The thing i learned from mountain biking. "Learning is Expensive",You either pay a mechanic to fix and maintain ur bike, or attend a class/workshop then amount of hrs u attend,or else not minding if u break some parts,just keep doing mistake so you can learn it from ur self.
Hell Yeah it’s about developing those bike handling skills with surgical precision! That’s why I love riding hard tails. It mentally stimulates me more by keeping me on my toes and I don’t hate the fact it climbs way more efficiently than full suspension. Honestly I feel that any local trails can be ridden on a hard tail. Bike park style jumps and drops is another story. Nice work on the video my man...keep it up!
You nailed the issue with full suspension vs. HT in the opening. Most beginners now are opting for FS and wondering why they're not progressing, sure the ability to hit everything from the off feels cool at the start but you're not learning to pick lines, read the trail, learn proper BW distribution and correct poor technique. It's like driving a manual vs. automatic.
Really helps lean good line choice as the alternative can hurt 😆. It really helps learn to pump and work the bike. Thanks for the great feedback and support!
Your thoughts mimicks my sentiments to a tee. Glad to see you trusting the bike more and having fun with it after your shocking first ride impression. 🙂
I have a hard tail and an Enduro. My Enduro is pretty much park only. My hardtail is budget xc. One thing I notice going the other way, from hard tail to soft tail, is what you said. With the long travel Enduro I don't pick lines like I use to. I take some of chunk head on. I find it easy to go over then around. As for rocks in berms, I had no idea why I was afraid of them in my Enduro. I had tell myself its okay to roll over! Lol As for my little one, looking at getting her full suspension all mountain next year. She will okay grow her hardtail xc. But once full grown either a downhill, she only wants to ride park, or Enduro. And yes a budget hardtail.
I love my plow wagon 160/170mm on chunky trails but running the HT is a whole experience. I've gotten better at pumping and working the bike in the more demanding terrain. That has helped me go faster on the bigger bikes. HT bikes are a good starting point for sure. Thanks for watching...... I like how our RUclips names are contradictory 😆.
@@StraightLine_MTB thanks. We use to ridewithevac, but she two rules for biking. First no straight lines. She loves cycling, but road cycle is not her thing. We tried that once and after that she said no more straight lines. Thus the name change. Second rule avoid pedaling. Thus the passing to the local bike park
You can absolutely give a good review. It just a different point of view which is what every review is. The terrain you ride in is far different from what Steve at HT Party does in AZ. Now I did purchase a Ragely Big Al as a result of his review, but because that you have a ridden a lot of long and short travel FS bikes, a switch to the fun of a hard tail is valid point of view as well. :)
Thank you Chris. The Scout is a great bike and such a blast to ride. It really made all my local trails feel new again and pushed me to have to try harder on the DH sections. I actually was after a steel Ragley as well but all models were sold out. I would love to try a steel frame HT and see how that feels and may snag one soon. Chromag is another frame that is very intriguing. Thanks again for watching!
Agreed, if you can afford to have two bikes, you got to have a hard tail! I have a Nukeproof Mega 275 and a hard tail 29er, and I love riding my hard tail. They're just so fun. My riding buddy actually has this Scout 290 Pro, and it's super nice!!
Dude a lot of trails I've been faster on my hardtail vs my Yeti SB6 (160/160mm travel). Less forgiving but will increase speed and skill for sure. Loads of fun too! Have both!
Skipping over the top of rocks is faster lol. Yes, pumping and moving with the bike gets you down fast. I am realizing enduro bikes are making me a lazier rider.
@@CornellHarris awesome! Izzo is a great bike and lots of fun. Very surprising how capable these new short travel 29ers are. Let me know what you think of it when you get it
I am 5'11.5" with 31.5" inseam and riding a Large. Fit felt great stock...40mm stem might have felt a touch better but the stock 50mm stem was not uncomfortable. All around a great bike and super fun on the trail. Thanks for watching!
I want a hardtail and I almost bought a Commencal Meta HT AM. Instead I bought a Fox Factory 38 (replaced my Fox 38 Performance) and Fox Factory X2 (replaced my Fox DPX2 Performance.) I should have bought the hardtail 😆 It would have been cheaper too. Another great video brother.
Man that was a beautiful break down ! U killed it , For your riding style wish you grabbed a more Agro HT. I’m on Ragley Mmmbop 63 HA on a 160 lyrik and sitting on 2.8 fatties , At 54 years old not even trying I stick to my boys who got full squish carbons But and the BIG Butt is I’m way more fatigued and have to white knuckle some stuff after a long ride , Funny thing is one of my dudes was like I will swap you for my Bronson and I was like Nah … if my old ass goes full squish I will get a ebike and just sell full out lol
Thank you! I was actually after a Chromag Rootdown but at the time they were sold out. If I go HT again I most surely will get a steel frame with more aggressive geometry. There is something rewarding about clearing sketchy lines on a HT.....but the pain afterwards isn't so great 😆 . Thanks for watching!
@@StraightLine_MTB all LuV .. I have ridden a few steal HTz and to 100 the aluminum Ragleys are just as compliant and way lighter , look at the RSD middle child it had a sliding rear end so you can try it a ton of ways , I have ridden the aluminum , steel and titanium , the TI is dope and the aluminum is dope the steal is not very fun
Just built my scout lyric ultimate 160 xt parts and horizon v2 rims ard kit i come form motocross i am 37 and ill be on a hardtail till I need a full suspension bike but I love jumping and playing fast is cool but line choice all day
Good job! My 17 Honzo was stolen and I'm debating the Scout or a honzo esd.. I ran a cush core in the rear and it was a game changer. I live in Durango Colorado and we have some chunk lol.
Honzo was high on my list as well. I added 2.6 tires and Tannus Tubeless Armour in the rear and that really helped with comfort. The chunk really makes you study Line choices when rocking the hardtail.....but it's always a great feeling when you clear sketchy sections even if your back is not happy 😆 . Thanks for watching Rob.
$2500 bucks for that amazing bike!!! Hell yeah!! Pimp ass chrome and the icing on the cake is the amazing Brand X dropper. Nice looking welds too. You know how I feel about Nukeproof and Vitus! 😍😍😍😍😍
@@nostr8ghtlinzs596 Yeah I am the Sam way. I have a 2021 Vitus Sommet CRX enduro bike and I did a dream build on it. But I have to say this Nukeproof that Jacob has here is one I would love to own
Scout is awesome.....with me. For the price this bike is well spec'd and so capable. unfortunately no bike is a keeper...gotta keep the bikes moving in and out lol.
Riding Mountain Rigs, since 1996. Cannot afford full-suspension...nor the components such as a shock. Tires are now too expensive. $4.00 to produce a bike tire, $70.00 for the consumer. And I'm heavy at 255 pounds. Have not tested(Trek, Vitus,Rocky Mountain, Nukeproof), a full-suspension, that I can trust. The rear linkage, usually fails. Hardtails? I've had Cube, Ragley, Nukeproof, GT, and Sonder. I love'em all. Full-suspension & carbon, is extremely...over-rated.
I chose 29 simply for the rollover and smoothness....as c well as that's mainly what I have been riding the last couple years. 29er will give more comfort when things get rocky.
The thing i learned from mountain biking. "Learning is Expensive",You either pay a mechanic to fix and maintain ur bike, or attend a class/workshop then amount of hrs u attend,or else not minding if u break some parts,just keep doing mistake so you can learn it from ur self.
RUclips videos have been helpful for me to learn how to fix things. Sometimes it's rewarding and other times it can be frustrating lol
Those are nice trails. Fun times.
Hell Yeah it’s about developing those bike
handling skills with surgical precision! That’s why I love riding hard tails. It mentally stimulates me more by keeping me on my toes and I don’t hate the fact it climbs way more efficiently than full suspension. Honestly I feel that any local trails can be ridden on a hard tail. Bike park style jumps and drops is another story. Nice work on the video my man...keep it up!
Yes, I have ridden the hardtail on all the local trails.....sometimes it was quite a bit more interesting.
I love my nukeproof scout 290 I put 3.0 tires and I love it
Nice. Extra cush is nice
You nailed the issue with full suspension vs. HT in the opening. Most beginners now are opting for FS and wondering why they're not progressing, sure the ability to hit everything from the off feels cool at the start but you're not learning to pick lines, read the trail, learn proper BW distribution and correct poor technique. It's like driving a manual vs. automatic.
Really helps lean good line choice as the alternative can hurt 😆. It really helps learn to pump and work the bike. Thanks for the great feedback and support!
Nice, I own a Surly Karata Monkey steel hardtail and it rips. The steel frame takes a lot of the trail chatter out. Steel is real. Nice channel man.
I really wanted to try a steel model but was very hard to get one anytime soon. Would love to give one a try. Thanks for watching!
Your thoughts mimicks my sentiments to a tee. Glad to see you trusting the bike more and having fun with it after your shocking first ride impression. 🙂
It took a bit of getting used to lol. Turned out to be a blast. Thanks for watching.
I have a hard tail and an Enduro. My Enduro is pretty much park only. My hardtail is budget xc. One thing I notice going the other way, from hard tail to soft tail, is what you said. With the long travel Enduro I don't pick lines like I use to. I take some of chunk head on. I find it easy to go over then around.
As for rocks in berms, I had no idea why I was afraid of them in my Enduro. I had tell myself its okay to roll over! Lol
As for my little one, looking at getting her full suspension all mountain next year. She will okay grow her hardtail xc. But once full grown either a downhill, she only wants to ride park, or Enduro. And yes a budget hardtail.
I love my plow wagon 160/170mm on chunky trails but running the HT is a whole experience. I've gotten better at pumping and working the bike in the more demanding terrain. That has helped me go faster on the bigger bikes. HT bikes are a good starting point for sure. Thanks for watching...... I like how our RUclips names are contradictory 😆.
@@StraightLine_MTB thanks. We use to ridewithevac, but she two rules for biking. First no straight lines. She loves cycling, but road cycle is not her thing. We tried that once and after that she said no more straight lines. Thus the name change. Second rule avoid pedaling. Thus the passing to the local bike park
You can absolutely give a good review. It just a different point of view which is what every review is. The terrain you ride in is far different from what Steve at HT Party does in AZ. Now I did purchase a Ragely Big Al as a result of his review, but because that you have a ridden a lot of long and short travel FS bikes, a switch to the fun of a hard tail is valid point of view as well. :)
Thank you Chris. The Scout is a great bike and such a blast to ride. It really made all my local trails feel new again and pushed me to have to try harder on the DH sections. I actually was after a steel Ragley as well but all models were sold out. I would love to try a steel frame HT and see how that feels and may snag one soon. Chromag is another frame that is very intriguing. Thanks again for watching!
Agreed, if you can afford to have two bikes, you got to have a hard tail! I have a Nukeproof Mega 275 and a hard tail 29er, and I love riding my hard tail. They're just so fun. My riding buddy actually has this Scout 290 Pro, and it's super nice!!
Yes! Mega and the Scout is what I had and those are some excellent options. Nukeproof is killing it with their recent bikes.
@@StraightLine_MTB Definitely! One of my most favorite brands right now!
@@StraightLine_MTB u can put 3 inch tyres on there
@@JDR71326 the 2.6 tires fit nicely but would say 2.8 wouldn't work.....so 3.0 would be a no go unfortunately.
Dude a lot of trails I've been faster on my hardtail vs my Yeti SB6 (160/160mm travel). Less forgiving but will increase speed and skill for sure. Loads of fun too! Have both!
Skipping over the top of rocks is faster lol. Yes, pumping and moving with the bike gets you down fast. I am realizing enduro bikes are making me a lazier rider.
Great video buddy, very interesting and nicely explained. The place looks great. keep up the good work and have fun. Ride on
Thank you! We have some great trails out here...very lucky. Thanks for watching!
@@StraightLine_MTB Thank you mate, thank you for subscribing, I subscribed to your channel too. Ride on and have fun
Firme! I switched to a mullet honeymaker Hardtail w 2.8s , from a full sus…I’ve had so much fun! If I want suspension I hop on my ktm Xc300
2.8 would be awesome! Having the KTM is a super awesome option as well. Climb all day on that lol. Thanks for watching!
I have a 27.5 Salsa Timberjack, find having the 2.8 tires and running a slightly lower pressure helps alot in the chunk.
Yes. That extra cush running fatter tires makes a difference....I bet those 2.8s are really nice on the Timberjack. Thanks for watching
@@StraightLine_MTB Yes it does! Happy to watch. Bought a izzo on your review, can't wait for it to be delivered!
@@CornellHarris awesome! Izzo is a great bike and lots of fun. Very surprising how capable these new short travel 29ers are. Let me know what you think of it when you get it
This a great breakdown between hardtail and full sus. Well said!
Thank you for the support!
Thank you for the great video. Can you share your height and the size of the bike ( and if you’re happy with the sizing ). Thanks.
I am 5'11.5" with 31.5" inseam and riding a Large. Fit felt great stock...40mm stem might have felt a touch better but the stock 50mm stem was not uncomfortable. All around a great bike and super fun on the trail. Thanks for watching!
@@StraightLine_MTB Thanks!
oh awesome! Hardtail is hardcore! well done mate :)
Hard-core and hard 😆.....but fun. Thanks for watching!
I want a hardtail and I almost bought a Commencal Meta HT AM. Instead I bought a Fox Factory 38 (replaced my Fox 38 Performance) and Fox Factory X2 (replaced my Fox DPX2 Performance.) I should have bought the hardtail 😆 It would have been cheaper too. Another great video brother.
Yes. They are fun and give a different perspective on local trails. Thanks for watching brother
Man that was a beautiful break down ! U killed it ,
For your riding style wish you grabbed a more Agro HT.
I’m on Ragley Mmmbop 63 HA on a 160 lyrik and sitting on 2.8 fatties ,
At 54 years old not even trying I stick to my boys who got full squish carbons
But and the BIG Butt is I’m way more fatigued and have to white knuckle some stuff after a long ride ,
Funny thing is one of my dudes was like I will swap you for my Bronson and I was like Nah … if my old ass goes full squish I will get a ebike and just sell full out lol
Thank you! I was actually after a Chromag Rootdown but at the time they were sold out. If I go HT again I most surely will get a steel frame with more aggressive geometry. There is something rewarding about clearing sketchy lines on a HT.....but the pain afterwards isn't so great 😆 . Thanks for watching!
@@StraightLine_MTB all LuV .. I have ridden a few steal HTz and to 100 the aluminum Ragleys are just as compliant and way lighter , look at the RSD middle child it had a sliding rear end so you can try it a ton of ways ,
I have ridden the aluminum , steel and titanium , the TI is dope and the aluminum is dope the steal is not very fun
Just built my scout lyric ultimate 160 xt parts and horizon v2 rims ard kit i come form motocross i am 37 and ill be on a hardtail till I need a full suspension bike but I love jumping and playing fast is cool but line choice all day
Nice, sounds like you have an excellent build. HT bikes are fun. Thanks for watching
I have the 290 expert hardtail over on my channel …beast of a bike
Good job! My 17 Honzo was stolen and I'm debating the Scout or a honzo esd.. I ran a cush core in the rear and it was a game changer. I live in Durango Colorado and we have some chunk lol.
Honzo was high on my list as well. I added 2.6 tires and Tannus Tubeless Armour in the rear and that really helped with comfort. The chunk really makes you study Line choices when rocking the hardtail.....but it's always a great feeling when you clear sketchy sections even if your back is not happy 😆 . Thanks for watching Rob.
$2500 bucks for that amazing bike!!! Hell yeah!! Pimp ass chrome and the icing on the cake is the amazing Brand X dropper. Nice looking welds too. You know how I feel about Nukeproof and Vitus! 😍😍😍😍😍
Yeah there are some really high end hardtails out there. High-end components slack...
@@nostr8ghtlinzs596 yeah my thirteen year old has a Vitus Sentier VR and I customized it for him too. He is doing a lot of DH riding with it too
@@trailpimp6369 the top concern with my is looks. Must be pretty. I am more spec oriented
@@nostr8ghtlinzs596 Yeah I am the Sam way. I have a 2021 Vitus Sommet CRX enduro bike and I did a dream build on it. But I have to say this Nukeproof that Jacob has here is one I would love to own
For the price it is great.....looks nice to boot. I'd love to try a Chromag or Canfield steel frame HT.
👌great video, and a nice ride👌
Thanks Steve. It is a great bike
Hardtail on Hard Trails!!! Yes Sirrrrrrr!!! Dope bike brother. Is she a keeper?
Scout is awesome.....with me. For the price this bike is well spec'd and so capable. unfortunately no bike is a keeper...gotta keep the bikes moving in and out lol.
How many pounds do it weighs???
I believe it was around 31lbs
What size did you go for and what height are you? Thanks
I'm 5'11.5" riding a large. Fit was good aside from I may prefer a 40mm stem instead of the 50mm.
Riding Mountain Rigs, since 1996. Cannot afford full-suspension...nor the components such as a shock. Tires are now too expensive. $4.00 to produce a bike tire, $70.00 for the consumer. And I'm heavy at 255 pounds. Have not tested(Trek, Vitus,Rocky Mountain, Nukeproof), a full-suspension, that I can trust. The rear linkage, usually fails. Hardtails? I've had Cube, Ragley, Nukeproof, GT, and Sonder. I love'em all. Full-suspension & carbon, is extremely...over-rated.
Hardtails are the man's mountain bike. Super fun. Challenging, and fulfilling to ride. Would love a lynsky or moots ti hardtail
Why'd you go 29" on the HT? I'd like to add one to the stable but I'm leaning 27.5 on this one.
I chose 29 simply for the rollover and smoothness....as c well as that's mainly what I have been riding the last couple years. 29er will give more comfort when things get rocky.