@@z.q.z5513 Micah:(Laughs manically) Pinkertons: A gunshot? Up there!!! (Pinkertons then shoot a barrage of bullets at Micah thus murdering him) The end.
It’s too bad they scrapped this visual from the game. After seeing that clip in one of the trailers, I was looking forward to seeing that scene in the story mode.
Sounds like Micah. -It is said that in a newspaper that Micah rivaled Dutch himself in terms of how dangerous he was and how much crimes he committed (Donno about in the whole world ) -And betraying the gang -Unknown location
The Ultimate Bad Ending: After Arthur does the most horrible things imaginable, the ending of it gets worse.. Arthur dosent help Abigail, Sadie lost faith in Arthur, Tilly gets kidnapped and killed, Jack becomes an orphan, Arthur betrays John and leaves him for the Pinkertons, and Micah gets away with the money. After all that ended, Arthur walks away from the chaos he caused, sits on a cliff, and waits for his TB to finally finish him off while watching the sunrise, and finally dies from his TB while rain drops fall on his worthless dead body...
Also a cutscene appears and its a pure black cougar running across a field in a dark stormy night hunting his high honor buck While the gang watches Arthur above with pure disgust and hatred...
Watching the sunrise? That's more of a high honor peaceful death, It would make more sense if you get Ambushed by Pinkertons while walking away. You die that night by the hands of Agent Milton and Agent Ross from hanging, then it would view Arthur's face while he's dying slowly from hanging and the cutscene with the black cougar would appear. Like the normal endings. High honor: You die peacefully from your disease Low honor: You die getting killed off
@@wolverine_779 now, I LOVE this idea, but I'm not sold on the choice of animal. Why a cougar? Rockstar chose the coyote because they're known for preying on the weak (a rather dishonorable act). I mean, maybe a cougar could work as a representation of ultra low honor, but I don't see it.
Ultimate low honor: Arthur dies by hanging in the dead of night by the Pinkertons. Then shows the forest at almost pitch black black while it's snowing. A wolf like figure shows up with glowing red eyes. Instead of the dead deer, the wolf is next to the crosses of his wife's and daughter's grave, and both of the crosses are broken and worn out. The wolf goes into the den, then the area fogs up. Then finally, the entire mountain fogs up as the light fades.
You can really hear the disappointment in the music too. I believe you hear only Dutch in this version, and in the high honor version you also hear Lenny and Hosea.
Yeah, because it’s meant to be depressing, to represent the depression, knowing that Arthur (in this version) was truly nothing more than a lowlife killer and murderer who put money and himself above all else and now, he will suffer the might of God’s wrath for his sins.
@@jad77777 Well, at some point, Arthur did believe that there was a God, and generally, good deeds is something we as Christians are meant to do, and we are punished for doing bad towards others. So this whole "Heaven can only be obtained through salvation" is probably just an excuse by "Christians" who behave towards others, but rather than accepting their consequences and trying to reform themselves, they tell themselves, "Oh, I'll still get to Heaven, because I put my faith in Jesus Christ." When in reality, people who do good would be saved, and they would be accepted into Heaven. Besides, wouldn't the good non-believers achieve salvation by God accepting them into heaven, because they realise there is a Father above who loves them?
@@bluexboxgamer2613 Nope. The Bible says otherwise. He that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him (John 3:36). Salvation is only obtained through faith in Christ (Acts 4:12, John 14:6). They who don't trust in the gospel (that Christ died for their sins, was buried and rose again the third day for our justification), is going to burn in hell. 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV [3] But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: [4] in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Salvation is not by our righteous deeds (Titus 3:5) or following the law (Romans 3:20-28) Galatians 3:10-14 KJV [10] For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. [11] But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. [12] And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. [13] Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: [14] that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
@@bluexboxgamer2613 there is none good. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). The standard of God is perfection (Galatians 3:10, James 2:10). You're either justified by the law (sinless perfection), which nobody has (Only Jesus was sinless), or you're justified by grace through faith (Galatians 2:16, Romans 3:28), but not both. Galatians 5:4 KJV [4] Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV [8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] not of works, lest any man should boast. If you try to work your way to heaven and establish your own righteousness, Christ died in vain for you (Galatians 2:21). Romans 1:16 KJV [16] For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
@@jad77777 Well, yes, it is good to believe in God and to be a Christian, but wouldn't you think that God is a man of mercy, for he created us and understands us the best, and would forgive the non-believers, because those who are righteous will be awarded in the afterlife, and therefore, they will embrace salvation. "Father, forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing."
Ultimate Low Honor Ending: Arthur refuses to go save Abigail, which leads to Sadie being killed at Van Horn, whilst Abigail is shipped off to be trialed for murder. Arthur, realising the gang is at it's tipping point, tries to flee with the money he got from the train heist, whilst Micah betrays the gang and hands them off to the Pinkertons, but John catches Arthur and despite Arthur's pleas for mercy, John doesn't accept them, and before Arthur could save himself, John shoots him in the chest, taking Arthur's money, before saving Jack just in time before Tilly was kidnapped and later killed by Pinkertons. He couldn't save Abigail though, and as a result, John now is a single father. However, Arthur was not killed by that revolver round and instead moans and groans in intense pain. A hungry cougar, not hesitant on missing out on such as a easy meal, finishes Arthur and devours his corpse in the heavy rain. When Charles returns from Canada, he couldn't bring himself to bury Arthur, or what was left of him, as Arthur was such a cruel and evil man, Charles just couldn't bury him and leaves Arthur's corpse to decompose in the ground.
not possible since Abigail being alive is canon in RDR1 so this would not work, maybe it would made more sense if Abigail still somehow manages to get a revolver and shoots Milton and then she and Sadie escaped and lived happily ever after
@@iamheldhostage ayo we just killed a bunch of innocent guards and stole precious stuff people need to stay alive and survive but take the pic rq ong we’ll be out soon fr
No not really, i love that they put antique looking photos of the rdr2 world in loading screen. Song is so good because it was played at the most crucial and heart wrenching moment in the game.
Literally Spec ops the line SPOILER FROM A OLD AF GAME . . . You can only be evil on the game but its slowly so the lower you get, the real are the loading screens letting you know how horrible you are for keeping playing but the game it self is the main character's hell and he's doomed to live in it forever I hope you could understand this, my English isn't that good
Alternate Ending: Arthur snitches out the gang because he was tired of Dutch, but John was accidentally found as well. Micah gunfight would've never have happened. Now that's really low honor. Arthur gets to retire somewhere dry, but then the pinkertons turn on him.
@@theforgottenscotsman7659 A bit, except John was forced to go after his fellow gang members to ensure the safety of his family, whereas in this scenario, Arthur willingly gave the gang up.
This version sells it for me, really sells the idea that Arthur is condemned to damnation and could not redeem himself. The organ in the background sounds so sinister and evil, it sounds like he’s standing at the gates of hell
*Chapter 2* Mrs. Downes: You ever worry about eternity? You should. Arthur: I hope it’s hot and terrible Mrs. Downes. Otherwise I feel I’ve been sold a false bill of goods… He really finds out the hard way if the player chooses to be Dishonorable.
Ultimate Low Honor: Arthur decides to cut and run after Dutch turns evil. He steals the money, executes Agent Milton, and bugs out before Micah can even find him. But he is eventually on his deathbed from tuberculosis. On his last day, he sees a newspaper. John’s entire family, including little Jack, was killed. Dutch and Micah were wanted, but nowhere to be found. He realizes what a piece of shit man he is, and screams out in horror. Then he coughs up blood, and collapses on the floor, looking into his fireplace. This version of the song plays. We see the wolf, covered in blood, limping into the cave, but it collapses before it can get inside. Arthur is too evil. Not even hell wants him. He is erased from the cosmos, and you don’t even get to play the epilogue.
-You left Abagail behind (Saide and Abagail got hanged.) -You let John down when he came back to camp, so he went to find Tilly. -You let Dutch/Micah kill Miss Grimshaw -You get killed off because the gang needs to "Let the weak go."
@@defense9969 well, Milton could’ve said that Micah was the rat to cause more fighting in the gang, so that they all fuck up and either kill each other or the gang gets broken apart and then they can just take them one by one and hang them. There was no use in saying that Molly was the rat, since Arthur wouldn’t have done anything, she was dead. Saying that an alive gang member is the rat though, would cause fighting and then they kill each other, the others are caught then hanged.
And then in epilogue you see that arthur on dutch and micah's side and after John remembered that him wanted to his wife gets hanged and his kid becoming a orphan, John kills arthur and his dead body with micah's dead body laying on ground and rooting
Lowest Honor Ending: After returning from Guarma, Arthur was noticing a big change in Dutch. Letting John get captured raised his suspicions, and the deaths of Leviticus and Colm were just nails in the coffin. After his diagnosis, he saw all purpose in his life fade away and finally snapped. He wanted nothing more than to be free. He walked up to Milton and his men and told them everything. Blackwater, Cornwall, Saint Denis, Beaver Hollow, everything that went down in the last twenty years. That and 2000 dollars was enough to pardon his freedom. He knew the Pinkertons wouldn’t be enough to take down the remains of the Van Der Linde gang, and he would need a diversion of some kind. Dutch had recently begun usage of the Native Americans, meaning he was on top of the Army’s hit list. Again, he marched up to the Army. He told them about Beaver Hollow and all of Dutch’s plans, and organisation of an ambush began. He told the Pinkertons that Dutch was at his most vulnerable, and so began their onslaught. Right as the US army was charging into battle. Everything was going right to plan. He slipped through camp and greeted his fellow gang members for the final time, going through the cave and up the mountains to a grassy ridge where he would overlook the chaos with a long scoped rifle. All at once, 50 Pinkertons charged from the north and 50 soldiers charged from the east. For a few minutes the Gang was defending well, until Micah was struck in the shoulder. Charles was hit right between the eyes and Javier followed soon after. Bill tried to get on his horse and flee, but the Pinkertons had formed a barricade on the path and executed him promptly. Arthur laid his rifle beside him and smiled. He could finally be free. The Pinkertons, the army, Dutch, none of them could hold him back any longer. All his pain finally added up to something. For however longer his disease would allow him to live, he would be a free man. New name, new country. After all his pain, would he finally have a good ending? Below him, a wildfire had broken out and the Army were beginning to evacuate as gunshots ceased. The dark forest was rapidly consumed by bright flame and black smoke covered the white moon. Click. Arthur’s heart dropped to his stomach as he heard a gun cocked behind his head. He raised his hands and gradually rose to his feet, when the attacker introduced himself with two words. “Hello Son.” He spun around and saw a bloodied Dutch with torn clothes and a beaten face. The two stared at each other for a stretched moment, before Arthur tackled him to the floor. He held Dutch’s left arm to the stone floor and grabbed the revolver. Dutch resisted his grip just enough to throw the revolver forward off of the cliff face, leaving them both empty handed. Arthur let go of Dutch and lunged for his rifle, only for it to be kicked out of his hands. Another figure was standing over him with a revolver at his head and a foot at his hand. It was John, who looked just as beaten as Dutch. He raised his foot and beckoned Arthur to get up. Arthur stood with his hands in the air and John slowly upholstered his second gun, throwing it towards Dutch. Now the two of them were holding Arthur at gunpoint behind of a 50 foot drop. Arthur’s eyes darted between John and Dutch, and an image of Colm entered his mind. He finally knows how he felt in his final moments. Caught off guard, no way out. The only way he was leaving now was falling down that cliff into the burning remains of a camp. He looked up at a mountain ridge, and saw a jet black coyote staring down at him with shining green eyes. He blinked, and another Coyote was standing by his side, then another, another, until a pack of five coyotes were watching him with crazed, hungry eyes. The futility of everything was crashing down on him, and he laughed hysterically as Dutch and John remained speechless. He stepped forward and dealt a devilish hook to Dutch’s battered face, and was met with a gunshot to the rib. He stumbled backwards, then forwards, then sideways straight off of the ridge. The last thing he saw was a burned camp full of corpses, some he recognised, some he didn’t. Getting closer, and closer, until…
bad ending: arthur failed to save sadie and abigail from agent milton and they are both killed, tilly is captured and killed by the pinkertons and jack becomes an orphan, arthur finds out that the rat is micah but it's too late because he has already killed dutch and Miss Grimshaw, john goes back to camp and runs away with arthur, arthur betrays john and leaves him to micah and the pinkertons, john is dead, micah escaped with the money and becomes a ruthless outlaw and starts his own gang, arthur is safe but he will live the rest of his life with regret.
Nah, Arthur would eventually die of TB and likely not regret his decisions and plus, it would high Honor in the sense he tried to save Abigail or Sadie, but a low honor version would be Arthur just fleeing and abandoned Sadie and Abigail.
Imagine this playing whilst Arthur stares down Micah while "dying" of TB. The most intense and evil eyes of the eldritch abomination, about to be formerly known as Arthur Morgan, glow a cold white in their pupils and penetrates the night's darkness as it grins maniacally, staring down the poor rat that as his very soul shivers at the knowledge of the monster this betrayal has unleashed. The dying man starts to transform, gradually but noticeably, his face warps, eye sockets weep of blood and extremities elongate. The moment this thing's last breaths become slow, soft and bellowing laughter is when Micah knew his days we're numbered as he spends whatever time he has left running for his life. His time has come to join the thousands of souls this thing has taken when it wore the skin of a man that no longer existed. Dutch knew, John knew, they all knew something was off as he came back from that first job Strauss gave him. But their greed and madness has finally brought upon an unimaginable horror that the world may never be able to comprehend. No single mercy from God can save him nor the world from what was unleashed that day. TLDR: Undead Nightmare 2, please.
The extremely bad ending: Arthur Raids an theater and he kills everyone Arthur betrays John by pushing him into the bridge that they put explosives on Arthur destroys valentine Arthur betrays the whole gang And finally Arthur goes somewhere and he gets ambushed but he dies and finally then rain and thunder starts while rain is dropping on his worthless corpse
Low honor diff ending Arthur kills micah and dutch and kills john and cures his tb he also kills abigail and beats jack up and leaves him it's now 1914 and jack kills arthur
ultimate low honor: arthur doesnt help sadie save abigail, sadie gets shot by milton and abigail gets shipped off to be tried and hanged for murder pinkertons find tilly and jack, tilly gets shot and jack becomes an orphan arthur returns for the money, leaving john to run off on his own arthur and micah fight, but micah gets the upper hand dutch shows up and leaves the both of them, sick with them and with himself before being caught and arrested by pinkerton agents micah kills arthur, swearing to go after john and kill him too he takes the money and finds john, quickly killing him before running off to make his own gang of lowlifes micahs gang goes on to terrorize folk from valentine to van horn, no one strong or brave enough to stop him
The Ultimate Low Honor Ending: After years of horrible crimes committed against the guilty and the innocent, Arthur realizes that the Van Der Linde Gang is almost finished. Realizing his upcoming death to tuberculosis, he sees a golden opportunity. Arthur rats out the gang to the Pinkertons, earning his ultimate freedom at the cost of the gang's demise. From atop a hill near Beaver Hollow, Arthur watches as the gang is dismembered. He watches his old family die. With a satchel full of cash and a gleam in his eye, Arthur falls back against the damp rocks, coughing and wheezing. He succumbs to TB, being the final member of the Van Der Linde Gang to die.
the ending where Arthur Morgan does the worst crimes and actions that would consider him unredeemable he kill off towns with his skills the people who plead for mercy from him were killed with no hesitation the people he needed to save were forgotten he stole from the rich and the poor took what was not needed but what was wanted made every wife of a sheriff or police officer a widow his spirit animals (both sides) look in disappointment and fear he died running with money and not with friends.
I was going for high honor and i was so close to low honor that i got the lower honor last ride but high honor ending on my first playthrough, so its kinda possible.
Ultimate Low honor : Arthur doesn't save Abigail and Sadie, Sadie gets killed by Pinkertons, Arthur doesn't help John But he sides with Dutch and they realize Micah was a rat, he gets killed by Dutch and Arthur then their camp gets raided by a army of pinkertons and they manage to escape from them, but. John comes back to camp after it got abandoned and he sees the camp destroyed and fire everywhere making him sad while he walks away to a city/village. A few days later he founds Sadie got killed and Abigail prob died too, Jack becomes a orphan , Tilly gets captured by Pinkertons as well. John becomes depressed and lives in Blackwater or Saint Denis streets meanwhile Dutch and Arthur becomes a bigger threat to pinkertons since Arthur lost his mind like Dutch. Both turns into war criminals and kills lots of lawmen and Pinkertons. John finds in a newspaper about Dutch and Arthur and he starts searching for them. Arthur sick somehow got better instead worse. John somehow finds the gang in woods and he asks them where they've been when he got shot off the train. Dutch and Arthur responds to him "we've thought you was the rat, Marston." Later John joins them and becomes the deadliest Gang in America.
I know this comment is probably gonna being unread, but this song would fit perfectly to an alternate Ending, where Athur gets hang for all the bad things he has done, if his honor is ultra low. Kinda like he's in jail and thinks about everything bad and good he left behind before he'll pass away.
Would have been nice if you had max honor arthur would still die but he would run away and die on his own terms but ultra low honor could be arthur gets overwehlmed by pinkertons and he gets caught and trialed or dutch goes with micah while Micah quickdraws his gun kills arthur and laughs and goes with dutch
I like the love honor Music most but i hate that Micha shoots Arthur so i like more when he dies of TB not that i like Arthurs Death but it looks so Peace full
I have a feel that i got a bad ending. My entire relationship with my ex girlfriend was hurt really often by her traumas after her ex. Now we break up, and she is meeting with him, after all of that. I feel like shit.
Sad thing is everyone that wouldve stood by Arthur's side at the stand off was either dead ( Sean, Lenny, Hosea) Or Ran Away (Sadie And Charles)
Not Sean
@@jordanaftab1181 nah Sean would have, he admired arthur, kieran probably would have sided with Arthur as well by chapter 6 too
@@chineseobama6043 Kieran does not have the balls and Sean admires Dutch not Arthur
@ArcticLynx Nope Sean is way more loyal to Dutch Arthur says that to almost everyone and Sean defiantly does not think Arthur is his best friend
@@jordanaftab1181 nope you are biased and wrong I win bye bye
"You're not better than me, Morgan."
In a sick voice whatever you say fool
@@chriswescott2592 "Damn you."
@@tomskowski6239 Damn us BOTH
@@davidelinaro8524 Micah:shoots Arthur in the head
@@z.q.z5513
Micah:(Laughs manically)
Pinkertons: A gunshot? Up there!!! (Pinkertons then shoot a barrage of bullets at Micah thus murdering him)
The end.
Ultra low ending: the cougar
Low ending: the wolf
High ending: the buck
Ultra high ending: the eagle
I think a panther would be more fitting than a cougar but I agree with the eagle
@@tornox3728 same thing innit 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What about a rat or a rattlesnake as the ultra low honor?
@@crocutabruta9723 yeah, a snake or a viper would be more appropriate for ultra low Honor.
More like a Vulture for the lowest
When you successfully Rob and Kill Mr. Pearson in the Epilogue.
It's blasphemy that John even gets the option to do that to Pearson.
Man,you are REAL MONSTER
@@WonkyTonkBotty Agreed, it definitely should be locked, like how can't shoot the gang members in camp. It doesn't make sense for John to do that.
@@themadtitan7603 Exactly, even the most dishonourable John/Arthur wouldn't sink to that level. That's Micah/chapter 6+ Dutch territory.
@@WonkyTonkBotty boohoo
Red : Red Harlow
Dead : John Marston
Redemption : Arthur Morgan
Youre a genius
Nice
@@amortality999 what he said
wtf how come i never realized ts
It’s too bad they scrapped this visual from the game. After seeing that clip in one of the trailers, I was looking forward to seeing that scene in the story mode.
Same
It’s in the game. It’s just not a scene. It’s when Arthur and Sean burn the grays fields.
I think it's there when the gang attacks the oil factory with the indians
its there the when you sneak into cornwalls place and steal documents its in one of the scenes i think
idk im not sure
@@elipop8054 That's it.
Worst Ending: You betray your gang and now you are the most wanted bandit in the world and your location is unknow
Sounds like Micah.
-It is said that in a newspaper that Micah rivaled Dutch himself in terms of how dangerous he was and how much crimes he committed (Donno about in the whole world )
-And betraying the gang
-Unknown location
Ice age baby: *Pathetic*
The Hidden Outlaw
Well, let's how far can he go with his TB
I agree that is the worst ending you can conceive of
The Ultimate Bad Ending:
After Arthur does the most horrible things imaginable, the ending of it gets worse..
Arthur dosent help Abigail, Sadie lost faith in Arthur, Tilly gets kidnapped and killed, Jack becomes an orphan, Arthur betrays John and leaves him for the Pinkertons, and Micah gets away with the money. After all that ended, Arthur walks away from the chaos he caused, sits on a cliff, and waits for his TB to finally finish him off while watching the sunrise, and finally dies from his TB while rain drops fall on his worthless dead body...
Also a cutscene appears and its a pure black cougar running across a field in a dark stormy night hunting his high honor buck
While the gang watches Arthur above with pure disgust and hatred...
Watching the sunrise? That's more of a high honor peaceful death, It would make more sense if you get Ambushed by Pinkertons while walking away.
You die that night by the hands of Agent Milton and Agent Ross from hanging, then it would view Arthur's face while he's dying slowly from hanging and the cutscene with the black cougar would appear.
Like the normal endings.
High honor: You die peacefully from your disease
Low honor: You die getting killed off
@@defense9969 Oh right, didnt think about that lol
Terrifyingly good list, but ultimate bad Honor would be also be teaming up with Micah.
@@wolverine_779 now, I LOVE this idea, but I'm not sold on the choice of animal. Why a cougar? Rockstar chose the coyote because they're known for preying on the weak (a rather dishonorable act). I mean, maybe a cougar could work as a representation of ultra low honor, but I don't see it.
could feel it in my chest. It’s just hard to listen to this song because we know what happens.
I agree
"You're not better than me, Morgan."
@@alexm.alvarez528 "Whatever you Say You Fool"
@@JustTheOneShotKill “d@mn you😡”
@AdolfShitler-dt7cy"DAMN US BOTH"
Ultimate low honor: Arthur dies by hanging in the dead of night by the Pinkertons. Then shows the forest at almost pitch black black while it's snowing. A wolf like figure shows up with glowing red eyes. Instead of the dead deer, the wolf is next to the crosses of his wife's and daughter's grave, and both of the crosses are broken and worn out. The wolf goes into the den, then the area fogs up. Then finally, the entire mountain fogs up as the light fades.
Pinkerton: "may God show mercy, cause we sure as hell won't."
Arthur: "Whatever you say, but it's not God I'll be seein'."
*Arthur dies by hanging*
God that sounds horrible, and in that I mean that's and amazing idea but Jesus christ that sounds horrible
talk about tragic grimdark fate for a fallen villain
Sounds like the ending I would get
Nice, but slight problem. Arthur had a SON, not daughter.
See Arthur in the hell makes me sad, he is a good man
You can really hear the disappointment in the music too. I believe you hear only Dutch in this version, and in the high honor version you also hear Lenny and Hosea.
@@mirredegroot Sean too.
@@kimberlyh.1090 Oh really? I didn't pick that up!
@@mirredegroot Yup. Lenny, Hosea, and Sean in the High Honor version.
He still sacrificed himself so didnt he still get his redemption?
This version sounds a lot sadder than the high honor one 😢
Yeah, because it’s meant to be depressing, to represent the depression, knowing that Arthur (in this version) was truly nothing more than a lowlife killer and murderer who put money and himself above all else and now, he will suffer the might of God’s wrath for his sins.
@@jad77777 Well, at some point, Arthur did believe that there was a God, and generally, good deeds is something we as Christians are meant to do, and we are punished for doing bad towards others. So this whole "Heaven can only be obtained through salvation" is probably just an excuse by "Christians" who behave towards others, but rather than accepting their consequences and trying to reform themselves, they tell themselves, "Oh, I'll still get to Heaven, because I put my faith in Jesus Christ." When in reality, people who do good would be saved, and they would be accepted into Heaven. Besides, wouldn't the good non-believers achieve salvation by God accepting them into heaven, because they realise there is a Father above who loves them?
@@bluexboxgamer2613 Nope. The Bible says otherwise. He that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him (John 3:36). Salvation is only obtained through faith in Christ (Acts 4:12, John 14:6). They who don't trust in the gospel (that Christ died for their sins, was buried and rose again the third day for our justification), is going to burn in hell.
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV
[3] But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: [4] in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Salvation is not by our righteous deeds (Titus 3:5) or following the law (Romans 3:20-28)
Galatians 3:10-14 KJV
[10] For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. [11] But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. [12] And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. [13] Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: [14] that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
@@bluexboxgamer2613 there is none good. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). The standard of God is perfection (Galatians 3:10, James 2:10). You're either justified by the law (sinless perfection), which nobody has (Only Jesus was sinless), or you're justified by grace through faith (Galatians 2:16, Romans 3:28), but not both.
Galatians 5:4 KJV
[4] Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] not of works, lest any man should boast.
If you try to work your way to heaven and establish your own righteousness, Christ died in vain for you (Galatians 2:21).
Romans 1:16 KJV
[16] For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
@@jad77777 Well, yes, it is good to believe in God and to be a Christian, but wouldn't you think that God is a man of mercy, for he created us and understands us the best, and would forgive the non-believers, because those who are righteous will be awarded in the afterlife, and therefore, they will embrace salvation. "Father, forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing."
This is perfect thank you sir
According to the Bible, if you repent of your sins and redeem yourself, you can enter heaven, but Arthur probably went to hell with low honor.
@knight_561 maybe
Ultimate Low Honor Ending:
Arthur refuses to go save Abigail, which leads to Sadie being killed at Van Horn, whilst Abigail is shipped off to be trialed for murder. Arthur, realising the gang is at it's tipping point, tries to flee with the money he got from the train heist, whilst Micah betrays the gang and hands them off to the Pinkertons, but John catches Arthur and despite Arthur's pleas for mercy, John doesn't accept them, and before Arthur could save himself, John shoots him in the chest, taking Arthur's money, before saving Jack just in time before Tilly was kidnapped and later killed by Pinkertons. He couldn't save Abigail though, and as a result, John now is a single father. However, Arthur was not killed by that revolver round and instead moans and groans in intense pain. A hungry cougar, not hesitant on missing out on such as a easy meal, finishes Arthur and devours his corpse in the heavy rain. When Charles returns from Canada, he couldn't bring himself to bury Arthur, or what was left of him, as Arthur was such a cruel and evil man, Charles just couldn't bury him and leaves Arthur's corpse to decompose in the ground.
I would think a wolf but ok
@@obliviousollie1293 well, Ultimate Low Honor Arthur’s Spirit Animal is a Cougar, so it should be a cougar that kills him.
@@bluexboxgamer2613 understandable have a great day
not possible since Abigail being alive is canon in RDR1 so this would not work, maybe it would made more sense if Abigail still somehow manages to get a revolver and shoots Milton and then she and Sadie escaped and lived happily ever after
@@gamerjstudios yeah, but this Ultimate Low Honor scenario is might to be the worst case, where Arthur truly was a monster.
I always thought it said “may I stand on chicken” but I knew that couldn’t be right
Made me chuckle 😆
Now I can't unhear it
You stand on micahs(Chicken)body
Imagine Having loading screens like this depending on your honour!?
Would be less boring than still pics of strangers 😂
Rdr2 be showing us a picture of a gang stealing a train, yet somehow the gang members lets the cameraman to take them a picture
@@iamheldhostage ayo we just killed a bunch of innocent guards and stole precious stuff people need to stay alive and survive but take the pic rq ong we’ll be out soon fr
No not really, i love that they put antique looking photos of the rdr2 world in loading screen. Song is so good because it was played at the most crucial and heart wrenching moment in the game.
Literally Spec ops the line
SPOILER FROM A OLD AF GAME
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You can only be evil on the game but its slowly so the lower you get, the real are the loading screens letting you know how horrible you are for keeping playing but the game it self is the main character's hell and he's doomed to live in it forever
I hope you could understand this, my English isn't that good
May i stand on chicken
What 🤣
“You’re not better than me, Morgan!”
Here, Micah was right
Alternate Ending: Arthur snitches out the gang because he was tired of Dutch, but John was accidentally found as well. Micah gunfight would've never have happened. Now that's really low honor. Arthur gets to retire somewhere dry, but then the pinkertons turn on him.
So the ending is sort of like how John died?
@@theforgottenscotsman7659 A bit, except John was forced to go after his fellow gang members to ensure the safety of his family, whereas in this scenario, Arthur willingly gave the gang up.
This version sells it for me, really sells the idea that Arthur is condemned to damnation and could not redeem himself. The organ in the background sounds so sinister and evil, it sounds like he’s standing at the gates of hell
*Chapter 2*
Mrs. Downes: You ever worry about eternity? You should.
Arthur: I hope it’s hot and terrible Mrs. Downes. Otherwise I feel I’ve been sold a false bill of goods…
He really finds out the hard way if the player chooses to be Dishonorable.
Although I got the high honor verision, I can't stop listening to the low honor version, it sounds so dark and foreboding.
when you mod the game to play as Micah and hogtie Jack under train tracks
Okay, now that’s just so fucked up, I can’t even begin to say how fucked up that is. LOW HONOR -1,000,000
When you mod the game to play as Jack and hogtie micah under train tracks*
@@GamingWithJake1st That’s Ultimate High Honor.
@@bluexboxgamer2613 Thanks bxg
@@GamingWithJake1st any time.
Ultimate Low Honor: Arthur decides to cut and run after Dutch turns evil. He steals the money, executes Agent Milton, and bugs out before Micah can even find him. But he is eventually on his deathbed from tuberculosis. On his last day, he sees a newspaper. John’s entire family, including little Jack, was killed. Dutch and Micah were wanted, but nowhere to be found. He realizes what a piece of shit man he is, and screams out in horror. Then he coughs up blood, and collapses on the floor, looking into his fireplace. This version of the song plays. We see the wolf, covered in blood, limping into the cave, but it collapses before it can get inside.
Arthur is too evil. Not even hell wants him. He is erased from the cosmos, and you don’t even get to play the epilogue.
-You left Abagail behind (Saide and Abagail got hanged.)
-You let John down when he came back to camp, so he went to find Tilly.
-You let Dutch/Micah kill Miss Grimshaw
-You get killed off because the gang needs to "Let the weak go."
Just so you know, their names are Abigail and Sadie, not Abagail and Saide.
+You never found out that Micah was the rat because you never met Agent Milton who told you, so no one knew.
@@defense9969 well, Milton could’ve said that Micah was the rat to cause more fighting in the gang, so that they all fuck up and either kill each other or the gang gets broken apart and then they can just take them one by one and hang them.
There was no use in saying that Molly was the rat, since Arthur wouldn’t have done anything, she was dead. Saying that an alive gang member is the rat though, would cause fighting and then they kill each other, the others are caught then hanged.
If you were blindly loyal like Micah I don't think dutch would kill Arthur off.
And then in epilogue you see that arthur on dutch and micah's side and after John remembered that him wanted to his wife gets hanged and his kid becoming a orphan, John kills arthur and his dead body with micah's dead body laying on ground and rooting
R.I.P THE LEGEND OF THE WEST
you didn't play rdr1
John is legend of the west
arthur is legend of the east
And it all started when that horse bumped into the guy in saint denis
Lowest Honor Ending:
After returning from Guarma, Arthur was noticing a big change in Dutch. Letting John get captured raised his suspicions, and the deaths of Leviticus and Colm were just nails in the coffin. After his diagnosis, he saw all purpose in his life fade away and finally snapped. He wanted nothing more than to be free. He walked up to Milton and his men and told them everything. Blackwater, Cornwall, Saint Denis, Beaver Hollow, everything that went down in the last twenty years. That and 2000 dollars was enough to pardon his freedom. He knew the Pinkertons wouldn’t be enough to take down the remains of the Van Der Linde gang, and he would need a diversion of some kind. Dutch had recently begun usage of the Native Americans, meaning he was on top of the Army’s hit list. Again, he marched up to the Army. He told them about Beaver Hollow and all of Dutch’s plans, and organisation of an ambush began. He told the Pinkertons that Dutch was at his most vulnerable, and so began their onslaught. Right as the US army was charging into battle. Everything was going right to plan.
He slipped through camp and greeted his fellow gang members for the final time, going through the cave and up the mountains to a grassy ridge where he would overlook the chaos with a long scoped rifle. All at once, 50 Pinkertons charged from the north and 50 soldiers charged from the east. For a few minutes the Gang was defending well, until Micah was struck in the shoulder. Charles was hit right between the eyes and Javier followed soon after. Bill tried to get on his horse and flee, but the Pinkertons had formed a barricade on the path and executed him promptly. Arthur laid his rifle beside him and smiled. He could finally be free. The Pinkertons, the army, Dutch, none of them could hold him back any longer. All his pain finally added up to something. For however longer his disease would allow him to live, he would be a free man. New name, new country. After all his pain, would he finally have a good ending? Below him, a wildfire had broken out and the Army were beginning to evacuate as gunshots ceased. The dark forest was rapidly consumed by bright flame and black smoke covered the white moon. Click. Arthur’s heart dropped to his stomach as he heard a gun cocked behind his head. He raised his hands and gradually rose to his feet, when the attacker introduced himself with two words. “Hello Son.” He spun around and saw a bloodied Dutch with torn clothes and a beaten face. The two stared at each other for a stretched moment, before Arthur tackled him to the floor. He held Dutch’s left arm to the stone floor and grabbed the revolver. Dutch resisted his grip just enough to throw the revolver forward off of the cliff face, leaving them both empty handed. Arthur let go of Dutch and lunged for his rifle, only for it to be kicked out of his hands. Another figure was standing over him with a revolver at his head and a foot at his hand. It was John, who looked just as beaten as Dutch. He raised his foot and beckoned Arthur to get up. Arthur stood with his hands in the air and John slowly upholstered his second gun, throwing it towards Dutch. Now the two of them were holding Arthur at gunpoint behind of a 50 foot drop. Arthur’s eyes darted between John and Dutch, and an image of Colm entered his mind. He finally knows how he felt in his final moments. Caught off guard, no way out. The only way he was leaving now was falling down that cliff into the burning remains of a camp. He looked up at a mountain ridge, and saw a jet black coyote staring down at him with shining green eyes. He blinked, and another Coyote was standing by his side, then another, another, until a pack of five coyotes were watching him with crazed, hungry eyes. The futility of everything was crashing down on him, and he laughed hysterically as Dutch and John remained speechless. He stepped forward and dealt a devilish hook to Dutch’s battered face, and was met with a gunshot to the rib. He stumbled backwards, then forwards, then sideways straight off of the ridge. The last thing he saw was a burned camp full of corpses, some he recognised, some he didn’t. Getting closer, and closer, until…
This sounds like the call to hell
bad ending: arthur failed to save sadie and abigail from agent milton and they are both killed, tilly is captured and killed by the pinkertons and jack becomes an orphan, arthur finds out that the rat is micah but it's too late because he has already killed dutch and Miss Grimshaw, john goes back to camp and runs away with arthur, arthur betrays john and leaves him to micah and the pinkertons, john is dead, micah escaped with the money and becomes a ruthless outlaw and starts his own gang, arthur is safe but he will live the rest of his life with regret.
Nah, Arthur would eventually die of TB and likely not regret his decisions and plus, it would high Honor in the sense he tried to save Abigail or Sadie, but a low honor version would be Arthur just fleeing and abandoned Sadie and Abigail.
the smooth and weird piano melody on the back is stabbing me on my heart.
The one dislike is from Micah
True
Yeah
the four are from micah dutch bill and javier
Imagine this playing whilst Arthur stares down Micah while "dying" of TB. The most intense and evil eyes of the eldritch abomination, about to be formerly known as Arthur Morgan, glow a cold white in their pupils and penetrates the night's darkness as it grins maniacally, staring down the poor rat that as his very soul shivers at the knowledge of the monster this betrayal has unleashed. The dying man starts to transform, gradually but noticeably, his face warps, eye sockets weep of blood and extremities elongate. The moment this thing's last breaths become slow, soft and bellowing laughter is when Micah knew his days we're numbered as he spends whatever time he has left running for his life. His time has come to join the thousands of souls this thing has taken when it wore the skin of a man that no longer existed. Dutch knew, John knew, they all knew something was off as he came back from that first job Strauss gave him. But their greed and madness has finally brought upon an unimaginable horror that the world may never be able to comprehend. No single mercy from God can save him nor the world from what was unleashed that day.
TLDR: Undead Nightmare 2, please.
I want this to be played in my funeral after I get lung cancer from smoking.
"You lost my seek friend"
The extremely bad ending:
Arthur Raids an theater and he kills everyone
Arthur betrays John by pushing him into the bridge that they put explosives on
Arthur destroys valentine
Arthur betrays the whole gang
And finally Arthur goes somewhere and he gets ambushed but he dies and finally then rain and thunder starts while rain is dropping on his worthless corpse
Holy shit💀
Low honor diff ending
Arthur kills micah and dutch and kills john and cures his tb he also kills abigail and beats jack up and leaves him it's now 1914 and jack kills arthur
Lowest honor ending: Micah beats you nearly to death, Dutch shoots you
“Damn you Morgan, DAMN US BOTH”
Magnificent
Epic
ultimate low honor:
arthur doesnt help sadie save abigail, sadie gets shot by milton and abigail gets shipped off to be tried and hanged for murder
pinkertons find tilly and jack, tilly gets shot and jack becomes an orphan
arthur returns for the money, leaving john to run off on his own
arthur and micah fight, but micah gets the upper hand
dutch shows up and leaves the both of them, sick with them and with himself before being caught and arrested by pinkerton agents
micah kills arthur, swearing to go after john and kill him too
he takes the money and finds john, quickly killing him before running off to make his own gang of lowlifes
micahs gang goes on to terrorize folk from valentine to van horn, no one strong or brave enough to stop him
Where Dutch kills Arthur himself in the lowest honour ending
may I stand unshaken
Arthur : antagonize
defuse :I'm sorry i just thought I'd shake things up a bit
"DAMN US BOTH!"
I'm 3 years late but TENNIS BOAT
"I Guess........ I'm Afraid."
Amazing 🔥
Damn that picture is very epic where did you get it?
I was gonna ask the same thing
@@thekingdomeofwolves red dead redemption 2 trailer.
@@ipuncake8016 thanks
@@ipuncake8016 it was only in the tralier, never in the game
@@cannerin9578 He never said it was in the game.
"Well ... I must say Michael. I had a lot of fun." GTA 5 fan fiction alternative ending
Me after looking at my hand full of white stuff
remember “amazing studio productions” ?
kinda like this version its like a 'welcome to hell' vibe
The man among the boys who threw the shampoo all over the boys locker room and never confessed about it when the teacher asked about it :
The Ultimate Low Honor Ending:
After years of horrible crimes committed against the guilty and the innocent, Arthur realizes that the Van Der Linde Gang is almost finished. Realizing his upcoming death to tuberculosis, he sees a golden opportunity. Arthur rats out the gang to the Pinkertons, earning his ultimate freedom at the cost of the gang's demise. From atop a hill near Beaver Hollow, Arthur watches as the gang is dismembered. He watches his old family die. With a satchel full of cash and a gleam in his eye, Arthur falls back against the damp rocks, coughing and wheezing. He succumbs to TB, being the final member of the Van Der Linde Gang to die.
Sounds way more interesting than making micah, an obviously unlikeable character, a rat
Feels almost like breaking bad ending
Why is it so scary sounding
the ending where Arthur Morgan does the worst crimes and actions that would consider him unredeemable
he kill off towns with his skills
the people who plead for mercy from him were killed with no hesitation
the people he needed to save were forgotten
he stole from the rich and the poor
took what was not needed but what was wanted
made every wife of a sheriff or police officer a widow
his spirit animals (both sides) look in disappointment and fear
he died running with money and not with friends.
I actually cried.
Okay but it's literally impossible to get the Low Honor version of Arthur if you're not specifically going for it
I was going for high honor and i was so close to low honor that i got the lower honor last ride but high honor ending on my first playthrough, so its kinda possible.
What dutch heared when John approach him:
It's like the hell himself giving you the welcome
Это прекрасно 😢
Goosebumps omg
When i die play this music in my funeral
@Molten Dronyx i have a bad thing in my life....
Ultimate Low honor :
Arthur doesn't save Abigail and Sadie, Sadie gets killed by Pinkertons, Arthur doesn't help John But he sides with Dutch and they realize Micah was a rat, he gets killed by Dutch and Arthur then their camp gets raided by a army of pinkertons and they manage to escape from them, but. John comes back to camp after it got abandoned and he sees the camp destroyed and fire everywhere making him sad while he walks away to a city/village. A few days later he founds Sadie got killed and Abigail prob died too, Jack becomes a orphan , Tilly gets captured by Pinkertons as well. John becomes depressed and lives in Blackwater or Saint Denis streets meanwhile Dutch and Arthur becomes a bigger threat to pinkertons since Arthur lost his mind like Dutch. Both turns into war criminals and kills lots of lawmen and Pinkertons. John finds in a newspaper about Dutch and Arthur and he starts searching for them. Arthur sick somehow got better instead worse. John somehow finds the gang in woods and he asks them where they've been when he got shot off the train. Dutch and Arthur responds to him "we've thought you was the rat, Marston." Later John joins them and becomes the deadliest Gang in America.
Best ending 💀
@@Basan614 No, that would be the worst ending, because it's a direct insult to Arthur's character.
@@bluexboxgamer2613I mean he lives
@@Basan614 but he becomes someone completely different than the Arthur we know and love, someone far more evil.
John couldnt join a man who leaves his wife to die
When Micah dies this plays.
The only thing that changes with honour is the lower you have, the deeper and scarier the lyrics are
in the end he did it
Arthur in hell be like:
Play this on my funeral
Wait why because it goes hard or we're you in on columbine or something
I know this comment is probably gonna being unread, but this song would fit perfectly to an alternate Ending, where Athur gets hang for all the bad things he has done, if his honor is ultra low. Kinda like he's in jail and thinks about everything bad and good he left behind before he'll pass away.
Bye 118 ❤
cool song
Mythical dungeater cutscene
its sad and i like it
DAMN US BOTH!!..
When you dont donate to mickey
More like when you kill mickey
Pov you didnt find gavin
My first time playing I got this ending 😞
same I was very close to gettting the high honor ending
Would have been nice if you had max honor arthur would still die but he would run away and die on his own terms but ultra low honor could be arthur gets overwehlmed by pinkertons and he gets caught and trialed or dutch goes with micah while Micah quickdraws his gun kills arthur and laughs and goes with dutch
Or where Dutch kills Arthur himself
@@colepayne7988 don’t think Dutch would do that
I'm afraid
Should be the theme if your at lowest lebel honor you can reach and micah kills you
He does though on the low honor ending. He either stabs you or shoots you.
Reread your comment and now I realise what you meant.
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Strange huh? So....I finished the game in high honor but I have low honor in real life.....guess why.
Same
Because the amount of "hello.. ma'am's" to get it took too long
What did you do
@@hochigaming14yearsago90 I stole a candy bar from a kid.
Wallpaper???
I like the love honor Music most but i hate that Micha shoots Arthur so i like more when he dies of TB not that i like Arthurs Death but it looks so Peace full
Lol dying of blood loss or lung disease isn't peaceful at all
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yooo
I have a feel that i got a bad ending.
My entire relationship with my ex girlfriend was hurt really often by her traumas after her ex.
Now we break up, and she is meeting with him, after all of that.
I feel like shit.
Do not give up, perhaps there is a good ending, jesus is the way.
What are the lyrics?
May I Stand unshaken amidst amidst the crash of worlds
=> use ultra low pitch for may i stand unshaken low => label it as " May I Stand Unshaken Mega Ultimate Extremely very low honor " => Profit
tfw you shoot bloodhounds during bounty hunts and it bleeds out in frount of you
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