This guy: Smokes everyone by a mile and a half. Everyone in these comments: Okay, but if this race had gone on for another fifty miles you would've been screwed!!!
@@YATESA8 Probably. They'd also all be screwed if the race was on water. Or if instead of a motorcycle race, they were at a knitting competition. Trying to say the electric motorcycle is bad actually because it's not good at doing something it's not built to do is ultimate copium. You're basically admitting in order to win, gas needs to create its own special safe space to compete in.
@@MattnUska They can be. It's why the police use them, they can go places a car can't and its more efficient than a damn bicycle. I can already outrun the horse in a car, you better hope I'm on foot if you're on some damn mountain bike. But yeah, it's good if they gotta wander off into the wilderness, places a cop realistically wouldn't have the time or efficiency to go by any other means of transportation. Just look at The Walking Dead
@MicahhCheser the only reason 4 strokes took over is reliability. Two strokes have more power. You just have to rebuilt the top end every few races on a two stroke. That's why they don't make them much anymore but they're still around. Yamaha still makes them and so does KTM I believe
We got 2 strokes, 4 strokes and electric. Each one has their pros and cons at the end of the day so it comes down to what's more fun for the individual. As long as there's 2 wheels and a motor, it's cool 👍
@@DemonratsRevil you should. its a huge step back in transportation, and if people think everything is expensive now, wait till everything has to be transported by vehicles that have to stop for an hour to charge every 100 miles.
You don't hate electric , most of what I hear is you what to do what you want,, relax people I've seen many changes in life , I've really had no problem changing in my 75yrs now , I'm glad I don't ride a horse to work anymore
That thing is nasty fast. Mostly comes down to the transmission if I had to guess. No shifting no waiting for power always in the gear. Hard to compete against that... well done friend.. keep on keepin on
Being an electric fan, specially loving my EMTB I can honestly say that 2 stroke is in my heart. I WILL NEVER, I repeat NEVER WILL RIDE anything but a 2 stroke. The sound alone is 1/2 the fun. UNLESS! I need to keep my riding on the down low due to being in prohibited areas. THAT’S IT!
@JohnDoe-og2bt you don't hear any of those bikes behind him at that point, so he could've picked his bike up and physically pushed it over and still would've won.
@@evanoneill619 He straight up drove around one and was acting pretty anxious around them. Going slow causes more contact under the bike too so saving the bike sure wasn't the reason for that. Dude is a poser with a pay to win bike
@JohnDoe-og2bt you don't know that for sure but I do know that this rider didin't avoid any obstacles watch the video agian pay some attention and you'll see that he went through the obstacle as intended, the stack of big tires is there to make a split and you chose which side to take Edit: obviously you can also choose to go over but check the course markers they're outside the logs
Just like the early cars, people laughed at it saying "that novelty will never replace the good old horse" "too much maintenance, my horse can survive from just hay and water" "that thing won't even live a fraction of what my horse can" etc But just like the modern cars and horses, both still have their use
@@26Bibles yeah what I mean is cars actually DID replace horses for transportation. horses are used as a hobby/sport and not anywhere as many as in pre car era. work horses still exist but for very specific use.
For a bike that can win a hare scramble or Enduro, it's actually a good price. Most are $9500 with many $12k+ especially podium bikes. Saves a lot of time with maintenance too. The maintenance on a gas race bike is insane
@@Max-ju6in His Ultra Bee with the battery and wheel upgrades is more like $10k. I have a similar $10k modded Ultra Bee. It's $6500 new. I got mine from Alibaba before it came to the US for 5600
@@techs1smh13 You know they pit stop every 60 miles or so for Baja races, right? You could get it done already with the right battery swapping pit crew. If you're interested, next range leap will likely be lithium-silicon batteries already being tested in airplanes. Probably 5 years til we get them in dirtbikes. They're a little over twice as energy dense in volume and weight currently so we'll have bikes with double the current range or just the same range and a lot lighter. What's crazy is the theoretical limit is 10x more than current lithium batteries which are already at 80% their theoretical limit so you could see in your lifetime a 200lb dirtbike with a 500 mile range which is just silly. Most likely something like a 175lb Stark Varg like dirtbike will be more popular.
@@GregHassler ENTHUSIAST, not a pro racer. I like electric bikes, I want one. But the 2 stroke puts a smile on my face 😊 majority of people ride for fun, not racing on a track.
I mean, the guy drove off the track and thinks he won, and then he commented on this video to say "you are allowed to be 10 ft away from the marked track." What a complete joke of a "competition."
if batteries were a viable option for transportation they would have stuck with it 100 years ago when they tested it. along with hydrogen and the rest of the crap they think they are pioneering. it was done over 100 years ago. there is a reason we use oil.
Oil is easiest, not best. That said, we need to develop these technologies to be on par at least. Personally I want to see more true hybrid desil. Desil isn't just for trucks.
@wolfkin5503 I'm sorry to break the news to you. oil is the nest option. it's stable, cheap, abundant, and it goes further than 200 miles without a 2 hour break.
@@mattpowell-z5p I think the way hyundai used hydrogen in the n vision 74 isn't a bad idea. But yeah evs aren't there and making a single battery is insanely polluting.
@ok10469 the problem with hydrogen is the platinum. platinum is extremely expensive. oil is cheap, abundant, and reliable. that's just the way it is. people have got to stop thinking they have the power to destroy what created them. we don't. we never will.
As suburbs expand, more and more tracks end up near residential areas, and so electric will save the tracks by removing a lot of noise pollution. Saw a great video about this but can't remember what it was called. The pro who rode it absolutely loved it.
Driving or riding and operating a manual transmission attached to an internal combustion engine competently is one of thee most fun and rewarding things that can be done in this life in my opinion.
@@theblishknovk Personally I like electric for dirtbikes since there's already a lot to think about on the trail. Can basically apply that free brain space to ride faster instead. Electric gets me to think more about the ride and less about the bike. I'd like it better for dual sport touring too, but not quite there yet with range so I have a DR650 as well for now
I think Ive hit the point where I really like the solitude of the electric bike. Ripping new england trails for hours without killing my ears, stalling out or sucking in smoke is nice. Gas bikes are still awesome, but this is great too!
@@LemonHolidayProd ...None. 20-30 miles is enough for me usually. Depending how hard I ride 30-35 miles gets me back with about 20% battery give or take.
Being able to hear in the woods and have that solitude is a huge plus for me. I ride for a couple hours at a time, single track mostly, and would love an electric for that. Kind of waiting for a solid state battery though.
Electrics are pretty sick, this ultrabee is like 190 lbs. I just dread the day when I have a head on, on a blind corner cuz we can’t hear each other approaching
You don’t even gotta race those toys…just wait for the battery to die or catch fire, and roll on by. They are currently a joke. Maybe not in the future.
@@TrolloTV Well now, i never considered all the races I'd start winning if i just bought electric. Oh wait. I don't race. I commute in sub zero temps, and take 1,000 mile road trips. Electrics aren't criticized for being slow, or low performance. They are criticized for impracticality and affordability. Availability of resources and longevity of parts, too. My '89 Ford pickup and my KLR650 contain no lithium, Cobalt or neodymium, and will continue running well into the 2040s and beyond so long as they're maintained with cheap and common parts. Suggesting that there's any hate for electrics outside of practicality is silly.
Honestly for motocross electric is op. The power delivery and traction control are in a whole different class than gas bikes. Overall I believe electric is the future of racing. But for road use i still think gas is better.
electric is the future of nothing transportation wise. the electric grid will never be able to handle it, and the batteries will always be too weak, and too excpensive. it would be the end of vehicles able to last more than 10 years. the expense would kill people. motor sports would be extinct, and car shows would be gone. everything would be a throw away vehicle.
Dope riding? Have you ever played racing games before? When you get out of the track you get time penalties. He may have crossed the finish line first, but how do you know he won first place?
IMO the sound is half the experience. I have no interest in riding or driving an electric vehicle and I certainly won't spend money to watch EV's run down a drag strip or electric bikes race around a track.
Riding alone in the front, and all you can hear is the wimpy purr of your motor, and the thunderous roar of the two stroke hitting its power band behind you
As a former surron owner, they are great machines but you need to add WAY more money to get them there when you can have a better machine out the door if you don’t get a surron. Save more buy using the term “buy once cry once”.
@@TheBlueCollarBaller surron not being better is surron’s fault. What have they updated in the last 7 years? E ride or talaria have shown they can advance. My E ride does 60 out the box and cost what? A couple hundred more than a surron? They havent changed cuz the fanboys are too willing to spend thousands to improve the bike. There are better options out there for ppl not made of money lol
@@BarcaJerk9couldn’t agree more. I was so deep into my surron and when it came to sell I lost my trash on it. People need to stop paying for the name (and for a lesser product!) and buy something better from the get go.
@@TheBlueCollarBaller yea im definitely not hating on surron tho, they are the apple of the e bike world and hey if your business model aint broke dont fix it I get it but damn man. When I was cross shopping all three the specs of the surron made me rule it out at the price point. The price point of the talaria was better but the specs and price of the e ride i couldnt turn down. It helps that there is aftermarket support for all of em tho so you’ll always have options. I just dont get the hate lol
The feeling I would get blazing through the desert on my 500 couldn't be replicated by a vacuum. That visceral feeling is 50% of the fun. I would like to try the Stark though. A 500 class vacuum might be fun.
You do realize if it weren’t dead or near that would indicate it were carrying unnecessary mass? Have you ever read about fuel management and pit strategy; all racers want to carry only the exact weight necessary and only carry more for specific decisions for higher pit flexibility ie less risk. But at the cost of speed. So this battery was the perfect size then!
I don’t support going entirely electric in the slightest, but there’s no denying that electric bikes are a different animal entirely. Having all that power and torque instantly has gotta be an amazing feeling and I’d love to ride some crazy electric dirt bike someday. That being said, I’ll stick with my tried and true dinosaur burning machines cause there ain’t no school like the old school 😎
@@tyler6602 lol I can taste the salt from here, tastes GOOD snowflake 🤣 Did mommy get you a ToRqUe kids toy?I've had several DOZENS of bikes over the years starting with machines made for MEN without any kind of rider aids in the mid 90's miss daisy but you wouldn't know anything about that, between the MEN bikes I own today, 2 of them make in the region of 240 NATURALLY ASPIRATED power and would wipe the stickers out your child's toys in 1st gear but once again, you wouldn't know anything about that! Take your purse and pipe tfd junior 👚👠💄🌈
@@tyler6602 lol I've owned 26 M A N bikes over the years starting from the time we had zero rider aids, currently one of my bikes is a 240hp v4r I'm sure I would struggle to "control the tOrQuE " of a plastic plug in toy kiddo 🤣 I'd strip this pos paint off using only 1st gear and I'm not even exaggerating I need a few seconds to go 0/100+mph not a calendar and a prayer
Do you really not realize how fast electric vehicles accelerate? There's an electric motorcycle that is an entire half second faster 0-60 than the fastest gas bike. It's understandable that you're a bit frightened by the changing world, but we should try to accept changes with grace and dignity instead of uninformed sarcasm.
@@imnotlettingyouseemyname lol I don't even know were to begin with you pal 🤣 " do you even know electric vehicles ?" ,yes I do,probably better than you and I fkn DESPISE IT, I've got a dozen ner d friends even an employee always ragging around about their Tesla, "scared of the world changing " lol not at all I'm all for change if it's GOOD change, I've experienced the world with black and white tv only, no internet no cellphones and I welcome that kind of change,pronouns,rainbow parades and appliance type vehicles are not my kind of thing and they're closely related.I would LOVE to see that "faster than life " battery "bike " next to one of my bikes I swear I would, in 100 miles I'd gap it by what, 70?It gets the lead by maybe 4 seconds, then gets gapped by 2 Walmart's in the next four and a whole county in 20 minutes. I fkn DESPISE those things the day I buy one of those things is the day I buy a matching skirt and purse
Its not as mind blowing when you realize that he Jumped the start. Dont care that he got away with it. But def a jump start. Fast as shit none the less ❤
Lol why do the haters watch so many electric bike videos shouldn't they be out riding their I am never giving up my 2 stroke bike. Bro don't 2 strokes are so easy to work on, just ride and be happy and stop watching videos of things you don't like easy .
what do you mean by top end? max performance? Just build one with a bigger engine. I'd say the biggest downside is how hard it is to find a good mix between low weight, power and range because you can only have two of those right now. Low weight, high power -> no range high range, high power -> unbearable weight high range, low weight -> no power Maybe with better batteries this can be resolved at some point.
This guy finished waaaaaay out front of the ICE bikes in a 90 minute race. Look for the full video. At bet at the end most of the bikes were running on fumes.
You guys think there is some magic at play here. This is a brushless motor and a lithium battery. If you ride it hard it will die in 20 minutes or less. That is it. There is no way to change this with the current technology. If you tried to come ride with me and my friends with one of these on our sandy trails you wouldn't make it 1/4 the way through the trip. THE TECHNOLOGY OF THE BATTERIES IS NOT THERE YET. Period. No amount of copium can change that.
😭😭 that’s a surron ultra bee with a battery that lasts over 5 hours I have one and I ride it hard it probably could go for 8 hours+ if I was riding trails
@@Maxwell_Manchester In a crosscountry race like this you are constantly accelerating to go as fast as possible. A Surron Ultra bee might last half an hour of such use.
There is also no battery which could even theoretically beat hydrocarbon fuels. They will get better, but are chemically limited to be around 50 percent or 30 percent energy density of fuel.
If that's the case then there's obviously no advantage to having an EV. But it had a hard time going over just the logs. Or was the rider babying it because he knows if he dumps it it'll break?@@Jayjoeinsanity
@@justinBeefeater So if the rider isnt skilled enough to get over a obstacle course, there is no advantage to ev? What are you actually trying to argue here?
@@koloo3220 you're assuming the rider isn't skilled enough! Watch the video the rider is plenty skilled. If the EV doesn't make an unskilled rider better or make a skilled rider better then why use it? It clearly didn't save the rider from fatigue. He clearly had to baby it. EVs aren't there yet. They are a gimmick like electric cars.
For short distance racing it's great. Nothing at all against the engines themselves. I have a DRZ and can switch to a 28l fuel tank whenever I want to go on long distance explores or run the stocker when I just want to ride locally. I can fill up in seconds at any gas station in between. If we have that level of range flexibility in electric bikes, I'll likely own one. Until then we just have to deal with them being like those battery powered RC cars we owned as kids. 15 minutes of fun and then sitting for 3 hours by charger.
@@DakCuhno one is racing the 1000 without refueling. Swapping batteries is just as fast if not faster. The logistics is the harder part. Taiwan has it figured out already as there are many riders and less land if you want a case study. Back when people started driving cars instead of horses, they also had the same argument (why struggle to find gas when my horse can eat anything I eat, blah blabla)
No not really the battery and motor is really havy. If you want a lot of power gas is the way to go cus the big battery is to havy wich cause the frame to failure it already happen and the gas bike doesn’t need a bigger fuel tank just a more quality engine wich makes more horsepower or nitro or a turbo it makes a lot mor horsepower and isn’t as havy as the controller, Battery , motor and the extra large frame for more space that would n the video was a surron and it’s mor comparable with a electric bicycle becaus it uses bicycle parts
@@StoopidAsianKidso.... Have we sat down and looked at a stark varg? Thing is almost identical to a, I wanna say 450? And out performs gas in every way that isn't range/mileage
Racing a 80 horse bike against 45 horse bikes is unfair ...and like someone else said ""I don't hate electric bikes .I hate that they want to eliminate gas bikes and make us buy electric""
"bUt If ThE rAcE wAs LoNgEr" my ETX150 with it's 950km range would stomp a formula one car in a desert, but I'm not bitching about that while watching F1, electrics are insanely good in Motocross due to the races being short and technical.
it's only not there if you like to ride in the boonies for 8 hours. this crap wouldn't fly in glamis, pismo beach, hollister hills and especially not at clear creek recreational area. a big part of the fun of riding is being out there actually riding for hours and hours, not sitting at camp running your generator to charge your bike.
@@electricisbetter Good on them, but a glorified electric pushbike is different to an electric motorbike. Hurry up and build me a decent and affordable EV motorbike.
It shouldn't be a problem. If a gasoline bike can refuel then an electric bike should be allowed to swap out depleted batteries for charged ones. If the bike is designed right it should take just a few seconds.
Not true at the slightest just look up if the best electric dirt bike is better than the best gas dirt bike electric is much more powerful and efficient
@@BenRipz67 hell tf yeah its ture ive had experience with gas and electric and i can guarantee you dirt bikes have way more power and climbing power + traction
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This guy: Smokes everyone by a mile and a half.
Everyone in these comments: Okay, but if this race had gone on for another fifty miles you would've been screwed!!!
@@YATESA8 Probably. They'd also all be screwed if the race was on water. Or if instead of a motorcycle race, they were at a knitting competition. Trying to say the electric motorcycle is bad actually because it's not good at doing something it's not built to do is ultimate copium. You're basically admitting in order to win, gas needs to create its own special safe space to compete in.
This guy is racing alone.
@@ionchira5448 this short is literally from an hour long video where he shows himself racing against other motorcycles 😂
@@ionchira5448no he’s just so far ahead in this clip it seems that way lol
Looks like he skipped some of those obstacles too.
It blows my mind that you cleared those obstacles with the grace of a burnt potato and still won with a massive margin.
Yeah... makes you think a bit...
Needs a clutch
its called C class
@@seabrookmxno, just a better rider
He even went around that big one then out of bounds. Pretty lax rules
Technically that 2 stroke is a hybrid. Burns oil and gas 😂
That's funny, I'm using it!
Shit, what are you talking about, it’s electric, it has a spark plug.
@@mohba01 it is? Well that makes a lot of sense.
Thats not 2t 😊
All engines burn oil and gas just different ratios and flammability!
“Horses are better” -Amish guy in hat
this but unironically
@@MattnUska They can be. It's why the police use them, they can go places a car can't and its more efficient than a damn bicycle. I can already outrun the horse in a car, you better hope I'm on foot if you're on some damn mountain bike. But yeah, it's good if they gotta wander off into the wilderness, places a cop realistically wouldn't have the time or efficiency to go by any other means of transportation. Just look at The Walking Dead
Some of y'all acting like an electric motor stole your girl in high school or something
It did technically vibrators are electric motors
Electric bikes should have their own races away from gas powered bikes
They're usually only allowed in "open" classes. Not common enough yet for their own class so mixed is a necessity for now
@@Tazdeviloo7 but it should because they are an unfair advantage ,like four strokes taking over two strokes in the early 2000s
Open class allows 4 and 2 stroke. Hence the name "open". Electric should absolutely be allowed in any open class
@MicahhCheser the only reason 4 strokes took over is reliability. Two strokes have more power. You just have to rebuilt the top end every few races on a two stroke. That's why they don't make them much anymore but they're still around. Yamaha still makes them and so does KTM I believe
@@ragedemon6513Tell me you know nothing about MX bikes or MX racing without telling me..
I’ll never forgive the fours strokes for replacing the two strokes.
Agreed
Exactly, ruined motocross for me
Get over it. The sport evolves.
Lots of two strokes still run Enduro.
You can thank the Yamaha for conning the AMA into changing the rules.
@@kj385there my favorite brand but i don’t like how they popularized the 4 stroke
We got 2 strokes, 4 strokes and electric. Each one has their pros and cons at the end of the day so it comes down to what's more fun for the individual.
As long as there's 2 wheels and a motor, it's cool 👍
No1 hates electric, we just hate being told you WILL own one.
Nah I hate that shit with a passion 😂
i hate electric for that reason, so i hate electric and the people that push them. i will own you if you keep demanding i will own something.
Nah. I hate anything electric.
@@DemonratsRevil you should. its a huge step back in transportation, and if people think everything is expensive now, wait till everything has to be transported by vehicles that have to stop for an hour to charge every 100 miles.
You don't hate electric , most of what I hear is you what to do what you want,, relax people I've seen many changes in life , I've really had no problem changing in my 75yrs now , I'm glad I don't ride a horse to work anymore
How does one het first place when they avoid the tires and drive off course
Probably got some points deducted and time taken off but if your this ahead it sometimes doesn’t matter😅
He just went off course it’s not like he cut across track 😂
This
he pulled it back on course and that was even a side trail to go around the tires. either way. this is still fem
You are allowed to be within 10ft of the marked course 🙂
People hate on electric bikes so much but there fun asf because it’s instant power
Nothing like instant torque
+100500
Nothing like running outta battery power going into a hill…Whilst my gas tank is full.
@@davemoskot1776 *gets on track KNOWING the battery is low*
@@davemoskot1776ultra bee that lasts 8 hours****
@@Maxwell_Manchester hahaha No it does not! Not in these conditions, and probably not in any other form of real world condition either.
That thing is nasty fast. Mostly comes down to the transmission if I had to guess. No shifting no waiting for power always in the gear. Hard to compete against that... well done friend.. keep on keepin on
Being an electric fan, specially loving my EMTB I can honestly say that 2 stroke is in my heart. I WILL NEVER, I repeat NEVER WILL RIDE anything but a 2 stroke. The sound alone is 1/2 the fun.
UNLESS! I need to keep my riding on the down low due to being in prohibited areas. THAT’S IT!
That 2 stroke creeping right behind u is pure anxiety
Yeeeessssssss BRAAAP BRAAAP!!
AND the 2 stroke didn't skip any obstacles
@JohnDoe-og2bt you don't hear any of those bikes behind him at that point, so he could've picked his bike up and physically pushed it over and still would've won.
@@evanoneill619 He straight up drove around one and was acting pretty anxious around them. Going slow causes more contact under the bike too so saving the bike sure wasn't the reason for that. Dude is a poser with a pay to win bike
@JohnDoe-og2bt you don't know that for sure but I do know that this rider didin't avoid any obstacles watch the video agian pay some attention and you'll see that he went through the obstacle as intended, the stack of big tires is there to make a split and you chose which side to take
Edit: obviously you can also choose to go over but check the course markers they're outside the logs
Just like the early cars, people laughed at it saying "that novelty will never replace the good old horse" "too much maintenance, my horse can survive from just hay and water" "that thing won't even live a fraction of what my horse can" etc
But just like the modern cars and horses, both still have their use
Well said!
nope horses are used a sport are recreation. they are not use as transport particular cases (amish people etc)
@@geemy9675are you real? Like do you have comprehensive skills?
@@26Bibles yeah what I mean is cars actually DID replace horses for transportation. horses are used as a hobby/sport and not anywhere as many as in pre car era. work horses still exist but for very specific use.
It's all about the MINERALS 🔥🔥🔥
For over $5000, it better do some shit like that lol 😂
For a bike that can win a hare scramble or Enduro, it's actually a good price. Most are $9500 with many $12k+ especially podium bikes. Saves a lot of time with maintenance too. The maintenance on a gas race bike is insane
@@Tazdeviloo7 the ultra bee (the one in the video i think) is 7k and the storm be wich has 23Kw is 10k
@@Max-ju6in His Ultra Bee with the battery and wheel upgrades is more like $10k. I have a similar $10k modded Ultra Bee. It's $6500 new. I got mine from Alibaba before it came to the US for 5600
When do we race a 100-200-300 or baja 500 1000. Pitstops every 40 miles
@@techs1smh13 You know they pit stop every 60 miles or so for Baja races, right? You could get it done already with the right battery swapping pit crew.
If you're interested, next range leap will likely be lithium-silicon batteries already being tested in airplanes. Probably 5 years til we get them in dirtbikes. They're a little over twice as energy dense in volume and weight currently so we'll have bikes with double the current range or just the same range and a lot lighter. What's crazy is the theoretical limit is 10x more than current lithium batteries which are already at 80% their theoretical limit so you could see in your lifetime a 200lb dirtbike with a 500 mile range which is just silly. Most likely something like a 175lb Stark Varg like dirtbike will be more popular.
Good thing for competition he doesn’t ride a Stark Varg it would be embarrassing. Good job on a play bike Surron Ultra Bee. Hats Off bud.
Everything has its pros and cons but for true enthusiasts, nothing can replace a combustion engine
Those true enthusiasts sure are losing a lot of races lately.
2 smoker. 😊
@@GregHassler ENTHUSIAST, not a pro racer. I like electric bikes, I want one. But the 2 stroke puts a smile on my face 😊 majority of people ride for fun, not racing on a track.
Big slow and sluggish screams gay
this whole page seems like rage bait. and its definitely working lol
I mean, the guy drove off the track and thinks he won, and then he commented on this video to say "you are allowed to be 10 ft away from the marked track." What a complete joke of a "competition."
@@raineodin Welcome to RUclips.
You can hear that 2 stroke lurking in the back. The true king of dirtbikes
King of 2nd place 😂
king of not getting 1st lmfao
I bet if there was a more experienced rider on that 2stroke he would clap that electric ass🤣
just put that toy bike in a desert race. Paris to Dakar, it would have to recharge many times. Last place!🤣👍
@@Workerbee-zy5nx it would probably overheat too🤣
In the last century and a half, the limitations of electric vehicles has always been batteries....
if batteries were a viable option for transportation they would have stuck with it 100 years ago when they tested it. along with hydrogen and the rest of the crap they think they are pioneering. it was done over 100 years ago. there is a reason we use oil.
Oil is easiest, not best. That said, we need to develop these technologies to be on par at least.
Personally I want to see more true hybrid desil. Desil isn't just for trucks.
@wolfkin5503 I'm sorry to break the news to you. oil is the nest option. it's stable, cheap, abundant, and it goes further than 200 miles without a 2 hour break.
@@mattpowell-z5p I think the way hyundai used hydrogen in the n vision 74 isn't a bad idea. But yeah evs aren't there and making a single battery is insanely polluting.
@ok10469 the problem with hydrogen is the platinum. platinum is extremely expensive. oil is cheap, abundant, and reliable. that's just the way it is. people have got to stop thinking they have the power to destroy what created them. we don't. we never will.
I will never trade a 500cc thumper for anything electric. The sound is the thrill too.
And the feeling of the power band warping you through time
There not a thumper tho I have a 450cc dirtbike it ain't a thumper it's a beast
@@JacobRidesBikes2 strokes are for people who don't know how to rode 450 4 stroke
@@tonysworld3001you’re delusional
I know a 250 2 stroke won't
GNCC has an electric class running the Stark bikes and so far they haven't been able to complete a race yet without dying.
Lol oh please. You're full of shit
As suburbs expand, more and more tracks end up near residential areas, and so electric will save the tracks by removing a lot of noise pollution. Saw a great video about this but can't remember what it was called. The pro who rode it absolutely loved it.
I think you might be talking about the Travis Pastrana video on the Stark Varg.
@@Berserkable yeah, that's the one! Kudos
I think those people shouldn't move near the tracks
Electric bikes are shown in studies to lower pollution and testosterone by 98% in the first hour you ride it.
No pollution then take diesels off the road and ride burners like my four wheeler as loud as either of them
Electric has great torque and responsiveness, but at the end of the day the gas dirtbike will go further
And be more fun.
@@theblishknovkStalling and overheating on tech uphills is fun?
Driving or riding and operating a manual transmission attached to an internal combustion engine competently is one of thee most fun and rewarding things that can be done in this life in my opinion.
@@Tazdeviloo7 yes, the thrill of ice engines
@@theblishknovk Personally I like electric for dirtbikes since there's already a lot to think about on the trail. Can basically apply that free brain space to ride faster instead. Electric gets me to think more about the ride and less about the bike. I'd like it better for dual sport touring too, but not quite there yet with range so I have a DR650 as well for now
I think Ive hit the point where I really like the solitude of the electric bike. Ripping new england trails for hours without killing my ears, stalling out or sucking in smoke is nice. Gas bikes are still awesome, but this is great too!
Ripping trails for hours? How many charging breaks in there?
@@LemonHolidayProd ...None. 20-30 miles is enough for me usually. Depending how hard I ride 30-35 miles gets me back with about 20% battery give or take.
Being able to hear in the woods and have that solitude is a huge plus for me. I ride for a couple hours at a time, single track mostly, and would love an electric for that. Kind of waiting for a solid state battery though.
Killing your ears hahaha
@@aeroe2144yes, that's why most racers and long distance motorcycle riders wear earplugs.
Electrics are pretty sick, this ultrabee is like 190 lbs. I just dread the day when I have a head on, on a blind corner cuz we can’t hear each other approaching
They need gearing, for the thrill and control, and some kind of optional noise. I could see the silence being a problem at some of them speeds
Damnit, my cord wasn't long enough.
Cope
Literally no one doubts the performance of electric. But clearly, the overall practicality of it isnt there yet.
Motocross isn’t exactly about practicality anyways
You don’t even gotta race those toys…just wait for the battery to die or catch fire, and roll on by. They are currently a joke. Maybe not in the future.
@@onerider808 Well, theyre already faster on the track than any gas bike.
@TrolloTV but it's their only best use. If you wanted to pack a tent and disappear for a few days you couldn't with electric.
@@TrolloTV
Well now, i never considered all the races I'd start winning if i just bought electric. Oh wait. I don't race. I commute in sub zero temps, and take 1,000 mile road trips.
Electrics aren't criticized for being slow, or low performance. They are criticized for impracticality and affordability. Availability of resources and longevity of parts, too. My '89 Ford pickup and my KLR650 contain no lithium, Cobalt or neodymium, and will continue running well into the 2040s and beyond so long as they're maintained with cheap and common parts.
Suggesting that there's any hate for electrics outside of practicality is silly.
Race? I think this guy was racing his own clock
E bike sound:🤐
4 stroke:🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
2 stroke:🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Gotta love those lithium deposits
Honestly for motocross electric is op. The power delivery and traction control are in a whole different class than gas bikes. Overall I believe electric is the future of racing. But for road use i still think gas is better.
electric is the future of nothing transportation wise. the electric grid will never be able to handle it, and the batteries will always be too weak, and too excpensive. it would be the end of vehicles able to last more than 10 years. the expense would kill people. motor sports would be extinct, and car shows would be gone. everything would be a throw away vehicle.
Yes, but it's so quiet you can hear everyone laughing 😂. Jokes aside, dope riding !
laughing because they are uneducated? not the riders problem.
Dope riding? Have you ever played racing games before? When you get out of the track you get time penalties. He may have crossed the finish line first, but how do you know he won first place?
@@volatilemerican6746 racing games? hahaha smfh
@@janglewonblin935 its a joke my dude
2 strokes absolutely rule.
Instant torque is a hell of a drug
It needs to sound like "The Jetsons" and then it would be twice as cool.
nobody said electric bikes dont have power, personally i enjoy the sound and smell of a 2 stroke so thats why i ride a 2 stroke
IMO the sound is half the experience. I have no interest in riding or driving an electric vehicle and I certainly won't spend money to watch EV's run down a drag strip or electric bikes race around a track.
Let’s go mountain riding for a few days… oh wait
Agreed, those gas engines probably all had to be rebuilt right after the race and weren't ready to go riding again.
You smoke your E-Cigarette after winning?
I heard he’s also dating Elon musk
Probably while checking his E-mail too
😂
He also likes to take the E peter in his A hole, I'll bet!
I think he was too busy with your wife to smoke after the race.
Riding alone in the front, and all you can hear is the wimpy purr of your motor, and the thunderous roar of the two stroke hitting its power band behind you
I couldn't think of anything worse than being alone at the front in a race, where exactly this is the objective 😔
@@TheTobeyGaming sure you might win, but you'll look like a pussy. If you're not looking cool, are you really winning?
"The thunderous roar" of a less powerful motor LOL 😂
Nothing wrong with that. Have fun. We just don't want to see the day government gives no choice to riders banning ice bikes
You cannot beat 2 stroke sound with any rideable drill.
A playing card and a clothes pin. Fixed it for you.
I'll take a rideable drill over a weed whacker engine any day.
I cant get on with the lack of clutch on the Oset. It makes things awkward when trying to do anything technical. For me that is.
Alien Rides Moto X has a clutch for exactly this reason
Watching people get so defensive about gas bikes going further or making noise or whatever is unironically really funny.
As a former surron owner, they are great machines but you need to add WAY more money to get them there when you can have a better machine out the door if you don’t get a surron. Save more buy using the term “buy once cry once”.
@@TheBlueCollarBaller surron not being better is surron’s fault. What have they updated in the last 7 years? E ride or talaria have shown they can advance. My E ride does 60 out the box and cost what? A couple hundred more than a surron? They havent changed cuz the fanboys are too willing to spend thousands to improve the bike. There are better options out there for ppl not made of money lol
@@BarcaJerk9couldn’t agree more. I was so deep into my surron and when it came to sell I lost my trash on it. People need to stop paying for the name (and for a lesser product!) and buy something better from the get go.
@@TheBlueCollarBaller yea im definitely not hating on surron tho, they are the apple of the e bike world and hey if your business model aint broke dont fix it I get it but damn man. When I was cross shopping all three the specs of the surron made me rule it out at the price point. The price point of the talaria was better but the specs and price of the e ride i couldnt turn down. It helps that there is aftermarket support for all of em tho so you’ll always have options. I just dont get the hate lol
The feeling I would get blazing through the desert on my 500 couldn't be replicated by a vacuum. That visceral feeling is 50% of the fun. I would like to try the Stark though. A 500 class vacuum might be fun.
Oh the thrill of waiting for that spontaneous combustion 👍
Shit already got a dead battery before the race is over 😂
Lol, part of why they are just toys for rich kids
I didn't see any power meters or warning lights
@@mwbgaming28 Great observation! That's because the bike did the full 1 hour and 32 minute race, finishing first, without charging at all.
You do realize if it weren’t dead or near that would indicate it were carrying unnecessary mass? Have you ever read about fuel management and pit strategy; all racers want to carry only the exact weight necessary and only carry more for specific decisions for higher pit flexibility ie less risk. But at the cost of speed. So this battery was the perfect size then!
@electricisbetter Yeah by your own video... electric is not there.
Please Be careful charging that thing in your house.
I don’t support going entirely electric in the slightest, but there’s no denying that electric bikes are a different animal entirely. Having all that power and torque instantly has gotta be an amazing feeling and I’d love to ride some crazy electric dirt bike someday. That being said, I’ll stick with my tried and true dinosaur burning machines cause there ain’t no school like the old school 😎
Ye but in a long distance race, it wouldnt beat 2 stroke and 4 stroke. Top speed and charge is limited. Electric just has instant torque.
This was a 90 minute race. Gas bikes have to refuel too 😂
The sound or lack there of is soul-killing.
Bro you jumped them by like a second 😂😂
nice scooter, does it comes with training wheels too?
This dude wouldnt even know how to control all the torque, and would definitely need the training wheels, thats why he is asking
@@tyler6602 lol I can taste the salt from here, tastes GOOD snowflake 🤣
Did mommy get you a ToRqUe kids toy?I've had several DOZENS of bikes over the years starting with machines made for MEN without any kind of rider aids in the mid 90's miss daisy but you wouldn't know anything about that, between the MEN bikes I own today, 2 of them make in the region of 240 NATURALLY ASPIRATED power and would wipe the stickers out your child's toys in 1st gear but once again, you wouldn't know anything about that!
Take your purse and pipe tfd junior 👚👠💄🌈
@@tyler6602 lol I've owned 26 M A N bikes over the years starting from the time we had zero rider aids, currently one of my bikes is a 240hp v4r I'm sure I would struggle to "control the tOrQuE " of a plastic plug in toy kiddo 🤣
I'd strip this pos paint off using only 1st gear and I'm not even exaggerating I need a few seconds to go 0/100+mph not a calendar and a prayer
Do you really not realize how fast electric vehicles accelerate? There's an electric motorcycle that is an entire half second faster 0-60 than the fastest gas bike. It's understandable that you're a bit frightened by the changing world, but we should try to accept changes with grace and dignity instead of uninformed sarcasm.
@@imnotlettingyouseemyname lol I don't even know were to begin with you pal 🤣
" do you even know electric vehicles ?" ,yes I do,probably better than you and I fkn DESPISE IT, I've got a dozen ner d friends even an employee always ragging around about their Tesla, "scared of the world changing " lol not at all I'm all for change if it's GOOD change, I've experienced the world with black and white tv only, no internet no cellphones and I welcome that kind of change,pronouns,rainbow parades and appliance type vehicles are not my kind of thing and they're closely related.I would LOVE to see that "faster than life " battery "bike " next to one of my bikes I swear I would, in 100 miles I'd gap it by what, 70?It gets the lead by maybe 4 seconds, then gets gapped by 2 Walmart's in the next four and a whole county in 20 minutes. I fkn DESPISE those things the day I buy one of those things is the day I buy a matching skirt and purse
Just not the same without the Braaaappp😅
Pull over man, I want to hear that 2 stroke
then he put the bike to recharge and looked at the rest of the people having fun after refueling in 5 mins
Its not as mind blowing when you realize that he Jumped the start. Dont care that he got away with it. But def a jump start. Fast as shit none the less ❤
Did it come with a free purse?
Gotta make loud noises to prove to other men how tough you are!! 💩🤡💩🤡💩🤡
I have two. They aren’t there yet. Will someone make a graphene battery for my Surron already?
Yet this douche keeps trying to pimp this crap.
Lol why do the haters watch so many electric bike videos shouldn't they be out riding their I am never giving up my 2 stroke bike. Bro don't 2 strokes are so easy to work on, just ride and be happy and stop watching videos of things you don't like easy .
Exactly
"What new devilry is this?" - some old guy on a two stroke.... Probably
At the finish line...."Gas bikes just aren't there yet"! 😂
Weight, top end, and range are the downsides of electric.
The biggest downside in my opinion is the lack of noise and gears, they are soulless.
what do you mean by top end?
max performance? Just build one with a bigger engine.
I'd say the biggest downside is how hard it is to find a good mix between low weight, power and range because you can only have two of those right now.
Low weight, high power -> no range
high range, high power -> unbearable weight
high range, low weight -> no power
Maybe with better batteries this can be resolved at some point.
This guy finished waaaaaay out front of the ICE bikes in a 90 minute race. Look for the full video. At bet at the end most of the bikes were running on fumes.
You guys think there is some magic at play here. This is a brushless motor and a lithium battery. If you ride it hard it will die in 20 minutes or less. That is it. There is no way to change this with the current technology. If you tried to come ride with me and my friends with one of these on our sandy trails you wouldn't make it 1/4 the way through the trip. THE TECHNOLOGY OF THE BATTERIES IS NOT THERE YET. Period. No amount of copium can change that.
😭😭 that’s a surron ultra bee with a battery that lasts over 5 hours I have one and I ride it hard it probably could go for 8 hours+ if I was riding trails
@@Maxwell_Manchester In a crosscountry race like this you are constantly accelerating to go as fast as possible. A Surron Ultra bee might last half an hour of such use.
I seriously think you have lost touch with reality.@@Maxwell_Manchester
There is also no battery which could even theoretically beat hydrocarbon fuels.
They will get better, but are chemically limited to be around 50 percent or 30 percent energy density of fuel.
Add 3 more batteries
The pure joy of hearing gas engines underneath you can't be replaced!!!!
Until you actually experience the pure joy of NOT having a gas engine underneath you. What is joyful about smelly, hot, vibrating, deafening engines?
I'm more into fast than vibrators.
@@GregHassler you forget most of these people are smelly hot and deafening on their own. Like for like lol
It was getting quieter as the video went on, he was def gone
I just wish batteries were cheaper, LiFe4, and had a better swap system. Then you could own and bring a dozen with you.
Tries to prove EVs are there but doesn't complete all the course obstacles..
That is the rider not the bike
If that's the case then there's obviously no advantage to having an EV. But it had a hard time going over just the logs. Or was the rider babying it because he knows if he dumps it it'll break?@@Jayjoeinsanity
@@justinBeefeater You have a very valid point!
@@justinBeefeater So if the rider isnt skilled enough to get over a obstacle course, there is no advantage to ev? What are you actually trying to argue here?
@@koloo3220 you're assuming the rider isn't skilled enough! Watch the video the rider is plenty skilled. If the EV doesn't make an unskilled rider better or make a skilled rider better then why use it? It clearly didn't save the rider from fatigue. He clearly had to baby it. EVs aren't there yet. They are a gimmick like electric cars.
Gas is the best
Slower though
@TrolloTV but you don't have to charge a gas bike at your wife's boyfriends house.😂😂
@@mattseifert8061 Yeah, cause your wife only got the boyfriend after you lost all them races to electric bikes
@TrolloTV Hey hey, hey, I wasn't attacking you. That was mean 😂😂
@@mattseifert8061 I apologize :(
So many mad people in the comments like who cares it’s an OPEN class quit whining
For short distance racing it's great. Nothing at all against the engines themselves. I have a DRZ and can switch to a 28l fuel tank whenever I want to go on long distance explores or run the stocker when I just want to ride locally. I can fill up in seconds at any gas station in between. If we have that level of range flexibility in electric bikes, I'll likely own one. Until then we just have to deal with them being like those battery powered RC cars we owned as kids. 15 minutes of fun and then sitting for 3 hours by charger.
There will never be an ebike in my shed that's for sure
Lmao now do that for 100miles
I didn't know people usually race a 100 mile race... Where do I sign up??
@@electricisbetterbaja 1000. 1000 miles in less than 24 hours. Electric is just for messing around in the yard.
@@DakCuhno one is racing the 1000 without refueling. Swapping batteries is just as fast if not faster. The logistics is the harder part. Taiwan has it figured out already as there are many riders and less land if you want a case study. Back when people started driving cars instead of horses, they also had the same argument (why struggle to find gas when my horse can eat anything I eat, blah blabla)
@@DakCuh Messing around playing with the slower gas bikes
@@electricisbetter every US enduro event to exist lol
Now do the dakar race
speed isn’t what people are talking about when they say electric isn’t there yet.
Who’s all looking forward to the day that a motocross race sounds like 10 Mexican dudes building a fence?
No noise, no vibration, no life. It feels so empty
just like your brain 🤭
Funny, noise and vibration are the two things I hate the most, lol.
@@twowheelsabovewhy u crying
Electric bikes are also lighter. Definitely should be their own class
No not really the battery and motor is really havy. If you want a lot of power gas is the way to go cus the big battery is to havy wich cause the frame to failure it already happen and the gas bike doesn’t need a bigger fuel tank just a more quality engine wich makes more horsepower or nitro or a turbo it makes a lot mor horsepower and isn’t as havy as the controller, Battery , motor and the extra large frame for more space that would n the video was a surron and it’s mor comparable with a electric bicycle becaus it uses bicycle parts
@@StoopidAsianKidso.... Have we sat down and looked at a stark varg? Thing is almost identical to a, I wanna say 450? And out performs gas in every way that isn't range/mileage
It's open class, you absolute waste of oxygen
So you're saying they're better? Why not let the old tech die
Vargs are almost the same weight as a 450
5 minutes later: "Battery low"
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I would never be proud of my self if i was in a gas categaroy on an ebike. Personally. Win wasnt deserved.
Nobody is complaining about electric motors. The problem is the batteries.
Racing a 80 horse bike against 45 horse bikes is unfair ...and like someone else said ""I don't hate electric bikes .I hate that they want to eliminate gas bikes and make us buy electric""
lmao you're so bought and paid for by gas propaganda it's so sad you think someone is going to come take away your little toy.
Proper men have engines 😂
"bUt If ThE rAcE wAs LoNgEr" my ETX150 with it's 950km range would stomp a formula one car in a desert, but I'm not bitching about that while watching F1, electrics are insanely good in Motocross due to the races being short and technical.
"Watch me go real fast in a straight line". Awesome.
Yes, electric is NOT there yet.
it's only not there if you like to ride in the boonies for 8 hours. this crap wouldn't fly in glamis, pismo beach, hollister hills and especially not at clear creek recreational area.
a big part of the fun of riding is being out there actually riding for hours and hours, not sitting at camp running your generator to charge your bike.
F electric cars and bikes , they have no sound or soul.
Now let's see it run a 4 hour Enduro. lol
Sur-ron placed 3rd in a 24hr long Enduro on their full size electric storm bee. 🙂
@@electricisbetter Good on them, but a glorified electric pushbike is different to an electric motorbike.
Hurry up and build me a decent and affordable EV motorbike.
It shouldn't be a problem. If a gasoline bike can refuel then an electric bike should be allowed to swap out depleted batteries for charged ones.
If the bike is designed right it should take just a few seconds.
@@roberteltze4850 Another part of my point.
@@roberteltze4850 Another part of my point.
You like your steak microwaved or barbecued?
For dirtbikes, yes.
How's your last place trophy taste loser😂
Neither, I like it cooked properly
Rider- “hey hold on guys battery is low lemme recharge before we go another 30mins and I have to recharge again”
Most of the fun is from shifting thru gears and listening to your engine. Aka skill..
Gas is better. Why? Because its cheaper, it sounds awesome and There not made by the Chinese . EV's do have the torque though.
The Stark Varg weighs 242 lbs. That’s less than a CRF450R with a full tank.
@@TranceFuris it less than an rm250 with a full tank though? 😂
@@RahkanMassaaja it has more power than a 250
@@fetB nope
@@strammerdetlef Stark is 80HP. Name a 250 that has more
I'm sure your boyfriend was very proud of your big win.
If that helps you sleep better at night after losing...
gas is way better and has more power
Not true at the slightest just look up if the best electric dirt bike is better than the best gas dirt bike electric is much more powerful and efficient
@@BenRipz67it’s not more efficient
@@BenRipz67 hell tf yeah its ture ive had experience with gas and electric and i can guarantee you dirt bikes have way more power and climbing power + traction
@@BenRipz67 and gas lasts way longer and covers longer distances
@@BenRipz67 and plus you can manuever better and is way more stable at higher speeds
You can never replace the feeling of riding a good 2 stroke. I miss my RM 250 bored over 30 so technically a 280.
Congratulations on being as honest as a politician, as long as you ignore the context of any criticism then you can’t be wrong right?
Ngl it’s basically cheating, no need to shift just hands on brake and throttle absolutely no skill gained here.