I'll give you an answer then they won't be able to sell different tools to different stores and sku pad with very small differences..... If you are a Home Depot guy then you love the atomic line and think all other Dewalts are no good and if you are a Lowes guy then xr is the best....
I understood from a previous video posting that the Atomic was the home handyman version, and the XR is the tradesman version. I have the XR and it has the same performance as my Bosch.
This is the first tool I got from the atomic line. I got it thinking it would be smaller and I can still use the same batteries. Now they make a12v xtreme version. But you need the battery too
Hammer and Home, I think you got it right. The differences seem minor and if that is the case then I wonder why DeWalt would even come out with the Atomic version. I have to Max XR version and it works fine for me and I see no reason at all to buy the Atomic version. Thank you for posting this video.
My limited understanding is the main difference is that the Atomic has a variable speed trigger and the XR has a three speed selector switch, IE not variable speed. I'm looking to upgrade from a Ryobi multi-tool as I don't like it's quick change mechanism. So far that's what I've gleamed from the specs...
Writing this in 2024. Bottom line, according to the specs posted on HD's site, I can't really see a difference between the Atomic, the current XR and the prior XR OMT models, other than a relatively minor difference in OPM. [Edit: there is one clear difference: the Atomic doesn't have the threaded hole to attach a belt clip, although I be there's a recess to hold an M3 nut inside, so if you drilled the space where the hole should be...] If the specs posted by DeWalt and HD are correct, I think that if I were in the market for a DeWalt OMT I'd buy on price. Atomic is sold only by HD. Minor gripe: DeWalt is really not at all transparent about product differences...and I don't think I really understand the actual, real-life purpose for the Atomic line, unless it was some sort of deal with HD to give HD an additional product line that wasn't sold at Lowe's. On cutting speed, compare OPM and degrees below (spoiler: only the OPM is different between Atomic and R, and it's a small difference, so cutting speed should be very close). I initially thought that one was VS and one was 3-speed fixed, but if you read the specs rather than just the product page headlines it seems that all three have switched three-speed motors with variable speed triggers. I have to say that my level of confidence that DeWalt and HD have got all the spec info correctly sorted. DCS354 is Atomic; DCS355 and DCS356 are XR Atomic OPM = 18K; XR OPM = 20K (yawn) Degrees/arc: all are 1.6 degrees Brushless: all are brushless Physical size: all are 11.2" long Cost (bare tool, August 2024): DCS356 XR is $160; DCS354 Atonic is $150; DCS355 is disco'd, replaced by DCS356 ("free" battery promos, kit promos and random sale pricing will affect price comparisons). [August 2024: Atomic promo with 5ah battery brings the DCB354 down to under $55 if you return the battery]
You know what...the difference is so minor. If even noticable. I know people say the XR is tougher and for contractors and the atomic is for "homeowner" but idk...prove it. There was a special at Canadian Tire and the Atomic was 60$ cheaper than XR. Of course I went with the cheaper one.
Nah, that's bullshit for this tool. It's more obvious on their other tools and the price usually reflects it. DeWalt just had an oopsie here. I bet it doesn't repeat as the move forward with it.
I have the xr model, cant recall what i paid for it, but what i dont understand is, right now January 2024, at home depot, the xr model is going for $129.99, and the atomic is $199.89. Go figure......oh, canadien dollars.
I have the xr I bought back in 2014. Just used it the other day to trim a door that shifted due to foundation settling. Based on this video if I ever had to replace my 7 year old multi tool, price would be the driving factor in its replacement. They seem to perform the same so price would be it for me. Mahalo for sharing
People tend to run to get new tools even though they have perfectly functional tools... It's like an addiction... At the end you have a bunch of the same tools, some of which you barely use... Thanks for the comparison.
That would be me. If I think I hear something funny from the tool or I think it didn’t cut that piece like the last one, I am on Amazon. I look at it as a legitimate opportunity to increase the tool count in the garage.
Home Depot has the atomic w/ 2ah battery and charger for $99 right now Lows has the XR w/ 2ah battery and charger for $99 Having trouble deciding… 3 speeds or smother atomic. What would be the purpose of the 3 speeds, better for different materials? Only the atomic has a variable trigger?
I just got another 20v max never had the xr version but I love mine it cuts shit like butter best multi tool I’ve ever owned and it’s beautiful I also think they have the best quick lever for the blade it’s all around an amazing tool and I highly recommend just getting the 20v max not the xr your just wasting your money
"XR" for professionals vs. "atomic" for homeowners.... That's the general marketing line; however for these 2 tools, the motors and other internals are identical. Even the difference in OPM is meaningless. DeWalt runs into these situations when a new version of their 'entry level' model is upgraded to perform the same as an older version of their 'professional level' models. It would make no business sense to develop and design different internals for an entirely different oscillating tool, when they have an existing design and aparatus for their existing one. This would have made sense in the past, but nowadays for tools at this price range, there is no cost benefit to justify creating 2 different tools. All they need to do is mould a different plastic housing. Similar situation came up when they introduced their compound mitre saws (dws779 vs dws780) -- one was marketed as a professional workhorse while the other was perceived as a lesser version overall. In reality, for their latest versions, the insides were identical, and only difference was a shadow light for the dws780, despite a difference in price of $200+
DEWALT 20V MAX is the next line after 18V, introducing lithium-ion batteries. Standard size Brushed motor DEWALT 20V XR improved on the 20V MAX line by introducing brushless motors and high-capacity lithium-ion batteries. Enhanced components Compact Brushless motors DEWALT 20V ATOMIC are designed to be compact and powerful for a wide range of applications. More compact size Light-weight Optimized for tight spaces, overhead work, and longer periods of use Brushless motor
The XR is made for professional contractors. The atomic is made for homeowners. The XR is built tougher, has heavy duty gears. Same goes for their drills
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Why don't these tool makers make it more obvious the differences? Last thing you wanna be doing when you're in the middle of a job is research.
Good point. Wish I had the answers
I'll give you an answer then they won't be able to sell different tools to different stores and sku pad with very small differences..... If you are a Home Depot guy then you love the atomic line and think all other Dewalts are no good and if you are a Lowes guy then xr is the best....
I understood from a previous video posting that the Atomic was the home handyman version, and the XR is the tradesman version. I have the XR and it has the same performance as my Bosch.
That’s my feeling to, however I have heard that the reason for the lower opms is to keep it from overheating. I think it cuts the same as the xr
Bud, that's a tough comparison. Need to do some metal bolt cutting, and plunge cuts on same quality wood with no knots. Thanks for a nice video!
This is the first tool I got from the atomic line. I got it thinking it would be smaller and I can still use the same batteries. Now they make a12v xtreme version. But you need the battery too
@@OrcForge yeah I have the 12v as well. I must say that I think it cuts better than the 20v.
Hammer and Home, I think you got it right. The differences seem minor and if that is the case then I wonder why DeWalt would even come out with the Atomic version. I have to Max XR version and it works fine for me and I see no reason at all to buy the Atomic version. Thank you for posting this video.
The xr kit with battery and charger is on sale on amazon for $99 cant beat that. I got my atomic kit for $99 also a few months back.
I pre ordered the xr when it came out. Still have the same one and use it just about every day.
I don’t ever seem to use mine much. What do you use yours on?
How's the vibration on it?
@@souljah9e not bad
My limited understanding is the main difference is that the Atomic has a variable speed trigger and the XR has a three speed selector switch, IE not variable speed. I'm looking to upgrade from a Ryobi multi-tool as I don't like it's quick change mechanism. So far that's what I've gleamed from the specs...
I just bought the XR and it has Variable speed trigger and 3 speed selector.
Yep I have an XR, variable speed trigger and also has 3 speed switch control
Sometimes I see an offer including a high amp battery with it. Those are very good deals, because sole price of those batteries is high!
I love my XR. Use it daily.
Nice video,
I would think that the the one with less oscillations per minute has more torque.
Similar to RC car setups.
Doe your blade rotate when you push on it? Mine rotated 90 degrees. So is mine deflective or is this usual?
Which is recommended between the DSC354 and DSC356? Which is newer?
I can’t find that 3 speed atomic you are talking about, anywhere. Did you make a mistake or did you ever locate it, even online?
Writing this in 2024. Bottom line, according to the specs posted on HD's site, I can't really see a difference between the Atomic, the current XR and the prior XR OMT models, other than a relatively minor difference in OPM. [Edit: there is one clear difference: the Atomic doesn't have the threaded hole to attach a belt clip, although I be there's a recess to hold an M3 nut inside, so if you drilled the space where the hole should be...] If the specs posted by DeWalt and HD are correct, I think that if I were in the market for a DeWalt OMT I'd buy on price. Atomic is sold only by HD. Minor gripe: DeWalt is really not at all transparent about product differences...and I don't think I really understand the actual, real-life purpose for the Atomic line, unless it was some sort of deal with HD to give HD an additional product line that wasn't sold at Lowe's.
On cutting speed, compare OPM and degrees below (spoiler: only the OPM is different between Atomic and R, and it's a small difference, so cutting speed should be very close). I initially thought that one was VS and one was 3-speed fixed, but if you read the specs rather than just the product page headlines it seems that all three have switched three-speed motors with variable speed triggers. I have to say that my level of confidence that DeWalt and HD have got all the spec info correctly sorted.
DCS354 is Atomic; DCS355 and DCS356 are XR
Atomic OPM = 18K; XR OPM = 20K (yawn)
Degrees/arc: all are 1.6 degrees
Brushless: all are brushless
Physical size: all are 11.2" long
Cost (bare tool, August 2024): DCS356 XR is $160; DCS354 Atonic is $150; DCS355 is disco'd, replaced by DCS356
("free" battery promos, kit promos and random sale pricing will affect price comparisons). [August 2024: Atomic promo with 5ah battery brings the DCB354 down to under $55 if you return the battery]
The oscillation angle is actually 3.2 degrees, not 1.6. It goes 1.6 in EACH direction from centre, for a TOTAL of 3.2 degrees.
You know what...the difference is so minor. If even noticable. I know people say the XR is tougher and for contractors and the atomic is for "homeowner" but idk...prove it.
There was a special at Canadian Tire and the Atomic was 60$ cheaper than XR. Of course I went with the cheaper one.
Nah, that's bullshit for this tool. It's more obvious on their other tools and the price usually reflects it. DeWalt just had an oopsie here. I bet it doesn't repeat as the move forward with it.
I have the xr model, cant recall what i paid for it, but what i dont understand is, right now January 2024, at home depot, the xr model is going for $129.99, and the atomic is $199.89. Go figure......oh, canadien dollars.
I have the xr I bought back in 2014. Just used it the other day to trim a door that shifted due to foundation settling. Based on this video if I ever had to replace my 7 year old multi tool, price would be the driving factor in its replacement. They seem to perform the same so price would be it for me. Mahalo for sharing
Thanks Brad, can't tell much of a difference myself 😎🛠️😎🛠️😎
People tend to run to get new tools even though they have perfectly functional tools... It's like an addiction... At the end you have a bunch of the same tools, some of which you barely use... Thanks for the comparison.
That would be me. If I think I hear something funny from the tool or I think it didn’t cut that piece like the last one, I am on Amazon. I look at it as a legitimate opportunity to increase the tool count in the garage.
Home Depot has the atomic w/ 2ah battery and charger for $99 right now
Lows has the XR w/ 2ah battery and charger for $99
Having trouble deciding… 3 speeds or smother atomic. What would be the purpose of the 3 speeds, better for different materials? Only the atomic has a variable trigger?
The XR has variable speed within each speed.
I just got another 20v max never had the xr version but I love mine it cuts shit like butter best multi tool I’ve ever owned and it’s beautiful I also think they have the best quick lever for the blade it’s all around an amazing tool and I highly recommend just getting the 20v max not the xr your just wasting your money
"XR" for professionals vs. "atomic" for homeowners.... That's the general marketing line; however for these 2 tools, the motors and other internals are identical. Even the difference in OPM is meaningless. DeWalt runs into these situations when a new version of their 'entry level' model is upgraded to perform the same as an older version of their 'professional level' models. It would make no business sense to develop and design different internals for an entirely different oscillating tool, when they have an existing design and aparatus for their existing one. This would have made sense in the past, but nowadays for tools at this price range, there is no cost benefit to justify creating 2 different tools. All they need to do is mould a different plastic housing.
Similar situation came up when they introduced their compound mitre saws (dws779 vs dws780) -- one was marketed as a professional workhorse while the other was perceived as a lesser version overall. In reality, for their latest versions, the insides were identical, and only difference was a shadow light for the dws780, despite a difference in price of $200+
How do you know the internals are exactly the same? Did you take them apart to compare?
The XR is brushless vs brushed for the Atomic
Doesn’t the XR have 3 speeds while the Atomic only has one?
there are two versions of the XR, the one with 3 modes of speed and the one i'm showing in this video with no modes on it,
DEWALT 20V MAX is the next line after 18V, introducing lithium-ion batteries.
Standard size
Brushed motor
DEWALT 20V XR improved on the 20V MAX line by introducing brushless motors and high-capacity lithium-ion batteries.
Enhanced components
Compact
Brushless motors
DEWALT 20V ATOMIC are designed to be compact and powerful for a wide range of applications.
More compact size
Light-weight
Optimized for tight spaces, overhead work, and longer periods of use
Brushless motor
All true😊 but I sure can’t tell any difference between the two multis
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Atomic extreme XR ultra max pro!
simple right to the point awesome!
Happy you enjoyed it. 👍
Isnt this a same video from a while ago? 👍😎😎
Eagle eyes! We're doing some rapid-fire edits during the holiday season
Those blade releases are aluminum
I think they are plastic
If you ever see someone on jobsite using a power tool in both hands, give him a raise.
The XR is made for professional contractors. The atomic is made for homeowners. The XR is built tougher, has heavy duty gears. Same goes for their drills
Not in this case, crack it open; they're basically the same. The multi-tool in this regard is a bit of anomaly compared to the rest of their tools.
Someone had the coolaid 😂
I will politely disagree with you.
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