Is Dropping A Bowling Ball On A Snowboard Insole A Legitimate Test?
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
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Nice work guys! Everyone’s foot is different is not the answer that people want to hear, but it’s the answer that people need to hear.
More non-scripted TC content! He’s so much better to listen to when he’s just talking off-cuff rather than trying to read his lines, it makes a world of difference both in tone and cadence as well as actual content.
And for what it’s worth I use the super feet out of my daily shoes and it changed my experience completely, having something that fits your foot correctly is everything
Idk how you don’t get more views you’ve been consistently making solid content
Because he don’t sell out like no punk biitch coz that ain’t what he am
Because he tells people things they don’t wanna hear
I’m 56, and have been using the remind insoles in new set of K2 Ender boots. First season I can remember when I didn’t actually think about my knees. I’m sure it’s a combination of lots of factors, but foot comfort goes a long way in having a great day on the snow
Ever since I got plantar fasciitis from running in old skate shoes, I've been rocking shred soles. Great upgrade for my feet. Great video guys.
Rode my nidecker boots all season, didn't take the insoles out until I was putting them away for storage and man they are horrible. I will be looking to upgrade the insoles for next season and see what difference they make 🤙
I have a very high medial arch and an almost flat lateral arch so the gamechanger’s moldability makes them very suited for my use. I was surprised by how much they expand when they mold. That might be why the stitching was required, the change in volume can be quite remarkable and there’s no way for adhesive to hold.
Obvious downside is that if you need a lot of heel pocket on your footbed they probably aren’t the way to go because the gamechangers don’t gain much of one when molded.
And the idea behind the flat insoles is a barefoot shoe style measure, the idea being to intentionally not support the arch to force your foot to be stronger, though I wouldn’t do this with snowboard boots for a variety of reasons.
Where in Summit County can I find remind insoles going to be there in a couple days. Any shop/boot fitter there you recommend?
Definitely worth it to try different types of insoles and see what works for you. I use a variety of Remind for snowboarding, hiking, everyday walking, and dress work shoes. Definitely help with my foot alignment, arch support, and impact dampening.
Medics and Medic Impact for snowboarding and everyday, and the OG Cush model for some shoes with less vertical space up front.
I bought a pair of the Remind Cushes for my mom, she started to have knee and foot issues about a year ago. She is in her late 60's and has been doing a ton of Ballroom and Latin dancing, like 2x a weekend almost every week for years. She said they were a game changer for her.
Used the stock vans to break in my boots. Definitely better than other stock insoles but they still flop around and lack support. Remind Cush were a huge improvement.
Saving my knees out here. I would also throw out a recommendation for superfeet. They have a thin and regular winter insole for those of us who crowd the boot with our feet but it still does a great job!
I find the stock insoles inner soles in my ride fuse work really well for me. They are definitely well built for stock insoles. First time I haven’t needed my sidas non custom insoles
I got some of those fp insoles elite and after a week maybe pulled them out and put back in the stock insole. They felt too squishy and no board feel. I got them to take up some space in the boots since they were 5mm vs the 3mm stock insole. But definitely not worth the $70 I paid for those with shipping.
Thanks for covering insoles! Boots and insoles make such a difference with comfort. And comfort means you can ride more!
Heel raise inserts did a lot for me. I noticed a deep squat put a lot of weight on my toes, same with a squat in the gym. Feels significantly more natural with the inserts.
I used a few shred and remind. But I ended up using FP game changer. It does become hardened after heat mode and I like them a lot. But they don’t have hard plastic bottom so maybe cannot work the same way if you change your boots
You can remold them a couple times
love my shred soles. HIGHLY recommended, the only draw back was that i cracked the heal cup area after about a dozen days. but they still feel great
To be fair here, I skate FP shoes, and they are the best feeling skate shoes I’ve owned when it comes to impacts.
I grabbed the FP for my work boots. I work on a stone floor in wet conditions. Extremely dampening and held its shape for quite a while, but absolutely no arch support what-so-ever. Almost like the inverse of arch support.
Tried superfeet, and those lasted about 2 weeks. Heel cup shredded into a million pieces.
I'll give shred soles and remind a shot.
I like FP for my work boots as well. Great for dampening in a snowboard boot but once it’s packed out I find needing more arch support. There’s a sidas I run that fits my foot perfect. My wife tried superfeet and returned them in a week.
I've been running remind on my work boots and they've held up great
I've used Remind Medics for at least 3 seasons now. I've riden without them before and my feet and knees hurt without them. They work so well that i bought them for my work boots (standing 12hrs/day).
The sidas ones worked perfectly fine for me since they so nicely support your feet. But if they could make them with more dampning that would be endgame stuff
1) - I think the music needs to be turned down a touch more. Especially on head phones the high tones drown you out
2) - I have the remind insoles but want slightly more arch support, recommendations?
FP can be easily heatmolded at home and when put into the boot you feel the difference.
Without a last they aren't molding accurately.
I use the Sidas low arch winter foot beds as ones with high arches cramp my feet. I skate the FP's and those have been good for the impacts. If you have space you can layer an insole that fits you best, and then use one of the thin flat FP's for the impact
Don't do that.
@@AngrySnowboarder I can't fit two as my boots are snug as they are, but they do offer newer insoles that have a better shaped heel cup which you might have missed
That game changers insole is really good for flat feet. Remind not bad but doesnt fill in as well.
Totally agree
Remind for a few years now, hell yea. When boots are fresh I start with their lower-profile one (5mm?) and once my boots have a season or so where they start to feel a tad sloppy in the 2nd half of the day (sweaty feet gang)... I pop in the gel version (7mm?) and it really helps the boots come back to life and fit a bit tighter. Right or wrong it helps to not churn through boots quite as fast riding 60+ days a year. Remind insoles all day man
Hi so what would you choose for your 9yr old goddaughter that s been riding since age 3 ? I've just went to Walmart and got her a pair of adult insoles but almost match up to her size 2 or 3 foot .. Kids feet grow to fast.. for customs .. thanx for your content, we are from Indiana but I brought her to your home mountain.. she loved all the glades acouple years ago..
At that age unless she's damaged her foot she's probably fine with whatever as she'll outgrow it in a season or less.
Thanx Avran that's pretty much what I was thinking... sorry just saw this reply.. hope that 2ft you guys received over the weekend was good stuff..........
.... sLiDe🏂SaFe
I switched from orange sidas mid insoles to the remind medic impact and had to remove the butterfly inserts in my boots. They’re much thicker and lift my heel into the perfect spot, w/ much better arch support. I was wearing thick socks to take up the extra space, but don’t have to do that anymore. I’ve had 4 pairs of fp insoles now, they’re comfy but had virtually no arch support. I could send you a molded fp insole if you want to prove that molding it doesn’t do much
Nah I know they don’t do much, the peasants are the only ones that seem to disagree about that.
Do you know if there’s any significant difference between the DFP and Sidas customs? Got some DFPs made, but I’m finding that they are causing some big toe irritation towards the end do the day that I presume is more related to boot fit, but I also felt the insoles might be a touch narrow.
It's in the posting and the foam. If you're having irritation n the DFP it probably just needs a little tweak with some grinding on the toe area.
@@AngrySnowboarder thanks, that makes sense now that I’ve pulled the boot apart! Trying to hold off on prematurely buying new boots so I’ll give it a try. Do you know if the insole should be fully supporting the foot or is it okay if the foot sits over the edge? I had mentioned to my fitter that I had wide fit boots so I wasn’t sure if the insoles they had would work with like a gap at the edge.
Ideally you want it to fit under the full width of the foot.
@@AngrySnowboarder Ah dang okay, so I think the root cause is that my insole isn't wide enough. I have no idea why they fitted me with this one then considering it was supposed to be a custom!
Ive used the FP Gamechangers for skateboarding for years and they have helped me immensely. Threw some in my Vans boots this season and I definitely think it felt more comfortable than the V1 pop cushion. The one thing to note is you HAVE to heat up the FP insoles so they mold to your feet or its a waste of your money. Thanks for making consistently good content guys 👍
Avran and TC in the same room!?
It’s just as trippy for me : 0 legendary crossover
Any insole, to your knowledge, particularly great for very high arches?
The best I’ve seen is shred soles so far those are really high
@@AngrySnowboarderThanks!
No Superfeet?
FP's are nice insoles for walking on hard surfaces or skatebooarding, but they're not for snowboarding. Sidas, Patriot, Superfeet are solid choices for a Board or Skis. I'm afriad I can't easily get Remind or Shred soles in the UK, but they seem like nice options if your foot shape fits them!
Have you tried the Patriot ones?
public service announcement to not be like me and forget to remove your stock insoles before putting in your new remind insoles. ouch.
You legend
Get checked for a mental disability
I miss Kevin and hope llama farm business is going well, but the new guy is cool. Nice video lads.
SLAYER!!!
Yep the "bowling ball test" is a marketing bs BUT
For me personally fp gamechangers were the true gamechangers. They made my boots waaaay more comfortable and allowed me to ride much more without foot pain or soreness. Dampening is there for sure.
Sometimes i have to switch to my old reminds or vans popcush when my main pair of boots get soaked during the day in spring and my feet just don't feel good on them in comparison to fp.
And they are durable, glue quality is not an issue. I rode gamechangers for 4 seasons 50+ days each and they still last!
With all respect, you even didn't mold them! Come on!
They're the crocs of footbeds.
This statement hurts my feelings 😂
Sorry to see you've made your mind not having the insoles molded first
This! The molding is needed. As an older rider, these have helped save my knees. Yall need to actually mold them and try them before just writing them off.
First off shoving them in an oven to mold them isn't going to change how I feel about these. Second off shoving them in an oven and not having a last to use to build a heel pocket and form an arch isn't going to help them. You guys are being sold a feature that you can't even properly use. You're getting maybe 20% of what you should from these. I've built a couple thousand insoles over the 10 years I was a boot fitter. If you don't have a last to build the footbed from it's worthless as it won't develop a real heel pocket to stabilize the ankle and line it up to the internal jbar, you can't build the arch properly or tweak it to compensate for supination or pronation. Basically you're not doing shit to help yourself and more than anything I'm betting it's sucking up volume in a boot that's probably too big for you and not fitting right.
@@AngrySnowboarderThe new FP Gamechanger Elite Pros have a custom heel pocket, you absolutely do need to put them in the oven, as the new models arch firms up afterwards.
It is still not a huge amount of arch support, but it is more than original version and the dampening is incredible.
The custom heel pocket provides arch stabilization.
Ive used Superfeet, Sidas and FP Gamechangers (originals and elite pro).The new FP Elite Pros blow the others out the water for me.
The game changers toe pad took up too much space and made my mortons neuroma worse and not better.
You should make your own insoles and call them Raining Blood!
I would buy those for every shoe or boot I own...and for my friends
@@jaredbryce7964 haha me too
Perhaps a Canadian 5-pin bowling ball test would work better
Slayer!
I wouldn’t completely write the FPs off. Those things rule for skateboarding. The elite foam is super dense and durable. It doesn’t ever pack out and get paper thin in the toes like your typical insole.
And the impact protection is great. I’m just not sure how much it’s needed in a snowboard boot, because I’ve never gotten a heel bruise in boots. I imagine that the dampening is pretty good though.
And their marketing is pretty definitely pretty corny haha. It almost does them a disservice and makes them seem cheaper than they are.
This is why I don't use boots, insoles are a marketing sham! Flipflops all season for me, like that surfy ride
Real men use moccasins.
Anybody here tried Superfeet Winter Support?
Done it. Great for mid to flat feet, not the best heat retention though
@@AngrySnowboarder thanks! I love the brand, I use the blues for my daily shoes. Wondering if the winter ones are as good. Will definitely give it a try.
@@AngrySnowboarder glad its not me - while not the winter support, I just tried the blue superfeet and after one run I put the remind back in. the blue was so cold
I run Superfeet Winter Thin. I find their arch support to be much more supportive and a fair bit longer than Remind. Definitely high enough for my feet, which have higher arches.
That said, I had to put one size up in my boots and cut more off the end to get a long enough arch support, even with their longer arch (insole size E in 32 TM2 Jones, size 8).
Have had no issues with lack of heat, even in -30 days. Didn't have cold issues in my old boots either- Burton Kendos. IMO the important part of insoles for warmth is making sure the insole fits your foot contour as well as possible, so you can bootfit better to distribute pressure evenly, and allow your foot (mostly toes) to wiggle, but not move in the boot. This way you don't cut off circulation, and you can wiggle your toes to keep blood flowing when you stand still. Better blood flow means warmer feet.
@@AngrySnowboarder You mentioned good for mid-low arches for Winter Support- what are your thoughts on Superfeet with arch support matching your arch? I know they have various arch heights & shapes, and the shops near me that sell them seem to sell more green/copper/carbon than winter for snowboarding.
As well, your opinion on importance of heel &/or forefoot cushioning vs each other & arch support? I always found good arch support helped the front enough that cushioning up there felt less important than the other two, but curious to hear your opinion- you've done much more boarding and almost definitely hit much more park than me
The problem with Superfeet is they use a harder posting that changes how the boot will flex. They're realistically designed for a ski boot over a snowboard boot. If that's a non issue for you then that's awesome. I always used to have to cut into the posting to create some flex points.
Toe cushioning you're dead on as the arch will compensate for that and most people do not land on their toes aggressively enough to warrant it. If they are, they need to reconsider how they ride. But heel dampening is far more important. If you think about how you're landing on a snowboard if you're doing it right you're either centered on your foot perfectly with even weight distribution or you're slightly heel heavy. As such you want to make sure that your binding, boot shell, and insole are going to absorb as much of that as possible before it gets to the foot in the boot. This also makes sense as chatter on a snowboard will go up into the binding, boot, and then arch/heel to the ankle, knee, hip, and finally the lower back. So you want to dissipate that as much as possible and save your body that stress. A great footbed will not only cradle the arch and allow proper movement inside it, but it'll also dampen that energy and reduce joint stress, muscle fatigue, and pain. Good posting on a footbed aids with this while bad posting will amplify these issues. It also comes down to what you want from the performance of the footbed as well.
Bought the fp insoles for my ski boots and what a mistake, caused immense foot pain. Overpriced garbage.
Wrong FP insoles work saved my knees. FP have high and low arch the shoes feel already broken in.
Are they compatible with clews?
Wow you must be a real expert in what you do.
@@AngrySnowboarder ?? I started snowboarding in 1987 haven’t missed a season yet. I didn’t go off the bowling ball test. Jaws is why I bought them in the 1st place.
ive been snowboarding since i was born in 1987. one day a year
@@phorestpsy lol I was 12 was 1st Big White allowed snowboarding on the resort. Had to have an extra pass to verify you could snowboard. Was so lame, next season was scrapped.
No Viagra for me😅
Switched to Remind in 2022...never looked back🤙
Currently rocking Medics in my 🏂boots✔
Even put the Remind Destin in my work/fishing boots. 🎣
🍻 my dudes!
Remind Insole for life