Raspberry Pi 4 Alternatives: Five ARM Contenders

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
  • Low-cost ARM SBC review, including the Banana Pi M5, VIM1s, Odroid C4, Rock 3A, and the Orange Pi 5 4GB. All of these boards have their own, full ExplainingComputers review video as follows:
    Banana Pi 5:
    • Banana Pi M5: ARM SBC ...
    VIM1s:
    • Khadas VIM1s: Android ...
    Odroid C4:
    • Odroid C4
    Rock 3A:
    • Rock 3A: Dual M.2 ARM ...
    Orange Pi 5:
    • Orange Pi 5: Excellent...
    You can also find my interview with Eben Upton from December 2022 here:
    • Eben Upton Interview: ...
    And the Rock 5B review that I refer to here:
    • Rock 5B: Powerful RK35...
    Full specifications, software downloads and sales pages for the SBCs covered in this video are listed below. Please note that none of these are affiliate or sponsored links. But if you do want to support the channel, you can get some SBCs and accessories via the ExplainingComputers Amazon Storefront, from which I do earn a commission: www.amazon.com/shop/explainin...
    Banana Pi M5:
    www.banana-pi.org/web/index.p...
    www.aliexpress.com/store/1101...
    ameridroid.com/products/banan...
    wiki.banana-pi.org/Banana_Pi_...
    Khadas VIM1s:
    www.khadas.com/vim1s
    (Note that software can be downloaded and installed using the onboard OOWOW firmware -- so no website download pages are necessary).
    Odroid C4:
    www.odroid.co.uk/ODROID-C4
    ameridroid.com/products/odroi...
    wiki.odroid.com/odroid-c4/os_...
    Rock 3A:
    www.okdo.com/c/rock-shop/rock...
    www.okdo.com/software-hub/
    Orange Pi 5:
    www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare...
    www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
    More videos on SBCs and wider computing and related topics can be found at:
    / @explainingcomputers
    You may also like my ExplainingTheFuture channel at: / @explainingthefuture
    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:54 Banana Pi M5
    04:41 VIM1s
    07:57 Odroid C4
    11:28 Rock 3A
    16:35 Orange Pi 5
    19:23 Wrap
    #RaspberryPi #BananaPiM4 #VIM1s #OdroidC4 #Rock3A #OrangePi5 #explainingcomputers
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  • @Widgeon5113T
    @Widgeon5113T Год назад +163

    It would definitely be good to see a RPi Zero alternatives video. I would also be interested in a review of SBCs that might compare with what an RPi 5 might look like today if development hadn't stalled in recent years.

    • @josephchamness9915
      @josephchamness9915 Год назад +3

      But is there any for the same price as the pi Zero 1.3?

    • @rickhunt3183
      @rickhunt3183 Год назад +1

      I may be wrong but I see the RPI Zero wallowing on its death bed. With the low cost availability of the PI Pico with wifi. I believe it to be superfluous for control applications. I can see using it if the application requires low quality video, but if that were the case I'd use the esp32 with cam and an adapter board to give me usb connectivity. If they would sell those boards for 4 dollars. I would buy a lot of them and use them every chance I got.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 8 месяцев назад

      @@rickhunt3183I would say zero 2 has some life, it's got some oomph for the cheap price.

  • @jimlynch9390
    @jimlynch9390 Год назад +94

    I just wonder why they continue to include GPUs on these boards but never seem to provide software to use them. Thanks for the great review as usual.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Год назад +50

      They don't include GPUs as such -- they include an SoC which has a GPU, then don't have the resources to sort a driver . . .

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks Год назад +19

      In the case of Orange Pi 5, they do actually include the drivers. The problem is actually the Chromium installation. If you grab the Snap of Chromium and run it with the command line parameters for web GL acceleration, you'll find that it performs quite well.

    • @jimlynch9390
      @jimlynch9390 Год назад +7

      I learned a lot. Thanks everyone.

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 Год назад

      ​@@ExplainingComputers have you tried the zimaboard ?

    • @douggale5962
      @douggale5962 Год назад +3

      Chip manufacturers are obsessed with secrecy. They are so nuts about not letting anyone see programmer level information, they would rather not sell any, so they can keep it completely secret.

  • @patriot0971
    @patriot0971 Год назад +202

    I think community support is more important for a SBC platform than raw compute power. Most of my compute projects in this space can be performed by my original PI and PI2 . I am exited though that there are multiple options available.

    • @tugfngjfuvj
      @tugfngjfuvj Год назад +12

      That is also my own experience. The most powerful SBC is not very useful if you need to spend too much time getting the software to run on it. Then you can just buy a cheap x86 box and run any standard linux distro on it without any problems.
      I myself own two Bananapi M5, but the issue is that it is not clear if upstream uboot has the necessary changes to boot with it, and if the OS is on sdcard you can not reboot because the sdcard is not recognized after a reboot (it needs to be switched off and on to recognize it again). It could probably be solved in uboot but it simply isn't. And Raspbian has the same problems, plus some more that have to do with the graphics driver. You simply do not get a desktop on it after rebooting, last time I tried it (couple weeks ago). The Android distro that is provided for the Bananapi M5 is very old and I failed to get the play store and others on it, so it is not as easy as it could be.

    • @Inject0r
      @Inject0r Год назад +6

      I think community support only goes so far. Bottom line, as long as there are drivers (and acceleration) available for those devices, supported OSes will definitely work properly, and won’t be any different compared to any Raspberry Pi. When it comes to additional hardware, there could be an issue. But when it comes to software, there shouldn’t be any issues, as it’s all the same.

    • @tugfngjfuvj
      @tugfngjfuvj Год назад +1

      @@Inject0r The issue is that the manufacturers put basically no effort into maintenance so unless you have a fully working toolchain and sources you can not build or upgrade the OS. That is the common problem. For the Bananapi M5 for example, the original sources are just a zip with no git history, so the version is unknown. It's unknown what the changes on top of the original software and the reason and the connection between them are so you can't just apply the changes on top of new releases of the original open source project. You basically have to reverse engineer the differences to figure out what they are for exactly and if the problem was solved upstream already. And that is really, really time consuming. Or you don't do that, but then you're stuck at an ancient kernel with most likely no newer software. So you can't have an up to date chromium or firefox. Or even any newer release of any software due to the dependencies. The dependencies also extend to the kernel through userspace components like modprobe and others. Yes, they should just be compatible, but some package always has a dependency on some kernel version, and then you're stuck there. And by extension you're stuck on old software everywhere then.

    • @henson2k
      @henson2k Год назад +12

      I concur, primary use case for Pi is headless server, not desktop replacement. There are better ways to watch RUclips.

    • @Robert08010
      @Robert08010 Год назад +2

      Well then you should build a benchmark app for community support. Piece of cake, right? Teasing, but you do have a good point.

  • @richcurtin9540
    @richcurtin9540 Год назад +43

    Great video, thanks. It’s so good to see alternatives available and improving. The last 2 years has shown how important it is to have more than one option for makers, students, start ups and design engineers

  • @RAZR_Channel
    @RAZR_Channel Год назад +4

    Well done Sir... you are nearly to 1 Million Subs...
    Maybe your not a Pop ICON....
    But you are Clear and Precise in everything you do...
    This is appreciated by Senior Level people...
    I look forward to Congratulating you when you exceed 1 Million...

  • @FlagstaffslowTV
    @FlagstaffslowTV Год назад +15

    Thank you for making this video. I need to move on from Pi because I just can't find them and will not pay crazy Amazon mark-ups. There are many good alternatives, but they need larger communities to become anything like the Pi. It has to start somewhere.

  • @christiancabrera9495
    @christiancabrera9495 11 месяцев назад

    I just love your reviews. Makes it easier for us enthusiasts to decide for the right SCB for our projects.

  • @jls9225
    @jls9225 Год назад +2

    Have a good rest of your weekend Christopher. Love your top 5s. As Always, Be Smart and Stay Safe.

  • @alanthornton3530
    @alanthornton3530 Год назад +18

    Hardware acceleration still seems to be the issue with SBC's, maybe one day it'll get sorted out! I'm looking forward to the Reborn OS video. Thanks Chris for another interesting Sunday video :)

  • @lesliedeana5142
    @lesliedeana5142 Год назад +23

    Always a wonderful, unbiased comparison across the board. (Pun Intended.) Can't wait to see other SBC's, especially posting their availability!

  • @MrMesospheric
    @MrMesospheric Год назад +1

    Always the best SBC reviews. Thanks!

  • @Kw1161
    @Kw1161 Год назад +1

    Chris looks like the Orange Pi for me, Thanks for another informative Sunday video. Have a nice week!

  • @El_Croc
    @El_Croc Год назад +36

    Thanks for this follow-up. You'd think that the ARM foundation themselves would step in at this point to force/ensure availability of drivers and documentation for all chips that use their licences. Crazy situation that I'm sure I am not alone in being put-off taking the plunge with these boards and similarly poorly-supported ARM hardware.
    A shame.

  • @sbc_tinkerer
    @sbc_tinkerer Год назад +1

    Blessed Sunday all! Great job as always sir. Nice to see some SBC manufacturers are getting better at sodftware support. Until next time... happy Explaining Computers!

  • @dioneto6855
    @dioneto6855 Год назад +1

    holy cow! i was looking for rasp pi 4 alternatives yesterday. Thanks for the video Chris.

  • @Dbean48
    @Dbean48 Год назад +1

    Enjoy your commentary on the Raspberry pi boards and alternative boards and extended capabilities, as the video stream consist frames and loss of frames .. very good clip.. sending it on to my friends as adapt or more so than I..Keep them coming , they at least keep me up to date on what is available for medium to modest prices for on board performance..

  • @TheDarkelvenangel
    @TheDarkelvenangel Год назад +36

    I still love Raspberry Pi I was lucky enough to get my last one before demand out stripped supply. One thing not touched on was community support behind these alternatives, Raspberry Pi has a strong community behind it. When choosing an alternative the availability of help is just as important as price in my mind. I think so of these alternatives are well worth a look. Something many comments say about price in regards to Raspberry Pi board if you get them from the authorized sellers you pay the best prices, third parties sell for more to line their own pockets.

    • @SlartiMarvinbartfast
      @SlartiMarvinbartfast Год назад +5

      Well said, both the community and the support are incredibly important. Without either of those you'll end up with a poor choice of product.

    • @steelplasma256
      @steelplasma256 Год назад +2

      I disagree. Support is only useful to those who use it. It's far better to understand the problem on your own and learn something than it is to blindly follow someone else's advice without understanding what you are doing.
      That being said, if you can't figure out on your own, then having a good community as a safety net is preferable but should never be your requirement.

    • @XrayTheMyth23
      @XrayTheMyth23 9 месяцев назад

      @@steelplasma256 how can you understand something without documentation or someone more knowledgeable? are you going to spend all your time tinkering?

  • @highlander723
    @highlander723 Год назад +5

    This is a great video I gave up on raspberry pi a long time ago I refuse to pay scalper prices and it seems like the foundation is not doing squat to prevent scalpers so the hell with them. Right now on Amazon a raspberry pi 4 8 GB is going for $194. If the foundation is not going to do anything about it and it push comes to shove and I have to pay that kind of money I might as well get something that'll blow the raspberry pi 4 out of the water with better capabilities and possibly more memory.

  • @kurtweber162
    @kurtweber162 Год назад +1

    Thanks again, as always well done. Keep up the good work I learn a great deal from your productions.

  • @richarddade7050
    @richarddade7050 Год назад +1

    Very interesting comparisons , please keep the good work up !

  • @AMDRADEONRUBY
    @AMDRADEONRUBY Год назад +1

    Ah Good old Sunday mean new video! I love raspberry pi alternative videos you are the best! Have a nice week

  • @dang48
    @dang48 Год назад +1

    As always, great video and comparing the alternatives with the sample video is very useful. Definitely gives us an idea of what's available and what would be ideal for our various needs.
    And yes, please we would like to see a follow up video for the alternatives for the raspberry pi 0.
    Thank you, and hoping to see you again, very soon.

  • @dougr.8653
    @dougr.8653 Год назад +5

    Orange pi is really a good contender in the SBC market. Maybe I will give it a try for my next project. I am not a big fan of built-in Wi-Fi. I rather buy a dongle. Thanks for the video. A nice Sunday to all.

  • @sidneyking11
    @sidneyking11 Год назад +1

    The video is very helpful. I would love to seen another follow up on this topic. Thank you

  • @devinhedge
    @devinhedge Год назад +1

    Great video. I appreciate how much time it takes to produce it. Thank you!

  • @chvasdek
    @chvasdek Год назад +1

    Please another alternatives video. Thank you for the always interesting and informative content!

  • @techman2471
    @techman2471 Год назад +10

    Thank you for the RasPi alternative update. It's good to know there is much progress with these SBCs to run Linux distros efficiently. Please do the Pi Zero alterantive video!

  • @Razor_Burn
    @Razor_Burn Год назад

    Thanks for the video Chris as its great to see software support moving along for the alternatives and I would love to see a RPi Zero alternatives video. Greetings from Australia.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Год назад +2

    Lots of channels review mid-high end computers.
    But you are - imo - the champion of the little guy/gal.
    As exemplified with videos like this.
    And I - for one - really, appreciate it.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Год назад +1

      And I appreciate your kind feedback. Thanks. :)

    • @McRocket
      @McRocket Год назад +1

      @@ExplainingComputers 😊☮

  • @MichelMorinMontreal
    @MichelMorinMontreal Год назад +5

    "Patience is a virtue..." It is interesting to see the software evolution of some SBCs after a few months; some are thus positioning themselves as real alternatives to the beloved Raspberry Pi (sadly!). I would like to highlight your comment: "An SBC made by Apple"... Great and terribly appropriate! Excellent presentation!

  • @realharo
    @realharo Год назад +45

    I recently got an Odroid C4, and was surprised how well and effortlessly Armbian works on it (much better than the official images). Hardware acceleration out of the box with the Panfrost driver, decent performance, no issues whatsoever. I have further plans for it as a Pi replacement, so will see how far the compatibility goes when it comes to some 3rd party hardware with its own drivers (I am able to make some adjustments if necessary).

    • @sepposyXIV
      @sepposyXIV Год назад +2

      I've had C4 as a NAS box for three years. Two 4 TB and one 8TB USB disks pooled with btrfs. Works nice on some version of Armbian. Official image coredumped with btrfs.

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly Год назад +9

      Armbian is the only OS I use on OrangePi as well. Works extremely much better than the buggy OEM os.

    • @Darkk6969
      @Darkk6969 Год назад +1

      I am using Odroid C4 as a NAS to store my backups running Dietpi. Been solid for me.

    • @davidunwin7868
      @davidunwin7868 Год назад

      Also got a C4 back in 2020 for a NAS and really like it. It's been retired for the moment as it's now replaced by a Synology NAS, but I'll find a use for it again.

  • @nialldaly7108
    @nialldaly7108 Год назад

    Onl;y got to see this late on Tuesday Night, Buisyyyyy!!!!. Gread informative as usual. Thanks Chris. I would have tought the RS manufactured board whoud have been better softeare supported also. Great insite. Thanks again.

  • @deanbaker7080
    @deanbaker7080 Год назад +2

    Great video Chris! As you suggested towards the end of the video, I would very much like to see a comparison of the Raspberry Pi Zero competitors. Thank you for continuing to make interesting content. 😁

  • @gloiloidn5752
    @gloiloidn5752 Год назад +1

    It's good to see some alternative options for a Raspberry Pi. Great video!

  • @Praxibetel-Ix
    @Praxibetel-Ix Год назад +34

    Lots of good Raspberry Pi alternatives to choose from! It's quite a shame about the Rock 3A's software support though. Out of all the SBCs on this list, I quite like the Orange Pi 5 the most. Here's hoping for a Pi Zero alternatives video!

    • @altgreen817
      @altgreen817 Год назад +4

      Yes, mr. Pls do it! I looking alternatives raspberry zero from half year. But i want SBC with good software support. I want build small linux terminal with some python builder so I can make some code on the way.
      PLS PLS PLS PLS DO IT for MR.Scissors

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Год назад +3

      Thanks for your support. :) I hope that you are doing OK.

    • @Praxibetel-Ix
      @Praxibetel-Ix Год назад +4

      @@ExplainingComputers Hi! I'm doing alright. I watched today's video with a very good cat. I hope you're doing okay yourself, I got a bit worried for a moment!

  • @richardnaish5100
    @richardnaish5100 Год назад +1

    Excellent as always... and yes a Pi Zero alternatives video would be marvellous. Thanks.

  • @dfs-comedy
    @dfs-comedy Год назад +2

    "A bit like an SBC made by Apple..." Haha, I laughed out loud at that.

  • @jsanpe35
    @jsanpe35 Год назад +3

    A pi zero alternatives video is a really great idea! Looking forward to that

  • @srtcsb
    @srtcsb Год назад +1

    I didn't know there were Pi Zero alternatives (except of the microcontroller ilk). Please do add it to your list of future content. Thanks for another great video Chris. 🙂

  • @PS_Tube
    @PS_Tube Год назад +5

    These pi alternatives have become the need of the moment since now the original raspberry Pi have become hard to get in many places. And these alternatives are easily available in stock.
    Interesting video.

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love Год назад

      Competition is a great thing. They'll drop the prices of these Pi devices to much more realistic and acceptable levels when there is competition.

  • @eherlitz
    @eherlitz Год назад

    Thank you for the excellent reviews. What I would like to see more of from the reviewers and educators on youtube is SBCs that don't focus on desktop usage but instead the "SBC-server-segment" (headless stuff), e.g. SBC devices that can run more high-end applications and services like docker and similar.

  • @andrewcarrillo4814
    @andrewcarrillo4814 Год назад +1

    thorough and to the point. Liked and subscribed. Excellent work sir!

  • @LeftoverBeefcake
    @LeftoverBeefcake Год назад +6

    This is excellent, since many people tend to just review items and never look at them again. It's important to see if things have improved since the initial review, since an item may look good initially, but the manufacturer might have failed to support/update the device or a community might not have adopted it.

  • @advantagehiphop
    @advantagehiphop Год назад +4

    Hey Christopher! I love the SBC content. I was using the ODRoid C4 for the last two years to host my docker based homelab. It did all of the compute for my Plex, VaultWarden PW Manager Server, NectCloud, etc... All the data was stored on my ODRoid Hc1 and HC2 NAS Servers with OMV6.
    At the time my Pi 4 4GB was giving me some power issues, and x265 files worked better through plex on the C4. I'm a big fan of the HardKernel boards.
    I'd love to see a refresh of the HC1 and HC2 form factors.

  • @brunospfc8511
    @brunospfc8511 Год назад +2

    Excelent video, thank's, as a Brazilian Developer i'm always looking at those boards on Aliexpress, but i cant...loose to much money testing, thanks !

  • @M3di3valG
    @M3di3valG Год назад +1

    Exactly what I was looking for. SBCs in the same price bracket as an RPI4. Thanks Chris :)

  • @RisteSekuloski
    @RisteSekuloski Год назад +1

    Great video, thanks! Seeing a video about Pi Zero alternatives is also a good idea!

  • @avejst
    @avejst Год назад +1

    Great walkthrough of the possible alternative to RP

  • @HermanAnimation
    @HermanAnimation Год назад

    I really like this approach of reviewing the state of the software after a few years since the device has been released. The software has usually been a sore spot for a lot of these boards and checking if things have improved since launch is invaluable!

  • @dffabryr
    @dffabryr Год назад +1

    Thanks for the excelllent review Chris !!

  • @dpwaaw
    @dpwaaw Год назад +1

    Great video! I can't wait for the video on the distro with hardware acceleration (orange Pi 5 reborn OS)

  • @martinsmith5028
    @martinsmith5028 Год назад +2

    Hi Chrise. Great idea to compare available hardware against each other and I hope the RPi availability improves much quicker than anticipated. For me, I'd like to see a comparison of RPi4 projects that can be (reasonably) reproduced on SBCs that are currently in production. e.g. a PiNAS on something other than a RPi4. I'm sure there are other projects too

  • @horseradishpower9947
    @horseradishpower9947 Год назад +2

    A very useful, and much needed video. Thanks for making this.

  • @rutkowskir
    @rutkowskir Год назад +7

    Many of us today don't realize we are living in a SBC "Utopia" where just about all versions/models are compatible with each other. We can also load various flavors of Operating Systems and the hardware is cheap and the software if FREE!
    Remember the days in the late 1970's and early 1980's, when nothing was compatible like Commodore, TRS-80, Apple, IBM, Sinclair, etc... and you had to pay for everything. Thanks Chris! -Rich

  • @KameraShy
    @KameraShy Год назад +1

    Happiness is digging through my parts box and finding a Raspberry Pi 4 that I had forgotten about.

  •  Год назад +5

    Thanks for the video! Those crazy prices made me drop all SBCs in favour of thin clients, like HP t620/t630, which also happen to have a serial port, which I use more often than GPIO.

  • @RoboNuggie
    @RoboNuggie Год назад +4

    "It's a bit like an SBC made by Apple" - oomph :-)
    I know there are many factors affecting computing right now, but if the Raspberry Pi people don't get their act together, they will lose their crown, and it may be hard for them to get it back....Time & Tide wait for no man (or Pi)
    I for one would like to see alternatives for Raspberry Pi Picos..... 🙂

  • @cataelectron
    @cataelectron Год назад +2

    Great video! I think the fact that the supply of rpi4 went to big business instead of enthusiasts may have helped the sbc phenomenon in the long run. It gave the other competitors in this space more breathing room, both in the form of a growing user base and in the form of greater profit margins. I hope they use this gains to improve their products.

  • @m8hackr60
    @m8hackr60 Год назад +4

    I really enjoy these round-up videos. Things just change so quickly. Knowing what is still usable and relevant is invaluable information.
    For example, I have RPi B rev 2's that, while grossly underpowered, are still relevant today. On the other hand, my VIA APC that came with FirefoxOS is, while working, almost useless outside of a conversation piece.
    It would be great to see the same round-up for the RPi Zero form factor.
    As usual, great content, Chris! Cheers.

  • @greyline3051
    @greyline3051 Год назад +1

    Informative video especially the update on the M5 software getting better. I'd also like to see pi zero 2 alternatives.

  • @CCoburn3
    @CCoburn3 Год назад +8

    You recently reviewed a mini-PC that was in the same price range as these boards. It seems that the mini-computer beat every one of these ARM-based systems hands-down -- including the Raspberry Pi 4. And you will soon be showing us that you can add GIPO pins to the mini-PC at a low price. So the days of the ARM-based SBC for anything that doesn't actually require the SBC form factor are approaching an end. I think the next generation of SBCs will be RISC-V boards.

  • @EmmEff3168
    @EmmEff3168 Год назад +2

    Great and timely video!
    Another one is needed comparing sub-200$US boards like the Rock 5B. My main needs require better I/O than the RPi4 'standard', like say GigE, PCIv3/NVMe, USB4/TBolt, etc. You get the drift ....

    • @EmmEff3168
      @EmmEff3168 Год назад +1

      Forgot to add, 'RPi5' boards won't be here anytime soon!

  • @marcse7en
    @marcse7en Год назад +1

    I watched your recent video about a Mini PC. I'm in the market for a new computer, as none of my computers are Windows 11 compatible. Not being ready to go full Linux, I was looking at two Windows 11 Mini PC's on Amazon; a Beelink Ryzen at around £343, and a Beelink Celeron N at just £159. Thinking the Ryzen was overkill for general purpose computing, I bought the Celeron (2.9 GHz, 8 GB Ram, 128 GB M.2 SATA3 SSD) ... My Beelink is being delivered on Tuesday, and Mr. Scissors and Stanley The Knife are very excited! ... Love the channel!

  • @bradw256
    @bradw256 Год назад +2

    Thanks for all the good info. Yes, I'd love to find a good alternative to a RPi-zero. I'm trying to get a BeagleBone Black to work for a project, and I'd love some alternatives. Great content!

  • @perrymcclusky4695
    @perrymcclusky4695 Год назад +1

    I for one would like to see a follow-up video on Raspberry Pi Zero alternatives. Enjoyed this video and look forward to you next one!

  • @timmersoft
    @timmersoft Год назад +17

    Great video! Its nice to see some alternatives that are in stock. it is unfortunate how all the Pi and Pi alternatives have increased in price so much. The cheap cost was one of the great features of these boards. I hope the prices will drop back down at some point.

    • @russellm7530
      @russellm7530 Год назад

      Yeah it's like they're reflecting the prices of real fruit and other foods being intentionally destroyed with the purposeful burning down of many food factories, supply chain problems etc jacking up food costs.

  • @KennethTanFotografie
    @KennethTanFotografie Год назад +28

    Great video Chris. Keeping us up-to-date on the what-to-do's.
    If I may make a suggestion:
    I've been buying second hand I5 4-6th gen small FF PC's, They cost 50-75 euro and are extremely complete, only lacking the GPIO and being obviously larger and use a bit more power. My second batch were i7 4th gen and I'm going to use them for multiple VM's per machine.
    I'd love to see a video about that subject and the discussion afterwards.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Год назад +15

      I do intend to make a video along the lines you suggest.

    • @timnowak8573
      @timnowak8573 Год назад +3

      Yeh, nice topic to discuss. I will add from myself that there are small thin computers, such as terminal pc. I believe that they are good raspberry pi substitutes. For example, I recently used the HP T620 Plus. And it is useful in various projects ( retro computer for playing old games, and old consoles :).

    • @alanthornton3530
      @alanthornton3530 Год назад +3

      @@ExplainingComputers I'd be really interested in a video about that as well :)

    • @alanthornton3530
      @alanthornton3530 Год назад +2

      I've been looking at getting a 2nd hand SFF PC for quite a while prices seem a bit higher in the UK at around £130 or more. I'd want to use them either for VM's or a Proxmox server :)

  • @lesliedeana5142
    @lesliedeana5142 Год назад +10

    Hardware without software = Paperweights!

    • @Henry-sv3wv
      @Henry-sv3wv Год назад +4

      You can write the software yourself. You just need to take the daughter of the CEO hostage to get the documentation for the proprietary hardware.

  • @patricktierney3269
    @patricktierney3269 Год назад +2

    Yes, a video on Raspberry Pi Zero alternatives would be great. I would also like to see a video on multithreaded programming for robotics, allowing independent features like sirens, beepers, sequenced LEDs and maybe audio clips which can be controlled manually.

  • @jauntyfox
    @jauntyfox Год назад +3

    Great video as always, thank you. Wonderful channel

  • @idowebwork
    @idowebwork Год назад +1

    Yes to a Pi Zero alternatives video. Definitely some good alternatives to a Raspberry Pi, which if you can find one is going to cost you a bit more than it should since the factory supply isn't there.

  • @charlesspringer4709
    @charlesspringer4709 Год назад +1

    Very nice. I am surprised by all the S905 boards. Companies like FriendlyARM/FriendlyELEC moved on from S905 a couple years ago. They are all Rockchip and Allwinner now. But after seeing the very nice distro support you have shown for S905, I'm going to dig out a couple NanoPi K2 I have and load them up with the Debian or Ubuntu and use them for portable Jupyter Lab and some instrumentation projects. Thanks!

  • @nicholsliwilson
    @nicholsliwilson Год назад

    Usefull video, @ExplainingComputers thanks. What I’d really like to see is a Compute Module 4 alternatives video?

  • @purposepowerlove
    @purposepowerlove Год назад +1

    Great video! Thanks for sharing.

  • @viarr824
    @viarr824 Год назад +3

    I have an OdroidC4 and OrangePi5.
    The C4 works great as an ondemand-mediaplayer via CoreElec/Kodi on SD-Card for 4K-HDR10 videos using the onboard-Infrared to control it and switch it on&off. This combined with a Debian test-Server on the eMMC-module accessible via the multiboot platform Petitboot.
    The OPi5 will be used for various heavier full-time server-functions. Despite the cut-down PCI-E the NVMe drive still offers a major speed upgrade compared to SD/eMMC. I'm still testing a lot of things. Armbian works great on it.

  • @bcastroalves
    @bcastroalves Год назад +2

    Great video! I'm looking for a new, more powerful SBC to replace my old Raspiberry Pi3 B. The first alternative would be RPi 4, but the prices and lack of availability made me postpone the purchase. I really liked what was said about the Banana Pi M5, maybe i'll end up acquiring it. I would like a video with the alternatives to the Raspberry Pi Zero.

  • @DocuFlow
    @DocuFlow Год назад +2

    Great follow up analysis, thank you. Is it possible to add a 3d acceleration test as well to test in future videos?

  • @PeterGagen
    @PeterGagen Год назад +1

    I too would love to see an RPi Zero alternatives video. It would be nice to see a summery chart to your comparisons at the end of the video. Thanks.

  • @JayavindaJayavinda
    @JayavindaJayavinda Год назад +1

    I would like to see an investigation into what is the most powerful and effective SBC regardless of price.
    Love your channel.

  • @kk0dj
    @kk0dj Год назад +1

    Thank you Christopher for an honest assessment!

  • @jrnovosel
    @jrnovosel Год назад +2

    Competition is a good thing. It's good to see improvement in some of these. The Rock 3A looks great and will be very attractive once they get the software side worked out. I like the idea of a socket for WiFi cards so you can put the one you want or none at all. Maybe Raspberry Pi should look into that idea (and NVME SSD slot too)

  • @willgilliam9053
    @willgilliam9053 Год назад +1

    def like the check in on software support

  • @YanFei-zi7mm
    @YanFei-zi7mm Год назад +1

    Great Update!

  • @nearby.forest
    @nearby.forest Год назад +2

    Stats for nerds are accessed in a separate Settings tab in the RUclips app itself instead of being in the video player.

  • @AverageMichaelJordans
    @AverageMichaelJordans Год назад +1

    Oh nice, I was looking at exactly this yesterday

  • @helloimatapir
    @helloimatapir Год назад +2

    Competition is good! Lots of great alternatives.
    If I wanted an SBC for a server or even a desktop, I'd pick either the Orange Pi or Banana Pi.

  • @jena_thornwyrd
    @jena_thornwyrd Год назад +1

    Hi, yes, I'd like to see an equivalent video about Rpi Zero alternatives please ! Excellent video, as usual ! :)

  • @urielemmanuelpelaezhernandez39

    Another interesting Review of PCB cards.
    🙂👍

  • @robertsretrogaming
    @robertsretrogaming Год назад +1

    Great idea for a video, and very useful for enthusiasts like me, thanks!

  • @somecuntxxx
    @somecuntxxx Год назад +1

    Manufacturer chilling and watching video:
    *Chris pulls out their single-board computer first*
    Manufacturer begins shaking profusely

  • @williamrutter3619
    @williamrutter3619 Год назад +5

    First i want to say this was a good video. Its not good away from a raspberry pi, my orange pi 5 crashed all the time, there wasnt a single distro that worked well, for any prolonged period, video play back was bad, maybe it didnt like add block. I did have a nanopi r6s it was a bit better, but still had driver issues, no wifi even with usb, so i sold it, a little device needs to be portable. I have a nanopi m4 that seems to work well, 1080p video is fine, it has out lasted my raspberry pi 4 that have all died with hdmi issues. I do hope a new raspberry pi will arrive soon, as alternatives are not great maybe low end intel or amd pcs, its very easy to be invested well over a hundred pounds and at that point mini pcs or even laptops really do come in to it.

  • @Aplysia
    @Aplysia Год назад

    Sad about the rock 3a. I guess that's what we get to look forward to on the rock 5b. 🙄 Thanks for revisiting these. There's always videos saying software support is not quite there yet, but we rarely get to see how is going a year later.

  • @MaggieKeizai
    @MaggieKeizai Год назад +2

    I'd LOVE a video about rpi zero alternatives. I'm always finding uses for them and I don't have any more!

  • @vortexen3976
    @vortexen3976 Год назад +1

    ok I saw an opi 5 on the thumbnail and just wanted to say it is awesome. I preordered in november and it came in feburary but it is totally worth the wait and is super high performance

  • @nils-erikolsson3539
    @nils-erikolsson3539 Год назад +1

    Yes a follow-up would be good 👍🙏

  • @maacpiash
    @maacpiash Год назад +3

    Halfway through the video, I'm sensing a pattern here. None of these boards have any A72 or A76 cores or more than 4 GB memory. These are not quite as powerful as a Raspberry Pi 4B.
    (Finished the video. Orange Pi 5 was a pleasant exception.)

  • @DaisyHollowBooks
    @DaisyHollowBooks Год назад +1

    Given the lack of Pi availability, I’m interested in alternatives. I enjoyed this video. I would appreciate a video on Pi Zero alternatives, please.

  • @dazryan3463
    @dazryan3463 Год назад +15

    I have had 4 Raspberry Pi Zero W boards running as security cameras using motionEye OS over the past roughly 9 years. One is actually still working though refuses to write captured images to the SD at this point. The other 3 died when the PAM2306 chip overheated on each. I also tried 3 ESP32CAM modules and a M5CAM with varying degrees of failure. A roundup review of small cards with camera and wifi would be most appreciated

    • @rv6amark
      @rv6amark Год назад +2

      I had the same experience with my 4 Pi Zero W cams. I just took them all down and will be investigating to see what failed. I had guessed that the SD cards gave up, but it appears your experience indicates that may not be the case. Thanks for posting this.

    • @lumpython5351
      @lumpython5351 Год назад

      I have a brand new zero brought ages ago that I totally forgot, recently I got time to play around it and OMG, it barely can do anything, it is way too slow to handle even simple stuff, I even didn't use the lastest Linux I installed Jessie it still slow without any GUI, I also found out it is very easy cause kernel panic, like download files. I really can't think any usage of this.

  •  Год назад +1

    Thanks for an Interesting review. If I got it right so are there no SBC with ARM v9 based SoC out yet or can I get a pointer to where to get one? Dietpi is a good option for Raspberry Pi but for most other I prefer Armbian and the server optimized system.

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 Год назад +1

    Thanks for wading through all the numbers and feature lists, Chris,. Research hours/second of screen time must have been quite considerable.
    If you overlaid Venn diagrams of the features of these boards, it would have a rather fuzzy boundary. At prices like these, adding a 5-cent component or not is a major decision for the maker.
    If you have a specific application in mind, it's a matter of identifying the necessary combination of features, and then picking from the subset that best fits. E.g. for some, absence of WiFi might be bug, for others a feature. A lot of data and/or fast access would bias towards NVME slots and at least one fast Ethernet port. 2GB memory is getting pretty marginal with today's software. Unless you're going to deploy thousands of units. the price difference between 2 and 4 could be eaten up in hassles quite quickly.