Orange Pi 5 - Easy Setup and Overview!
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- The Orange Pi 5 is a powerful new single board computer that is actually available to purchase! In this video, I review the specs of the Orange Pi 5 and then configure it with an initial OS running on a microSD card and then flash the OS onto a connected M.2 SSD for super fast performance.
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Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
01:09 Orange Pi 5 specs + comparison to Raspberry Pi 4
03:29 Orange Pi 5 lack of online documentation
04:27 What you need to get started with the Orange Pi 5
05:17 Flashing Ubuntu onto a microSD card
06:50 Preparing your Orange Pi 5
10:40 Orange Pi 5 initial boot and setup
13:00 How to boot off of the M.2 SSD
25:11 Benchmark the Orange Pi 5 M.2 SSD
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High production value, clear, concise, to the point. You earned a sub, sir. Thanks!
I am in the comments right now to say the exact same thing. I am a data scientist by higher ed quals and job title/actual function. In short I am a data scientist with very little experience with Ubuntu and a hobby interest in Arduino and RPi. Recently upgraded my soldering skills. But my skill set gap has been in Linux. Hate to admit it but it’s intimidating despite an accomplished career and very respectable education in data science from a very well respected American university. But I never have been required to use anything based on Unix. So this particular awesome video has served as a bridge between my voluntary hobby and known gaps in my professional skill set. Now I have a very good reason (hobby) and very good intro (this channel). Long story short, “thank you”.
@@HazardousAbacus If you are a data scientist, have you purchased a Orange Pi 5 yet, and tried any TensorFlow, or PyTorch models on this SBC? I am really curious to find out how well the 6 TOPS NPU works on this SBC. Or if anyone has been able to use the on board NPU for that matter.
Love the vids. Been watching since 20k subs or around there. Videos are always getting better, thanks Chris!
Cheers - thanks for being a long time subscriber!
Really helpful content! Especially the boot off of ssd part. I have a 5+ board with emmc, was able to boot it off from my emmc following the same instructions! Huge thanks 🙏
Chris, love your video.this is exactly what I was looking for!
Appreciate your review, the "have to choose between WiFi and the SSD" was a real deal killer.
Still awesome info that fixed my issue with installation process. Thanks!
Finally something beside RISC V that we can be excited about and even buy !
Nicely done!! Got me going with my Orange Pi 5 in short order.
Helpful and informative. Thanks!
Great vids! I've learned a lot. Also love the LTT desk mat ;-)
Thank you, I really appreciate this video, you are basically the only good and usable source for this on the interwebs.
Excellent video - the guide is even better! Thank you, got my Orange Pi up and running with a 128Mb NVMe in about an hour. Good stuff!
Cheers - thanks for watching!
not a chance you got an image thats less than 1 Gb large m8 wtf
@@andrewcarrillo4814Typo m8. *Gb
ordered one today. saved your URL for future reference
thanx, and I subscribed
A very useful video. Thanks!
Some additional pieces of info that could have come handy to novices:
- Mentioning that it is possible (and useful) to configure their DHCP server (usually router) to give this particular MAC address the same IP address every time
- A recommendation for a WiFi&BT via USB dongle that will work out of the box
- How to use X serve to connect to this machine from another desktop. Failing that, some other way of GUI access - RDP, VNC...
Thank you algorithm for leading me here. I'm going to check this product out for sure.
I love you!!!! You solve so easy the nvme Installation
Thank you for the great video. The OPI5 is the new kid on the block but there is already a lot of activity regarding OS choices, use cases, and documentation. The one omission is on-board WiFi but that can be solved easily with a WiFi USB dongle. One huge feature over the RPi is M.2 storage but getting the OS image onto a NVME SSD can be a bit tricky.
The 8gb OPI5 first came out with a price point of $85 but now has quickly risen to $145. Still a good price compared to the Rock Pi 5B or the Khadas Edge 2.
if you boot off a SD card, you can open a browser and use it to download the OS image file
once downloaded, right click on it in the file manager
a context menu pops up with an option to open the file in an "image writer" app
I used this to write Armbian to the NVME drive and it worked flawlessly
good luck
I just got an Orange Pi 5 Plus, and I'm learning how to spring it to life. I am studying your video with great interest. Thank you for your excellence. You asked for help regarding a very small screw size to fasten down an m.2 device. I think it could be the small screw size that is on the bottom of the POSTS used to fasten down an m.2 SSD. One day on my Asrock motherboard, while trying to remove the small screw from an empty m.2 slot, the post unscrewed with the screw still stuck in the POST. The POST has an integrated bottom screw that is a VERY small diameter. My motherboard has a lot of very small holes in the m.2 slots to accommodate all the different m.2 lengths.
I found a screw that just needs to screw in, and the flange holds it down. I noticed taking apart a RING doorbell. Their security screws holding the metal case are perfect. You might need the screwdriver that comes with RING. For the ssd, I flipped opi5 over and screwed it in through that. The flange on the screw catches it just right
amazing video! Thanks
I hope this Orange Pi will have more community support. It is a good starting point since Raspberry Pi won't be out at least until 2024 which took too long.
I love the fact that there is a built in NPU that is rated at 6 TOPS, but I haven't seen anyone that has tried out any Tensorflow, or Pytorch models on this Orange Pi 5. I am trying to find out if anyone has any information about the NPU on the Orange Pi 5.
@@sgodsellify I’m wondering this too! Did you ever find any examples?
Do you think it would only be for inference or do you think you could do pre training of a smaller LLM on it?
If not, maybe fine tuning or in context learning 🤔…
Just running a LLM on it locally would be cool though.
Lack of availability of the Raspberry Pi has definitely accelerated interest in other options.
100% agree - I may have never even tried out this board if not for my inability to buy Raspberry Pi's. Any other boards I should try out?
I'm so interested in other options since rasp pie is no longer keeping a stock.
Yea it seems we won't see a Pi 5 till 2025 which is what Ebon Upon said and gave context to the decision during a recent interview.
I know, it's kind of sad that building a complete raspberry pi system is now just expensive as buying a better Celeron Nuc type mini computer that is way more powerful..
It will have long term implications.
Excellent video!
Doesn’t anyone find it weird downloading an OS from Google Drive? 🤔
Classic!
That's exactly why I didn't order one from their Aliexpress store. It's a red flag especially considering that I planned to expose mine to the public internet for an IoT project.
Something else that weirds me out about these reviews is that most reviewers just mention the GPIO interface without testing it to inform the audience whether it works and whether there are even supported libraries for it.
no, what is wrong with that? we use google drive for version management/code sharing in our team...
@@cokeforeverThe software in the google drive share could be manipulated or it could have malware that you cannot see. Verify! Do not trust!
Just use a different OS
I was really impressed with the Orange Pi 5 and the features it offers for its price. The video was very clear and concise, making it easy for anyone to follow along and set up the board. The M.2 storage is a huge plus and the Rockchip SoC provides good support for Linux. I agree with others that it would have been nice to have onboard WiFi, but it's easily solved with a USB dongle. Overall, this is a great option for those looking for a budget-friendly single-board computer with plenty of power and features.
There are A LOT of bad tutorials put on youtube by losers looking for clickbait and want to make others think they know what they're talking about when they don't. You, sir, are NOT one of those people. Thank you for having a lucid, easy-to-follow, and most importantly, ACCURATE tutorial.
Thank you Chris!! 👍💯
Great video 👍
22:52 -- very helpful note on UUID randomization-dematching for the two drives (nvme vs. microsd).
Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
Thanks for the vid
that anker soundcore is asome, mine has 7 years and work as new, the battery life is amazing
For the M.2 mounting, I bought an M.2 screw kit from Amazon and used two standoffs, one underneath and one on top.
THANK YOU!
Nice video, thanks :)
I just took delivery of mine. Looking forward to setting it up. Raspberry pi is resting on their laurels and not innovating. I truly hope OP and others gain more support.
Great video like always... I do have a question. With the PI I added a POE board. Are you able to add that to this board? Plus one other thing your 3D printer you talk about can you share which one you have? I'm looking to get into 3D printing. Keep up the great work. One more thing do you plan on updating UDM-Pro setup for 2023? A lot of changes have been done just thought it would be good well when you have time.
Nice tut, +1 Bro
It's Good to see more companies coming into the market it helps with the high demand and pricing on these boards.💯😊
Haha, nice to see my case in action :)
Really nice job! For anyone interested, the STL is in the blog post.
I used an M2 bolt and a nut to fix the nvme to the board and a USB dongle for wifi. USB C to hdmi adaptor for a second monitor. I have been very impressed by your video. I setup my Orange Pi 5's nvme by copying the image I flashed my micro sd with to the desktop. After setting the spi flash which took about 5 minutes I used dd to copy the image to the nvme drive.
Hi, can you document which usb WiFi dongle you used? I tried one and failed!
@@javiermitchell7073 It is a TP-Link Archer T2U nano that I use
sir what is dd by the way, newbie here
@@pisowifingbayanpremium1026 DD is the Linux command to convert and copy files
@@pisowifingbayanpremium1026 dd is a command-line utility whose primary purpose is to convert and copy files. I followed the user manual 2.5.1 with an image file on the desktop of the micro SD card that was running Ubuntu on the OrangePi5 at the time. Take care to get the exact file name and location.
Doesn't it make more sense to regenerate UUID on the NVMe drive instead of the SD card then you wouldn't need to worry about conflicts with any SD distribution? Not sure if that's more difficult or impossible but just asking..
Hi Chris, how do you make armbian boot from nvme?. The nand-sata-install utility seems to be different in armbian. What option should you use?
I just recently got a NanoPi R5S to set up as an overall monitor for my homelab mostly because of the 2.5GBE. might want to look at that as well
Orange Pi 5 and similar boards using RK3588 chips are much more superior to Raspbery Pi 4. Even the previous generation of RK, which is RK3399 was already superior, 3588 can be already used as a full-fledged desktop replacement for most of the tasks.
As for the WiFi and Bluetooth you don't need to sacrifice the M.2 slot - you can just find a USB dongle which is compatible to Linux.
And the las bit - you didn't need to flash the M.2 NVME drive with stock img you downloaded - you could have just clonned your SD card to it, using the same DD command. The only difference is that you would need to extend the SSD partition after that, to span all your 128 Gb drive and extend a filesystem, but that can be done with just two commands
That is what I was thinking
How about that ability for POE powering the board?
What are people using for power? I can’t find a good usbC that supports 5V/4A or multi port
The Orange PI 5 version with 16Gb of RAM does offer wifi and bluetooth (M.2 E-KEY) onboard. It also ships with 2x 2.5G ethernet, a mic, IR-receiver, eMMC, 2x HDMI out, 1x HDMI in, audio in/out, 2x USB 2.0, 1x USB 3.0, 1x USB-C port, NVMe PCIe 4x (M.2 M_KEY), touch interface, LCD, camera, Micro SD card slot, 16Mb/32Mb SPI FLASH, 40 pin expansion slot and more... It is a MONSTER!! And I bought one ;-)
Thank you for the awesome video! Do you know if these steps are the same for orange pi 5B?
Great video - thanks. If at some point I'd like to replace OrangePi5 board for a model with more RAM, would same M.2 drive with "old" OS work in the new one ?
It seems OrangePi did a good deal sticking to Rockchip SoC. It does make things a little bit better in terms of early on support. H3 and H5 community driven driver development for linux took forever. Allwinner makes good SoC but they only support Android fully. I'd say linux support is vestigial. They don't seem to be interested in higher performance Cortex models as well as they stick to Cortex A53/55 atm.
Hey Chris. Is it possible to run Freepbx on the Orange PI? If so, can you do a video about it in the future?
Thank you
Been sing mine for 3 weeks or so and it's a great little board that looks to see great pick-up for both purchase and development in 2023. Whilst I too would have liked to have seen WiFi and Bluetooth, at the price being paid, less likely to be futured. You can get both using a USB adapter, so you can still use an NVME drive too. USB-C gives video out too, so dual monitor support is available. I suspect that down the line they may bring out a new model with wireless connectivity but the price will reflect this. Bearing in mind that it has been in users hands for less than a month, more devs are showing interest. Official support though is almost non existent. The M.2 screw thing is a real pain and Orange Pi should either redesign the holes or supply a screw as part of the purchase.
I've been watching this, is development for this promising? Or better to wait for a new iteration?
Any suggestions for a particular trouble-free model of WiFi&BT over USB dongle?
I'm still waiting to get mine, and will put it through it's paces, but from what I've heard and read, the utility of the NVME drive is fairly crippled by the PCI-E bandwidth. Such that it is only marginally better at best than any other media drive options.
If that IS true, then most people should just throw something else in there like the wifi/BT addon that is incoming, or do it themselves with a bridge to a supported wifi/BT card for their OS.
I know that's a downer, and it's worth testing to make sure, but everything on the spec sheet suggests that it's probably barely faster than any other storage solution.
I think realistically...this might be a bit of a hoodwink, as people will find that it's simply more useful to use the slot for wifi/BT. Since it will take some work and research to figure out how...people will just buy the upcoming wifi/BT M2 addon that Orange Pi will release.
Regardless...they kept the cost down on the board, and it's definitely impressive. I think the NVME slot is a dud though. It's essentially useless as a drive expansion, as it's limited at PCI-E 2. Most other media can support similar speeds. So, it's not a huge win. Then we get to what else we can put in there...and there just aren't very many options other than a wifi/BT adapter.
If anyone has a great idea, as to what the nvme port can be used for, please explain. It looks pretty bad on investigation though. I can't really wrap my head around this. If the chipset only supports PCI-E 2...why put an NVME port on it at all? Why pretend it is for anything other than the yet to be released add-on card?
@@czerro1 oh damn that is good to now. So the speeds should be similar to the USB3 ports with an external drive?
That brings me a sigh of relief then, a smaller dollar footprint for me :)
As for why the nvme, it was mostly trying to keep the physical size of the whole setup as small as possible. My plan was to 3D print a case for it, with a VESA mount adapter so I could mount it behind my TV and use it as an upgrarded smart TV + emulation station
@@czerro1 By "most other media" you mean USB or Ethernet attached media, i suppose? Because the microSD card is ten times slower, as demonstrated in the video.
during the reinstall of fydeos while trying to figure out dual booting I cant find my nvme any more on the gdisk /dev/nvme0n1 command says file not found now but it did work the first go around
Is anyone able to confirm if it's possible (or not) to quickly switch between booting from NVME drive and SD cards? (I don't want to flash my NVME drive with Armbian until I'm confident that I won't lose the ability to also quickly boot Android from SD card when I want to). Thanks.
I live in China, actually in shenzhen where the Orange PI is made. The price here is more than amazon. I am heading to USA to spend a few months with my grandchildren this summer I want to do a project with them during their summer vacation, so I will use the Orange pi 5. My 14 year old grandsons (twins) their dad has a 3d printer he makes cookie cutters. I will need to get the info to print the case, I tried to get on your site but it blocks people from China, I will download when I get back to the USA. Thank you for your video.
Solid deal.. Especially compared to what a pi4 is being scalped at on ebay.... Just ordered off of your links.
I don't have one, but I'm actually glad that the OPi5 does NOT have wifi. It's good to know that my device won't be making any unrequested connections with wireless networks around me. This is actually a compelling selling point for me.
Thanks Crosstalk Solutions for this great video.
I ve got a question. You show a small keyboard in video and you say it can also be used. But user reported to have problems with Bluetooth keybards on the Orange Pi 5 b, it does not work. Did the small keyboard work for you over Bluetooth?
Great !, bro … have you try esxi fling if works?
9:05
Alright, you earned a sub. Just because of that.
hi Chris. I was looking for your STL files in the blog post but I can't find them. They point to a .3mf files. My 3D printer doesnt read those files. Do you have the .STL files?
what if i want to boot from a sata SSD. How would the commands change? sorry, I'm lost when it comes to command lines
Excellent video, very useful! This is the board with SoC RK3588 with the best cost benefit today! How about testing retro emulation frontends like Batocera and JELOS on this board?
no issues as far as the installation goes, but when i write "sudo fdisk -l" I notice that my zram0 disk has an error
GPT PMBR size mismatch (8191 != 32767) will be corrected by write.
The backup GPT table is not on the end of the device.
and i tried entering "w" and writing and but when i list the disks again the error is still there.
Is this something i should be concerned with?
great video, thanks.
how cross compatible will a poe pi hat be do you think?
Can you suggest which SoB should i go for as I have to setup a private NAS software like openmediavault or ownCloud?
Thank you so much. Just using the nand-sata-install as I am used in a lot of different SBCs didn't work. Just reflashing the SPI as sugested on the internet, also didn't. But burning the image directly to the emmc module using dd finaly made it
If using op5+ for adding shared external storage connected to your isp GPON ONT optical fibre router usb 2.0 port do you connect to that storage on your ios device/android phone/laptop over the routers wifi?
Thx for the video. Can you mount smb shares (from a NAS) with the provided android firmware like you can an nvidea shield?
curious, why did you not use dd to copy the os image from the MicroSD to the M.2 ?
Once we can run Proxmox on the OPI5, memory will become very useful when running VM/LXC's. I have a 16GB version with an 2TB 2280 nvme. Edit; just noticed that someone has created an arm-based proxmox version.
Remember to use processor type native when your create a vm
Now if only we could convince "whoever owns VMware these days" to extend the arm fling 🤔
How do you log onto the rock pi 5 pro?
root and orangepi nor orangepi & orangepi work
Thanks,
Al
You're right, I even create a blog to fill the gap of lacking in the documentation.
Hello, thank you for this excellent tutorial! Question: after I flash the image to the nvme, it’s always empty and won’t boot. Why isn’t the dd command working?
That is an interesting and knowledge enhancing video. I have one question. My system is based on Raspbian OS, how to I shift to this OS?
Great video/ Do you have a video of how to set up an SBC like the Orange pi 4 or 5 as an email server?
Does anyone know which NVMe SSD form factor or model is compatible with the Orange Pi 5 Aliexpress acrylic case?
I used a NVME to usb dock and BalenaEtcher to directly flash Armbian desktop to a 128Gb NVME ssd and it worked too.
I use VNC to access headless servers with desktop OS. How do you set the screen resolution on a headless orangepi
I bought a micro usb cable and I can't plug it in? What power cable do you use and where do you plug it in?
3:12 True, however it's possible you could compensate for this by making a RAM disk. if you get say the 16gb or 32gb model you can have a script that copies some of your stuff from the micro SD into the RAM directly. In which case it should run faster than the SSD in theory, since RAM disk almost always beats SSD speeds. Whether that pans out in reality with the orange pi is a matter of trying it haha. Curious if anyone's done any sort of benchmark testing with this.
It seems I'll be sticking to the Orange Pi SBC for future projects. Such as the Orange Pi 64, the Orange Pi Macintosh, or even going as far as the Orange Pi Power Book. taking these vintage machines and bringing them all into the 21st century. I can tell you, these machines are going to turn some heads with the ability to play modern games.
Out of curiosity, what software do you plan to use? Do you compile your own versin of linux somehow or use orangepi:s software that never gets updated? Armbian?
@@marcusjohansson668 Well I"m thinking of using something similiar to Mac OS for the Apple Macintosh and Powerbook. as for the Commodore 64? I have no idea.
@@marcusjohansson668 Well what I mean is I think for the Apple computers something along the lines of maybe Morph OS? but yeah as for the C64, the idea would be to emulate not just the C64 it's self but run Modern games on something like Ubuntu and with Steam installed.
Where are the cameras and camera adapters for the Orange PI 5 BTB MIPI CSI2 connectors? The manual says it supports an OV13850 and OV13855 but does not say anything about connecting them.
Is it possible to install the orange pi android image to nvme via the same method? Unlike other OS it was a failure.
i have six orange pis that are now gathering dust, they used to be a homemade skyminer (nodes on skywire, which was the skycoin crypto project).. anyway im wondering wear i can find good info on putting them to better use now they are no longer being used on the skywire network ? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
I'm not seeing the number 7 option for SPI flash nor does the spi thing show up when trying to delete the partitions, currently on a orange pi 5 pro
Great video! Have you considered doing a video installing home assistant on an Orange pi 5?
I'll upvote this. I was going to ask the same question.
well you probably have many videos like that. this is not first orange pi and and home asistant or openhab will be instaled same way in any case
May I ask if the Orange Pi 5 support WiFi/Bluetooth Dongle, such as the one with rtl8811au chipset?
Would it be possible to create an image from my SD card Flash, the SSD with that?
I have some problem when take access the permision of GPIO. Since I need to run ros2 on this develop board, i can't use sudo to run my python script or cpp, i need to access to /dev/mem and those gpio in sys. But after I followed some solution that use chown to change owner that has the permission and reboot, all change in chmod and chgrp are reset. Has somebody meet the same problem and could you please give some hint to deal with it? Thx.
Could you use this as a CCTV hub , (And I dont mean stream the software from another PC) , can you use this to Handel a program like blue iris and let's say six 5mp CCTV (PoE) ?
Hey,
great video, but please don't flash the SPI. It is where U-boot is located, which makes it integral for this thing to boot. It's comparable to a UEFI BIOS. It should only be flashed when you either have to or need to update it! I'm not versed with the OrangePi but there was an option to set the bootenv and that's what you'll need to change. Also please use the "o" key in gdisk to create a new partition table, this will save you the deleting part... ;)
Great video !!! Thank you !!! But I have a question.... I have a lot of docker containers running on standard Ubuntu 22.04 on a raspberry pi with a SSD-hard drive attached for storage and I would like to migrate to the OrangePi 5 Plus. Is it possible to use the raspberry sd-card and just plug it into the OrangePi to get it get it up and running ? Thanks again...
I used a bolt and screw I had already, but you can use mounting tape. I like this board for a backup incase I need it to apply for a job and my main computer is broken. Great in the electric goes out and I need something that can run on a portable battery.
I did all your recommended. But putting the SD at the ORange Pi does not make him boot from it. It keeps booting from onboarding with Android SO. Can you advise?
Hi Thank you so much for the video
Not sure if u already have 3D printer video- could u please make one show which one to buy and how it works - which plastic- can it be in apartment?
DUDE!, you are my Fu****g HERO!
Hello, only thing I didn’t understand was you wiped the partitions from 16MB SPI flash storage, then recreated them with Orange pi config, how does this tell the flash “ We Want To Boot Off The NVME Now?” Thanks, Joe
Hi. T'hanks for the great review! Is It possibile to install libreelect on SD or Nvme?
Can you use dd to copy over the SD card to the M.2 SSD?
just test it, it's really good