Thypoch Eureka 50mm review | Vintage all-rounder
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- This new 50mm collapsible lens from Thypoch took me by surprise. It was announced seemingly out of nowhere and has a uniquely vintage design. I wanted to find out if it was mostly a gimmick, or could hold up to modern optical standards.
Thypoch Eureka: thypoch.com/Eureka
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►CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
01:02 - Design
02:40 - Image rendering/performance
04:13 - Bokeh
05:15 - Flares
05:40 - Distortion
05:50 - Focus accuracy
06:14 - samples
06:49 - Who is it for?
08:30 - samples
08:59 - Price, value
09:37 - Quality, finish
10:20 - Zeiss Sonnar comparison
11:52 - Image info + samples
14:27 - Criticisms
15:31 - My final thoughts
16:47 - Conclusion & thanks
#thypoch #leica #eureka50
This review is truly second to none Hashem!
Thanks mate! 😃
I was wondering about this lens, great video as always mate! Thanks for the info👍
Glad you liked it!
This review hits a beautiful balance between being entertaining and informative. Great job!
Thanks very much!
thanks for a great review, always enjoy your content , cheers
Much appreciated!
This a great lens, I just wish they had focused on more unusual focal lengths first (such as compact wide angle lenses, which tend to be very expensive for vintage copies on the M or LTM mounts). I own three very good collapsible 50mm f/2 LTM lenses as it is, and my lens kit isn't that large (and 50mm isn't even my favorite focal length).
Who knows, if they keep things up we could have something like that in the future!
Love this review. Thanks a million!
Thanks for watching it!
Very nice review man. Very useful information.
Thanks a ton!
Great review as always!
Thank you!
Very comprehensive review. Thank you. I know it is a demo version, but do you think the surface finish looks a bit rough? I’m just sitting here looking at my Leica IIIf with Elmar 50mm as comparison. The distance engraving of the old Elmar looks a cut above but then I’m only comparing to demo lens on screen. Since getting the Leica, I do like these collapsible lenses for Street and discrete
Thanks! I didn't find it rough, personally. Unless you mean in the literal sense, as in having a "graininess"? If so, the coating does have a bit of texture to it. I don't currently have any old chrome Leica lenses for comparison, but I would assume there is naturally some difference there.
@@pushingfilm yes by rough I mean the texture of the finish seems quite ‘grainy’ in the images. I saw this also on another demo review too. To me that makes it look ‘cheaper’ than the lens is intended to be. That’s just my view having handled many lenses over the last 40 yrs. But of course one can’t tell until one has it in hand and can feel the quality of the engineering.
You are setting the standard for lens reviews right there! 😂 Great stuff, loved it. Also that sonnar is pure butter.
Thanks man! 😁
Great review. The best so far for this lens. I still can't decide whether I want a Leitz 5cm summicron collapsible or a 50 eureka for my M3 :) It's hard to find a summicron without defects, and here the thypoch is not only cheaper but also new glass
Thanks! Yeah it's a tough choice, we have a lot of options at our disposal these days 😁
Hello! @7:45 nice color of phoenix 200. Do you scan film with your digital camera? color grading with the NLP or presets of yours? Any tip will be helpful. Thank you!
Hey! It was a lab scan on a Noritsu. I go into detail about all the film and processing in a specific chapter of this video if you want more info 🙂👍
A very cool lens; if I was in the market for a manual 50, I’d consider it just for looks alone 😅
Justified! 🙂
I would much prefer to see a comparison between this lens and perhaps a collapsible Summicron or even an F2.8 Elmar.
Agreed, I would like to see that too! If I try either some day I'll be sure to compare.
Thanks for the review, This looks good performer overall but in characterstic perspective (especially 'swirly' effect because you mentioned) I dont see much of that. By the way currently I own Noctilux 50mm f1.2 (re-issued version), LLL 1966 50mm f1.2, Summitar 50mm F2 (Hex blade), Meyer Optic Biotar 58mm F1.5 ii, Minolta 45mm F2.8 LTM.
Glad you liked it. That's true, it is quite subtle compared to some lenses. It's easier to see at 10:43 next to my Sonnar. Even then, I think "swirling" is partially an illusion created by the cat-eye effect at the periphery. That sounds like a nice collection you have!
Great review! I don't have a leica or really care for the look this lens gives lol, but im glad to see a new lens on the market.
That's fair! Thanks for watching :-)
i'm debating between the aluminum or the brass for my MP. I need a small 50 I have the 35 voigtlander ultron V2 on there and I love it but the voigtlander 50 I have is too big. It renders photos beautifully but just too large for my liking and adds to the weight. Hashem what is your opinion on aluminim vs brass. I love brass myself but I'd like to know your thoughts.
Tough choice! I'd probably get the aluminium if prioritising weight. It's much cheaper, and available sooner. Then, I could always sell/upgrade to the brass later. But so far, I've only handled the brass version... it feels great; well balanced with the body.
@@pushingfilm thanks Hashem. I put myself on the waitlist for the aluminum when it comes out but no one knows when they will actually get it, hmmmm. To be honest I really like the idea of brass BUT you are right; I can always upgrade if I want to when it comes out.
great! how did u get e100 to look so good?
Thanks :-) Not sure! I always tend to find that E100 looks good. It could also be the push + hard light. I spoke about the film information in a chapter of the video if you want more.
@@pushingfilm thanks man! ill try pushing, was it one stop?
focus shift is typical in asymmetrical designs (such as sonnars and some old teles). But symmetrical planars/double gauss -like this_ are well controlled
Double gauss also exhibits focus shifts, not as much though.
Well, I tested for it and it was there! But yeah, not significant enough for me to worry. I would probably shift the focus more through my own movement/breathing 😅
Is that your VW? Very cool!! Do an episode on it!
It's not! We just loaned it to do some promo content for the company.
The price of the brass version is pretty strange. If I want a vintage 50 f2 I would just fork an additional 100 and get an old Summicron with the added benefit of more value stability.
The results of the lens are nice though.
Summicron Rigids are not $100 more than the Thypoch.
@@jpm5205 I think what he meant was collapsable summicron 50mm, not the rigid version
@@taehanyoun8126Ooohhh. Yes, very good point.
@@jpm5205 you can get a 11819 for roughly a grand
It's pretty hard to find an old Summicron with clean glass for a better price than this. But if you can, I'm sure it would be worthwhile and probably retain more value as you said.
Sigh. I own too many 50mm lenses for M mount already. Pass. But I like it.
What's your top choice?
@@pushingfilm Leitz Summicron DR 50mm, I just love everything about it. It is bitingly sharp wide open, very impressive for such an old lens. The build quality is second to none. It has the most usable focus/distance scale for zone focusing out of any 50mm lens. It's only weakness is that you can't really use it on any of the digital Leica M bodies.
The other top choice is the Summilux Asph., I got the version before the current one with the close focus range. It is such a magical lens. The box was damaged (not the lens), so I got a brand new copy for 10% off from my local Leica store.
Other great 50mm lenses I have:
Voigtlaender 50mm f1.2 - it's great. Not much to complain about other than its size. It can focus closer than the f1.0 from Voigtlaender and is much cheaper.
Voigtlaender 50mm Apo Lanthar f2 - easily the sharpest lens out of all lenses I own.
Leitz 50mm Elmar collapsible - smallest option I have for the M3 and MP I shoot with on film. It's sharp. But my copy didn't age that well. I got mine very cheap though. If I want to pocket my M3, that is what I am taking.
Zeiss 45mm f2 Planar - I converted the G version to M mount using the Funleader heliocoid (which they are selling again, grab one while you can). I actually love the rendering of this lens a lot. Better than any of the Voigtlaenders, even the Apo (which is too clean). The extra 5mm less in focal length render a slightly wider field of view I enjoy for a lot of scenarios. Since it brings up the 50mm frame lines, I kind of treat it like a 50mm.
Thank you for reviewing. I like the effort you have put into it.
There is however a big but:
What I absolutely deteste and this is one reason why I HATE Chinese lens manufacturers: They have simply copied the industrial design of Leica.
I am not a Leica fanboy but those Chinese companies (TT Artisan and all the others) rest on the archiovements of others. Today, with computers and stuff they still need to cpoy a design of others. This is one reason, why I will never buy a Chinese made lens.
I would have tossed this lens back to China.
I have a kodak retina iiic and the look is identical and the camera costs significantly less. if you are shooting film then maybe consider it
Great review but I’d stick to Leica or Zeiss. The swirling look is horrid - The Chinese just don’t have it.
There's only one exception: the viltrox 27mm f1.2. IMO most interesting lens on the Fuji x system, and a CHINESE one. Crazy
Many Leica 50mm f2 lenses of the era of the lens this is copying (Taylor Hobson 50mm F2 Anastigmat) up to and including the first Summicron, are also pretty swirly up close and wide open, so this is absolutely not some sort of characteristic of Chinese lenses.
I wouldn't call it "horrid", or even bad by any means... but fair enough!
It’s actually just like the Leitz Summitar lens, the swirly Bokeh was the look back then.
@@vickey59 doesn't make it less ugly