Yes I noticed that too, bearing in mind people are bound to be watching or filming it does not show the undertaking in a very good light. Might have been a passenger I suppose?
Tangmere is running with worn con rod bearings. As the bearings wear the clearance evolved will cause the rods to drop at low speed hence the con rod 'ring' Common in steam days and no big thing unless something else happens, Like bearing shell fracture , key is lubrication any loss should be fixed before moving anything.
Tangmere has definitely broke something, because on railtour, 44871 is now expected to do all of Tangmere railtorus. Possibly a fault with the cab or with the braking? 🤔
The problem is that Tangmere is an unmodified Bullied Pacific. They had their weaknesses (oil immersed chain driven valve gear for one) and fitters didn't get on with them. The modified ones did away with some of the problems, but not all.
First time I sw Tangmere on the main line was at Oxenholme where it was being taken out of service in the loop, due to leaving Preston with all the lubrication box corks being left on the platform - seems to be a singularly unfortunate loco in having failed more often than most other steam locos on the roster
How many miles has it put in this year as the only air braked loco other than 44871 available to Carnforth? Besides, it seems likely it was an AWS or TPWS problem
Hardly suprising that Tangmere is becoming unreliable WCR have worked the backside off the engine this year, and a hard route over Shap, and the Settle and Carlisle route.
Please forgive my ignorance I love trains but this I just don’t know. When you have a diesel on the end of a train is the diesel actually giving any assistance or is it just for the return journey? I’m sure someone will enlighten me. Cheers 👍
It's in case of breakdowns Gareth so they can keep the running line clear for everyday booked services. One of my workmates at Salisbury left to work for WCR on the back up locos.
Sometimes it also provides power for lighting or heating in the coaches and can help reverse the train if it's at a terminus and the steam loco can't propel the train out.
It was over 20 minutes late departing on the return movement to Carnforth, and then was "unavailable" for Tuesday's tour. But not a peep from WCR as to what the problem was/is.
As atomic said it was most likely someone chucking some tissues or something out the window instead of putting them in a bin of the station they were approaching 😐😑😒
@@SSccaanniiaa Looked like chip papers top me coming from the support coach, dirty sods, they should make them clean it up ,there is enough crap trackside without adding.
better than light bulbs and bog rolls out of the old mark1s on the football specials 🙄think some of the do goobers wont be happy till west coast stop running trains
Throwing garbage out the window is a disgrace.
should be ashamed throwing litter out of the window!!
Staff throwing litter out of the window is very poor indeed. I hope it’s looked into
Yes I noticed that too, bearing in mind people are bound to be watching or filming it does not show the undertaking in a very good light. Might have been a passenger I suppose?
Lööked like a load of bog paper
About par for the course for WCRC I'd say
@@45156 could have been worse and hit you on the head 😂
They should know better!
Tangmere is running with worn con rod bearings. As the bearings wear the clearance evolved will cause the rods to drop at low speed hence the con rod 'ring' Common in steam days and no big thing unless something else happens, Like bearing shell fracture , key is lubrication any loss should be fixed before moving anything.
The 86 looks brilliant on the front
I agree the 86 looks fantastic but the logo on the side looks rubbish,almost like graffiti. A BR logo would look better.
Tangmere has definitely broke something, because on railtour, 44871 is now expected to do all of Tangmere railtorus. Possibly a fault with the cab or with the braking? 🤔
86 at one end, 47 at the other. It's like the great 70s again, a proper time for spotting at Preston❤.
The problem is that Tangmere is an unmodified Bullied Pacific. They had their weaknesses (oil immersed chain driven valve gear for one) and fitters didn't get on with them. The modified ones did away with some of the problems, but not all.
I asked a driver on Tuesday. He said there eas an electrical problem. To me that suggested AES or TPWS wasn't working
oh ok thanks for your information Leslie 😀👍
Tangmere coming past clitheroe like it was already knackered tbh
Poor tangmere seems to break down a lot thanks for video
First time I sw Tangmere on the main line was at Oxenholme where it was being taken out of service in the loop, due to leaving Preston with all the lubrication box corks being left on the platform - seems to be a singularly unfortunate loco in having failed more often than most other steam locos on the roster
How many miles has it put in this year as the only air braked loco other than 44871 available to Carnforth? Besides, it seems likely it was an AWS or TPWS problem
Tangmere seems to break down on most rail tours but thank you
🙄 It's put in sterling work this year as one of the only air braked steam locos WCR has
Hardly suprising that Tangmere is becoming unreliable WCR have worked the backside off the engine this year, and a hard route over Shap, and the Settle and Carlisle route.
Great capture & Thanks for Sharing 👍
Tangmere in Trouble? no can't believe that.
well done to Mons Meg. brillant loco,very well turned out !
That was another epic day thank you
Didn’t seem to be much wrong with Tangmere, as he appeared to give a hefty shove to 86401 !
TPWS failed
I swear i have saw so many times that Tangmere broke down. It is purely just that it can’t run well or is it dying of old age?
Rescued by an electric engine. How humiliating.
Please forgive my ignorance I love trains but this I just don’t know. When you have a diesel on the end of a train is the diesel actually giving any assistance or is it just for the return journey? I’m sure someone will enlighten me. Cheers 👍
It's in case of breakdowns Gareth so they can keep the running line clear for everyday booked services. One of my workmates at Salisbury left to work for WCR on the back up locos.
Sometimes it also provides power for lighting or heating in the coaches and can help reverse the train if it's at a terminus and the steam loco can't propel the train out.
@@mattlander9119 cheers for that pal. Always curious 👍
@@kristinajendesen7111 again Thankyou for enlightening me 👍
It was over 20 minutes late departing on the return movement to Carnforth, and then was "unavailable" for Tuesday's tour. But not a peep from WCR as to what the problem was/is.
As another commented has pointed out, He spoke to a driver and seemed to be an electrical issue so the aws for example 😊
1:06 'What was that out the window?'
Looked like to me someone chucking something out of a bucket not to sure what tho.
As atomic said it was most likely someone chucking some tissues or something out the window instead of putting them in a bin of the station they were approaching 😐😑😒
@@BritishRailJack Stupid really, but free goodies from the Northen Belle! Just need to reach over & get it! 😃😂
@@SSccaanniiaa Looked like chip papers top me coming from the support coach, dirty sods, they should make them clean it up ,there is enough crap trackside without adding.
Good spot
Its sad the spam can failed, but the 47 came to the rescue again, seriously WCRC are becoming a bit of a joke
Good video from Preston. Hopefully it's fixed soon.
A 33 crompton did a tour in tangmeres place cos she failed the other day
Amazing video sadly tangmere did fail don't where thought
Looked like soapsuds to me
!!!Great video. Like me!!!
This should’ve worked a tour on Tuesday 17/Sep, but it didn’t. WTF went wrong?
better than light bulbs and bog rolls out of the old mark1s on the football specials 🙄think some of the do goobers wont be happy till west coast stop running trains
Ive benn on many tours where tangemere broke down
I was the person stood right brhind you 👌 Mega move
1:08 - Real professional... Not. Probably won't happen, but rapped knuckles all round I'd say.
01:08 for people who want to find the litterer