How Does Mix Voice Work??
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100 percent , the mix voice you and Chris Liepe , bohemiam vocal studio are teaching is the one i am working on. It feels great when you get it. Sometime it is harder than others. On the other hand the mix that Tyson Wyong teaches seems more of a blend . Not the same coordination as this stuff. Maybe I'm wrong but Tyson may not realise he isn't in a mix coordination?. Man. I love your work. Keep it coming
I know of Chris Liepe but haven’t followed his teaching. I don’t know of Tyson Wyong. All I can really relay is my experience and understanding of the voice from my perspective and do my best to teach that. There are definitely anomalies though where people can do different things and find different workable paths. 😊
we have the same teachers. The cry seems to add more power to the mix, though Chris and Keegan's approach seems to be different, Tyler's technique seems to be lighter. I can pretty much connect head and chest and access my mix, only problem is it is too light for now
@@cryptomaniac6926 it was weak for me for a while too. Many months and I couldn’t really change it or move it much until I started to relax more and figure out how to open the sound back up. I would practice placing and getting to know your voice on a more nasal level for some time. It helps you to integrate that next tier of your voice. Either way, thanks for watching. Hope I helped in some way. 😬
Tyson Wyong? Do we mean Tyler Wyong, perhaps? 😉
@@thirstfortruth8904 yes
Best explanation ever of the mix voice. I totally agree with everything you’ve said. In my personal experience, once I find the “2nd circle” of resonance (in the soft palate) I also use the vocal fry onset instead of the crying technique and it helps me a lot in losing weight. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
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I've also not seen any youtubers offer a physical explanation of what is going on when you get into mix voice. Yours is the first and it makes a lot of sense. Thanks!
Amazing mix of great physical explanation, practical techniques and a good humor. You really helped me, thanks!
Great to hear!
Such a great explanation! That really cleared up some confusion because it actually makes sense. Thank you!
Good stuff man! Saving this to come back to every now and again when I’m stuck 🤙
Thanks Logan 😊
Excellent video! I’ve never heard someone explain how to achieve mixed voice in such plain language.
Great tutorial. There is so much to unpack here.
Thanks Jeff 😊
Oh man, so good. Great content, and funny as hell.
Thanks Greg.
Finally, someone who speaks my language when it comes to explaining how the voice works and a lot more. Killer job.
wow that clears up much
This was it!
This was the one that got me to finally sing in mixed voice.
I finally hit a non-head note above A4.
Now I just need to get it consistent. =]
Awesome 😊😊
Thanks!
Hey. Thanks very much 😊😊
Inhalare la voce ..inhaling the voice pushing back they say in bel canto ..i was told push forward..forward doesn’t work i find inhaling the words back works as you say great work !
Man, you're very cool. It helped me and my students a lot! Greetings from Russia😁🙆♂️
Is it possible to do mix if you have a rubbish falsetto or a weak low one? My falsetto doesnt go any higher than my chest and always flips and cracks to different tonality.
Just wondering if im waisting time not having a decent falsetto as im not a fan of that sound anyway.
So brilliant! Everything you explained confirms what I felt like was happening with my voice as I went through my past 6 months journey with a vocal coach!
“Crying on pitch” - 😂😂
Thank you for blessing everyone with your content! ❤
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You have a very easy-to-use interface that allows me to grow vocally in range and depth. I have a falsetto whistle that is very easy to hit but difficult to control. I wish you had one too. Kinda like Gabriel H from Brazil 🇧🇷
Thanks Jason. Never worked much on whistle as it’s not very usable. If I were you I’d keep trying to practice lightly connecting all of those registers together with slides/sirens. Chest to head voice to whistle and back. 😊
@Sterling R Jackson great words. I find them just in the right placement at times, and I feel like I am in another body that is internally vibrating apart from me, AND then the placement into head voice is smoothly brought down to size and very delicate and almost at a whisper. Thank you for your awesome advice! I will try my best to cultivate and not damage the vocal chords. 🙏✨️
@@jasonvincent77 interesting to hear. I wish you well 😊😊
You said Doody pants…. That was funny 😂
Haha
So the opera singers use some kind of heavy mix voice with low larynx ? Or they keep the soft palate raised and use expansion of chest voice ?
Sterling, i just wanted to say that ive listened to your version of Wasted Years by Cold about 500 times literally. i love it and it always hits me hard. im a Cold fan from way back and honestly i think that i like your version more than the original. i have it on two of my playlists along with your version of The Noose. love you dude. keep it up.
Thanks Dean. That band meant a lot to me growing up. I really connected with those sad songs and vibes.
Once someone can get into the high notes with mixed, should they constantly try to do nasal whiny tones as warmups? When I had my opera singer teacher show me how to sing , she always made me go more nasal and all I ended up with was a ridiculously annoying loud and nasal voice that sounded tiny .
Just doing scales randomly at times I can go above c5 comfortably without being weirdly nasal, so at this point is there benefit to me doing those types of weird tones ? Maybe to just have control of the voice?
My issue was back then, the nasal thing was baked into my tone, I couldn’t get it out, my speaking voice , everything was just grossly nasal.
It was weird though bc now if I lower my soft palate a little it creates an airier tone that doesn’t sound so dense to me and it sounds better to me. Before with her I felt she was directing me to sin towards my hard palate but keep my soft palate raised totally and I got a very “hard” tone. In retrospect I feel like she wasn’t a very good teacher, her answer to everything was more hard nasal presence and more belting , she’d keep me going even when my voice would give out and not hit high notes, she’d just keep making me do it. By the time I’d sing a song at the end of the lesson I couldn’t hit high notes I otherwise would . Part of the reason I couldn’t hit high notes at times with her was her control of my mouth posture , never smiling or slightly wider mouth, always tall and narrow with hard palate placement and belting . Super open mouth , chin never moving , larynx always still . It was such a pain, I did grow as a singer in some ways but I question if I woulda had better growth with just about anyone else
Hey man, i can connect with the O-o sound but its very light. Can you make another video explaining the cry? I know you already have the cry video, but can you show us where to feel the cry and how to make the sound, whats the onset?
Ha, well… I made that one main video on the fry technique which I think is what you’re referencing. I’m not sure I’ll make another just yet but maybe soon. I dive into these things deeper on Patreon if that would interest you. Keeping working with the info and finding it for yourself. Give it some time 😊
I was a patreon before, just did not see videos coming in so i stopped lol. But yeah i will resub
Anyway, if i can connect the my chest to head, and my mix is light, what do you suggest i work on?
@@cryptomaniac6926 if you’re connecting with cord closure from top to bottom but it’s light, then keep going. Sing new things and be excited about it. It takes experimentation and time to develop and understand. You can do light, medium and heavy mix exercises which I’ve talked about but I did those and it didn’t work for months.
how about belting?
thank you for this! Does anyone know why doing the exaggerated Shakira voice makes the break disappear? I have no idea if I'm not hearing it or if it works
Exaggerated Shakira voice haha. What you’re probably mentioning is lowering your larynx. That can definitely help with finding mix.
@@SterlingRJackson okay thank you very much lmao
Do you do private lessons? I got questions
Yep. Feel free to reach out to my email sterlingravijackson@gmail.com
What is the difference between head voice and falsetto? Or what is head voice, plz anyone?
Head voice and falsetto are the same coordination but in falsetto your vocal folds are blown apart (more air) and head voice they’re together.
I'm trying to make those high pitched sounds (cat meow) since decades. Without success. The only way to create a high pitched sound (C5) is with falsetto, much air, heavily yelling. So how can i find a way to those exercises? As i said i'm trying it since decades.
More pressure and more air is never the way to go about anything. There’s many things I could ask or would have to know so it’s difficult to help through a RUclips comment. Your age, voice, how you’ve sang throughout the years and how you’re going about performing the exercise could all come into play here. Short advice here would be to check out my video on vocal fry and try it like that. As small and relaxed as possible. If you can do it small like that, you definitely won’t be doing it any other way (at least in a healthy way)
@@SterlingRJackson Thank you for taking the time! I'll follow your advice.
In this area where we are more nasal with a placement to the back, when I exagerate the nasality (like a cry) and then put vocal fry on it, cazy distortion happens without hurting or tension, is this it ?
Uhh… well vocal fry changes some things so I can’t really comment without hearing it.
More nasal and placement to the back, how is it possible, they are completely opposite?
@@oshobaadu6272 Are they ?! To redirect the sound to my nasal cavity the back of my tongue raises and by adjusting that I feel like my voice is backed up.
I don't know if it is back placement but since it feels like it is I've always assumed it was
@@SterlingRJackson Oh man, there is so much parameters to adjust !
@@oshobaadu6272 to allow more resonance into the nasal cavity your voice sends more sound back behind the soft pallet. So, it’s basically the same but you may experience or think of it differently. Take your time and experiment 😊
Hey does Ozzy Osbourne use mix voice? Because I’ve looked it up and it says he’s a natural tenor. But it seems he’s actually a baritone who uses mixed voice?
Sorta difficult to say actually. I’ve heard some evidence of a little use of mix but it doesn’t seem like it actually. He seems to be able to throw his higher nasal voice around quite a bit but gets tighter the higher he goes which is usually chest or stretched chest. I’ve heard him struggle with high notes quite a bit live too. Who knows. We all love the dude either way. 😊
@@SterlingRJackson the reasons why I am assuming he maybe a baritone is by his natural speaking voice being low. And if you hear his early sabbath live shows. It sounds like his voice is very high, which makes me think he’s using mix/nasal to speak higher. Some of his songs like his cover of “In my life” and his song “mama I’m coming home” is a bit low for a tenor range. I
If I'm feeling this right, should it feel like opening my sinus passages for a neti pot flush? Because that's what it feels like to me.
I haven’t done enough neti pot flushes to know haha. Apologies. But it sounds like you’re on the right track. It’s different than normal voice.
@@SterlingRJackson Me neither, because it's REALLY fucking hard to keep the top part of my throat open to my nasal passages!
@@oflittleconsequence You know when a doctor asks you to say "ahh" and puts that stupid stick on your tongue? Doing that opens the top of your "throat" soft pallet. It's not hard. We all do it all the time. Make a sound like "ung". Like "sung" without the "s" and then plug your nose. Notice how much sound is coming through your nose. You have just opened and allowed sound up into the sinuses.
@@SterlingRJackson What do you charge for online lessons? I’m east cost, but up north.
And how are they structured? (30 minutes, once per week? More? Less?)
@@oflittleconsequence Most students join me once a week. I'm on the east coast as well but in Florida. I teach using zoom. I have rates for half hour and hour lessons. Hit me up via email if you're interested. SterlingRaviJackson@gmail.com
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Yea been trying to find mix for over 20 years….from Brett Manning to Some guy named Eli Printen to Tyler Wysong……I still can’t get it down. I think I got it sometimes but when I do, the sound is so small that it’s barely audible.
Also, it seems that I have to connect into my head voice very low at around D4. Pretty sure that’s not correct. At age 49, im about ready I give up on this. Maybe my old vocal chords are just too old now for all that and being a natural low baritone, I’m eternally stuck with a limited range. Genetics suck
Have u found it ?