The province is entirely mountainous, which limits its economic scope and development growth. Compare that to the province of Madurai at the southern tip of India. It has seven holdings, five of which are either coastal or farmlands (or both). It also has a high starting development of 25 in the 867 start. Makes it an ideal place to be an economic powerhouse on its own.
5:20 Fun fact: The Dutchy of Bohemia is one of the few that start of with „House Seniority“ as Succession Law what make‘s it one of the best starting locations if you intent to play Tall
@@derekskelton4187 It's probably the best place if you want to go tall, as BOhemia if im not mistaken has the same dejure land for both Duchy and Kingdom, so once you become King of Bohemia and that is your primary title you will always inherit all of Bohemia regardless of succession law with your primary heir. Also get landed clergy by reforming your religion so you as the King can hold Churches and you have 7 Holdings that you can fully own in that one province.
Currently playing a roleplay game as the Vijaya, legacy being the one of the oldest dynasties. (The shit goes back to like 100AD holy shit) End game goal is to conquer India.
a tip for players who struggle about sucsession, just send your children to join the clergy or holy order and make sure to educate them to have virtous trait so they wont reject the demand to join the clergy or holy order
I just play high learning celibate rulers and rush down absolute crown authority so I can designate my heirs. It takes two generation depending on whether it's innovation boosted or not.
i just play as patition, then i destroy al titles, just keep the main... And i create a 1 county title for every son... Playing with Stewardship make it preaty easy
Declare a holy war to someone, send your son(s) you dont want to that war with minimal support. They usually die or get captured. If they get captured, dont pay the ransom and they should die in captivity eventually
I'd still prefer a smaller province with better environments. Hills and mountains are good defensively, but are terrible for economy. Give me Kiev or Praha with the lower barony count, but multiple farmlands any day.
And of course, now with royal court, having a province with this many mountainous holdings in it is kind of overpowered; good thing they nerfed it, i guess
@@belmarduk Not really, the benefits of Mountain Homes gives doesn't make Mountains as strong as Plains for large barony count Counties, not even close.
You should put all your eggs into one duchy (my personal favorite is the duchy of Sardinia). Add feudal elective to it (make sure no one else holds any counties in it) as well as form the kingdom of Sardinia (forgot the full name) and you'll always inherit the entire duchy's counties. Just remember to actually vote, ofc
I am playing a Viking play through, you can have less sons by killing them in battle, disinherit before death, and I also rotate 3 duchies, by giving 1 to my heir when they are young and they will automatically get the duchy with capital, then give the 3rd to his heir, rotating between.
The amount of testing I had to do... Here I thought it was like CK2 where barony titles worked like every title and would go to all children equally, but it looks like all baronies in your main county go to eldest
@@iamironman12365 your not wrong about the skill ceiling but the mountains for econ is just abysmal haha. Personally I think southern India is the best, there's a county with 7 slots and the development is 25, plus the counties around it have high development aswell.
Mountains are great! I've been wrecking face as Gilan lately, making more money off the constant holy wars against me than if I conquered my muslim neighbors myself! Single county with a mountain fort and a river forces the AI to come to you.
Cagliari is the best province. Holding sub holdings reduces the number of building slots to 3. You get a better ROI building a city over a castle. There are tons of ways to control your inheritance that holding the duchy of Sardinia and occasionally having to revoke titles from your sibling vessels then what ever. It’s not that difficult. And the mine means mercs on mercs.
Its thick with 8 but its duchy is tiny and its not even the duchy capital so u can't have the duchy building on top of all that its freaking mountains personally I think paris is the best to play tall a good duchy with lot of plains
This doesn't work anymore, Zahumlje has been divided and now it have 5 slots and the new county, zelengora, have 3, giving a total of 8 slots, including the capital castle, so basically they are 2 normal counties now
I forget the name but there is a place in Manding with a decent amount of building slots and a mine that you can get fully leveled up to 14 gold per month
Madurai in india is the BEST county in the game, i dont care what this guy says. Few less holdings but off the charts development growth! Besides, people are too scared about succession in this game. If you learn to properly manage it, its quite easy to keep your stuff. Theres many ways to resolve your succession. In early game, best way to do it is to conquer new land for your other children to inherit, give it to them and you are just fine or... you could always send your unwanted sons to suicide mission in wars! I personally like to keep my kids on the land of the living to generate me more dynasty memebers and renown! On top of that, you have holy orders and monks and what not. Your kids are guaranteed to accept ''taking the vows'' if you ''raise'' them properly. That means, be the guardian yourself and select virtuous traits for them and make them a scholar or knight (depends where you want to send them)!
@@BigSteelThrill nerd. As if you could pronounce this correctly in real life, lol. If anyone has a problem with the us education system blame it on the people who would rather teach about pronouns, then math and science.
@@BigSteelThrill you didn't even say anything. That is why you are a nerd. Of course if you REALLY want to start comparing the IQs of various political demographics you probably won't like what you find.
It is bad terrain for development. I prefer that 7 holding county near Sri Lanka. Coastal for trade ports, starting high development. Or there are some very good counties when you follow the Ganges, very rich farmlands.
You should be able to destroy one of your bees as long as you have a different one of its kind already built I don’t understand why that’s not a mechanic. Sometimes we have the cities or temples. Those are better locations for castles.
Not by a long shot. Madurai in southern India is the best county in the game. It has seven holdings. I believe five are farmlands/coastal and four are coastal. This means that you can build four tradeports, which will boost your development rate stupid high. On the early start, I easily outpace the rest of the world in development by a wide margin by 950. That's with conquering Madurai and changing the culture first (so about 10 years wasted there). I usually start as the island to the southeast (can't remember the name), but you can easily conquer Madurai, convert the culture and be a culture-head with very high development. The other thing that makes it so good is location. You're in southern India, so there's really only one way for enemies to come at you. If you conquer the two counties north of Madurai, you are defended by rivers on both side, making it easily one of the most defensible areas in the game without sacrificing any economy (Zahumlje is hard to take due to mountains, but that also murders your economy). Madurai is by far the strongest county in CK3.
Who gives a damn about India lol. Tamilikam is unstoppable. The only frustrating thing is being 100 years ahead of the tech game by 1000AD and having to wait around a couple of generations before you can make any more progress.
You need 2500 gold just to build the castles and province is poor af. I prefer to varangian adventure myself into Sardinia and and have easly defendable island with great economy and scandinavian elective law so I inherit everything
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This guy has "friend giving me a 3 am lecture energy" and I love it. Zahumlje.
Zahumlje to you too brother
This is so accurate
I’m watching this at 3am and I agree with you so hard
You're a goddam poet.
Is Zahumlje a Dutchie capital?
In some strategy games, the final boss is a major historical figure. In CK3 the final boss is your own children that fuck up all your hard work.
Historically accurate
The province is entirely mountainous, which limits its economic scope and development growth. Compare that to the province of Madurai at the southern tip of India. It has seven holdings, five of which are either coastal or farmlands (or both). It also has a high starting development of 25 in the 867 start. Makes it an ideal place to be an economic powerhouse on its own.
you smell weird
yeah but no one cares about India. That place doesn't exist. xD
@@Hybrids17 Bielefeld?
This is by far the best tall start in the game
There’s a plains tile you can move the capital to, neglecting the development bonus
5:20 Fun fact: The Dutchy of Bohemia is one of the few that start of with „House Seniority“ as Succession Law what make‘s it one of the best starting locations if you intent to play Tall
Those gold mines too. Great start
@@derekskelton4187 It's probably the best place if you want to go tall, as BOhemia if im not mistaken has the same dejure land for both Duchy and Kingdom, so once you become King of Bohemia and that is your primary title you will always inherit all of Bohemia regardless of succession law with your primary heir.
Also get landed clergy by reforming your religion so you as the King can hold Churches and you have 7 Holdings that you can fully own in that one province.
@@harz632 you can play an insanely powerful tall Ireland if you want to be pure tyrannical.
Just watch for the cumans
Does tall mean long?
It's been changed, now the biggest counties are Khotan, Nasaiya, Gurganj and Madurai at 7, Zahumlje now Zachlumia only has 5.
honestly 5 is still way too many for super mountanous regions, i have no idea what standard they use when deciding county size and amount of baronies.
Currently playing a roleplay game as the Vijaya, legacy being the one of the oldest dynasties. (The shit goes back to like 100AD holy shit) End game goal is to conquer India.
@@emylily8266 they are roughly based upon the provinces of real-life.
Which one is the best of all of them?
Where are these
a tip for players who struggle about sucsession, just send your children to join the clergy or holy order and make sure to educate them to have virtous trait so they wont reject the demand to join the clergy or holy order
I just play high learning celibate rulers and rush down absolute crown authority so I can designate my heirs. It takes two generation depending on whether it's innovation boosted or not.
i just play as patition, then i destroy al titles, just keep the main... And i create a 1 county title for every son... Playing with Stewardship make it preaty easy
I just play high stewardship and use the right tree to get away with sibling murdering shenanigans or I'll just disinherit bad kids.
if that doesn't work, you can always throw them into a dungeon and wait until they die in like 10 years
Him: "You're not gonna murder your sons"
Me, who murdered his son because I couldn't force him to be a monk or disinherit him: "Interesting"
When you send your kid to the Byzantine with terrible prowess to solve the heritage dispute.
@@skullcrusher8123 when you are norse and send your 4 prowess inbred son to varangian guard
@@kila200...But he returns as gigachad.
Declare a holy war to someone, send your son(s) you dont want to that war with minimal support. They usually die or get captured. If they get captured, dont pay the ransom and they should die in captivity eventually
I'd still prefer a smaller province with better environments. Hills and mountains are good defensively, but are terrible for economy. Give me Kiev or Praha with the lower barony count, but multiple farmlands any day.
Those flooded land in Egypt and Mesopotamia tho!
@@Viet_Nam_Ball yeah, the duchy of Bagdad is completely op ahah
@@Vinzz99 Bangdad**
And of course, now with royal court, having a province with this many mountainous holdings in it is kind of overpowered; good thing they nerfed it, i guess
@@belmarduk Not really, the benefits of Mountain Homes gives doesn't make Mountains as strong as Plains for large barony count Counties, not even close.
You should put all your eggs into one duchy (my personal favorite is the duchy of Sardinia). Add feudal elective to it (make sure no one else holds any counties in it) as well as form the kingdom of Sardinia (forgot the full name) and you'll always inherit the entire duchy's counties. Just remember to actually vote, ofc
This is the better way to go, even staying as a three duchy independent duke works pretty well this way.
Take a shot every time he says Zahumllje. See you all in the hospital.
Love the tone of this one. Dunno why RUclips recommended this video to me a year late, but I'm here.
Man I’m really happy I popped on your video. Most personality I’ve seen for a CK content creator and honestly so refreshing to have.
If you're min maxing, you don't go by provinces, though. Yo go by duchy size and special buildings.
They nerfed the Balkan duchy. Cut the large province into two.
I am playing a Viking play through, you can have less sons by killing them in battle, disinherit before death, and I also rotate 3 duchies, by giving 1 to my heir when they are young and they will automatically get the duchy with capital, then give the 3rd to his heir, rotating between.
That's a good trick, i will try that one
@@twojstarypijany3182 how do you give duchies to your heir?
The amount of testing I had to do... Here I thought it was like CK2 where barony titles worked like every title and would go to all children equally, but it looks like all baronies in your main county go to eldest
I tried this out and it seems like the county got nerfed, it’s got only 5 holding slots now unfortunately
Aw, RIP Zuhumlje.
It's been split into two counties.
It is pronounced Za-Hum-Lie. Not Za-Hum-Lje. Greetings from Croatia 😃
Prisiklo me svaki put kad bi reka "zahumlidži" 💀
I feel like ultimately a county with fewer holdings but higher dev is better, especially since that county is in the mountains
i can understand that, i just highly value a high floor for succession , and more stacking retinues bonuses
@@iamironman12365 your not wrong about the skill ceiling but the mountains for econ is just abysmal haha. Personally I think southern India is the best, there's a county with 7 slots and the development is 25, plus the counties around it have high development aswell.
Mountains are great! I've been wrecking face as Gilan lately, making more money off the constant holy wars against me than if I conquered my muslim neighbors myself! Single county with a mountain fort and a river forces the AI to come to you.
no longer the most cool county. they fixed this already
It's since been split into multiple counties. Now the best province in the world is Madurai, 7 provinces and 25-30 dev.
Cagliari is the best province. Holding sub holdings reduces the number of building slots to 3. You get a better ROI building a city over a castle. There are tons of ways to control your inheritance that holding the duchy of Sardinia and occasionally having to revoke titles from your sibling vessels then what ever. It’s not that difficult. And the mine means mercs on mercs.
unfortunately the terrain is kind of lackluster, but i love it anyway. could be a sweet stronghold with shloads of military buildings
Rome and Byzantium are still better coz they have some insane buildings there. The Theodosian walls itself should count as one big castle holding
This is now my new favourite video on RUclips, just so randomly funny
Him: your brother is gonna inherit these two...
Me: they are arrested since birth 😂
Good work man haha I always want to find someone to shoot it straight and simple when it comes to these damn games
this is no longer in the game btw, its 2 counties now.
“Not gonna murder your sons” me killing all my spare sons before I die
LOL... subbed because you made me crack up.
Unfortunately it got split so now doesn't have 8 :(
Bill Burr kind of advice for CK3 :D
On the dutchy aspect would it be better to be a duke holding many smaller dutchies or would it be better to hold larger ones
Zsha-hoo-mul-yae
Wife is Serbian and was making fun of my pronunciation.
That India bit was hilarious, gives me stand up comedy vibes
Drink a shot every time you hear Zahumlje :-) Nice vid.
rip zahujimle got nerfed its a 5 slot now
Its thick with 8 but its duchy is tiny and its not even the duchy capital so u can't have the duchy building on top of all that its freaking mountains personally I think paris is the best to play tall a good duchy with lot of plains
"who gives a shit about india"
Lol couldn't agree more
This still haven't changed
This doesn't work anymore, Zahumlje has been divided and now it have 5 slots and the new county, zelengora, have 3, giving a total of 8 slots, including the capital castle, so basically they are 2 normal counties now
sad but true
I forget the name but there is a place in Manding with a decent amount of building slots and a mine that you can get fully leveled up to 14 gold per month
Very nice, what do you think of Giurgiu County and, subsequently, Muntenian Duchy and Walachia Kingdom?
they cut it in half😭
Fucking Zahumlajie, what a legendary place of greatness.
I failed as the Byzantines, now I feel sad :(
Very informative video thanks dood
Im cracking up 😂 "Zaahuumleejeee"
Are you the Bill Burr of videogames or someshit? LOL
Edit. R.I.P. Zahumlje
"someone's calling me, I dont care what they have to say". what a menace this guy is. Hail Zahumlje
because i played with "buy building slot" & "north african can raid" mod this vould be a perfect province for me, thank you
Madurai in india is the BEST county in the game, i dont care what this guy says. Few less holdings but off the charts development growth!
Besides, people are too scared about succession in this game. If you learn to properly manage it, its quite easy to keep your stuff. Theres many ways to resolve your succession. In early game, best way to do it is to conquer new land for your other children to inherit, give it to them and you are just fine or... you could always send your unwanted sons to suicide mission in wars! I personally like to keep my kids on the land of the living to generate me more dynasty memebers and renown!
On top of that, you have holy orders and monks and what not. Your kids are guaranteed to accept ''taking the vows'' if you ''raise'' them properly. That means, be the guardian yourself and select virtuous traits for them and make them a scholar or knight (depends where you want to send them)!
I love your pronouncation of zahumlje
can you do a Zahumleje run?
They reduced the holdings in there :((
Bro where's my tallboi Zahumlje run, I been waiting
Im going to play Croatia now
Edit: it got nerfed no longer playing Croatia
I Lol'd all the way thru.
Zahumlje no longer has this... sadly :)
yeah so this has been changed unfortunately, was gonna try it out
God bless Americans, their education system and the way they prononuce Slavic names.
We have a long standing political group here that talks smack on the educated and colleges and embrace being dumb as a "folksy" appeal. Sad.
@@BigSteelThrill nerd. As if you could pronounce this correctly in real life, lol. If anyone has a problem with the us education system blame it on the people who would rather teach about pronouns, then math and science.
@@sfteevee8303 And yet nothing I said was incorrect.
@@BigSteelThrill you didn't even say anything. That is why you are a nerd. Of course if you REALLY want to start comparing the IQs of various political demographics you probably won't like what you find.
you could just hold the actual best holdings and get your succession down properly...
It's only got 4, since the games release its been split in two
god damn this video was funny
Actually I accidentally clicked on this video
Me that don't k ow what primogeniture do and still do t have problems in 400 years game
not even close pronouncing Zahumlje but respect for the effort
I read that place as Zaclumia 🤣
rip zahumlje
Not anymore now they divided it into two counties
They changed it to a 5 spot :(
It is bad terrain for development. I prefer that 7 holding county near Sri Lanka. Coastal for trade ports, starting high development. Or there are some very good counties when you follow the Ganges, very rich farmlands.
The year is 2023 and the county has been split in 2 by a 5/3 split between the now 2 counties. Still good but the devs destroy everything
I’m really upset that they made it smaller
This trick is done for Zehumlje just got nerf big time 😂😂
Insane he couldn’t find Baghdad on a map lmao
You should be able to destroy one of your bees as long as you have a different one of its kind already built I don’t understand why that’s not a mechanic. Sometimes we have the cities or temples. Those are better locations for castles.
Lmaooo dude you’re fuckin hilarious 😂😂😂😂
Thanks 😃
I like how he goes the incredible effort to pronounce "Il de France" correctly but totally butchers "Zahumlje".
You sound like Bill Burr
I must be using a mod that changes the map. Because the county is only 6 baronies for me.
Northern lords dlc must change it to 6
I wanna see him losing a battle reaction
A full video of him losing is gonna be good
Zahumlje wasnt part of Croatia, it was populated by Serbs, and still is, just some of them converted to other nations.
Not by a long shot. Madurai in southern India is the best county in the game. It has seven holdings. I believe five are farmlands/coastal and four are coastal. This means that you can build four tradeports, which will boost your development rate stupid high. On the early start, I easily outpace the rest of the world in development by a wide margin by 950. That's with conquering Madurai and changing the culture first (so about 10 years wasted there). I usually start as the island to the southeast (can't remember the name), but you can easily conquer Madurai, convert the culture and be a culture-head with very high development. The other thing that makes it so good is location. You're in southern India, so there's really only one way for enemies to come at you. If you conquer the two counties north of Madurai, you are defended by rivers on both side, making it easily one of the most defensible areas in the game without sacrificing any economy (Zahumlje is hard to take due to mountains, but that also murders your economy). Madurai is by far the strongest county in CK3.
this seems like a developer oversite
They split it into 2 provinces it seems
Who gives a damn about India lol. Tamilikam is unstoppable. The only frustrating thing is being 100 years ahead of the tech game by 1000AD and having to wait around a couple of generations before you can make any more progress.
It's pronounced zahumlye
Laghing so hard here haha :)
But why tf did they make it so it has 8? :D
India sounds like the place to be to me
vi-KING of Mann is best
There are kingdoms with less holdings
I m bosnian, there is a letter called NJ, which is kinda these two zogrther, but it is more similar to N. So pronounce Zahumle
Go back to ZahumljeDZI
Kiev is better no?
You need 2500 gold just to build the castles and province is poor af. I prefer to varangian adventure myself into Sardinia and and have easly defendable island with great economy and scandinavian elective law so I inherit everything
Edgy and dense, that’s rare.
It's pronounced Zahumlye.
They split it into 2 countiesit seems
Madurai is the best county now in 1.8.1
thank god they nerfed that