"My love" took just three freaking games and a son to make Morrigan finally admits to herself that she "LOVEEE" someone....despite all the "love is useless" in the first game.
The first time she says it is if you accept the dark ritual and romance her. "Come my love, put thoughts about the ritual aside and let us make this a night to remember"
Lol, the line in which she says "He will think this means I miss him ,of course. He will be insufferably pleased with himself". (7:09) That fits my warden perfectly. Now I imagine him smirking like a complete moron XD
I think every person who ever romanced Morrigan to proper love ending while losing minimal approval would agree with this. I mean, nothing is more fun than playing a guy who plays her exact game but has a different endgame
@@blackchibisan8116 tbh I think Morggian is the best character to romance in this game as her story and the Warden's going on has so much more affect in the rest of the games mainly Inquisition but also affects flemith in da2 as well
@@ronswanson5974 yep, i think so, morrigan is the best female romance in all games My headcanon is: Morrigan Merril Josephine i know some people hate merril, but i think she is very cute, and i didn't romance cassandra because i tought she wouldn't be a good couple with my dalish elf.
I agree. But hawks might be dead now. So if hawke is dead or the hero of ferelden is dead that ending wouldn’t work. Nearly every main character can just be a died.
He is heir to the Ferelden throne if: his father is Loghain, if his father is an Allister who become king, or if his father is a Warden who becomes prince consort.
I swear if the Warden comes back in DA4, it better be on the back of a flying Tevinter magister, wielding the sword of Andresta in one hand and an archdemon's claw in the other, with two of Solas' orbs for eyes and with a pet pride demon called Pickles. I will settle for nothing less.
Lol. I'm good with that. It'd be cool if this new Darvin character is an apprentice of The Hero of Ferelden, assuming that the Hero isn't in DA:4 themselves.
@@AP-te6mk Probably not in the cards anymore. Maybe they'll mention him somewhere but I think they don't know how to bring him back. I do though, you bring him back as the main character to play. DA2 ruined everything.
for real their romance was so nicely done. leliana is a sweetheart too but morrigan is a very rare woman, both strong and yet fiercely loyal to the people she loves, which are few. In the end it was just her husband and her son who she loved, she's like apex traditional values as funny as that sounds since she's so headstrong. they should have made a game that continues hero of ferelden since morrigan sets him up for an entire campaign searching for a cure, and they could have had her come in at some climax to the story after the inquisition was done. I think part of why da2 was so meh is we had no reason to really care about our hero and he didn't really stand out too much to begin with. they fixed it a bit in inquisition with more customization reminiscent to origins even choosing your race, and yet his story was strong enough being the inquisitor with the fade mark to be interesting on his own. hero of kirkwall felt little more than glorified errand boy and at best he was involved in some random civil war in a town he lived in for years, it just wasn't that spectacular.
@@johnpantag472 Definitely not one-time use. If you go into the Witch Hunt DLC and you have the ring, Morrigan will say she sensed your coming due to it. This happens regardless of whether or not you got captured.
juan ig well as a grey warden you have to sacrifice yourself to kill the arch demon if you didn’t do the old god baby ritual and had him by normal means, so basically the grey warden (kierans father) sacrificed himself to kill the arch demon in that world save
God, her love for her son is so heart-breakingly touching. She was so ready to give up herself just so he could live, which was the one thing she worked so hard to prevent in DAO.
That would've been so fucking dope, if it was Warden Carver or Bethany. Terrible for either of them tho, considering that's the only family they have left after DA2...Jesus that's dark. Imagine having go thru all that trauma in da2 to then watch ur sibling sacrifice when you think all that's behind you.
"If I do anything well by Kieran it will be to inflict as little damage as possible" I teared up a bit, she knows she's not the best mother, but still tries her damn hardest to be good. She acknowledges her dysfunctional behavior but still works hard to raise her son properly, golden.
My favourite outcome for the Warden: - Aedan Cousland - Romance Morrigan - Harden Alistair's resolve - Arrange a marriage between Alistair and Anora - Spare and recruit Loghain - Leave with Morrigan through the Eluvian. The tragedy of the Grey Wardens is that they don't get to enjoy the world they save. Ours is special, though, and his reward for his heroism is a home and a family, bringing his story full circle, since it starts with him losing his home and his family. Alistair is safe on the throne and is prepared to rule, but also has the support of someone much, much more experienced. Loghain, meanwhile, dies to save a Ferelden refugee who had to flee their home because of Loghain's withdrawal at Ostagar, which allowed the Darkspawn to march on Lothering. It's literally perfect.
oh hell yeah, same here loghain gets his chance at redemption, ferelden gets the best of both Alistair and and anora and the Warden can live happily ever after with his wife and child I did make him human though
It's further shown in inquisition that everyone hates the wardens and one (big) f up can make other forget everything they've done. I always get many dissaprovals from solas because I defend the wardens. I had to stop a playthrough because his approval was too low. I was using fair weather friends too
@@ethanor Yeah i can understand that, but technically this child is the players child. Don't you think you would want to see the npc you have spawned from your character?
Am I the only one who's heart breaks with all this dialogue? Knowing all the endings and at the same time at this point not knowing where our warden is?
@@theeternalshade2981 the approved canon is actually the Cousland route, meaning noble born, it has a deeper perspective in relation with some of your companions like Alistair, Zevran Morrigan and Leliana, as well as, the mabari named by the player, in awakening if the warden survives and since awakening is canon it explains a lot more the relationship between the warden commander, Amaranthine and whatever is still there of Howe family, meaning it became just a lot more heavier, in witch hunt it only give the chance to go or not with Morrigan.
@@Zanc-nu8lf Whichever route makes the most sense isn't quite as important. The default worldstate ("canon"), as confirmed by both Mark Darrah (the executive producer) and the Tapestry is: Female Dalish Elf, ultimate sacrifice, King Alistair. For DA2, it's a Mage Hawke that sides with the mages. mobile.twitter.com/BioMarkDarrah/status/364864515717873665 I had to look this up for someone else just last week to be certain.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH i wish HOF could be the Grey Warden ally, that would be so epic. And so hard to choose between Warden and Hawke. Imagine Morrigna's reaction if Warden doesn't come back from the fade, i think there would be one less inquisitor in the world.
That wouldn't really be a choice. Bye bye hawke, I won't even feel bad. I am setting up my power couples (Warden/Morrigan and Inquisitor/Cassandra) to absolutely demolish DA4 or 5. I can only dream :D
The Warden Commander is not only the Hero of Ferelden, he is also Champion of Redcliffe, Hero of Orzammar, Savior of the elves and werewolves, the true Herald of Andraste,King/Queen of Ferelden, Arl/Arlessa of Amaranthine. He/She didn't need a powerup to destroy a magister and a broodmother.
@@Lucas-iw5xo Uldred didn't have time magic, there is no true herald of Andraste, all the other things are determinant except The Hero Of Ferelden part, and it took 4 allies to destroy that broodmother. Hawke was a nobody that defeated the Qunari in Kirkwall which makes them more impressive than the HoF automatically.
Morrigan: No one could hurt my son more than I. I could hurt him in irreparable ways that I fear more than life itself. Morrigan: How dare you ask if I'm happy.
We'll, I triggered the bug, both of them we're mine, sadly, there wasn't a way to get Leliana pregnant, it would've been cool too, to have a little kid near her tent in haven.
@@jameschristophercirujano6650 blame Margeline for stabbing Leliana. She ruined her womb with that blade so Leliana wouldn't get pregnant by the soldiers who raped her in the dungeon. This game really went there when it could... 🐉
@@haroldhoover9498 Oh, yeah. I really missed that part. The abdomen's pretty big so the chances are bigger that her womb wasn't hit. It makes more sense since the blade should be stabbed upward with a bit of incline to generate thrust. Unless Marjolaine stabbed her just above her vagine.
@@jameschristophercirujano6650 justo recently played Leliana's song and for what i was able to see the stab happened at the right side of the abdomen, but a little over where the womb may be and surprisingly closer to the stomach, I am not really sure if an injury to the womb would cause the symptoms shown when she was stabbed but a direct injury to the stomach actually can easily bring the biggest and strongest of men to their knees, easily
@@Zanc-nu8lf Well, at the end of the day, it's the writer's story, just that since they do offer an expanded relationship status than a traditional man x woman, I just hoped they give the option for the traditional male fantasy of impregnating all characters and do a Genghis Khan in a fantasy world XD
100% Hoping for a new game to straight up let you choose a protagonist from any of the previous Dragon Age games to play as. Bring back the Warden and get to play as a dwarven king or savior of the elves... one can dream...
right? like, it doesn't even matter who the antagonist is, the warden's cleaning shop. I dun care if it's fen harel, some freaky ass qunari, or my dad after a few drinks, they're beatin everyones ass ;3;
The Warden should have been a DLC, it would have been epic to see him interact with his son. My Warden was incredibly powerful. More powerful than my Inquistor.
I enjoy that everyone seems to have chosen the Cousland origin, and I chose the Tabris origin, so my Kieran is Half-Elf. And it's strange, since I hadn't seen him before I played Origins, so I coincidentally designed my Elven Warden to look eerily similar to his son, lol.
I too played as Tabris! My HoF is all white with blue eyes, so he’s pretty off with the colouring (except for the skin, I guess) But he has pretty similar facial features to Keiran, and it warms my heart.
Funnily enough, if Alistair is Keiran's father she will speak oddly highly of Alistair. If Alistair asks her "What does Keiran know of... his parentage?" Morrigan will tell him that "he's been told his father was a good man. I felt you deserved at least that much". Compare that to Loghain asking the same question she will say "Keiran knows nothing of his father, and it will stay that way."
I hope we get to see the warden again. Even if he died, there is the orlesian warden, or could follow biowares own cannon, which I think would be iffy with the fans, especially as a game. Maybe DLC.
Galahad I don’t think BioWare would do that. They like their accurate passing forward of decisions, so they wouldn’t lock the Orlesian Warden into being a human male warrior. They’d probably do a builder thing like with Hawke, to avoid pissing off fans.
@@MrBean8100 Fair enough, however, you can really put any random warden in there to fill in for a Dead Warden. Just like the Orlesian Warden, that was just some random substitute character that made up on the spot, they could do that again.
They've stated many times the warden wouldn't return. But after all the shit with Andromeda and Anthem, if they were to put a teaser of our warden in the DA4 trailer...that would make many people come back just for THAT, we all want to see our warden, even if for a single cutscene. I always felt closer to the warden than hawke or the Inquisitor.
I want a prequel expansion pack to DA4 that lets you play as your Warden again or the Orlesian Warden from Awakening. I want to experience the search to end the calling and play through my Warden as he sees the world 10 years more experiences. I want to see him interact with his old crew and his love and his son.
Yeah, I think they just disregarded every Dark Ritual ending and just had the sacrifice ending. A shame, really. I'd have been fine if they only just made it be relevant for like a offhand comment or a codex entry.
What Morrigan said about leash and safe sleep reminded me of Orsino. With the difference she didn’t became a corpse blood magic powered golem or assisted a serial killer.
Imagine if someone in Veilguard's dev team had watched this. Maybe we would have gotten the Morrigan players remembered rather than some entity wearing her face and skin.
I just finished dragon age origins and I agreed to have a child with her. My warden was an elven mage so I'm wondering if Kaden will be an elven mage in inquisition. I played inquisition already, but when I found out about the dragons keep website I inputted my choices in the website. So this will be very interesting outcome when I play it again.
I love Morrigan but they shouldnt have let Claudia Black's son do any voice acting :D But it warms my heart so hearing her talking about being a happy family the three of them, so satisfying :D
My OG Warden was an Aeduncan Rogue. Has two kids but Kieran was fully raised with both parents unlike his kid with Mandy he had before he was banished. I really loved this ending for my warden after the work I did to get the endings I though best for Origins and DA2
@@chapacoka There will be a quest with a barrier to a temple/castle that we can only enter with a special rune. But in order to get said rune we must speak to a secret underground merchant
Yes, but she specified in the dialogue that happens before the ritual something along the lines that the old god's soul wouldn't affect the child, specifically that the child "wouldn't be evil."
I wonder what leads up to this point where Kieran is introduced. I played several playthroughs and never got to this point. Maybe cuz I did most of the areas/maps before I started Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts? Usually I did most of the content including the dlc's, before I started this quest. And afterwards Morrigan joins the Inquisition, but I never got introduced to her son.
In the canon playthrough, Morrigan never had a child and the HoF was a female elf who died fighting the archdemon. You have to change all the choices and decisions in the dragon age keep and upload the changed worldstates.
No, Kieran’s existence depends on whether you romanced Morrigan or did the ritual before the final battle, if you did neither then Kieran doesn’t exist, if you do the ritual then Kieran is born with the soul of Urthemiel, the old god that you fight at the end of Origins. If you romanced Morrigan but didn’t do the ritual then Kieran is born as a normal child.
maciejl20 If you do the ritual or let Loghain or Alistair sacrifice themselves sure, if you don’t do the ritual though and the Warden kills the archdemon, they’re killed along with it
My boy Kieran Aeducan has the Throne of Orzammar to inherit from his Uncle-King Bhelen. All with or without his Stone Sense, his Mom blessed him with an Old-God Soul. 7:07 Kieran was raised to be a mountainous spirit of faith under my beliefs in the Stone and the Maker. Even though the Calling sings louder, I shall overcome with the Power of Blood, Avernus' ethical research, and the Architect. Returning to the Stone, the Maker, the Fade, or to my Morrigan and Kieran; I will let faith, love, and wisdom be my guides.
Technically he is a heir because If you play male cousland and do the ritual he’s your son and therefore has a claim to highever or let’s say female cousland and you romance Alastair and you tell him to do the ritual he has a claim on the throne of Ferelden
It never occurred to me to make my Inquisitor different to my Warden, so it was rather unnerving to hear Morrigan talk about him when, in terms of appearance, name, and abilities he was standing right in front of her.
@@varric i think Calling can come to different wardens in different time, depending on amount of blight in blood or smthing, its literally a slow poison.
The way she says "protect him to my last breath" makes me wonder if she will eventually die by sacrificing herself in some way in a future game to save Kieran. On another note, imagine having Morrigan as a mother-in-law lol.
So fiona is alisters mother she was a grey warden before giving birth, then the taint was gone after, maybe the secret to overcoming the calling is child birth sooo only women can overcome it at least that way and maybe men can another way.... Like by passing on their blight to a younger warden mmmm but idk how it would transfer possibly blood magic but it's hard to say. I'm thinking someone should make a theroy about it
Is all of this with morrigan and her son only in a dlc? I've played dragon age numerous times and never ran into him yet. I've missed a lot and always find something new when I play again
We need dlc for Lilliana... what about that story line? Cmon multiple characters and story's and love choices... that makes alot of different story's. These games are great and I love them but they do lack alot of possibilities due to lack of dlc... and I swear the game revoves around morrigan... she has the most lore and dlc out of all characters shit even (the warden) dies leaving morrigan and boy alone, sad 😔
Funny how in game almost every character wears same outfit after many years. It almost screams that the developers were just lazy to make new clothes for them.
The character in itself is so important and still present to this day. I've seen them trying to cover the HoF absence by saying that the ending where they sacrificied is canon... and I get that. I get that the HoF has make their times and new heroes will arise in the next games. But you can't tell me a DLC is impossible, for the payers who keeps asking after their Hero. It doesn't need to be a BIG adventure... i just wants to see my Warden possibly in her last days, fighting against her Calling.
Why does Morrigan say "I wish things had been different in the end"? I am playing two games with the exact same keep configuration. In both of them, the Warden is alive and Alistair is Kieran's father. In one save she says this, in the other something else. What triggers that??
the two have nothing to do with one another. modesty holds no weight when it comes to someone's character, mate. i hardly see how being a good mother would get in the way of her dressing the way that makes her happy.
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I like how the older Morrigan sounds a little bit more like Flemeth than she did in the first game.
A bit, her philosophy also reminds me a bit of Kreia from KOTOR II.
Claudia Black is a great voice actress
Just don't tell that in front of her, or you're going to eat a fireball for breakfast.
She was younger then and now shes more experienced and educated and well a mother lol
@@jedi_connor3030 Kreia is much more of a teacher though (albeit one trained in the Snape School of Verbal Encouragement).
Fun fact, Keiran's voice actor (Odin Black) is Morrigan's voice actress' son (Claudia Black).
makes sense there would be a natural affinity between them to make them seem like mother and son, even with morrigans harshness.
Oh wow thats so cute!!!!
Odin Black is a badass name
@@zxVicariousxz agreed
the voice is cute but animation bothers me a bit.
"My love" took just three freaking games and a son to make Morrigan finally admits to herself that she "LOVEEE" someone....despite all the "love is useless" in the first game.
she will call warden "my love" in the first game if you do her right.
@@borob.5168 what do you mean ' do her right.' ?
maciejl20 she does before fighting the arch demon
The first time she says it is if you accept the dark ritual and romance her. "Come my love, put thoughts about the ritual aside and let us make this a night to remember"
not just a someone, two someones.
I love the fondness Morrigan speaks of the Hero, and the fact that she makes herself turn back to sarcasm when she realizes she’s doing it
Lol, the line in which she says "He will think this means I miss him ,of course. He will be insufferably pleased with himself". (7:09)
That fits my warden perfectly. Now I imagine him smirking like a complete moron XD
Your warden has been hanging out with Alstair hasn't he
My warden was super ironic and sarcatic whenever Morrigan showed herself slightly romantic, so yes, i appreaciated that line too
I think every person who ever romanced Morrigan to proper love ending while losing minimal approval would agree with this. I mean, nothing is more fun than playing a guy who plays her exact game but has a different endgame
@@blackchibisan8116 tbh I think Morggian is the best character to romance in this game as her story and the Warden's going on has so much more affect in the rest of the games mainly Inquisition but also affects flemith in da2 as well
@@ronswanson5974 yep, i think so, morrigan is the best female romance in all games
My headcanon is:
Morrigan
Merril
Josephine
i know some people hate merril, but i think she is very cute, and i didn't romance cassandra because i tought she wouldn't be a good couple with my dalish elf.
That Griffon insignia on his clothes is a nice touch
I swear in the name of the Maker, if they don't end the saga with the Wardens return and all the other protagonists assembling one last time...
Can only hope it has at least inquisition quality writing and not andromeda or anthem level. Let it end right lol
I agree. But hawks might be dead now. So if hawke is dead or the hero of ferelden is dead that ending wouldn’t work.
Nearly every main character can just be a died.
Conrad Korbol ya the only hero that is basically confirmed to be around is the inquisitor
imagine having all 4 players in one party
And technically the inquisitor is dying, unless I’m wrong about the end of trespasser
“...perhaps the heir of some distant family” Highever because he’s a Cousland!
He's an Aeducan. Boy's half-dwarven and possible heir to Orzammar. He'll be conniving, killing his half-brother or his cousin/s for the throne :D
He is heir to the Ferelden throne if: his father is Loghain, if his father is an Allister who become king, or if his father is a Warden who becomes prince consort.
@@Saphira1001fanfic so many levels of cringe if it's alistair or loghain.
He is the son of Lorcan Amell, a mage descended of the Amells of Kirkwall.
@@johnpoole3871 isn't mage origin warden loosely related to hawke's family? is inquisitor close to relation at all or is he a total random?
I swear if the Warden comes back in DA4, it better be on the back of a flying Tevinter magister, wielding the sword of Andresta in one hand and an archdemon's claw in the other, with two of Solas' orbs for eyes and with a pet pride demon called Pickles. I will settle for nothing less.
Lol. I'm good with that. It'd be cool if this new Darvin character is an apprentice of The Hero of Ferelden, assuming that the Hero isn't in DA:4 themselves.
@@AP-te6mk Probably not in the cards anymore. Maybe they'll mention him somewhere but I think they don't know how to bring him back. I do though, you bring him back as the main character to play.
DA2 ruined everything.
Morrigan can probably give his location because he might still have her ring. If so that's a nice little touch.
for real their romance was so nicely done. leliana is a sweetheart too but morrigan is a very rare woman, both strong and yet fiercely loyal to the people she loves, which are few. In the end it was just her husband and her son who she loved, she's like apex traditional values as funny as that sounds since she's so headstrong.
they should have made a game that continues hero of ferelden since morrigan sets him up for an entire campaign searching for a cure, and they could have had her come in at some climax to the story after the inquisition was done. I think part of why da2 was so meh is we had no reason to really care about our hero and he didn't really stand out too much to begin with. they fixed it a bit in inquisition with more customization reminiscent to origins even choosing your race, and yet his story was strong enough being the inquisitor with the fade mark to be interesting on his own. hero of kirkwall felt little more than glorified errand boy and at best he was involved in some random civil war in a town he lived in for years, it just wasn't that spectacular.
Who knows maybe it was a one time use and they did use it when the warden was captured
@@johnpantag472 Definitely not one-time use. If you go into the Witch Hunt DLC and you have the ring, Morrigan will say she sensed your coming due to it. This happens regardless of whether or not you got captured.
“Will his father be joining us as well?”
“His father is dead”
Well DAMN Morrigan
How he died?
juan ig well as a grey warden you have to sacrifice yourself to kill the arch demon if you didn’t do the old god baby ritual and had him by normal means, so basically the grey warden (kierans father) sacrificed himself to kill the arch demon in that world save
@@withering.chariot3720 damn spoil the game for him LMAOOO
@@-t96 I mean if they're looking up DAI conversation trees then spoilers about things that happened in DAO should come as free game, no? :))
@@withering.chariot3720 wait that can't be right, didn't morrigan promised the grey warden that by having a child nobody would need to be sacrificed?
God, her love for her son is so heart-breakingly touching. She was so ready to give up herself just so he could live, which was the one thing she worked so hard to prevent in DAO.
that happy little grin at the start when she talks to the inquisitor about her son after he leaves.
''Even though you know little of me'' I know more than you think. Like a close friend but well... let's say the Couslands would be proud.
"When the Champion of Kirkwall mentioned the Grey Warden ally, I assumed that ally would be he."
You and the fan base both, Morrigian.
I thought it was Hawke's mage sister
That would've been so fucking dope, if it was Warden Carver or Bethany.
Terrible for either of them tho, considering that's the only family they have left after DA2...Jesus that's dark. Imagine having go thru all that trauma in da2 to then watch ur sibling sacrifice when you think all that's behind you.
"If I do anything well by Kieran it will be to inflict as little damage as possible"
I teared up a bit, she knows she's not the best mother, but still tries her damn hardest to be good.
She acknowledges her dysfunctional behavior but still works hard to raise her son properly, golden.
My favourite outcome for the Warden:
- Aedan Cousland
- Romance Morrigan
- Harden Alistair's resolve
- Arrange a marriage between Alistair and Anora
- Spare and recruit Loghain
- Leave with Morrigan through the Eluvian.
The tragedy of the Grey Wardens is that they don't get to enjoy the world they save. Ours is special, though, and his reward for his heroism is a home and a family, bringing his story full circle, since it starts with him losing his home and his family. Alistair is safe on the throne and is prepared to rule, but also has the support of someone much, much more experienced. Loghain, meanwhile, dies to save a Ferelden refugee who had to flee their home because of Loghain's withdrawal at Ostagar, which allowed the Darkspawn to march on Lothering.
It's literally perfect.
Exactly my choice.
oh hell yeah, same here
loghain gets his chance at redemption, ferelden gets the best of both Alistair and and anora and the Warden can live happily ever after with his wife and child
I did make him human though
It's further shown in inquisition that everyone hates the wardens and one (big) f up can make other forget everything they've done. I always get many dissaprovals from solas because I defend the wardens. I had to stop a playthrough because his approval was too low. I was using fair weather friends too
Was still deciding between Hawke or Loghain, and I think your last sentence sealed it for me.
Personally, I prefer a Human Mage Warden (Hawke's cousin), but I agree with all of the other choices. Loghain's redemption arc really is superb.
Its a shame we never got to interact more with Kieran, just a small introduction. It would have been nice to get to know him a little better.
His voice actor, Odin Black, was about 10 years old at the time. It's hard to get good readings out of someone so young
@@ethanor Yeah i can understand that, but technically this child is the players child. Don't you think you would want to see the npc you have spawned from your character?
Am I the only one who's heart breaks with all this dialogue? Knowing all the endings and at the same time at this point not knowing where our warden is?
At least in canon he’s alive
@@gallyg2563 I thought the canon was that the Warden was a male Dalish Warrior that died at Denerim?
@@theeternalshade2981 the approved canon is actually the Cousland route, meaning noble born, it has a deeper perspective in relation with some of your companions like Alistair, Zevran Morrigan and Leliana, as well as, the mabari named by the player, in awakening if the warden survives and since awakening is canon it explains a lot more the relationship between the warden commander, Amaranthine and whatever is still there of Howe family, meaning it became just a lot more heavier, in witch hunt it only give the chance to go or not with Morrigan.
@@Zanc-nu8lf Whichever route makes the most sense isn't quite as important. The default worldstate ("canon"), as confirmed by both Mark Darrah (the executive producer) and the Tapestry is: Female Dalish Elf, ultimate sacrifice, King Alistair. For DA2, it's a Mage Hawke that sides with the mages.
mobile.twitter.com/BioMarkDarrah/status/364864515717873665
I had to look this up for someone else just last week to be certain.
There is no such thing as approved canon.. The canon is the Dalish Warrior@@Zanc-nu8lf
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH i wish HOF could be the Grey Warden ally, that would be so epic. And so hard to choose between Warden and Hawke. Imagine Morrigna's reaction if Warden doesn't come back from the fade, i think there would be one less inquisitor in the world.
That wouldn't really be a choice. Bye bye hawke, I won't even feel bad. I am setting up my power couples (Warden/Morrigan and Inquisitor/Cassandra) to absolutely demolish DA4 or 5. I can only dream :D
@@alexandrospapadopoulos4297 I agree with this message
The Hero , The Champion, and The Inquisitor oh man
The Warden Commander is not only the Hero of Ferelden, he is also Champion of Redcliffe, Hero of Orzammar, Savior of the elves and werewolves, the true Herald of Andraste,King/Queen of Ferelden, Arl/Arlessa of Amaranthine. He/She didn't need a powerup to destroy a magister and a broodmother.
@@Lucas-iw5xo XD
@@Lucas-iw5xo Uldred didn't have time magic, there is no true herald of Andraste, all the other things are determinant except The Hero Of Ferelden part, and it took 4 allies to destroy that broodmother.
Hawke was a nobody that defeated the Qunari in Kirkwall which makes them more impressive than the HoF automatically.
@Yasser Bostan lol, he and 3 other people. By abusing basillas to do so. Hawke had only his bought weapons.
@Yasser Bostan ok, lol, I'm sure your warden is very badass
You can hear that Morrigan has matured from her voice alone.
The fact that her son is VA by her actual son irl is awesome js
Morrigan: No one could hurt my son more than I. I could hurt him in irreparable ways that I fear more than life itself.
Morrigan: How dare you ask if I'm happy.
....I see there's still a spark of rivalry between Morrigan and Leliana (7:18)
We'll, I triggered the bug, both of them we're mine, sadly, there wasn't a way to get Leliana pregnant, it would've been cool too, to have a little kid near her tent in haven.
@@jameschristophercirujano6650 blame Margeline for stabbing Leliana. She ruined her womb with that blade so Leliana wouldn't get pregnant by the soldiers who raped her in the dungeon. This game really went there when it could... 🐉
@@haroldhoover9498 Oh, yeah. I really missed that part. The abdomen's pretty big so the chances are bigger that her womb wasn't hit. It makes more sense since the blade should be stabbed upward with a bit of incline to generate thrust. Unless Marjolaine stabbed her just above her vagine.
@@jameschristophercirujano6650 justo recently played Leliana's song and for what i was able to see the stab happened at the right side of the abdomen, but a little over where the womb may be and surprisingly closer to the stomach, I am not really sure if an injury to the womb would cause the symptoms shown when she was stabbed but a direct injury to the stomach actually can easily bring the biggest and strongest of men to their knees, easily
@@Zanc-nu8lf Well, at the end of the day, it's the writer's story, just that since they do offer an expanded relationship status than a traditional man x woman, I just hoped they give the option for the traditional male fantasy of impregnating all characters and do a Genghis Khan in a fantasy world XD
Everytime I hear them talk about the hero of ferelden, i kinda tear up a little.
He’s alive but just off finding a cure for something but I bet he’ll be back with Morrigan and Kieran
100% Hoping for a new game to straight up let you choose a protagonist from any of the previous Dragon Age games to play as. Bring back the Warden and get to play as a dwarven king or savior of the elves... one can dream...
right? like, it doesn't even matter who the antagonist is, the warden's cleaning shop. I dun care if it's fen harel, some freaky ass qunari, or my dad after a few drinks, they're beatin everyones ass ;3;
The Warden should have been a DLC, it would have been epic to see him interact with his son. My Warden was incredibly powerful. More powerful than my Inquistor.
too bad it's been a long time since they released it and nothing
Yeah I thought that was bullshit. It should have been a DLC with your Warden finding a cure for the calling.
What do you mean too powerful?
I think he means dual wielding warrior that oneshots everything on the hardest difficulty. That kind of too powerful xd
I would imagine my Dalish Warden being voiced by mark meer in the DLC if it came true.
8:55 "He could be a great aid against Coryphaeus, or terrible foe to the Inquisition"
Sends chills to my spine. She knows what Warden is capable of.
Yeah 😨😨😨 he would be a terrible foe against the Inquisition….just imagine…the damages he could cause
This makes me want to replay DAO again XD
I enjoy that everyone seems to have chosen the Cousland origin, and I chose the Tabris origin, so my Kieran is Half-Elf. And it's strange, since I hadn't seen him before I played Origins, so I coincidentally designed my Elven Warden to look eerily similar to his son, lol.
I too played as Tabris!
My HoF is all white with blue eyes, so he’s pretty off with the colouring (except for the skin, I guess) But he has pretty similar facial features to Keiran, and it warms my heart.
No such thing as half elves in DA, Human elf children are always Human
I always mained either Tabris or Mahariel. Landed on a Tabris for my main save that I used in DA2/DAI tho
"Mom, can you wear more clothes?"
I love how her having Kieran with the Warden changed her so much, she's a big ol mama bear
8:59 My dear Morrigon still low balling Alistair are you?
Morrigan and Allistair simply do not mix! lol
Funnily enough, if Alistair is Keiran's father she will speak oddly highly of Alistair. If Alistair asks her "What does Keiran know of... his parentage?" Morrigan will tell him that "he's been told his father was a good man. I felt you deserved at least that much".
Compare that to Loghain asking the same question she will say "Keiran knows nothing of his father, and it will stay that way."
"He has done well. His father has every reason to be proud."
Is that when the Warden dies?
+Kazz or maybe when he was attacked?
Isn't that when Morrigan performed the ritual with either Alistair or Loghain?
I'm guessing here but it seemed to be if Kieran's a normal child rather than the OGB. If that's the case, the father can only be the warden.
the HoF better be in DA4 with the most epic entrance scene ever. If they were in Inquisition the breach would be closed in 15 minutes.
I hope we get to see the warden again. Even if he died, there is the orlesian warden, or could follow biowares own cannon, which I think would be iffy with the fans, especially as a game. Maybe DLC.
It's heavily implied that Orlesian Warden is Stroud.
Galahad I don’t think BioWare would do that. They like their accurate passing forward of decisions, so they wouldn’t lock the Orlesian Warden into being a human male warrior. They’d probably do a builder thing like with Hawke, to avoid pissing off fans.
@@MrBean8100 Fair enough, however, you can really put any random warden in there to fill in for a Dead Warden. Just like the Orlesian Warden, that was just some random substitute character that made up on the spot, they could do that again.
They've stated many times the warden wouldn't return. But after all the shit with Andromeda and Anthem, if they were to put a teaser of our warden in the DA4 trailer...that would make many people come back just for THAT, we all want to see our warden, even if for a single cutscene. I always felt closer to the warden than hawke or the Inquisitor.
I want a prequel expansion pack to DA4 that lets you play as your Warden again or the Orlesian Warden from Awakening. I want to experience the search to end the calling and play through my Warden as he sees the world 10 years more experiences. I want to see him interact with his old crew and his love and his son.
Never played 2 or 3, but after stepping through that gate with her, this now sorta completes my head canon :p
Thanks!
I: Will his father be joining us as well?
M: ...unlikely
5 minutes later
Alistair/Logain arrive in Skyhold.
M: %$&@
future DA games Kieran is protagonist and his companion is Connor from redcliffe , Inquisitor child, hawke siblings,
Guess he doesn't exist in Veilguard.
Yeah, I think they just disregarded every Dark Ritual ending and just had the sacrifice ending. A shame, really. I'd have been fine if they only just made it be relevant for like a offhand comment or a codex entry.
i went through the mirror with Morrigan in DAO and now i question what "events conspired' that would make him leave. SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!
Old post, I know, but what she's referring to is the HoF's quest to find a cure for the taint and end the Calling for Grey Wardens.
She almost sounds like Flemeth in Inquisition
remember how Morrigan used to make fun of her reputation and didn't cared about the consequences? Kieran brought out a fine mother out of her.
What Morrigan said about leash and safe sleep reminded me of Orsino. With the difference she didn’t became a corpse blood magic powered golem or assisted a serial killer.
Imagine if someone in Veilguard's dev team had watched this. Maybe we would have gotten the Morrigan players remembered rather than some entity wearing her face and skin.
Morrigan will forever be my favorite romance option.
I just finished dragon age origins and I agreed to have a child with her. My warden was an elven mage so I'm wondering if Kaden will be an elven mage in inquisition. I played inquisition already, but when I found out about the dragons keep website I inputted my choices in the website. So this will be very interesting outcome when I play it again.
Morrigan as a mother is quite wholesome, in a way
A terrible foe indeed.
Agreed
Yeah, you can imagine the Warden making a solo against the Inquisition and killing half of the organisation before being putting down.
I love Morrigan but they shouldnt have let Claudia Black's son do any voice acting :D But it warms my heart so hearing her talking about being a happy family the three of them, so satisfying :D
Morrigan romance with an Amell would be interesting connecting hawk even more to inquisition
In the fourth game we need to see the Warden being a father and not a background disappeared character.
1:05 awkward...
I love how even when the warden is not with morrigan she still cares, fears, and respects him.
Ah, Morrigan. She was awesome.
My OG Warden was an Aeduncan Rogue. Has two kids but Kieran was fully raised with both parents unlike his kid with Mandy he had before he was banished. I really loved this ending for my warden after the work I did to get the endings I though best for Origins and DA2
0:34 like stockings!
With Dragon Age 4 on the horizon, I wonder what role will Kieran play?
i wanted to know that if the kid is aware of his nature.. If he knows that he is a god.
@@traumabasedmindcontrol8259 He WAS one, before Flemeth taken his old god soul from him.
Kieran? Who cares about Kieran, I just wanna know what role Sandal will play!
@@chapacoka There will be a quest with a barrier to a temple/castle that we can only enter with a special rune. But in order to get said rune we must speak to a secret underground merchant
she don't said anything if you tried to kill her??
I want to know that as well.
+Marcelo Caceres is the line at 1:06 i think
+Marcelo Caceres From what I understand if you try to kill her her son isn't born.
@@Avengedtenfold Kieran was already born by the events of Witch Hunt
DanaDuchy You missed the other 2 dialogue lines at 8:20 btw =P
I thought she was commonly a spider, never knew she was also a tiger.
3:03 - Ya know, looking back, this should have been a clue.
hmmm make you vomit eh? Riight you're acting tsundere again Morrigan
Morrigan looks so hot in this game
Meh, she always does
@@yang6642"always does" her face is horribly weird when talking or making facial expressions in origins
How did Anora age so much more than Morrigan lol
1:01 I thought kieran was....hosting the soul of an old god?
Yes, but she specified in the dialogue that happens before the ritual something along the lines that the old god's soul wouldn't affect the child, specifically that the child "wouldn't be evil."
no, the kid is a god himself. The soul of the god is born in the body of that kid. That kid is the archdemon you kill in Origins.
I wonder what leads up to this point where Kieran is introduced. I played several playthroughs and never got to this point. Maybe cuz I did most of the areas/maps before I started Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts? Usually I did most of the content including the dlc's, before I started this quest. And afterwards Morrigan joins the Inquisition, but I never got introduced to her son.
In the canon playthrough, Morrigan never had a child and the HoF was a female elf who died fighting the archdemon. You have to change all the choices and decisions in the dragon age keep and upload the changed worldstates.
Did you put your game results in the Dragon Keep and transfer the files to DA:A and DA:I?
@@angelicastern2385 No, I haven't, so that must be it. Thnx :)
@@metalfyregaming2468 You’re welcome, you’re gonna love it!
damn.. the resolution.. HD? So Morrigan has kid even a Warden didn't do the "Witch of Hunt" DLC on Origins?
No, Kieran’s existence depends on whether you romanced Morrigan or did the ritual before the final battle, if you did neither then Kieran doesn’t exist, if you do the ritual then Kieran is born with the soul of Urthemiel, the old god that you fight at the end of Origins. If you romanced Morrigan but didn’t do the ritual then Kieran is born as a normal child.
maciejl20 If you do the ritual or let Loghain or Alistair sacrifice themselves sure, if you don’t do the ritual though and the Warden kills the archdemon, they’re killed along with it
My boy Kieran Aeducan has the Throne of Orzammar to inherit from his Uncle-King Bhelen.
All with or without his Stone Sense, his Mom blessed him with an Old-God Soul. 7:07
Kieran was raised to be a mountainous spirit of faith under my beliefs in the Stone and the Maker.
Even though the Calling sings louder, I shall overcome with the Power of Blood, Avernus' ethical research, and the Architect.
Returning to the Stone, the Maker, the Fade, or to my Morrigan and Kieran; I will let faith, love, and wisdom be my guides.
Your Inquisitor looks like Theo Von
Technically he is a heir because If you play male cousland and do the ritual he’s your son and therefore has a claim to highever or let’s say female cousland and you romance Alastair and you tell him to do the ritual he has a claim on the throne of Ferelden
Also Aeducan heir if you chose Harrowmont.
It never occurred to me to make my Inquisitor different to my Warden, so it was rather unnerving to hear Morrigan talk about him when, in terms of appearance, name, and abilities he was standing right in front of her.
XDDDDDDDD my Hawke and Hero of Ferelden are equals. And now my Inquisitor will became the SAME PEOPLE. That is DRAGON CLONE AGE
Which of these are reference to the kid being from Logain?
Wow, so if warden had lived so he is just hearing real Calling that why he/she is not in the games? clever
Dude, the Calling is 30 years after the Joining. And the Warden's was 10 years ago.
@@varric i think Calling can come to different wardens in different time, depending on amount of blight in blood or smthing, its literally a slow poison.
wait....Loghain can appear in inquisition? I had no idea after all these years...I'm disappointed in myself lol.
The way she says "protect him to my last breath" makes me wonder if she will eventually die by sacrificing herself in some way in a future game to save Kieran. On another note, imagine having Morrigan as a mother-in-law lol.
So fiona is alisters mother she was a grey warden before giving birth, then the taint was gone after, maybe the secret to overcoming the calling is child birth sooo only women can overcome it at least that way and maybe men can another way.... Like by passing on their blight to a younger warden mmmm but idk how it would transfer possibly blood magic but it's hard to say. I'm thinking someone should make a theroy about it
When did Morrigan lose her cat eyes? Aww...
i hope the warden returns in da4
Being a mother made her somehow even hotter
Morrigan seems happier being a mother
Bruh, Avernus used blood magic and the lives of captured Nobles and their soldiers to prolong his own life. That is hardly an acceptable option.
It funny to think this kid is all powerful God
Somebody please can remind me why she said his father is dead? This ritual they did was for saving wardens life...?..
You can have Kieran born without the ritual if you romance and sleep with her without doing the ritual
@@Cosmicrunner6665 is this child planned or is it suprise?+ I am sure that i've seen "human kieran" as alistair son or loghain son.
@@ervus3289 idk about human Loghain Alistair but Im confident it's a surprise for the warden and morrigan
Is all of this with morrigan and her son only in a dlc? I've played dragon age numerous times and never ran into him yet. I've missed a lot and always find something new when I play again
No, it’s in the main game. You can talk to him in the inquisition keep.
Have to have someone bone morrigan before the final battle
I knew it morrigan become pregnant when the 1st time she ask warden to join her in her tent
So... There's a Michael York inquisitor mod?
So, all the data from the origins games... Do they carry over to the PS4 version?
We need dlc for Lilliana... what about that story line? Cmon multiple characters and story's and love choices... that makes alot of different story's. These games are great and I love them but they do lack alot of possibilities due to lack of dlc... and I swear the game revoves around morrigan... she has the most lore and dlc out of all characters shit even (the warden) dies leaving morrigan and boy alone, sad 😔
I always thought kieran sounded too young for his age... then i learned that despite his massive(relative) size, he's only 10 years old.
Funny how in game almost every character wears same outfit after many years.
It almost screams that the developers were just lazy to make new clothes for them.
Ah yes, the character that does not exist in my version.
The character in itself is so important and still present to this day.
I've seen them trying to cover the HoF absence by saying that the ending where they sacrificied is canon... and I get that. I get that the HoF has make their times and new heroes will arise in the next games.
But you can't tell me a DLC is impossible, for the payers who keeps asking after their Hero.
It doesn't need to be a BIG adventure... i just wants to see my Warden possibly in her last days, fighting against her Calling.
I love you too, ex-Swamp Witch.
RIP Bioware.
I guess she lied about the father not being in the picture at all
Why does Morrigan say "I wish things had been different in the end"? I am playing two games with the exact same keep configuration. In both of them, the Warden is alive and Alistair is Kieran's father. In one save she says this, in the other something else. What triggers that??
I think she said it if the Warden refuses her and she leaves before the final battle. She regrets abandoning him.
It must be a bug in your game.
@@juanlaise1059 That makes sense, thanks!
It's strange how Morrigan is such a dutiful and endearing mother yet still dresses so immodestly.
Don't they call that a MILF? lol
the two have nothing to do with one another. modesty holds no weight when it comes to someone's character, mate. i hardly see how being a good mother would get in the way of her dressing the way that makes her happy.
She is literally a bog witch, let her live. HER mother eats people.
Morrigan knows of Fiona, does she knows who Fiona actually is?
About Alistair? No, only Duncan and Loghain
Must I play DAO to get this scenes/dialogue?
Tyrus Cheese just match up a Dragon Age Keep save that has what you want to have happened in previous games for when you start a new game