Interested in picking my brain to know which bike i recommend for your trails and riding style? Here's a link to my bike consultation service: patreon.com/hardtailparty I know a lot of you are HUGE fans of the scout, and for many of you it's the best hardtail you've ridden. Many are hoping my reviews will be a validation the decision they made to purchase a certain bike. I totally get that. If you're happy with your bike and you think it's the greatest bike ever, then it shouldn't matter what i say about it. However, the purpose of bike reviews is to be objective and explain how a bike rides compared to the 70+ other modern hardtails I've ridden. A lot of people get defensive and like to attack me and question my findings if they didnt get the validation they were seeking. You're entitled to that, but i have zero ulterior motives in these reviews. I sincerely hope every hardtail i review blows my socks off and is the best bike I've ridden to date. So don't take it personally if your favorite bike isn't my favorite bike. In the end, if you have one of these and you love it, that's all that matters.
I should had paid for your service before pulling the plug the mark 2 version of this bike. Not totally a fan of it. I'm still trying to figure out how to make it comfortable like my old Chromag. I should had just gotten another Chromag, but they were out of stock and the Scout was available.
Your ability to talk through steep technical climbs is crazy impressive. Great review, appreciated the words about not widening trails. There are some challenges coming for this sport around our environmental impact as it continues to gain popularity and land erosion progresses over time. We should start thinking now about what it will take to be sustainable for another 50 years at least if we want our kids and grandkids to continue enjoying this sport.
At least in New England I'm wondering if there's going to be an interesting tension between widening existing trails to make them more accessible by adaptive vehicles versus keeping them more old school, or simply building more new trails designed to be adaptive from the start.
THANK YOU for putting out there that not everyone needs to takes great physical risks to be a serious rider. Stay safe out there, folks! Thoughtful and unpretentious as always. Doing the Patreon tomorrow!
After three months of owning a a 275 Scout comp , Steve's review is spot on. it laps up reds, blacks , trail centre's , commutes , local woods and naughty stuff. I never feel compromised in any situation . I watched a lot of Hardtail Party before buying this bike , up there with the best mtb content on RUclips.
Totally agree with you about trail conservation. Too many people, bikers and hikers, cut corners or obstacles either to make it easier or "quicker". One of our local trails systems has had the same issues over the last 30 years, one example is a very technical trail that started as a very challenging singletrack has now morphed into an 8-12' wide dusty "highway" because instead of learning to ride tech, people take "easier" lines.
Blake from GMBN got me back to hardtails and obviously the Nukeproof. I’m going to buy the frame and build it myself. The frame on black with some of the parts in red is going to look great. Really appreciate your video. Glad you like the bike.
I've watched this video like 6 times over the last year ish or so and been eyeing this bike. I'm buying it today. So stoked. Appreciate your review to keep me goal oriented :)
Great choice, mate! I bought mine in 2021 after my eMTB frame broke and I was just angry at the ebike ecosystem and getting new parts for it. Glad I got the money back and wanted to settle on something that always worked for me, a hardtail. And I love it. Up to this day I think it's the best thing that money could have bought me in my life. You can do "everything" with it. Downhill, Singletrails, Bikepacking, even Dirt Jumps. My tipp: Go tubeless asap (if you feel comfortable with usually maintaining it). It's a much better feeling.
@@dailykoder7788 nice! Glad to hear! I went tubeless day one, and put carbon cranks on it from my Enduro bike (better use on the bike I'll be riding more). I also put a higher rise spank vibrocore handlebar on it to reduce some chop, and I like a higher rise bar anyway. I love it so far, admittedly I've only got to ride it once thanks to all the snow. It seems like such an amazing all rounder! Really appreciate your response! Nuke bros unite 🤘🏽🤓🤘🏽
I rode 15.000 km on my Nukeproof scout in 1.5 years, i did everything with it, xc, trail, enduro and even long adventurous gravel/road rides, it was such a nice bike
Great review Steve! 70mm BB drop and it ships with 2.35's! Wild spec, but sounds like it'd be a hoot on 2.6's. I have to say, for geo nerds Nukeproof is setting a new standard with their charts. Showing sagged and unsagged numbers is an amazing way to help customers figure out how their bike will compare and help people learn how geo changes as forks compress. Also gotta love the Tonka Truck vibe with the bright yellow paint and block letters lol.
I have one, they are very versatile , done some DH/ enduro stuff on it, jumping and bike park stuff , I probably ride it more than my full sus at the moment
Scout Gen 2 owner here - your review is spot on! One comment about the slack seat tube - it makes longer, mellower, marathon-style rides so much more tolerable. In Austria there are a lot of long stretches of gently elevating "schotter" tracks (you would probably call them fireroads) which you climb for an hour to gain 500-1000m of elevation. In other words, the Scout is not bad at being a gravel bike... Then once you get to the top, it gets down the much steeper DH tracks OK as well. I put an XC-style long nose saddle on it so I have no problems climbing steep stuff either. I think given the target audience and being a jack of all trades a slacker seat tube makes a lot of sense on this bike.
@@richarde1355 I believe it was in 2015 when v1 appeared, in 2018 v2, and this year v3. If you search for "Nukeproof Scout XXXX" where XXXX is the year, you will find some reviews on various websites....
I also have the V2 2021 model. My son is on a XC team and I “help” with coaching using my scout. It’s noticeably not as efficient peddling but could be my set up. However, I do feel that when the trail gets steep, technical and fast, the frame really smooths out. I don’t have the $ to compare vast models so other frames could be better/worse.
Thanks for your really in depth and honest reviews! And also big shout out for your critics on how people treat the trails and environment. We also have that problem over here in the Black Forest.
Had to come back to this video to let you know I just ordered a 26" Nukeproof CubScout for my sons 9th birthday. It comes tomorrow. Im pretty excited!! Not as excited as he will be though!!
Your excitement and joy was much more apparent on the Big Al review. I’m going to build up a frame, was waiting for your review of this. Think I’ll stick with the Ragley frame
I know what you mean. That said, a lot can affect the excitement of my reviews. If I had a long week with lots of miles and I'm tired, it's harder to stay excited for the review. There's a lot that goes into my emotional state when riding. Sometimes I get really excited about a bike and it shines through. Other times, it's a great bike, but due to other factors, the excitement doesn't come through. I definitely recommend paying attention to the way I describe the ride more than the excitement in my voice. That said, this bike didn't excite me like some other bikes.
Steve, watching you make light work of those rock moves reminds me I need to spend more time working on those skills. Nice review, sounds like a "My first enthusiast hardtail" hardtail, good performance-per-dollar proposition!
It's between this and the Ragley Big al.. Tough decision! I really like the way you explain what different geo actually does to the behavior of the bike. Learning a lot!
Having ridden both the current Big Al and the mk2 Scout 29, I would take the Ragley any day of the week. Better Geo, more compliant and comfortable, and better value for money in my opinion. I haven't ridden the new mk3 Scout yet, but it it hasn't changed all that much from the previous generation so I would still go for the Ragley.
@@madcapper6 I couldn't say with certainty, but I'm pretty sure the marley and big al share the same geo, so I would imagine they are very very similar aside from wheel size
@@hankpog3907 Agreed, I've had a Big Al for over a year now and it's very capable and comfortable. I've been on plenty of step and chunky stuff with it and I'm always smiling. I haven't ridden the Scout yet but I'll take compliance over stiffness any day. Not to mention the fun factor.
I decided to order up one of these to compliment my Canyon Strive CFR enduro rig. Specifically to mix it up on some of the less aggressive flow and jump trails or some slower single track where the Strive just feels like it is overkill. Picked up a new 2023 Scout RS model on sale for $1999, which seems like a great deal for GX drivetrain, 150mm Lyrik Select + and DT Swiss XM 1700 wheels. Kind of meh on the guide RE brakes, but they will do okay I think. It will be nice to have a hardtail again, have not had one for a couple years.
Actually I was looking at the geometry of the 27.5" version of the bike and thinking I could mullet that one. Choosing fork correctly that would probably ride fine and have just a bit higher BB height. Plus size tires work great on hardtails, usually :)
Another great review. It's important for newer folks to acknowledge that you're riding enormous features well outside the daily realm of weekend warriors on a B bike. This bike is competent and will be a blast for anyone in the target demographic and budget. Nice riding as always, Steve. What views! A side note, that cockpit is bananas. The dropper lever and bars probably retail for more than the frame.
Love that comment on the white line. Stuff like that is just not worth it in my opinion. Not worth putting your life on the line. Anywho... great video! Love my Scout, I think my next bike will be the Reactor 😎
"I love my daughter and want to be around for her wedding day." This thought has influenced so many risk oriented decisions for me (dad to 3 little girls).
It's different when you're by yourself, but as soon as you add any significant other, you start to think about stuff like that a lot more. I'm married and don't have kids yet, but I've already started dialing back what I'm willing to ride.
Love the swiss army knife example, totally agree. I own this bike because I have lots of other hobbies and its easy and reliable when I decide to hit the trails.
Thanks so much for this review. I was waiting for this nearly for 2 years so that you can compare scout and ragley. I was hell bent to see your review before i make my decision. I am going with ragley as frame is cheaper by almost 150 quid and more softer playful ride is a bonus. Again very much appreciate the review and hard work you put in for us
Hi, I’m 6’2. I have a 18” Switch9er that I’ve always thought is a little to small for me. I’ve been looking a geo charts for ages and finally pulled the trigger on a new V3 XXL Scout frame. Built it up with 140mm Pikes and 35mm stem, 200mm dropper. It’s awesome, I love the longer reach (more room to move around) and the slightly longer chain stay. For my local xc loop it perfect 🤩. I’m really very happy with my decision. Keep up the great reviews 👍
Ordering that very model, to replace the void of the Ragley Big AL, purchased in May 2020, from Chain Reaction Cycles. Stolen in June 2020, from the porch. Using a Baron S1 front rim with 29x2.6 Butcher Grid tire, SixC 35 bar, Wellgo platform pedals(call'em cheap, but I find'em very reliable). And a couple Victagen headlights since night trail riding is my domain.
I think for people who had the bike and is wanting to upgrade to a scout again, the frame price shock will come to a surprise. From $449 to $699 is so much money. I’m so glad you’re reviewing it since now I actually have to consider the price instead of the scout being a go to budget frame.
10 years ago you could buy a nice Al hardtail frame for 100. I am sure that bike frames have better geo and handling now, but they are almost unaffordable. I bought a high end full sus frame for 1100.
Probably the most anticipated review I’ve seen you do. With that being said, I can appreciate the honesty you provided. There is so much hype around the scout and it has a massive following. I like how you broke down the use. Not great here and not great there, but good all around which makes it appealing. With that being said, if I was in the market for a new bike, I’d probably not consider the scout like I would’ve before. The Team Marin review had me wanting to buy one immediately but again not in the market just yet. Love the more budget bike reviews. Gotta get a Giant Fathom now. As always, great job and thank you.
I just got a Scout on liquidation for 50% off and I’m loving it! I’m coming from a Kona hardtail and man, this thing just rips in comparison. The large frame fits me perfectly and I can jump, corner, climb and pedal more easily on then Scout and it’s just more fun. Still love my Kona, but this thing is a blast.
I've been eyeing the Kona Mahuna as it's currently 50% off ($599). But I've found the Scout 290 (29er) for $799 and free shipping. Making me rethink but my budget would be way more than maxed out for the scout.
@@tsanders23 that's a killer deal on the Mahuna. The frame rides great on the trail and it comes with an air fork. It has longer reach than the Scout and the head tube is not as slack, but it flows really well on the single trail. Not designed for the fastest downhills, but if you're just getting your feet wet on MTB it's a great bike to start out with.
@@IWASRANSOMED that's kind of what I was hoping to hear. Now to decide between the Kona Mahuna for $715 shipped and the Canyon Grand Canyon 5 for $550 shipped. Really leaning to the Canyon as I like the color better. 5he Mahuna is a less desirable plum color.
You might be able to check out the Kona at a shop in your area. They sell through shops as well as direct to consumer so you can save on shipping that way. I've heard good things about the Grand Canyon but never ridden it myself. If you go for the cheaper option just make sure brakes, hubs and wheels are decent. If you really end up getting into MTB, you'll outgrow your wheel set quick.
You are the man Steve. You know what the hell you’re talking about too. I trust your opinions on these bikes. And boy do you get some choice frames! Lucky you! And you are a goat dude. You can climb like a maniac. And you don’t look like you’d be a killer climber, being on the slight huskier side (no offense dude. I am also on that side!). Hope the channel is doing well and keep the content coming. Thanks man 🙏🏻
I think you should be on 275, little bit geo numbers difference but the effectivity prior to your height is significant, 5'6 can ride 290 but effectiveness is more on 275.
Review spot on. i have this bike and a ragley mmbop. The nukeproof is slightly stiffer than my ragley mmmbop. still love both bikes.i take my nukeproof on a day trip ride and the mmbop just to blast around in.
Hey Andy. I'm looking at both frames to build up. If you could only have one which would you choose? The mmmbop is a lot cheaper too. £280 for ragley £499 for the nukeproof here in the UK. Thanks.
@@joeevans266 I can ride both all day long. My mmmbop is a mullet. 29er up front to absorb all the bumps. Mmmbop frame is cheaper. The money you save on the frame can be used to upgrade other components. Mmmbop looks more aggressive.
wow, thanks for the honest review, i'm just a beginner in trail riding. despite the fact that I have a carbon high end xc full suspension bike (ghost lector fs) I spend most of my time on a relatively cheap octane one hooner, which I build myself because I wanted to try out how the bike is made. Riding the HT Octane One is much more fun, it is more stable in downhill and downhill, comfortable, fast (I gave me a light but durably rougher xc tires and inserts). If I had known this soon, I could have saved a lot of money for the Full suspension bike ...
Same here. I got the 2021 frame of this and yellow is very appealing. But after watching this review, I'll probably pass and get something else later on.
Thanks for the review! I’ve been seriously thinking about this bike too (I have a Roscoe on order) thanks for comparing the two. The Roscoe had “drag” and felt lethargic, this one was a little peppy. It’s a tough choice for me.
UrbanTrail9 5 minutes ago Think the tyres fitted added to the drag he referenced on the Roscoe. He also mentioned the 2.6" smoothed out the down. He scored the Roscoe high for enjoyment btw. I have a 9 on order and this bike doesn't come close to a change of mind. People won't champion the Roscoe as some don't consider it elite or that the name doesn't carry the same gravitas as some brands but I believe for the money the new Roscoe looks a killa ride. Thanks Steve love all you do and I'm insanely jealous of the part of the world you ride your blessed my friend.
I was in the same boat 6 months ago. I was going to get the roscoe 7 but they were OOS until august. I went with a Nukeproof and haven’t regretted it at all. I agree it’s got plenty of pep. I think it’s more geared for jumps and climbing than it is for outright speed but it’s plenty quick for the riding I do. I did a race with it on 27.5 wheels and it does not keep up with XC bikes. The 29 might be okay but could be heavier than a carbon bike. If you have trouble deciding just keep in mind the Nukeproof is free returns in a year or trek in 30 days.
@@hogsrmylifetbj Thanks for your input. I have an XL Roscoe on order, but mine should be in next week. The XXL Scout has very similar geometry. I do hate pedal strikes, so the low BB of the scout has me a little worried, but I like the shorter seat tube. I may just support the local trek store and stick with the Roscoe. Apparently people who ordered the 7 were upgraded to the 8 (online forums sometimes lie tho), I don’t know why they didn’t upgrade me. I feel trek let me down there. Other companies were doing a lot better of a job keeping their customers happy. I heard good things about Trek, so I thought I would give them a shot. But my first impression isn’t a good one
Great review! I was kinda expecting this to be another flattering review, since I thought the bike would be very similar to the Big Al, excellent insights 👌 I'm glad I didn't sell my Big Al frame when I bought a Nimble 9 frame, as you say the Big Al is definitely a special frame
Speaking of Brit bikes. The guys in On One / Planet X have a crazy sale on the hello Dave frame. Especially in white (which I bought a month ago at $470 shipped to NY ) it’s now (in white) $231 frame $358 shipped to USA. Ughh I bought it too early it seems. It’s heavy as heck with a long CS. So manuals are tougher but it tracks well and actually climbs well (63 Ht 67 ST) For a budget build it’s not bad. They should send you one to review as a “type of budget build “ Anyway love your channel HT for life !!!
Sorry my dyslexic butt got my numbers wrong on the geo 77 ST. And 63 instead of the 62 cause I’m running 130’s on the front (I listen to you :) ) instead of the crazy 150/160 forks
Just came back to this one after watching Blake Samson shred his Scout at Whistler. There's something about that screaming yellow frame that just makes me want one of these as an all purpose fun bike as an alternative to my Oiz TR.
Another fantastic review. I think a swiss army knife type of bike is the best kind of bike for new riders. They need something easy to ride and can handle everything well.
Good review. Interesting how different it is to big al considering the geo is almost the same on a medium. Wish you had the 275 version though. As I have last years and it's a fun bike.
Love you stuff. Thanks for helping pick the Big AL. Sending it off huge gaps and drops that scare the crap out of me. Actually not bad at all down black Diamond chunk compared to my transition spire full sus.
Hey, looking at this as a winter hardtail for the UK. Its the colour that got me. Would you go 29 or 27.5? Shame they don't do a 297 version like the mega/giga. Also you like in an amazing place. I would love to head over and ride those trails one day (famous 'one day' saying). Have I seen you do a video on the V2 SC Bronson in pink (the rat boy signature frame)? Keep up the good work.
Blake Sampson of GMBN describes his Scout 275 in much the same way: a do-anything, go-anywhere bike. He even rode Mega Avalanche on his! Great to see this basic assessment confirmed in comparison to so many other hardtails.
Hope you get experimental with the 27.5 frame! Did you ever think about reviewing electric hardtails? I never found one with modern geometry, but maybe there are some.
i don't have any plans to review ebikes. They're not allowed on the singletrack where I live, and they're not very appealing to me. I've ridden a few, but they're just not my jam.
Thanks for your fabulous content! Would love to see a shootout at lower price point bikes for mere mortals: Polygon Xtrada 7 Canyon Stoic 2 Cannondale Trail SE 4 Virus Sentier Keep up the great work!
Nice - Nukeproof just signed on to exhibit at Outerbike Moab & Bentonville this year! We'll have to check in with them to see if the Scout 290 is part of their demo fleet. 🤞
Hi there Steve, back in the days I was choosing between this frame and the Sonder transmitter. I went for the Sonder and past 2 and a half years by now I still love riding my choice. You should try the Sonder transmitter, if you haven’t yet! Keep on with the work.
Thanks for another great review. The scenery was particularly distracting in this one for some reason. I had to pause it a couple of times to admire the view.
I do like everything about this bike except for the low BB... I understand the thought behind the geo and that it is not really needed to raise it with the 29" wheels (compared to old 26-er specs but I like my tall BB so much on the trails. 55-60mm is just ideal with 29x2.4, or maybe 65 with shorter cranks.
Hey, man. Great review, as ushhh. This review really took me back to that Orbea Laufy you reviewed a few years back. How would you say it compares to this. I remember you said something like If you don’t know what bike to get, get this one.
I really appreciate your review! A year later, anything else you recommend in a similar "budget conscious, jack-of-all-trades" category? Any other of your review videos that you want to point out?
I also appreciate how you’re discussing geometry and set up as unique to the rider, not a one size fits all marketing blast that the newest is the best. I ride a 2018 Chameleon based on your reviews years ago, and even though I’m not in the market for a new bike I love watching your videos
Was going to paint my 17 Marin nail trail 6 . Decided to the order a scout instead. Yellow XXL frame . Will build with my Marin parts. Should be a fun ride
Is the frame big ? I ordered an Orbea Alma in XL and it was too big for me, I’m 6’4”. Nukeproof recommends XXL for me but it’s even longer than the Orbea. Not sure what to do. Even the XL in the Nukeproof is longer than the XL in the Orbea which was too big.
@@hjkhhjkh3635 yes. it's just right though. I rode a giant Yukon size large for years so you can size up or down depending on your style or where you ride. I tend to ride everywhere and this scout pretty much does it all quite well. I've got a Santa Cruz high tower size xxl that is not quite as big as the scout and an evil wreckoning size XL that is bigger than the scout. So yeah a lot of people my size a scout in XL would be fine . I appreciate the comfort of XXL especially on longer rides both trail and urban. It jumps really well and weighs in at about 30 lbs . I put protaper 80 mill rise bars on it , pnw 200 mill dropper . Lyric ultimate 160 . Race face turbine cranks 175 . I9 rims . Vittoria syerras 2.4 . Could use much more aggressive tires , but I use the bike on pavement and gravel quite a bit doing errands and traveling to and from trails. I rode a friend's fs orbea size large. He's also tall like 6'4" but he likes the bikes slightly smaller. It was super light like 25 lbs. Also felt comfortable on a quick trail ride. Too small for me though to ride longer distances.
@@hjkhhjkh3635 yeah that's kind of an easy answer for me as I value the fit of the bike for comfort as well as practical all round trail use. but from your perspective , I'm guessing large for you if you ride a lot of tighter twisty trails . XL for more gravity style trails. Putting a liner in the back tire was a huge improvement also. I used Vittoria air liner
Can you revisit the Meta HT AM since they updated the new frame? Would be interested to hear your take maybe the Race level of components seems to compete on best value for stock components SLX and Fox 36.
If they want to send one in for review, I'll review it. There are so many amazing hardtaila out there these days, but a lot of people are stuck on canyon, nukeproof, and comnencal and don't look beyond them.
@@hardtailparty Understood, I've got no brand ties just trying to find the best spec'd bike that will cover my bases. looking forward to more reviews and content.
Excellent review, I've been riding a first gen scout since about 2015 and I'm well overdue a replacement with a more modern geo. Are you lined up to review a Pipedream moxie? Beautiful frames
I just procured a 2015 Scout Comp, and it has a 32T chainring and an 11-36 cassette, shifting by X-7 derailleur. I need a cassette with a wider range. What are you running on your bike? Thanks in advance!
Yes, I've definitely heard of the bardono 3. Their bikes look very interesting on paper. I've reached out to them several times but haven't been able to get one in for review
When I was choosing my first bike, it was between this (mk2) and the Ragley Big Al. I went with the Ragley largely based on your review. Looking at this review, I feel I made the right decision. Scout still looks like an amazing bike, though. I feel your comment re: the white line. I'm still no where near good enough to ride that but I wouldn't even consider it if I were.
I just built up a Big Al a couple of months ago, and I def think it is the better bike. you made the right call! And they're less expensive than the NP.
Yeah, I also pulled the trigger on a Big Al frame based on Steve's review and love the bike. I mounted a 140 fork and liked it, then I put on a 150 and love it. I'm 5'10" though, so my saddle is way higher than Steve's.
I'm so glad that you said that about the Whiteline so many mountain bikers act like heroes and receive like button nothing by the way I wish I could write as good as you thanks for all your great videos I'm hoping to get rid of my scalpel and get a spot rocker
I see those pink jeeps and I hear you talking about trail widening....🤔. Seems like every time I go to the sinkhole or soldiers pass there's a family from texas in a rented 4x4.
The pink jeeps are fantastic at sticking to the trail. Those drivers are some of our most respectful trail users. I think we have a responsibility to keep singletrack single. I feel like there's a place for motorized doubletrack in some parts, singletrack mtb in other parts and hiking only wilderness on others. It's all a balance.
I picked the v3 290 up to try after this vid. I just find it a bit bland tbh ride feel wise. I would stick with the 27.5 on the Scout. Way more fun on any trail. Thanks for the review. Let us know how you get on with the 27.5.
Hi Steve, really dig this review. I bought the g2 290 Scout last year (it was very hard to get a bike full stop mid Covid here in Oz) and I'm pretty much a noob. The bike does everything you say and I greatly enjoy it on the many different tracks around here. Get it on the pump track, jumps (little ones) and flying down flow trails. It does hammer me a fair bit a times, that is a downside (it came with 2.6/2.5" tyres, I might look at some cushcore stuff). And pedal strokes a plenty. Perfect vehicle for learning the skills and I keep improving on a weekly basis. In short I feel this review is spot on, cheers.
Okay I own a Norco storm 9.2 bought it brand new and like most beginners. I crashed tires kept deflating at the stem. I gave up! Been hanging in the shed for years now. Fyi bought the bike before I had a son. I have one now and he is 7. So I busted out the old MTB. So my question is. Do I sell and buy new nuke proof or up grade components. Like I have a 3 x 8 and I can get a one by.
Hi, I'm about to buy this bike and would like to ask you: How would you compare it to Roscoe 9? - In Europe it's almost impossible to get Big Al or actually 90% of the "best bikes" on the market.
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I know a lot of you are HUGE fans of the scout, and for many of you it's the best hardtail you've ridden. Many are hoping my reviews will be a validation the decision they made to purchase a certain bike. I totally get that. If you're happy with your bike and you think it's the greatest bike ever, then it shouldn't matter what i say about it.
However, the purpose of bike reviews is to be objective and explain how a bike rides compared to the 70+ other modern hardtails I've ridden. A lot of people get defensive and like to attack me and question my findings if they didnt get the validation they were seeking. You're entitled to that, but i have zero ulterior motives in these reviews. I sincerely hope every hardtail i review blows my socks off and is the best bike I've ridden to date. So don't take it personally if your favorite bike isn't my favorite bike.
In the end, if you have one of these and you love it, that's all that matters.
I should had paid for your service before pulling the plug the mark 2 version of this bike. Not totally a fan of it. I'm still trying to figure out how to make it comfortable like my old Chromag. I should had just gotten another Chromag, but they were out of stock and the Scout was available.
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Thank you for your take on the Scout Steve 🤘 Look forward to a trip to the USA and hopefully get out for a rip with you on the Scout.
Let's make it happen, can't wait.
What’s happening to the company now? Are they going bust?
How can I get a Scout in Sweden!?
@@AIK.1891 eBay UK
@@syms85yes . But I pick one before they went out
Your ability to talk through steep technical climbs is crazy impressive. Great review, appreciated the words about not widening trails. There are some challenges coming for this sport around our environmental impact as it continues to gain popularity and land erosion progresses over time. We should start thinking now about what it will take to be sustainable for another 50 years at least if we want our kids and grandkids to continue enjoying this sport.
100% agree about thinking about the long-term effects of how we ride these trails.
@@hardtailparty Very impressive indeed
At least in New England I'm wondering if there's going to be an interesting tension between widening existing trails to make them more accessible by adaptive vehicles versus keeping them more old school, or simply building more new trails designed to be adaptive from the start.
Yeah man, he is an absolute goat! It’s unbelievable. I’d be so freaking gassed I couldn’t speak a word and huffing and puffing my brains out!
I totally agree with your PSA about trail conservation. Respect your surroundings.
THANK YOU for putting out there that not everyone needs to takes great physical risks to be a serious rider. Stay safe out there, folks! Thoughtful and unpretentious as always. Doing the Patreon tomorrow!
After three months of owning a a 275 Scout comp , Steve's review is spot on. it laps up reds, blacks , trail centre's , commutes , local woods and naughty stuff. I never feel compromised in any situation . I watched a lot of Hardtail Party before buying this bike , up there with the best mtb content on RUclips.
I'm glad you're loving yours. I need to eat the 27.5 sometime
Probably the most anticipated review of the channel.
Totally agree with you about trail conservation. Too many people, bikers and hikers, cut corners or obstacles either to make it easier or "quicker". One of our local trails systems has had the same issues over the last 30 years, one example is a very technical trail that started as a very challenging singletrack has now morphed into an 8-12' wide dusty "highway" because instead of learning to ride tech, people take "easier" lines.
It's so sad to see.
Blake from GMBN got me back to hardtails and obviously the Nukeproof. I’m going to buy the frame and build it myself. The frame on black with some of the parts in red is going to look great. Really appreciate your video. Glad you like the bike.
I've watched this video like 6 times over the last year ish or so and been eyeing this bike. I'm buying it today. So stoked. Appreciate your review to keep me goal oriented :)
Great choice, mate! I bought mine in 2021 after my eMTB frame broke and I was just angry at the ebike ecosystem and getting new parts for it. Glad I got the money back and wanted to settle on something that always worked for me, a hardtail. And I love it. Up to this day I think it's the best thing that money could have bought me in my life. You can do "everything" with it. Downhill, Singletrails, Bikepacking, even Dirt Jumps.
My tipp: Go tubeless asap (if you feel comfortable with usually maintaining it). It's a much better feeling.
@@dailykoder7788 nice! Glad to hear! I went tubeless day one, and put carbon cranks on it from my Enduro bike (better use on the bike I'll be riding more). I also put a higher rise spank vibrocore handlebar on it to reduce some chop, and I like a higher rise bar anyway. I love it so far, admittedly I've only got to ride it once thanks to all the snow. It seems like such an amazing all rounder! Really appreciate your response! Nuke bros unite 🤘🏽🤓🤘🏽
Love your trail etiquette message. Keep it up!!!
I rode 15.000 km on my Nukeproof scout in 1.5 years, i did everything with it, xc, trail, enduro and even long adventurous gravel/road rides, it was such a nice bike
@@alzaisnekram2167 that's seriously impressive to put that many KMs on a bike in such a short time. nice work!
Great review Steve! 70mm BB drop and it ships with 2.35's! Wild spec, but sounds like it'd be a hoot on 2.6's. I have to say, for geo nerds Nukeproof is setting a new standard with their charts. Showing sagged and unsagged numbers is an amazing way to help customers figure out how their bike will compare and help people learn how geo changes as forks compress. Also gotta love the Tonka Truck vibe with the bright yellow paint and block letters lol.
I have one, they are very versatile , done some DH/ enduro stuff on it, jumping and bike park stuff , I probably ride it more than my full sus at the moment
Love the trails you're hitting today. Just hypnotized watching you go through them. I need to get my butt up to Sedona....(in Phx).
You definitely do, it's a magical place.
Scout Gen 2 owner here - your review is spot on! One comment about the slack seat tube - it makes longer, mellower, marathon-style rides so much more tolerable. In Austria there are a lot of long stretches of gently elevating "schotter" tracks (you would probably call them fireroads) which you climb for an hour to gain 500-1000m of elevation. In other words, the Scout is not bad at being a gravel bike... Then once you get to the top, it gets down the much steeper DH tracks OK as well.
I put an XC-style long nose saddle on it so I have no problems climbing steep stuff either. I think given the target audience and being a jack of all trades a slacker seat tube makes a lot of sense on this bike.
What year is considered a Gen 2?
@@richarde1355 I believe it was in 2015 when v1 appeared, in 2018 v2, and this year v3. If you search for "Nukeproof Scout XXXX" where XXXX is the year, you will find some reviews on various websites....
I also have the V2 2021 model. My son is on a XC team and I “help” with coaching using my scout. It’s noticeably not as efficient peddling but could be my set up. However, I do feel that when the trail gets steep, technical and fast, the frame really smooths out. I don’t have the $ to compare vast models so other frames could be better/worse.
Thanks for your really in depth and honest reviews! And also big shout out for your critics on how people treat the trails and environment. We also have that problem over here in the Black Forest.
Had to come back to this video to let you know I just ordered a 26" Nukeproof CubScout for my sons 9th birthday. It comes tomorrow. Im pretty excited!! Not as excited as he will be though!!
Your excitement and joy was much more apparent on the Big Al review. I’m going to build up a frame, was waiting for your review of this.
Think I’ll stick with the Ragley frame
I know what you mean. That said, a lot can affect the excitement of my reviews. If I had a long week with lots of miles and I'm tired, it's harder to stay excited for the review. There's a lot that goes into my emotional state when riding. Sometimes I get really excited about a bike and it shines through. Other times, it's a great bike, but due to other factors, the excitement doesn't come through. I definitely recommend paying attention to the way I describe the ride more than the excitement in my voice. That said, this bike didn't excite me like some other bikes.
Steve, watching you make light work of those rock moves reminds me I need to spend more time working on those skills. Nice review, sounds like a "My first enthusiast hardtail" hardtail, good performance-per-dollar proposition!
I've got the 2019 scout had it since new and it's a wicked peace of kit !
Love your videos, really in depth, technical and helpful.
+ good for you for knowing what's important and not riding the white line.
New sub been riding hardtails for over 20 years. hardtailgang baby, we’re a special breed! Party on
Welcome!
Thanks for the review! Help a lot on which bike we want to get🤙🏽
Ah my dream bike
It's between this and the Ragley Big al.. Tough decision!
I really like the way you explain what different geo actually does to the behavior of the bike. Learning a lot!
Having ridden both the current Big Al and the mk2 Scout 29, I would take the Ragley any day of the week. Better Geo, more compliant and comfortable, and better value for money in my opinion.
I haven't ridden the new mk3 Scout yet, but it it hasn't changed all that much from the previous generation so I would still go for the Ragley.
@@hankpog3907 Thanks for the input! That'll certainly be considered :)
@@hankpog3907 Same thing apply with the Marley vs 27.5 Scout? I was considering possibly doing a Marley frame-up build.
@@madcapper6 I couldn't say with certainty, but I'm pretty sure the marley and big al share the same geo, so I would imagine they are very very similar aside from wheel size
@@hankpog3907 Agreed, I've had a Big Al for over a year now and it's very capable and comfortable. I've been on plenty of step and chunky stuff with it and I'm always smiling. I haven't ridden the Scout yet but I'll take compliance over stiffness any day. Not to mention the fun factor.
I decided to order up one of these to compliment my Canyon Strive CFR enduro rig. Specifically to mix it up on some of the less aggressive flow and jump trails or some slower single track where the Strive just feels like it is overkill. Picked up a new 2023 Scout RS model on sale for $1999, which seems like a great deal for GX drivetrain, 150mm Lyrik Select + and DT Swiss XM 1700 wheels. Kind of meh on the guide RE brakes, but they will do okay I think. It will be nice to have a hardtail again, have not had one for a couple years.
This frame looks amazing. Nowadays every car and bike frame use dark theme (black, grey).
Love u bro love your content keep up the grate work man
Actually I was looking at the geometry of the 27.5" version of the bike and thinking I could mullet that one. Choosing fork correctly that would probably ride fine and have just a bit higher BB height. Plus size tires work great on hardtails, usually :)
26" rear ? 26" f 27.5" rear with 2" longer forks? BALANCE BB Height
Think he means 29” front 🧐
Another great review. It's important for newer folks to acknowledge that you're riding enormous features well outside the daily realm of weekend warriors on a B bike. This bike is competent and will be a blast for anyone in the target demographic and budget. Nice riding as always, Steve. What views!
A side note, that cockpit is bananas. The dropper lever and bars probably retail for more than the frame.
The GoPro effect is real on this vid. Many of these features are really big in real life.
handlebars and dropper lever come in at $200.
They look expensive! Incredible value.
Love that comment on the white line. Stuff like that is just not worth it in my opinion. Not worth putting your life on the line. Anywho... great video! Love my Scout, I think my next bike will be the Reactor 😎
Yes he has common sense. I would not even walk that trail.
"I love my daughter and want to be around for her wedding day." This thought has influenced so many risk oriented decisions for me (dad to 3 little girls).
It's different when you're by yourself, but as soon as you add any significant other, you start to think about stuff like that a lot more. I'm married and don't have kids yet, but I've already started dialing back what I'm willing to ride.
Agree 100%, gotta know when to send it when you have a fam relying on you.
Love the swiss army knife example, totally agree. I own this bike because I have lots of other hobbies and its easy and reliable when I decide to hit the trails.
Thanks so much for this review. I was waiting for this nearly for 2 years so that you can compare scout and ragley. I was hell bent to see your review before i make my decision. I am going with ragley as frame is cheaper by almost 150 quid and more softer playful ride is a bonus. Again very much appreciate the review and hard work you put in for us
I'm a huge Nukeproof fan, but you'll love the Big Al. It's a little better bike overall. Super happy with mine.
Hi, I’m 6’2. I have a 18” Switch9er that I’ve always thought is a little to small for me. I’ve been looking a geo charts for ages and finally pulled the trigger on a new V3 XXL Scout frame. Built it up with 140mm Pikes and 35mm stem, 200mm dropper. It’s awesome, I love the longer reach (more room to move around) and the slightly longer chain stay. For my local xc loop it perfect 🤩. I’m really very happy with my decision. Keep up the great reviews 👍
Congrats!
man, a two for one: a review about a bike im interested in, riding in my home town! thanks for the good info!
Thanks for the great review! I would love to compare with Canyon Stoic 4.
I have a 2021 Scout Pro, which was top of their line last year. Very happy with it.
Glad to hear it!
Ordering that very model, to replace the void of the Ragley Big AL, purchased in May 2020, from Chain Reaction Cycles. Stolen in June 2020, from the porch. Using a Baron S1 front rim with 29x2.6 Butcher Grid tire, SixC 35 bar, Wellgo platform pedals(call'em cheap, but I find'em very reliable). And a couple Victagen headlights since night trail riding is my domain.
I think for people who had the bike and is wanting to upgrade to a scout again, the frame price shock will come to a surprise. From $449 to $699 is so much money. I’m so glad you’re reviewing it since now I actually have to consider the price instead of the scout being a go to budget frame.
10 years ago you could buy a nice Al hardtail frame for 100. I am sure that bike frames have better geo and handling now, but they are almost unaffordable. I bought a high end full sus frame for 1100.
I built a 21' scout 290 earlier this year. Very happy I got the frame for $350 off of chain reaction. Hard tails are supposed to be cheap.
@@fpeter01 you could also buy gas for under $2/gal :)
Probably the most anticipated review I’ve seen you do. With that being said, I can appreciate the honesty you provided. There is so much hype around the scout and it has a massive following. I like how you broke down the use. Not great here and not great there, but good all around which makes it appealing. With that being said, if I was in the market for a new bike, I’d probably not consider the scout like I would’ve before. The Team Marin review had me wanting to buy one immediately but again not in the market just yet. Love the more budget bike reviews. Gotta get a Giant Fathom now. As always, great job and thank you.
I just got a Scout on liquidation for 50% off and I’m loving it! I’m coming from a Kona hardtail and man, this thing just rips in comparison. The large frame fits me perfectly and I can jump, corner, climb and pedal more easily on then Scout and it’s just more fun. Still love my Kona, but this thing is a blast.
I've been eyeing the Kona Mahuna as it's currently 50% off ($599). But I've found the Scout 290 (29er) for $799 and free shipping. Making me rethink but my budget would be way more than maxed out for the scout.
@@tsanders23 that's a killer deal on the Mahuna. The frame rides great on the trail and it comes with an air fork. It has longer reach than the Scout and the head tube is not as slack, but it flows really well on the single trail. Not designed for the fastest downhills, but if you're just getting your feet wet on MTB it's a great bike to start out with.
@@IWASRANSOMED that's kind of what I was hoping to hear. Now to decide between the Kona Mahuna for $715 shipped and the Canyon Grand Canyon 5 for $550 shipped. Really leaning to the Canyon as I like the color better. 5he Mahuna is a less desirable plum color.
You might be able to check out the Kona at a shop in your area. They sell through shops as well as direct to consumer so you can save on shipping that way. I've heard good things about the Grand Canyon but never ridden it myself. If you go for the cheaper option just make sure brakes, hubs and wheels are decent. If you really end up getting into MTB, you'll outgrow your wheel set quick.
You are the man Steve. You know what the hell you’re talking about too. I trust your opinions on these bikes. And boy do you get some choice frames! Lucky you! And you are a goat dude. You can climb like a maniac. And you don’t look like you’d be a killer climber, being on the slight huskier side (no offense dude. I am also on that side!). Hope the channel is doing well and keep the content coming. Thanks man 🙏🏻
I think you should be on 275, little bit geo numbers difference but the effectivity prior to your height is significant, 5'6 can ride 290 but effectiveness is more on 275.
Review spot on. i have this bike and a ragley mmbop. The nukeproof is slightly stiffer than my ragley mmmbop. still love both bikes.i take my nukeproof on a day trip ride and the mmbop just to blast around in.
Hey Andy. I'm looking at both frames to build up. If you could only have one which would you choose? The mmmbop is a lot cheaper too. £280 for ragley £499 for the nukeproof here in the UK. Thanks.
@@joeevans266 I can ride both all day long. My mmmbop is a mullet. 29er up front to absorb all the bumps. Mmmbop frame is cheaper. The money you save on the frame can be used to upgrade other components. Mmmbop looks more aggressive.
wow, thanks for the honest review, i'm just a beginner in trail riding. despite the fact that I have a carbon high end xc full suspension bike (ghost lector fs) I spend most of my time on a relatively cheap octane one hooner, which I build myself because I wanted to try out how the bike is made. Riding the HT Octane One is much more fun, it is more stable in downhill and downhill, comfortable, fast (I gave me a light but durably rougher xc tires and inserts). If I had known this soon, I could have saved a lot of money for the Full suspension bike ...
This yellow colour they've chosen is spot-on. My own bike is barely 3 mo and still I'm thinking of getting this yellow frame...
So am I.
Same here. I got the 2021 frame of this and yellow is very appealing. But after watching this review, I'll probably pass and get something else later on.
Thanks for the review! I’ve been seriously thinking about this bike too (I have a Roscoe on order) thanks for comparing the two. The Roscoe had “drag” and felt lethargic, this one was a little peppy. It’s a tough choice for me.
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Think the tyres fitted added to the drag he referenced on the Roscoe. He also mentioned the 2.6" smoothed out the down. He scored the Roscoe high for enjoyment btw. I have a 9 on order and this bike doesn't come close to a change of mind. People won't champion the Roscoe as some don't consider it elite or that the name doesn't carry the same gravitas as some brands but I believe for the money the new Roscoe looks a killa ride.
Thanks Steve love all you do and I'm insanely jealous of the part of the world you ride your blessed my friend.
it sounds like you'd benefit from my bike consultation service.
I was in the same boat 6 months ago. I was going to get the roscoe 7 but they were OOS until august. I went with a Nukeproof and haven’t regretted it at all. I agree it’s got plenty of pep. I think it’s more geared for jumps and climbing than it is for outright speed but it’s plenty quick for the riding I do. I did a race with it on 27.5 wheels and it does not keep up with XC bikes. The 29 might be okay but could be heavier than a carbon bike. If you have trouble deciding just keep in mind the Nukeproof is free returns in a year or trek in 30 days.
@@hogsrmylifetbj Thanks for your input. I have an XL Roscoe on order, but mine should be in next week. The XXL Scout has very similar geometry. I do hate pedal strikes, so the low BB of the scout has me a little worried, but I like the shorter seat tube. I may just support the local trek store and stick with the Roscoe. Apparently people who ordered the 7 were upgraded to the 8 (online forums sometimes lie tho), I don’t know why they didn’t upgrade me. I feel trek let me down there. Other companies were doing a lot better of a job keeping their customers happy. I heard good things about Trek, so I thought I would give them a shot. But my first impression isn’t a good one
Great review! I was kinda expecting this to be another flattering review, since I thought the bike would be very similar to the Big Al, excellent insights 👌
I'm glad I didn't sell my Big Al frame when I bought a Nimble 9 frame, as you say the Big Al is definitely a special frame
Signle trak, when its a single track, gives a sense of speed that cant be felt on Flat sections with wide turns. Its like touge driving.
Speaking of Brit bikes. The guys in On One / Planet X have a crazy sale on the hello Dave frame. Especially in white (which I bought a month ago at $470 shipped to NY ) it’s now (in white) $231 frame $358 shipped to USA. Ughh I bought it too early it seems. It’s heavy as heck with a long CS. So manuals are tougher but it tracks well and actually climbs well (63 Ht 67 ST)
For a budget build it’s not bad.
They should send you one to review as a “type of budget build “
Anyway love your channel
HT for life !!!
Sorry my dyslexic butt got my numbers wrong on the geo 77 ST. And 63 instead of the 62 cause I’m running 130’s on the front (I listen to you :) ) instead of the crazy 150/160 forks
Just came back to this one after watching Blake Samson shred his Scout at Whistler. There's something about that screaming yellow frame that just makes me want one of these as an all purpose fun bike as an alternative to my Oiz TR.
Blake is a shredder. He could ride a shopping car and make it look good
Love it, honest review. Thank you!
Thanks for the PSA. I was having similar thoughts while riding the Jem trail system yesterday. It's a shame.
Great review as usual.
Very good review as always !! I am probably going to be reaching out to you soon on For a frame upgrade . For my chameleon.
Another fantastic review. I think a swiss army knife type of bike is the best kind of bike for new riders. They need something easy to ride and can handle everything well.
Good review.
Interesting how different it is to big al considering the geo is almost the same on a medium.
Wish you had the 275 version though. As I have last years and it's a fun bike.
Love you stuff.
Thanks for helping pick the Big AL.
Sending it off huge gaps and drops that scare the crap out of me. Actually not bad at all down black Diamond chunk compared to my transition spire full sus.
Hey, looking at this as a winter hardtail for the UK. Its the colour that got me. Would you go 29 or 27.5? Shame they don't do a 297 version like the mega/giga. Also you like in an amazing place. I would love to head over and ride those trails one day (famous 'one day' saying). Have I seen you do a video on the V2 SC Bronson in pink (the rat boy signature frame)?
Keep up the good work.
Blake Sampson of GMBN describes his Scout 275 in much the same way: a do-anything, go-anywhere bike. He even rode Mega Avalanche on his! Great to see this basic assessment confirmed in comparison to so many other hardtails.
Blake is a fantastic rider. He's also sponsored by nukeproof and paid to ride their bikes.
@@hardtailparty all true, of course. You are a fantastic rider too.
@@tombowman9463 thank you, but i couldn't hang with Blake for 10 seconds.
@@hardtailparty I’m…who could?🤪
Hope you get experimental with the 27.5 frame!
Did you ever think about reviewing electric hardtails? I never found one with modern geometry, but maybe there are some.
i don't have any plans to review ebikes. They're not allowed on the singletrack where I live, and they're not very appealing to me. I've ridden a few, but they're just not my jam.
Thanks for your fabulous content!
Would love to see a shootout at lower price point bikes for mere mortals:
Polygon Xtrada 7
Canyon Stoic 2
Cannondale Trail SE 4
Virus Sentier
Keep up the great work!
Nice - Nukeproof just signed on to exhibit at Outerbike Moab & Bentonville this year! We'll have to check in with them to see if the Scout 290 is part of their demo fleet. 🤞
That'd be great !
Good review i like a Nukeproof but im so glad i brought my Ragley i love a yellow bike
Hi there Steve, back in the days I was choosing between this frame and the Sonder transmitter. I went for the Sonder and past 2 and a half years by now I still love riding my choice.
You should try the Sonder transmitter, if you haven’t yet!
Keep on with the work.
I just ordered a leftover 2021 290 scout race, Should be here in a couple days.
Congrats!
Thanks for another great review. The scenery was particularly distracting in this one for some reason. I had to pause it a couple of times to admire the view.
I do like everything about this bike except for the low BB... I understand the thought behind the geo and that it is not really needed to raise it with the 29" wheels (compared to old 26-er specs but I like my tall BB so much on the trails. 55-60mm is just ideal with 29x2.4, or maybe 65 with shorter cranks.
I hiked in Sedona this past year. Scored a free red Carhart flannel too 😅
After that 7:00 mark that trails pretty steep. I’m surprised it gripped to make it up that.
That’s some impressive climbing. A couple of those spots are tough.
Great, great review! Thank you!
Thanks for this, super helpful. Regards from London.
Hey, man. Great review, as ushhh. This review really took me back to that Orbea Laufy you reviewed a few years back. How would you say it compares to this. I remember you said something like If you don’t know what bike to get, get this one.
I really appreciate your review! A year later, anything else you recommend in a similar "budget conscious, jack-of-all-trades" category? Any other of your review videos that you want to point out?
I do my bike consultations over on Patreon..I'd be happy to help make some personalized recommendations over there. Patreon.com/hardtailparty
What a great in depth review of the bike!!! Great 👍 job Steve
Great video. Think this will be my next bike, got to decide between a M and L at 178cm height, right in the middle.
What did you go for? Im having the same 1st world problems as you, think i might go for a medium
@@danielwilson630 I went for large, short 35mm stem and it fits like a glove
Do you think a med would fit 5'10 or is it too small?
@@dlk1255 probably be fine just more playful. I'm not on mine anymore, got a full sus now, Scout frame collecting dust. Was a great bike.
Thank you for the Lorax moment!!! it gets really old watching people with no regard for the trails completely change the landscape over the decades.
I also appreciate how you’re discussing geometry and set up as unique to the rider, not a one size fits all marketing blast that the newest is the best. I ride a 2018 Chameleon based on your reviews years ago, and even though I’m not in the market for a new bike I love watching your videos
Was going to paint my 17 Marin nail trail 6 . Decided to the order a scout instead. Yellow XXL frame . Will build with my Marin parts. Should be a fun ride
Is the frame big ? I ordered an Orbea Alma in XL and it was too big for me, I’m 6’4”. Nukeproof recommends XXL for me but it’s even longer than the Orbea. Not sure what to do. Even the XL in the Nukeproof is longer than the XL in the Orbea which was too big.
@@hjkhhjkh3635 yes. it's just right though. I rode a giant Yukon size large for years so you can size up or down depending on your style or where you ride. I tend to ride everywhere and this scout pretty much does it all quite well. I've got a Santa Cruz high tower size xxl that is not quite as big as the scout and an evil wreckoning size XL that is bigger than the scout. So yeah a lot of people my size a scout in XL would be fine . I appreciate the comfort of XXL especially on longer rides both trail and urban. It jumps really well and weighs in at about 30 lbs . I put protaper 80 mill rise bars on it , pnw 200 mill dropper . Lyric ultimate 160 . Race face turbine cranks 175 . I9 rims . Vittoria syerras 2.4 . Could use much more aggressive tires , but I use the bike on pavement and gravel quite a bit doing errands and traveling to and from trails. I rode a friend's fs orbea size large. He's also tall like 6'4" but he likes the bikes slightly smaller. It was super light like 25 lbs. Also felt comfortable on a quick trail ride. Too small for me though to ride longer distances.
@@gr8fulride ok man, so if I ride L in Orbea, should I go L or XL with the scout? I have long legs but short torso and normal length arms.
@@hjkhhjkh3635 yeah that's kind of an easy answer for me as I value the fit of the bike for comfort as well as practical all round trail use. but from your perspective , I'm guessing large for you if you ride a lot of tighter twisty trails . XL for more gravity style trails. Putting a liner in the back tire was a huge improvement also. I used Vittoria air liner
@@gr8fulride ok bro. I think I’ll go for the XL and see how it goes. I’ll keep you updated by replying to this 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Can you revisit the Meta HT AM since they updated the new frame? Would be interested to hear your take maybe the Race level of components seems to compete on best value for stock components SLX and Fox 36.
If they want to send one in for review, I'll review it. There are so many amazing hardtaila out there these days, but a lot of people are stuck on canyon, nukeproof, and comnencal and don't look beyond them.
@@hardtailparty Understood, I've got no brand ties just trying to find the best spec'd bike that will cover my bases. looking forward to more reviews and content.
Excellent review, I've been riding a first gen scout since about 2015 and I'm well overdue a replacement with a more modern geo. Are you lined up to review a Pipedream moxie? Beautiful frames
I've reviewed the Sirius at but not the moxie yet.
I just procured a 2015 Scout Comp, and it has a 32T chainring and an 11-36 cassette, shifting by X-7 derailleur. I need a cassette with a wider range. What are you running on your bike? Thanks in advance!
Such a nice review about the scout! Have you heared about the Norsest Bardino 3 ht frame? I would like to hear your opinion about that frame also :)
Yes, I've definitely heard of the bardono 3. Their bikes look very interesting on paper. I've reached out to them several times but haven't been able to get one in for review
How would you compare the geometry with Trek Roscoe 7?
Amen on the unnecessary alternative routes on single track trails. The alternative routes often don't add anything, and they kake a mess.
When I was choosing my first bike, it was between this (mk2) and the Ragley Big Al. I went with the Ragley largely based on your review. Looking at this review, I feel I made the right decision. Scout still looks like an amazing bike, though.
I feel your comment re: the white line. I'm still no where near good enough to ride that but I wouldn't even consider it if I were.
I just built up a Big Al a couple of months ago, and I def think it is the better bike. you made the right call! And they're less expensive than the NP.
Yeah, I also pulled the trigger on a Big Al frame based on Steve's review and love the bike. I mounted a 140 fork and liked it, then I put on a 150 and love it. I'm 5'10" though, so my saddle is way higher than Steve's.
@@iwantmyu2b I'm 6' on a large Big Al with a 150. It's amazing. I live in the PNW and the big eats anything.
@@Windband1 Agreed. Give the Big Al a chunky downhill for lunch.
I'm so glad that you said that about the Whiteline so many mountain bikers act like heroes and receive like button nothing by the way I wish I could write as good as you thanks for all your great videos I'm hoping to get rid of my scalpel and get a spot rocker
Would be awesome if you do a review on the Canyon Stoic, pretty sure many people wants to see it.
I've been bugging them for over a year. No luck getting one.
Thanks for the video 📹
Loving the reviews @hardtail party, any interest in checking out a Canyon Stoic?
Yes, tons of interest. I've had many exchanges with Canyon, but they haven't been able to get one over to me.
I see those pink jeeps and I hear you talking about trail widening....🤔.
Seems like every time I go to the sinkhole or soldiers pass there's a family from texas in a rented 4x4.
The pink jeeps are fantastic at sticking to the trail. Those drivers are some of our most respectful trail users. I think we have a responsibility to keep singletrack single. I feel like there's a place for motorized doubletrack in some parts, singletrack mtb in other parts and hiking only wilderness on others. It's all a balance.
@@hardtailparty I hear you. I'll do my best when I'm out there.
I picked the v3 290 up to try after this vid. I just find it a bit bland tbh ride feel wise. I would stick with the 27.5 on the Scout. Way more fun on any trail. Thanks for the review. Let us know how you get on with the 27.5.
I agree, something was just a little uninspiring/vanilla with this model.
I had pedal strikes every ride with my gen 2 scout 290. At least once it caused an OTB!
hello. What travel is your fork? I have a gen 2 290 size XL with 140mm travel and I do not have this problem. Is yours 130mm??
@@batstam You’re onto something as it was the comp spec 130 fork!
How does this compare to the fuse you tested?
Hey what would you choose between the Santa Cruz chameleon or the Nukeproof scout?
Hi Steve, really dig this review. I bought the g2 290 Scout last year (it was very hard to get a bike full stop mid Covid here in Oz) and I'm pretty much a noob. The bike does everything you say and I greatly enjoy it on the many different tracks around here. Get it on the pump track, jumps (little ones) and flying down flow trails. It does hammer me a fair bit a times, that is a downside (it came with 2.6/2.5" tyres, I might look at some cushcore stuff). And pedal strokes a plenty. Perfect vehicle for learning the skills and I keep improving on a weekly basis. In short I feel this review is spot on, cheers.
How can I find the different generation years of the Scout?
Okay I own a Norco storm 9.2 bought it brand new and like most beginners. I crashed tires kept deflating at the stem. I gave up! Been hanging in the shed for years now. Fyi bought the bike before I had a son. I have one now and he is 7. So I busted out the old MTB. So my question is. Do I sell and buy new nuke proof or up grade components. Like I have a 3 x 8 and I can get a one by.
Hi, you do really good hardtail mtb reviews. have you had a chance to look at the Vitus hardtails ? they are really good value for the money.
I've tried to get a vitus for a while, but no luck. Great value for the money, but the geo is pretty dated now.
I’m thinking about replacing my 2019 roscoe 7 with a nukeproof scout frame
Hi, I'm about to buy this bike and would like to ask you: How would you compare it to Roscoe 9? - In Europe it's almost impossible to get Big Al or actually 90% of the "best bikes" on the market.
What mini toolset your using? The one you use to adjust the saddle
Topeak ratchet rocket. I have a video of all the tools i carry in my hip pack with links to them all.
@@hardtailparty nicee thank you