@@VIi726yes you did. You say you can’t convict somebody off lyrics but then say that you can convict someone off lyrics. I get what you tried to say but you did contradict yourself.
It is hard to get favorable judgement when your name is “Young Thug” and you literally live the crimes you commit 😂. Lyrics are clearly an admissible evidence if it is related to crime.
What ppl are missing is that if they can link what you say directly to a crime or murder, they can use your lyrics. Period. They self snitch all the time.
OGs , didn’t even take pictures let alone snitch on themselves in their own songs and then walk around still doing criminal shit… I think they’re dumb.
@@doncolethepoet nah… he has something to say about everyone else in SA and DV situations. So why not keep the same energy for Diddy? Cus you like him? That goes against everything he preaches
Exactly what happened to “I’m only here for music, only ask me about my family and me” extensive episodes of him talking about artists, athletes personal lives
@doncolethepoet Do you really believe Diddy is about to send hitmen to millions of people across the world? Every person posting on Twitter, every RUclips channel speaking on this? Every news outlet, etc. This podcast is just one of many that would speaking on it. Yall tryna make it sound like Diddy is the terminator or some shit. Joe's just scared to lose his Hollywood access bc he probably frequents those circles.
Circumstantial evidence is still legitimate evidence. TV got y’all thinking that line means it doesn’t hold weight. People go to prison with only circumstantial evidence everyday. It just means “enough evidence to draw legitimate conclusions from.”
Most that do it are not know for being intelligent. Look at Young Thug. He doesn't necessarily scream intelligence, common sense, and absence of narcissism.
If he talked about diddy . That would boost his already top podcast. But it will come with repercussions. So i understand if he dont . But he could at least talk a little bit about it damn
People keep making excuses for Young Thug because they like his music and because he gets industry favoritism. But when ever clowns like 69 or random youtube rappers with no following get in these situations, this pod and everyone else clowns them for being dumb enough to incriminate themselves. Why should this be any different? You can rap, sing or freestyle about WHATEVER you want. But if you're dumb enough to use music to get clout off of crimes that you're actually connected to then congratulations, you played yourself! It's annoying to hear 30, 40 & 50 year old ngs make excuses and pretend this is a free speech issue. Speaking of industry favoritism, the men on this pod are lame for being so silent & naive about Diddy & Cassie. The excuses they made are weak af too. No one wants them to crash out for a hot take. But it's cowardice as men who talk about other people's business & controversies for a living, to turn a blind eye to the guy who has a long reputation for snaking, manipulating & destroying other people's lives These guys are afraid of Diddy.
I couldn’t agree with you more. It couldn’t be more transparent. Joe of all people should say what it is. He clearly trying to protect his powerful friends. White, Latin or black if you’re protecting your powerful friend who did something like that then evidently you’re a corrupt person yourself. Disappointed in Joe
Agree when I hear them sigh about Young Thug most likely getting convicted or saying”Free Thug” or hoping he gets out. It sounds so lame and dickriding af Like he’s a grown man who engaged in organized criminal activity. Why are you other grown ass men hoeing for him? Reminds me of girls fangirling for her rapper crush
@Piqueblinders11 I agree. I'm disappointed in Joe, but after the past few years, I'm not at all surprised. I was actually disappointed in the rest of the guys. It'd be cool if they actually offered pushback. But most of what I heard was "why does it have to be us"? Really? Lol.
Instead of telling them not to rap about real events how about you guys tell them to not commit crimes? Atlanta and them mothers that keep burrying kids would thank.
My problem with using young thug lyrics is this mf says the most ridiculous shit in all of his songs. Young once said "I'm Rey Mysterio" in F Cancer. Is Jeff the master of the 619? No. He just felt like saying it. This man has said so many things in his song that are obviously for entertainment. Thug also said "Harriet Tubman 20's weigh it up on the scale". Those aren't even real. Thug said "I just went hunting I found me a rabbit, and picked out the carrots*. Bro says literally anything on the track.
😂😂 gotta give it up to these YSL niggas they really are gangsters and i hope they do the gangster time.. Much blessing to people who got killed and the family effected i hope they get the justice they deserve.
Their is actually 1 song I saw that they included in evidence was the song him & Nicki did together. In fact, when it was released a long time ago, he tweeted that Nicki wrote the entire song (including his) so his lawyer should use that.
What happened to worrying about yourself and not being in other peoples business.... You know because you didn't want to get into the Diddy situation.. Smh.
This gets tricky. If it’s vague like we sold drugs, we shoot at opps. Etc. Then yea, artistic expression.. but if you start detailing actual crimes/murders committed, then come on… could be people trolling with info they kno but if they can actually link you to events with other evidence too… but with the Thug situation specifically, some of the ones they wanted to use, trash… but some others 🤔… but with the system, you give them an inch to use lyrics, they wanna go the mile and be ridiculous and you can’t trust them to play fair, so it gets tricky.
Ice thinks LYRICS will hurt this case, but "SNITCHING" x10, won't?! You can't make this dumbs*** up = kids, go enjoy that "FREE" education you get from "K-12", so you don't end-up like these guys
We watch a pod for y’all opinions because y’all industry insiders. Too many times y’all scared to give y’all opinion on some shit. Wtf are e doing here. Rappers got y’all scared to speak on shit they do PUBLICLY
Thug really was cooked before this RICO case though. The state of GA had so much information on him with the Nutt murder, it's surprising they just decided to go after him.
If you use lyrics of rappers in court then you should do it for every genre of music. That's the only way for it to be fair. Aside from that rappers need tp stop snitching on themselves. Its like no one listened to Rap Snitch Knishes by MF Doom and Mr. Fantastick, stop snitching on yourself
Thug was wildin, it's Twitter posts and IG basically documenting everything with him and Lucci. But past that it's the murder of Lucci's OG Nutt that the city of Atlanta has plenty of information on and they never did anything with it. The people involved in that situation had already told on him with that case.
I know this comment is going to get overlooked but I hope lyrics being used against rappers and the release of Andre 3000 new album are the catalyst for a necessary change in hip hop who’s subject matter is mostly predicated around promoting substance abuse, violence of one’s own kind, and misogyny that I grew up loving to listen to because that’s what sells. Positivity sells too when they choose to market that perception.
Whats wrong with black people in america? One minute you all say rappers lie on thier lyrics another minutes you all do not have anything to say when a situation like thug is up. All of you were just laughing after that guy made comment about thug lyrics being use in the court. , no seriousness, just cross talking at each other. Whats wrong with my people really. We naturally feel less concern when we are not the one in a hot soup. WHY? What if thug was just bragging like other rappers.? And it appears to coincide. We aint it same sht with Africans , and i am african.
If blac youngsta can rent a van that was used in The shooting of young dolphs truck linked back to his credit card and multiple videos of him holding guns in dolphs neigjborhood and other videos tweets etc circulating of him threatening and bashing dolph can be thrown out then young thug should be on his way home! His team should hire gottis lawyer
All the rappers you better pay attention because they can't wait to use it on every black man who is in The Hip Hop industry they get paid once a black person goes to jail remember that Ice Cube set it best the same record labels are in cahoots with the jail systems easy lick for them
The amount of dickriding and sugar coating for YoungThug people are doing is crazy, but ultimately not surprising. At this point I wouldnt be surprised if everyone who's making excuses, if one of yall's relatives got murdered and Thug was connected to it, yall would still be trying to find a way to make excuses for him. Lmao
...........of course lyrics are used ....he boasted this is what he does ...the song does not state its a fantasy....rock roll lyrics have been used ....country star lyrics have been used in court ....mature men know this childish minded guys dont
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Go to Jail! Do not pass go! Do not collect $200…. These fools self snitching in their bars should get locked up.
You cant just convict someone off lyrics but if your lyrics are matching up perfectly with actual crimes then of course you should be able to use them
Factos 👍
Can't argue with this
u contradicted urself
@@wallywoo6579 no i didnt
@@VIi726yes you did. You say you can’t convict somebody off lyrics but then say that you can convict someone off lyrics. I get what you tried to say but you did contradict yourself.
It is hard to get favorable judgement when your name is “Young Thug” and you literally live the crimes you commit 😂. Lyrics are clearly an admissible evidence if it is related to crime.
His name is Jeffrey Lamar Williams. Shut your mouth
" Caught him at the stop light...seen him crawling'"...Ish really does have a 80s flow😂
My favorite Gangstaliscious track comes to mind.."Play it for the Jury"
AYYYYYO 😂😂😂
That was An 80s Flow 😂😂😂😂
His lyrics are real things that happened on his watch. He’s guilty
The content closet part had me almost cryin laughin. “Insert here” is a wild pause 😂
What ppl are missing is that if they can link what you say directly to a crime or murder, they can use your lyrics. Period.
They self snitch all the time.
So no diddy talk but young thugs talk ?
This was a valid argument before the actual songs matched the actual murders.
It's so much stuff they have on him, they really dont need the lyrics. The lyrics are really over kill honestly.
@@ianmullins4387they dont got nothing on him bro it's the ppl around him hell beat it but so some time for the guns
These bots are ridiculous
This is something a bot would say
@@cvo7617definitely some bot activity occurring rn
@@cvo7617 quiet bot
Tim Dillon said it best “if you shot bobby on 6th street then in your rap lie and say you shot timmy on 100th st”
The Content Closet was wiiiild! 😂
There be like 7 weeks between Patreon and YT clips lmfaooo
OGs , didn’t even take pictures let alone snitch on themselves in their own songs and then walk around still doing criminal shit… I think they’re dumb.
“You’d be Nick Cannon” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That shit had me cryin 😂😂😂
If this man is responsible for people being killed, he deserves to be in jail.
AMEN
straight up no if and or buts
A good lawyer can make them look stupid using lyrics it’s not that much weight
Maaan he got something to say about everything else but Diddy smh. He scared 😂
Duh 😂😂you would be to in his position y’all don’t care about nobody well being clearly
@@doncolethepoet nah… he has something to say about everyone else in SA and DV situations. So why not keep the same energy for Diddy? Cus you like him? That goes against everything he preaches
@amifiii265if you gotta fight someone or send goons for someone criticizing you then you can't take it
Exactly what happened to “I’m only here for music, only ask me about my family and me” extensive episodes of him talking about artists, athletes personal lives
@doncolethepoet Do you really believe Diddy is about to send hitmen to millions of people across the world? Every person posting on Twitter, every RUclips channel speaking on this? Every news outlet, etc. This podcast is just one of many that would speaking on it. Yall tryna make it sound like Diddy is the terminator or some shit. Joe's just scared to lose his Hollywood access bc he probably frequents those circles.
The Fake Thoughts and Prayers always a pleasant moment to end segments!!!
Surely if there's no truth to or implicating evidence in the lyrics, he has nothing to worry about 😂
So Joe Budden had criticism on For All The Dogs but now this new shit Drake dropped addressing all the criticism and he's real quiet 🤔
Joe there’s a lot more that’s also happening I want to know your take on it .
Okay, let’s hear it…
Go to the ShadeRoom where you belong
.......such as?
Circumstantial evidence is still legitimate evidence. TV got y’all thinking that line means it doesn’t hold weight. People go to prison with only circumstantial evidence everyday. It just means “enough evidence to draw legitimate conclusions from.”
The witness list grew exponentially
They geeked up
Why rappers self-snitch in music I will never understand 🤔🤔🤔
Most that do it are not know for being intelligent. Look at Young Thug. He doesn't necessarily scream intelligence, common sense, and absence of narcissism.
Pump, pump pump it up!
😂😂😂
That Stanley cup sassy as hell
Ghostwriter is a great idea
If he talked about diddy . That would boost his already top podcast. But it will come with repercussions. So i understand if he dont . But he could at least talk a little bit about it damn
People keep making excuses for Young Thug because they like his music and because he gets industry favoritism.
But when ever clowns like 69 or random youtube rappers with no following get in these situations, this pod and everyone else clowns them for being dumb enough to
incriminate themselves. Why should this be any different?
You can rap, sing or freestyle about WHATEVER you want. But if you're dumb enough to use music to get clout off of crimes that you're actually connected to
then congratulations, you played yourself! It's annoying to hear 30, 40 & 50 year old ngs make excuses and pretend this is a free speech issue.
Speaking of industry favoritism, the men on this pod are lame for being so silent & naive about Diddy & Cassie. The excuses they made are weak af too.
No one wants them to crash out for a hot take. But it's cowardice as men who talk about other people's business & controversies for a living, to turn a blind eye to
the guy who has a long reputation for snaking, manipulating & destroying other people's lives
These guys are afraid of Diddy.
I couldn’t agree with you more.
It couldn’t be more transparent.
Joe of all people should say what it is. He clearly trying to protect his powerful friends.
White, Latin or black if you’re protecting your powerful friend who did something like that then evidently you’re a corrupt person yourself. Disappointed in Joe
Agree when I hear them sigh about Young Thug most likely getting convicted or saying”Free Thug” or hoping he gets out. It sounds so lame and dickriding af
Like he’s a grown man who engaged in organized criminal activity. Why are you other grown ass men hoeing for him? Reminds me of girls fangirling for her rapper crush
@Piqueblinders11 I agree. I'm disappointed in Joe, but after the past few years, I'm not at all surprised. I was actually disappointed in the rest of the guys. It'd be cool if they actually offered pushback. But most of what I heard was "why does it have to be us"?
Really? Lol.
You were podding with this comment. Big salute to you good sir or lady.
@@willjamesjr joe been defending diddy for a long time, doesn't come as surprise.
Wayne's tour bus gets shot up. Young Thug: I was tryna kill ya no brainier, Scarecrow. Nuff said
😂😂😂 lol Joe stupid
I was thinking Will smith and the Freddy song when he said that line.
80s rap
Nobody was cackling talking about P Diddy🙃😂 niggas went 👨🏾🦯 and started 🕺🏾
Young Thug looks genuinely terrified in enery courtroom pic. He got those shook Lil Durk eyes.
Rap snitches telling all they business and becoming they own star witness
"Did you see the perpetrator?" "Yea, I'm right here"
"Would you sign to Tyler Perry's content closet?" 😭
Instead of telling them not to rap about real events how about you guys tell them to not commit crimes? Atlanta and them mothers that keep burrying kids would thank.
Joe budden got bots in his comments section 😂
Joe - why you got bots?
LOVE A PODCAST THAT STARTS OUT WITH, ARE YOU ALL INFORMED AT ALL ABOUT A SUBJECT, NAH, COOL LETS TALK ABOUT IT
…I thought we knew this already ? Lol
Its over for Thugga he's getting atleast 50-years.
Bro neither of these ppl are lawyers lol
My problem with using young thug lyrics is this mf says the most ridiculous shit in all of his songs. Young once said "I'm Rey Mysterio" in F Cancer. Is Jeff the master of the 619? No. He just felt like saying it. This man has said so many things in his song that are obviously for entertainment. Thug also said "Harriet Tubman 20's weigh it up on the scale". Those aren't even real. Thug said "I just went hunting I found me a rabbit, and picked out the carrots*. Bro says literally anything on the track.
Nah this is facts lol especially when he said the picking carrots line I was like hold up huh 🥲
Yeah exactly that’s what the defense will say
It’s time for people to wake up
No the best lyric they have against him is the truck incident..he named the truck in a song
Tyler Perry’s Content Closet 😂
Interesting you are commenting heavy on this case, but mum on Diddy....
😂😂 gotta give it up to these YSL niggas they really are gangsters and i hope they do the gangster time.. Much blessing to people who got killed and the family effected i hope they get the justice they deserve.
I wonder do Lawyers counter with lyrics where we know them niggas lying… 😂
Flow so choppy Lmdao 😂😢
o yah my boi deep-fried
Joe scared of diddy that’s why he ain’t drop the pod yesterday 😂😂
Joe scared of what's in his closet.
He probably do the same ish
Budden is an industry slave. He is paid to say and not say things. He’s defending YSL but also not talking about Diddy. He is controlled
Their is actually 1 song I saw that they included in evidence was the song him & Nicki did together. In fact, when it was released a long time ago, he tweeted that Nicki wrote the entire song (including his) so his lawyer should use that.
If the lyrics I think that’s gone be used is gonna be used is yeah thug is finna fry
I wonder if young thug could claim that the prosecution team misquoted his lyrics, since his pronunciation in his music isn't exactly the clearest.
Not bad
They could be saying it but what if they really had nothing to do with it?
Not ish 80’s flow 😂
Oh no, they're going to use incriminating lyrics by a man who portrays as a thug who commits violent/illegal activities.
What happened to worrying about yourself and not being in other peoples business.... You know because you didn't want to get into the Diddy situation.. Smh.
More like Old Thug
This gets tricky. If it’s vague like we sold drugs, we shoot at opps. Etc. Then yea, artistic expression.. but if you start detailing actual crimes/murders committed, then come on… could be people trolling with info they kno but if they can actually link you to events with other evidence too… but with the Thug situation specifically, some of the ones they wanted to use, trash… but some others 🤔… but with the system, you give them an inch to use lyrics, they wanna go the mile and be ridiculous and you can’t trust them to play fair, so it gets tricky.
Ice thinks LYRICS will hurt this case, but "SNITCHING" x10, won't?! You can't make this dumbs*** up = kids, go enjoy that "FREE" education you get from "K-12", so you don't end-up like these guys
They even wanted to with hold info on them doing sacrifices in the Booth like these people are evil
Thugga better take the deal if they offer one. Cuz they finna sit him down for a couple decades
Yo your honor
I didn’t write this
The ghostwriter did
Tyler perry did to haha
We watch a pod for y’all opinions because y’all industry insiders. Too many times y’all scared to give y’all opinion on some shit. Wtf are e doing here. Rappers got y’all scared to speak on shit they do PUBLICLY
I wouldn't rap about crimes
Young thug ain't comin out man...
Some of the shit I've heard they are gonna use is pretty close to a confession.
It's over from here... Bye young thug. I'll support thugga until I pass.
Thug really was cooked before this RICO case though. The state of GA had so much information on him with the Nutt murder, it's surprising they just decided to go after him.
If you use lyrics of rappers in court then you should do it for every genre of music. That's the only way for it to be fair. Aside from that rappers need tp stop snitching on themselves. Its like no one listened to Rap Snitch Knishes by MF Doom and Mr. Fantastick, stop snitching on yourself
Joe gonna make it race thing within 5 minutes.
Thug is cooked bruh he gon spend the rest of his life in there
Bro everybody that really knows the streets know that thug is guilty 😂
Shit is obvious
Same as melly
99% of rappers are exaggerating in their songs. Its entertainment. IT MAY HELP THE DEFENSE!!
All he has to do is prove where he was at the time that the guy's mother got shot at and that will sink that situation...
🙄🤡
@@JM-qn3tf 🤷🏿♂️
If you hear the streets talking and rap about it, the fact that you could be implemented in the crime is crazy to me.
Thug was wildin, it's Twitter posts and IG basically documenting everything with him and Lucci. But past that it's the murder of Lucci's OG Nutt that the city of Atlanta has plenty of information on and they never did anything with it. The people involved in that situation had already told on him with that case.
Ice be doing his research and Ice produces Good Topics but why is Ish even there
Yeah, thugger may as well pack it up if they using lyrics lmao
It’s crazy how these people are defending Young Thug. He’s a criminal and belongs in prison forever
Shouldn't have talked about it then. Loose lips sink ships
I know this comment is going to get overlooked but I hope lyrics being used against rappers and the release of Andre 3000 new album are the catalyst for a necessary change in hip hop who’s subject matter is mostly predicated around promoting substance abuse, violence of one’s own kind, and misogyny that I grew up loving to listen to because that’s what sells. Positivity sells too when they choose to market that perception.
Whats wrong with black people in america? One minute you all say rappers lie on thier lyrics another minutes you all do not have anything to say when a situation like thug is up. All of you were just laughing after that guy made comment about thug lyrics being use in the court. , no seriousness, just cross talking at each other. Whats wrong with my people really. We naturally feel less concern when we are not the one in a hot soup. WHY? What if thug was just bragging like other rappers.? And it appears to coincide. We aint it same sht with Africans , and i am african.
Not gonna lie I can’t watch ya no more after that whole Diddy thing you did ✌️
The prosecution is trash and seem unprofessional
If blac youngsta can rent a van that was used in The shooting of young dolphs truck linked back to his credit card and multiple videos of him holding guns in dolphs neigjborhood and other videos tweets etc circulating of him threatening and bashing dolph can be thrown out then young thug should be on his way home! His team should hire gottis lawyer
All the rappers you better pay attention because they can't wait to use it on every black man who is in The Hip Hop industry they get paid once a black person goes to jail remember that Ice Cube set it best the same record labels are in cahoots with the jail systems easy lick for them
He's done.
Send all thugs to prison idc
Well Yung thug should of been human.
You kno Ice want Thug out….he a woman his self
The amount of dickriding and sugar coating for YoungThug people are doing is crazy, but ultimately not surprising. At this point I wouldnt be surprised if everyone who's making excuses, if one of yall's relatives got murdered and Thug was connected to it, yall would still be trying to find a way to make excuses for him. Lmao
Ooo well
but a white country singer cancsay they shot the sheriff and that aint used in court
If you're actually serious 🤣🤣
...........of course lyrics are used ....he boasted this is what he does ...the song does not state its a fantasy....rock roll lyrics have been used ....country star lyrics have been used in court ....mature men know this childish minded guys dont