely fun game to play - that is, until your teammates start becoming a source of frustration and annoyance. Here are some of the MOST annoying habits I've experienced during my time playing Darktide. I hope that this video at least brings awareness, a place to vent, and provides a little bit of advice on addressing some of these habits.
May the God-Emperor protect.
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0:00 Intro
0:51 Loot
1:36 Rushing Ahead
2:40 Not Sticking
4:22 No Tag
5:13 Too Much Tag
6:14 Flashlight
6:58 Ammo Goblin
7:46 Hoarding
9:04 Utility
10:19 Objective!
11:54 Special Outro
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It's annoying when someone blows up a buster that your obviously about to push
Stop fucking pushing busters you don't need to roleplay a lore accurate Ogryn
I swear the amount of people who just run at everything in this game and then act like the people who know when to play slow and utilise range are the problem is ridiculous
Sincerely: psyker you can clearly see channelling on the fucking burster
Agreeeeed!
Yes x1000
It's annoying when someone is about to push a buster when your obviously about to blow it up. Do you really have to run 20 meters to blow it up when it's safely about to be popped? Works both ways my dude.
I've watched so many players get killed by people who do this haha
Dont you love it when a speed runner flies ahead and gets jumped by a hound or trapper. Its like glorious karmic justice
The God-Emperor works in mysterious ways to punish those that would run afoul by Him!
There should be a special place in hell for speedrunners in team games.
Oh god I dealt with one of those today and got jumped by a group of hounds. Literally died before we even go up to him.
Its best when they immediately disconnect after dying
@@cmdrpanorpa8631 I know right, they fuk up and then ragequit cause noone helped them in time.
The not sticking together and the running ahead is what drives me insane.
I have been told I am a bad player for wanting my team to stick together.
But it's probably the biggest reason why matches I play in fail.
I was just in a match that I eventually gave up because the two zealots just ran ahead as fast as they could and I had to keep dealing with the trickle hordes at the back and kept getting charged by Muties.
Someone even said to me that coherency is "anti-team play".
I hate some PuGs.
Whoever said that to you is just a plain idiot. The game literally punishes the whole team when you dont stick tight.
This is why I avoid running anything past T2 outside of organized groups who are communicating.
@@CdrChaos Randoms in Auric damnation are so much more enjoyable than base damnation randoms. Most of the time they stick together but you do get the stray zealot that thinks he can tank a horde, 20 heavy shooters, and 5 shield ogryn all at once. It's fun to tell the rest of the team to sit back and let him get chewed up for a bit, either he dies and learns his lesson or he clears an annoying section of the mission for you. Mostly the former.
@@isThreeman Auric Maelstrom is where you get the fewest of these types. They just don't survive there, there is no chance of survival if you're alone depending on the modifiers.
I don't know what it is about Darktide that causes this. I have just under 900 hours on VT2 and it's very rare to see games where the players don't at least make a barebones effort to keep track of where their team is. Rushers are extremely infrequent and most of the time you'll even have teammates come to reinforce you if you get stuck at the rear taking on enemies.
Meanwhile on Darktide, where you're pressured even harder to stick together because of Coherency, I see people splitting up all the time. I've almost never had teammates come to help when I get stuck defending against an attack from the rear, they usually just keep moving forwards and leave me behind. Rushers appear in pretty much half the games I play, though thankfully they generally don't bitch and moan when they go down and blame the team for not being there for them (I've seen this happen in both VT2 and Darktide, but it's extremely rare).
Dealing with these Varlets behaviours for centuries explains why Hadron is so grumpy and annoyed
Absolutely. Bet she blows a fuse regularly 😂
I didn’t know that flashlights could trigger daemonhosts I thought it was only attacking or getting to close
Same here, good to know👍
Yeah I'm not sure that's true either. I've put in over 200 hours since launch, and I mained a gun psyker for most of them and always left the light on. After learning you're not supposed to fight them, I've only ever woken up daemonhosts by getting thrown into them by pox bursters or nearby barrels.
it is you have to shine it directly on the host. @@vokkera6995
lmao i didnt even know i can turn of my flashlight XD
Guess its to make dark runs even harder 😲
You missed the Ogryn perching himself in front of the Veteran when he has just activated his special and is trying to clean up the shooters.
Or running through the veteran's back and appearing in front of him while he is aiming down sights and about to shoot the Sniper
This is the worst. So many ogryns love to stand inside ranged players. Especially the slab shield ones, they thing they're protecting you, but they're actually closing the only line of fire to the enemy at times
I get why they wanted an Ogryn in the game for thematic reasons but honestly it's a shockingly stupid move to even have Ogryns in the first place. This is a game where you need to see enemies and shoot at them. Who the hell thought it was a good idea to have giant slabs of meat blocking your view? Just more evidence Fatshark doesn't QA their games at all
@@sulphuric_glue4468TBF, it is also a game where you charge at your enemies and then hit them with alarming weapons.
Well in most games i play i tend to notice the sniper before our veterans do i run slab shield mostly cause i like the sweeping heavy attack and the ability to block bullets. Usually whenever we have open mic i get thanked for the fact that i jump in the way of a sniper shot to block it that nobody saw coming. The other day i was playing that one mission where you have to get the ammo off the train and load it into the big box at the top of the stairs. There was a sniper that spawned in the room we came from that we dropped down from he was in the perfect spot hiding behind a console in the room only thing you could see was his head and his elbow i couldn't kill him due to the limited range of the grenade gauntlet so i had to sit there in the defensive stance blocking shot after shot after shot i kept marking him and our veterans one with the slowest firing las gun and the other with the slowest firing recon las gun wouldn't bother to shoot him while i had him focused on me. It was our psyker that had to handle it. She hid behind me and kept flinging explosive orbs at the sniper from 60 meters away trying to hit him. She killed him after about 13 seconds of flinging orbs. I wanna also add that the sniper had shot both of our veterans at least once before trying to shoot me cause they ran out of his line of sight. This was a heresy hi intensity engagement zone btw
the number of lore accurate ogryns that keep the ammo crate for the entire round when the vets don't have a single bullet left, man i love randos
Lol "lore accurate Ogryn" I love that. Much more classy than dropping the R word on them. Which for the record, also describes them.
Not my Ogryn I try to share at an appropriate place. That said i'll take the medipack in preference to the ammo.
If someone is left behind, the rest of the team should be turning back for them. I can't count the amount of times I've been cut off by bombers/fire barrels etc and have everyone else just go off and that nearly always ends up with me having to fight off waves by myself before I can even start to move up. It's not always in somebody's control to keep up, so please watch your team, it's just as much your responsibility. Also a big pet peeve is when someone goes down nobody even stops to look. It only takes a half second of enemies popping up behind someone squishy to down them, not to even mention people not even trying to clear the group off of their body. ESPECIALLY when they are right next to you. This is a team-based game, so try to keep an eye on people. That person you may have left for dead might have pulled off the clutch play that otherwise kills the rest of the team 2 minutes later. Some others here have also commented on this but PLEASE a glowing blue head isn't your target. Especially if it's on a small guy the Psyker is probably just trying to keep their warp charges, or trying to proc their Essence Harvest toughness refill. Blue head is NOT saying "shoot me!"
Agreed. UNLESS....its become something that keeps happening over and over. At that point it means that theyre probably fucking about and not trying to stick with the team so theyre causing more issues. But in the main, i totally agree. Im a vet, and i a sniper, and I often get caught in the back cos I usually have no close combat support and everyone has run off without me because whatever was in front of us is dead. But they dont look behind us and see the mob rushing down the corridor as they run away. Ive died many a time trying to catch up to my team with a mob of Nurgle Cultists on my heels.
If someone is left behind it is because they are fucking around and not sticking with the team. If I have to turn around to rescue your dumbass cause you thought it was smart to leave the group, then I’d leave you to your fate before mocking you for being dumb.
People suddenly getting downed by a surprised horde is exactly the reason why I made my vet build centered around support and melee dps. If I notice someone get downed, I try my best to cut into the horde so I can get close enough to auto revive them with commanding voice.
Oh yeah I'm loving that build with my vet too. Feels WAY more survivable and team-friendly than it used to@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639
I've had entire runs with veterans that seemed to make it their personnal mission to kill my brain burst targets and I took that very, very personnally :
The med pack one is kinda funny. Ending the round with 2 or 3 of them makes me feel dumb every time. At least the pilot gets to enjoy the stims with us.
It's like in a game of Magic, when you lose with cards in your hand. Feels bad and usually means you made errors.
Well, sometimes it's easy mode, and you don't even need them. Yeah even in Damnation. If it's not High Intensity, and you have good players, you can end up with most of your resources intact. Happens on Enclavum Baross for some reason. That finale is a joke.
Well if you all lived maybe u didnt need them lol
Once you have learned when and where the finale is you can just dumb everything at that point, you will not need it afterwards.
the worst part about people who rush ahead is that the director actively fights them by spawning specials to pin them down while they are away. (or at the very least, the directive is more aggressive towards them) which in turn just creates even more problems for the team overall
At lower difficulties, hounds all over the place, then trappers, and I don't even want to think of what it decides to spam after that...
5 crushers
Yep, when a psyker and i got to the end yard we got several crushers on level 2 because the two zealots who were speed running spawned them at the end.
One gripe of mine that annoys me to no end is when people trigger the demonhost unnecessarily. I get being new to the game and I will give them a pass. If you are an experienced player, however, I immediately get annoyed. Had one game where a demonhost was in the path directly in front of us, but the path to the left and right were clear. Someone ran in, triggered the host, and ran back to the rest of us. We were trying to manage it AND all of the enemies around. Flamers, muties, a hound, and a mauler all at once. What ended up killing us is a trapper took out the ogryn and the horde closing in made it impossible for any of us to get in and revive him without being interrupted. The guy that alerted the host said that we suck and that we are terrible for not helping him more with the host when the loss could have been avoided ENTIRELY just by waiting an extra 20 seconds at most for us to clear out the special enemies. Always check with your team about the host unless you are absolutely certain you can solo it like Gregor Eisenhorn.
Agreed! Thankfully, most randoms I've played with tend to avoid it - unless its a preacher with Thunder Hammer. They like to test their mettle with a demonhost and most of the time it works out. Most of the time...
@@rykenxiv That's a Paladin vs Demon moment right there.
Plus theirs NO REWARD for killing a Host none.
@@zestfisher565 Actually there is, I think - they count as Monstrosities. One of Melk's tasks is killing some of them. Do da math.
(But seriously, clear the crowd before getting the star.)
@Siberian I love when people ask. It shows that there is actual forethought behind it and it gives everyone else a chance to get ready for it
My god 'picking up materials less valuable than faster map completion', nice to see that straight up. Some of us are still crafting 😅
Also the number of people not slowing down in difficult sections is astounding. There are, and this may be surprising, even more enemies ahead!
Oh yeah I have way too much Diana time but I’m always at like 500 plasteel then I’m left far behind lookin for boxes n shit
LOL You did an amazing job of not sounding as annoyed as some of those things can be. I've just recently started to do Heresy, and I've actually noticed that the higher up the difficulties you get, the less of these things there are. Especially the staying grouped up part. Thanks for putting this out there for folks, because you are right, I'm sure there are plenty of folks that just didn't realise what they were doing.
"the higher up the difficulties you get, the less of these things there are."
Very true, because the game will murder those fools without pity or mercy, and since most of these players are fragile china teacups without self-reflection or ability to improve, they can't stick around in that difficulty. So they dribble back to Malice, like treacle flowing downhill.
Yeap - difficulties are filters and they soon realize there places ain't gonna take terrible habits without punishing you!
@@spamhere1123The amount of arrogancr speaking about a vide mo game is crazyyy
As a veteran, few things are more aggravating than starting to shoot at enemies only for allies to run in front of me and soak all the shots.
The most annoying thing ive seen people do is either wanting to kick someone in the middle of a fight. This means the entire team is now disabled from playing and gets them killed. Some "teammate", i call him reject donkey, wanted to kick someone who was "playing too slow" and got me killed as i was 1milsec away from dealing with a dog, flamer and bulwark...
Or be the guy that's like "get over here or get kicked" as im looking for mats or ammo... god i wanna stangle some asshats sometimes
People don't seem to know that you can still tag enemies when you are downed (except by hound) It helps the people coming to rescue you. For me speed runners always tend to trigger plague ogryns or beasts of nurgle and get battered by the time the rest of ye catch up.
Also on the hound problem, as a workaround fix use the tagging wheel to place a red skull marker by the hound.
Being grabbed by a mutant also prevents you from tagging enemies until you are thrown
You can tag hounds when they are on you, its finicky but move the camera around and spam tag and it will work
Going off by yourself seems to be to be more harshly punished than in V2. At least in the higher difficulties the game won't hesitate to drop 4 disablers on you if you go off alone.
1: TAG TAG TAG. When in doubt...TAG. So many players never tag high priority enemies, on all levels these can wipe your group fast. This is even a really bad issue on Damnation where players should know better.
2: Positioning, don't fight it the open where you get surrounded easily, especially on High Intensity Shock Troop!
2 things:
When people chase the fight; this sounds weird but hear me out. During objectives or hold out moments when people go and fight pushing toward the npc spawns and separate from the group. If you are a zealot or ogryn you dont need to keep pushing, the npc's will come to you. Stay close to your elite killers because if the veteran has to pull their melee weapon out to survive they cant kill the elites.
Also mind where you are in relation to enemies especially ogryns, I cannot use the lucius lasgun if there is a ogryn in my group, 6 of my 10 shots will be into the ogryn becuase they are somehow always in front of me taking the shot. melee has way more reach than you think use it and make sure your shooters have a clear line of fire to kill elites.
"Finish a mission on heresy or higher in under 20 minutes to get this fancy looking armor. no no don't stop for loot. Rush ahead and don't worry about that down teammate who was cover your backs"
"Hey when playing as the ranged class Don't miss a shot the whole mission to get this fancy piece of clothes , no dont try and wall bang that pox hound on your teammate, you might miss."
"Keep overheating your spell charge repeatedly blowing yourself up until you finally kill enough elites to get this item set, be an annoyance to your squad"
*people proceed to play like selfish dek wads and ignore teamplay.
"Keep overheating your spell charge repeatedly blowing yourself up until you finally kill enough elites to get this item set, be an annoyance to your squad"
Fucking hell thank you for saying it. I was hanging out in the ship, looking at what i wanted to upgrade or not, and what penance I was close to complete, when a random player invited me. So i joined and it was a team of 3 people already, they voted for a Damnation difficulty and since i haven't done many of these I wa thrilled to be able to run one with a full team.
We complete the whole thing, I somehow manage to get my penance done by that time, but before we extract the guy who invited me ask question like "why did you got down so much" or "you should have stayed with us" when they were running around like madlads leaving me to deal with the adds they didn't want to kill. Then he just kicks me off the team before we can leave.
I swear to God, some of the penances you have to complete for certain cosmetic items is ridiculous. I'm looking at you Psyker witch shroud.
@@patrickferryman6579 This is so true. I was trying for the veterans "Make every shot count" and just couldn't stand it. They make you play selfishly rather than work with the team, its frustratingly difficult to complete and i hated feeling like i wasn't being beneficial to my squad. I personally decided im not going to bother with that one til its one of the very last ones i have. I ended up going back and running a few games on Sedition every night i was trying for it just to calm down and have some fun with a bit of easy slaughter. They gotta do something about these. Make them not so narrow a margin of error so people still actually work with the team while getting them
I got the pysker one by accident on my first game of using a pysker. I blew myself up by accident and just happened to be surrounded by elites/specials. 😂
@@DirtRidingLarrysame, wasn’t even trying to do that penance, I was trying to do a different one at the time
"DO NOT LOSE MY SERVOSKULL!!!!" - Still the funniest line if you stray too far from Hadron's ServoSkull.
I... feel like I'm part of the problem with medpacks/ammo boxes. I psyker main, and when things get randomly hectic - as in a horde spawns in while we're dealing with a tough mix of elites/specials - I tend to... just forget the medpack/ammo box because I'm too busy fighting for my life. I have to remember to not forget! Oops...
I tag, rather than pick up ammo boxes when I'm psyker, for exactly that reason. I don't need them, so I'll probably forget to deploy them.
To be honest, your teammates always have the ability to use their comm wheel and tell you that they need either healing or ammo. So it's not entirely your fault, anyone can get carried away sometimes.
Same haha and I play as a veteran
@@fadeintoyou5341 lol
Yeah, you'd think a veteran would be like, "I need some am- Wait! I HAVE some ammo!"
I always feel bad when I have to wander off because 2 or 3 other players aren't bothering to look for materials. I can't tell you how many malice or heresy missions where its like they think the game is on a countdown timer.
Teams that push all the time, when sometimes you just have to slow down and deal with the hoards around you. Same with teams who push and I (usually the Psyker) am still fighting a long stream of hoard/specials coming from behind.
I am a big proponent of pushing objectives, but if you leave your Psyker or Vet behind because they are fighting for their lives, your objective push was pointless. Move as a team. Whenever I play a class like my Preacher I always try to think, "Where would I want me to be if I was the back line guy?"
Ogryns and Preachers who are CONVINCED they need to spend the entire match shooting things when I as a Vet or Psyker need you up front not in the back with me.
Ogryns can struggle to stay on the frontline due to the shooter enemys
Dude i feel like as psyker we get punished the most by this as backline dps when theyre zergrushing through vents and you have to just sprint through and hope you dont get slowed and trapped because the Zealot is flying through it irks my nerves like no other
I play a glass cannon Vet and the amount of times I'm cleaning out an area of elites and shooters before we drop down, only to realize that my entire team just left me behind is enough to give me some problems I swear to god. "You deserve to die, you should have moved up with us!" girl, the entire killfeed is my name right now and I got charged because I thought you guys were with me to cover me, at least tell me you are moving up with a ping so I know to start catching up
7:10
New penance: Nuisance
"Complete a mission without letting anyone else pick up ammo."
Reward: A jacket made entirely out of bullets.
Praise be with you ! You are teaching the words of the emperor. I cannot stress enough how important sticking with your team is. Even on malice. You will just inhabit wrong practices, and then you will blame your "ShItTy TeAm" for not rescuing you on damnation when you are 100 meters, 2 stairs, 2 bulwarks, 3 sharpshooters and 14 flamers away, and you just walked blindly into a scab trapper.
I can guarantee you, the only reason why you still find a team on damnation difficulty is because the people cannot block you.
There are definitely some... questionable people that are playing in Damnation.. I understand a lack of combat skill - that might be simply just being unfamiliar or haven't got enough hours in the game. But having basic cooperative skills and teamwork is mostly independent of skill.. But yea! Totally agree with the last statement haha
I could use some advice here.
I'm an Ogryn, and early on a Vet told me that I was blocking their shots. I didn't want to get in the way, so I got me a Stubber and a Rumbler and started providing backline support (Artillery, Horde-breaking, suppression, you know), sometimes I rush in to help, Lead the Charge or reposition, but I'd always be keepin' an eye on my teammates. This was good for awhile, especially since I could easily shoot over the lil' uns. But mid-way through a damnation mission another Vet said I wasn't being aggressive enough. Said that seeing Ogryns hanging back with a stub left a bad taste in their mouths. Made me feel like I wasn't a real Ogryn. So I tried to be more aggressive. Pushed forward whenever I could, always swinging and only going back to help someone or grab some loot. I was worried this was going to get me killed or make my team mad, but it all worked out in the end and the Vet said I did a good job.
Now I don't know what to do.
Just play your game, there are a few basics like don’t stand in the middle of the door if a vet is back there shooting. I play all the classes and I just reposition if I can’t see past an ogryn. No big deal really.
RC is right but i would reaffirm you that dont worry if you block the view i mean yes its good to keep in mind but thats a lesser problem i would say a comfy pushing ogryn is everyones dream
If a veteran isn't good enough to shoot around you, then that's a shitty veteran, and you shouldn't listen to them.
But as someone whose been playing as an Ogryn for a couple of weeks now, and doing quite well on Damnation, I will say, you also can't be too aggressive either. On Damnation, it really seems like the gunners are always shooting at you, and that can quickly wipe out your toughness, which will then quickly wipe out your health.
I've found that the Genadier Gauntlet to be the best weapon for the Ogryn in Damnation. You can take out snipers and other gunners at a distance if you need to, you can one-shot a lot of enemies at close range, you can take out and/or stagger hordes, you stagger Bulwarks, which makes it easy for your teammates to finish off the kill, and it is pretty ammo efficient, especially for the amount of damage it does.
But what I've found really makes or breaks the Ogryn on Damnation is the melee weapon. At first, I was using only the shield and maul, and very much wasn't playing aggressively, so that I could use the shield to not get shot. But my roommate, who I play Dark Tide with, let me know about the Confident Strike blessing. That allows you to quickly regenerate toughness, which allows you to play much more agressively. On Damnation low-intensity, I can use any melee weapon with the Confident Strike blessing. On standard Damnation, I usually use either the bull butcher cleaver, or the shield and maul. With how quickly you can swing the bull butcher, you can take gun fire and possibly not lose any health. If you know how to properly use the shield and maul, and you are almost always in coherency, you can slay with it.
So do both whatever the situation calls for and play off your teammates. If your out front the vets just have to shoot around you. If there a a bunch of gunners drop back a lil and let the vets shoot them.
@@rchelipilot3581 don’t listen to this guy he doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground. Lol😊
This should be put on the Darktide Launcher under "Tips for Beginners"! This is awesome info man. I've been playing since beta and I seriously never knew about the flashlight with the demonhost, lol. Appreciate that little bit of info. I run into the "ammo goblins" ALOT in Vermintide where they turn into "Pot Goblins".....ANNOYING! May the Emperor's light always shine on you.
If he labels tips and tricks, it will automatically be ignored by those types of selfish bastards.
It's funny, in a recent game I played with two vets who wouldn't stop flaming each other and calling each other bad, because one of them wanted to speedrun the entire map ignoring everything except enemies directly in front of them, and the other one wanted to excruciatingly search every single nook and cranny of the map for loot. I, the ogryn, just told them "team doing great job, good work sah"
Had two folks arguing over resources today. One said I've got 5k worth and the other said but not everyone has !!!! The latter was right. Just because they played for 12 moths doesnt mean all have.
@@cyberleaderandy1yeah fr I always check everywhere. Might even find a crate of ammo or heals. It's always worth checking, and its frustrating when the team just moves on. It also makes me feel like a burden, if the team has to wait for me in an airlock as I look for ammo and such. Why not stock up? If we move into a rough patch, I will spend like 2/3 of my ammo
Players ditching a single team member while they are fending off a hoard of enemies to sprint away to the next objective or area to pick up plasteel is another one. Very few players seems to understand how to push a flank in an engagement or provide cover in a situation that requires fire & movement to progress to the next area
I feel your pain bro, sometimes i leave mission cuz ppl rushing and not sticking together, and when u ask them nicely not to rush so hard, some become toxic 😂
PSA, there are also pyskers I've played with that just utterly refuse to use brain burst even in situations that would have been phenomally more useful than attempting to use the staff, I've had a pysker get out of cover to get closer to the gunners to use surge on them and going down because of this instead of just using brain burst to pop them both. The reason? "Brain Burst is to slow"
These are people who clicked on Psyker instead of Vet during character creation process but are too invested to turn back now..
Just wanted to say thanks for this comment, as it has improved my gameplay. As a new player, I found swapping to BB made me nervous if there were many enemies on screen. But your comment made me realise that playing "cautious" wasn't just impacting me. I've since become much more agressive with BB and it has been really satisfying along with the performance improvement.
They could've just used Psykinetic Barrage to mitigate it if they're lvl 30.
@@datkhornedog899 if only they would.
I could kind of get that, as iaijly used brian burst alt fire as my main way of using it, and only a while ago did i learn/re-learn that the primary fire for brain burst is quick but requires lock on to charge, and alt fire allows you to buffer it to insta pop someone but takes longer to wind up. That psyker likely thought the same. Still doesn't excuse him not using it at all though.
Gotta love the teammate that takes point and goes out of their way to detonate every explosive in sight so that the team coming behind them get hit, and will do so no matter the severity of the situation, so that when you actually encounter a horde, everyone except for them is on half health already, or better yet, you're about to be overwhelmed and suddenly you're on fire as well
I didn't know about the daemonhost and their sensitivity to flashlights! Thankyou for this wonderful psa video
Happy to help!
I love it when you have to tote around fuel cells and your team is doing anything but sticking with you to cover your now vulnerable b...ackside. And then insults you for not getting that fuel cell to where it belongs, because you are dead.
Ammo Goblin is such a frustration for me, Just my last match, a Zealot with a melee build keep taking ammo, while my Veteran have to run around with a shovel...
A lot of this was the same in vermintide ( looking at you elf players) and fat shark came up with a good mechanic, the coherency to literally make you stronger when you stick together and people somehow still make it way harder than it needs to be.
Late to the video, but something that helped me get out of the habit of holding onto medpacks/ammo, waiting for that golden moment to use it. Holding onto it and never using it has the same exact effect in the end as if you never had it at all. A medpack deployed at an inopportune time is 100x better than one held onto and never used, if you feel like “maybe right now it might be good to use”, do it instead of hesitating and holding it for later
When you're playing as Zealot or Ogryn and the 2 Vets or Psykers on your team just ignore all the ranged ads and specials. I just *love* being the horde killer, ranged killer and elite killer all at the same time. *Not.*
Intrusive thoughts of "shoot something! ANYTHING!" persist.
Holy crap that first one literally had me say out loud, "Oh my god Yes!". I agree with almost all of your points minus one.
Binding the left click to tagging. Each player can tag so it isn't just one persons job to be tagging, everyone should be. I rather have over tagging than none at all in general.
Sure tag the one that is the highest priority until everyone is focusing on it might as well have other things tagged in the background that you are dealing with such as the beast of nurgle. There can be other specials wooping on the team while you are fighting that and are not being dealt with either.
People blocking all your shots by standing in front of you. I've lost 50% ammo to bad teammates or makes it so you lose your vet feat. I'm sometimes guilty of this too when playing zealot or ogryn, but after a while I got better at positioning at chokes and hallways to minimize functioning as a shield for the enemies
Another quick tip for deamon hosts also, if you have a weapon which causes supression. You only need to shoot near it to trigger it rather than a direct hit
It's crazy how many people still didn't know to not touch the deamonhost. Then JFJ released his guide and it became abit better.
Thank you SO much for this! I have to admit that I am guilty of some of these occasionally and your video makes me more aware of them. Peace out bro and great job!
I have, several times, walked forward at the beginning of a mission while looking at my phone, falling and hanging off the edge immediately.
1 thing, flashlights wont alert a deamon host till your close enough that walking will also slert them, so it doesnt matter so long as you path around the thing like your supposed to anyway
Nice video, and love the outro!
Glad to know that the only thing I'm really doing wrong is not tagging at all. Easily fixable.
> Not Doing the objective.
Last night I had to drag the coolant up from the middle while half the group camped the exit and burned all the resources faffing off by themselves. I had one guy helping at least, from a vantage point above on the catwalks, but nobody was helping me get the coolant up through the zergs, or killing the specials mobbing me. That we completed those objectives is one of the harder carry jobs I've done.
I personally hate so much when my teammates hit the daemon host without warning. Especially when the mission is already hard af.
thank you for this. to many ppl not picking up stuff and running ahead/not staying with team sucks.
Thank you for bringing up the point of left click tagging and NOT to do it, I haven't encountered it yet but I know how annoying it would be and a lot of other people seem to have encountered them before.
While waking the Daemonhost is already a bad idea, IF you are going to do it, know how to deal with it and make sure the team knows.
Since I have returned, there has been literally only one single time when the PUG I was with tried to avoid the Daemonhost at all. It did fail, but we handled it well. Every other time even when it was highlighted, they just attacked it and then had no idea what to do about it in Malice+
I'm glad I've had some luck then on quick play we m o s t l y avoid them but there are those few.
@@johndortheknight4802 Yeah I had more luck closer to Beta but lately....
Great video. I have nearly 200 hours in this game and was unaware of some of the things you mentioned. This information should be provided in the game I think since it's incredibly useful and important for people to know.
I had one guy pull a daemonhost when literally the rest of the team said no when asked. He asked us if we wanted to do it and then ignored our answers.
Then he complained that we "abandoned" him and the other guy that got killed. He even tried to argue that we "weren't playing with the team" despite the fact that he ignored the entire team saying no. This idiot thought *he* was the team.
Thank you so much for the flashlight tip.. i had no idea i was doing that.
I don't know if its just my games lately or anyone else has experienced this, but something happens to players, even high level ones where their brain just "shuts off" when someone goes down to a sniper. Inevitably, someone else will wonder over, WITHOUT dealing with the sniper and try to revive the downed player, resulting in them getting sniped too...and then...you guessed it, the THIRD player will mosey on over and do the SAME. Now three people are on the ground in a snipers sight line. I've seen it happen enough times that a sniper in certain maps especially during the end game sequence fills me with absolute dread. Doubly if i notice my team doesn't prioritize taking them down. (The never tag them either)
The other one is not getting the trapper net off a downed teammate, it takes half a second and theyre immediately up and fighting. People will chase a trapper to the end of the level before getting the net off you.
couldnt agree more with your points. I hope a lot of people with watch it and take those tips seriously. Even the hardest difficulty is manageable with a team that sticks together, watches each others backs and completes objectives together and quickly. loved the outro of the vid. :)
Adding to point 10, nothing is more infuriating than having no one covering you when carrying a battery or fixing a data integrator.
i actually prefer people marking as much as they can. i get people use it to let others know who they’re focusing on, or what enemy to focus, but, personally, i prefer having tabs on as many threats at any given time.
Rushing ahead and not sticking around are fine provided you follow a few rules.
1. You're doing it for the purpose of speeding up the run by gathering materials from side paths, not because you want to pad your stats. Not because you're trying to force a speed run. Basically it's so your team doesn't need to check side paths for materials. If you're doing this you should be branching off and meeting back up with the group constantly.
2. It's during a quiet period. No elite/specials on board as far as you know. No horde. No one's fighting anything and there's no horde in coming and no unaccounted for spawned specials.
3. You're not going so far that it'll take a long time for you to get back to your team (or your team to get to you). You should be close enough that your team can help you if you get disabled or yoiu can help the team if you see them in trouble. Also if your team has to wait for you, you messed up.
4. You're good enough not to get downed/disabled while on your own on that difficulty level. It's much different going out on your own in a regular Malice vs a HISG Damnation. Know your skill level.
5. You return to the team as soon as you can SAFELY when you hear a horde spawn, a disabler spawn, see a group of enemies you'll have trouble with, or you see any of your team struggling. Safely is a keyword. If you hear a trapper/dog spawn, head back towards your team but keep on high alert for them.
Bind tag to right click, you can just feather a block or un-aim + re-aim while shooting when you need to tag. As convenient as LMB but you will cut the wild tagging rate by 90%
Nice
Many vets dont know that the toughness regenerates faster when together… you see many of these in the new “carnival” map running so far ahead in less than 5 mins into the game
Bro, YES! This video is super helpful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Just came back to darktide after a couple month break and not sure if alot of the good players aren't playing anymore but I'm finding heresy difficulty alot harder purely from all the cowboys running off on their own and letting the team down cos we get swarmed. Great tips also I actually had no idea about the flashlight waking the demonhosts il keep that in mind
The higher difficulties have gotten a little harder because of the crafting changes making playing Heresy and Damnation more attractive and efficient for farming materials and loot. That being said, the player skill going into these difficulties... doesn't translate well and some of them think they can afford to be Rambo.. (which they quickly learn they can't)
Yeah for the longest time i didn't know the resources were shared. I very often pinged materials and tried to manually share lol
The murder-hobo lizard-brain reaction of veterans to kill any enemy with a blue halo above their head when a psyker is trying to brainburst it. It's not like I have warp charges that I'm trying to maintain...but, man you sure are good at shooting quickly and wasting that ammo.
Im a vet and that shit annoys me too. When see a psycher about to pop someones head, I immediately get a bead on another target. Why waste ammo on something thats already dead? And why steal your kill?
Vets have to deal with people constantly running in their line of fire, not covering sides or your back. We ping high prio targets while immediately shooting them. Yes Vets don’t need to focus targets you’ll pop but if you ever played a lasgun before, in the heat of a fight, you literally see RED.
I don’t double check if a psyker suddenly decides to cast on a target in my line of fire.
And its not like most vet builds have an ammo problem …
Because stinky psykers need to go away. Trying to have fun shooting chainswording things and you addled chaos alzheimer wizards have to kill every single damn thing in a wave.
Can't be said enough....stay with the team!
My biggest pet peeve is people agroing the daemonhost for *_no_* reason and with *_NO WARNING_*
wow didnt notice the daemonhosts see flashlights. thanks!
I know that I'm really late to this video, but something there's really been grinding my gears while I've been playing is when I'm playing my Veteran and I am using the war cry that picks people up from down immediately.
You see that I'm using the war cry.
If there are multiple people down in one area, and I am one of them, PICK ME UP FIRST!
I can instantly revive the other two so we can get back in the fight AND recharge your toughness.
Be aware of your teammates abilities
I literally just played with two guys who would not stick together and when it came to for g objectives to progress, they just chose to keep fighting hordes and hordes of enemies and this was on 4 bars! Me and my friend were doing the scanning residue and we ended up going down after reviving these idiots several times in a skirmish. Then one waited for their friend to be prisoner just to only revive him… left me and my friend the rest of the mission…
Lmao the maplestory shoutout as I'm playing Maple rn watching this video. Definitely caught me off guard
That outro tho HAHAHA love that
hehe
My faves:
1. I'm on my last wound, barely alilve with 3 or 4 full corruption bars. Clearly I am the only one in the squad with this much damage. I run to the last use of the medicae station and some teamate that practically has full health uses it and I get none.
2. I'm opening a crate, and behold the loot is at my feet - as I am about to snap it up some one else runs in and loot goblins it even though I was clearly standing in front of it with the intention to take it. (ammo)
3. Aggroing the Daemonhost when the entire squad is trying to avoid it.
Ive seen one guy get voted off because he wandered off and we were waiting in a lift for him. We even went back to get him to follow us and he ignored us. Only then was he dropped. I know people get lost, thats a given ( done it myself) but ignoring help there isnt really an excuse for.
Hi, New player here and I'd like to thank you for this video. Not to mention I should apologise for committing some of the "sins" herein myself (namely holding on to my grenades/ med crates until "We really need them")....old habits die hard, I'm working on this.
Other than that.. Never knew materials were shared until I heard it mentioned in a random stream I was watching, so felt bad about looting everything myself.
Didn't know about flashlights....not that I've ever met a demonhost yet, as I only play at lvl2 atm, but very important info for the future.
I hate rushers, and not just in this game.... imo speed running is for pre-made teams, not random. Like I said, it sucks being a new player and trying to learn the game when you have to spend most of it just sprinting out of stam (Ogryn main here) trying to keep up with the little 'uns as they disappear over the horizon. Not to mention I now have to constantly stop and fight the chasing packs solo as I can't outrun them.
I'm all about team play, that's why I bought a co-op PvE game....I simply don't understand why so many people want to try and play it like it's a single-player run & gun? Like, there are plenty of those around, and they lend themselves to competitive speed running far better than Darktide.
Amazing video
Covered pretty much ALL of my frustrations of playing quick plays.
Wish more darktide players would see this.
people who dont swap out the grimoir penance for free then collect em on damnation so you lose for only having half health.
I had a lot of trouble having tag on it’s own button. Met with immediate success and huge effectiveness boost from binding it to the fire button. Most games nobody complains but occasionally I’ll meet someone who has the tag build but not tag bound to fire, and he will be a Karen.
Besides players who dont tag specials, my 2 most hated players are trash talkers and ammo wasters.
Trash talkers are infuriating through their personality and reluctance to support and save teammates in a game where teamwork is valued.
Ammo wasters, of course, waste and hoard ammo. They also refuse to switch to melee to block and push, taking damage and wasting health kits and med stations.
Ah yes, the COD-Genji-I-Need-Healing-I-Am-The-Hero-Of-This-Story archetype of potato players. My team in comms usually decide to leave this person to his own devices. We (3 of us) just agree to let them live their main hero story and let them solo - if they can push through great! if they go down... lets just say we... forget to revive them for sometime..
Learn something everyday. Didn’t know the flashlight woke up the deamonhost.
Blowing up barrels near your teammates especially on narrow bridges.
Not focusing on a tagged monster or clearing the other hordes around it and wandering off and dragging in more enemies before the plaque ogrins are killed.
Did'nt know the flashlight thing; good to know.
I had no idea flashlights alerted the Demonhost! Thanks for the heads up!
Glad this was informative for you!
My favorite is when a large wave spawns behind the group, and as soon as i try to defend our parties rear my team runs off and leave me.
Didnt knew flashlight could alert daemon host ! My flashlight used to be on 100% of the time. Thx I will not do it anymore
I had no idea resources ( i.e Plasteel ) were shared, I only picked up half of what I saw because I didn't want to be a loot goblin
Playing as veteran. I didn't realise that the supplys collected were shared. Ive seen myself not pick up stuff so id didn't look like i was hogging it all. Lesson learnt
I actually didnt know about the flashlights bit. Thanks.
Damn I didn’t know about the flashlight. Thanks!
I love this video because it points out the MAJOR issues with a lot of players that leave people or groups behind. There is literally a mechanic to stay together to make missions easier. This happens way too often then it should.
Sounds like all the bad elf players from VT2 is now in Darktide. I wonder where they had gone.
What bugs me the most is all the people who rush to med stations and use them immediately in auric +, and then proceed to die in the same area and used the heals before necessary. Same goes for ammo, if your not greedy (and your team isnt) you can heal and rearm AFTER everything is dead, and be 100% moving into the next area.
Same goes for the teammates who drop ammo/med crates outside of objective areas theyre intended for (finales, etc) You rarely ever need them outside of the hard areas, if your going to die just die and save the resource, you will respawn.
I’ve, more than once, gotten kicked for going the right way while other people are standing next to a door that doesn’t open.
#11: Not using the vote kick feature when someone is doing all the things you've just mentioned
there's a kick feature?
I've never had a teammate bad enough to warrant kicking them.
@@Amoogus oh I have. Had an Ogryn who kept helping allies up and then cancelling the instant they were about to get up, then start helping again before anyone could do it for real. Then they'd dance around in front of an elevator for minutes at a time before we could progress. Took all the ammo even if he'd just shot like three or four bullets. Then wouldn't get into the extraction point at the end.
Its wild how this video was made a year ago yet so many of these things still ring true. My major complaints are people who dont prioritize ammo. If I or someone else is playing veteran, and you dont give them first dibs at the ammo, thats active sabotage. But even worse in my eyes are those teammates that REFUSE to use any of the resources. Never picking up ammo despite being in the red or not picking up healing despite being injured. Idc if youre only missing 1 wound, if we're at the point of no return just take the damn medicae! If you go down, im directly punished, not only in the match but also by having to repeat the "dont have a teammate that goes down" contract from sire melk. Now i cant get the weapon i wanna rip the blessing out of because you wanna be dumb??
Ammo goblins and spam taggers are the worst, but people who don't do objectives (Especially the Auspex) are annoying asf.
As a psyker main. Please consider the following:
As a psyker, you have to manage peril. If your peril goes over a certain rate. You will blow up. So it really, really, really bothers me. When Im brain-bursting a special mob like a bulwark, or rager. Only for the team Im in to ammo dump on it. Im left with 40% or 30% peril, and that stacks per failed brain-burst. And channelling leaves me in the open when im trying to drain it. Its a massive disadvantage for me because when Im doing that. Its usually in the middle of being horde rushed. So I get ripped apart while my team runs ahead of me. Ending with me getting downed. I cannot explain why the hell they enjoy doing that, but for some fucked reason Its what gets me killed.
As a new player my experience has basically been that up until level 10 you find some people that do this while the majority of the team sticks together like rats around a pole.
At or above level 10 you basically load into a level and see your entire team race car in front of you through the first, generally enemy-free areas and then spread out all over the place.
If you struggle to keep up with them, they will not care, if you get intercepted by enemies and have to stop or slow down to kill them all, they will not care, if you dodge or back off a cliff, they will generally not even recognize this. Probably because your wound bar is not yet red.
The second they actually do anything is if you get downed or if a trapper hits you, probably because they all recognize that A: Trappers are bad and need to die. And B: They would hate it if that happened to them.
Edit: Also the tagging thing, at the start of the game I actually had a much easier time doing my job of blowing up the brains of snipers and other elites because people actually tagged them, but the second you start getting the smurf crowd, they just bullet hose everything that moves and then complain that they are out of ammo.
I'm actually kind of afraid to reach level 30 and try the higher difficulty maps for loot.
When someone makes a mistake and someone says autism: not cool.