Budget middleweight kicks. Honda CB750 Hornet ridden | MCN Review
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- Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2022
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This is the difference between a RUclipsr and a motorcycle journalist 👊
Indeed. This chap is paid to be there by the manufacturer, probably using footage supplied by the manufacturer and employed by the media giant Bauer Media. Find an independent RUclipsr (not one of big established names, they're just as bad) and you'll often hear a completely different story.
@@tonyparker7356 Mostly because those RUclipsrs don't have the frame of reference nor the knowledge Neevesy has built up over the last 15 years.
@@MaxxMotoDotBe often you don't need it. If you're looking at buying a new 'Hornet' and you've ridden the other current models but haven't ridden a sv650 from 2007 I don't think you're at a disadvantage.
Id rather read / watch a few owners experiences, that have actually lived with the bikes rather than just ridden them for a weekend. Interesting none of the main issues with my bike appeared in the mainstream reviews, printed or RUclips, yet are present in almost every indie ) owner review.
Ultimately if you value these that's great but I'll look elsewhere for a balanced view.
@@tonyparker7356 Well, it's pretty clear this is a first review after a short testride by an extremely experienced journalist. User reviews and long term reviews will pop up later and you can watch those then. No need to put this video down.
@@MaxxMotoDotBe let's just agree to disagree. I hopped on my bike and the strengths and weaknesses were pretty apparent in the first 30mins, again the negatives largely didn't appear in any of the mainstream reviews. As I've said they're great for understanding the spec sheet but for how 'good' they are I'd rather rely on a test ride, especially as everyone's priorities are different etc.
Seriously, Neevesey is just the finest thinking man's bike journo. His reviews are so balanced and not afraid to highlight flaws as well as give it context. For the money, this little bike does seem one hell of a proposition in a very competitive segment. I'm off to the Honda site to dig a little deeper! 😎👍
Great review! I love how you don't gloss over the bike's potential shortcomings, as many others do.
You can bet everything that you own that he does 😄
Main gripe is the styling, it just looks so bland, winter hack to me I would not open a garage and think woooo cant wait to get this beauty out and go for a play
they should have stuck closer to the concept designs
I really hope there will be some nice aftermarket headlights, I think it would completely change the overall appearance.
Exactly, not something that you would give a second glance, even trident looks smacking infront of it. Only if it was styled like cb650r
@@kankit230 biggest issue is that the Display is so far back. Universal Round headlights won't really work on this. Unless someone comes up with something to combine both
@@h00tybunter The thing I hate the most other than the headlight is the portion of subframe that's sticking out on the sides , it breaks the flow .
As usual the review was good and on point....but hugh thanks for including that exhaust sound clip....please do the same on all ur videos to give us a proper sound check from different distances and environments....
Great review. I've got a 1998 Hornet 600 which I love to death, and I was VERY sceptical of Honda reviving the Hornet as a parallel twin but it sounds like it's actually alright.
Though I won't get one myself, it's great to see Honda offering a good bike which will get people interested in the brand again.
Thanks Michael for another honest review. Way to go!
Your demeanour during the presentation says it all, I'll wait for the Suzuki test 👍
Great honest review, as always, considering the price and the performance. .
Solid review. Thanks Michael. I know its down on numbers but I'm keen to see how the new Suzuki stacks up. It looks a little more premium going off photos. But ultimately how they all ride is the most important factor.
best analysis ive heard, up to now. 👍
Ive heard people criticise MCN , in my opinion they do the best reviews and they do understand that not everyone are track aces.
Great review.
It’s so nice, to hear a honest review!
I owned it for 3 months now, and I completely agree with you.
2 worst things is
1 the on/off throttle in roundabouts. I still have a hard time getting used to that.
2 the crashy suspension, can send some nasty kicks up to your back wenn riding over something.
The “ sensitive “ steering I’m used to now and I like it. It’s easy to flick around and side to side. I think it’s a personal thing, and in my opinion not a negative.
The “planted” feeling of the bike, hmm I don’t know. Maybe it’s because it’s so steering sensitive, that you don’t get that planted feeling.
I’m a total noob and new to motorcycles, so I don’t want to argue with a veteran and a guy, who rides motorcycles for a living 😂
Again great honest review 👌🏻👌🏻
Man the biking world is becoming one big parallel twin.
Lots of twins, yes, and I like it! But they all differ. Take the Hornet and the NC750 engine, two very different characters.
You can blame the 650 ninja for starting this battle. Best to test ride then all then buy a big bore kit for the enfield.
Must be cheaper to develop for Euro6
@@MadKingJorge - Europeans should really learn to shut up and stop bossing people around with their air pollution panic.
Yeah I don't get it. They all seem to be falling over themselves to make a 270 degree p-twin, with short strokes. Meaning higher revving engines than typical v-twins, and torque further up the rpm range that most people don't be riding in the majority of the time. My 890 Adventure is the same.
Good review. I look forward to a comparison of the Honda Transalp and Triumph Tiger 660. Cheers.
Test rode one. Throttle is better than my mt09, my tracer 700, and my wife's mt07. Yes, when you first get on it, the steering feels almost too quick, but you soon realise it just changes direction really quickly ...ordered one immediately after the test ride.
Same here. 2 hr test ride & I placed the order. Roll on August. I certainly didn’t need a full day on the bike to get used to the throttle or the Hornet fast like steering, at first yes but just like any new bike a half an hour on the beast & it feels like home.
I love your precise classification and analysis, great review. You are one of the best motorcycle journalists out there👍
I actually like the looks of this more than the Tiger 660, Trident 660, and the MT-07. I'm more into fully faired sport touring bikes so I hope Honda brings out a CBR750R based on this bike. I was initially interested in the Yamaha R7 but the lack of power and aggressive seating position put me off of it. Hopefully Honda will push some innovation in the middle weight space.
Looks like crap. 07 is way better
@@Sinister_fartbox apparently you're not the only one that likes the alien-ish styling of the MT-07. I never understood why so many like it though 🤷
@@glsracer I felt that way you feel, before I started trying it irl. And it grew so much. The best thing is just how it’s acts and sound on the road.
I’ve got the black 2022
@@glsracer i have had a lot of people walking up to me and complementing it, even some old school bikers
@@Sinister_fartbox love MT looks, also suzuki's new head light design nowadays, cb or this one's not that bad too tbh. though these are easy to change with aftermarkets.
I love the styling it looks very modern
I think it was the best review I have seen of this bike. Don't fancy the naked transformerish looks, so will wait for the "XSR version of it"... I know there must be one in the works...
I'm hoping for a Tracer 700 style version!
I want a Tenere 700 version
Honda will definitely sell a ton of these bikes to their target market. Looks are subjective , pocket books are not. I quite like the looks and one can always customize it to make it more personal. The sound is great as well. Great video! Best!
The low price is the selling point
@@jimnagel5611 why are you shouting Jim?
Yep. It looks like a Honda! And there will be new colors in subsequent model years.
@@jimnagel5611 uhhh no, they just trigger a simple question. And make you look simple. Not sure why you got so defensive over a question tbh.
@@jimnagel5611 no. That would be yourself. Mate I asked a question and you’re trying to escalate it into something else. Might wanna take a look at yourself. There’s just no need for the defensiveness really. Be better next time. Peace
Probably only older riders will understand 'thrupenny bitting' :)) great description. great review.
older and british
Put it this way- my EBIKE was £7000, this bike is great value for money.
Thanks for such an interesting, insightful review, best one I've seen so far. Bet Honda does sell a she load but doesn't really excite me, bit dull. Cheers Scott
Am a huge Honda fan, cars and bikes. Have had a 600 hornet(2003) and also cb1000 (97). Loved the 4 cylinders and also the styling of the old cb’s. Not sure about the new looks but Honda has always been about value so am sure this is a great bike at the price
Great video, fantastic review. I saw this at the NEC, really not my thing - looked quite cheap in its design, and the anodised crash bobbins and bar ends just made it worse! I had great expectations for the Hornet…
Same thing, this and the GSX 8S were both an utter letdown. I get that it's a budget bike, but they could've really infused it with some aesthetic flavour. We know Honda can do it, looking at the CB650R which is (not exactly but still) this bike's predecessor. A little more could've gone into making it look like a "Hornet" and not the boring child of the NC750N and CB500F. GSX8S is half a step better in looks, and looks to have higher end components too but still not quite there.
Well done, once again. I've been waiting, and this was a cool, clear assessment. Looks like a proper bike for younger riders who are just finding their legs. BUT- this one, like too many modern bikes, offer ZERO carrying capacity and too-little wind protection, which hobbles these things to being DAY TRIPPERS only. Me; I won't wear a back-pack on a bike.
Yeah, that's why i moved from nakeds. Had many, like them all, but was a bit tired of the wind, my area is very windy.. Got a T9 now, it's amazing
Thanks Michael for this very insightful review. Nailed it as you always do!
Used to have a 2005 (pc36) Hornet 600 which I must say was my all time favorite bike. Honda then (in my humble opinion) totally messed up the design from 2006 onward. Had to switch to a Monster 900 (2008), later a BMW R90T (2014) ... 2018, then out of nowhere came the cb650r nsc and I thought finally Honda got it right, after all these years. That's the Hornet successor I had been waiting for so many years. They just didn't get the name right ;)
The Hornet spirit is and always should be about a revy inline four screamer.
Don't know what this new Hornet is about. One shouldn't even call it a Hornet...
Cheers
Agreed, Ide have been much happier if they had just bored and stroked the current 650 I4. Which is already a more low and mid range focused I4
@@toofastnobrakes YWhat next ? An electric Hornet ... Please Honda no further sacrileges
Could not agree more. I used to have a Hornet 250 (Yes, it's a 250 and not a 600, it was mainly sold in Asia). And that engine can really scream! With redline at 16000 RPM, it kinds of sounded like a old V12/V10/V8 F1 car!
Totally agree. The new hornet would have been a peach with that same I4 as the cb650r… I’m also disappointed in Suzuki for jumping on the p-twin bandwagon with the GSX8S… that bike looks so good but give me the gsx-s 750 in-line 4 any day.
This is storytelling, amazing video.
Great honest review.👍
I love the sensible honest review, of what looks /sounds like a good bike. Anyone think the r/h crankcase cover looks awkward.. Just asking.
Love your review
Nice review. Thank you.
Good review! And if Honda does like it usually does, which is listening to what people have to say about it. Then throughout the year they may update the "flaws" even though you can't really say flaws but more points of attention, this bike will be an even bigger hit. We've seen it with the CB650F early years and the newer ones to 2018. And for the CB650R as well.
It's unbelievable that they put this, otherwise we'll sorted, bike out with that jerky throttle.
@@humandroid53 Seems only in sport mode is there some jerkiness.
At first I thought Honda was copying KTM... However the finished product does not look harmonious - more like a lot of parts fitted together?? I like the looks of the Triumph Trident 660 more! Trident has a lovely throttle response and beating the sound of the triple is not easy!! Regards! (Then again I may be biased - After your Trident 660 review I bought a 2023 model for my wife... has 550 km on the clock now and it is a gorgeous bike in person - very well built too! AND I paid very nearly the same price as the Hornet for it over here!! )
Thank you for the review.
I have noticed that there is a downsizing cylinder virus spreading in the bike market. I think Going from an in-line 4s to 2 cylinders will kill these bikes. Too much vibrations with 2 cylinders is what I dislike. Make bikes for tall people too.
The aesthetics are really growing on me.
From initial disappointment to now...very very tempting.
Great review .The bike looks to have very little ground clearance. also it could do with a bash plate but I don't see how that can be mounted. The engine sounds and performs well. I think the Transalp is arguably the more all-round bike.
Great summing up, the engine sounds good. My concern is that a chunk of the potential customers will nbe relatively inexperienced and a fair number won't be very confident - the last thing you'd want is a lack of feedback and a jerky throttle, tbh I wouldn't want to ride on cold and grimey roads with that !
True. And here in Blighty the roads are indeed cold and grimey for 7 months of the year. Maybe the Dunlop-shod bike might feel a little different?
I think the jerky thing is not major, and mainly in sport mode. What lack of feedback?
What would your pick of bikes in that category be for someone looking to upgrade from a Ninja 400?
Like it. Had a hornet 04. Go well with my gsxr as I'm in my 50s now. Suspension might need looking at down the line. Looks OK to me.
Excellent review thx
Any reason why SV650 is left out of the comparison? Other than the fact that it will probably be replaced soon.
True review from a real rider
I’m waiting for the Suzuki GSX 8S - that thing looks like it’ll tickle a lot of tastebuds. Saw both the GSX and Hornet at the NEC - have to say Suzuki clinched it for me. But during these tight times - I reckon the Hornet is going to do very well.
Yeah the Suzuki is what the Honda should have looked like if Honda sticked with the concept
Agree
Suzuki seem better at getting a smooth throttle response.
@@humandroid53 and suzuki has wider 180 section tyres too instead of 160 on the hornet
You Sir are Spot on ..all manufacturers
Have to cut Back on the Energy they have to use to Build Motorcycles
Twins much Cheaper to Produce
Its just Economics. the world is getting
Poorer & they have to Build some
Bikes the Masses Can Afford
That Suzuki 8S looks great
This is my pick for the class, mainly because I can't seem to enjoy triples. I reckon a flash would sort out the on-off chop. Honda seems to have a secret sauce where their twins can pull smooth from very low RPM almost like an i4. Sounds like this new one is no exception. I really like that in a do it all bike that you will be running errands around town with.
hold on until you see the new suzuki gsx8s, im guessing the motor will be quite similar, but less end power but a tiny bit more torque lower but the design of the chassis can be a deal changer, although it will also be more expensive.
@@josemariashearmandemacedo5841 Probably it will be a smoother engine, as it's got twin counter-balance shafts, unlike all the other 270° parallels in the middle-upper displacement range, the 890 Duke being an exception with a balance shaft in the top of the engine. I was listening to the engineer speaking with a European journalist about his experience with how it behaves, runs, feels. The engineer was quite pleased and surprised how lively it was, how eager it felt, how strongly it pulled out of corners. We'll have to see.
Honda has a bore/stroke ratio of: 1.37:1 A compression ratio of 11.0:1
Suzuki 8S: 1.20:1 A compression ratio of 12.8:1
MT-07: 1.17:1 A compression ratio of 11.5:1
Sort of gives you an idea how the engine will feel and where the torque spread will be.
Great review.
great review sir
I wonder if you could do a comparison between lean-sensitive ABS and non-lean-sensitve ABS? How much difference is there and in what situations would there be an advantage to either?
You can find videos taken with professional riders in safe conditions. These videos are mede specifically to highlight the differences. Basically in the corners it locks the front and crashes the bike just like the abs wass not there. That's it.
Up to a certain lean angle (let's say 15 degrees) they work almost the same. At higher añgles the difference comes out
I love these shots
Great review
First good and honest review of the new hornet...thanks I will go for the MT09 instead
It should be compared to a mt07
@@jorisjans I had 07...did not like it
Nice review. Finally a decent mid weight Honda!! Yay!. I rode a 500 for years. Soft suspension but you knew where the bike was. The CB650 was revy and did not feel as well build as my CBR500R. Underdamped suspension that felt cheap and gear box not as crisp. The CB750 sound like a great middle weight bike and great value. Cool. May be suspenders could be improved.
Would this represent a big move up from a Cb500f?
@@martinrea8548 Yes it is quite a bit quicker. The CB500s sign out at about 7,000 rpm whereas the 750 starts to really perform from there. A longer 1st gear too, so you don't need to change up so soon off the lights. You can get to license losing speed in seconds. In my view it is as much power as you need on the road. The headline figures are 90bhp vs 49 bhp. You certainly experience it if you open the throttle and let the revs climb. Highly recommend a test ride. I ended up buying a GSX 8S. Very torquey, a bit more roomy and very stable in corners.
@@paulconnell1309 many thanks for that, Paul. I wonder would it be a bit too quick, dangerous almost. I like the look of the 8S too. I've had the 500 for just over two years now and am looking at possible upgrades/replacements. Then again the 500 is very adequate and feels nice and safe to me so I might hold on to it for another while yet. Best wishes 🏍👍
@@martinrea8548 The Honda 500 platform is great. Enough go to be fun and solid handling and quality. Quite possibly all you ever need. I found the CBR500R suspension to be soft on back roads and it wallowed a bit. Did not scare me, you always knew where the bike was. It did not rev out so you had to change up exiting a corner often. The Suzuki 8 platform handles better. As for power, this is a smooth bike with no surprises, so it will not catch you out. Only as fast as you ride it. Have a test ride when they turn up. Or ride an 8S. I use the quick shifter at normal commuting speeds. Great. Good luck with your process. My suggestion is ride a few bikes when you are ready.
@@paulconnell1309 thanks, Paυl and Happy New Year too you. 🏍👍
Please Honda.. Bring it to the USA, I will go to the dealer TOMORROW and buy one! I LOVED my 2006 CB600F and only ended up getting rid of it because of carb maintenance... I have a 2024 Street Triple RS on order and would cancel it in a heartbeat for this bike!
same here 👍🏽🤞🏽
Great review! Honestly I like the styling, of course is not something flashy, but there are some improvements over the old ones.
My dilemma would be which one would you choose between Honda Hornet and Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory, considering the comfort and reliability, the fun factor is debatable for me because it will be my first bike?!
Tuono isn't a first bike really. You'll never learn to push the Tuono to the limit. Better to get something 2nd hand. Something light with approx 90bhp. Whatever looks coolest to you. The Tuono would be a great 2nd bike.
MT-07 or Z650 would make great 1st bikes to learn on. Both have plenty of power but it isn't wild or untamed power.
I think the Hornet 750, the GSX-8S, the Tuono 660, the 790 and 890 KTM are all a good step up from the 650 class in terms of power, torque, overall chassis and suspension capability.
I luv a 270 crack in a twin, my f850 has it and it sounds great
Agree with you on the looks.... typical honda, though, playing it safe..... really think they missed out with naming it..... sporty honda twins were hawks, the hornet was a 4 pot!
Hope you can also review the new Suzuki gsx-s8 as well and compare it to the same bike's as in this review!
Please put 2023 Honda CL500 Scrambler on your review list, and will it be available in USA?Thanks.
Listening to you makes me fall in love with motorcycle engineering again n again ...
That's some fantastic explanation.
No loud noises no useless drama ...
That's how a techie should speak for the technical minded content consumers ..
This is the difference between an auto expert journalist and a stupid wanna be youtuber ..
man, from a place where a 250cc is consider "big displacement engine", bikes like these makes us envy as hell.
In some ways, Honda are doing what Suzuki did a few decades ago with the Bandit in terms of value for money. Interesting to see a new engine even if it's not a four pot. Similarly Suzuki have binned the SV for a parallel twin. We must surely be on the cusp of the end for IC engine design with R&D budgets being forced into the electric future. Enjoy it while you can
I'm in the market for a middleweight - mainly for lane splitting and punching through the city streets. Looks good for what I need. My problem with bikes is that I look at this bike and think "yeah, that's what I need", but then it's like "but for a couple more grand I could get an MT09", and then that becomes an MT10, and I eventually walk out with a Tuono.
Life’s about having fun, if you have the experience to ride a Tuono get one, I wish I never sold mine, it was an incredible bike. I honestly don’t understand bikes like this, it seems boring, sooner or later you’ll want something different 🤷🏻
lol, right......i hear ya all too well on that philosophy....i expect to see a ton of these around here in LA as commuters.......
@@Critastic these are delivery bikes, as exciting as going to the dentist for a root canal operation
@spiderwebsider Try a Street Triple.
@@markharrison2484 I have one.
I will stick to my 2010 inline 4 hornet which is lighter with a 107 bhp and proper size rear tire and fully adjustable suspension thanks lol 👍
What model bike would be a good replacement the front forks?
Like it. Styling not a problem as I'm getting on so don't want an aggressive looking bike. Had an 04 hornet, which having ridden sports bikes for the last 15 years would go amiss as I'm starting to get kn abit. How about a test ride through Central London. Delivery ride. Ta.
A new version of my 7 year old bmw f800r: Very similar weight, 90bhp and looks. I'll not be switching just yet!
Michael Neeves is the best bike reviewer in the world, maybe a bike professor, thank you MCN. well, comparison with MT-07 and Trident explaining us, what we should look for middle weight naked, and for me is just handling, no need to argue with tech specs and other optional extras. if suspension and fueling is on the negative side, i will go with trident , having 20.000km experience on mt07, i can say that mt07 is plush for city but dangerous for twisties. Trident could be a masterpiece for this category but never had a chance to ride on it. One more thing, hornet headlight looks to me like mixture of Tenere 7 and NC750X.
Beautiful review. Hornet isn't much up to my liking. If it were design wise like on blueprint, than I'd say yes. Considering the rear wheel as well, I don't like 160 on such a bike...
Now the big question, will they make a Hawk 750? (and actually release it in the EU)
I could SO get behind that.
ive got an old hornet 600s and i still love it, a fuel gauge wouldve been nice though
Original hornet >>>> new hornet
awesome video great ! ! ! ! ! !
Honda should of stuck with the original Hornet's round headlight....guess I'll be waiting for a CB750R instead
I had a CB300R for a while and loved the "Neo Cafe" styling which I think Honda pulled off really well.
@@PhilipBallGarry I had one too and it was a great little bike, one of my favorites. I I could afford to keep it and had space I would still have it.
@@DaBinChe me too! It was a bitter sweet day when it went. Bigger bike helped sweeten it but ideally if money and space had allowed, I too would still have it
Did these guys ever revieuw the 2000/2006 models? I want their opinion on it
I`ll say one thing. For my road bikes, you can KEEP all the `electronics` , modes, abs, 7 axis gubbins and such. Spend it on a smooth throttle with flawless fuelling and a good chassis and suspension. Thank you :)
I love CB1000R and CB650R but i always felt like the I-4 engine sound and character doesn't match the looks of these beautiful bikes. I was hoping for a parallel twin with the 270 crank.
When i look at this new Hornet it seems like it would have an I-4 sound, not parallel twin. It's like Honda mixed two different blueprints by mistake.
Yeah for real lol!
Smooth, high revving, peaky engine doesn't match the character of a superbike?
@@ByronWWW "Sound" I'm talking mainly about the sound - you missed the point.
I never said these were not good engines.
@@Mickey_BauerHonda Hornet sounds like this: ruclips.net/video/7ma5ViGLBTE/видео.html
So when's this thing coming to US?
Hope Santa brings you some sunglasses this Christmas:)
I see that people who don't like this hornet are only the ones that liked or had the old model. But really, this new one competes not with the old one but with current market trends and the only thing I see is that it's engine has 20 more hp than the mt07, this gives it an edge. As for the old model, it is long gone, who cares?
I think if you add some of your own styling to this bike it would be a looker too, obviously not "exotic" but a Ermax sportscreen, maybe a cowl + hugger for the rear just to make it a bit more bussy (distract from the skinny tyre)
The PRICE!!
I cannot believe they are pricing it below the MT07
I never had the old model but am disappointed. I was looking for an upgrade to my slow nc750x but this looks just so cheap and frankly like a Kawasaki er6 from years ago. I'm spending elsewhere.
@@tonyparker7356 honda never intended this bike for people looking for exotic expensive bikes
Have you seen the price? Its cheap ffs
And yet its better built than the competetion, its a steal for those that want a naked UJM standard
@@Surpriseify I don't disagree, I guess they looked at the mt-07 and thought, 'we want some of that'. But it'll leave previous hornet owners cold and we've no way of knowing if it's better built. It looks awful imho, in honesty like a previous gen cbf125 but with a 90bhp engine. It looks cheaper than a CBF300 in honesty. If you only priority is bhp / £ then I guess it's got the market licked but for, even as a Honda fan, the MT-07 makes a more compelling case.
@@tonyparker7356 disagree 100%
I have walked around and sat on it
Feels MUCH nicer than the yamaha MT 07-09. Feels better than my old CBF650 even, panels fit together perfectly and materials feel and look much nicer.
Makes the MT look and feel like a cheap toy tbh.
It has always been an awfully made bike tbh, but the cheap price has justified it.
Honda has just given the entire middleweight segment the middlefinger.
Here is a more powerful, and more advanced bike, thats better made, and oh
Also cheaper.
Looks are obviously subjective, i can tell you it does not feel cheap when you look at it up close, and evidently it rides well.
The MT was infamous for being a pretty poorly handling bike, this one evidently is not.
that'll sound ace with a full de cat system on it
When might we see a Middleweight Shootout including the Honda CB750 Hornet, Suzuki GSX-8S, and the Yamaha MT007?
Great commuter bike with great power and price
Sounds great
I think the looks do let it down a bit - especially the front, buggy headlight - it looks it’s tilted upwards a bit too much, not down and aggressive - and the LED cluster is the embodiment of generic. Everyone’s said the same thing about the snatch throttle - it’s a wonder the developers and testers didn’t pick up on that…?
Did he just describe early mt-09 pogo-ing from front to rear on the suspension when braking ???
I love a nice reliable Honda.
What dynamically better bikes are there? The Kawasaki Z900 RS??
I don't like the look of any of those bikes!
Wish designers would go their own way instead of thinking we all want the same current look.
Watched this for the Transalp!
A good reviewer.
Would have liked it to have adjustable suspension up front
deff small bike for u. yur tall. yall wanted elec throttle- thats what u get with it: jerky. like a driveshaft bike. sounds pretty good with the 270 crank, any other advantages to that opposed to a 180?
Hello, which one would you say it's prettier? The yellow one or the white and red? Those are my favorites
We got lemon, cherry vanilla, chocolate cherry and my personal favorite - gray. :)
Happy with Trident 660 so far.
I bought a hornet new in 1999 for £4500 ,just sold it to a friend last year because he really wanted it , I remember I went to trade it in for a Honda blackbird in 2002 and the dealer offered me £3500 , which I agreed , a week later I phoned him up and said I didn’t want to trade it ( he said you can’t want more money for it , I said no I just can’t sell , just give me the blackbird anyway , which was also a great bike , £7000 in todays money it’s a bargain I’d say 🏍🏍👍👍
ULTRA! ☀️🤠 GOD I WANT HONDA HORNET! 🏍️
Just to add, if the bike is flighty, like the MT 07 - which is terrible on fast, windy motorways, I wouldn't want to buy it. My CB650R is perfectly balanced and always feels planted. The MT is really only any good going about town. Anything fast and it gets badly unsettled. A short wheelbase is probably the main problem for both.
Are there any non-flagship bikes being made right now that aren't snatchy when you roll on the throttle? Is it even fair to knock a bike for it when every bike in every class at that price point has the same exact problem?
Fantastice bike
excellent review! you're the first one to name a few flaws of this bike :)
Is there still a place for the cb500f once this one gets on the market? in my country they cost the same
For those who turn 19 and want to jump on a more powerful bike than a 125cc the 500f is a good bike. Also its been out for longer so cheaper and more available parts. And I assume the miles per gallon is much better on the 500 than this bike.
Perfect for the streets in Brisbane Oz,
And compared to my old Suzuki XJ600 Diversion.
This Honda will do perfect 👍
hearing yet another 270 degree twin reminds me yet again why I will keep my 600cc naked until the day I die... nothing compares to that sound!
Hearing a Hornet 600 was what made me decide on which engine I needed - ended up with something a bit safer (cbr650f) but love the sound and revving it out and it works well for commuting too.