Just got mine after waiting 3 months for it, in 42 years of riding pretty much everyday & having owned or ridden just about everything I can say this bike is so much fun I haven't had a bike that makes me smile like this one. As for people who say about the looks well I say 'I don't look at it I ride it' the quick shifter is brilliant the handling for me is spot on, totally fantastic bike for the money.
@@KapitanPisoar1 But the new hornet's power to weight ratio and the price... i think this would be a succeful change in Honda's lineup. Sad to see in-line 4 disappearing though
I love everything about it, except I am not 100% behind it's looks. I sat on it at the NEC Bike Show and I am not quite behind the styling. Everything else seems amazing though (I still want a CB650R but may change my mind after test riding the Hornet and seeing it again 😅)
I love how everyone thinks the bike looks boring, while I just want a bike that works, is fun, and doesn't look like a ninja cyclops hybrid. This definitely fits the bill.
imo the Trident is the best looking in the category, this bike is the 2nd best looking. They blended the shapes together nicely, and there are some smart and subtle color accents on this Honda. It looks modern, but mature, and doesn't look like a bike styled for teenagers like the Yamahas. Everybody hated the headlight on the Harley Pan America. Now everybody loves it. Go figure
@@dirkdiggler5164 Nah they deliberately did that to appeal to "beginner riders". Well I am a beginner rider, and I don't want a bike that thinks I'm an idiot, I want direct throttle response.
@@Mike-uk2oq Possibly. But I've heard of very many new motorcycles that reviewers say have "fueling" issues. Even on this vid, Bob said this Honda's throttle is "choppy". I don't seem to remember reading any reviews of 1980s or 1990s motorcycles where fueling or throttle was ever a problem.
I'm 35, just got my full license and currently riding a CB300R, which I plan to keep for a couple of years to get some more experience. Can't wait for this to hit the second-hand market, I reckon it's going to be a very good option when I'm ready to move to something bigger 😁
Sat on this at the NEC, it has a decent quality feel and was comfortable. It felt considerably smaller than my Z900. One of my gripes with the z is it's heavy to move around my barn. I think it's a great option especially given the price. Looking forward to your Transalp review.
If the z900 had a lower tail section I would already own one.. I don’t understand why the tail is a) part of the frame and not bolted on. B) such a ridiculous angle...
by the looks of the engine side on, its looks seem derived from a bored out and slightly stroked CBR 600 block, so really its a super hornet ala Roadrash-escue 6/75 (verses RR's 7/11 (GSX-R 750/1100) - and since the old/original Hornet itself wasn't big.. BUT being a Twin, essentially half a Blackbird engine if it were to have been engine designed by HRC, ...but more likely, engineeringly, just half an oversised VFR merged with NVT/XRV in the lines of the modern small to mid size parallel twin, hopefully utilising aspects of Honda's higher performing CBR's (inc' CBR 600, 900, 954, 1000, & CB500, CBR-F) - yeah sorry that's a broad spread of influences to be distilled within a design.. but ...Honda/HRC/Mugen.
I didn’t get to ride the cb750 but got to sit on and push it around a bit but the weight is all at the top so confirmed my choice of z650rs being better for my needs
I would love to see a comparaison between the new Honda Hornet 750 and the new Suzuki GSX-8S. For now, I just have to wait to see if it would be available in Canada in 2023.😁
the r&d of honda became lazy ....just one 2cylinder engine and they try to make us bite giving money to marketing and media...if u know what i mean,,,,shame on honda
The Hornet with CB650R headlight, that would be nice. But I guess this one lights up better. The CB650R's (!) lack of cornering light was awful! (Yes, I used to have one, so I know) Thank you mr Bob!
Saw this bike at the NEC show this week. It looks good overall, I’d say the front Hornet head light looks a bit naff and lets down the bikes otherwise good looks. But apart from that it’s a strong offering from Honda and an amazing price. The yellow one looks really good in person, I wonder if it’s also because the chassis is blacked out and looks better that way, (I don’t like the design or particular shade of cheap nail polish red chassis). It must be noted that the quick shifter doesn’t come as standard, but there is a healthy number of accessories for this bike. In places it shows that it was built to a bit of a budget compared to, say, the new. Suzuki GSX 8S. I can’t wait for you to do a side by side comparison of those two…the proof is ultimately in the pudding.
Part of me thinks the reason it’s basically a Cb500f is to eliminate some of the variables that can go wrong with a new motorcycle... sort of keep the fail points to a minimum... and obviously the 8s is 9600 usd..... not good.
Very eager to ride one. Hoping the US price point is similar now that the GBP and USD are hovering near the same value. Still love the MT-07 but I think Honda is offering significantly more for the money with the Hornet. Plus I like yellow.
I been waiting for this to come out and price wise I a still, power is enough for experience riders and for med riders! All way an amazing video and specs for you and looking forward to own one 🎉
Looks great in yellow -- best color choice of the year. Those kinds of seats tho--- kind of make you sit in almost 1 place all the time. You sure can't slide back on the seat very far. Changing your seating position by a wide latitude comes in very handy on a motorcycle, and these bikes limit that!
This bike will be a major success and i think is the biggest candidate to replace both of my 2005 sv650 and scooter sh300. Its the do it all naked bike with very good power, low on fuel and as easy to ride as any honda.
I think this will make a starting lineup for cbr750 and cbx750, its powerful enough to compete in the midrange since the 500 lineup is too heavy to enter 300s, and not powerful enough to make in 600s
As usual, great review Bob, love your voice and explanation! Never seen a bike with 90hp and 160 tire in the back, looks good overall, i am sure it's pretty quick and i do agree sounds awesome for a twin and stock exhaust! I am keeping my 790 duke, i absolutely love it and have zero issues with it! Can't wait for you to review the new Gsx-s8! Regards from Vancouver.
Nice one Bob. Thank you. I agree with all of your points and can’t wait to ride one. Honda are smart. I believe they have made this one dull to look at to cheap it cheap for people to fall in love with the engine whilst they maximise returns on it and roll it out in different carnations as you briefly touched on. That dash is awesome and when you’re riding a bike you’re not exactly looking at it
This would make an outstanding middleweight sport tourer with just a couple of small changes! Interested to see what the fuel mileage will be, as well.
I've had one in black for a year now and I'm more than happy with it! I've been roaming (unsettle) the Alpine passes for 36 years and the new Hornet make the most fun I've had so far. There's always room for improvement, but at what price?! Preis Leistung unschlagbar- Fakt 🤘
OMG, I don't like having so many choices for settings. You first have to think long and hard about what you need and then you change everything again. I love my SV 650 where I don't need to adjust. just put the key in and start. Complete!
Just got my Hornet and all Bob says it is. One criticism if the bike is weather and road protection. I don't mean for the rider but the bike! The front mudguard is a joke, it throws dirt and water all up the front, to the extent the bottom triple clamp get dirty. The rear is even worse. No protection at if you take passenger in the rain or even slightly wet roads, the back of them will be wet and dirty. So fender extender and hugger are needed (got mine on order now) Great review and totally agree with it all
Thanks FW! Glad you're enjoying the bike and good to hear some winter riding feedback. We've got another video coming up soon on this channel, and I also just published a vlog here: ruclips.net/video/z_iAYgls-9w/видео.html
i dont think so cb would have weaker lowend he can be misleading be fact cb have more top end other words diffrenc between lowend vs topend can be biger in cb but lowend maybe not wors than mt we must wait for true test or comparision with dyno and roll on last gear race etc 😁👌🏻 beside it can have difffrent gearing so depend how you look at this can givve diffrent verdict gear vs gear or rpm vs rpm at the same velocity give diffrent results if gearing is diffrent 👍🏻 feg if on last gear mt at 100 km/h spin 5 k rpm and cb 4 k rpm (4 k rpm in cb would not have place on 99% thats just egzample 👌🏻) than even if engine at the same rpm in cb generate more power =better lowend at the same rpm than still mt can win such initial roll from 100 up to some specified velocity cos it use completely diffrent engine rpm where it have more power 😁👌🏻 i think cb would have not worse lowend than mt in terms rpm to power level feg 2 vs 2 k rpm 3 vs 3 4 vs 4 5 vs 5 k rpm 👌🏻 but will see when true test came out like motorradmwoth all telemetry turn on and dyno 😎ok 6 is actually overgear cos 100 is at 4 k rpm now im found some test 👌🏻
I mean it's a good bike well priced not everyone is a supermodel just like that not every bike is meant to a trend setter would love to see a comparison between this and the new Suzuki.
I think this would make a great sport touring bike. Hard bags always does better than soft luggage. The bit of tank cowling looks unnecessary and a bit goofy.
Listening to online reviewers and RUclipsrs, one would think that motorcycles that don't come with ride modes, quick shifters and adjustable everything are somehow lesser bikes, but speaking with friends who ride, most don't care for all the features that are being added to motorcycles (nor use them if they have them) and would happily lose most of them for a lower price. The Suzuki SV650 is not popular despite its age and lack of tech, it's popular BECAUSE of these things. It's the accessible price and the lack of overbearing, over complicated tech, that motivates many to get it, and while the Hornet is decently priced in comparison to most of Honda's other (arguably overpriced) bikes, the new bikes coming out this spring in the naked 700cc category might suffer in sales from their significant cost increases. (And yes, I am aware that things cost money and stuff is not free) ;)
Such a relief that Honda didn't go with the super moto stance that you advocate in your vlog. I found the seating position totally natural and comfortable. It's like a comparison between the MT 09 and XSR 900. The latter being a far more comfortable ride either pootling around or going very fast.
Throwing it out there, I've just been to look at a few options for a new bike, all stunning in their own right. Im after something lighter than my trumph sprint ST, but still has a bit of poke. Is the hornet fun and pokey enough? What would you pick.... 1 - Yamaha XSR900 2 - Yamaha MT09 3 - Kawasaki Z900 4 - Honda Hornet 6 - Triumph Street tripple rs (top end of budget)
I've only got 3 gripes with this bike really. 1. no rear mud guard, the shock gets dirty af (same issue on my cb500f) 2. 160 rea wheel, could have been a 180 looks way nicer 3. the midpipe is hideous (but debateable, havent seen in irl) And I'd love a cbr of this one.
OH! 4. There is no full black version, sure the red frame and forks are nice, but it's abit too much imo. If there is no cbr coming and the 500's don't get a 270° crank I'd upgrade to this from my 500.
1. You can add a mud guard if you wish, but evidently the shock isn't going to suffer. 2. Do you buy a bike to show off or to ride it? if 160 rides better why on EARTH would you want a 180 lmao 3. Guess aftermaket will have to cover you there.
Could still probably fit a 180 on the wheel anyway. I know some have fitted a 180 on a nc750 with no issues. And a rear hugger is what you're thinking of. And don't most bikes come with an awful stock exhaust?
Great bike for the money, and in many ways I’m sure it’s a smart buy. And still, I find myself drawn more to a used Tuono 660 or possibly a used Trident 660.
Be careful with the 660, aprilias other bikes really don’t have problems but the 660 has been plagued with them. I always see them in for problems at the dealer I visit.
People seem really hung up on its looks, I mean it's a bit messy but hardly offensive. If the rest of it is really good I could live with slightly meh looks.
Job-caused i have a Tuono 660 & a TigerSport 660 & a 21 year-old SV650N in the garage. This Hornet has the vibe of the old 650 naked but with the modern electronics of the Tuono. It's a MT 07 killer & gently kicking the 'new' Katy 790 Duke's shins. Moneywise: it's a hit already. Lookswise- 'H!?! You can do better!!'
The new Honda and Suzuki look like fantastic choices along with the Yamaha and triumph for really fun inexpensive bikes. It’s nice to have more choices than the mt07 and sv 650. With so many manufacturers taking aim at the Yamaha mt07 it makes me think that I really did buy a great motorcycle.
Robert; would you buy one over the Trident? For me if Triumph put better suspension and a quick shifter as standard and it cost 8k for the Trident, there would be no competition.
Honestly I’d have to ride them back to back to be sure. It really is a good engine! Very entertaining. But the trident looks and handles better, and a triple is always fun. Very close run thing…
And the new Transalp 750 has been suggested by MCN as being £2750 more - when you consider the differences between the two that would make the Transalp price look ........?
Have you noticed any instability when going at high speed? I saw another video where the front of the bike was shaking when going over 200Km/h. The front suspension seems to be the weakest part of this bike. 🙄 The look could be better too.
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 In my real world, i usually go near my bike (Tracer 7) top speed on a daily basis, when going to work. And that's not even on the highway... On that video you can see it shaking a bit between 180km/h and 208km/h and it still has some more revs to go. I would like to know if it was just some windy road, bad tarmac or the pilot, or if Bob here also noticed that.
@@gsm_liv8980 Yeah that could be a solution. On my Tracer, changing the preload and rebound I've got a rock solid stability, even with lateral winds. But since the fork on this Hornet isn't adjustable, maybe the steering damper will be required 🙄
Are these modern bikes more like cars in that they just work? Or do you need tools, a garage and the know how to keep them running smooth, and starting up.
Looks a great bike. Finally Honda realised they needed a twin cylinder for this category, not a detuned 4 cylinder without enough low down go. 90 bhp should be the sweet spot and USD forks, which means Yamaha will have to up their game now. Great package.
It looks nice better than the mt07 and the new Suzuki 8s but still the cb650r looks better. The best looking is the CBR650R what a beautiful bike. And the sound of the inline4 is so great. The most negative for me about the hornet overall is the sound. It sounds really bad imo. I know its a paralell twin and not an inline4 but anyway. Maybe the sound dont come through right or?? Sounded like a scooter😉
Aren't the power/engine breaking/TC settings the exact opposite of the one's on the Africa Twin? For example Power setting 1 here is the most gentle power setting but on the AT it's the higher setting? This bike is set up the way it should be, I find my AT setup very counter intuitive.
I'm hoping for a software update to fix this? I find myself having to think about the settings each time I adjust them, but I’m slowly getting used to it, after 2 years 😂 I know, 1st world problems….🙄 Btw, love your videos, you're a great source for real and reliable info, much like Ryan Fortnine, keep up the good work!
Contrary to quite a few comments here I think the white and red in particular looks the biz. Also, like the CB500f, the overall finished look is better imho. Whenever I compare this or the CB500f to the competition, I find the other bikes a little untidy in the area behind the forks/beneath the radiator. Suzuki SV650 and Yamaha MT-07 being examples of looking a bit untidy/poorly designed. It’s almost as if the manufacturers thought it was job-done for the rest of the bike and didn’t give a hoot about the look in this area. Not so with the Hondas.
I hate the sound of tandem twins though. The old schoolers wouldn't want to downsize from 4 cylinders to 2 cylinders EVEN though they know full well it makes the bike lighter and improves the lean angle
Definitely want to see some more reviews with it and see how it gets on for the next couple months. That said, it looks like a good motorcycle for the cash.
This is a LOT of bike for the money and doesn't look too bad in the yellow or black colour schemes. If and when they come out with the adventure styled model with the same killer engine - that would work for me
Quick question: how much is this bike in UK out of the door? 7k MSRP in USA is close to 10k out of the door (ready to ride) this days! I believe that dealers are reaping us off big time
This AND the Transalp 750 really should have gotten the TFT from the Africa Twin with the CarPlay and Google Auto integration. But the stainless steel bolts on the black engine casing makes the engine look like a studded pannier bag a Harley rider would have, they look terrible.
Test ride one to find out I guess! So many armchair experts saying this new engine is dull without riding it - personally found it more entertaining than the 650
here is the problem... I am a new rider and want to start out on something slightly smaller so am looking at a cb500f/x or Duke 390, my training bike was a cb300r (everyone wanted the duke) and it got old fairly quickly even if it did the job... I think this is just a tad bit too much for newbie me... price is not though which is slightly scary?
Oh grow a pair. You don't have to ride like a madman no matter how much power you have, which by the way this one doesn't have a lot of. Considering 150cc more than it's legacy 600F Hornet, it's only got 9nm more while lacking 7hp. Learn self control and you can start off with a gsxr. The reason you should not buy the new hornet is not because it has too much power, but because it has too little, not enough cylinders and it looks like ass. We need to go back in time 20 years to get good bikes again.
Just got mine after waiting 3 months for it, in 42 years of riding pretty much everyday & having owned or ridden just about everything I can say this bike is so much fun I haven't had a bike that makes me smile like this one. As for people who say about the looks well I say 'I don't look at it I ride it' the quick shifter is brilliant the handling for me is spot on, totally fantastic bike for the money.
Would be interesting to see a live comparison between the CB650R and CB750 Hornet in the future.
650r is better in every aspect and it is the spiritual successor to the 90s CB600 Hornet….
@@KapitanPisoar1 But the new hornet's power to weight ratio and the price... i think this would be a succeful change in Honda's lineup.
Sad to see in-line 4 disappearing though
@@rhapsodyofice8184 honda will keep making which bikes sells. Best at this price point. With much better torque I believe the hornet will sell.
@@KapitanPisoar1 have you tried both?
No, you have not. Shut up.
@@zefautino Why the anger?
7:24 The best and cleanest audio clip of the engine i've seen so far after watching tons of reviews. A delight to listen. Good job!
Its one of the bikes we are quite hyped here in india... after the africa twin this is one of the honda bikes that has the enthusiasts very excited
Transalp is perfect for us brooooooo. Transalp under 10 Lakh on road🤤
If honda price hornet well like it is abroad, it is nice too.
I love everything about it, except I am not 100% behind it's looks. I sat on it at the NEC Bike Show and I am not quite behind the styling. Everything else seems amazing though (I still want a CB650R but may change my mind after test riding the Hornet and seeing it again 😅)
I like everythIng except the dash and headlight. It would be more hornet if it had one of those psyclops eyes like the mt09.
I love how everyone thinks the bike looks boring, while I just want a bike that works, is fun, and doesn't look like a ninja cyclops hybrid. This definitely fits the bill.
imo the Trident is the best looking in the category, this bike is the 2nd best looking. They blended the shapes together nicely, and there are some smart and subtle color accents on this Honda. It looks modern, but mature, and doesn't look like a bike styled for teenagers like the Yamahas. Everybody hated the headlight on the Harley Pan America. Now everybody loves it. Go figure
@@dirkdiggler5164 The Trident would be my dream bike if it didn't have the shitty slow throttle response.
@@Mike-uk2oq The emissions and noise regs have gotten to the point that many new bikes just plainly don't run properly.
@@dirkdiggler5164 Nah they deliberately did that to appeal to "beginner riders". Well I am a beginner rider, and I don't want a bike that thinks I'm an idiot, I want direct throttle response.
@@Mike-uk2oq Possibly. But I've heard of very many new motorcycles that reviewers say have "fueling" issues. Even on this vid, Bob said this Honda's throttle is "choppy". I don't seem to remember reading any reviews of 1980s or 1990s motorcycles where fueling or throttle was ever a problem.
I'm 35, just got my full license and currently riding a CB300R, which I plan to keep for a couple of years to get some more experience. Can't wait for this to hit the second-hand market, I reckon it's going to be a very good option when I'm ready to move to something bigger 😁
It will, but use riders aid. Performance is comparable with the GSXR-750R of my youth..
I also started on CB300R but want to go CB650R next
wait for hornet 1000
Sat on this at the NEC, it has a decent quality feel and was comfortable. It felt considerably smaller than my Z900. One of my gripes with the z is it's heavy to move around my barn. I think it's a great option especially given the price. Looking forward to your Transalp review.
The z900 is a lot bulkier than I thought it would be. The mt-09 is a lot more compact. Z900 seems big even for a litre bike
@@chrishart8548 isnt z900 not a liter? The sugomi is the litre one
If the z900 had a lower tail section I would already own one.. I don’t understand why the tail is a) part of the frame and not bolted on. B) such a ridiculous angle...
by the looks of the engine side on, its looks seem derived from a bored out and slightly stroked CBR 600 block, so really its a super hornet ala Roadrash-escue 6/75 (verses RR's 7/11 (GSX-R 750/1100) - and since the old/original Hornet itself wasn't big..
BUT being a Twin, essentially half a Blackbird engine if it were to have been engine designed by HRC, ...but more likely, engineeringly, just half an oversised VFR merged with NVT/XRV in the lines of the modern small to mid size parallel twin, hopefully utilising aspects of Honda's higher performing CBR's (inc' CBR 600, 900, 954, 1000, & CB500, CBR-F) - yeah sorry that's a broad spread of influences to be distilled within a design.. but ...Honda/HRC/Mugen.
I didn’t get to ride the cb750 but got to sit on and push it around a bit but the weight is all at the top so confirmed my choice of z650rs being better for my needs
Always LOVE a Motobob vlog - been looking forward to this one!!!
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Can’t believe you got your test ride video up already! Nice work.
Man, if this thing was around when I first started riding it would have made an amazing 1st bike. Something you can really grow with.
I would love to see a comparaison between the new Honda Hornet 750 and the new Suzuki GSX-8S. For now, I just have to wait to see if it would be available in Canada in 2023.😁
Haha I want more motorcycle comparisons based on price. The 8s is the same price as an MT-09...... People shop with a budget, I want to see those.
The other comparison is the GSX S750. Quick and handles well. Not much tech and looks a bit old... Cheaper where I live.
Are you kidding me? 7,000 pounds for this? That is literally a steal, Hondas coming out swinging with this one
What a ugly ugly bike
For just 500 more you can get trident or mt07. One much more better looking and one probably more fun
the r&d of honda became lazy ....just one 2cylinder engine and they try to make us bite giving money to marketing and media...if u know what i mean,,,,shame on honda
@@nomanaslamkhan5000 this is better than both of them
@@nomanaslamkhan5000 did u even read up on the specs and the components?
The Hornet with CB650R headlight, that would be nice. But I guess this one lights up better. The CB650R's (!) lack of cornering light was awful! (Yes, I used to have one, so I know)
Thank you mr Bob!
Saw this bike at the NEC show this week. It looks good overall, I’d say the front Hornet head light looks a bit naff and lets down the bikes otherwise good looks. But apart from that it’s a strong offering from Honda and an amazing price. The yellow one looks really good in person, I wonder if it’s also because the chassis is blacked out and looks better that way, (I don’t like the design or particular shade of cheap nail polish red chassis). It must be noted that the quick shifter doesn’t come as standard, but there is a healthy number of accessories for this bike. In places it shows that it was built to a bit of a budget compared to, say, the new. Suzuki GSX 8S. I can’t wait for you to do a side by side comparison of those two…the proof is ultimately in the pudding.
Couldn’t agree more regarding the headlight. I can’t live with it , hopefully they’ll address the issue.
Yep. This thing's a part-bin bike already. Idk why Honda doesn't recycle that CB650R headlight which looks way better than this CB500F headlight
Part of me thinks the reason it’s basically a Cb500f is to eliminate some of the variables that can go wrong with a new motorcycle... sort of keep the fail points to a minimum... and obviously the 8s is 9600 usd..... not good.
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 Made in Japan vs Thailand. Hard to make it cheap for Suzuki. Honda is cheating by using much cheaper labor.
@@cheetah694 You do know the Hornet is made in Japan, right?
Very eager to ride one. Hoping the US price point is similar now that the GBP and USD are hovering near the same value. Still love the MT-07 but I think Honda is offering significantly more for the money with the Hornet. Plus I like yellow.
For pricing, mine cost me 10600 euros with the sports package.. we're truely screwed as allways in the netherlands.
Is it coming to the US? I don’t see it on Honda websites. Would love to try one.
@@Allie_Rose heared nothing about the US specifically unfortunatly
@@Allie_Rose It will be announced later for US as always.
I been waiting for this to come out and price wise I a still, power is enough for experience riders and for med riders! All way an amazing video and specs for you and looking forward to own one 🎉
Looks great in yellow -- best color choice of the year. Those kinds of seats tho--- kind of make you sit in almost 1 place all the time. You sure can't slide back on the seat very far. Changing your seating position by a wide latitude comes in very handy on a motorcycle, and these bikes limit that!
Looking forward to it coming out in the UK. Up to now it is my preferred choice over the MT so bring it on.
This bike will be a major success and i think is the biggest candidate to replace both of my 2005 sv650 and scooter sh300. Its the do it all naked bike with very good power, low on fuel and as easy to ride as any honda.
I think this will make a starting lineup for cbr750 and cbx750, its powerful enough to compete in the midrange since the 500 lineup is too heavy to enter 300s, and not powerful enough to make in 600s
Bring on that retro style! Especially if it has styling queues that go back to the original Honda 750/4
As usual, great review Bob, love your voice and explanation! Never seen a bike with 90hp and 160 tire in the back, looks good overall, i am sure it's pretty quick and i do agree sounds awesome for a twin and stock exhaust! I am keeping my 790 duke, i absolutely love it and have zero issues with it! Can't wait for you to review the new Gsx-s8! Regards from Vancouver.
Thanks for the support Boris! Looking forward to riding the GSX too!
Speed twin 1200 has 100hp and a 160. Lovely bike.
I will wait for a few road test reports,but it's definitely on my list for next year.
Specs look great. But I'll wait for a facelift 'cause the styling just isn't doing it for me. Should've made it look more like the CB650R
Great review! This looks like a great mid sized bike to scoot around on for sure. Always love the Hondas.
Nice one Bob. Thank you. I agree with all of your points and can’t wait to ride one. Honda are smart. I believe they have made this one dull to look at to cheap it cheap for people to fall in love with the engine whilst they maximise returns on it and roll it out in different carnations as you briefly touched on. That dash is awesome and when you’re riding a bike you’re not exactly looking at it
Yeah make sure there aren’t any problems with the engine in a known chassis and then build a GT, CBR and CL with this engine.
Needed to be more aggressive looking, it really looks like a 1st generation CB500F.
Should have styled the front light similar to the MV Brutale
Excited to see how this motor suits the new Transalp!
This would make an outstanding middleweight sport tourer with just a couple of small changes! Interested to see what the fuel mileage will be, as well.
Fuel mileage is claimed at about 25km/l
Those silver screws on a black engine is not working for me.. 🤔
Sharpie
Las Vegas Christmas lights!
I remember when 750cc was a big engine.
What's wrong with two classic clocks with a few idiot lights?
Not only was 750 big , 90 hp was a serious number.... but you didn’t want to get your bell-bottom jeans stuck in the chain.
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I always wore 501's and Army surplus combat boots with my Bell Star,, lol
I've had one in black for a year now and I'm more than happy with it! I've been roaming (unsettle) the Alpine passes for 36 years and the new Hornet make the most fun I've had so far. There's always room for improvement, but at what price?! Preis Leistung unschlagbar- Fakt 🤘
Great review! I'd like to see Honda make a GT variant, with a windshield/hand guards and a much larger fuel tank for increased range.
And, move the foot pegs for more long-distance room. Yeah, all over that!
It’s called Transalp 😉
Great minds think alike😅
Should've compared it to the Tuono 660 as well, fits well in the category
This will be another best seller for Honda. They know what they are doing and at this price? Unbelievable value.
Love the styling, so much so I’ve already ordered mine.
did you have any problem?
OMG, I don't like having so many choices for settings. You first have to think long and hard about what you need and then you change everything again. I love my SV 650 where I don't need to adjust. just put the key in and start. Complete!
Agree. That’s why I went with a 2023 gsx s1000. Don’t want gimmicks and useless tech. Just a solid reliable motor and something fun to ride.
Can't wait till you review the transalp.
Me either! Definitely think the engine will go well in that style of bike
Just got my Hornet and all Bob says it is. One criticism if the bike is weather and road protection. I don't mean for the rider but the bike!
The front mudguard is a joke, it throws dirt and water all up the front, to the extent the bottom triple clamp get dirty. The rear is even worse. No protection at if you take passenger in the rain or even slightly wet roads, the back of them will be wet and dirty.
So fender extender and hugger are needed (got mine on order now)
Great review and totally agree with it all
Thanks FW! Glad you're enjoying the bike and good to hear some winter riding feedback. We've got another video coming up soon on this channel, and I also just published a vlog here: ruclips.net/video/z_iAYgls-9w/видео.html
Already watch it 🙂 and left the same comment. Thanks for the great vids, you are the best, well you and Neavsey lol
Installing a wind sheild and possibly an aftermarket engine plate may add a bit more style 🤩
I the 750 hornet only had 80hp it would probably match the mt-07 for low end grunt. But you make the choice high end hp or low end grunt.
i dont think so cb would have weaker lowend he can be misleading be fact cb have more top end other words diffrenc between lowend vs topend can be biger in cb but lowend maybe not wors than mt we must wait for true test or comparision with dyno and roll on last gear race etc 😁👌🏻 beside it can have difffrent gearing so depend how you look at this can givve diffrent verdict gear vs gear or rpm vs rpm at the same velocity give diffrent results if gearing is diffrent 👍🏻 feg if on last gear mt at 100 km/h spin 5 k rpm and cb 4 k rpm (4 k rpm in cb would not have place on 99% thats just egzample 👌🏻) than even if engine at the same rpm in cb generate more power =better lowend at the same rpm than still mt can win such initial roll from 100 up to some specified velocity cos it use completely diffrent engine rpm where it have more power 😁👌🏻 i think cb would have not worse lowend than mt in terms rpm to power level feg 2 vs 2 k rpm 3 vs 3 4 vs 4 5 vs 5 k rpm 👌🏻 but will see when true test came out like motorradmwoth all telemetry turn on and dyno 😎ok 6 is actually overgear cos 100 is at 4 k rpm now im found some test 👌🏻
I mean it's a good bike well priced not everyone is a supermodel just like that not every bike is meant to a trend setter would love to see a comparison between this and the new Suzuki.
I sure hope they bring this to Malaysia. Right up my alley
I think this would make a great sport touring bike. Hard bags always does better than soft luggage. The bit of tank cowling looks unnecessary and a bit goofy.
Listening to online reviewers and RUclipsrs, one would think that motorcycles that don't come with ride modes, quick shifters and adjustable everything are somehow lesser bikes, but speaking with friends who ride, most don't care for all the features that are being added to motorcycles (nor use them if they have them) and would happily lose most of them for a lower price.
The Suzuki SV650 is not popular despite its age and lack of tech, it's popular BECAUSE of these things. It's the accessible price and the lack of overbearing, over complicated tech, that motivates many to get it, and while the Hornet is decently priced in comparison to most of Honda's other (arguably overpriced) bikes, the new bikes coming out this spring in the naked 700cc category might suffer in sales from their significant cost increases.
(And yes, I am aware that things cost money and stuff is not free) ;)
The gsxs750, z900
Such a relief that Honda didn't go with the super moto stance that you advocate in your vlog. I found the seating position totally natural and comfortable. It's like a comparison between the MT 09 and XSR 900. The latter being a far more comfortable ride either pootling around or going very fast.
Honestly, the CB650R and CB1000R are the real Hornets for me. This looks more like a NC700X.
Throwing it out there, I've just been to look at a few options for a new bike, all stunning in their own right. Im after something lighter than my trumph sprint ST, but still has a bit of poke. Is the hornet fun and pokey enough? What would you pick....
1 - Yamaha XSR900
2 - Yamaha MT09
3 - Kawasaki Z900
4 - Honda Hornet
6 - Triumph Street tripple rs (top end of budget)
I've only got 3 gripes with this bike really.
1. no rear mud guard, the shock gets dirty af (same issue on my cb500f)
2. 160 rea wheel, could have been a 180 looks way nicer
3. the midpipe is hideous (but debateable, havent seen in irl)
And I'd love a cbr of this one.
OH!
4. There is no full black version, sure the red frame and forks are nice, but it's abit too much imo.
If there is no cbr coming and the 500's don't get a 270° crank I'd upgrade to this from my 500.
Aftermarket should have it covered hopefully
1. You can add a mud guard if you wish, but evidently the shock isn't going to suffer.
2. Do you buy a bike to show off or to ride it? if 160 rides better why on EARTH would you want a 180 lmao
3. Guess aftermaket will have to cover you there.
Could still probably fit a 180 on the wheel anyway. I know some have fitted a 180 on a nc750 with no issues. And a rear hugger is what you're thinking of. And don't most bikes come with an awful stock exhaust?
@@Surpriseify I ride a 500 with a 160, there is a reason I want a 180. And yes it's only for looks here
Great bike for the money, and in many ways I’m sure it’s a smart buy. And still, I find myself drawn more to a used Tuono 660 or possibly a used Trident 660.
It's seems you like to make friends with the towing companies.
And pay more for something that will leave you stranded.
Reliability is obviously important and I agree that Honda’s are generally bulletproof. I’ll definitely test ride a Hornet next year.
Be careful with the 660, aprilias other bikes really don’t have problems but the 660 has been plagued with them. I always see them in for problems at the dealer I visit.
Now put a decent passenger seat on the damn bike, Honda !
People seem really hung up on its looks, I mean it's a bit messy but hardly offensive. If the rest of it is really good I could live with slightly meh looks.
The more I look at it the more I like it, But Il keep my 2006 600 Hornet for now.
I will keep my 03 900 as well!
Job-caused i have a Tuono 660 & a TigerSport 660 & a 21 year-old SV650N in the garage. This Hornet has the vibe of the old 650 naked but with the modern electronics of the Tuono. It's a MT 07 killer & gently kicking the 'new' Katy 790 Duke's shins. Moneywise: it's a hit already. Lookswise- 'H!?! You can do better!!'
The new Honda and Suzuki look like fantastic choices along with the Yamaha and triumph for really fun inexpensive bikes. It’s nice to have more choices than the mt07 and sv 650. With so many manufacturers taking aim at the Yamaha mt07 it makes me think that I really did buy a great motorcycle.
Love the 360! On camera! Cool
a modern retro cb750/gb750 version to compete with the Street Twin/T100/W800's would make me a happy boy
That's a good idea 👀
You dont need that much rider aid for a bike with 92 hp. The bike looks like the cb500f
I wonder if you could put a cb650 headlight and tac on it the only thing I can’t get behind is the hornets headlight
Great all round package, just a shame about the look of that rear 160, I know it’s superficial but I do love a fat 180!
Robert; would you buy one over the Trident? For me if Triumph put better suspension and a quick shifter as standard and it cost 8k for the Trident, there would be no competition.
Honestly I’d have to ride them back to back to be sure. It really is a good engine! Very entertaining. But the trident looks and handles better, and a triple is always fun. Very close run thing…
2011 called and wanted their headlight back
Looks like the rear subframe does not accomodate mounting a rear rack or side pannier.
What does your heart say? If you were to choose between this and MT-07 for city commuting?
And the new Transalp 750 has been suggested by MCN as being £2750 more - when you consider the differences between the two that would make the Transalp price look ........?
Have you noticed any instability when going at high speed?
I saw another video where the front of the bike was shaking when going over 200Km/h.
The front suspension seems to be the weakest part of this bike. 🙄
The look could be better too.
You realize that this bikes top speed is like 127 mph... so in the real world 200 kph is top speed with a full grown man....
Steering damper
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 In my real world, i usually go near my bike (Tracer 7) top speed on a daily basis, when going to work. And that's not even on the highway...
On that video you can see it shaking a bit between 180km/h and 208km/h and it still has some more revs to go.
I would like to know if it was just some windy road, bad tarmac or the pilot, or if Bob here also noticed that.
@@gsm_liv8980 Yeah that could be a solution.
On my Tracer, changing the preload and rebound I've got a rock solid stability, even with lateral winds. But since the fork on this Hornet isn't adjustable, maybe the steering damper will be required 🙄
Cool review, thanks. Is the suspension a little underdamped and hard on the bumps?
Are these modern bikes more like cars in that they just work?
Or do you need tools, a garage and the know how to keep them running smooth, and starting up.
Looks a great bike. Finally Honda realised they needed a twin cylinder for this category, not a detuned 4 cylinder without enough low down go. 90 bhp should be the sweet spot and USD forks, which means Yamaha will have to up their game now. Great package.
Cbr750RR is next and I'm hyped
It looks nice better than the mt07 and the new Suzuki 8s but still the cb650r looks better. The best looking is the CBR650R what a beautiful bike. And the sound of the inline4 is so great. The most negative for me about the hornet overall is the sound. It sounds really bad imo. I know its a paralell twin and not an inline4 but anyway. Maybe the sound dont come through right or?? Sounded like a scooter😉
Honda just keeps nailing it with that yellow
Thanks Bob!
Honda UK have one big problem here... they are aren't going to be able to ship enough to meet demand.
Is that a bee at 0:58? That bee must be thinking "So they call this yellow thing Hornet, then why is it not flying and buzzing?"
Aren't the power/engine breaking/TC settings the exact opposite of the one's on the Africa Twin? For example Power setting 1 here is the most gentle power setting but on the AT it's the higher setting? This bike is set up the way it should be, I find my AT setup very counter intuitive.
I believe they’ve put some effort into making it easier to use so yes I think you’re right. I always found the AT a little perplexing at first
I'm hoping for a software update to fix this? I find myself having to think about the settings each time I adjust them, but I’m slowly getting used to it, after 2 years 😂 I know, 1st world problems….🙄 Btw, love your videos, you're a great source for real and reliable info, much like Ryan Fortnine, keep up the good work!
The snappy throttle at slow speed I think is hondas recent fuel mapping. My 22 cb500x is the same. My brothers older cb500x doesn't have that snap.
Contrary to quite a few comments here I think the white and red in particular looks the biz. Also, like the CB500f, the overall finished look is better imho. Whenever I compare this or the CB500f to the competition, I find the other bikes a little untidy in the area behind the forks/beneath the radiator. Suzuki SV650 and Yamaha MT-07 being examples of looking a bit untidy/poorly designed. It’s almost as if the manufacturers thought it was job-done for the rest of the bike and didn’t give a hoot about the look in this area. Not so with the Hondas.
Would love to see Honda bring out a retro style version
A CL750 ... hell yeah
Hi Motobob, whan are you releasing a review of the new GSX-8S? Looking forward to your opinion!
I hate the sound of tandem twins though. The old schoolers wouldn't want to downsize from 4 cylinders to 2 cylinders EVEN though they know full well it makes the bike lighter and improves the lean angle
I love it shame i got a new bike not long ago and can not afford nor want to trade my bike in to get a new Hornet how ever good it is.
Definitely want to see some more reviews with it and see how it gets on for the next couple months. That said, it looks like a good motorcycle for the cash.
Not bad for the money , don't know if I like the yellow or not. Honda should bring back the inline 4 cb750 nighthawk
Won't be any 4 cylinder bikes soon
It reminds me of the CB500,but I will wait to see it for real,but I do like the Trident....
It is going to be a tough choice between Hornet & GSX 8S.
THANKS FOR YOUR REVIEW.
So far, it looks like the Suzi has more attitude
@@ElCoco1984 bells & whistles count for this 'ole returning rider.
@@ElCoco1984 Too bad the suspension on the MT07 is atrocious.
So the Honda .. cause the 8s is the same price as an MT-09....
@@ElCoco1984 They haven't even announced the price
How successful it is also depends on Honda's supply chain, last year they were a bit pants
There are no Honda’s in showrooms where I am.. and actually there are no civics either.
If you were after a CRF 300... At one time, the dealer got 5, less than 1 week later, all gone. No new batch for months.
I know this is a random question, but where is it manufactured? Honda of Japan or Honda of Thailand?
Any info if this engine will replace the rebel 500? Rebel 750
There's already rebel 1100, i don't think they'll make a 750 rebel anytime soon since this new 750 engine almost had the same power with the 1100
This is a LOT of bike for the money and doesn't look too bad in the yellow or black colour schemes. If and when they come out with the adventure styled model with the same killer engine - that would work for me
Transalp 750.
@@slakk5093 Thanks - i did have a look after and realised that they already had this bike with the Hornet 750 twin, but no price yet
Hate that headlight, no matter how well performing or reliable that bike is…
Quick question: how much is this bike in UK out of the door? 7k MSRP in USA is close to 10k out of the door (ready to ride) this days!
I believe that dealers are reaping us off big time
Did they play with the settings in that vid? Felt ok until I set it in the soft mode - after that it felt great
I am not sure this replay is for my comment/question
This AND the Transalp 750 really should have gotten the TFT from the Africa Twin with the CarPlay and Google Auto integration. But the stainless steel bolts on the black engine casing makes the engine look like a studded pannier bag a Harley rider would have, they look terrible.
Did it feel a lot faster than your sv650?
It’s definitely quicker! And the engine revs with ease. Still love the SV tho
How would you compare this with the honda cb650r. I have my heart set on the hornet but can't go passed the 4 cylinder
Test ride one to find out I guess! So many armchair experts saying this new engine is dull without riding it - personally found it more entertaining than the 650
Comparing to 650 R Neo ???what is your choice???
here is the problem... I am a new rider and want to start out on something slightly smaller so am looking at a cb500f/x or Duke 390, my training bike was a cb300r (everyone wanted the duke) and it got old fairly quickly even if it did the job... I think this is just a tad bit too much for newbie me... price is not though which is slightly scary?
Oh grow a pair. You don't have to ride like a madman no matter how much power you have, which by the way this one doesn't have a lot of. Considering 150cc more than it's legacy 600F Hornet, it's only got 9nm more while lacking 7hp. Learn self control and you can start off with a gsxr.
The reason you should not buy the new hornet is not because it has too much power, but because it has too little, not enough cylinders and it looks like ass. We need to go back in time 20 years to get good bikes again.
Where are you finding these bikes? Haven't seen any 2023 street bikes from Honda yet
Design is from 2000s. This model is step back for Honda.