Nukeproof Scout 290 Review - Is This Your Next Hardtail? The Gen 3 Scout

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024
  • 2022 Nukeproof Scout 290 Review is here. Today we head to Broken Arrow trail in Sedona, AZ to see how it stacks up. This is the most requested hardtails on the channel and I'm family to finally get one in. What questions do you have?
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Комментарии • 306

  • @hardtailparty
    @hardtailparty  2 года назад +19

    Interested in picking my brain to know which bike i recommend for your trails and riding style? Here's a link to my bike consultation service: patreon.com/hardtailparty
    I know a lot of you are HUGE fans of the scout, and for many of you it's the best hardtail you've ridden. Many are hoping my reviews will be a validation the decision they made to purchase a certain bike. I totally get that. If you're happy with your bike and you think it's the greatest bike ever, then it shouldn't matter what i say about it.
    However, the purpose of bike reviews is to be objective and explain how a bike rides compared to the 70+ other modern hardtails I've ridden. A lot of people get defensive and like to attack me and question my findings if they didnt get the validation they were seeking. You're entitled to that, but i have zero ulterior motives in these reviews. I sincerely hope every hardtail i review blows my socks off and is the best bike I've ridden to date. So don't take it personally if your favorite bike isn't my favorite bike.
    In the end, if you have one of these and you love it, that's all that matters.

    • @leokuo7127
      @leokuo7127 2 года назад

      I should had paid for your service before pulling the plug the mark 2 version of this bike. Not totally a fan of it. I'm still trying to figure out how to make it comfortable like my old Chromag. I should had just gotten another Chromag, but they were out of stock and the Scout was available.

    • @TheFatSteez
      @TheFatSteez 2 года назад

      @hardtail party hey mate just thought you’d like to pin this comment as it’s fallen quite a way down the comment section

  • @ghensold
    @ghensold 2 года назад +78

    Your ability to talk through steep technical climbs is crazy impressive. Great review, appreciated the words about not widening trails. There are some challenges coming for this sport around our environmental impact as it continues to gain popularity and land erosion progresses over time. We should start thinking now about what it will take to be sustainable for another 50 years at least if we want our kids and grandkids to continue enjoying this sport.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +10

      100% agree about thinking about the long-term effects of how we ride these trails.

    • @rapamune
      @rapamune 2 года назад +1

      @@hardtailparty Very impressive indeed

    • @mybadvideos
      @mybadvideos 2 года назад +2

      At least in New England I'm wondering if there's going to be an interesting tension between widening existing trails to make them more accessible by adaptive vehicles versus keeping them more old school, or simply building more new trails designed to be adaptive from the start.

    • @MBdrummer3288
      @MBdrummer3288 Год назад

      Yeah man, he is an absolute goat! It’s unbelievable. I’d be so freaking gassed I couldn’t speak a word and huffing and puffing my brains out!

  • @NukeProofBikes1
    @NukeProofBikes1 2 года назад +56

    Thank you for your take on the Scout Steve 🤘 Look forward to a trip to the USA and hopefully get out for a rip with you on the Scout.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +14

      Let's make it happen, can't wait.

    • @syms85
      @syms85 11 месяцев назад +3

      What’s happening to the company now? Are they going bust?

    • @AIK.1891
      @AIK.1891 4 месяца назад

      How can I get a Scout in Sweden!?

    • @RobertFullStop
      @RobertFullStop 4 месяца назад

      @@AIK.1891 eBay UK

    • @sashaantidot2444
      @sashaantidot2444 3 месяца назад

      @@syms85yes . But I pick one before they went out

  • @politan83
    @politan83 2 года назад +29

    THANK YOU for putting out there that not everyone needs to takes great physical risks to be a serious rider. Stay safe out there, folks! Thoughtful and unpretentious as always. Doing the Patreon tomorrow!

  • @brianmoriarty4699
    @brianmoriarty4699 2 года назад +24

    I totally agree with your PSA about trail conservation. Respect your surroundings.

  • @jamescharlton8788
    @jamescharlton8788 Год назад +4

    After three months of owning a a 275 Scout comp , Steve's review is spot on. it laps up reds, blacks , trail centre's , commutes , local woods and naughty stuff. I never feel compromised in any situation . I watched a lot of Hardtail Party before buying this bike , up there with the best mtb content on RUclips.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  Год назад +2

      I'm glad you're loving yours. I need to eat the 27.5 sometime

  • @johnnydoe66
    @johnnydoe66 2 года назад +14

    Totally agree with you about trail conservation. Too many people, bikers and hikers, cut corners or obstacles either to make it easier or "quicker". One of our local trails systems has had the same issues over the last 30 years, one example is a very technical trail that started as a very challenging singletrack has now morphed into an 8-12' wide dusty "highway" because instead of learning to ride tech, people take "easier" lines.

  • @Dankis_Kankis
    @Dankis_Kankis 2 года назад +5

    Probably the most anticipated review of the channel.

  • @rmorales1029
    @rmorales1029 Год назад +4

    Love your trail etiquette message. Keep it up!!!

  • @goatsplitter
    @goatsplitter 11 месяцев назад +1

    I've watched this video like 6 times over the last year ish or so and been eyeing this bike. I'm buying it today. So stoked. Appreciate your review to keep me goal oriented :)

    • @dailykoder7788
      @dailykoder7788 10 месяцев назад +1

      Great choice, mate! I bought mine in 2021 after my eMTB frame broke and I was just angry at the ebike ecosystem and getting new parts for it. Glad I got the money back and wanted to settle on something that always worked for me, a hardtail. And I love it. Up to this day I think it's the best thing that money could have bought me in my life. You can do "everything" with it. Downhill, Singletrails, Bikepacking, even Dirt Jumps.
      My tipp: Go tubeless asap (if you feel comfortable with usually maintaining it). It's a much better feeling.

    • @goatsplitter
      @goatsplitter 10 месяцев назад

      @@dailykoder7788 nice! Glad to hear! I went tubeless day one, and put carbon cranks on it from my Enduro bike (better use on the bike I'll be riding more). I also put a higher rise spank vibrocore handlebar on it to reduce some chop, and I like a higher rise bar anyway. I love it so far, admittedly I've only got to ride it once thanks to all the snow. It seems like such an amazing all rounder! Really appreciate your response! Nuke bros unite 🤘🏽🤓🤘🏽

  • @radirpok
    @radirpok 2 года назад +10

    Scout Gen 2 owner here - your review is spot on! One comment about the slack seat tube - it makes longer, mellower, marathon-style rides so much more tolerable. In Austria there are a lot of long stretches of gently elevating "schotter" tracks (you would probably call them fireroads) which you climb for an hour to gain 500-1000m of elevation. In other words, the Scout is not bad at being a gravel bike... Then once you get to the top, it gets down the much steeper DH tracks OK as well.
    I put an XC-style long nose saddle on it so I have no problems climbing steep stuff either. I think given the target audience and being a jack of all trades a slacker seat tube makes a lot of sense on this bike.

    • @richarde1355
      @richarde1355 2 года назад

      What year is considered a Gen 2?

    • @radirpok
      @radirpok 2 года назад

      @@richarde1355 I believe it was in 2015 when v1 appeared, in 2018 v2, and this year v3. If you search for "Nukeproof Scout XXXX" where XXXX is the year, you will find some reviews on various websites....

    • @kleib7715
      @kleib7715 2 года назад

      I also have the V2 2021 model. My son is on a XC team and I “help” with coaching using my scout. It’s noticeably not as efficient peddling but could be my set up. However, I do feel that when the trail gets steep, technical and fast, the frame really smooths out. I don’t have the $ to compare vast models so other frames could be better/worse.

  • @davidgreatestkingofisrael1181
    @davidgreatestkingofisrael1181 Год назад +2

    Blake from GMBN got me back to hardtails and obviously the Nukeproof. I’m going to buy the frame and build it myself. The frame on black with some of the parts in red is going to look great. Really appreciate your video. Glad you like the bike.

  • @kylepatton3346
    @kylepatton3346 2 года назад +14

    Great review Steve! 70mm BB drop and it ships with 2.35's! Wild spec, but sounds like it'd be a hoot on 2.6's. I have to say, for geo nerds Nukeproof is setting a new standard with their charts. Showing sagged and unsagged numbers is an amazing way to help customers figure out how their bike will compare and help people learn how geo changes as forks compress. Also gotta love the Tonka Truck vibe with the bright yellow paint and block letters lol.

  • @tomalbert3299
    @tomalbert3299 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for your really in depth and honest reviews! And also big shout out for your critics on how people treat the trails and environment. We also have that problem over here in the Black Forest.

  • @LordHolley
    @LordHolley 2 года назад +3

    Love the trails you're hitting today. Just hypnotized watching you go through them. I need to get my butt up to Sedona....(in Phx).

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +2

      You definitely do, it's a magical place.

  • @scottmcpeek4132
    @scottmcpeek4132 2 года назад +4

    Steve, watching you make light work of those rock moves reminds me I need to spend more time working on those skills. Nice review, sounds like a "My first enthusiast hardtail" hardtail, good performance-per-dollar proposition!

  • @fpeter01
    @fpeter01 2 года назад +4

    This frame looks amazing. Nowadays every car and bike frame use dark theme (black, grey).

  • @littledevilchris666
    @littledevilchris666 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have one, they are very versatile , done some DH/ enduro stuff on it, jumping and bike park stuff , I probably ride it more than my full sus at the moment

  • @TripZ-DnB
    @TripZ-DnB 2 года назад +1

    I've got the 2019 scout had it since new and it's a wicked peace of kit !

  • @lachcurtis5503
    @lachcurtis5503 2 года назад +1

    Your excitement and joy was much more apparent on the Big Al review. I’m going to build up a frame, was waiting for your review of this.
    Think I’ll stick with the Ragley frame

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +4

      I know what you mean. That said, a lot can affect the excitement of my reviews. If I had a long week with lots of miles and I'm tired, it's harder to stay excited for the review. There's a lot that goes into my emotional state when riding. Sometimes I get really excited about a bike and it shines through. Other times, it's a great bike, but due to other factors, the excitement doesn't come through. I definitely recommend paying attention to the way I describe the ride more than the excitement in my voice. That said, this bike didn't excite me like some other bikes.

  • @dadbod4life
    @dadbod4life Год назад

    Had to come back to this video to let you know I just ordered a 26" Nukeproof CubScout for my sons 9th birthday. It comes tomorrow. Im pretty excited!! Not as excited as he will be though!!

  • @asherb9756
    @asherb9756 2 года назад +2

    Love your videos, really in depth, technical and helpful.
    + good for you for knowing what's important and not riding the white line.

  • @tsalesto
    @tsalesto 2 года назад +7

    Actually I was looking at the geometry of the 27.5" version of the bike and thinking I could mullet that one. Choosing fork correctly that would probably ride fine and have just a bit higher BB height. Plus size tires work great on hardtails, usually :)

    • @jfrtbikgkdhjbeep9974
      @jfrtbikgkdhjbeep9974 2 года назад

      26" rear ? 26" f 27.5" rear with 2" longer forks? BALANCE BB Height

    • @kingrat738
      @kingrat738 2 года назад +3

      Think he means 29” front 🧐

  • @jasoniannone9675
    @jasoniannone9675 2 года назад +2

    Another great review. It's important for newer folks to acknowledge that you're riding enormous features well outside the daily realm of weekend warriors on a B bike. This bike is competent and will be a blast for anyone in the target demographic and budget. Nice riding as always, Steve. What views!
    A side note, that cockpit is bananas. The dropper lever and bars probably retail for more than the frame.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад

      The GoPro effect is real on this vid. Many of these features are really big in real life.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +2

      handlebars and dropper lever come in at $200.

    • @jasoniannone9675
      @jasoniannone9675 2 года назад

      They look expensive! Incredible value.

  • @GhostPicks
    @GhostPicks 2 года назад +4

    Ah my dream bike

  • @Eri94
    @Eri94 2 года назад +1

    I think for people who had the bike and is wanting to upgrade to a scout again, the frame price shock will come to a surprise. From $449 to $699 is so much money. I’m so glad you’re reviewing it since now I actually have to consider the price instead of the scout being a go to budget frame.

    • @fpeter01
      @fpeter01 2 года назад

      10 years ago you could buy a nice Al hardtail frame for 100. I am sure that bike frames have better geo and handling now, but they are almost unaffordable. I bought a high end full sus frame for 1100.

    • @bigslowbro
      @bigslowbro 2 года назад

      I built a 21' scout 290 earlier this year. Very happy I got the frame for $350 off of chain reaction. Hard tails are supposed to be cheap.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +4

      @@fpeter01 you could also buy gas for under $2/gal :)

  • @athishmarutharaj6001
    @athishmarutharaj6001 2 года назад +3

    Signle trak, when its a single track, gives a sense of speed that cant be felt on Flat sections with wide turns. Its like touge driving.

  • @joebikes
    @joebikes 2 года назад +12

    Love that comment on the white line. Stuff like that is just not worth it in my opinion. Not worth putting your life on the line. Anywho... great video! Love my Scout, I think my next bike will be the Reactor 😎

    • @rossimessi1
      @rossimessi1 2 года назад +1

      Yes he has common sense. I would not even walk that trail.

    • @shawnclone5143
      @shawnclone5143 2 года назад +3

      "I love my daughter and want to be around for her wedding day." This thought has influenced so many risk oriented decisions for me (dad to 3 little girls).

    • @danielfloyd9742
      @danielfloyd9742 2 года назад +4

      It's different when you're by yourself, but as soon as you add any significant other, you start to think about stuff like that a lot more. I'm married and don't have kids yet, but I've already started dialing back what I'm willing to ride.

    • @nightmareon.E53rdst
      @nightmareon.E53rdst 2 года назад +1

      Agree 100%, gotta know when to send it when you have a fam relying on you.

    • @nightmareon.E53rdst
      @nightmareon.E53rdst 2 года назад

      Love the swiss army knife example, totally agree. I own this bike because I have lots of other hobbies and its easy and reliable when I decide to hit the trails.

  • @daviddegea920
    @daviddegea920 2 года назад +5

    This yellow colour they've chosen is spot-on. My own bike is barely 3 mo and still I'm thinking of getting this yellow frame...

    • @eltonnanton7705
      @eltonnanton7705 2 года назад

      So am I.

    • @leokuo7127
      @leokuo7127 2 года назад

      Same here. I got the 2021 frame of this and yellow is very appealing. But after watching this review, I'll probably pass and get something else later on.

  • @GuyonaMoose
    @GuyonaMoose 2 года назад

    New sub been riding hardtails for over 20 years. hardtailgang baby, we’re a special breed! Party on

  • @Mikesbikerides
    @Mikesbikerides 2 года назад +5

    It's between this and the Ragley Big al.. Tough decision!
    I really like the way you explain what different geo actually does to the behavior of the bike. Learning a lot!

    • @hankpog3907
      @hankpog3907 2 года назад +6

      Having ridden both the current Big Al and the mk2 Scout 29, I would take the Ragley any day of the week. Better Geo, more compliant and comfortable, and better value for money in my opinion.
      I haven't ridden the new mk3 Scout yet, but it it hasn't changed all that much from the previous generation so I would still go for the Ragley.

    • @Mikesbikerides
      @Mikesbikerides 2 года назад +1

      @@hankpog3907 Thanks for the input! That'll certainly be considered :)

    • @madcapper6
      @madcapper6 2 года назад

      ​@@hankpog3907 Same thing apply with the Marley vs 27.5 Scout? I was considering possibly doing a Marley frame-up build.

    • @hankpog3907
      @hankpog3907 2 года назад +1

      @@madcapper6 I couldn't say with certainty, but I'm pretty sure the marley and big al share the same geo, so I would imagine they are very very similar aside from wheel size

    • @jasonbarber5834
      @jasonbarber5834 2 года назад

      @@hankpog3907 Agreed, I've had a Big Al for over a year now and it's very capable and comfortable. I've been on plenty of step and chunky stuff with it and I'm always smiling. I haven't ridden the Scout yet but I'll take compliance over stiffness any day. Not to mention the fun factor.

  • @mailananthk
    @mailananthk 2 года назад

    Thanks so much for this review. I was waiting for this nearly for 2 years so that you can compare scout and ragley. I was hell bent to see your review before i make my decision. I am going with ragley as frame is cheaper by almost 150 quid and more softer playful ride is a bonus. Again very much appreciate the review and hard work you put in for us

    • @Windband1
      @Windband1 2 года назад +1

      I'm a huge Nukeproof fan, but you'll love the Big Al. It's a little better bike overall. Super happy with mine.

  • @jaredd.3457
    @jaredd.3457 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the review! Help a lot on which bike we want to get🤙🏽

  • @chrisgenovese8188
    @chrisgenovese8188 2 года назад

    man, a two for one: a review about a bike im interested in, riding in my home town! thanks for the good info!

  • @Wrangzilla
    @Wrangzilla 2 года назад

    I have a 2021 Scout Pro, which was top of their line last year. Very happy with it.

  • @keemony
    @keemony Год назад +1

    Thanks for the great review! I would love to compare with Canyon Stoic 4.

  • @CopperCityPatriot
    @CopperCityPatriot 2 года назад

    Ordering that very model, to replace the void of the Ragley Big AL, purchased in May 2020, from Chain Reaction Cycles. Stolen in June 2020, from the porch. Using a Baron S1 front rim with 29x2.6 Butcher Grid tire, SixC 35 bar, Wellgo platform pedals(call'em cheap, but I find'em very reliable). And a couple Victagen headlights since night trail riding is my domain.

  • @MBdrummer3288
    @MBdrummer3288 Год назад

    You are the man Steve. You know what the hell you’re talking about too. I trust your opinions on these bikes. And boy do you get some choice frames! Lucky you! And you are a goat dude. You can climb like a maniac. And you don’t look like you’d be a killer climber, being on the slight huskier side (no offense dude. I am also on that side!). Hope the channel is doing well and keep the content coming. Thanks man 🙏🏻

  • @jakeq6713
    @jakeq6713 2 месяца назад

    Love u bro love your content keep up the grate work man

  • @chiefsilverback
    @chiefsilverback 2 года назад

    Just came back to this one after watching Blake Samson shred his Scout at Whistler. There's something about that screaming yellow frame that just makes me want one of these as an all purpose fun bike as an alternative to my Oiz TR.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +2

      Blake is a shredder. He could ride a shopping car and make it look good

  • @peniakfoto
    @peniakfoto 2 года назад

    wow, thanks for the honest review, i'm just a beginner in trail riding. despite the fact that I have a carbon high end xc full suspension bike (ghost lector fs) I spend most of my time on a relatively cheap octane one hooner, which I build myself because I wanted to try out how the bike is made. Riding the HT Octane One is much more fun, it is more stable in downhill and downhill, comfortable, fast (I gave me a light but durably rougher xc tires and inserts). If I had known this soon, I could have saved a lot of money for the Full suspension bike ...

  • @superawesomefuntimego
    @superawesomefuntimego 10 месяцев назад

    I decided to order up one of these to compliment my Canyon Strive CFR enduro rig. Specifically to mix it up on some of the less aggressive flow and jump trails or some slower single track where the Strive just feels like it is overkill. Picked up a new 2023 Scout RS model on sale for $1999, which seems like a great deal for GX drivetrain, 150mm Lyrik Select + and DT Swiss XM 1700 wheels. Kind of meh on the guide RE brakes, but they will do okay I think. It will be nice to have a hardtail again, have not had one for a couple years.

  • @iceman228dog
    @iceman228dog 2 года назад +1

    Review spot on. i have this bike and a ragley mmbop. The nukeproof is slightly stiffer than my ragley mmmbop. still love both bikes.i take my nukeproof on a day trip ride and the mmbop just to blast around in.

    • @joeevans266
      @joeevans266 2 года назад +1

      Hey Andy. I'm looking at both frames to build up. If you could only have one which would you choose? The mmmbop is a lot cheaper too. £280 for ragley £499 for the nukeproof here in the UK. Thanks.

    • @iceman228dog
      @iceman228dog 2 года назад

      @@joeevans266 I can ride both all day long. My mmmbop is a mullet. 29er up front to absorb all the bumps. Mmmbop frame is cheaper. The money you save on the frame can be used to upgrade other components. Mmmbop looks more aggressive.

  • @jasonrichmond7974
    @jasonrichmond7974 2 года назад

    Probably the most anticipated review I’ve seen you do. With that being said, I can appreciate the honesty you provided. There is so much hype around the scout and it has a massive following. I like how you broke down the use. Not great here and not great there, but good all around which makes it appealing. With that being said, if I was in the market for a new bike, I’d probably not consider the scout like I would’ve before. The Team Marin review had me wanting to buy one immediately but again not in the market just yet. Love the more budget bike reviews. Gotta get a Giant Fathom now. As always, great job and thank you.

  • @AfricaTwinRider
    @AfricaTwinRider 2 года назад

    Hi, I’m 6’2. I have a 18” Switch9er that I’ve always thought is a little to small for me. I’ve been looking a geo charts for ages and finally pulled the trigger on a new V3 XXL Scout frame. Built it up with 140mm Pikes and 35mm stem, 200mm dropper. It’s awesome, I love the longer reach (more room to move around) and the slightly longer chain stay. For my local xc loop it perfect 🤩. I’m really very happy with my decision. Keep up the great reviews 👍

  • @mds8676
    @mds8676 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for your fabulous content!
    Would love to see a shootout at lower price point bikes for mere mortals:
    Polygon Xtrada 7
    Canyon Stoic 2
    Cannondale Trail SE 4
    Virus Sentier
    Keep up the great work!

  • @SprSonik13
    @SprSonik13 2 года назад

    Thank you for the Lorax moment!!! it gets really old watching people with no regard for the trails completely change the landscape over the decades.

    • @SprSonik13
      @SprSonik13 2 года назад

      I also appreciate how you’re discussing geometry and set up as unique to the rider, not a one size fits all marketing blast that the newest is the best. I ride a 2018 Chameleon based on your reviews years ago, and even though I’m not in the market for a new bike I love watching your videos

  • @IWASRANSOMED
    @IWASRANSOMED Год назад

    I just got a Scout on liquidation for 50% off and I’m loving it! I’m coming from a Kona hardtail and man, this thing just rips in comparison. The large frame fits me perfectly and I can jump, corner, climb and pedal more easily on then Scout and it’s just more fun. Still love my Kona, but this thing is a blast.

    • @tsanders23
      @tsanders23 11 месяцев назад +1

      I've been eyeing the Kona Mahuna as it's currently 50% off ($599). But I've found the Scout 290 (29er) for $799 and free shipping. Making me rethink but my budget would be way more than maxed out for the scout.

    • @IWASRANSOMED
      @IWASRANSOMED 11 месяцев назад

      @@tsanders23 that's a killer deal on the Mahuna. The frame rides great on the trail and it comes with an air fork. It has longer reach than the Scout and the head tube is not as slack, but it flows really well on the single trail. Not designed for the fastest downhills, but if you're just getting your feet wet on MTB it's a great bike to start out with.

    • @tsanders23
      @tsanders23 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@IWASRANSOMED that's kind of what I was hoping to hear. Now to decide between the Kona Mahuna for $715 shipped and the Canyon Grand Canyon 5 for $550 shipped. Really leaning to the Canyon as I like the color better. 5he Mahuna is a less desirable plum color.

    • @IWASRANSOMED
      @IWASRANSOMED 11 месяцев назад

      You might be able to check out the Kona at a shop in your area. They sell through shops as well as direct to consumer so you can save on shipping that way. I've heard good things about the Grand Canyon but never ridden it myself. If you go for the cheaper option just make sure brakes, hubs and wheels are decent. If you really end up getting into MTB, you'll outgrow your wheel set quick.

  • @tombowman9463
    @tombowman9463 2 года назад

    Blake Sampson of GMBN describes his Scout 275 in much the same way: a do-anything, go-anywhere bike. He even rode Mega Avalanche on his! Great to see this basic assessment confirmed in comparison to so many other hardtails.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +4

      Blake is a fantastic rider. He's also sponsored by nukeproof and paid to ride their bikes.

    • @tombowman9463
      @tombowman9463 2 года назад

      @@hardtailparty all true, of course. You are a fantastic rider too.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +3

      @@tombowman9463 thank you, but i couldn't hang with Blake for 10 seconds.

    • @tombowman9463
      @tombowman9463 2 года назад +2

      @@hardtailparty I’m…who could?🤪

  • @vernalmaloy3992
    @vernalmaloy3992 2 года назад

    Thanks for the PSA. I was having similar thoughts while riding the Jem trail system yesterday. It's a shame.

  • @HissLikeSteam
    @HissLikeSteam 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the review! I’ve been seriously thinking about this bike too (I have a Roscoe on order) thanks for comparing the two. The Roscoe had “drag” and felt lethargic, this one was a little peppy. It’s a tough choice for me.

    • @urbantrail989
      @urbantrail989 2 года назад +1

      UrbanTrail9
      5 minutes ago
      Think the tyres fitted added to the drag he referenced on the Roscoe. He also mentioned the 2.6" smoothed out the down. He scored the Roscoe high for enjoyment btw. I have a 9 on order and this bike doesn't come close to a change of mind. People won't champion the Roscoe as some don't consider it elite or that the name doesn't carry the same gravitas as some brands but I believe for the money the new Roscoe looks a killa ride.
      Thanks Steve love all you do and I'm insanely jealous of the part of the world you ride your blessed my friend.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад

      it sounds like you'd benefit from my bike consultation service.

    • @hogsrmylifetbj
      @hogsrmylifetbj 2 года назад +1

      I was in the same boat 6 months ago. I was going to get the roscoe 7 but they were OOS until august. I went with a Nukeproof and haven’t regretted it at all. I agree it’s got plenty of pep. I think it’s more geared for jumps and climbing than it is for outright speed but it’s plenty quick for the riding I do. I did a race with it on 27.5 wheels and it does not keep up with XC bikes. The 29 might be okay but could be heavier than a carbon bike. If you have trouble deciding just keep in mind the Nukeproof is free returns in a year or trek in 30 days.

    • @HissLikeSteam
      @HissLikeSteam 2 года назад

      @@hogsrmylifetbj Thanks for your input. I have an XL Roscoe on order, but mine should be in next week. The XXL Scout has very similar geometry. I do hate pedal strikes, so the low BB of the scout has me a little worried, but I like the shorter seat tube. I may just support the local trek store and stick with the Roscoe. Apparently people who ordered the 7 were upgraded to the 8 (online forums sometimes lie tho), I don’t know why they didn’t upgrade me. I feel trek let me down there. Other companies were doing a lot better of a job keeping their customers happy. I heard good things about Trek, so I thought I would give them a shot. But my first impression isn’t a good one

  • @rossimessi1
    @rossimessi1 2 года назад +1

    Good review.
    Interesting how different it is to big al considering the geo is almost the same on a medium.
    Wish you had the 275 version though. As I have last years and it's a fun bike.

  • @RABmbls
    @RABmbls Год назад

    I think you should be on 275, little bit geo numbers difference but the effectivity prior to your height is significant, 5'6 can ride 290 but effectiveness is more on 275.

  • @hatrix11
    @hatrix11 2 года назад

    Speaking of Brit bikes. The guys in On One / Planet X have a crazy sale on the hello Dave frame. Especially in white (which I bought a month ago at $470 shipped to NY ) it’s now (in white) $231 frame $358 shipped to USA. Ughh I bought it too early it seems. It’s heavy as heck with a long CS. So manuals are tougher but it tracks well and actually climbs well (63 Ht 67 ST)
    For a budget build it’s not bad.
    They should send you one to review as a “type of budget build “
    Anyway love your channel
    HT for life !!!

    • @hatrix11
      @hatrix11 2 года назад

      Sorry my dyslexic butt got my numbers wrong on the geo 77 ST. And 63 instead of the 62 cause I’m running 130’s on the front (I listen to you :) ) instead of the crazy 150/160 forks

  • @CrossFitProject
    @CrossFitProject 2 года назад

    Love it, honest review. Thank you!

  • @William.N
    @William.N 2 года назад +4

    When I was choosing my first bike, it was between this (mk2) and the Ragley Big Al. I went with the Ragley largely based on your review. Looking at this review, I feel I made the right decision. Scout still looks like an amazing bike, though.
    I feel your comment re: the white line. I'm still no where near good enough to ride that but I wouldn't even consider it if I were.

    • @Windband1
      @Windband1 2 года назад +2

      I just built up a Big Al a couple of months ago, and I def think it is the better bike. you made the right call! And they're less expensive than the NP.

    • @iwantmyu2b
      @iwantmyu2b 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, I also pulled the trigger on a Big Al frame based on Steve's review and love the bike. I mounted a 140 fork and liked it, then I put on a 150 and love it. I'm 5'10" though, so my saddle is way higher than Steve's.

    • @Windband1
      @Windband1 2 года назад +1

      @@iwantmyu2b I'm 6' on a large Big Al with a 150. It's amazing. I live in the PNW and the big eats anything.

    • @iwantmyu2b
      @iwantmyu2b 2 года назад +2

      @@Windband1 Agreed. Give the Big Al a chunky downhill for lunch.

  • @sixate
    @sixate 2 года назад

    Another fantastic review. I think a swiss army knife type of bike is the best kind of bike for new riders. They need something easy to ride and can handle everything well.

  • @TommyBlazeHD
    @TommyBlazeHD 2 года назад

    I hiked in Sedona this past year. Scored a free red Carhart flannel too 😅

  • @endianAphones
    @endianAphones 2 года назад +2

    Hope you get experimental with the 27.5 frame!
    Did you ever think about reviewing electric hardtails? I never found one with modern geometry, but maybe there are some.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +3

      i don't have any plans to review ebikes. They're not allowed on the singletrack where I live, and they're not very appealing to me. I've ridden a few, but they're just not my jam.

  • @davidgordon9048
    @davidgordon9048 2 года назад +1

    That’s some impressive climbing. A couple of those spots are tough.

  • @davidspear6682
    @davidspear6682 2 года назад +1

    Amen on the unnecessary alternative routes on single track trails. The alternative routes often don't add anything, and they kake a mess.

  • @DrivingMatterMedia
    @DrivingMatterMedia 2 года назад

    I do like everything about this bike except for the low BB... I understand the thought behind the geo and that it is not really needed to raise it with the 29" wheels (compared to old 26-er specs but I like my tall BB so much on the trails. 55-60mm is just ideal with 29x2.4, or maybe 65 with shorter cranks.

  • @yetifanuk
    @yetifanuk 2 года назад

    Thanks for this, super helpful. Regards from London.

  • @RobGeary
    @RobGeary 2 года назад

    I just ordered a leftover 2021 290 scout race, Should be here in a couple days.

  • @xylopagus
    @xylopagus 2 года назад +1

    I had pedal strikes every ride with my gen 2 scout 290. At least once it caused an OTB!

    • @batstam
      @batstam 2 года назад +1

      hello. What travel is your fork? I have a gen 2 290 size XL with 140mm travel and I do not have this problem. Is yours 130mm??

    • @xylopagus
      @xylopagus 2 года назад +1

      @@batstam You’re onto something as it was the comp spec 130 fork!

  • @ssmtb
    @ssmtb 2 года назад

    Great review! I was kinda expecting this to be another flattering review, since I thought the bike would be very similar to the Big Al, excellent insights 👌
    I'm glad I didn't sell my Big Al frame when I bought a Nimble 9 frame, as you say the Big Al is definitely a special frame

  • @notree666
    @notree666 2 года назад

    Great review as usual.

  • @claytonjessup6163
    @claytonjessup6163 2 года назад

    Very good review as always !! I am probably going to be reaching out to you soon on For a frame upgrade . For my chameleon.

  • @andrewcrockford6151
    @andrewcrockford6151 2 года назад

    Good review i like a Nukeproof but im so glad i brought my Ragley i love a yellow bike

  • @mrdapaz7599
    @mrdapaz7599 2 года назад

    Hi there Steve, back in the days I was choosing between this frame and the Sonder transmitter. I went for the Sonder and past 2 and a half years by now I still love riding my choice.
    You should try the Sonder transmitter, if you haven’t yet!
    Keep on with the work.

  • @rupertbrock417
    @rupertbrock417 2 года назад

    Thanks for another great review. The scenery was particularly distracting in this one for some reason. I had to pause it a couple of times to admire the view.

  • @PepperandCaseysRV
    @PepperandCaseysRV 2 года назад

    Love you stuff.
    Thanks for helping pick the Big AL.
    Sending it off huge gaps and drops that scare the crap out of me. Actually not bad at all down black Diamond chunk compared to my transition spire full sus.

  • @walken199
    @walken199 2 года назад

    Great, great review! Thank you!

  • @lindonandlisa8114
    @lindonandlisa8114 2 года назад

    I'm so glad that you said that about the Whiteline so many mountain bikers act like heroes and receive like button nothing by the way I wish I could write as good as you thanks for all your great videos I'm hoping to get rid of my scalpel and get a spot rocker

  • @rossimessi1
    @rossimessi1 2 года назад +2

    29er always has more BB drop as the axles are higher. Hence less agile than 27.
    Now 29 is the cool size 90% of people are getting that size.
    a few years ago 90% of people would not be seen dead on 29!
    Physics has not changed in that time.
    Both are great but you should choose the one that suits where and how you intend to ride. Not which is in fashion.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +2

      I have a few videos on this topic. 29er vs 27.5 vs 27.5+ and which i recommend for different riders.

  • @gr8fulride
    @gr8fulride 2 года назад

    Was going to paint my 17 Marin nail trail 6 . Decided to the order a scout instead. Yellow XXL frame . Will build with my Marin parts. Should be a fun ride

    • @hjkhhjkh3635
      @hjkhhjkh3635 Год назад +1

      Is the frame big ? I ordered an Orbea Alma in XL and it was too big for me, I’m 6’4”. Nukeproof recommends XXL for me but it’s even longer than the Orbea. Not sure what to do. Even the XL in the Nukeproof is longer than the XL in the Orbea which was too big.

    • @gr8fulride
      @gr8fulride Год назад +1

      @@hjkhhjkh3635 yes. it's just right though. I rode a giant Yukon size large for years so you can size up or down depending on your style or where you ride. I tend to ride everywhere and this scout pretty much does it all quite well. I've got a Santa Cruz high tower size xxl that is not quite as big as the scout and an evil wreckoning size XL that is bigger than the scout. So yeah a lot of people my size a scout in XL would be fine . I appreciate the comfort of XXL especially on longer rides both trail and urban. It jumps really well and weighs in at about 30 lbs . I put protaper 80 mill rise bars on it , pnw 200 mill dropper . Lyric ultimate 160 . Race face turbine cranks 175 . I9 rims . Vittoria syerras 2.4 . Could use much more aggressive tires , but I use the bike on pavement and gravel quite a bit doing errands and traveling to and from trails. I rode a friend's fs orbea size large. He's also tall like 6'4" but he likes the bikes slightly smaller. It was super light like 25 lbs. Also felt comfortable on a quick trail ride. Too small for me though to ride longer distances.

    • @hjkhhjkh3635
      @hjkhhjkh3635 Год назад +1

      @@gr8fulride ok man, so if I ride L in Orbea, should I go L or XL with the scout? I have long legs but short torso and normal length arms.

    • @gr8fulride
      @gr8fulride Год назад

      @@hjkhhjkh3635 yeah that's kind of an easy answer for me as I value the fit of the bike for comfort as well as practical all round trail use. but from your perspective , I'm guessing large for you if you ride a lot of tighter twisty trails . XL for more gravity style trails. Putting a liner in the back tire was a huge improvement also. I used Vittoria air liner

    • @hjkhhjkh3635
      @hjkhhjkh3635 Год назад +1

      @@gr8fulride ok bro. I think I’ll go for the XL and see how it goes. I’ll keep you updated by replying to this 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @kilgoretrout25
    @kilgoretrout25 2 года назад +1

    At the 10:00 mark, there is definitely something written in the clouds.

  • @jonnywose2528
    @jonnywose2528 2 года назад +1

    Excellent review, I've been riding a first gen scout since about 2015 and I'm well overdue a replacement with a more modern geo. Are you lined up to review a Pipedream moxie? Beautiful frames

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад

      I've reviewed the Sirius at but not the moxie yet.

    • @richarde1355
      @richarde1355 2 года назад

      I just procured a 2015 Scout Comp, and it has a 32T chainring and an 11-36 cassette, shifting by X-7 derailleur. I need a cassette with a wider range. What are you running on your bike? Thanks in advance!

  • @michaelsernst
    @michaelsernst 2 года назад +2

    Can you revisit the Meta HT AM since they updated the new frame? Would be interested to hear your take maybe the Race level of components seems to compete on best value for stock components SLX and Fox 36.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +1

      If they want to send one in for review, I'll review it. There are so many amazing hardtaila out there these days, but a lot of people are stuck on canyon, nukeproof, and comnencal and don't look beyond them.

    • @michaelsernst
      @michaelsernst 2 года назад

      @@hardtailparty Understood, I've got no brand ties just trying to find the best spec'd bike that will cover my bases. looking forward to more reviews and content.

  • @jurisx85
    @jurisx85 2 года назад

    Hey, man. Great review, as ushhh. This review really took me back to that Orbea Laufy you reviewed a few years back. How would you say it compares to this. I remember you said something like If you don’t know what bike to get, get this one.

  • @outerbike
    @outerbike 2 года назад

    Nice - Nukeproof just signed on to exhibit at Outerbike Moab & Bentonville this year! We'll have to check in with them to see if the Scout 290 is part of their demo fleet. 🤞

  • @whatfreedom7
    @whatfreedom7 6 месяцев назад

    After that 7:00 mark that trails pretty steep. I’m surprised it gripped to make it up that.

  • @bitumen83
    @bitumen83 2 года назад

    I really like on that bike a size of head tube, it is massive!

  • @vitaflo
    @vitaflo 2 года назад

    I had to look up the BB height, 307mm. And given the sag on the 140mm fork on this thing, I can see why you had so many pedal strikes. That's a very low BB.

  • @Garage95Engineering
    @Garage95Engineering 2 года назад +1

    How would you compare the geometry with Trek Roscoe 7?

  • @jonathanhowson6420
    @jonathanhowson6420 Год назад

    Hey, looking at this as a winter hardtail for the UK. Its the colour that got me. Would you go 29 or 27.5? Shame they don't do a 297 version like the mega/giga. Also you like in an amazing place. I would love to head over and ride those trails one day (famous 'one day' saying). Have I seen you do a video on the V2 SC Bronson in pink (the rat boy signature frame)?
    Keep up the good work.

  • @midman6437
    @midman6437 2 года назад +1

    Hi, I'm about to buy this bike and would like to ask you: How would you compare it to Roscoe 9? - In Europe it's almost impossible to get Big Al or actually 90% of the "best bikes" on the market.

  • @shaunroach7829
    @shaunroach7829 2 года назад

    What a great in depth review of the bike!!! Great 👍 job Steve

  • @MrPurkk
    @MrPurkk 2 года назад +1

    You had lot of pedal strikes even with 165 cranks? They sell complete bikes with 170mm crankset :o

  • @zzzufo1
    @zzzufo1 2 года назад

    Such a nice review about the scout! Have you heared about the Norsest Bardino 3 ht frame? I would like to hear your opinion about that frame also :)

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад

      Yes, I've definitely heard of the bardono 3. Their bikes look very interesting on paper. I've reached out to them several times but haven't been able to get one in for review

  • @thatmtbguy5211
    @thatmtbguy5211 Год назад

    I’m thinking about replacing my 2019 roscoe 7 with a nukeproof scout frame

  • @joeanon8568
    @joeanon8568 Год назад

    I really appreciate your review! A year later, anything else you recommend in a similar "budget conscious, jack-of-all-trades" category? Any other of your review videos that you want to point out?

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  Год назад

      I do my bike consultations over on Patreon..I'd be happy to help make some personalized recommendations over there. Patreon.com/hardtailparty

  • @yazpik
    @yazpik 2 года назад

    Would be awesome if you do a review on the Canyon Stoic, pretty sure many people wants to see it.

    • @hardtailparty
      @hardtailparty  2 года назад +3

      I've been bugging them for over a year. No luck getting one.

  • @8o8ertmtb
    @8o8ertmtb Год назад

    Great video. Think this will be my next bike, got to decide between a M and L at 178cm height, right in the middle.

    • @danielwilson630
      @danielwilson630 Год назад

      What did you go for? Im having the same 1st world problems as you, think i might go for a medium

    • @8o8ertmtb
      @8o8ertmtb Год назад

      @@danielwilson630 I went for large, short 35mm stem and it fits like a glove

    • @dlk1255
      @dlk1255 Месяц назад

      Do you think a med would fit 5'10 or is it too small?

    • @8o8ertmtb
      @8o8ertmtb Месяц назад +1

      @@dlk1255 probably be fine just more playful. I'm not on mine anymore, got a full sus now, Scout frame collecting dust. Was a great bike.

  • @lawrencemuscat2263
    @lawrencemuscat2263 2 года назад

    Bit disapointed about the Scout being 'vanilla' as you put it. But it is what it is.

  • @crudolol
    @crudolol 2 года назад +1

    Hey what size would you recommend me with 181-182cm and 81 ST

  • @quarkidee2878
    @quarkidee2878 2 года назад

    My Stoics BB is so low I am constantly hitting my cranks XD.

  • @alabaster4263
    @alabaster4263 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video 📹

  • @Miguel-g1d6i
    @Miguel-g1d6i Год назад

    Okay I own a Norco storm 9.2 bought it brand new and like most beginners. I crashed tires kept deflating at the stem. I gave up! Been hanging in the shed for years now. Fyi bought the bike before I had a son. I have one now and he is 7. So I busted out the old MTB. So my question is. Do I sell and buy new nuke proof or up grade components. Like I have a 3 x 8 and I can get a one by.

  • @josmulder3060
    @josmulder3060 2 года назад

    Hi Steve, really dig this review. I bought the g2 290 Scout last year (it was very hard to get a bike full stop mid Covid here in Oz) and I'm pretty much a noob. The bike does everything you say and I greatly enjoy it on the many different tracks around here. Get it on the pump track, jumps (little ones) and flying down flow trails. It does hammer me a fair bit a times, that is a downside (it came with 2.6/2.5" tyres, I might look at some cushcore stuff). And pedal strokes a plenty. Perfect vehicle for learning the skills and I keep improving on a weekly basis. In short I feel this review is spot on, cheers.

    • @richarde1355
      @richarde1355 2 года назад

      How can I find the different generation years of the Scout?