I'm a big fan of the S22s. Plenty of grip for agressive riding in the hills, good tyre life (appox. 6000km), quick turn-in and great feel from the front. A front wears out at about the same time as the rear. I am worried that they sacrificed some feeling or grip on the front (on the road) to achieve the greater durability of the front on track? I hope not. The front s22 definitely wears out faster than comparable tyres like the Pirelli Rosso Corsa 2 and Pirelli Rosso 4 Corsa but it also feels better. If the s22s come down in price or if the s23's are priced higher, then the S22s may be the better choice for the street.
Great video. I installed some S22 on my do it all Street triple RS and I was pleasantly surprised. I live in Canada and these tires are underrated IMHO. Great grip session after session during my trackday and great front feeling, for a bargain price. (Vs Pirelli or Michelin). Again just my humble opinion, I am not Sylvain Guintoli… lol
2:58 i’m so glad they kept the shape because I would hate to be riding around on the square tires or even worse triangle tires. But seriously my 2023 Yamaha MT 10 has S 22 tires from the factory and I have been very happy with them. In fact when it’s time I will probably go back with the S 23.
Nice review & great tyres. Also not too expensive either. I've been using Bridgestone's on & off for years & they're definitely my first choice for great tyres at good prices.
Her Rennie, thanks for a great review. What Sylvain said about matching tyres and needs makes perfect sense. My Speed Twin 1200 came from the factory with Metzeler Racetec RR but I suspect this was a marketing ploy more than a need. The Sportec M9RR would have made more sense to me, even though I love the turn-in speed of the Racetec.
I've ridden and raced on Metzelers for years and they're a very good tire. The M9RR's are a great all-round tire but it's hard to say which is the better one between this and the Bridgestones without putting them head to head
The only downside of the s22 is the wear. The thread is not deep enough and they were at about 2000 miles of hard canyons riding. The Rosso 4 gives more durability but loose on the feel and time to warm up. I most likely will stick with the s22.
After 8 sets of S22, I will try out the S23 next spring. The S22 is a perfect match for my bike and has given me exemplary performance on the race track as well as on demanding mountain passes. For me, ultimate grip is more important than mileage 😎✌️🏁
These reviews are all very well doing them in perfect conditions on a race track but lots of people don't use them like that. What about more normal use like UK roads in changeable conditions on a Sunday morning ride out with your mates.
Totally agree. Back in the day we used to get a section of the track watered down to test wet braking capabilities. They don't don that anymore despite all the claims about increased wet weather performance, which is a shame.
This is what everyone is missing from their tests is a WEIGHT comparison. People are spending fortune on their carbon wheels and none of the producers are telling us the weight of their tyres! SHOCKING
Where the hell can I find these? Geez! 😂 They’re supposed to be out now, but I can’t find them anywhere. I’ll need a rear tire in the next couple weeks, and I don’t want to get an s22 again, if the s23 is going to come out in a month. 😫
@@WillieWheels better tire is subjective. The rs11 is definitely not a better tire for me than the s23. I would honestly be fine on the street with a road 6, but I like the battlax.
My Gen 3 Hayabusa uses the S22 tire. Would the S23 still be ok for that. Spirited twisty riding & some straight road touring. Or will the S23 be a little too soft for the weight of the Busa. ?
Well, Suzuki thought the S 22 was a good OEM tire so I can only imagine the 23 would be better seeing as how it’s just a more improved S 22. How do you like the S 22? I have them on my 2023 Yamaha MT 10 and I really like them a lot.
@@CarlosXJ I went with the S23 supposedly they get more mileage than the S22 .. I have about a 1000 miles on them so far holding up good! 🏍️⚡️🏍️⚡️🏍️⚡️ 👍🏻✌🏻
@@ryanmoore8556 you misunderstand - I think the 42/36 generic pressure is insane. Probably only good for big people on harley's and bmw's. It's insane that this is a recommended pressure regardless of bike weight, rider weight, style of riding, climate etc.
If you do test of two tyres on the same bike, track, rider and same weather condition etc. Then you possibly can see the difference. This is why the noticed that 8%
I started with S21s. Then S22s. No difference in my riding style and no difference in the claimed mileage. This was over a long duration of 20K+ miles and several.sets of tires. Zero difference. Now the S23 is out, I am debating to try these newest tires after two sets of Angel GT2s that got me 7,200 miles on the first rear tire; I am on 5K+ on the newest rear tire, and over 11,500 miles on my front tire. Angel GT2 was discontinued due to the sipe design. But their longevity is incredible. I want to try the S23s and see if I can break 4,500 miles on the rear. If not, I will move on to the Angel GT.
It was awesome as always getting to ride with ya sir!
Likewise, my friend!
I'm a big fan of the S22s. Plenty of grip for agressive riding in the hills, good tyre life (appox. 6000km), quick turn-in and great feel from the front. A front wears out at about the same time as the rear. I am worried that they sacrificed some feeling or grip on the front (on the road) to achieve the greater durability of the front on track? I hope not. The front s22 definitely wears out faster than comparable tyres like the Pirelli Rosso Corsa 2 and Pirelli Rosso 4 Corsa but it also feels better. If the s22s come down in price or if the s23's are priced higher, then the S22s may be the better choice for the street.
S22 ou rosso corsa4?grip sec pluie.chauffe le plus vite ?✌️
Great video. I installed some S22 on my do it all Street triple RS and I was pleasantly surprised. I live in Canada and these tires are underrated IMHO. Great grip session after session during my trackday and great front feeling, for a bargain price. (Vs Pirelli or Michelin). Again just my humble opinion, I am not Sylvain Guintoli… lol
I agree. They’ve been fantastic on my 23 Yamaha MT 10. So much so then I’ll probably go back with either the 22 or 23 when it’s time.
2:58 i’m so glad they kept the shape because I would hate to be riding around on the square tires or even worse triangle tires. But seriously my 2023 Yamaha MT 10 has S 22 tires from the factory and I have been very happy with them. In fact when it’s time I will probably go back with the S 23.
How many miles have you put on your S22?
On my MT-10 the rear pretty much lasted 2800 miles (hard riding)
Nice review & great tyres. Also not too expensive either. I've been using Bridgestone's on & off for years & they're definitely my first choice for great tyres at good prices.
Her Rennie, thanks for a great review. What Sylvain said about matching tyres and needs makes perfect sense. My Speed Twin 1200 came from the factory with Metzeler Racetec RR but I suspect this was a marketing ploy more than a need. The Sportec M9RR would have made more sense to me, even though I love the turn-in speed of the Racetec.
I've ridden and raced on Metzelers for years and they're a very good tire. The M9RR's are a great all-round tire but it's hard to say which is the better one between this and the Bridgestones without putting them head to head
Top stuff Rennie 😎🍻
I’ve ran a few of the s22 on my 22 and 23 s1k and they are awesome tires! They provide great grip and mileage considering the power output of the bmw.
What a great article, thanks.
Cheers Johnny!
The only downside of the s22 is the wear. The thread is not deep enough and they were at about 2000 miles of hard canyons riding. The Rosso 4 gives more durability but loose on the feel and time to warm up. I most likely will stick with the s22.
try the metzeller, M9RR, I've used s22 and pirellis before, and these are just perfect for the RS
Heard this a lot but I always get 4000 min out of the rear and this includes a few track days
After 8 sets of S22, I will try out the S23 next spring. The S22 is a perfect match for my bike and has given me exemplary performance on the race track as well as on demanding mountain passes. For me, ultimate grip is more important than mileage 😎✌️🏁
@@SrJunkie-hf3zb Same here, but no track days. Last one got over 5000 on the rear.
@@SirMountainpass I really like the S22 also. First tire in a long time that I have bought and worn out and then bought again.
Sylvan is the man!!! Big fan
These reviews are all very well doing them in perfect conditions on a race track but lots of people don't use them like that. What about more normal use like UK roads in changeable conditions on a Sunday morning ride out with your mates.
Totally agree. Back in the day we used to get a section of the track watered down to test wet braking capabilities. They don't don that anymore despite all the claims about increased wet weather performance, which is a shame.
Wonder how the s23 compares to the michelin power 6 tyres...
I would like to compare track times and road performance for those 2 as well but nothing on RUclips yet
This is what everyone is missing from their tests is a WEIGHT comparison. People are spending fortune on their carbon wheels and none of the producers are telling us the weight of their tyres! SHOCKING
Where the hell can I find these? Geez! 😂 They’re supposed to be out now, but I can’t find them anywhere. I’ll need a rear tire in the next couple weeks, and I don’t want to get an s22 again, if the s23 is going to come out in a month. 😫
RS11
@@WillieWheels why the fuck would I want an rs11?
@@thagingerninjer5391better tire my guy! I see your mother raised you right!! 👀 btw if you was never told!! I love you Bro!
@@WillieWheels better tire is subjective. The rs11 is definitely not a better tire for me than the s23. I would honestly be fine on the street with a road 6, but I like the battlax.
@@thagingerninjer5391 🫡
So what pressure where you guys running on track?
With a world champion like Sylvain Guintoli helping develop products chances are they'll be excellent.
My Gen 3 Hayabusa uses the S22 tire. Would the S23 still be ok for that. Spirited twisty riding & some straight road touring. Or will the S23 be a little too soft for the weight of the Busa. ?
Well, Suzuki thought the S 22 was a good OEM tire so I can only imagine the 23 would be better seeing as how it’s just a more improved S 22. How do you like the S 22? I have them on my 2023 Yamaha MT 10 and I really like them a lot.
@@postersm7141 I love them. Amazing grip. But do you sacrifice some longevity in the pursuit of grip, especially when doing long trips on the freeway.
I only got 2100 miles out of the rear but they do handle nice on my 2024 Hayabusa… zero track days
@@FireBladeRR-RSPI got 2800 out of the rear on my MT-10. I'm thinking about going with the S23
@@CarlosXJ I went with the S23 supposedly they get more mileage than the S22 .. I have about a 1000 miles on them so far holding up good!
🏍️⚡️🏍️⚡️🏍️⚡️ 👍🏻✌🏻
Hello, which tires will be better for Ducati Monster 1100, S22 or S23?
Could these be used on a S1000XR, or is the bike too heavy?
These would be great on a bike like that.
Great stuff. Cool chat with SG as well. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Longevity??
6:00 - 8% more than the S22
I got 4k miles on an S23 rear on my SV650. Just riding out to country roads. Magnificent tire.
What pressure should these road tires be inflated to???????🤔🤔
36 front-42 rear. or 2.5 bar front and 2.9 rear. this is for the road
@@iefie oh dear - the generic tire pressure for everything. I imagine it's good for big ass beemers
@@urastus9202 this is what bridgestone says. Michelin road 5 are 2.25/2.5. But offcourse its your own prefference. For me 2.5/2.9 is to high
Depends on if ur corner hard or not I run 32 front n 30 rear when cold and when warmer I notice it's 35/36front n 33 to 35 rear
@@ryanmoore8556 you misunderstand - I think the 42/36 generic pressure is insane. Probably only good for big people on harley's and bmw's. It's insane that this is a recommended pressure regardless of bike weight, rider weight, style of riding, climate etc.
Terrible audio
Dricus du plessis 😂
tires...tyres
If he can't speak of the expected mileage lifespan, how can he claim an 8% increase over an S22? Dumb.
He answered it, depends on the bike, how you ride it, surface etc. etc.
If you do test of two tyres on the same bike, track, rider and same weather condition etc. Then you possibly can see the difference. This is why the noticed that 8%
..not necessarily, he could be talking about under controlled conditions, where's he knows the interviewer was asking for real world stats
I started with S21s. Then S22s. No difference in my riding style and no difference in the claimed mileage. This was over a long duration of 20K+ miles and several.sets of tires. Zero difference. Now the S23 is out, I am debating to try these newest tires after two sets of Angel GT2s that got me 7,200 miles on the first rear tire; I am on 5K+ on the newest rear tire, and over 11,500 miles on my front tire. Angel GT2 was discontinued due to the sipe design. But their longevity is incredible. I want to try the S23s and see if I can break 4,500 miles on the rear. If not, I will move on to the Angel GT.