Thank you so much for making that 2nd video, I learned a lot more, as to visualizing from distance as to either being early/ late, using the left cone as a reference point, and backing up slow while making small coorections. I am ok, doing straight line and Offset, but I haven't done any Alley parking in school yet. I will be applying what I have learn from you in Parallel and Alley when I return to school on April, 18th . Sadly its only 4 days prior to my MVC's test date in Jersey. Thanks a million again, and thank you for making and deticating this video for me . You made me your biggest fan for life, hands down your instructional videos are the best on utube, and I watched all of what utube has, because you go the extra mile . God Bless.
I’am teaching for the videos. Yes, when an instructor is telling the driver all the moves, I ‘am doing some of the driving I like to have students in the tractor instead of me talking from the driver seat.
Thank you for simplifying this maneuver and I appreciate your student's efforts in being patient as well. That small initial cut is vital to help with steering the trailer and going in too deep can make the trailer be way too early. One of my instructors is from MD and said "less is more". I appreciate instructors who help others with patience and simplicity. Keep the efforts going and stay blessed! HALLELUYAH!
Hey wanted to say nice reference and visualization of “too late” “on time “ “ too late” pretty neat and good for us rookies. I have a interview tomorrow showing my work place I can handle equipment properly up at 2am watching all videos how to alley dock to freshen up. Only practiced on 53” will be testing on a 36-42” eager and nervous, but nice video and again visualization. Subed and like.
It's all about the trailer. You being able to react to the path of the trailer. Please view videos on my playlist. Click on PLAYLIST - Backing and Alley Dock videos. Thank you for your comment.
I'm in trucking school now & I have the straight back & offset with no problem. I did the alley dock last Thursday 2 times by myself. For some reason I can't get it now!! It's so frustrating & with the trailer being 28ft it responds faster. Gonna keep on till I get it again so I can go on the road so I can take my test
Hope you pass your test... Learn to read the trailer. 28 foot trailer moves fast so as you back up , GO SLOW! Go to the dock- Find your reference point. If the trailer is starting to go to the left of your reference point ( early ) Stop it be turning the steering wheel to the left. Don't over steer - if the trailer is reacting, you have enough turn. Practice over and over again until it CLICKS in your head! The trailer only goes where you let it go.
When ya dealin with a shorter trailer, while in reverse, ya wanta turn wheel in small increments. This will create a much safer backing practice. When in reverse, a 28' trlr takes between 4-5' to start changing direction. A 48-53' will cover 8' before beginning to change direction.
+Trucker Steve so this is interesting, in my school the way my instructor is doing it, is having me turn opposite of where we are backing the trailer into, but from over my shoulder the trailer is like almost jackknifed, like it looks 90% and then we turn all the way to other side and start backing up again. I keep watching videos on alley dock and no one seems to be doing the first reverse turn to where it's almost jackknifing.
Will be doing another video on alley dock ASAP. Backing into the alley, ( on the right ) starting with a left- backing up unit the trailer is about 45 degree angle. Steer wheels straight. Now you will back up slowly and answer the question. Is the trailer late - on time - or early. Now it’s up to you to make the proper adjustments when needed to back the trailer into the alley. Take time to go to a truck terminal. See the movement of the trailers into the docks. Also see my playlist. Advance Backing by Shelton. Click onto my homepage or playlist.
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor Very interesting then how my instructor is having me first backup the trailer to where when i turn over my shoulder i see it looking almost perpendicular. I've been doing it this way on American truck simulator and it is not working as well as videos on youtube no one is doing it his way. Hmm
Failed my test 2 times because of this. I retest again this week and hoping third times a charm. Testing in a double axle day cab with a 53’ trailer my issue seems to be coming in too late and trying to force it in the box so my question is if I’m too late, near the blindside is it better to pull forward and make it a straight line back or should I pull up back to starting position and try to be on time? Sometimes when I pull up I get the trailer crooked and the setup is bad. Thanks.
The driver is driving the trailer- reacting to the trailer. NO driver backs up and looks at the Front Tires. But I do have a lot of videos showing the front tires as the drivers back up their trailers.
Thank you. As you back up, you need to react to the trailer. If the trailer is going to the right- react Turn the steering wheel to the right. The trailer will move back to the left. Stop the movement when needed with a left.
You see a traffic light ahead - it green- this is a stale green- as you approach get off the fuel pedal- ( slow down a little). If the light go red, come to a smooth stop in 8th gear. If you are at the point of no return, keep going learn or know what the point of no return is. You can stop any tractor trailer in 8 or 9 gears. If you are way back down shifting to slow down. Hope this is some help to you.
Backing into any Dock, or on thr test you want to be close to the left side or line. If you are heading to the right side, you are LATE. Pull up and move the trailer closer to the left. Be on tine. Entertaining the dock
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor we're using the short trailers like 20 feet on dirt. They swing faster. When I back into a 90 it gets locked where if I turn left or right it still goes the same direction. Can you please help?
@@johnnyyuma3878 Not sure how if you turn the Wheel to the LEFT or Turn the wheel to the RIGHT, the trailer still goes in the same direction. Well let's talk small trailers. (28') . Yes they move faster and many students who oversteer with a 48" trailer will jack knife with a 28' trailer. We try to train students to REACT to the trailer. If you need to stop a trailer from moving to the left, turn the steering wheel to the left to stop the left movement. Once the trailer movement to the trailer has stopped, you have turned the steering wheel enough. If you oversteered to the LEFT, the trailer would move very fast to the RIGHT. PLEASE check out my PLAY- LIST on videos on BACKING and ALLEY DOCKING. Or click onto HOME at the top of my page.
At 9:35 you said you did give him a little help here and there. That’s what an instructor is SUPPOSED to do! Help the student to understand how to get in the box until they get it on their own. Our disgruntled instructor stands outside the truck with his arms folded shaking his head in disappointment and offers no coaching or advice. That is if he’s not chatting it up on his phone during our maneuvers. What a nightmare this is. Can’t wait to get this over with.
Thank you for your Comment. There are many instructors who are not there to train - JUST THERE FOR A CHECK - In Maryland, we don't have Alley Dock but if any of my students want to get a local job - THIS IS A MUST LEARN!
your not showing me what the tractor steering wheels are doing. I need to see what turns are being made and when while seeing the trailer rear and the cones to be able to learn and understand. Also. I need videos to show me how to correct bad approaches. I never have enough "pull up" space and I dont know how to correctly pull up to fix early (all the way to almost touching the cone). nobody gives us directions during the exam, and there is no do-overs, only pull-ups up to 12 points accum.
Will be making a few more videos on Alley docking. Will post be Saturday evening. It’s all about the trailer- you need to react to the trailer. I will do my best to show you where I am steering. Please view all the alley docking videos. One or two may be more helpful.
The alley is straight. 12 feet wide. When you complete the skill, the tractor and trailer will be straight with the rear bumper in the3 foot box. Now backing into the alley, I like the students to get the tractor/ trailer into a 45 degree angle and back in. ( looks like an offset). Review your drivers manual for the instructions.
@Trucker Steve , CDL Instructor I'm saying the trailer straight in the box and they want to can read , the Wrighting on the driver door, so the tractor have to be at an angle.
@Trucker Steve , CDL Instructor The state of Maine examiner will fail you if you have the tractor straight the trailer in the box and I find it stupid.
@@eagle5720 will take a look at your state manual. Are you testing at your CDL school or at the DMV / MVA? At the school, that would be a third party testing. The CDL school is doing the testing for the state. Thank you for your comment on this.
@Trucker Steve , CDL Instructor I'm currently a student @ NTI in Bangor maine and that's how the teaching ous to do it. I told them I have seen other do it with the truck and trailer straight in the box at the end they claimed that's how it done in Maine.
First the set up. Steer to the right. Back up until you see your landing leg. Get the steer tires straight. Back up and when needed react to your trailer. See my home page advance backing or my playlist.
@@truckerstevecdlinstructorwhat do you mean by see the landing gear? Should you see it in the mirror or looking with head out the window? And does that apply to sleepers or daycabs cuz they are different???
@@aiceisoasis you will sit back in your seat. As you begin to back up, the landing leg in your left mirror- should not disappear. It just a helpful reference point- not to over or back up too much. As you back up, now you will determine if you are on time or late. Let’s say you are late-you will give it a right and then quickly back to the left to keep it on time. Hopefully will make more alley docking videos to better help students understand
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor so my problem is over or under steering so basically when you start backing as soon as you see your tires where you want them to be you either turn your steers straight or counter steer to stop the movement and then go back a little bit to see how your trailer reacts?
Yes, you are right. This is a teaching video. When ever an instructor is telling a student all the move, the student is not driving the tractor trailer. But for the first few times it may be needed.
This is not how we were instructed 30 years ago & thank god we did not have this motor mouth to put up with we all learned at our own paces some got it by the third or fourth day me it was by the third week some were by the sixth or or seventh week & some never got it & opted out and got 86ed from the course the course was 10 weeks I don’t recall the total hours we started at 7:00 am & finished At 2 or 3 on some days we were told certain days we were welcomed to stay later if we wanted to and saturdays were open but with minimum instruction saturdays we’re for students that were excelling and were starting to hold their own near graduation the came final exams field & classroom & final road test before all meeting at the Illinois Secretary of State location to go out with the Drivers License Road test Examiner and hopefully passing the test & getting your Illinois Class D Chauffeurs license for Tractor Trailer Semi as that is what it was in 1987 this was a couple of years before the CDL program I passed my exam that day with every one except two had to go for a second shot at which they got and one poor soul failed & Washed out of the Driving School R.I.P. that is the way it was we were coached with 45’ ‘ & 48 ‘ Vans there was 1 48 ‘ Flat bed and a old Tanker what we found waiting for us at SOS or DMV was a nice Single Axle I - H day cab with a L/10 Cummins and a fuller 10 spd roadranger hooked to a funky old 38 ‘ single axle city flyer & non functioning lift gate And we all stopped back by the school to show our leed trainer that we pulled it off he said we were all welcome to keep practiceing everything until we got our first gig which I did for a full month until I got someone to say yeah we will try you out It was local Schneider said yes when they had a opening it was 5 months before they said yes but I was already into a local gig Which we were told we were being trained for not OTR they said you want that you will have to get on with one of those kind of companies
Thank you for taking the time to comment on the video. I always do my best to communicate clearly with my students. Most of my students learn all the skills needed to pass their CDL range skills test is 5 Days. I always go above what is needed and hopefully take many of my students to another level in their training. Yes, I may be a motor mouth who cares
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor well I appologize for the motor mouth remark but 5 days does not seem adequate for CDL when I started back in 87 the program was stretched to 10 weeks and there was only 30 truck related questions on the test they did a good thorough job with us I don’t think I could have done it any sooner some did need more time we were taught a very thorough Pre trip inspection all though in those days they did not test you on that at state we had good instructors it’s all up to the student how bad they want it I caught on to it all pretty good except for shifting I got it though I was driving a class 6 delivery truck for almost 2 years 5 spd with the Dog splitter that 10 spd RR was something Different but I like your video good for beginners good Objective refresher for me & others like me Thankyou for responding
No , I’m teaching for 6 weeks. I want my students to learn as much as possible. So if a student knows how to do alley dock, I want to take that student to another level. I want as many of my students to master as many skills as possible or be really good at the skills they know. Thank you for your comment. Best to you
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor Best to you Steve I’m sure your a fine instructor when I got good at it the warehouse manager where I worked ask me to give some hook & drop lessons & spotting lessons to his assistant and the leed man on the dock because he said these guys need trailers pulled & spotted all day & we don’t have a yard mule or the money to bring on a full time yard man so I coached those guys and then some on how to spot & drive in the yard they got it within a day with my unconventional methods I made them each ride with me on three moves and said to them now tell me what did I just do I only took a few minutes I did not hit anyone or any thing I did not drop the trailer on it’s nose I told them for strate backing keep your head moving and watch your mirrors if the trailer veers to the right gently turn your wheel the right very slightly don’t oversteer move slow no foot feed the same goes for if the trailer veers to the left very gently turn your wheel to the left I told them you are going slow both hands all the time but you don’t have to do a death grip that’s for highway speed in case you blow a steer these guys stayed out there until 1:00 am when I came in Monday morning I said well bless me I could not believe what I was seeing we got some super yard jockeys NOW!!!
This video is for students who need help with this skill. Maryland students don’t have to do any alley dock skills. But we do have fun training to do it. So the video is for yoy. Hope it’s is some help to you. Best to you.
I am going school in Maryland and gonna have exam.they said to me,I have to done with alloy dock.now I am learning from you maryland students doesn’t have to do alley dock.it’s weird
@@burakkozlu377 What is the name of the school? Maryland does not have Alley dock.. Off-set to the right and Sight Side Parallel park. After August 22,nd There will be no more Off-set as we are now doing it. Also no more sight side parallel park. Lastly the pre-trip is not the same but you will love. The new back up is a reverse off set.. to me almost looks like a Blind Side Parrel park. Get back to me on this... Name of school...
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor I am going united cdl school in Frederick md.Our examiner is 3rd party from wv.maybe it makes sense.I don’t know the laws.I hope no more alley dock and parallel.
@@burakkozlu377 If your tester is certified in Maryland, there is no alley dock. If he taking you to the Fredrick MVA, they may be doing the new skill test. I will have it on my site ASAP. Where will you be taking your test? I have seen United CDL School trailers at the Fredrick MVA.
A 90° back is extremely harsh on equipment & has numerous blind spots. A 45° is far safer & gives a driver more upto date info about achieving a successful back. 90° backs usually endup with another driver loosing a hood, especially considering that most drivers today are either 1. To damn lazy to get out & look 2. To damn fat to climb in/out multiple times 3. To damn stupid to have a license 4. Can't read or understand ENGLISH 5. ALL THE ABOVE
Thank you, JOSHUA,, for your helpful information. Just getting ready to start my day training. You got me off to a good start. Note, the comment is Joshua. I like everyone to express their comments.
Being honest & being real. 2 important factors in this industry. It aint perfect, it aint easy. It takes a special breed to meet this job head on & put up with it very demanding field. Stressful to say the least at times. Those who thrive in stressful & sometimes chaotic situations will adapt. They will overcome. They are the breed that this industry demands. Those are the drivers that succeed & weather the numerous storms (aka changes), & comeout even better than what they were when they first began. Learning is the most important factor of all. Dont ever quit learnin. Especially when tackling mountains. Whatever gear ya climb the mountain in, drop down 1 gear before the descent. Pay attention to signs. My mom & dad always told me "SPEED MATTERS, if ya come down slow, ya can do it over & over again. Come down fast & that might be your 1 & only chance". 22yrs in this industry as a driver with a lifelong commitment thanks to being a 3rd generation. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. Every mornin that our father in heaven allows me to look thru that windshield, is a completely blessed day. The best paintings in the world, are done by the hand of the father & seen thru a windshield by a truckdriver
Backing is the driver reacting to the trailer. If the trailer is heading to the left and you want to stop this movement, you react by steering to the LEFT. This will move the trailer to the RIGHT. Once again, you control how far you want the trailer to go to the right. Once again, stop the movement by steering to the Right. How is your straight line backing? Off-set What state are you being trained in.? Go to my playlist and view videos on backing. Click onto playlist.
@Trucker Steve , CDL Instructor in California in approximately 15 hrs into the classes, ive been watching all your videos , I'm going to try and use some of those tricks you use to teach your students. I wish i was closer to your school id definitely pay to learn from you.
Thank you so much for making that 2nd video, I learned a lot more, as to visualizing from distance as to either being early/ late, using the left cone as a reference point, and backing up slow while making small coorections. I am ok, doing straight line and Offset, but I haven't done any Alley parking in school yet. I will be applying what I have learn from you in Parallel and Alley when I return to school on April, 18th . Sadly its only 4 days prior to my MVC's test date in Jersey. Thanks a million again, and thank you for making and deticating this video for me . You made me your biggest fan for life, hands down your instructional videos are the best on utube, and I watched all of what utube has, because you go the extra mile . God Bless.
Please pass your test. Thank you for your comment.
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor Hi Steve
Can you please provide me with your/ school, contact information, and location .
I’am teaching for the videos. Yes, when an instructor is telling the driver all the moves, I ‘am doing some of the driving I like to have students in the tractor instead of me talking from the driver seat.
These videos are so helpful….thank you!
Thank you for simplifying this maneuver and I appreciate your student's efforts in being patient as well. That small initial cut is vital to help with steering the trailer and going in too deep can make the trailer be way too early. One of my instructors is from MD and said "less is more". I appreciate instructors who help others with patience and simplicity. Keep the efforts going and stay blessed! HALLELUYAH!
Thank you 🙏 for your kind words and insight.
Thank you very much for the teaching. Much appreciated.
Thank you 🙏.
Thanks for sharing. Definitely helps me out seeing this and how little you’re turning the steering wheel . Great video
Thank you Joseph.
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Wow awesome buddy..he did very well only one shot backing up a trailer truck I hope someday that I can drive that too
Nice video trucker Steve great work
Great instructions an explanation
It helped me somewhat l have to test this week coming up hopefully I can remember the technique
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Very helpful video ❤ Got my class A CDL 🎉🎉 ..Thank you❤
Congratulations 🎉.
Thank you!!
Hey wanted to say nice reference and visualization of “too late” “on time “ “ too late” pretty neat and good for us rookies. I have a interview tomorrow showing my work place I can handle equipment properly up at 2am watching all videos how to alley dock to freshen up. Only practiced on 53” will be testing on a 36-42” eager and nervous, but nice video and again visualization. Subed and like.
Thank you! Hope you will get that job.
You are the best , thanks
Thank you so much it’s amazing video ❤
Brother I watched all your alley docking videos and to tell you the truth, it helped me out a lot on my second day of alley docking
Thank you for your kind words. Please refer my videos to your CDL classmates.
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor Will do
I got my cdl a today. I was sooo nervous about doing the 90. But, I did it! RUclips videos were so helpful 🎉
I'm so glad! Congratulations 🎉🍾
@truckerstevecdlinstructor thank you Mr. Steve!! So many of your videos helped me. It was the best feeling hearing that I passed!
I wish they pointed more at the front wheels haha but this is a good video
It's all about the trailer. You being able to react to the path of the trailer. Please view videos on my playlist. Click on PLAYLIST - Backing and Alley Dock videos. Thank you for your comment.
Exactly bc that's where my biggest issue is at with the steering tires 🤦🏿♂️😩
This video is very helpful
I'm in trucking school now & I have the straight back & offset with no problem. I did the alley dock last Thursday 2 times by myself. For some reason I can't get it now!! It's so frustrating & with the trailer being 28ft it responds faster. Gonna keep on till I get it again so I can go on the road so I can take my test
Hope you pass your test... Learn to read the trailer. 28 foot trailer moves fast so as you back up , GO SLOW! Go to the dock- Find your reference point. If the trailer is starting to go to the left of your reference point ( early ) Stop it be turning the steering wheel to the left. Don't over steer - if the trailer is reacting, you have enough turn. Practice over and over again until it CLICKS in your head! The trailer only goes where you let it go.
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor I passed my test with flying colors. I took it July 8. I'm so proud of myself got my 1st trucking job
Way to go! CDL Driver, stay safe and take your time. Don’t ever be in a rush
When ya dealin with a shorter trailer, while in reverse, ya wanta turn wheel in small increments. This will create a much safer backing practice. When in reverse, a 28' trlr takes between 4-5' to start changing direction. A 48-53' will cover 8' before beginning to change direction.
Great video
Thank you! Where are you training for your CDL?
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor I just got mine two days ago in Kentucky
+Trucker Steve so this is interesting, in my school the way my instructor is doing it, is having me turn opposite of where we are backing the trailer into, but from over my shoulder the trailer is like almost jackknifed, like it looks 90% and then we turn all the way to other side and start backing up again. I keep watching videos on alley dock and no one seems to be doing the first reverse turn to where it's almost jackknifing.
Will be doing another video on alley dock ASAP. Backing into the alley, ( on the right ) starting with a left- backing up unit the trailer is about 45 degree angle. Steer wheels straight. Now you will back up slowly and answer the question. Is the trailer late - on time - or early. Now it’s up to you to make the proper adjustments when needed to back the trailer into the alley. Take time to go to a truck terminal. See the movement of the trailers into the docks. Also see my playlist. Advance Backing by Shelton. Click onto my homepage or playlist.
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor Very interesting then how my instructor is having me first backup the trailer to where when i turn over my shoulder i see it looking almost perpendicular. I've been doing it this way on American truck simulator and it is not working as well as videos on youtube no one is doing it his way. Hmm
Failed my test 2 times because of this. I retest again this week and hoping third times a charm. Testing in a double axle day cab with a 53’ trailer my issue seems to be coming in too late and trying to force it in the box so my question is if I’m too late, near the blindside is it better to pull forward and make it a straight line back or should I pull up back to starting position and try to be on time? Sometimes when I pull up I get the trailer crooked and the setup is bad. Thanks.
Did u pass?
You need to film more of the front tires so we can see how he's putting it in
The driver is driving the trailer- reacting to the trailer. NO driver backs up and looks at the Front Tires. But I do have a lot of videos showing the front tires as the drivers back up their trailers.
Nice video
Very helpful because they don't teach this in Indiana. The exam maneuvers here are straight back, offset and parallel.
Same in Maryland. Really need to learn to do a 90 degree alley dock. This video was requested.
This great stuff
Thank you. As you back up, you need to react to the trailer. If the trailer is going to the right- react Turn the steering wheel to the right. The trailer will move back to the left. Stop the movement when needed with a left.
Hey trucker steve, what if am driving in 8th gear and a stop then goes on red before I could gear down. What's the safest way to come to a stop?
You see a traffic light ahead - it green- this is a stale green- as you approach get off the fuel pedal- ( slow down a little). If the light go red, come to a smooth stop in 8th gear. If you are at the point of no return, keep going learn or know what the point of no return is. You can stop any tractor trailer in 8 or 9 gears. If you are way back down shifting to slow down. Hope this is some help to you.
Will a do have a test today Just need to rember a few key point
What happens to the 4wayflashers while backing
Not required on any range skill testing. If your CDL program wants it, then do it. Not required
Right line? Left line? I suppose it depends from which side your looking at.
Backing into any Dock, or on thr test you want to be close to the left side or line. If you are heading to the right side, you are LATE. Pull up and move the trailer closer to the left. Be on tine. Entertaining the dock
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor we're using the short trailers like 20 feet on dirt. They swing faster. When I back into a 90 it gets locked where if I turn left or right it still goes the same direction. Can you please help?
@@johnnyyuma3878 Not sure how if you turn the Wheel to the LEFT or Turn the wheel to the RIGHT, the trailer still goes in the same direction. Well let's talk small trailers. (28') . Yes they move faster and many students who oversteer with a 48" trailer will jack knife with a 28' trailer. We try to train students to REACT to the trailer. If you need to stop a trailer from moving to the left, turn the steering wheel to the left to stop the left movement. Once the trailer movement to the trailer has stopped, you have turned the steering wheel enough. If you oversteered to the LEFT, the trailer would move very fast to the RIGHT. PLEASE check out my PLAY- LIST on videos on BACKING and ALLEY DOCKING. Or click onto HOME at the top of my page.
Where is this located ?? I have a class a cdl but I need to learn how to alleydock ? Im subscribing
Woodlawn, Maryland. 6901 Security Blvd.
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor thank you
Known as Bumping. The Dock
We need to see the tractor drive wheels
Steer tires ( front tires) will hopefully do one with the steering and drive tires Thank you for your feedback
At 9:35 you said you did give him a little help here and there. That’s what an instructor is SUPPOSED to do! Help the student to understand how to get in the box until they get it on their own. Our disgruntled instructor stands outside the truck with his arms folded shaking his head in disappointment and offers no coaching or advice. That is if he’s not chatting it up on his phone during our maneuvers. What a nightmare this is. Can’t wait to get this over with.
Thank you for your Comment. There are many instructors who are not there to train - JUST THERE FOR A CHECK - In Maryland, we don't have Alley Dock but if any of my students want to get a local job - THIS IS A MUST LEARN!
your not showing me what the tractor steering wheels are doing. I need to see what turns are being made and when while seeing the trailer rear and the cones to be able to learn and understand. Also. I need videos to show me how to correct bad approaches. I never have enough "pull up" space and I dont know how to correctly pull up to fix early (all the way to almost touching the cone). nobody gives us directions during the exam, and there is no do-overs, only pull-ups up to 12 points accum.
Will be making a few more videos on Alley docking. Will post be Saturday evening. It’s all about the trailer- you need to react to the trailer. I will do my best to show you where I am steering. Please view all the alley docking videos. One or two may be more helpful.
Put a few more on my playlist - ones you may have missed.
In Maine they want to the tractor to be atleast at 45 degrees angle when you finish.
The alley is straight. 12 feet wide. When you complete the skill, the tractor and trailer will be straight with the rear bumper in the3 foot box. Now backing into the alley, I like the students to get the tractor/ trailer into a 45 degree angle and back in. ( looks like an offset). Review your drivers manual for the instructions.
@Trucker Steve , CDL Instructor I'm saying the trailer straight in the box and they want to can read , the Wrighting on the driver door, so the tractor have to be at an angle.
@Trucker Steve , CDL Instructor The state of Maine examiner will fail you if you have the tractor straight the trailer in the box and I find it stupid.
@@eagle5720 will take a look at your state manual. Are you testing at your CDL school or at the DMV / MVA? At the school, that would be a third party testing. The CDL school is doing the testing for the state. Thank you for your comment on this.
@Trucker Steve , CDL Instructor I'm currently a student @ NTI in Bangor maine and that's how the teaching ous to do it. I told them I have seen other do it with the truck and trailer straight in the box at the end they claimed that's how it done in Maine.
When you start first is steer to the right and back up
First the set up. Steer to the right. Back up until you see your landing leg. Get the steer tires straight. Back up and when needed react to your trailer. See my home page advance backing or my playlist.
@@truckerstevecdlinstructorwhat do you mean by see the landing gear? Should you see it in the mirror or looking with head out the window? And does that apply to sleepers or daycabs cuz they are different???
@@aiceisoasis you will sit back in your seat. As you begin to back up, the landing leg in your left mirror- should not disappear. It just a helpful reference point- not to over or back up too much. As you back up, now you will determine if you are on time or late. Let’s say you are late-you will give it a right and then quickly back to the left to keep it on time.
Hopefully will make more alley docking videos to better help students understand
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor so my problem is over or under steering so basically when you start backing as soon as you see your tires where you want them to be you either turn your steers straight or counter steer to stop the movement and then go back a little bit to see how your trailer reacts?
@@aiceisoasis you will get better and better and learn to react to your trailer the more you times you back up. It will CLICK soon.
I get it
Your cones are way winder than the ones we do here in Ontario
It’s the alley lines. 12 feet wide. Cones are on the outside of the lines. Tractor and trailer must be in the alley inside the lines.
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Great video but you are telling what to do so, technically you are doing it.
See above comment. Instructor doing all the move’s
Yes, you are right. This is a teaching video. When ever an instructor is telling a student all the move, the student is not driving the tractor trailer. But for the first few times it may be needed.
This is not how we were instructed 30 years ago & thank god we did not have this motor mouth to put up with we all learned at our own paces some got it by the third or fourth day me it was by the third week some were by the sixth or or seventh week & some never got it & opted out and got 86ed from the course the course was 10 weeks I don’t recall the total hours we started at 7:00 am & finished At 2 or 3 on some days we were told certain days we were welcomed to stay later if we wanted to and saturdays were open but with minimum instruction saturdays we’re for students that were excelling and were starting to hold their own near graduation the came final exams field & classroom & final road test before all meeting at the Illinois Secretary of State location to go out with the Drivers License Road test Examiner and hopefully passing the test & getting your Illinois Class D Chauffeurs license for Tractor Trailer Semi as that is what it was in 1987 this was a couple of years before the CDL program I passed my exam that day with every one except two had to go for a second shot at which they got and one poor soul failed & Washed out of the Driving School R.I.P. that is the way it was we were coached with 45’ ‘ & 48 ‘ Vans there was 1 48 ‘ Flat bed and a old Tanker what we found waiting for us at SOS or DMV was a nice Single Axle I - H day cab with a L/10 Cummins and a fuller 10 spd roadranger hooked to a funky old 38 ‘ single axle city flyer & non functioning lift gate And we all stopped back by the school to show our leed trainer that we pulled it off he said we were all welcome to keep practiceing everything until we got our first gig which I did for a full month until I got someone to say yeah we will try you out It was local Schneider said yes when they had a opening it was 5 months before they said yes but I was already into a local gig Which we were told we were being trained for not OTR they said you want that you will have to get on with one of those kind of companies
Thank you for taking the time to comment on the video. I always do my best to communicate clearly with my students. Most of my students learn all the skills needed to pass their CDL range skills test is 5 Days. I always go above what is needed and hopefully take many of my students to another level in their training. Yes, I may be a motor mouth who cares
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor well I appologize for the motor mouth remark but 5 days does not seem adequate for CDL when I started back in 87 the program was stretched to 10 weeks and there was only 30 truck related questions on the test they did a good thorough job with us I don’t think I could have done it any sooner some did need more time we were taught a very thorough Pre trip inspection all though in those days they did not test you on that at state we had good instructors it’s all up to the student how bad they want it I caught on to it all pretty good except for shifting I got it though I was driving a class 6 delivery truck for almost 2 years 5 spd with the Dog splitter that 10 spd RR was something Different but I like your video good for beginners good Objective refresher for me & others like me Thankyou for responding
No , I’m teaching for 6 weeks. I want my students to learn as much as possible. So if a student knows how to do alley dock, I want to take that student to another level. I want as many of my students to master as many skills as possible or be really good at the skills they know. Thank you for your comment. Best to you
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor Best to you Steve I’m sure your a fine instructor when I got good at it the warehouse manager where I worked ask me to give some hook & drop lessons & spotting lessons to his assistant and the leed man on the dock because he said these guys need trailers pulled & spotted all day & we don’t have a yard mule or the money to bring on a full time yard man so I coached those guys and then some on how to spot & drive in the yard they got it within a day with my unconventional methods I made them each ride with me on three moves and said to them now tell me what did I just do I only took a few minutes I did not hit anyone or any thing I did not drop the trailer on it’s nose I told them for strate backing keep your head moving and watch your mirrors if the trailer veers to the right gently turn your wheel the right very slightly don’t oversteer move slow no foot feed the same goes for if the trailer veers to the left very gently turn your wheel to the left I told them you are going slow both hands all the time but you don’t have to do a death grip that’s for highway speed in case you blow a steer these guys stayed out there until 1:00 am when I came in Monday morning I said well bless me I could not believe what I was seeing we got some super yard jockeys NOW!!!
Great advice. You did good!
If he didn’t help he would of failed. Good just though
This video is for students who need help with this skill. Maryland students don’t have to do any alley dock skills. But we do have fun training to do it. So the video is for yoy. Hope it’s is some help to you. Best to you.
I am going school in Maryland and gonna have exam.they said to me,I have to done with alloy dock.now I am learning from you maryland students doesn’t have to do alley dock.it’s weird
@@burakkozlu377 What is the name of the school? Maryland does not have Alley dock.. Off-set to the right and Sight Side Parallel park. After August 22,nd There will be no more Off-set as we are now doing it. Also no more sight side parallel park. Lastly the pre-trip is not the same but you will love. The new back up is a reverse off set.. to me almost looks like a Blind Side Parrel park. Get back to me on this... Name of school...
@@truckerstevecdlinstructor I am going united cdl school in Frederick md.Our examiner is 3rd party from wv.maybe it makes sense.I don’t know the laws.I hope no more alley dock and parallel.
@@burakkozlu377 If your tester is certified in Maryland, there is no alley dock. If he taking you to the Fredrick MVA, they may be doing the new skill test. I will have it on my site ASAP. Where will you be taking your test? I have seen United CDL School trailers at the Fredrick MVA.
More practice
That is the KEY word. PRACTICE! After 35 to 40 times backing into the alley, you should be ok. Each range day, 8 alley dock if possible
A 90° back is extremely harsh on equipment & has numerous blind spots. A 45° is far safer & gives a driver more upto date info about achieving a successful back. 90° backs usually endup with another driver loosing a hood, especially considering that most drivers today are either
1. To damn lazy to get out & look
2. To damn fat to climb in/out multiple times
3. To damn stupid to have a license
4. Can't read or understand ENGLISH
5. ALL THE ABOVE
Thank you, JOSHUA,, for your helpful information. Just getting ready to start my day training. You got me off to a good start. Note, the comment is Joshua. I like everyone to express their comments.
Being honest & being real. 2 important factors in this industry. It aint perfect, it aint easy. It takes a special breed to meet this job head on & put up with it very demanding field. Stressful to say the least at times. Those who thrive in stressful & sometimes chaotic situations will adapt. They will overcome. They are the breed that this industry demands. Those are the drivers that succeed & weather the numerous storms (aka changes), & comeout even better than what they were when they first began.
Learning is the most important factor of all. Dont ever quit learnin. Especially when tackling mountains. Whatever gear ya climb the mountain in, drop down 1 gear before the descent. Pay attention to signs. My mom & dad always told me "SPEED MATTERS, if ya come down slow, ya can do it over & over again. Come down fast & that might be your 1 & only chance".
22yrs in this industry as a driver with a lifelong commitment thanks to being a 3rd generation. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. Every mornin that our father in heaven allows me to look thru that windshield, is a completely blessed day. The best paintings in the world, are done by the hand of the father & seen thru a windshield by a truckdriver
Not a good trainer
Okay, are you an instructor or a student? Why am I not a good trainer?
Steve if you are doing this 90 and you began to jackknife which way would you turn your wheel to keep from jackknifing
Steve I'm really struggling on the backing up part of school please any tips can help
Backing is the driver reacting to the trailer. If the trailer is heading to the left and you want to stop this movement, you react by steering to the LEFT. This will move the trailer to the RIGHT. Once again, you control how far you want the trailer to go to the right. Once again, stop the movement by steering to the Right. How is your straight line backing? Off-set What state are you being trained in.? Go to my playlist and view videos on backing. Click onto playlist.
@Trucker Steve , CDL Instructor in California in approximately 15 hrs into the classes, ive been watching all your videos , I'm going to try and use some of those tricks you use to teach your students. I wish i was closer to your school id definitely pay to learn from you.