A White Man's Lament for the Death of God's Beloved
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Words and music by Andrew Peterson. Audio by Asher Peterson. Video by Dawson Freeman.
I was walking down on Broadway
In a multitude of marchers on parade
There was anger, there was passion,
There was mercy, there was peace yet to be made
And the masks that we were wearing
Kept the virus in control, or so they say
And there was sickness in the air, and to be fair,
It was the grief and all the grievances that plague
The many years, and cause the tears on every face
There are things I've done that need to be forgiven
But I’m still learning how to ask
Because the virus in my veins has been contained
By this inherited mask
And I’d rather be exposed to what is killing
Than to hide from what’s to blame
So let me lift my voice on Broadway,
Let me lift my brother’s cross,
Let me mourn for what it cost,
And feel the magnitude of loss
In every name
George, Breonna, Ahmaud
All beloved of God
And there’s more, so many more,
But there’s just no way to say every single name
And there’s anguish, so much anguish to be sure
Inside the killers of the slain
‘Cause if you’ve done somebody wrong
It’s like a song you can’t just banish from your head
It’ll eat you when you’re sleeping, like a wolf that you’ve been keeping by your bed
And those names are gonna haunt you
Till you lie down in the grave and say goodbye
And on the resurrection morn you’ll see the form
Of Jesus blazing in the sky
And then you’ll know how much he loved
The ones who suffered
Whose blood was crying from the ground
And you’ll reckon with the truth
That even they and even you
Were so much dearer than you knew,
So tell me what then will you do
When the ones you never knew
come back around:
George, Breonna, Ahmaud
All beloved of God
And I shouldn’t be surprised that when the lies
Come out of hiding there’s a fire
‘Cause when every hope was dashed
Into the ashes of that funeral pyre
There was a spark of truth unsmothered
Till the mighty wind uncovered and relit
So let us lay down on the altar every sin
That we pretend we don’t commit
Till this world has been refined,
oh, let us share the bread and wine
And pass the peace
Till every soul has been remembered
Every stony heart is tendered
Every all has been surrendered
Every noble cause is rendered obsolete
And I believe that there’s a reckoning in store
And all the poor and the oppressed
Will be the first who were the last
And all the lost and all the cursed will be the blessed
So let this kingdom of the least
Spread the table for the feast and light the flame
Let us send the invitation,
Every tribe and every nation,
There’s no corner of creation
That is safe from this salvation
It is rolling down the mountain
Like the water from a fountain
It is breaking on the beaches
From the deep and distant reaches
Of the seas, and all the gleaners
Are the proclamation bringers
And the dancers are the answers
To the questions of the singers
And we’ll shout that we were wrong
We had it coming all along
And then the mercies of the Lord
Will be the chords to every song
And all the glories of the king
Will be the melodies we sing
And all these marchers on parade
Are making ready for that day
And it begins as I repent
And bow my head as I lament this broken world
‘Cause every victim, every villain
Was a precious little boy or little girl
This is me and this is you
This is the truth, if you believe it or not
You have always been beloved
They have always been beloved
George, Breonna, Ahmaud
All beloved of God
Andrew Peterson, you are a gift to the world. Thank you for your courage in writing this song that challenges us all and brings us together. May God come quickly and heal all our wounds.
No Andrew is not a gift, nor any man a gift to the world. Only Jesus. Period. Can we stop with putting people on pedestals already? And stop singing songs about men, and instead praise our God and speak only about the gift of Jesus to spare us from hell?
It's just so hollywood. SOOO western and American to have this pageantry.
@@echoechoecho7142 All I mean by "gift to the world" is that the Lord has used him to speak truth to the world. Obviously Jesus is the truest and best gift, but I hope we can all be his hands and feet, and I see Andrew Peterson as one example of doing this😃
I just came across this song again. It’s as beautiful, heartbreaking and redeeming as ever.
“And I shouldn’t be surprised that when the lies
Come out of hiding there’s a fire
‘Cause when every hope was dashed
Into the ashes of that funeral pyre
There was a spark of truth unsmothered…”
Like how the left wingers like Andrew and the media lied about "mostly peaceful protests" and that there were 1000s of innocent people beaten, scores murdered, dog's killed, lives ruined forever, 4-5 billion in damages, peope suffering from PTSD to this very day?
Yeah, the truth was revealed wasn't it and we finally got to see who these people were
and what they want to do to all of us.
I’ve met Andrew Peterson. He is not Woke & he would respond that we are all GOD’s beloved but all don’t accept HIM but HIS arms are out stretched still like the father of the prodigal son.
His song is very woke and his website is woke but you met him so I guess he is not.
This is kind. God bless your compassion. May he take divisions from ALL of our hearts as the body of Christ.
Andrew first heard you sing at Union college in Nebraska. Your anointed music brings my soul closer to Jesus & opens the door to the gentle Holy Spirit. Thank you, I hope to meet you in the Kingdom where we will sing praises together, to our Beloved Savior!
Your music so often sings my heart and influences my ministry. Thank you for all of it, but especially for this.
"By this will all people know you are my disciples: if you have love for one another." Thank you for this expression of the love of God.
Andrew, from this big fan of yours this side of the world, who's a Christian and an observing follower of what's going on in the U.S, this song is NOT IT.
Unless you've ever owned a slave or the black people you're lamenting about have ever been slaves, "WHITE-guilt" won't cut it. Personal or collective. It is non-biblical. (If that's what you were going for in writing and recording this song).
Grace and Peace from Kampala,UGANDA
I really appreciate the lament over the loss of people who are God's children regardless of the politics behind it. I think we can all agree it's sad when lives are lost even if there's dispute about why the loss happened or if it's part of a pattern. What is your view of the issue? I think it's helpful to know what insights Christians from other parts of the world have on the subject since they might not be knee deep in the same debates that we are.
Thank you! And hello from the U.S!!!!
Amen, not the gospel. It's the social Judaizer false gospel. Also a big fan of Mr. Peterson...
@@kaitlynrunion4192 All mankind has intrinsic value just by fact that we bear the image of God.
When Christians get on the train of pandering to the culture around us in ignorance of the statistical facts in that same culture, then it boogles my mind.
I am this black outsider looking in who has for many years said that Black-Americans thrive on the victimhood-mentality. Little wonder that I now watch many American black conservatives affirming my long held view.
What has happened to black-Americans in the past and recently is something to be grieved about. But let's not put their victimhood on such a pedestal which is in total negligence of 100%-approved statistical data evidencing that they are not systemically oppressed as they continually claim. Plus we can't deny the Politics behind what we see happening in American cities currently.
I'm sure if I was living in the U.S I would be an "uncle Tom" to the black community.
Our only Hope is the Gospel in this fallen-world with all it's unfair systems. Things will never get better this side of heaven. That's why we live our lives with a Pilgrim mindset! Yes we may weep with those who weep, but not in direct contradiction to the word of God. There's a time to weep and a time to consider TRUTH & Reality with the lenses of Scripture which many on the BLM movement have def. failed to understand.
Thank you so much for sharing the truth in love so clearly❤. Please keep sharing these truths. People need to get free.
I've loved your writing in books and music. This may be the best and bravest thing you've written. Folks will question your motives, theology, and faith but to grieve and mourn senseless loss of life shows a heart of love, compassion, and brokenness over the state of this world.
@SelfAccountable i think you misunderstand on several points.
first, please don't assume that one who laments the loss of lives (innocent or otherwise) taken by police or vigilantes is unbothered by abortion or murder. those concerns are not mutually exclusive.
second, no single organization owns the hashtag nor the statement "black lives matter". in fact, the three points you gave as values of "the organization 'Black Lives Matter'" are actually from two separate organizations, each with their own platforms. point 1 is from "black lives matter foundation, inc." (blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/), whereas points 2 and 3 are among the many demands of "movement for black lives" (m4bl.org). both are prominent voices in the conversation, but neither speaks for all protesters. please do not assume that participation in the "black lives matter" movement equates to unquestioned support of any single organization. one can support the black community in its current state of grief while not fully embracing the tenets of specific groups.
third, as to your claims re: blm's "anti-Christian, anti-Church, anti-Family, anti-American values", i would recommend that you do some research before applying those labels to a group's viewpoints. specifically, look into (1) the actual platforms of these groups, what their specific demands or goals actually are, and whey they are making them, (2) the war on drugs and its effects on black americans, (3) the difference between socialism, communism, social democracy, and democratic socialism, and (4) what the bible actually says about money, justice, and the poor.
these groups do not claim to approach things from a christian perspective, but that does not make them anti-christian or anti-church - it makes them secular.
the supposedly "anti-family" statement actually reads in full: "disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable." if you are defining family as one mom, one dad, their own kid(s), and no responsibility from or for anyone else, i can see how you could possibly mistake this as anti-family. but before you tell me that this is family as the bible defines it, consider luke 2:41-45. also, to make the leap from community responsibility to state ownership of children and (gasp!) communism is, quite frankly, ludicrous.
there is nothing inherently bibilical about capitalism (or democracy, for that matter). in fact, the bible has a lot to say about the worship of money and wealth. socialism, on the other hand, while counter to christianity in its philosophy, does share some biblical principles when it comes to redistribution of wealth (see matt 19:21, luke 12:33, and acts 2:44-45). socialist ideas are anti-american only to the extent that america defines itself as a capitalist nation. last i checked, the constitution said nothing about that.
you make a lot of unfounded assumptions in an attempt to shame someone who is simply trying to mourn with those who mourn (see romans 12:15 and i cor 12:26). please live up to your username and take some time to question your own motives, theology, and faith.
@SelfAccountable i appreciate your efforts to bring light to some of the organizations involved in the blm movement. i agree that one should look closely at the groups that one supports. however, as i said earlier, the blm movement is NOT synonymous with any one group or its platform. and there is SIGNIFICANT doubt that the vast majority of marchers or blm supporters are trying to overthrow the government.
i realize that this may sound harsh, but it seems that you do not understand because you are refusing to listen. i would suggest that (1) you read my comment again, because you clearly did not take my meaning, and, more importantly, (2) you find a person that you know and love that thinks differently from you, and sit down with them. spend some time in conversation, with the intent to listen, setting your preconceived notions aside.
as a stranger on the internet, i do not expect mine to be a strong voice in your life. but i'd be willing to bet that you know someone in real life who believes that black lives matter. i'll go further and say you probably know someone who believes that black lives matter, who knows and believes the bible, and who is also against abortion. if you don't understand how someone can be a christian and be behind black lives matter, reach out to that person and ask them. it will likely be an uncomfortable conversation, and you will probably walk away not agreeing on everything, but it might help you understand.
thank you for taking the time to engage. thank you for wanting to hold fast to biblical principles. you're not entirely wrong, but please also make room for grace and humility.
@SelfAccountable
She is very confused. They are very supportive of the transgender movement also.
And as you stated ...BLM organization is 100%
Anti God
Anti Family
Anti Police
They are supported by the Democrat party. Who have destroyed our black communities with abortion clinics.
No Christians can vote for such anti God candidates.
Absolutely!
Y'all remember when Job repented for a sin he didn't commit? I don't. He didn't. Don't do it. His friends told him he must be wicked in secret, but Job knew he was right with God. Don't bow to those who blame you for something you haven't done. If you want to mourn something, mourn that the church has failed to bring forth believers who walk in righteousness. Don't mourn for being White or American... the way God made you.
Yes, we mourn for injustice and loss of senseless and/or preventable loss of life. But that happens across this fallen world wherever we go... the only reason you know these specific names is ONLY because their deaths are being used to manipulate people in to repentance for things they did not do for political reasons. I don't think that's right.
A tragedy should not be used to perpetuate, yes perpetuate, racism by taking justified and unjustified uses of forces to make a problem of bias where one does not clearly exist. To invent systemic racism, rather than confront individual instances of racism. To cause the law to favor one race over another when the law is meant to be applied without prejudice. Why? To raise money for political campaigns. I'd get it if they wanted to address the issues facing low-income families in urban and rural America and even the problems often found specifically within the black urban culture... but those issues do not cause the same kind of sensational public outrage (despite claiming hundreds more lives) and will not raise as much money. Those problems are not primarily caused by police nor are they problems necessarily faced by every black person (I am employed by successful black people TYVM) nor do those issues ONLY affect black people (Y'all ever seen a single white mother addicted to drugs?). But the movement is full of hypocrisy because they do not want to address things that would help make black lives better (particularly in poor inner-city areas), the movement is largely comprised of rich, guilt-ridden white liberals who only want to use the movement to burn America down and build a communist, anti-Christian state instead. Just look at CHAZ if you don't believe me. Even on the less extreme side of the movement, it's still being used to cause division between races, to defund our police, to create chaos. And a LOT of black people DON'T approve of this whole narrative about racially motivated brutality anyway.
We are called to love our neighbor, regardless of race, but the movement that is marching is NOT marching for justice, but for revenge, which belongs to the Lord. This is a movement that marches against unity and peace, against law and order, tearing apart our communities and killing their neighbors and burning stores. If America is working correctly as our laws dictate, cops, criminals, and anyone else of any race or creed who does wrong should and will get justice... not revenge by a mob. The anger of men does not accomplish the will of God, so I don't go out and riot everytime an innocent or less-than-innocent person gets killed wrongfully because I know that does not solve the past nor fix the future, nor does it accomplish justice.
Sorry if you think that makes me somehow racist, but I know that I am not. ANd I have to say, I am disappointed in so many well-meaning, misguided Christians.
2 things.
1. America isn’t working correctly, both intentional and unintentional racism is prominent in policing, and bringing awareness to the issue is the point of 90% of the protests happening.
2. “How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”
Luke 6:42 NIV
I’m not calling you a racist, I’m saying America was built on bias against tons of people, and we all still have biases today. I have them and you have them, whether you believe it or not. Everyone has a plank they need to remove from their eye.
@@lisemagic208
America was not built solely on slavery. Which, by the way, is something EVERY country has had. We HAD it, yes. But many founding fathers abhorred it. We were built on the principles and ideals and God-given rights enumerated in the Constitution and then we fought a war to end slavery to further uphold the constitutional rights for ALL. America has always worked to improve on it's problems and has primarily been a champion of human rights. And we've done so because of our Constitution, our typically Judeo-Christian values, and through peaceful assembly and legislation where needed. And that's not to say we're perfect. We DO have problems, but it's interesting how the ones that are put to the forefront are the ones that can push a VERY specific narrative.
If we care about justice, we should be caring about justice for EVERYONE, not creating lynch mobs everytime a black man gets shot resisting arrest because it's assumed to be an act of racism ("Hands up don't shoot" is a lie and forensic shows it). If we care about ending racism, we should work on building a culture of respect for each other and the law and focuses on improving cop-citizen relations to end violence instead of making trouble. If we care about the loss of innocent life, we should be rioting over the millions of unborn lives of all races, but statistically most noticeably black babies, lost to abortion or the gang violence in our cities. If we care about the system, we shouldn't be burning down businesses, often minority-owned, and hurting many lower-middle class Americans who worked hard their whole life, did the right thing and stayed out of trouble, etc. We should be voting out corrupt politicians and making America better with our choices--by helping and loving our neighbors and taking personal responsibility--not by scrapping it all to create a "summer of love" in CHAZtopiastan.
The organization doesn't care about ALL those black lives lost in CHAZ or the lives of black cops. Why isn't David Dorn or Patrick Underwood, two dead black cops part of this song? They were decent men defending innocent people and they were *killed* by these "righteous" people. The only time blm actually believes it's name is when they find a story they can use to act like America is systematically hunting down black people when we aren't.
If we want to ensure our cops are good cops, we need to be supporting them and holding them accountable, not vilifying all of them because of the few and threatening to attack them when most are just trying to do their job. Most cops try to bear the sword for good, therefore we should not fear them unless we are doing wrong.
We can agree America isn't working correctly, but that's where we talk about how to fix it. Not make it worse. Which is what some people, primarily those with a Marxist, radically leftist agenda trying to supersede the process of justice with violent threats like "If you don't give us wat we want, we'll burn it down." So if we want America to work right we need to UPHOLD the laws.
You articulated this so much better than I was able to.
I'm a person if color and I've been listening to you for almost 2 years. This is healing.
It doesn't matter your color. Technically everyone is of color.
I echo your sentiment
@@tyson_3301 haha wow if you're of that opinion you don't need to be here because you will never get it. And don't reply with all lives matter when you know specific lives have a history of being treated as if they don't. You need to ask God to reveal his heart for all of his children. You need to revisit parts of Exodus... Have you not read about Tzipporah? Please educate yourself. God created us with color. Please go learn about melanocytes, take an anatomy class or something. Bye.
@@kailynembrack9110 We will never get making skin color an idol, or a single racial slur on the same level as God's name? I will never get that, it's really sad to see the social gospel has trickled into this man's theology, "Remember Me" was a great song, all about Jesus. The Bible DECLARES we are all of one blood, science has proven this because all women upon the earth share mitochondrial DNA with a common female ancestor nicknamed "Mitochondrial Eve" and all men on the earth share Y-chromosomal DNA with a common male ancestor nicknamed "Y-chromosomal Adam" -- these nicknames are what the scientific community use, lol... The social gospel is a false gospel, we cannot serve two masters, I hope you guys wake up before it's too late. Fix our eyes on JESUS the AUTHOR and FINISHER of our FAITH.
@@kailynembrack9110 Daughter until you find your identity in Jesus and not in your skin color you will be held in bondage to it. Be free in the blood of Jesus. Your sister in Him
Being a contemplative song writer that Andrew is, I could imagine the amount of thought and ruminations that would have gone behind, before the germination of this song. Let us respect the writer/singer for expression of his creative freedom and in 'identifying' himself with 1 side of the equation...(2 cents from a non-white, non-black, brown man from India)! God bless Andrew and all who r visiting this thread..."this too shall pass"...
Some of the comments on this video prove the necessity of it. Thank you for your vulnerability, Andrew.
Does that include the comment from the Ugandan? Or is your experience as an American “supreme” to hers?
Please Lord he humanity and bring us to Unity through YOU JESUS!!!
Amen Andrew, AMEN!
We are all part of Jesus's flock...
ONE RACE, MANY COLORS!
🙄 More Christians who wanted to be so relieved of their OWN guilt that they turned to blindly blaming one side and not asking the other side to take accountability when some of those individuals are directly responsible for their fate.
So Beautiful! thank you Andrew. i join in the repent...
As a song of grief and lament, lets sing along to every word. As Christians, though, please keep in mind that Social Justice as a secular movement isnt interested in anyones repentance and certainly not redemption. The White Man can repent all he wants, but as a parallel to Marxs economic injustice, racial injustice is based on one group having property (white skin) that another group does not, so that "racial injustice" is systemic even if no one is personally a "racist". Andrew sings about "peace yet to be made".... that peace cannot even in princple be made, according to SJ, because White/Black results in an unequal power distribution that is oppressive by definition (and therefore unjust). Theres no way out -- its a hall of mirrors with no exit. The lyrics actually echo this: "Those names are gonna haunt you til you lie down in the grave and say goodbye ." Your sin, in other words, will always remain, til the day you die! No repentance , no forgivenenss, no redemption -- all these crucial elements of biblical Christianity are impossible in the world of secular Social Justice. Think about it -- Redemption is, ultimately, unwanted by the SJ movement, because where "redemption" is possible, "revolution" is unneccessary, and THAT is the endgame.
So sing along to this beautiful song, but keep all this in mind. And if you listen to just one preacher on SJ, may I suggest Voddie Baucham.
This is beautiful, and is a beautiful expression of the heart of God. Thank you. This is truly a gift. Lament is so necessary. Thank you for expressing this well.
You know the Lord Mr. Peterson. Thank you for expressing what many of us feel. The right song at the right time.
Let us lay down on this altar every sin that we pretend we don't commit... Amen! Thanks so much for this!
Thank you Andrew. Your songs unswervingly make me think and give me hope. I appreciate you putting poetry to this, beyond the bumper sticker catch phrases. It's difficult, but I thank you for your bravery and honesty.
Parts of this song are beautiful and other parts have me scratching my head...I will withhold any comment on the title. The elephant in the room is I’m not a racist and you’re not a racist. Yes, there is racism, but confessing sins you don’t own seems like pandering to me and I refuse to go along with this demand from the world to prove otherwise. I do think we need to have a better understanding of where there truly is oppression and injustice, but we need wisdom in all this because there are many out there using this division for their own gain (politicians, etc). I know your intentions are good...I am a fan, and I’m sorry to say it, but felt this needed to be said. ❤️
Perhaps there are sins of racism for which Andrew is personally repenting.
Why did the psalmists lament sins they did not commit?
We all own sin, whether we want to acknowledge or not. If we all own humility, many a tragedy could be avoid; and there would be more contentment and a great more deal of peacefulness.
Leslie and Elizabeth Jones, That is a good question we all should have an answer for. I believe
there is corporate prayer we pray and confess to God for our sins and the sins in the world around us because we are grieved along with God. It’s very different from confessing to others (not God) for sins we didn’t commit...then It feels like a lie. It would be a like teetotaler going to an AA meeting confessing their binge drinking. It’s just disingenuous and doesn’t help the ones they say they are trying to help. I’m sure there is a better way to say it, but a bit late for my brain at the moment. ❤️
Leslie Jones, I just thought of another example that came mind. It seems right to pray and say ”Lord, forgive US for the sin of racism in our world and heal our land...it seems wrong to let’s say post a status update that says you are sorry for your own racism if you actually aren’t and really do believe all men/women are created equal. I’m just trying to wrap my head around how forcing people to apologize for something they didn’t do or believe translates into real help for our brothers and sisters in Christ. I believe it’s a flat out lie, sorry to be so blunt, and even christians are buying into it. ❤️
@@marcymay5714 I don't see where in the lyrics A.P. is "forcing people to apologize for something they didn't do." That seems to be reading something into it that isn't there. I'm wondering if it's possible that we, as white Christians, could have taken more steps to prevent racial discrimination and injustice in our spheres of influence? Perhaps he is also repenting of personal instances of racism? Maybe he excluded someone of another race or did not speak up when someone was using disparaging language against a person of color in his presence. Even if that's not the case and A.P. believes there should be corporate repentance for these instances of racial injustice happening on our watch, it makes me think of the horror of child abuse. Although I have never abused a child, I have grieved and expressed a kind of corporate sorrow that we, mankind, have not done enough to protect children from harm. Does that make sense?
I've followed Andrew's faith and his music from the beginning of knowing the Lord. His poetic songs coupled with the truth of God's Word have been such an encouragement to me, encouraging me to trust the Lord further and more deeply.
When he put out "Is He Worthy" a commenter made a very discouraging remark. It obviously led Andrew to post over it and formally apologize. Though there was no evidence of any wrongdoing. The comment was in a paraphrase "how can I show this song to my black friends when the music video only has white people in it?" This ungodly and unbiblical statement really upset Andrew.
Fast forward to today, he's put out a song claiming these three black men and women (along with others) are God's beloved. The fact of the matter is we do not know they were. There is a window of opportunity to surrender to the Lordship of Jesus Christ. When that has past, you cross the line from God's mercy, to His wrath. Now I do not know those three people mentioned personally. I do see some things from some of their lives that do not reflect they ever knew the Lord intimately. We can't judge wether someone is saved or not. We can only judge the fruit of their lives. Good trees produce good fruit. Bad trees produce bad fruit. From the two men mentioned, the fruit of their lives, did not reflect that they were saved. The fruit of the Spirit Was lacking in the way Ahmed and George Floyd left this world. Does that mean they are lost? I don't know. I just know Christians ought not live like they did. They died in rebellion. Observe the lies George told.
Am I commending those who took their lives? No. The officer shouldn't have behaved the way he did with his knee.
Keep in mind this truth "Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated" that was written in Malachi 1:2-3.
The Lord God does is not eternally patient with lost people. Everyone is given a window of opportunity to accept or reject Him.
Nothing about Ahmed or George reflected anything other than wasted lives lived alienated from the life of God.
Read Psalms 1:4 "The ungodly are like the chaff which the wind drives away "
Are their saved people that live ungodly? Yes. I have to often lived, as Peterson would say "carried my cross into the dens of the wicked, and blended in just fine"
But the Lord knows those who are His and let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity. And, don't lay hands on hastily, lest you share in another's sins.
I don't want to be quick to mourn someone who wasted their life. Honoring drug addicts, and men who abandoned their children, and remained in that state of doing those kinds of things, is not what christians should do.
I think Andrew is wrong here. He's been "carried along" with error.
It is brazenly clear from Scripture that all lives matter and that obviously entails black people. The gospel hasn't changed.
We're to tell people to repent of their wickedness and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Approving of this wicked movement of BLM and partaking in their blatantly anti-God protests is not what Christians ought to be doing. We're to test all things by God's Word. His Word says we're not to be carried away with the ever changing winds of deceptive doctrines. You cannot be a part of a movement that outright opposes the Lord and be for Him. James 4:4 "whoever wants to be a friend of the world makes themselves hostile to God"
Promoting and joining in with the lies of this movement is setting yourself against God.
And out of love for my Lord who bought me with His blood, I cannot join in with you here Andrew. It is heartbreaking to see someone I looked up to be caught up in this. But I know we can't trust men can we? We're just so prone to wander.
That's why we have to remain humble and keep our heads at the Lord's feet.
I'll continue to pray for you Andrew.
In sincere love,
doulos, david
Do you mean to say that they are not beloved of God?
You should go back and listen to his song "Come, Lord Jesus". His heart hasn't changed; his message hasn't changed.
@@p.johnson7655 What I'm saying is this; The Lord is not eternally patient with the lost. We know He clearly has displayed His extreme love by publicly crushing His Son for the whole world's sins. But even though He paid for the sins of the world, His sacrifice is not imputed on those who refuse to repent and reject Him as Lord. Romans 3:22 says "Even the Righteousness of God, through faith of Jesus Christ, too all and on all who believe" The Righteousness He extends to "whosoever will" is only applied to those who "do" place their faith in Christ, by repenting of their sins and surrendering their lives to Christ as Lord. The life lived by Esau was a rebel to the very end. As were so many others in the Scriptures.
Their is a line that lies on every path. That unseen boundary that separates His mercy from His wrath. I see nothing in the legacies left behind by these people that points to anything other than lives lived in rebellion. If they were Christians like the Corinthians who were killed (by the Lord) for their refusal to repent, they must be seen as shameful examples, not good ones. The lived lives so unholy, there is no fruit that points to them knowing Him.
I don't know where they are in eternity. They are where they are, and that ain't changing. But the lesson us living should take from their lives is not that they positive role models. Especially not from a Christian perspective. Paul told us to look for good examples in Philippians 3, and follow them. Then he spoke of those who were enemies of the cross of Christ, their end was destruction, and they gloried in what was actually shameful. Based on what is clearly told to us, we Christian ought not honor rebellion or those who lives their lives in rebellion. And we definitely should to obscure Christ by saying George Floyd is what it looks like to obey the gospel. By doing that, you trick people into hell thinking "I see the way he lived his life. I'm not high out of my mind lying. I'm not that different." Or "i'm not that bad". If Christ came into your life and no change took place, He did not save you. If any person is in Christ they are a new creation. Does mean we're perfect? Far from it. But there by necessity has to be a changed life.
Floyd's life ended with him lying and disobeying the Lord. I see nothing in his life that shows anything other than he died the way he lived. We have wonderful insight to see the very last moments of his life. They in no way display any fruit of the Spirit. Not one.
The lesson the living ought to take to heart is this: Do not live the way he did. And do not honor him for living that way. Call a spade a spade. Judge according to truth, not emotions. Do not be a partaker with those who esteem Floyd and others like him.
Does that clarify what I was trying to say?
@@dank9828 His heart hasn't changed. As Peter's motivation to prevent the Lord from going to Jerusalem was out of good, Andrew's motive (I assume) is good. But we know he was at war with God's Will because that was not truth or true. Andrew knows that for something to be good Christian art/music, it has to pass three tests; Is it good, is it beautiful, and is it true. His song not based in truth nor does it point to the truth. Suppresses the truth. Therefore it ought to be rejected. Truth is the chief quality. And shamefully, this songs lacks truth.
His message has changed in that it seeks to vindicate (some) fabricated wrongs. It's racial gnosticism to claim all these people died due to racism without the evidence to back that claim up. Christians are supposed to judge according to truth. That means in harmony with truth. Some of these claims made in the song and about some of the people, are outright lies. We don't need to wait to make an informed decision on what motived Derrick to put his knee on Floyd's neck. The video leading up to him being on the ground showed not even a shred of evidence that Derrick wanted to kill floyd, or even further, hated him because he was black. The evidence of an apple tree is the apples. If you watch the cordial, respectful way Derrick treated Floyd, you cannot come to the conclusion that he was racist. That's evil imputing motivation like that against all evidence. This song of Andrew's justifies these lies and encourages them by approving of them and going along with them.
I don't want my brother Andrew to join in with them and share in their sins as the Revelation says "Come out from among them My people!" I want my beloved brother to be obedient to the truth. And I know he knows it because of the immense amount of Scripture included in his songs.
@@davidjones1240 I heartily disagree that this song lacks truth. I wish you well.
Thank you for helping us find words to express our sadness and desire to heal. I appreciate your courage and honesty. Some will criticize, but real poets speak truth even when painful. Your authenticity is why I listen to your music.
Even if aspects were wrong in ways unknown to him, the song remains an honest and beautiful expression of his heart with much love and truth. It has been pointed out that Jesus was without sin despite being a male in a patriarchal culture, which suggests accusations of complicity can be overreach.
Fantastic song. I'm still confused by two questions I have.
What are you specifically repenting of? Just general sin? Not loving neighbor?
Secondly: Do you believe in universal salvation or are you just hoping for the best for those 3 folk you mentioned by name?
I'm legitimately curious and not trying to stir anything up.
My questions as well. The music is beautiful, the lyrics are confusing.
The link for Gregory Porter’s song, Take me to the Alley was what I thought of when I received Andrews song this morning. For me, it was a gift 🙏, and a reminder of why Take me to the Alley touched me equally in the deep ness when I heard it. The greatest of these is ...Love 🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸❤️🦅 we’ve been hurting each other in so many ways, it’s become an art. 😭😢🙏🙏🙏
Obviously I'm not Andrew Peterson, but if you are referring to his lines about the three people seeing their killers post-resurrection, here is my guess for what he meant: in many Christian circles, it's a relatively accepted idea that, when Jesus returns, everybody (Christian and non-Christian) will be resurrected from the dead. Non-Christians will then face their judgement, and Christians will live eternally in resurrected bodies with Jesus on the renewed earth. He's probably referring to that. But that's just my two cents.
Whether or not these people accepted God's salvation, they were dearly beloved by God - so much so that he sent his son to die for them, and for all of us.
Aidan Boyer Yes, but if they were not regenerate God also hates their sin enough to send them to hell. God loves but he is holy, holy, holy and just.
help us Lord to be people of peace who value and cherish life!
What are you referencing with the phrases 'virus in my veins' and 'inherited mask'?
Basically he's hating the fact that he's white... cause that's what we do now. We have no control over the color of skin we have but if your white your told everything is your fault. The mask and virus are his skin color.
“Being white is bad” :p
@@stlouislord28 That's what he seemed to be suggesting by those two phrases.
How unfortunate because his arrangements are beautiful, but I cannot listen to his music anymore due to what seems to be a flawed view regarding race.
The "virus in my veins" is the Sin we "inherited" from Adam. The "inherited mask" may be a reference to the Mask we ALL wear in front of others so they don't see our shame/guilt/Sinful fallen nature.
I don’t know if Andrew Peterson will read this, but if he does, I hope he sees the absurdity of the movement that begins with B, has an L in it, and ends with M (from henceforth they shall be referred to as BL--M), the sin behind white guilt and asking for reparations and apologies for things committed by our ancestors.
Let’s start by stating the obvious, either the channel has certain words censored or YT is removing anything associated with any criticism of you know what. I am forced to choose my phrasing and wording carefully. I love Andrew Peterson, have been blessed by his music for years, and I genuinely believe he is a brother in the Lord who has seriously fallen into doctrinal error and sin here.
Full disclosure: I *hate* the BL-M movement and organization. Their mission statement is appalling and grossly anti-Christian and anti-family. They are not concerned at all about America as a country, and they’re certainly not concerned about _real_ justice. They hate America and have fully adopted the Karl M. ideology (trying to avoid censorship here) and are in full support of abortion. I cannot in good conscience support them.
That being said, of course black lives matter - they’re made in the image of God. I hardly know anyone who even thinks black people are inferior and I live in the South - particularly central Louisiana. But the systemic racist narrative today that is being pushed on everyone is based on single witness accounts, black prejudice, lies, Marxist ideology (class warfare), conspiracies, etc.
Here are some facts:
Black on black crime is not only high, its much higher than any percentage of crime committed by any ethnic group in America according to the FBI reports put out every year. Chicago, New York, Minneapolis, etc. just these past few days and the weekend have been bloodier than anything done by white cops or cops in general THIS year alone. More white people AND cops are killed by black people every year than vice versa. You won't hear that in the media though.
The narrative that blacks are being hunted by cops, white cops, and white people is veritably false. The uproar should be over the community killing each other and the abortion clinics targeting black communities, but that’s not the narrative. Instead, white folk are told they have to bend the knee and apologize for something they didn’t do. They have to bear the guilt of their fathers and forefathers (Ezekiel 18 has word on that), and ironically plead and pay their indulgences to climb out of their white guilt graciously given to them by a large part of the black community, when the said black community has ancestors that not only sold their own people, but are _still_ enslaving their own people on the continent. Have I stepped on any toes? Good.
The white guilt argument is a giant slippery slope. Let’s not forget our ancestor Adam who sinned and caused all humanity to fall. Anyone want to apologize to me for his sin? How come the gays and trans aren’t apologizing to me? The Jews? The Greeks? Any and every Gentile alive today? Do you see how absurd that is? How could I possibly hold anyone accountable for their ancestor’s sin? Every person in history is _not_ without sin (except Christ) - black, white, Asian, Indian, Native, Polynesian, Arabian, Jew, etc.
So, my dear brothers and sisters, you have drunk the Kool-Aid brought to you by Satan himself if you buy into this false narrative. Paul, John, Jude, James, and of course, Jesus Christ Himself warns in Scripture the world is not be trusted and will hate you when you dissent against its will. The world wants you to buy the BL-M narrative. You’d be a bigot if you didn’t. “Did God really say?” is the lie that wraps our minds when we hear the rancor. Delilah wept and said Samson didn’t love her. Samson's vulnerability to Delilah's lie is what lead him to his fall, but grace be to God, God used him to kill Israel's enemies one last time to protect and save His people.
In conclusion: White guilt is a myth. BLs only seem to matter when a white cop takes them. Black babies are lawfully murdered every day. And the organization that is supposedly all about BLs are rioting and looting black business owners, taking our cities, killing cops (including black ones), and destroying our country. These people have zero reason to riot, protest, or blame white people for something that did not happen to them against people who had nothing to do with it. Worst and most hypocritical of all, any black person who dissents against them, is cast down and hated.
I am appalled that you have jumped the shark, Andrew, and I pray you’ll repent of this nonsense. May the Lord humble you and teach you His precepts according to His Word, His Spirit, and the finished work of Christ you’ve sang about before. Love you and I pray these words not only reach you, but everyone here in the comments.
I agree 100%
Thank you for taking the time to post this. I hope many of the comment readers see it!
Thank you for this. So many don’t see it.
How can you disagree with any of Andrew's song, here? All Beloved of God. The magnitude of loss we feel in this broken, broken world. How can you not lament, and long for the coming of glory with eagerness?
You don't need to repent for the sins of your ancestors, nobody does. But how about acknowledging that those sins may have had a very real shaping of the society and culture of today? You can't say that today is completely unshaped by yesterday. That is ludicrous. OF COURSE slavery and our country's history have a lasting impact. There's no way that doesn't. Neglecting injustice, however, that is what I know I need to repent of. My guilt is not inherent because I'm white... it's inherent because I am human, born as a selfish creature that in today's world, defaults to ignoring the pain of my brothers and sisters in un-Christlike satisfaction with the status quo.
Sure, the world may say I'm guilty because I'm white. That's not what Jesus says and I don't think that's what Andrew is saying. But that doesn't mean I'm not guilty... nobody is exempt, regardless of color. We are all less than perfect. We have all failed justice. We could all do better. We all need to rely on the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross to redeem our broken souls and rise to a closer picture of heaven, of every tribe, tongue, and nation crying out in unison.
So what are you going to be louder about? The semantics of what makes you guilty, or the brokenness of our world and its need to be redeemed?
@@calebjoy8979 Good grief, this reply is dreadful.
Not only have you made a presumptuous, outlandish assertion about me, you’ve gone on with everything I’ve already rebuked AP for. The _entire premise_ of this song is based on a lie. Everything that I have said is crystal clear. Ignoring the injustices is shorthand for paying for the injustice. There’s no argument to convince me otherwise.
It's simply not accounting for grace.
The semantics you speak of are what keeps people from believing in heresy that leads to the justification for pet sins. The semantics, or shall we say doctrine, is designed to protect and guide the Bride into wisdom and discerning the Scriptures from the lies of Satan. Therefore, doctrine keeps people’s hearts toward Christ so that we _can_ lament over the brokenness in this world and long for the coming glory.
So
, yes, to answer your question, I am in fact lamenting over the brokenness of our nation, but not for the same reasons you or Peterson do apparently. Please reconsider your response and look at what is happening to the church.
This is such a pretty song, great lyrics, great meaning😊❤❤😊
This is a very good song. It's well worded and I think it is helpful. Thank you for writing this song and for your work as a musician. Your songs a often encouraging to me or make me think.
I listened to the song and was both moved and uplifted. Then I read some of the self-righteous comments on here and felt dejected again. Thank you, Andrew, for the first part of the experience, it is a great and powerful song from the heart.
i want to say something meaningful...here...but i think it was all said already in the lyrics...ty...this is beyond wonderful
Fantastic song, gonna share on Facebook...thank you so much!
Praise the Lord for a heartfelt Christ-following example of how to respond to the pain all around us. Thank you, Mr. Peterson!
@Daughter of Enoch or maybe he did and couldn't find the right way to express it. Complicated world events are hard to boil down into a 5-minute song and no matter how you approach it, you're bound to offend or hurt someone who sees things differently. As someone who's tried to write songs in response to events far away from me that express my pain and sorrow, but also the hope and love found in Christ, it's hard to find that balance and not sound pandering. When something happens far away, it's easy to compartmentalize it, but when it's in "our backyard" (like the forest fires currently raging in Oregon causing my friends to evacuate their homes), it suddenly becomes painfully personal. And, frankly, causes me to feel guilt for not being more upset when other people suffer the same pain. I can only assume, that like me, Mr. Peterson has cried tears and prayed prayers for those in other countries suffering injustice, but it doesn't always manifest itself in a song that's shared with the world. For whatever reason the Holy Spirit prompted him to write this and I, for one, am grateful for a heart that's willing to share their pain openly.
Andy,
You are a good and caring Christian and all who die are the Children of God. However, as an an EEO attorney from a family who were EEO before the Civil Rights act of 64, I can tell you that your song lyrics reflect a naivate and a lack of factual knowledge and a basic ignorance of what Antifa and BLM represent and intend for your Christian principles. This gives aid and comfort to those who resist religion entirely and do not understand and do not care for those who hurt, please tell me what it is you repent and how that relates to the "repentance" please research the actual conduct of those whom you have singled out. There are bystanders far more worthy of this effort. I love your music and messages, I pray you will accept this criticism as the faithful wounds of a friend.
With respect to your understanding regarding the threat of Marxism and intersectionality in our culture at large and the fact that millions of born again Christians have died under the raised fist of Marxism/Communism, I'm pressed to point out that "all who die" are not the Children of God, we are all Imagebearers of God and He desires that non should perish, however we can only be Children of God by believing on Jesus Christ as plainly outlined in John 1:1-14 and many other places in Scripture. Thank you for standing up for the supremacy and singular Truth of the Christian worldview. Love in Christ Jesus.
Do a search for "HORROR: White Female Student in Critical Condition with Brain Injury After Being Beaten by black Mob Near St. Louis High School (VIDEO)"
Andrew are you going to write her song (this is happening almost daily in this country to white poeple) or do you only sing about criminals who fought the law?
Wonderful song and lyrics!!! God Bless!
Terrible song. Terrible lyrics, terrible meaning. So sad to see how low he has fallen
@@tyson_3301 Why do you say that?
Mr Peterson - you are, by far, my favorite Christian artist. Our family listens to your music all the time and your wingfeather series is our boys favorite. Your songs have been a huge blessing to me as a father and husband.
However, I must say, this song is at best, terribly imprecise from a theological perspective.
Thank you Andrew for putting into words a prayer for these times. Where you live it will be costly but doing the right things often is. Bless you brother.
So discouraging to see, hear Andrew succumb to the spirit of the age.
I see him succumbing to the Spirit of Christ. That is why I love his songs.
Consider this from Mr. Ryan Bomberger: soundcloud.com/world-news-group/ryan-bomberger-the-blessing-of-fathers
George, I want to really push back on that assessment. I think "the spirit of the age" applies in this case to the racism that has blighted our country for so long.
Mr. Peterson, I just recently started listening to your music, and for the limited songs I've found I enjoyed. The reason being was the sound biblical doctrine in the songs, specifically "Is He Worthy?" However, with this song you have jumped on the recent bandwagon of "wokeness" Critical Race Theory and White Privilege/Guilty. None of those concepts/theories align with God's Word. As a Christian our identity is found in Him, not our skin color. Also, there is a difference in a person who is saved by faith alone in Christ alone, a believer also a Child of God, and a non-believer, a created being. They do not become a child of God until they have repented of their sins, ask God to make them new by believing the cleansing of Jesus' blood paid the price for their sin,& submit to God by asking Jesus to be your Lord and Savior. God's Word is sufficient. Nothing needs to be added or deducted from the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and if it does it's wrong, and against scripture. The Bible is a closed Canon. All these man-made movements/ideas are rooted in the world, a corrupt, self-centered, sinful world, not the God-inspired Holy Bible, it is infallible. I will continue to pray for you sir, and that you will see that the things you've "pushed" in this song and potentially other avenues are a dangerous perversion of God's Word and the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Listen to "Come, Lord Jesus" off of his very first album. AP has the same heart and message in this as he's always had.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’ve spoken the truth!
Praise God for your voice
May these words spread world wide! ❤️
No white shame ... GOD MADE US AS WE ARE ... no social justice only BIBLICAL justice.
"No social justice only biblical justice" amen!
Wonderfully done, Andrew...thank you.
I was at the concert in northern Ireland the other week I really enjoyed it it touched my heart, the stories are beautiful and also on a side note you have great humor 😂
Powerful and compassionate. Thank you and bless you. Let us send the invitation to this broken world.
The prophet Daniel understood something that even Christians have a difficult time with. One cannot find one fault regarding Daniel, yet he understood "corporate repentance and forgiveness". Daniel says, " ... WE have sinned and committed iniquity ... O Lord, righteousness belongs to You, but to us shame of face ... To the Lord our God belong mercy and forgiveness, though WE have rebelled against Him. Now therefore, our God, hear the prayer of Your servant ..." (Daniel chapter 9).
I have to ask: Was Lot destroyed with Sodom and Gomorrah? Was Jeremiah laid to waste with Jerusalem? If you have a plank in your eye I kindly ask that you not call out the speck in mine. My salvation is in Christ alone; not his followers.
This lament is a call to mourn together for the loss of something. It is good and right to lament and decry injustice when we see it and to remind everyone that "God so loved the World..." not political parties or people groups. To acknowledge this is not bowing to a political agenda. It's just truth. Thanks, AP.
The over-emphasis on racism is a distraction from the Great Comission. The early Christians did not get distracted by the social justice issues of their day- but rather focused on the only thing that could solve those issues: the Gospel. It is the gospel that unites in Christ (slave and free, Jew and Gentile) and it is the Gospel that satisfies the longing in our hearts for perfect justice. The job of the church is not to solve social ills but to make disciples... "of every nation".
Agree. But the gospel needs to be brought to bear on racism. That work is long overdue in our country.
Thank you!!!! This is the song we've needed- prophetic, brave, gospel driven.
Wow. Deeply affected by this cry of the heart, because heart speaks to heart. Thank you Andrew Peterson. Lord, thank You for Your mercy and forgiveness and power to change hearts and lives...and for Your soon return to end the suffering and restore all that's been lost or stolen from Your original intent in creating us, Your children. We need You desperately!
amen
Here’s Andrew singing about Gods glorious beautiful love and then all the people here who obviously value their politics over Jesus complaining 🙄
He marched with rioters, looters and killers.
He sings a song praising the names of mortel men, instead of the GOD and JESUS, the only ones that deserve a song. He is raising up men over Jesus Christ. This song is evil.
This song is heresy. Andrew is a far left woke Liberal and will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Look at his face, he's overtaken by demons and looks like a broken husk of a man. There's no Jesus in him. I hope he finds it though and repents of this.
You're singing salt and light tonight, brother.
This is so beautiful Andrew.
This is really sad, just watching this song today and seeing how Andrew fell for the Critical race theory is really sad. Praying that God opens his eyes and he gets out of this new age nonsense. His music was such a blessing to me
Have always loved Andrew Peterson his music, his books, but I am very saddened to hear him falling for this false narrative. As Christians we should speak out loud against racism! It is a sin, but what is happening right now has nothing to do with actual racism. This is critical race theory and it is not compatable with Christianity. The logical end is you must choose one, you can not have both.
Dan Kulp
1. The name of the song
2.The whole song
3. for reference I would point to
The verse starting with "there are things that I need to be forgiven for" "I am still learning how to ask". And it follows he has inherited a mask and he has an illness in his veins... again It does not take a scholar to understand what he is talking about.
Carly, I have heard so many Christians using the fears of Critical Race Theory to shut down conversations about racism. Speaking up about the sin of racism does not make Andrew or anyone else a proponent of CRT.
@@ckpage100 If he releases a song "A Grown Man's Lament for the Death of God's Beloved" would it be compatible with Christianity? Would the lament only be true if he conducted an abortion? Is it between him & God personally and not a national concern worthy of repentance?
I just wanted to say thank you. You've put to music words I've been searching for but couldnt find.
Andrew is my favorite Christian artist ever, but this...
"There are things I've done that need to be forgiven, but I'm still learning how to ask. Cause the virus in my veins has been contained by this inherited mask."
...This sounds like he is taking about Critical Race Theory/White Privilege/White Guilt... But it could also be a reference to original sin and self righteousness passed down from Adam.
The context of the song would seem to suggest it's the former. This is disappointing to me. This is a system of guilt and justice that contradicts scripture and is inaccessible to the cross.
For example, my American ancestors never owned slaves. Even my European ancestors never owned slaves. But because I have light skin, I share in the guilt of white slave owners and racists of the past? And I enjoy privileges that those unrelated slave owners secured for me? And this guilt I bear is apparently untouched by the cross. My sons will bear it to the same degree, and so will their sons. This is simply not compatible with any biblical concepts of justice or sin.
I am sure that if I could trace my ancestors back before the 1600s I could eventually find an ancestor that had slaves of some kind... But the same is true for literally everyone on the planet. All people of every race are guilty if we look that far back.
I can tell that this song was an attempt to bring healing and unity. But some of these words seem to affirm unbiblical concepts. Believers listening carefully won't be able to get behind that.
Unity and healing are possible, but not through compromising truth.
Thankyou for your comment, it’s brought some clarity to me for this complicated conversation.
I think you're reading something into his lyrics that isn't there. We have all sinned and done things that we regret. I think that's what Andrew is saying here.
Peace be unto you my friend...🕊️
I'm equally concerned. If the song was titled "A Lament for God's Beloved" and mentioned no particular names, fine. But this... I hear clear echoes of modern social justice themes here. Which is unsettling, because my family and I are ardent fans and supporters of Andrew Peterson and the Rabbit Room community-and quite frankly, I expected more and different. I can't quite express the heaviness of heart with which I say that, because part of what has always drawn me to Peterson's work is the depth, the profundity, the understanding that is so often leaps and bounds beyond what passes for modern-day Christianity.
But this feels uncomfortably close to what appears to be circulating widely in the mainstream church today, which is the world's "woke" concept of justice and reconciliation wrapped in a Bible-verse veneer. I hear church leaders falling over themselves in a rush to say whatever the world is telling them they need to say. I cannot accept that. Christ has provided the means of complete and total reconciliation-between God and man, and between men. The world need not-and cannot-add anything to it.
I would encourage Mr. Peterson, the Rabbit Room community, and all others sincerely interested in what the Bible has to say about these issues to listen to Dr. Voddie Baucham's message on Ethnic Gnosticism. ruclips.net/video/Ip3nV6S_fYU/видео.html
@@Michael65429
I hope you're right. I love Andrew's music, and still do. But there are too many lyics in this song that don't make sense any other way.
I will continue to be a fan, but I'm sad to say that I am now a fan who will be listening with a more critical ear. He has been a voice in christian music that I have felt was "safe" (committed to the primacy of gospel principles). But unfortunately I think this is a departure from that.
We can agree that racism is sin, and we can agree that the church is called to serve the poor and the widow, the oppressed and the downtrodden.
But to accept personal guilt or responsibility for the sins of people that looked like you hundreds of years ago?
If my neighbor's white grandpa did something terrible to you before I was born... And the hurt is reawakened because I look like that man. I will sympathize with you, I will attempt to comfort you and and encourage you. I feel the call of Christ to do those things because he loves you, and I do as well. But if I am asked to accept some responsibility or guilt because of my appearance. That is plainly not biblical.
This country receives millions of new immigrants every year. Most become citizens. Therfore most of the black people you meet are probably descended from poor immigrants who came here looking for opportunity, not slaves. Most white people you meet are also probably descended from poor immigrants, not slave holders.
We have societal problems to solve in this country. But assigning blame or privilege based on skin color is not going to solve it. Only the gospel can do that. Only Jesus.
And unfortunately I didn't hear Jesus taking as much of a central focus in this song as he does in so much of Andrew's other work. Jesus is what we all need.
@@houseal
I had actually just watched that message for the first time a few weeks ago. Excellent message. Voddie is a voice of gospel reasoning that the church really needs right now, and he walks the talk. Love him.
Whose sin are you confessing?
Andrew, thank you, I weep with gratitude for a white face that loves Jesus for making it personal.
Jesus never glamorized criminals or thuggish behavior.
@@wafou8702 Andrew isn't doing that either.
@@calebjoy8979
Every person he mentioned wasn't killed for being black. Thuggish behavior is what determines our out come with law enforcement. Not race.
Had they only followed the directions of the officers, they'd still be alive today.
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@Daughter of Enoch
Yep.. you don't have to be white to be a racist.
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@Daughter of Enoch That wasn't a random accusation. 🤯
That was a factual statement.
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Your race card has been revoked.
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This is the first time I have listened to you, and you are a good song writer, but I like others question your reasons for talking about these three people who were killed by the police. Why not mention David Dorn the 77 year old black cop who was gunned town while helping his friend defend his store from rioters? He led an exemplary life of service to others. Where was the cry of justice for his life, and the lives of all the other innocents who were killed or injured in these riots. Racism is wrong, but it isn’t systemic. That is the battle cry of the left who want all of us to atone for the sins of a few bad apples. Race isn’t even a Biblical concept, it is Darwinian. “So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.” Genesis 1:27. “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.” Genesis 2:7. There is no mention of race, because we all belong to the same race, the human race.
You can't expect AP to literally mention every person who has been killed. That's unfair. He included them in his lyrics. You may say race isn't a Biblical concept, but injustice is. For someone to speak out against injustice and be criticized for it is just shocking to me.
Were all three people mentioned killed by the police?
Christopher Wofford - To my knowledge, they were.
@@christopherwofford4795 Ahmaud Arbery was not killed by police. One of the 3 white men involved was retired police so it technically fits the narrative of those viewing everything through CRT/Intersectionality.
I agree with your post, but so you're further eqquipt with other discussions...racism existed in the hearts of Aaron and Miriam. They didn't like Zipporah because she was dark and confronted Moses about it. God punished them with leprosy. So yes, racism is in the bible, and God hates it.
A lot of these comments are heartbreaking.
Agreed. So many Christian sell outs who glorify criminals and spit on the word of God.
@@echoechoecho7142 lol the large body of comments has changed since I left my reply a year ago. If by criminals you mean the failing justice system and murderous cops, we're in agreement
@@calebjoy8979 Wow, are you brainwashed.
Thank you, brother. I felt the Spirit of God as I listened to this song. At points your voice reminded me of Rich Mullins. A fitting comparison in other ways, too, I sense.
We love your music. Thank you. This brought emotion and was helpful to remind us of the heart of God, and to exhort us to repentance for sins of not loving our fellow man, but I must, like my brothers and sisters below, lovingly exhort you to be careful to follow the Word correctly. These terrible events (ALL the deaths, riots, carnage) cannot be made to look other than they were...terrible sins against God and fellow man. To suggest that the marching and what it led to was in any way healing or helpful just isn't true. So much devastation...because of mourning?!
Still, I am thankful for your heart of compassion and love for our Lord.
What a broken world we live in! 😪😪
Where can I read the lyrics?
As applied to the sin of murder in general, I really like this song. But the title and references to the three media-magnified cases makes it clear that one of my favorite songwriters believes those cases to be racially-motivated, and this to be the fault of Caucasians in general. That, to me, is quite a sad and misguided conclusion. If you examine the facts, not the media hype and lies, there is no evidence of racial motivations in these cases at all. Really - go back and look at the facts as a courtroom would. So that kind of undermines the message of the song to me. But the poetry and melody is genius, as always!
You’ll accept the truth when you’re ready. Coming to terms with your own white privilege and the systemic racism in our society is a difficult task. I pray that the Lord will guide you❤️
@@elizabethjones3132 White privilege is a term used to slander people of a certain skin color that what they have is not rightfully gained. It is a racist, demeaning, and deeply hurtful accustation. Also, systemic racism is a myth perpetuated by those that would seek to overturn capitalism and establish a marxist system of socialism. I pray that the Lord would open your eyes to these subtle deceptions and return you to the truth.
@@elizabethjones3132 I thought about just smiling and moving on, but it is probably worth saying that your comment was probably more condescending, pious, and self-righteous than you realize. 😊❤
@@elizabethjones3132 I'll be praying along with you. These people need to wake up.
As we discuss I'm keeping in mind the beauty and insights of his song 'Is He Worthy?'. Yet it's possible for any one of us to be caught up and carried away from the facts and what is good in these days of shaking. Our enemy is both Accuser and Deceiver of the brethren. What he is throwing at us in these days is being used by God to shake the Church and make sure our faith is genuine. (Haggai 2:6-7; Mike Bickle very helpful on this.) Here are just a few of the links I'm finding helpful in trying to understand such truth issues as this in these Last Days of confusion and deception which we must be careful don't divide the Church:
I find I need to refer to a range of respected analysts who have the breadth of knowledge and depth of insight I lack. Not just people I agree with. But generally people who uphold Judeo-Christian values, though many are neither Jewish nor Christian so they may have some blind spots. I have a long list but Martin Iles is one of the Christians I go to:
ruclips.net/video/KPBtC38CXdQ/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/I0qyI0NIvg0/видео.html
In this 2nd link on BLM he quotes (at 9 minutes) the research of a brilliant Harvard social scientist (an African-American), Roland Fryer, on the actual facts and statistics behind what's flared up since George Floyd's death.
Roland Fryer was since hung out to dry by Harvard, based on spurious claims of sexual harassment which the NY Times helped to inflame. I owe this analysis to his mentor, Dr Glenn Loury
ruclips.net/video/T0M78G4f06Y/видео.html
Dr Loury (another distinguished African-American professor) looks like a good reference point on BLM:
For a brief bio in the intro:
ruclips.net/video/8IEsCnsSnxg/видео.html
Then on the George Floyd case:
ruclips.net/video/V8fndiNZimA/видео.html
Confirming the statistical facts, a younger black perspective, Coleman Hughes (listen from about 7 min):
ruclips.net/video/Mtjuf_RxsLA/видео.html
I'm a person of color...white. In Physics, and water color painting, it is the aesthetic equivalent of light. Light contains ALL the colors of the spectrum. And when we see a color, red for instance, we have to realize that all the rest of the spectrum has been ABSORBED by the object, and only the one color visible is reflected back to us. I look forward to the day all the colors come together and we only see LIGHT! Thanks for your Righteous Lament, somewhat in the spirit (with the Holy Spirit predominant here) of the very early '60s. God bless!
What about the police officers who have been killed because of hate. Mention their names too. It goes both ways. I'm a little disappointed with Andrew Peterson today.
You can't literally mention every person's name. I'm sure AP doesn't condone violence in any form. Let's not criticize his compassion here.
What about people that are not police officers that were killed. Why did you leave them out Mandy? Because you can’t address every situation, that’s why.
Why not just a man's lament?
Maybe because Andrew Peterson is white??? Idk just an observation
@@elizabethmullins465 My point is that it's not relevant to the content, pretty sure you can lament injustice regardless of what you look like. Then again this guy did allude to whiteness being a virus running in his veins....
I don't know. Does it matter?
Why not just listen and enjoy the depth of the song???FYI, he's a "white" man! Be blessed and move forward!
Thank you for helping us mourn, Andrew.
Used to be a fan, sad to see
Andrew, I've always loved your music and I believe that you are definitely anointed by God, but you disappointed me with this song. What exactly is the point of it? Are you apologizing for the deaths of these people? If so....why? Why are you apologizing for sins that you didn't commit?
Why did the psalmists lament for sins they did not commit?
@Brian Bachinger I don't hear Andrew Peterson saying "one race is just naturally racist and the cause of all evil and suffering" in this song either. It doesn't have to be (and isn't) all or nothing. Blessings.
Could you point out a lyric that you think is apologising for sins he didn't commit? Lamenting is not the same as apologising. As far as I can tell this song is him lamenting over sin he sees around him and apologising for sin he sees in his own heart as a result.
@Brian Bachinger spot on
Definitely this song very heartfelt has got us thinking as well. Still every morning I walk a mile in my head the song "worthy."
Amen! Thank you for this beautiful song!
Daniel's Confession on Behalf of His People (Daniel 9:1-19)
This was necessary as Jesus had not become our intercessor yet. Daniel, and every one who mediated for their people in the old covenant, were shadows and types of The Mediator. Our Jesus ♡ where there were once many nations we now have two. God's Kingdom and the kingdom of darkness. Jesus changed everything. Instead of going to the high priest and staying outside of the tabernacle while our sins are ceremoniously covered we have been made the temple of the Holy Spirit. He is now inside everyone who has put their belief and trust in Jesus. I no more need an intercessor for my sins than I do a secretary to speak to my father on my behalf. I have His personal number, so to speak. I can speak to Him anytime I want, GLORY to God hallelujah. And He speaks to me! The mercy and grace and wonder of it all. Thank you, Jesus.
Thank You Andrew. 😌🙏
Hi, Andrew Peterson, my parents got to see your concert, (in Oregon.) I’m jealous, I’ve been reading your books, they are so inspiring, every time I don’t know what to write I read your books, my friend even got you to sign his book. Can you give me some tips on writing?
wow - what a poet! A modern Rich Mullins.
Beautifully done as always.
Actually, it was very disappointing. He succumbed to the whole BLM movement. So sad
Has nothing to do with BLM. Has to do with valuing black lives. Forget about the organization if u want. This is a thoughtful lament.
@AndrewPeterson me and my family could use your prayers. Our prodigal brother says he wants to make things up with us. The only thing is he's said this before and not meant it. So if you and your family could pray for us we'd really appreciate it. :)
Ever write a song about the babies killed by abortion?Can you say their names in a song? I only ask b/c I've been listening to your music 18yrs +. We all have our own load of oppressive faults!
Can't just enter in the suffering? You've gotta dodge the issue and redirect to abortion?
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Want to know something disgusting? Miscarriages are included in those numbers. So, go off shaming women.
@@michaeldirrim2361 I am by no means saying that abortion is not an important issue. However, I have noticed that a lot of PRO-LIFE christians will redirect from a killing of a black person and bring up abortion--for whatever reason. When a life is taken, like George Floyd's, and someone says "Well what about abortion?" I find that to be very insensitive and it ignores the suffering of the people at hand and devalues the specific life that was lost.
@@laurenbibeault78 I was not talking about miscarriages or the women that aborted their babies . I have had 3 miscarriages. I know how it feels. I am not shaming women. I asked if he had ever written a song about the babies that were murdered due to abortion? I was disappointed that he wrote a song with "George 's" name and then calls him "My beloved" . The church is God's beloved. If George was a believer, then he could be included in that . But it makes me sad people write songs to appease "current culture " and forgets the aborted babies. Every life is precious.
Daniel 3:7, “therefore as soon as all the people heard the sound of the horn, pipe, lyre, trigon, harp, bagpipe, and every kind of music, all the people, nations, and languages fell down and worshiped the golden image that king nebuchadnezzar had set up”
Unfair comparison.
Tyler Smith how so?
@@theolden2956 well, racial reconciliation is not inherently an idolatrous cause. (Even though to some it can become one). It is an outworking of the gospel itself. I'm grateful AP is using his art to contribute to this.
Tyler Smith the organization Black Lives Matter doesn’t care about life or else they would put a stop to planned parenthood, over 1000 black babies were killed just today by being aborted
A masterpiece!
😬Well, no one bats a thousand.
Right.
Thank you for sharing your heart, Andrew.
While I'm a huge fan of Andrew Peterson, I have to admit this song is very disappointing. Much of his lyrics are beautiful and true, however using the specific names of people involved in some overly politicized events takes most of the beauty away and leaves no doubt as to the political intentions of the writer. George Floyd was not an innocent man. He was a rapist and threatened to murder a pregnant woman at one point. At the time of his death he was abusing drugs and his autopsy revealed that as the cause of his death. His name should have absolutely nothing to do with this song. As for the others I'm not as familiar with their cases except that their deaths have also been overly politicized. These are the names of criminals whose lives ended, while possibly unjustly, as a result of their own criminal activity and involvement. Praising and lifting up their names in song is not only misleading, it invalidates the entire song and all its intended meaning. I sincerely hope Andrew remakes this song with a more correct view of current events and omits the names so wrongly given prominence in his work.
Don't go down this path of critical race theory Andrew, it's not the gospel. You are not defined by your race but by your son ship in the Lord Jesus.
I’m just curious. Do you believe racism doesn’t exist or that the church should remain silent on it?
He clearly believes in one race. He is revealing that others have not which is why they were wrongfully treated. If it seem evil to serve the Lord, choose this day who you will serve.
Why do you think this goes against the teachings of Jesus to love your neighbor?
@@moniquewrites9046 Racism exists, yes. Most of these cases fail to show race as a motive, but they are assumed to be based on the race of the people involved. What does Andrew including his own race in the song's title have anything to do with wrongful treatment of people of color at the hands of a few cops? Is Andrew guilty based on his skin color? Are you aware that just as many white people are killed by cops as blacks? Will there be songs for them by our black brothers and sisters in the Lord? This whole ordeal is based on emotion and optics and not on facts or reason.... and the BLM movement is more about dismantling America and turning it into some sort of marxist utopia rather than justice for blacks. Case in point - they don't give a rip about the thousands of blacks killed each year in the inner cities of Chicago, or the black babies being aborted. Will Andrew sing a song about that? Unlikely.
This is a helpful read on critical race theory: facebook.com/notes/kelly-hamren/reflections-from-a-christian-scholar-on-social-justice-critical-race-theory-marx/10156935647256923
@@philipmurray9796 THANK YOU!! the inconsistencies are atrocious coming from Christians and I'm getting tired of it.. Furthermore George Flloyd was a criminal who threatened to shoot the baby of his pregnant "girlfriend"... The only point I would add to your incredible comment is don't forget the 650-850k white soldiers who died during the civil war.. Many paying the price of sins in the south.. And 400K died.. Husbands , fathers, sons trying to free the slaves.. More than all other americans who have died combined in the world wars up to the vietnam war.. White people have paid dearly for the atrocity of slavery.. I dont hear any songs from the black community thanking all the white soldiers who died freely fighting to free those they didnt even know.. Liberals have rewritten history and much of the body of Christ is buying into it... Ridiculous!! But your comment was a major breath of fresh air.. The truth always is nowadays!!
What a gift, to be able to verbalize and then put to music your heart. Thank you Andrew.
Anybody know the tuning he is using on his guitar?
DADGAD!
Please do more of this!!! The kingdom of God needs it!!!!!
Woke anti Biblical songs? No. It doesn't.
Racisism is wicked and sinful. Andrew it is good you’ve confessed your racism (1 John 1:9). Candace Owens and Larry Elder have helped me deal with George’s murder. Also Voddie Baucham’s sermons and John MacArthur’s June 2020 sermons have been edifying. Maranatha Lord Jesus!
He never confessed racism.
Soli Deo Gloria, you posted this comment 1 month ago. We now have the leaked police body cam footage. George Flyod wasn't murdered, and it wasn't racism. He was high as a kite on fentynal....which is the reason he said he couldn't breath as the police officers struggled for 20 minutes to put him in the back seat of the police car. George Flyod was the one who asked to be placed on the ground. Go and watch the full footage of the body cam....before you can't find it.
Can we add Secoreia Turner to the list of God's Beloved?
Can we add Rosanne Boyland and Ashli Babbitt, as well please?
God. Bless.You. And thank you for a way for providing a way to pray.
🧐🧐🧐
“God’s beloved” and “beloved of God” are biblical phrases for regenerate Christians. What’s the evidence or fruit showing that these people were saved?
Beautiful tribute.
Thank you for your kindness.
Thank you. This is truth and light wrapped in love.
Thank you for giving voice and song for all sadness and hope