I feel like Lando is going to be THE driver under the most pressure from fans to deliver this year. The lad has a lot of talent, but does he truly have what it takes? If the MCL38 is going to be as good as we all think (I really hope so), then that question should be answered this year. I'm a big fan of Lando and I want him to fulfil his true potential, knock on wood he makes steps to one day realising his true potential this season!
Many drivers like sainz, button, rosberg waited a long time for their first wins. As a mclaren fan norris time will come! Sometimes u need a bit of patience in f1
@@gameofender4463 Lando Norris has been driving the fourth/ fifth best car on the grid and sometimes the 10th best car on the grid. He hasnt been in a RB rocket ship or a period when Mercedes dominated. Your statement is completely unfair and unthinking. He has dominated his team mates for the last three years. He scored six 2nd places in 11 races plus a third. Everyone says if the RB wasnt so good Lando would have a number of wins by now. Other than that you have to luck in to a win. Jensen Button only won 1 race in 9 years and then only 6 in the year he won the Wdc.
Talent? Yes he has Does he have what it takes? No he doesn't have Max's killer instinct Is the car gonna be good? Yes they've an amazing trajectory, Question is how good. He is not an fresh face in the pitlane. We know his true potential. He is fast, very fast and very good over long runs. But he lacks the true racer instincts to finish the job in the end. But then so did Rosberg.
@@angryboianimates4444 Max can't have no bad luck in 24 race weekends. And if the car is good and everything falls into place. Then sure Lando has a shot. I just don't see him capable of challenging max for the championship regardless of how good the Mclaren will be.
To me Lando is like Jenson Button. Takes a long ass time to get a first win, and the only way he'll be able to win a title is if his team nails new regs and has a fairly dominant car for at least half a season. Both Jenson and Lando are great drivers who can win a title in the best car without issue. But if it's a genuine tough battle between multiple teams and drivers then it's not them who would come out on top. Jenson proved so, let's see if Lando does or if he proves me wrong instead.
I think Jenson Button did have it in him to take a battle all the way to the end and actually end up on top, and had he done to with anyone I think it would definitely be against Hamilton
@@GameOver-nm2us McLaren had a car quick enough to win the title in 2010 and 2012 (reliability notwithstanding), but Jenson was evidently not the guy to put up the fight in those seasons, it was Lewis. And despite Lewis clearly being hit with more bad luck, ruining his title chances, he still finished ahead of Jenson both times. So no, I definitely do not think Jenson would've ever beaten Lewis in title fight. The only time Jenson beat Lewis was in 2011, but that was a 2023-esque year, no one was fighting for the title besides Seb; and it just so happened that Lewis had his worst season in F1 when Jenson had his best season.
@@Robalexe Hamilton had enough raw speed and pace, but to be completely honest, he lacked experience. At that point Button would've been much more experienced, giving him advantage in tire wear, and pushing the car to just a little more and not crash while doing so. It would be extremely close but I think in 2011, had it not been for Redbull, and Hamilton's bad luck; we could've had one of the closest and most competitive battles ever in F1, and ultimately resulting in Button being crowned 2 time world champion.
@@GameOver-nm2us If Lewis beat Fernando as a rookie in the best car, there's no way he'd lose to Jenson after over 4 seasons of experience in F1. And we can't say for sure Button would've won 2011 without RB, because drivers perform differently when they fight for podiums and the odd win vs championships. And again, 2011 was Jenson's best year and Lewis' worst year, so if that's what it takes for Jenson to beat him over a season that's quite damning for every single other scenario possible.
this is my concern for 24', they basically had both chips won by mid-way so they could start dev on the new car so they could development to improve the little things like if everyone gains .5 but RB doesn't cook it tires then its going to be more of the same.
honestly i'm ok with red bull dominance for now as long as they aren't winning nearly every race, but that's just because 2023 was so shit that i have no expectations
The lineup is strong. But I don't think they're ready yet. To face off verstappen or Hamilton you've got to have a little bit more...which I don't think neither Lando nor McLaren have yet
@@thomas-wm4rz Just as well as Leclerc has. Both aren't particularly known for their consistency nor resilience. But we wait to observe, seeing as McLaren is pitted to be red bull's closest challenger. Should be exciting
I hope McLaren did some analysis (even outside the windtunnel with flow vis or whatever) during last year's off-track time of how the aero worked differently between the B spec car and the one from before Austria. I also hoped they played around with various suspension geometries and suspension setups just to see if they can fix the handling issue Lando, Daniel, Carlos and even Oscar complained about.
@@thomas-wm4rz Oscar still puzzles me. How he handled that car in his rookie season against a very talented and by now experienced teammate. That has been the teams goldenboy for quiet some time.
@barneyklingenberg4078 Well Oscar was prepared like no rookie in a long time. He nearly made as many laps as a F1 driver last season. That he's good is obvious from his junior career. And yeah lando is experienced by now that's true, but he was nearly 3 years younger at his debut than oscar and is still just a little older than him. Let's see how it will be next season with different circumstances even though oscar really kept a cool head until now.
I find it interesting that many people keep saying that McLaren needs to give Lando a car capable of winning. I think they have. It's not capable of winning the championship, but the fact Lando has not yet won a race is as much down to him as it is McLaren. He has been there five years so he would know all the engineers and should know what he needs from them and the car. I don't think he has any chance of winning the championship this year but if he can get a couple of wins it will lift his confidence and he could be fighting for titles in the next few years. If he cracks under pressure again though and Oscar manages a couple of wins he may never have a shot at the title.
I just hope the new layout isn't like the matrix management structure again and that Stella more so just trusts Sanchez, Marshall and Prodromou's individual judgment and expertise. I hope they can express their creative ideas fully, work well together and harmoniously with good understanding of each others' restrictions/constraints, have a good understanding and real-world correlation with their design philosophies and upgrade packages. I hope Mercedes also doesn't stay in this rabbit hole of their flawed design philosophy.
Mclarens biggest advantage is the extra wind tunnel time. They’ve had 6 months with an extra 20% ATR (being ranked 6th but with the second fastest car) and will have another 6 months with an extra 10% (finishing 4th again with 2nd fastest car) Red Bulls also had it’s ATR cut by 10% and Mc Laren unlike Mercedes don’t need to change concept This is Mclaren’s opportunity if it doesn't come (and it might not, they’re not experienced front runners anymore) there is no excuse, besides the other teams did a better job
This gives me hope that a Lego set of this car that has been rumored is coming. Lol I know it's off topic but I'm huge collector of Lego and maybe that set could be part of the reason they reveal the livery early? Or some other collaboration. Back to the livery, I love the look of the stealth livery. I love how their pixelated sponsor logo thing looks against the black/orange. Looks modern.
Mercedes and Hamilton too was well as Ferrari and Leclerc(and others of course). In an highly competitive environment there are no guaranteed wins, everybody is doing everything to beat the others. Hopefully McLaren will be up there with the others and be able to fight with them
I think there should be a rule that the entire car must be painted, if you want black then paint it black. Would save of a lot of issues of teams deciding whether it's worth leaving large patches of car bare in order to save weight.
Totally agree, they need to win a race or two this year. The car took a great turn this past year and the team seems gelled. Id love to see them beat merc this year.
The car looks amazing and it surely will stand out in both the sunlight and the floodlights. Don't much care for the chrome numbers because they will be barely visible from afar. As for the team's expectations, there are way too many variables to contend with, within the new team structure. Strategy needs to be more on point. A strong driver line up can either be in tune with the objective or massively contentious. Lando has had the time to find his limits and make the mistakes in doing so. He has to drive way more calculated if he wants to beat Max or even Oscar. He needs that Win. Oscar is a mighty quick learner and will undoubtedly find a way to get that tire management under control. McLaren have a good overall package but they have to have the consistency to perform 24 + 6 times. Red Bull more than proved that it's possible so they have a very steep hill to climb.
If Red Bull‘s rivals figure out how to catch them we might be in with a chance of having a 3-way fight to the title. It’s highly unlikely but man can only dream
No chance. Red Bull will dominate next year as well imho. Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes could snatch a win over the season, but I don't think anyone will challenge duo Newey-Verstappen.
Max fan here too. Sure, I get your point, but don't tell me that getting a 24/24 wouldn't be amazing for Max and/or RB😂😂😂. Sure, most likely this season will be more evenly matched, but RB developing the 2024 car almost since July/August, even developing the 2025 car already, could mean that 2024 will be as or more dominant than 2023
Agreed. They’ve everything there! They need to be winning races this season. I’d argue more than just one! Not saying they should be winning 9/10 races, but 2/3 should be the goal (at least).
I'm a mclaren fan but we got to be reaslitic. We would be lucky to get one win this season. What I want is consistency. I want to see us maintain a good performance from start to finish. It's all when and good turning up in second half of season like 2023. Or going all guns blazing in 2021. But if we want to think about championships u need consistency. A 4th place is the target for me
I can see tension arising in several teams which may impact results. Merc, Alpine, McLaren, maybe AT .. and Haas for different reasons may all see driver pairings that have heated moments on track affecting outcomes. McLaren have a strong pair, but ILando won’t sit easily behind Oscar if that is the case.
Although the car looks incredible. For 2025 i seriously think there should be some rule implemented that atleast 75% of the car needs to be painted or something like that. It's sad seeing every car using more and more black
I think FIA shoud add a rule for minimum paint weight. If you want exposed carbon it have to be clear coated. I dont like any of the new designs with 50% or more carbon on all cars.
Mclaren have said they will be on top form in 2025 but I am hopeful they will be very strong in 2024 . Lando is vital to them . Oscar is a great talent with a lot of potential but Lando delivers and is the most important driver to them and he is loyal. In races he is brilliant. I assume he will wait until he drives the new car and then if he is happy they need to come up with serious top driver money and he is already on $20m a year. Stella has said they have identified some issues on the limit on the car that could have affected Lando and the team on a couple of occasions screwed up and called him back in leaving him just one chance to get a time. I dont think he has anything to worry about.
And yet when the opportunity to win the sprint in Qatar came up, what happened? Oscar took it with both hands and converted, while Norris choked. Again.
@@walover165 I take it your an Oscar fan and want to find any opportunity , real or fictional , to show your fandom and run Lando down. You know as well as I know that they drive for the same team so will be driving under strict orders not to battle or have any coming together. The sprint race is a crowd pleaser, for the reason why they are their, the GP ,the following day. Oscar did very well in qualifying and was on pole and Lando was second , a great start for the team. Lando would only have won that race if he had got Oscar at the start. The whole race was barely 10 laps of competitive driving with three red flags and lack of DRS for 6 laps in an 18 lap race. Lando is a team player and simply followed Oscar home and helped to shield Oscar. Choked ? What planet are you on. get real and understand driving for a team. Oscar has let Lando past in GP because Lando is faster in GP races and Lando simply demonstrated that he wont race when it wont be better for the team.
@@bjs7442 Yes, Norris choked. He could have taken the Sprint pole, but he ran wide on the very last corner. He could have challenged Oscar for the lead, but he blew the start. Even in main qualifying, he blew a front row start by having lap time after lap time deleted. Oscar also had a lap time deleted that cost him a top 3 start, but he was sensible enough to set a banker lap which meant he was still high enough up the grid to take advantage. Yes, Qatar was one big Norris choke. Not for the first time and won't be the last.
@@walover165 So every time a driver doesnt get on pole they choked ? Shouts to Max . "Hey Max you choke when Charles beats you to pole" oh and when you dont take the lead when your not on pole you choked Max. Charles on pole overtaken by Lando , oh dear Charles choked again. Oh Japanese GP Oscar loses second at the start to Lando. Oscar choked in the race too finishing 17 secs behind Lando. Well Lando outqualified and out raced Oscar by a huge margin so in your juvenile language Oscar choked more than Lando and in my language Lando simply was more consistent and drove better in 2023. Although I support Lando I am also supportive of Oscar he is a great young driver and I want Mclaren to do well. I have a grown up view of F1 and performances and not filled with juvenile driver hate. They all risk their lives and deserve our respect
@@walover165Qatar was a bad weekend for Norris. The car was fast enough to qualify on the front row and potentially even win the race - Norris had the pace to qualify on pole. He blew a good banker lap at the start of Q3, lost multiple tenths on his final flying lap (which was deleted anyway) due to a conservative approach and finished behind his teammate.
My main shock from the livery is that there's no hint of Monster on it??? Like it was big news when they announced it that they left Mercedes for Mclaren but then there's nothing on the car?? Makes me think this isn't really the final livery and there will be updates to it in February...
without having watched the video, doesn't the title apply to all teams in the top 5? They all know how to design the car basically and they all spend the same so ... can't let RB speed off into the distance once again.
No they don't. They just need to make sure they're competitive for the entire season, and you could say that about Ferrari, Mercedes, Aston and McLaren, who were all competitive but only for part of the season. Next step is having a car that works everywhere. For all of them. Once they've got that, they can think about winning races.
They absolutely have an excuse for 2024 - Red Bull are still clear. Their target is 2025 when they've fully developed a car with the wind tunnel, new simulator & the new technical structure.
@@Robalexethat is a false quote. The new wind tunnel has solely worked on the MCL68 but the development of that car started way before it was functional. Besides, the genius of Rob Marshall & David Sanchez is much more impactful than the new infrastructure.
@@glenrobinson10 I agree with you there. I expect McLaren to really come swinging in 2025 or at least the next regs, but 2024 should still only be an improvement on their 2023
@@RobalexeI'm fully expecting a consistent podium challenger that can win on a favourable track but they definitely have an "excuse" not to be winning every week.
It's not really fair to say that the new staff arrivals will have much effect on this year because they only started in January so it's only fair to judge them from next year, also definitely not the best financial position they've been in, it's the healthiest it's been for a long time but nothing compared to them having the mercedes works deal in the late 90s to early 00s and probably not as good as when they had all the honda money coming in in the mid 10s
I expect big things from them this year...only if red bull drop a little bit and have a smaller gap than last season in bahrain i expect mclaren to win 1-2 races
I'm so excited for McLaren and I'm not jus saying tht as a papaya I mean it. But I'm not convinced were ready yet and ngl I think we will go through tht RB faze pre 2021 of having a car that can fight for the occasional win but not a championship till late in the seasons when it's basically to late like RB were known for pre 2021 but im so excited
Hmmm. I think the title charge will start next season. This season will be a case of 1-3 victories this season. That wouldn’t be disappointing, Red Bull will be even better this season. The pieces are in place for 2025 not 2024
Marshall and Sanchez didn't arrive at McLaren until 1 January 2024. I think McLaren will be closer this year, but 2025 might be the year they really compete for wins. I have a feeling Merc will come out swinging in 6 weeks, taking it to RB.
All McLaren fans loved all the liveries of 2023. Marlboro and Vodafone throwbacks were a dub and the stealth mode was slick and led to their 2024 car which is their best look since vodafone tbh. That Abu Dhabi livery was mid af tho. The blue ruined every livery since the 2019 car
The „video Title“ is easily said while hanging around at the computer. You say :They HAVE to win I say: only a Sith deals in absolutes Good evening sir
All I can say is, everyone will bring a good and a fast car. Not Maclaren alone that will make the jump this year. Everyone is working flat out and it will be development game throughout the year.
I am just saying that Mercedes will be fighting against Red bull according to someone working at McLaren and also watch out for Stake and Williams, don't be surprised if they have a jump like Aston Martin had
If McLaren is able to battle for wins, do you think they’ll let Oscar race or force him to play the support role for Lando? I hope Oscar isn’t so “laid back” that he’ll accept whatever….
Oscar has a longer contract than Lando and McLaren poached him from Alpine when they had the chance cuz they knew he was that good it'd be worth it... they will obviously let him race unless he's half a second off the pace like in some races last year
2025 is when they have no more excuses. sorry for ruining your clickbait title, they made that clear in the past, and they have only just gotten their new recruits from ferrari and redbull working for them this january. 2025 is when there is truly no more excuse
McLaren is now just a black car with orange off color. I bet that everyone else on the grid is going to do the same thing .... black carbon fibre with some color. Kinda boring.
If McLaren start the third season of these regs in the bottom quarter again after all this hype.... Idk feels like some higher ups would need to leave.
Zero experience in the team is what will ultimately cos them this year. Look at Charles in 22’, despite him having more success he still wasn’t fully ready to challenge max (although it was mostly the team, he made some mistakes in a few races) Mclaren and mostly Norris need to show he can get poles/wins before we talk about a potential championship contender
I must be the only one who doesn't like this livery.. It's mostly dark and black and hides the shape of the car. Just nothing to see. Also, the idea that livery is an indicator of how a team might perform is kind of silly..
@@Robalexe Alright, I just prefer more colors. I do believe that would make shapes easier to see. So.. Maybe it's black in specific areas on purpose. They do have a lot of wind tunnel hours for this season :)
I think it's a bloody stupid take. Lando has outperformed his teammates and his car on plenty of occasions. Then Mclaren is in no position to hire anyone that is better then Lando across the board. Considering there is only 1 driver on the grid currently that has both the future remaining and a skillset that is superior to Lando's. And we can assume Mclaren is in no position to hire the now 3 time world champion.
Lando beat a struggling Daniel and struggled sometimes against a rookie last year. He is good but so far nothing special has really been shown. I think he will struggle against Piastri even more as time goes@@barneyklingenberg4078
@@daverudaRicciardo only seemed to struggle because his benchmark was Norris. He wasn’t even particularly bad in 2021, especially not in the second half of the season. Piastri has been rated as a better driver than Leclerc by Prema engineers. He also happened to be one of the most prepared rookies in F1 history’s Norris battered him last season - they weren’t even in the same area code in races
Its that Hamilton bloody black guy dam hes just been too good too fast and too strong that he in fact beat McLaren when his Mercedes was a pile of crap and more like a midfield car so its that Hamilton guy who's been the problem why excuses keep coming why could'nt we just beat him just like Redbull cheating.
Why? They outscored Mercedes in the second half of the season if i recall. Oscar and Lando are working together better. And both have shown the consistency. Honestly i can see Mclaren beat Redbull in the constructor's if their car keeps improving. Even though that is more down to Perez's awful performances on saturday.
I feel like Lando is going to be THE driver under the most pressure from fans to deliver this year. The lad has a lot of talent, but does he truly have what it takes? If the MCL38 is going to be as good as we all think (I really hope so), then that question should be answered this year. I'm a big fan of Lando and I want him to fulfil his true potential, knock on wood he makes steps to one day realising his true potential this season!
Many drivers like sainz, button, rosberg waited a long time for their first wins. As a mclaren fan norris time will come! Sometimes u need a bit of patience in f1
By looking at red bull and Max all i can say is
Lando nowins 😆😆😆
@@gameofender4463 Lando Norris has been driving the fourth/ fifth best car on the grid and sometimes the 10th best car on the grid. He hasnt been in a RB rocket ship or a period when Mercedes dominated. Your statement is completely unfair and unthinking. He has dominated his team mates for the last three years. He scored six 2nd places in 11 races plus a third. Everyone says if the RB wasnt so good Lando would have a number of wins by now. Other than that you have to luck in to a win. Jensen Button only won 1 race in 9 years and then only 6 in the year he won the Wdc.
Talent? Yes he has
Does he have what it takes? No he doesn't have Max's killer instinct
Is the car gonna be good? Yes they've an amazing trajectory, Question is how good.
He is not an fresh face in the pitlane. We know his true potential.
He is fast, very fast and very good over long runs.
But he lacks the true racer instincts to finish the job in the end. But then so did Rosberg.
@@angryboianimates4444 Max can't have no bad luck in 24 race weekends.
And if the car is good and everything falls into place. Then sure Lando has a shot.
I just don't see him capable of challenging max for the championship regardless of how good the Mclaren will be.
To me Lando is like Jenson Button. Takes a long ass time to get a first win, and the only way he'll be able to win a title is if his team nails new regs and has a fairly dominant car for at least half a season. Both Jenson and Lando are great drivers who can win a title in the best car without issue. But if it's a genuine tough battle between multiple teams and drivers then it's not them who would come out on top. Jenson proved so, let's see if Lando does or if he proves me wrong instead.
I think Jenson Button did have it in him to take a battle all the way to the end and actually end up on top, and had he done to with anyone I think it would definitely be against Hamilton
@@GameOver-nm2us McLaren had a car quick enough to win the title in 2010 and 2012 (reliability notwithstanding), but Jenson was evidently not the guy to put up the fight in those seasons, it was Lewis. And despite Lewis clearly being hit with more bad luck, ruining his title chances, he still finished ahead of Jenson both times. So no, I definitely do not think Jenson would've ever beaten Lewis in title fight. The only time Jenson beat Lewis was in 2011, but that was a 2023-esque year, no one was fighting for the title besides Seb; and it just so happened that Lewis had his worst season in F1 when Jenson had his best season.
@@Robalexe Hamilton had enough raw speed and pace, but to be completely honest, he lacked experience. At that point Button would've been much more experienced, giving him advantage in tire wear, and pushing the car to just a little more and not crash while doing so. It would be extremely close but I think in 2011, had it not been for Redbull, and Hamilton's bad luck; we could've had one of the closest and most competitive battles ever in F1, and ultimately resulting in Button being crowned 2 time world champion.
@@GameOver-nm2us If Lewis beat Fernando as a rookie in the best car, there's no way he'd lose to Jenson after over 4 seasons of experience in F1. And we can't say for sure Button would've won 2011 without RB, because drivers perform differently when they fight for podiums and the odd win vs championships. And again, 2011 was Jenson's best year and Lewis' worst year, so if that's what it takes for Jenson to beat him over a season that's quite damning for every single other scenario possible.
@@Robalexe Agree to disagree.
Redbull has a large head start in development. It’s still going to be tough for any team to compete
this is my concern for 24', they basically had both chips won by mid-way so they could start dev on the new car so they could development to improve the little things like if everyone gains .5 but RB doesn't cook it tires then its going to be more of the same.
@@tlreclipse1126they started working on 2024 car in September or something ig
honestly i'm ok with red bull dominance for now as long as they aren't winning nearly every race, but that's just because 2023 was so shit that i have no expectations
The lineup is strong. But I don't think they're ready yet. To face off verstappen or Hamilton you've got to have a little bit more...which I don't think neither Lando nor McLaren have yet
@@gameofender4463 Jesus ender guy...long time no see. Sup
Hahhaha what are u talking about Hamilton’s time is over man get over it…
@@ElBulPagani this is what someone who doesnt understand racing would say.
Lando has fought Hamilton and verstappen multiple times successfully throughout his career, especially in 2021.
@@thomas-wm4rz Just as well as Leclerc has. Both aren't particularly known for their consistency nor resilience. But we wait to observe, seeing as McLaren is pitted to be red bull's closest challenger. Should be exciting
I hope McLaren did some analysis (even outside the windtunnel with flow vis or whatever) during last year's off-track time of how the aero worked differently between the B spec car and the one from before Austria. I also hoped they played around with various suspension geometries and suspension setups just to see if they can fix the handling issue Lando, Daniel, Carlos and even Oscar complained about.
Stella said they found the problem and are on it, but it could take time.
@@thomas-wm4rz Oscar still puzzles me. How he handled that car in his rookie season against a very talented and by now experienced teammate. That has been the teams goldenboy for quiet some time.
@barneyklingenberg4078 Well Oscar was prepared like no rookie in a long time. He nearly made as many laps as a F1 driver last season. That he's good is obvious from his junior career.
And yeah lando is experienced by now that's true, but he was nearly 3 years younger at his debut than oscar and is still just a little older than him. Let's see how it will be next season with different circumstances even though oscar really kept a cool head until now.
Do you really think they haven’t thought about all of this?
It's early days, but I think there is a pretty strong excuse being developed in Milton Keynes right now
*distant, yet somehow ominously approaching sounds of a song about some guy named super max*
I find it interesting that many people keep saying that McLaren needs to give Lando a car capable of winning. I think they have. It's not capable of winning the championship, but the fact Lando has not yet won a race is as much down to him as it is McLaren. He has been there five years so he would know all the engineers and should know what he needs from them and the car. I don't think he has any chance of winning the championship this year but if he can get a couple of wins it will lift his confidence and he could be fighting for titles in the next few years. If he cracks under pressure again though and Oscar manages a couple of wins he may never have a shot at the title.
The livery looks amazing
I disagree. It looks uninspired
@@justinburley8659looks a bit like the 2003 Arrows. Not to bad at all.
I just hope the new layout isn't like the matrix management structure again and that Stella more so just trusts Sanchez, Marshall and Prodromou's individual judgment and expertise. I hope they can express their creative ideas fully, work well together and harmoniously with good understanding of each others' restrictions/constraints, have a good understanding and real-world correlation with their design philosophies and upgrade packages. I hope Mercedes also doesn't stay in this rabbit hole of their flawed design philosophy.
I'm still mad at McLaren for not going Full Chrome in Silverstone 🤬 Unforgivable.
I miss the Vodafone livery on McLaren
shut up
Mclarens biggest advantage is the extra wind tunnel time. They’ve had 6 months with an extra 20% ATR (being ranked 6th but with the second fastest car) and will have another 6 months with an extra 10% (finishing 4th again with 2nd fastest car)
Red Bulls also had it’s ATR cut by 10% and Mc Laren unlike Mercedes don’t need to change concept
This is Mclaren’s opportunity if it doesn't come (and it might not, they’re not experienced front runners anymore) there is no excuse, besides the other teams did a better job
Babe wake up, Aldas just uploaded
This gives me hope that a Lego set of this car that has been rumored is coming. Lol I know it's off topic but I'm huge collector of Lego and maybe that set could be part of the reason they reveal the livery early? Or some other collaboration. Back to the livery, I love the look of the stealth livery. I love how their pixelated sponsor logo thing looks against the black/orange. Looks modern.
Aldas is way too optimistic tbh, I’m expecting some gradual development from McLaren to catch Verstappen
Redbull and Verstappen are a pretty good excuse to be fair.
Mercedes and Hamilton too was well as Ferrari and Leclerc(and others of course). In an highly competitive environment there are no guaranteed wins, everybody is doing everything to beat the others. Hopefully McLaren will be up there with the others and be able to fight with them
I think there should be a rule that the entire car must be painted, if you want black then paint it black. Would save of a lot of issues of teams deciding whether it's worth leaving large patches of car bare in order to save weight.
Totally agree, they need to win a race or two this year. The car took a great turn this past year and the team seems gelled. Id love to see them beat merc this year.
The car looks amazing and it surely will stand out in both the sunlight and the floodlights. Don't much care for the chrome numbers because they will be barely visible from afar.
As for the team's expectations, there are way too many variables to contend with, within the new team structure. Strategy needs to be more on point.
A strong driver line up can either be in tune with the objective or massively contentious.
Lando has had the time to find his limits and make the mistakes in doing so. He has to drive way more calculated if he wants to beat Max or even Oscar. He needs that Win.
Oscar is a mighty quick learner and will undoubtedly find a way to get that tire management under control.
McLaren have a good overall package but they have to have the consistency to perform 24 + 6 times. Red Bull more than proved that it's possible so they have a very steep hill to climb.
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If Red Bull‘s rivals figure out how to catch them we might be in with a chance of having a 3-way fight to the title. It’s highly unlikely but man can only dream
Could be 4 way
@@shreyasmahendra6809 it will be 1 way
No chance. Red Bull will dominate next year as well imho. Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes could snatch a win over the season, but I don't think anyone will challenge duo Newey-Verstappen.
As Max fan I really really hope they win some races this year, like Ferrari.
Max fan here too. Sure, I get your point, but don't tell me that getting a 24/24 wouldn't be amazing for Max and/or RB😂😂😂. Sure, most likely this season will be more evenly matched, but RB developing the 2024 car almost since July/August, even developing the 2025 car already, could mean that 2024 will be as or more dominant than 2023
Agreed. They’ve everything there! They need to be winning races this season. I’d argue more than just one! Not saying they should be winning 9/10 races, but 2/3 should be the goal (at least).
I'm a mclaren fan but we got to be reaslitic. We would be lucky to get one win this season. What I want is consistency. I want to see us maintain a good performance from start to finish. It's all when and good turning up in second half of season like 2023. Or going all guns blazing in 2021. But if we want to think about championships u need consistency. A 4th place is the target for me
I can see tension arising in several teams which may impact results.
Merc, Alpine, McLaren, maybe AT .. and Haas for different reasons may all see driver pairings that have heated moments on track affecting outcomes. McLaren have a strong pair, but ILando won’t sit easily behind Oscar if that is the case.
about half a year after i got into f1 i started supporting lando and mclaren instantly and to me it will be gutting if lado leaves
I think the mimimum goal this year is P2 in the world consturctors and atleast 1 win for each driver
Although the car looks incredible. For 2025 i seriously think there should be some rule implemented that atleast 75% of the car needs to be painted or something like that. It's sad seeing every car using more and more black
i never liked the orange. chrome is what mclaren always looked best in. but the blend between the 2 colors do look nice.
this is the future popping in to say hello
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
You forget about the las vegas livery with the jack daniels
I can't believe you talked about the new livery and just flat out ignored the super cool chrome driver numbers!
Well put together, as awlways, Aldas!
2025 could be a 2012 with Mclaren, Aston, Merc and Ferrari vs Red Bull
So...Logan will be the Maldonado. I'm in.
Without the blue colour, it’s now a Duracell livery from the side.
I think FIA shoud add a rule for minimum paint weight. If you want exposed carbon it have to be clear coated. I dont like any of the new designs with 50% or more carbon on all cars.
Mclaren have said they will be on top form in 2025 but I am hopeful they will be very strong in 2024 . Lando is vital to them . Oscar is a great talent with a lot of potential but Lando delivers and is the most important driver to them and he is loyal. In races he is brilliant. I assume he will wait until he drives the new car and then if he is happy they need to come up with serious top driver money and he is already on $20m a year. Stella has said they have identified some issues on the limit on the car that could have affected Lando and the team on a couple of occasions screwed up and called him back in leaving him just one chance to get a time. I dont think he has anything to worry about.
And yet when the opportunity to win the sprint in Qatar came up, what happened? Oscar took it with both hands and converted, while Norris choked. Again.
@@walover165 I take it your an Oscar fan and want to find any opportunity , real or fictional , to show your fandom and run Lando down.
You know as well as I know that they drive for the same team so will be driving under strict orders not to battle or have any coming together. The sprint race is a crowd pleaser, for the reason why they are their, the GP ,the following day.
Oscar did very well in qualifying and was on pole and Lando was second , a great start for the team. Lando would only have won that race if he had got Oscar at the start. The whole race was barely 10 laps of competitive driving with three red flags and lack of DRS for 6 laps in an 18 lap race.
Lando is a team player and simply followed Oscar home and helped to shield Oscar.
Choked ? What planet are you on. get real and understand driving for a team.
Oscar has let Lando past in GP because Lando is faster in GP races and Lando simply demonstrated that he wont race when it wont be better for the team.
@@bjs7442 Yes, Norris choked. He could have taken the Sprint pole, but he ran wide on the very last corner. He could have challenged Oscar for the lead, but he blew the start. Even in main qualifying, he blew a front row start by having lap time after lap time deleted. Oscar also had a lap time deleted that cost him a top 3 start, but he was sensible enough to set a banker lap which meant he was still high enough up the grid to take advantage. Yes, Qatar was one big Norris choke. Not for the first time and won't be the last.
@@walover165 So every time a driver doesnt get on pole they choked ? Shouts to Max . "Hey Max you choke when Charles beats you to pole" oh and when you dont take the lead when your not on pole you choked Max. Charles on pole overtaken by Lando , oh dear Charles choked again.
Oh Japanese GP Oscar loses second at the start to Lando. Oscar choked in the race too finishing 17 secs behind Lando.
Well Lando outqualified and out raced Oscar by a huge margin so in your juvenile language Oscar choked more than Lando and in my language Lando simply was more consistent and drove better in 2023.
Although I support Lando I am also supportive of Oscar he is a great young driver and I want Mclaren to do well.
I have a grown up view of F1 and performances and not filled with juvenile driver hate. They all risk their lives and deserve our respect
@@walover165Qatar was a bad weekend for Norris. The car was fast enough to qualify on the front row and potentially even win the race - Norris had the pace to qualify on pole. He blew a good banker lap at the start of Q3, lost multiple tenths on his final flying lap (which was deleted anyway) due to a conservative approach and finished behind his teammate.
forgot the vegas livery lol
"Hopefully new liveries" I feel ya lol
My main shock from the livery is that there's no hint of Monster on it??? Like it was big news when they announced it that they left Mercedes for Mclaren but then there's nothing on the car?? Makes me think this isn't really the final livery and there will be updates to it in February...
without having watched the video, doesn't the title apply to all teams in the top 5? They all know how to design the car basically and they all spend the same so ... can't let RB speed off into the distance once again.
Do they? Mercedes for example wants to build a complete new car and had lots of trial and error updates last season.
luckily for me the stealth livery was my favorite last year so this new one looks incredible!
No they don't. They just need to make sure they're competitive for the entire season, and you could say that about Ferrari, Mercedes, Aston and McLaren, who were all competitive but only for part of the season. Next step is having a car that works everywhere. For all of them. Once they've got that, they can think about winning races.
They absolutely have an excuse for 2024 - Red Bull are still clear. Their target is 2025 when they've fully developed a car with the wind tunnel, new simulator & the new technical structure.
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@@Robalexethat is a false quote. The new wind tunnel has solely worked on the MCL68 but the development of that car started way before it was functional. Besides, the genius of Rob Marshall & David Sanchez is much more impactful than the new infrastructure.
@@glenrobinson10 I agree with you there. I expect McLaren to really come swinging in 2025 or at least the next regs, but 2024 should still only be an improvement on their 2023
@@RobalexeI'm fully expecting a consistent podium challenger that can win on a favourable track but they definitely have an "excuse" not to be winning every week.
@@glenrobinson10 I think that's what Aldas was referring to. He said he expects McLaren to win a race this year, not to challenge for the title
It's not really fair to say that the new staff arrivals will have much effect on this year because they only started in January so it's only fair to judge them from next year, also definitely not the best financial position they've been in, it's the healthiest it's been for a long time but nothing compared to them having the mercedes works deal in the late 90s to early 00s and probably not as good as when they had all the honda money coming in in the mid 10s
You have to hit that spot where it matters for you to win,check what exactly is holding you back and then you will be unstoppable✌️
Clean and tidy.. cool looking livery.
I remember the 2018 McLaren barely having any sponsors, how times have changed
I expect big things from them this year...only if red bull drop a little bit and have a smaller gap than last season in bahrain i expect mclaren to win 1-2 races
I'm so excited for McLaren and I'm not jus saying tht as a papaya I mean it. But I'm not convinced were ready yet and ngl I think we will go through tht RB faze pre 2021 of having a car that can fight for the occasional win but not a championship till late in the seasons when it's basically to late like RB were known for pre 2021 but im so excited
Hmmm. I think the title charge will start next season. This season will be a case of 1-3 victories this season. That wouldn’t be disappointing, Red Bull will be even better this season. The pieces are in place for 2025 not 2024
They should have even more orange/papaya. And more special liveries for everyone!
we need the drivers this year we have to man
Marshall and Sanchez didn't arrive at McLaren until 1 January 2024. I think McLaren will be closer this year, but 2025 might be the year they really compete for wins. I have a feeling Merc will come out swinging in 6 weeks, taking it to RB.
All McLaren fans loved all the liveries of 2023. Marlboro and Vodafone throwbacks were a dub and the stealth mode was slick and led to their 2024 car which is their best look since vodafone tbh. That Abu Dhabi livery was mid af tho. The blue ruined every livery since the 2019 car
Mclaren *HAS no more excuses
Let's hope that what happened with Leclerc and Ferrari doesn't happen to Norris and McLaren
Talking about liveries, I hope Ferrari use more yellow. Their cars look better with a little yellow on their car
I can smell the hopium...
I want to believe.
I must.
The „video Title“ is easily said while hanging around at the computer.
You say :They HAVE to win
I say: only a Sith deals in absolutes
Good evening sir
They just need to get rid of those horrific chrome tyre covers
Now Ferrari needs to bring back white
It's the 20th aniversary of the F2004 so it would be fitting
We’re going to see newfound levels of choke from Lando this year
i want lando to stay with mclaren because with a good car it would be a great underdog story
In the modern era, as a customer team, the odds are still against McLaren.
Can’t wait to see a Monster livery
Zak Brown has lost a ton of weight. Good for him!
All I can say is, everyone will bring a good and a fast car. Not Maclaren alone that will make the jump this year. Everyone is working flat out and it will be development game throughout the year.
But mclaren understands their car, got the right concept and the trend is your friend. Aston, merc and ferrari don't have that.
@@thomas-wm4rz Aston had the right concept, they just got massively outdeveloped.
I think McLaren might start the season 2nd best, but will expect Mercedes and maybe Ferrari to catch up throughout the season
What is that bloody popping noise? 🤣
I think they have a 1-2 year window to figure it out.
They are still a Mercedes customer team, that would be the biggest hurdle.
They are the biggest hope that someone could fight Red Bull reguarly in 24
Unless Red Bull drop out of the grid then no one is gonna win a race this season. The big question is what's the margin that Max wins by.
Won’t happen Max should’ve won every race this year he didn’t. Others will catch up soon
Singapore bout to be a bloodbath then
I am just saying that Mercedes will be fighting against Red bull according to someone working at McLaren and also watch out for Stake and Williams, don't be surprised if they have a jump like Aston Martin had
Are you sobber?
Ready to win? If they were fast enough🙄
I disagree on the have to. Red Bull won all bar 1 race last season, they're still the team to beat.
McLaren not ready too win yet too early
They might win some races in the upcoming season. I just don't see it happen on an consistent basis.
Let’s go McLaren
If McLaren is able to battle for wins, do you think they’ll let Oscar race or force him to play the support role for Lando? I hope Oscar isn’t so “laid back” that he’ll accept whatever….
Oscar has a longer contract than Lando and McLaren poached him from Alpine when they had the chance cuz they knew he was that good it'd be worth it... they will obviously let him race unless he's half a second off the pace like in some races last year
@@RobalexeNorris has a long-term contract now.
@@gameofender4463Difference is Webber was never faster than Vettel whereas Piastri has the potential to be as good as if not better than Norris
Bro thinks anyone expects someone to mclaren beating red bull, bro is delusional
it's an arrows 😆😆😆
The only teams who are allowed to is carbon fiber is Mercedes, Alfa Romeo and Ferrari 🙏🏿🙏🏿😭😭
2025 is when they have no more excuses. sorry for ruining your clickbait title, they made that clear in the past, and they have only just gotten their new recruits from ferrari and redbull working for them this january. 2025 is when there is truly no more excuse
Lando will win the championships in 2026 after the rule changes
They probably won't win especially when Ferrari and Mercedes gained 4 - 5 seconds in lap time
McLaren is now just a black car with orange off color. I bet that everyone else on the grid is going to do the same thing .... black carbon fibre with some color. Kinda boring.
If McLaren start the third season of these regs in the bottom quarter again after all this hype.... Idk feels like some higher ups would need to leave.
Zero experience in the team is what will ultimately cos them this year. Look at Charles in 22’, despite him having more success he still wasn’t fully ready to challenge max (although it was mostly the team, he made some mistakes in a few races)
Mclaren and mostly Norris need to show he can get poles/wins before we talk about a potential championship contender
Piastri is ready.
I must be the only one who doesn't like this livery.. It's mostly dark and black and hides the shape of the car. Just nothing to see. Also, the idea that livery is an indicator of how a team might perform is kind of silly..
It's not mostly dark and black. And this isn't the car for this year, it's just the livery for this year painted on the car from last year
@@Robalexe It does have a lot of black, that's undeniable. Are you saying it's going to look drastically different on a new car? Cmon now
@@MyRealName I'm not saying that but it's definitely not hiding the shape of the car imo, I can see it clearly personally
@@Robalexe Alright, I just prefer more colors. I do believe that would make shapes easier to see. So.. Maybe it's black in specific areas on purpose. They do have a lot of wind tunnel hours for this season :)
You mean, Lando has no more excuses. Glad to hear that from you
I think it's a bloody stupid take.
Lando has outperformed his teammates and his car on plenty of occasions.
Then Mclaren is in no position to hire anyone that is better then Lando across the board.
Considering there is only 1 driver on the grid currently that has both the future remaining and a skillset that is superior to Lando's. And we can assume Mclaren is in no position to hire the now 3 time world champion.
Lando beat a struggling Daniel and struggled sometimes against a rookie last year. He is good but so far nothing special has really been shown. I think he will struggle against Piastri even more as time goes@@barneyklingenberg4078
@@daverudaRicciardo only seemed to struggle because his benchmark was Norris. He wasn’t even particularly bad in 2021, especially not in the second half of the season.
Piastri has been rated as a better driver than Leclerc by Prema engineers. He also happened to be one of the most prepared rookies in F1 history’s Norris battered him last season - they weren’t even in the same area code in races
They're not going to win though....
Its that Hamilton bloody black guy dam hes just been too good too fast and too strong that he in fact beat McLaren when his Mercedes was a pile of crap and more like a midfield car so its that Hamilton guy who's been the problem why excuses keep coming why could'nt we just beat him just like Redbull cheating.
No, they don't "have" to win, this off-season nonsense is a waste of time
They ain't winning anything though let's be real
I'm sorry but McLaren won't beat Mercedes over a season
Why? They outscored Mercedes in the second half of the season if i recall.
Oscar and Lando are working together better. And both have shown the consistency.
Honestly i can see Mclaren beat Redbull in the constructor's if their car keeps improving.
Even though that is more down to Perez's awful performances on saturday.
First lmao
1st
they wont do better than 4th this season