Holy crap! You said out loud what I have been reticent to say all along. Our little hobby is one terrible faux pas away from being eliminated. I can't put a timeline on it but in the coming days months or years somebody will do something terrible with one of our beloved toys and effectively put an end to our little hobby once and for all. 😢
@@ABDULLAH-789-h2d What fascinates me is that there's 330 million people here Plus probably another 50 million transient? I'm shocked it hasn't happened already.
I'm actually surprised the Horizon BNF models don't come with RID already. I think there is a possibility that 3D printing will satisfy the demand for planes beside Cubs, Mustangs and F16s.
really ? i think scale will have a downturn and purpose built sort of fpv models like atomrc dolphins, heewing T1s and nano goblins will be more popular
I can imagine controlling a holographic RC plane (think RC flight simulator but IRL) using a controller and linking up to a holographic projector to create a simulation of flying RC. Of course I’m guessing this tech won’t be commercially available and affordable until 2075 but that’s what I think of when I think future RC.
I don't doubt that a lot of subscribers to this channel are into scale aircraft, but more and more run into people who just don't care about scale aircraft.
I agree that it is not as important to many RC pilots. Many of my RC planes are not based on real planes... but I suspect designs that are somewhat scale might be useful to manufacturers. And that might keep scale designs from disappearing completely. Full-size planes don't have the shapes that they do because an engineer thought it would look cool. They have the shape/design because it fit the designer's goal and they were optimized for that goal. When RC planes want a plane that can accomplish a similar task, they will look at the full scale equivalents. Now, they might make their own design while copying key features. But that still means they have to to iterative developments to get something that can be flown and mass produced. Instead they can attempt to scale down an stablished design that a real engineer designed. The RC manufacturers will still have to tweak some things as not everything scales well or equally. But it does give a good starting point. Furthermore, by basing it off a real plane, it gives the design some credibility and marketability. An example of this is my PA18 Super Cub. Personally, I could care less how scale it actually is. I doubt most would consider it to be super scale. I bought it because I wanted a bush plane.... something with tough landing gear (which helps where I fly) and something that is capable of some STOL stuff. FMS based their bush plane design on a well known Alaskan bush plane... the Piper PA-18 Super Cub. For me, it ticks the boxes of what I'm looking for. For FMS, it gave them a starting point for the design. Plus, anyone that searches for the PA-18 will be able to get an idea of what it was designed to do, which helps in the marketing.
Karens , the pan also brought out the worst in people and their sense of entitlement to never be offended by anything ever . . Many hobbies don't fit into this box of compliance , and are thus deemed non-inclusive , inappropriate and unnecessary . They'll hide behind safety concerns and noise complaints, but in the end ...they just don't want anyone to have fun or smile .
In the immediate future I think the sub 250g bracket is going to be the big earner look at the success of UMX etc. As it all gets more micro how about sub 250g with flaps lights and retracts . . . If there aren't folk out there already working on that I would be amazed.
This isn’t true at all. I fly fpv quadcopters and am now getting into rc planes. I hate that our hobby is being used for war elsewhere, but such is the nature of humanity. Anything good will also be used for evil. It will also be much less likely to be used by regular folk for the same reason that most aholes who murder people tend to overwhelmingly use guns instead of explosives. They’re just easier to get and to use. Meanwhile, explosive UAVs add a whole layer of complexity which increases the likelihood of failure. People don’t get on a list for buying a couple guns, they get on a list for buying a lot of guns or for buying explosives materials. This brings down the likelihood of this kind of attack domestically by civilians significantly. Of course, I’m still scared of the more likely attack- disenfranchised young male American shooters. Anyway, to your attempt at distinction- fpv quads and rc planes are both weaoponized in foreign wars. Plane airframes are used for longer range strikes. Personally, I wouldn’t mind the FAA created a lower weight and size UAV class for quads and planes. I’m not sure what the ceiling should be on weight because I’m new to rc planes- is 5lbs enough? With my quadcopters I’m plenty happy with 3.5” or smaller prop builds, which are too small to be weaponized. Even 5” builds which is the upper limit for freestyle still don’t have the power for carrying weapon loads with 4 normal size (ie 2205 or so motors.) For planes, I’m sure similar limits would allow for plenty of fun and hobbying without the potential to carry too much (ie dangerous materials). Thoughts?
In the future, the batteries will have more energy density. Electric motors will be smaller and more power efficient. Electronic will be more advance. We 'll have scale models cheaper, longer flying time, durable material. Less worries of crashing
I think batteries have a lot of room for improvement. I think physics limits the amount of improvement possible with electric motors. I don't think electric motors will improve a lot.
If regulations continue breaking the hobby like they currently are, especially in europe, the entire hobby will die out. Maybe not in the US, but in europe the regulations are ridiculous. At this point it is easier to fly a "real" plane. I have a PPL and the drone licence, and for me it is much less of a pita to travel one hour to the airfield, rather than try and figure out what class of rc plane I am flying, register the aircraft, check for one of the rare areas I can fly (out of the multiple different maps we need to check), and pay a yearly fee to the government just to fly a sub 250g dlg, or small cub.
That DJI Neo feels like the future, cheap no controller needed. Anyone can buy one and be flying a few minutes later. They are mostly going to be alot of e-waste but it's going to be alot of people's first flying toy
I think we'll be flying the same classical models, but new even more lightweight materials will come. Planes will get bigger and lighter at the same time.
The moment the Ukraine started using hobby grade rcdrones to such spectacular effect. Politicians get scared they begin regulating the fun out of anything.
Currently researching laser cutters. Have been 3d printing for over 5 years, that has made a huge difference for my rc life. I think a laser cutter will do the same. Now if i could just stop buying 12 foot Bushmasters i could afford one much easier.
Last time I commented of one of tail heavy’s amazing vids, i stated that I get so many cool ideas from them. Sadly my fav plane just crashed as I tried to do a hoop of death with consendo evo with bush wheels. While I love the hobby and crashing is just part of the hobby, it definitely discourages sometimes
I never knew Twisted Hobbies was a Czech company... Also, shout out to the RC Sailors and the Slovenian Crash Brothers, the two worst representatives of the hobby.
Receivers are too easy to DIY. A law could require receiver be sold with remote ID but it will be easy for people to just make their own receivers. ELRS is already open source. Anyone can make there own hardware.
@@ddegn in Myanmar rebel forces have been 3D printing locally-designed drones (and guns!) and using them to attack the junta military in the ongoing civil war. Ukraine's been getting all the attention but the civil war in Myanmar is really becoming "the maker war"
-- Damn, I didn't thought you going to post something soon, as flight season for pips up North is wining down. What a pleasant surprise, and great "food for thought" i.e. subject to ponder. I have to say nothing will transform hobby more in the next 25 years, and hobby will be even more cheaper, since publicly available CAD and 3D printing. I was wondering what will happen to hobby when many vendors like for example Webra and Max Headers will go out of business, for one reason or the other. Of course as of right now, although electric powered aircraft have POWE-Ah to spare, they are still too heavy, but as far as I'm concern electric powered RC airplanes already "eat" ICE engine "lunch" in past ~20-25 years, so future 3D printed electrics, as for me, I like 'em all, nitro or gas, 2-strokes or 4 strokes, and of course electrics. Thanks! ... and keep 'em coming, Tail Heavy Production team!
RID becoming less of a nuisance to comply with I can believe, but I don't really see it being an effective means of preventing anything since it's functionally unenforceable. The physics of flight don't care about RID, and nobody with malicious intent is going to bother installing it.
"Turbines replacing EDFs for mid-level pilots?" This will never happen, even if they were twice cheaper then now (which is unlikely). Mostly because of safety - if you piledrive a turbine jet into the ground there is a huge change of a fire, when the hot turbine rams the fuel tank. Me and a few of my colleagues could easily afford that, but we fly EDFs because we don't want to risk burning the corn fields and hay bales around our field. My personal predictions is the other way around - that the progress in batteries (increase in energy and power density) will make EDFs replace turbines in most cases. All we need is to double the current values, which should be possible with solid-state batteries in a few years. If you could have a large jet hover - without the noise, smelly exhaust, risk of fire and obligatory maintenance schedule, would you not make a switch?
Before I press play, my personal belief is that thanks to the advent of technology making it possible, someone is going to attempt an assassination with one of these, be successful, and there goes our hobby.
i think a safe prediction is Horizon Hobby servo's will still be awful quality and continue to either be faulty out of the box or fail in the first one or two flights. Those linear servo's are the worst culprit.....
I'm bummed that the big Carbon-Z Trojan (especially the White and Orange painted one) seems to be permanently discontinued in europe. I can seemingly never find the parts I need or it is out of stock.
@@Beef3D maybe try and 3d print your own,it could work.if you dont have a 3d printer,go to a 3d printer service.or you could just make a simple foam wing yourself.
lets talk about 15 years ago, when planes were everywhere and cheap. Now with horizon having the stronghold on everything the future looks bleak, its gonna be $499 for a slow stick RTF, Guarantee they will have a $999 foamie before 2030
"horizon having the stronghold on everything" Who needs Horizon? It's easier than ever to make your own airplane. If you want a RTF airplane there are lots of places to purchase RTF aircraft other than Horizon. 3D printing is making it easier for people to make their own parts. I purchased my first RC helicopter in the early 1980's. It was crazy expensive. RC aircraft and RC gear has only gotten better and more affordable since then.
As for where will we go after China gets too expensive to build things. It's easy. China developed a middle class and they're pricing themselves out of cheap labor. So places like Vietnam and South America are filling in the voids. As far as you and I are concerned in our lifetimes there is always going to be a "China". It just may not be in China....
He estado unos 45 años en el hobby. construyendo escala y mis propios modelos. (más livianos, más rápidos,más lentos,más original . Si uno de cada 20 Construye sus propios diseños, quedarán pocas ideas. Sólo que no se ven todos. Veo en el futuro, servos con "reciver" integrado y recargables. No extra batery.
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I'd wager that scratchbuilding will continue to grow in popularity, now that Lasercutters and 3D Printers are becoming more commonplace
Amazing video guys ❤
In a country with more guns than people, we are supposed to be worried about drones?!
And your still more likely to die in a car accident
Holy crap! You said out loud what I have been reticent to say all along. Our little hobby is one terrible faux pas away from being eliminated. I can't put a timeline on it but in the coming days months or years somebody will do something terrible with one of our beloved toys and effectively put an end to our little hobby once and for all. 😢
I wanted to comment about this before but didn't want to do so. I hope it never happens but.... It'll be a sad day when it does.
@@amp86400 It almost seems like saying it out loud May precipitate it? All it takes is just one idiot. Just one. Then the hobby is trashed.
i hope that never happens
@@ABDULLAH-789-h2d What fascinates me is that there's 330 million people here Plus probably another 50 million transient? I'm shocked it hasn't happened already.
i suppose they have been used for some things....remember those DJI near aircraft misses on purpose?but those were not rc planes
I hope that companies can expand on scale aircraft. There’s plenty of Cubs, Mustangs and F-16s out there.
I'm actually surprised the Horizon BNF models don't come with RID already. I think there is a possibility that 3D printing will satisfy the demand for planes beside Cubs, Mustangs and F16s.
really ? i think scale will have a downturn and purpose built sort of fpv models like atomrc dolphins, heewing T1s and nano goblins will be more popular
That front wing catch was ballsy. Lol Something about a spinning prop coming at my face makes me not try that one.
I can imagine controlling a holographic RC plane (think RC flight simulator but IRL) using a controller and linking up to a holographic projector to create a simulation of flying RC. Of course I’m guessing this tech won’t be commercially available and affordable until 2075 but that’s what I think of when I think future RC.
I don't think that scale is as important as you think. I'm predicting that scale will fade along with the fascination with WW2.
I don't doubt that a lot of subscribers to this channel are into scale aircraft, but more and more run into people who just don't care about scale aircraft.
I agree that it is not as important to many RC pilots. Many of my RC planes are not based on real planes... but I suspect designs that are somewhat scale might be useful to manufacturers. And that might keep scale designs from disappearing completely.
Full-size planes don't have the shapes that they do because an engineer thought it would look cool. They have the shape/design because it fit the designer's goal and they were optimized for that goal. When RC planes want a plane that can accomplish a similar task, they will look at the full scale equivalents. Now, they might make their own design while copying key features. But that still means they have to to iterative developments to get something that can be flown and mass produced. Instead they can attempt to scale down an stablished design that a real engineer designed. The RC manufacturers will still have to tweak some things as not everything scales well or equally. But it does give a good starting point. Furthermore, by basing it off a real plane, it gives the design some credibility and marketability.
An example of this is my PA18 Super Cub. Personally, I could care less how scale it actually is. I doubt most would consider it to be super scale. I bought it because I wanted a bush plane.... something with tough landing gear (which helps where I fly) and something that is capable of some STOL stuff. FMS based their bush plane design on a well known Alaskan bush plane... the Piper PA-18 Super Cub. For me, it ticks the boxes of what I'm looking for. For FMS, it gave them a starting point for the design. Plus, anyone that searches for the PA-18 will be able to get an idea of what it was designed to do, which helps in the marketing.
Karens , the pan also brought out the worst in people and their sense of entitlement to never be offended by anything ever . .
Many hobbies don't fit into this box of compliance , and are thus deemed non-inclusive , inappropriate and unnecessary . They'll hide behind safety concerns and noise complaints, but in the end ...they just don't want anyone to have fun or smile .
Cheap planes will have an autopilot that can kick in at a set lower altitude to avoid some crashes and also flyaways for line of sight.
In the immediate future I think the sub 250g bracket is going to be the big earner look at the success of UMX etc. As it all gets more micro how about sub 250g with flaps lights and retracts . . . If there aren't folk out there already working on that I would be amazed.
Honestly a lot of the issues with potential drone terrorists can be solved but just regulating drones and fixed wings differently.
Fixed wing can be used in an attack just as effectively as a drone
Prevention is better the cure, don't breed the political environment which that course of action is needed.
This isn’t true at all. I fly fpv quadcopters and am now getting into rc planes. I hate that our hobby is being used for war elsewhere, but such is the nature of humanity. Anything good will also be used for evil. It will also be much less likely to be used by regular folk for the same reason that most aholes who murder people tend to overwhelmingly use guns instead of explosives. They’re just easier to get and to use. Meanwhile, explosive UAVs add a whole layer of complexity which increases the likelihood of failure. People don’t get on a list for buying a couple guns, they get on a list for buying a lot of guns or for buying explosives materials. This brings down the likelihood of this kind of attack domestically by civilians significantly. Of course, I’m still scared of the more likely attack- disenfranchised young male American shooters.
Anyway, to your attempt at distinction- fpv quads and rc planes are both weaoponized in foreign wars. Plane airframes are used for longer range strikes.
Personally, I wouldn’t mind the FAA created a lower weight and size UAV class for quads and planes. I’m not sure what the ceiling should be on weight because I’m new to rc planes- is 5lbs enough? With my quadcopters I’m plenty happy with 3.5” or smaller prop builds, which are too small to be weaponized. Even 5” builds which is the upper limit for freestyle still don’t have the power for carrying weapon loads with 4 normal size (ie 2205 or so motors.)
For planes, I’m sure similar limits would allow for plenty of fun and hobbying without the potential to carry too much (ie dangerous materials).
Thoughts?
Omg I commented before watching the video. My comment above was completely redundant. Maybe op did the same thing lol.
Definitely on the Icon A5 ! I have a pair of them because I joined the hobby after they were discontinued, come on V3!
Another super video😊
In the future, the batteries will have more energy density. Electric motors will be smaller and more power efficient. Electronic will be more advance. We 'll have scale models cheaper, longer flying time, durable material. Less worries of crashing
I think batteries have a lot of room for improvement. I think physics limits the amount of improvement possible with electric motors. I don't think electric motors will improve a lot.
Autonomous waypoint missions are already fairly cheap but niche today.
I think you are pretty naive about the "drone attack" threat and the ability of regulation to stop it.
If regulations continue breaking the hobby like they currently are, especially in europe, the entire hobby will die out. Maybe not in the US, but in europe the regulations are ridiculous. At this point it is easier to fly a "real" plane. I have a PPL and the drone licence, and for me it is much less of a pita to travel one hour to the airfield, rather than try and figure out what class of rc plane I am flying, register the aircraft, check for one of the rare areas I can fly (out of the multiple different maps we need to check), and pay a yearly fee to the government just to fly a sub 250g dlg, or small cub.
Wait, it’s still legal to fly without an FAA and AMA representative present?
That DJI Neo feels like the future, cheap no controller needed. Anyone can buy one and be flying a few minutes later. They are mostly going to be alot of e-waste but it's going to be alot of people's first flying toy
We are not going to reinvent the wheel.
Different batteries for longer flights.
New and more durable material.
Last. Some A.I sh*t.
0:23 what do you call the blue profile plane with V tail?
I think we'll be flying the same classical models, but new even more lightweight materials will come. Planes will get bigger and lighter at the same time.
Still waiting for the beechcraft turboprop lineup from motion RC
The moment the Ukraine started using hobby grade rcdrones to such spectacular effect. Politicians get scared they begin regulating the fun out of anything.
Currently researching laser cutters. Have been 3d printing for over 5 years, that has made a huge difference for my rc life. I think a laser cutter will do the same. Now if i could just stop buying 12 foot Bushmasters i could afford one much easier.
Just chill
😂
Last time I commented of one of tail heavy’s amazing vids, i stated that I get so many cool ideas from them. Sadly my fav plane just crashed as I tried to do a hoop of death with consendo evo with bush wheels. While I love the hobby and crashing is just part of the hobby, it definitely discourages sometimes
We for sure can relate to crashing being a drag! Sorry to hear it. You'll be back for more hoops of death in no time!
I never knew Twisted Hobbies was a Czech company...
Also, shout out to the RC Sailors and the Slovenian Crash Brothers, the two worst representatives of the hobby.
Hello, im fairly new to the hobby, could you tell me why exactly they are the worst? Just curious
I expect we will trend toward small, quiet and innocent-looking things as long as hysteria stays in vogue in our society.
I fly with an old futaba 7 cap I won’t have any remote ID built in my receiver 😂
It’s an oldie but a goodie 😂
For a 15 yr kid it’s nice reliable and I didn’t have to pay for it because it was my dads radio😂
Receivers are too easy to DIY. A law could require receiver be sold with remote ID but it will be easy for people to just make their own receivers. ELRS is already open source. Anyone can make there own hardware.
Scale IS probably the coolest Kind of RC plane for me and fot Christmas im getting a RC Cessna also live your vids
i love 777
6:42 you really need to become aware of a country called Myanmar
Was there a RC aircraft attack in Myanmar? How does Myanmar relate to the video? (Honest questions. Apparently I'm also ignorant on this topic.)
@@ddegn in Myanmar rebel forces have been 3D printing locally-designed drones (and guns!) and using them to attack the junta military in the ongoing civil war. Ukraine's been getting all the attention but the civil war in Myanmar is really becoming "the maker war"
-- Damn, I didn't thought you going to post something soon, as flight season for pips up North is wining down. What a pleasant surprise, and great "food for thought" i.e. subject to ponder. I have to say nothing will transform hobby more in the next 25 years, and hobby will be even more cheaper, since publicly available CAD and 3D printing. I was wondering what will happen to hobby when many vendors like for example Webra and Max Headers will go out of business, for one reason or the other. Of course as of right now, although electric powered aircraft have POWE-Ah to spare, they are still too heavy, but as far as I'm concern electric powered RC airplanes already "eat" ICE engine "lunch" in past ~20-25 years, so future 3D printed electrics, as for me, I like 'em all, nitro or gas, 2-strokes or 4 strokes, and of course electrics.
Thanks!
... and keep 'em coming, Tail Heavy Production team!
RID becoming less of a nuisance to comply with I can believe, but I don't really see it being an effective means of preventing anything since it's functionally unenforceable. The physics of flight don't care about RID, and nobody with malicious intent is going to bother installing it.
I wanna make my own 3d printed rc plane
"Turbines replacing EDFs for mid-level pilots?"
This will never happen, even if they were twice cheaper then now (which is unlikely). Mostly because of safety - if you piledrive a turbine jet into the ground there is a huge change of a fire, when the hot turbine rams the fuel tank. Me and a few of my colleagues could easily afford that, but we fly EDFs because we don't want to risk burning the corn fields and hay bales around our field.
My personal predictions is the other way around - that the progress in batteries (increase in energy and power density) will make EDFs replace turbines in most cases. All we need is to double the current values, which should be possible with solid-state batteries in a few years. If you could have a large jet hover - without the noise, smelly exhaust, risk of fire and obligatory maintenance schedule, would you not make a switch?
Before I press play, my personal belief is that thanks to the advent of technology making it possible, someone is going to attempt an assassination with one of these, be successful, and there goes our hobby.
Yes, rc got me in when i was young. Now its grow into a company who's drones have a big impact. Make work out of your hobby
I will NOT comply!
i think a safe prediction is Horizon Hobby servo's will still be awful quality and continue to either be faulty out of the box or fail in the first one or two flights. Those linear servo's are the worst culprit.....
I'm bummed that the big Carbon-Z Trojan (especially the White and Orange painted one) seems to be permanently discontinued in europe.
I can seemingly never find the parts I need or it is out of stock.
It went out of stock again??
@@BZCSquadron yep. in fact it seems to be discontinued in Horizon Hobby EU. you can still get certain parts for it but I can't find spare wings.
@@Beef3D maybe try and 3d print your own,it could work.if you dont have a 3d printer,go to a 3d printer service.or you could just make a simple foam wing yourself.
lets talk about 15 years ago, when planes were everywhere and cheap. Now with horizon having the stronghold on everything the future looks bleak, its gonna be $499 for a slow stick RTF, Guarantee they will have a $999 foamie before 2030
"horizon having the stronghold on everything"
Who needs Horizon? It's easier than ever to make your own airplane. If you want a RTF airplane there are lots of places to purchase RTF aircraft other than Horizon.
3D printing is making it easier for people to make their own parts.
I purchased my first RC helicopter in the early 1980's. It was crazy expensive. RC aircraft and RC gear has only gotten better and more affordable since then.
Man I hope you're right.
Love the clips from the Bros. Slovenia 🇸🇮! Salute!
saturday is a good day becuase of this channel!(by the way,i am planning to use glow for my trainer)
heloooooooooooooooooo
As for where will we go after China gets too expensive to build things. It's easy. China developed a middle class and they're pricing themselves out of cheap labor. So places like Vietnam and South America are filling in the voids. As far as you and I are concerned in our lifetimes there is always going to be a "China". It just may not be in China....
Vietnam is also on much friendlier terms with the US than either country is with China, so it could be a more stable partnership politically
@@spindash64 I think you are correct. It's pretty ironic where on good terms with them considering our history.
Diz gets a Big SALUTE my friends.
A carbon Z icon would be amazing
Horror-izon out of business would not only be the best thing in rc, but would lowER rc prices where they should be again!
I would love to see a future with no more E-Flite Timbers and more Fun Cubs. lol
0:30 bets?
I want to know what happens to rc when humanity lives in space in 1000 years
They would have invented anti gravity models
RC space ships of course.
He estado unos 45 años en el hobby. construyendo escala y mis propios modelos. (más livianos, más rápidos,más lentos,más original . Si uno de cada 20 Construye sus propios diseños, quedarán pocas ideas. Sólo que no se ven todos. Veo en el futuro, servos con "reciver" integrado y recargables. No extra batery.
Do not comply with the remote ID crap…Fly your RCs with common sense…