Do You Talk to Your Coworkers About Pay?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @taylors4243
    @taylors4243 4 месяца назад +281

    hearing people say they are not allowed to is heartbreaking. not knowing that it is illegal for someone to say that to them.

    • @misspat7555
      @misspat7555 4 месяца назад +11

      Doesn’t matter; the punishment for forbidding talking about your wages is a mere slap on the wrist, in the unlikely case someone actually has the time, money, and energy to bring a case against them. Current employees don’t want to antagonize employers; former employees can be accused of being “bitter”, and besides, probably have no money.

    • @jazzyperson6797
      @jazzyperson6797 4 месяца назад

      I had a similar issue with recording a conversation in a 1 party consent state

  • @sinthoras1917
    @sinthoras1917 4 месяца назад +153

    You should. Otherwise your employer can get away with paying different wages for the same work

    • @nellosnook4454
      @nellosnook4454 4 месяца назад +17

      1. Totally agree. 👍
      2. A highly-productive friend of mine recently left her company after she realized she was receiving far less compensation than her boss’ pet sycophants.
      3. She’s now doing MUCH better at another company.
      4. Knowledge is POWER. 💪

    • @sinthoras1917
      @sinthoras1917 4 месяца назад

      @@nellosnook4454 yes, this is especially important for women, who usually get scammed even more

    • @maylin1986
      @maylin1986 4 месяца назад +5

      This was an issue, even in the 80's. Major uproar when women, who were working in job settings where either gender was capable, minus heavy lifting jobs, was paid less than men. Working the same amount of hours, doing the same kind of work.
      This wasn't anything to question back then, because the assumption was, by a lot of adults then, everyone was paid equally. I think this was an issue salaried and hourly wage-based. No matter where women worked, they were paid less than men. Glad someone spilled the beans and became more aware of that issue, back then. ✌️✨️

    • @badart3204
      @badart3204 2 месяца назад

      You should not if you are confident you make more than your coworkers due to better negotiation skills. It promotes resentment from them towards oneself and pisses off management.

  • @lephtovermeet
    @lephtovermeet 4 месяца назад +72

    The one person nailed it: we don't know what management makes and that's what really matters. We can fight about if a coworker makes 2% more than you, but we should really be united against management, c level, board memebers etc making many multiplea more than you.

    • @TheGeenat
      @TheGeenat 3 месяца назад

      Yes. Because you certainly don’t have what it takes to ever be one of those. So your only slim chance is crying about the pay gap

    • @lephtovermeet
      @lephtovermeet 3 месяца назад

      @@TheGeenat serf loves blowing his feudal lord.

    • @duvvly
      @duvvly 3 месяца назад

      @@TheGeenatYeah dude. Accept your shitty position because you just don't have the talent to be a middle manager. rofl

    • @Firesgone
      @Firesgone 3 месяца назад

      ​@@TheGeenat
      There is only a handful of management positions compared to all other positions.
      There just isn't enough of those jobs with everyone conpeting for them.
      Most jobs are minimum wage below living wage, and in the service industry. Which itself has a minimal ladder to climb in ranks.
      Higher pay to just make living wage for the area is very important, and hardly anyine cares at all about upper classes existing in the first place, except themselves.

  • @codyreber8370
    @codyreber8370 4 месяца назад +98

    I had a boss threaten to fire me about talking to coworkers about wages. Needless to say I rebutted by saying well if he wants to threaten me he can do it in a courtroom.

    • @TheGeenat
      @TheGeenat 3 месяца назад +2

      Nah they’ll just rid of you

    • @codyreber8370
      @codyreber8370 3 месяца назад +12

      ​@TheGeenat funny story. I was the only driver who could drive the 5 ton trucks left. I wrote up documents for the women to make a claim against them for sexual discrimination in violation of the human rights code of BC as well as the human rights act of canada. They had to settle these, basically 4000 dollars or so per woman depending on how long they worked there to make up the discrepancy. They all quit at the same time i did. It hurt their business way more than me because i found a job that paid 4 times as much

  • @sunshine3914
    @sunshine3914 4 месяца назад +54

    Mamas & Daddies… tell your children to discuss wages with their peers & coworkers.

  • @leelindsay5618
    @leelindsay5618 4 месяца назад +32

    I remember when I didn't know that it was my legal right - I was working for a major computer corporation and found out that I was one of the lowest paid people doing my job and the men I was training made several dollars more per hour....but I was training them😢. I now work in a government job and have a union. My pay is great. My work environment is so much better. I am much happier.

    • @Liberal.Linda.
      @Liberal.Linda. 4 месяца назад +4

      Oh, LeeLindsay, I am seething for you. But SO glad your story has a happy ending.
      To everyone in general: THIS is why especially women need to talk about this, and all other things pertaining to finances, managing our money. The patriarchy keeps us in the dark as one more way to keep us pliable and beholden to men.

  • @davidroob4835
    @davidroob4835 4 месяца назад +65

    It only helps everyone at the working level to talk to each other

  • @AgentQQ8
    @AgentQQ8 4 месяца назад +18

    And that, friends, is how board members get away with making 250 times their lowest paid employee.

  • @terrischmidt6943
    @terrischmidt6943 4 месяца назад +10

    One company I worked for had this rule. Four men did the same job I did but I was expected to do half of the secretary's work. Every man there made $800 dollars more weekly and only had to do one job.

  • @sunshine3914
    @sunshine3914 4 месяца назад +23

    It’s been over 15 years, but I had become a new hire during annual reviews, & the corporation had changed its raise policy. No longer biannual nor variable, it was now ten cents across the board. That got everyone to talking, FINALLY! One guy, 6 years under his belt with the company, hard worker, funny guy, always kicked ass getting the job done… was making $4 less than I was.
    Wasn’t anything new. I had worked at another corporation where the majority were 20-30 year
    veterans who were making half of what the new hires, with zero experience with hazmat, were hired at.

  • @feralhomunculus
    @feralhomunculus 3 месяца назад +3

    💯 talk about it! I found out I was doing the same job as another coworker who hadn't been there much longer, and I went to the owner and said, "Hey, so in so's making this much per hour and unless you want me to do less work, I think I should be equally compensated." And my hourly immediately went up $3. Know your worth, and don't be afraid to ask for compensation.

  • @Sleepless_Sam
    @Sleepless_Sam 4 месяца назад +55

    I'd be more than fine with my company informing us of their revenue, profits, expenses, and all individual employee salaries/wages.
    The only thing we would lose is their ability to exploit us.

  • @Debate_everything
    @Debate_everything 4 месяца назад +4

    I highly encourage everyone to talk about the salaries with their colleagues. Don’t be afraid to find out that you’re being underpaid. That’s how you can figure out that you’re being underpaid especially when you’re doing the same job as somebody else. Get your fucking money. Companies don’t want to talk about salaries and pay. Because they are always gonna try to pay you as cheap as possible.

  • @WillowEtain
    @WillowEtain 4 месяца назад +11

    You SHOULD and you should be unionizing too

  • @michaeltrousdale2510
    @michaeltrousdale2510 4 месяца назад +33

    Love being union!! And 99 percent of time you know who is the straw boss!😂😂

  • @friedzombie4
    @friedzombie4 3 месяца назад +5

    Pretty common, my old boss sent a memo about this company wide and I sent a reply back that this is illegal and linked to the Executive Order page. I got let go 3 months later for attendance issues because I needed back surgery but I won that settlement and am finally about to reenter the workforce again so I landed on my feet all things considered.

  • @dabirdalton
    @dabirdalton 4 месяца назад +2

    Some companies with illegally fire employees who discuss with they and their coworkers make. I used to work for one.

  • @jazzyperson6797
    @jazzyperson6797 4 месяца назад +2

    I like making it a "casual " conversation about it, so it doesn't feel so "un professional " or whatever

  • @pholbrook2277
    @pholbrook2277 4 месяца назад +6

    In my current job, we don’t mind talking about what we make to our peers because HR is strict about what we make based on job title. Everyone in my position and title make the exact same amount.

    • @misspat7555
      @misspat7555 4 месяца назад +1

      Smart employer. Though modest raises for seniority can be reasonable, at least to a point. 🤔

  • @finchharper4647
    @finchharper4647 3 месяца назад +2

    We were told not to talk to coworkers about our pay, I broke that rule and learned what everyone made and it was crazy. Once management found out I asked everyone, because some told on me, my next raise was the lowest they could give me 2% raise. I was trying to help everyone get better wages, and the people getting the lowest wages told on me, the very people I was trying to help.

  • @anarchosherman961
    @anarchosherman961 4 месяца назад +4

    "No need to" my brother in christ, there literally is.

    • @InvisibleHotdog
      @InvisibleHotdog 2 месяца назад +1

      He followed up by saying it's all standard

  • @DerSpielMann
    @DerSpielMann 4 месяца назад +7

    WE SHOULD!

  • @loist0607
    @loist0607 4 месяца назад +1

    Discussing your salary was grounds for termination in my job.

  • @juqual78
    @juqual78 3 месяца назад

    Always talk about it! Transparency is the first step.

  • @BPTK162
    @BPTK162 4 месяца назад +7

    Surprising question to ask in NYC, where pay transparency laws exist. But a good question to ask anywhere! I remember asking a colleague once on their way out about their pay, just to make sure we were both on fairly even footing (thankfully the pay difference was relatively small). Even if you’re feeling timid about asking, look for ways to keep yourself educated on salary bands in your field; it’ll help you negotiate a higher salary!!

    • @gavintantleff
      @gavintantleff 4 месяца назад +2

      Asking about others salaries is a federally protected right at most companies nationwide

    • @usflin
      @usflin 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@gavintantleffThe right to talk about salary and pay transparency laws are two different things. A handful of states are now required to list salary in job postings and upon employee request, that's the pay transparency law.

    • @usflin
      @usflin 4 месяца назад +4

      I'm in California which also has a pay transparency law. Plenty of companies still act like it doesn't exist. I'd bet many employees are too scared to ask their companies about salary bands for fear of retaliation. It's still a problem that hasn't been improved much.

  • @Nwakaego_
    @Nwakaego_ 3 месяца назад

    Please do talk about your wages with your coworkers. It benefits us the employees for sure. Salary transparency for every employee is needed for equal and fair pay.💯

  • @khayon4364
    @khayon4364 4 месяца назад +2

    100% I do, and encourage my coworkers to do so.

  • @ZZ-qy5mv
    @ZZ-qy5mv 3 месяца назад +1

    I made sooo much more money because some of my coworkers and friends talk about it. We don’t even mind if someone is making way more because the information is gold and we all take that into our next negotiation. My industry has jobs that are mostly project based though, so we usually get a new employer at least every 2-3 years. There are a lot of opportunities to negotiate salary. Our union also publishes a wage survey every several years.
    If you feel nervous about discussing salaries, start with having the conversation with people in your industry but work at a different company.

  • @GetOfflineGetGood
    @GetOfflineGetGood 3 месяца назад +1

    I do for sure. I'm not at my job for personal fulfillment or because i love it, I'm there to make money to be allowed to live. Like nearly every other person who works.

  • @adoxartist1258
    @adoxartist1258 4 месяца назад +6

    It's a fireable offense to discuss pay with other employees at FedEx.

    • @hope1575
      @hope1575 4 месяца назад +22

      It's definitely illegal to fire someone for that

    • @PaulGuy
      @PaulGuy 4 месяца назад +13

      That's a lawsuitable firing, then.

    • @numbers0580
      @numbers0580 4 месяца назад +7

      @@hope1575 Don't worry. I used to work for FedEx, and I have full confidence in their ability to use "insubordination" as a vague catch-all when firing anyone.

    • @InternetKilledTV21
      @InternetKilledTV21 3 месяца назад

      @@numbers0580 Only in the "right to work" states if you catch my drift.

    • @uhohhotdog
      @uhohhotdog 2 месяца назад

      Time for FedEx unionize

  • @victoriahope8371
    @victoriahope8371 3 месяца назад

    You should talk to your coworkers about your pay and benefits. It just seems like a smart idea to implement.

  • @tinkergnomad
    @tinkergnomad 4 месяца назад +1

    From what I can tell, you can be fired for that (or breathing) in the US. I don't know the legality, but I know I've been threatened for willingness to discuss my wage, and willingness to listen to someone else discussing their wage.

    • @numbers0580
      @numbers0580 4 месяца назад

      The National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) in the US explicitly guarantees your right to discuss wages with anyone (coworkers, the media, your family and friends, etc) without retaliation from your employer.

  • @Leslie-es5ij
    @Leslie-es5ij 3 месяца назад

    All pay grades should be required to be published by every company !

  • @OldAndInTheWay-k1w
    @OldAndInTheWay-k1w 2 месяца назад

    Of course.... Always negotiate prevailing rates

  • @misspat7555
    @misspat7555 4 месяца назад +1

    My employer actually has the instructions not to discuss wages written in the employee handbook. When I saw that, I wondered if they might find themselves handed a lawsuit one day… 🤔

  • @lNoWayAroundItl
    @lNoWayAroundItl 3 месяца назад

    When I got a raise, management broached not to discuss wages very quickly. But there wasn't a reason to tell me because I already do. I knew I was a good worker but separately I am transparent. I have worked for family businesses to faceless corps, I am closer to my peers than to management.

  • @cjschneidt9089
    @cjschneidt9089 4 месяца назад +2

    I do and I do it all the time

  • @anitapownall9556
    @anitapownall9556 2 месяца назад

    I'm a teacher... ANYONE can look up my salary online. No need to talk. 😂😂😂

  • @dajosh42069
    @dajosh42069 4 месяца назад

    People SHOULD know what each others make. That's why wage parity doesn't exist.

  • @flyinpolack6633
    @flyinpolack6633 4 месяца назад

    EVERYONE SHOULD!

  • @Kbandz313
    @Kbandz313 4 месяца назад

    In Michigan most are making around the same amount and everybody is underpaid

  • @johndoe-wv3nu
    @johndoe-wv3nu 4 месяца назад

    I know i get paid more than my co-workers. I keep my trap shut.

  • @Nonsensically
    @Nonsensically 2 месяца назад

    This is too funny.

  • @limsalalafells
    @limsalalafells 4 месяца назад

    I have been told not to talk about my wage.
    I am happy to share my wages and talk to my co-workers about my wages.

  • @datnohi8612
    @datnohi8612 4 месяца назад

    I wouldn't do this, I recall a time when it was time for raises at the job this bullying coworker wanted to know so bad how much of a raise I got, I told her I didn't get one but I'm glad she got a .15 cent raise, I actually got a .50 cent raise 🙌 I wasn't going to tell her that who knows what she would have done after all she was a bully

  • @kalibbailey6219
    @kalibbailey6219 3 месяца назад

    Told my new co-worker day one

  • @r.c.3263
    @r.c.3263 3 месяца назад

    And why wouldnt you be allowed to disguss it? What are they hiding ?

  • @jacobsimkins6346
    @jacobsimkins6346 4 месяца назад +1

    What if your employer made you sign a contract saying you wouldn't discuss your wages with other employees in order to be hired? Isn't that also illegal?

  • @BXDudeRD2007
    @BXDudeRD2007 2 месяца назад

    I totally get wage transparency but I still feel very weird about discussing pay and I personally do not like discussing my wage I feel like it’s way too personal and I have seen people get very upset when they find out co workers wages

  • @cobalt1754
    @cobalt1754 3 месяца назад

    Talking about pay is protected speech under the National Labor Relations Act of 1935. Your employ cannot retaliate against you for discussing your pay.

  • @Raja-bz4yw
    @Raja-bz4yw 3 месяца назад

    Yes but I haven't heard my bosses talk about their wages. I have no idea how much they mAke but I'm sure they make more than us.

  • @newtagwhodis4535
    @newtagwhodis4535 3 месяца назад

    At treighta johs they pay minimum wage, 16 and it goes up maybe 0.75$/hr per year. Its undignified poverty wage.

  • @jerryfritz374
    @jerryfritz374 4 месяца назад

    I'm Retired but Still Union

  • @thomasr1051
    @thomasr1051 4 месяца назад +2

    I talk about it

  • @darabounds6671
    @darabounds6671 3 месяца назад

    I didnt until recently.

  • @Japhet_driver
    @Japhet_driver 3 месяца назад

    The not tell or ask coworkers just hurts employees wages and put power to unfair wages

  • @WSWC_
    @WSWC_ 4 месяца назад +1

    "when I was supposed to" 😅

  • @RazzN513-ip6xe
    @RazzN513-ip6xe 4 месяца назад

    I have

  • @besteven
    @besteven 4 месяца назад

    I always talked about my wages and encouraged others to do so as well. The inequality in earnings from within labor/technical groups and especially as compared to management is extreme and terrifically unfair.

  • @isisruiz598
    @isisruiz598 2 месяца назад

    When I was doing a seasonal gig at a well-known department store, about a week in a co-worker who had been there for about a year asked me what I was being paid. I told her, "The same as you and what it says online, blank dollars, right?"........People.....THE LOIN,THE WICTH,AND THE PURE AUDACITY OF THAT ABSOLUTE IDIOT when she told me, " your right, it is the same pay,but you shouldn't share that information with your co-workers, it could hurt someone's feelings" 🤨😑😤
    👏🧐
    Weren't YOU the one who asked ME about MY pay? She wasn't a manager or anything, and was around the same age as me, so it's reasonable for my face to be the embodiment of "dog,then why did you ask?" I only answered to be polite, and she's over here snipping at me. MAKE👏 IT👏 MAKE 👏SENSE 👏

    • @aboxinspace
      @aboxinspace 22 дня назад

      She probably just wanted to get you fired because you "discussed wages" (even tho she asked). There are a lot of "tall children" like that

  • @portentouslad5051
    @portentouslad5051 4 месяца назад

    An argument people often bring up is "oh no in MY contract it says I'm not allowed and because I signed it I accepted that". In German labour law that clause in your contract is void and can be ignored, it might as well be struck out. But they keep it in because some people will fall for it.

  • @randomlifts
    @randomlifts 4 месяца назад

    Do the people who want fair wages constantly bargain with small merchants? ( Flea market, etc )

  • @stevefrench3564
    @stevefrench3564 4 месяца назад

    It's not hard to figure out what mgmt makes..

  • @ianthompson2802
    @ianthompson2802 3 месяца назад

    Do it with tact and it wont be a problem

  • @VagabondTE
    @VagabondTE 4 месяца назад

    I've thought a lot about, what if people started wearing pins with their wage on it? It would be eye opening. Obviously they would be shunned and employers would ban them. Even though that would be clearly illegal. But if they could be normalized in a few small areas and then spread, that alone would be a massive deal.

  • @Brasswatchman
    @Brasswatchman 4 месяца назад

    I'd be worried about it sounding like I'm bragging.

  • @maxwaller734
    @maxwaller734 4 месяца назад +1

    *¡executive order 11246 does not describe the ability to discuss wages!* - 12:43 am Pacific DayLight Savings Time on Friday, 31 May 2024 leap year

  • @lindalapic2184
    @lindalapic2184 4 месяца назад

    Just so U know, there is a voice-over being played here over your video post.

  • @bsb1975
    @bsb1975 3 месяца назад

    Let's get a few things straight. It is absolutely none of your business how the company chooses to compensate me, and vice versa. It's called negotiation. You work out a deal between you and your employer. Later on, if you think you can do better, start interviewing with other companies. If an offer comes up that you like, go to your current employer and see if they'll at least match it. If they don't, then you walk. But all your going to get out of knowing your co-worker's compensation package are negative emotions. Plus, you might realize that, honestly, you're co-worker is a better employee than you. This is not the company's problem. This is a YOU problem. Work on yourself and make yourself more valuable to current and future employers. And grow up, for crying out loud!

  • @generator6946
    @generator6946 4 месяца назад +1

    American Business and I suppose ALL of them assume Minimum Wage and no Taxes!
    Look how wonderful THAT is for THEM!!
    WAKE UP

  • @Nefariously_ignorant
    @Nefariously_ignorant 3 месяца назад

    "don't need to" I couldn't hear him over his knuckles dragging

  • @BuhodePiedra
    @BuhodePiedra 4 месяца назад

    Absolutely not! This is disrespectful. As the only white boy on a landscape crew for a while my wages were expected to rise at a snails pace along with migrant labor even though I had multiple degrees, can use computers, can speak both languages etc etc. there are different tracks for different people even though they may be doing the same work at that time. It’s not middle school gossip time.. it’s a work place. Hustle and get another certification if you want. Gossip behind the scenes for more money? I dunno. Maybe with large corporations but don’t bring that terrible attitude into a family run small business.

    • @aboxinspace
      @aboxinspace 22 дня назад

      Who said in the video they work in a small family business? Chill bro

    • @BuhodePiedra
      @BuhodePiedra 22 дня назад

      @@aboxinspace well hey apparently 100% of folks are treating work places like middle school gossip grounds rather than upping their game

  • @troyallen8223
    @troyallen8223 4 месяца назад

    👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🔥🔥🔥

  • @aboxinspace
    @aboxinspace 22 дня назад

    Lovin' the angry boomers in the comments

  • @Fenilee
    @Fenilee 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for wearing your mask! Really wish you would wear it outside because theres still cvd risk outside

  • @jasonlacroix6083
    @jasonlacroix6083 4 месяца назад +1

    As you can see, people don't even want to comment about talking to coworkers about wages. Yet, everyone will talk endlessly about things that are of no consequence to them.

    • @TheRatsintheWalls
      @TheRatsintheWalls 4 месяца назад

      That is not what I see in this comments section.

  • @Aster-v8j
    @Aster-v8j 4 месяца назад

    Worker cooperative?

  • @anntrope491
    @anntrope491 4 месяца назад

    This will only bring trouble…

  • @davidd6660
    @davidd6660 4 месяца назад +3

    It's low key against etiquette to talk about money. Now, working in a union hospital in a blue state there's transparency for us. Now so much for mgmt.

    • @martabenavides5658
      @martabenavides5658 4 месяца назад +3

      MAJOR PROBLEM THAT IN A DEMOCRACY PEOPLE FEEL THEY MUST NOT TALK ABOUT THEIR AND THE MANAGEMENT AT ALL LEVELS SALARY

    • @Venjamin
      @Venjamin 4 месяца назад +8

      It's only against etiquette because capitalists have made it so to their own benefit. You should discuss what you make with everyone on the working levels (even outside of unions - good on you for that!) so people can see pay discrepancies and remedy for a fix.

    • @melvinthebravefish9788
      @melvinthebravefish9788 4 месяца назад +5

      I'll happily break 'etiquette' then, I worked at a care home, and someone that had been there 3 years was making less than me on my first day. If we didn't talk about it, she would have continued to be criminally underpaid. That lady deserves better, just like anyone that is being preyed upon by people that see them as sub-human 🤷‍♂️

    • @sunshine3914
      @sunshine3914 4 месяца назад +2

      @@melvinthebravefish9788Thank you! My comment was similar.

    • @B1ackWo1f13
      @B1ackWo1f13 4 месяца назад +5

      There shouldn't be etiquette when it comes to discussing pay with coworkers. That's what keeps people from talking and getting what they deserve.

  • @CoercedJab
    @CoercedJab 4 месяца назад

    Bruh she really wearing a face mask 😂

  • @RebeccaPaige
    @RebeccaPaige 4 месяца назад

    No, because it's none of anyone's business

  • @ngf5077
    @ngf5077 4 месяца назад

    It generally causes squabble amongst my employees. The poor performers don’t like coming to terms with being paid based on competency. The highest paid has been ostracized for being a bootlicker lmao

    • @TheRatsintheWalls
      @TheRatsintheWalls 4 месяца назад +1

      It sounds like you've done a bad job defining work-place culture.

  • @Xathos
    @Xathos 4 месяца назад

    I don't know why they keep pushing this girl. She looks like they hired her halfway through high school.

  • @zoloftsucks-archive7608
    @zoloftsucks-archive7608 4 месяца назад

    It makes things VERY uncomfortable if you tell someone doing the same job that you make a ton more than them

  • @shutupandeaturgrass8872
    @shutupandeaturgrass8872 4 месяца назад +4

    Thought the red hoodie was Republicunt George Santos for a sec😂

  • @michaelratliff7775
    @michaelratliff7775 3 месяца назад +1

    This is why we need unions and trades! 🫡🎓🌎✔️😎