150 Yards w/Hunting Bow - Stabilizer vs No Stabilizer
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2018
- Had some fun, and tested my accuracy with & without a 10" stabilizer on my hunting bow at 150 yards. Thirty total shots (five rounds of three arrows with a stabilizer, five rounds w/o). This was my first attempt at this, one take.
Bow setup (what I hunt with): well tuned Bowtech Destroyer 340 (2011), 70 lbs, 31" draw, well tuned Goldtip Pierce arrows- 474 grain, flying at 298 fps, Stan SX3 release, QAD HDX rest, Spot Hogg Fast Eddie site.
More stuff, and cool artwork at www.zachevenart.com 
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I did my own test at 150 yards. Results: 20 shots without stabilizer 0 hits. 20 shots with stabilizer 0 hits. So yeah. No difference.
You win
so funny. perfect~
LMAO
Ha ha, good 1
😀
I couldn't hit a semi trailer at 150 yds. This guy's an animal. Well done.
Yes you could lol
Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine ruclips.net/user/postUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
The most amazing part of the video is a non windy day in Wyoming!
Worth mentioning that this guy is an absolute ANIMAL. Most people can’t shoot 150. If ur good enough to shoot 150, then you don’t need it. If your like me, and struggle at 70-80, then u need it lol.
Great video. I think the most impressive part was using a pencil dot on the sight ring to accurately aim. I'd like to see a followup video where you shoot at 60 yards and see how many 10 rings your score versus not, because that's more of a real world scenario. As impressive as it is to hit a 2-3 foot bag from 150 yards, I'm not sure that's the best test.
What a great video! Thank you so much for doing that experiment! Valuable information!
I love this! I bought another carbon bow because it's light (and warm when it's cold) and it seemed odd that I would be aiming for reduced weight and then adding a bunch of weight to it. I think that in some cases we are so brainwashed by accessories manufacturers that we just add stuff because we believe that we are supposed to. I have never had a problem shooting tight groups within actual hunting ranges without a stabilizer. I was just told by other archers that I needed one because it will make me a better shot. I don't think that it really made a difference in actual hunting ranges (8-60 yards). I do enjoy the dampening effects that stabilizers afford me but I could get that without adding a bunch of weight. Apparently, I thought that I would be viewed as a Luddite if I didn't have all of these accoutrements on my bow. I guess it's true, it's not the equipment... it's the operator. Great video and mega badass shooting bro.
Thanks for making this video, I really appreciate your time and effort.
wow dude
i was in awe and jaw dropping the whole time
you excellent at this
Hope ya have a good season Zach, Quiver full of hope.
Great vid, like the no messing about opening and clean straight video
Awesome comparison good vid thanks Zack
Dang! Nice shooting. Great video. Very interesting. I think your experiment was set up well.
Thank you for the nice work!
That is incredible shooting !!
Great shooting! Awesome vid!
Incredible form man.
I’ve done a similar test (not video documented) and it produced very similar results. I had a front and a rear stabilizer on.....talk about a lighter unit to carry with all that stuff gone!!! WOW.
Holy Shit. This guys Amazing
Interesting results there!
Nice work I enjoyed it!
It's what u are comfortable with that's what counts :) great video and good shooting
Great video and I love the shirt. Go Pokes!
Impressive shooting!
Great vid. That’s what I needed to see.
Saw you were at 999 so I subbed. Happy 1000!
Good for you!!!
Haha, thanks!
dang. I'm just learning to be consistent at 20 yards!
Probably a little late but shooting longer distances magnifies your mistakes so you will get a lot more out of your practice if you do some long distance as well
How's it going now? Been 7 months since you posted this comment. And yeah I've been shooting for a week and a dude told me his last deer he killed at 90 yards.. fml
Don’t grip the bow with your front 4 fingers, it should sit between thumb and index finger at full draw and other fingers should be ahead of riser and not gripping it. Relax your front arm that holds the riser and make sure you have a consistent anchor somewhere on your face, don’t move arms around after draw everything should be anchored and only your form as one adjust to the target, count your breathing, assuming your bow is for the correct eye dominance and it has been setup properly tight groups at 20m are possible
@@HumanTimeMachine the riser?
Love it, nice work, I do similar hunting science experiments with my bow haha. Sweet video editing BTW 💪
Nice shooting👍 awesome eye opening (for some) test. I'm not sure what's better - the comments or the video... You should post this on Archery Talk😎
The point of a longer stabilizer and or side bar stabilizer is to calm down the pin float. He has good form and looks to be shape so he probably has the technique and back muscles to control his shot without one. NOW, someone who doesn’t shoot as much would really benefit from a longer stabilizer and weight out front. A longer stabilizer can instantly tighten groups for some/most. Buy one and make your own judgement.
Love the Backcountry hunters and Anglers shirt
Thanks! Me too ;)
It would be interesting to see it done again, but with a bow quiver in place.
yep.. I hunt with my quiver on.. its a tight spot and jammed right up against my hoyt roller guard, just clearing the limbs but the rear stab def makes a difference.
You are a hell of a shot brother
LOL Loved the start of this vid. I just went from a CBE torx 11''front/7'' rear with a lot of weights, to a Quattro 15''front/10'' rear adjusting weights so it's really not making my setup any heavier. BIG difference.
Great video..
great thanks bud...good cardio on the shoot
Great video! Awesome hat by the way ;)
Shooting is all about confidence...and training!
I would have liked to have seen the stab vs no stab done at a more reasonable range like 60-65yds where grouping would have been more possible. It would have been nice to see how group size compares with and without a stab. The 150 yard shot seems like it’s either hit or miss. It’s really hard to be precise at 150. At a range that allows for groups to be shot, we could have seen how the stab effects precision shooting.
Retest at 50 yds????
Legolas, what do your Elf eyes see?
Awesome video
just got back from opening day here in alabama and the mosquitoes are so bad this year. I feel your pain
I don't think I could land that many arrows if not one at a 150 yard target ....stablizer or no stabilizer nice shooting man
The arrows seem to have the energy of a 40# recurve bow at 20 yards upon target, from 150 yards with the compound. Technology is a wonderful thing, and a game changer.
Has anyone ever told you your brother looks just like you?
That’s good shooting!
I have never seen anyone wrap the index finger around the grip like you do that’s interesting very good shooting
Getting dark is why you didn't shoot as good right there at the end!!! Awesome test!! I wasn't expecting those results
that and fatigue, i know it was only 30shots but he is walking 300ft to get his arrows each time lol.
You mean 300 yards each time.
Good test thanks
Thats great shooting
He’s using the bowtech destroyer 340 if anyone’s wondering
I just got a 40 lb recurve bow I’m going to go deer hunting with it this year
awesome video, subscribed!
I have been shooting without a stabilizer for the past 4 months after beginning archery. I did notice that the bow was much steadier shooting at 80 yards compared to 45. I came to the conclusion that the tilt of the bow resulted in a more favorable center of gravity which assisted in a more favorable stabilization.
I do wonder if the benefit of the stabilizer is negated at such a range due to the change of the center of gravity with the tilt of the bow.
By no means am I an expert, but working with center of gravity has been a vital task in my profession.
Regardless, I am very impressed with your accuracy with a bow. Well done!
Nice work, man! I would have spread them over a ten foot area at 150 yards!
I can't see anything at 150 yards!
Top notch!!!
How did you find a calm day. No wind that’s a challenge in Wyoming itself. Thanks for the video.
... cool video, keep them coming. Just subscribed :)
let's show this to Olympic style shooters with their broomsticks
Interesting. I feel it is how stable your bow arm is to score. I'm still shooting with my 1995 Hoyt Alfa Tech 3D bow till today and have killed several wild boars with it. With or without stabilizer I can hit an orange or apple at distances up to 75 feet. I think it is how an archer grip the handle that is important. Thanks for your demonstration. I've never shot that far.
This video tells me that it's really for Olympic style shooting, and at 150 yards there are probably too many variables out of your control to make a difference. But for example the riser I just picked up is very neutrally balanced, so to adjust that I'd need to add weight, and by using a stabilizer with weights on the end, I can affect the balance more without having to add more weight.
You are an insane shot bro. I do about the is good at 80 yards. Never tried this. Idk… maybe I can do it. I shoot a Mathew’s LX lol.
Cough.. cough.. no wind. Don’t get me wrong, spectacular accuracy. Where I live has constant breezes, holding steady in the wind without a stab is possible, but tough.
Love the shirt man! oh yeah great trial and error video on to stab or not to stab. I feel my bow kicks to much without a stab and it also has a lean to the quiver to it. Do you hunt with out a bow quiver?
I’ve owned several bows over the years, some of them I shot well with out stabilizers. My current bows I feel like they need to have them
Nice shooting
You should try a V-bar set up vs without
This whole video is a humble brag, hahahaha. Just kidding man. You are a savage making it rain out at that distance!! Well done!
Are you ok around kryptonite?
Thanks for making this video, it seemed to me up until the last round the groups without stabilizer were slightly better. I was just wondering about this very thing stabilizer vs no stabilizer. I could see how the weight out front creates leverage to magnify torque rather than reduce it....just a theory though.
That’s very similar results at 150 yards.
I imagine at actual hunting distances the groups would be essentially the same.
He's right. A well exercised arm and a practiced, dead hand are all the mass stabilization you really need.
Science! thanks
Great video, Zach. I'm wondering if stabilizers make more of a difference if the wind is blowing.
I've noticed it catches more wind. Some companies make their stabilizers flat to try to help minimize the wind drag.
I've recently dropped using a stab on a carbon defiant 34. Especially in the wind where the stap gets blown around more.
Each bow is different though
I subbed because of this video. A couple of questions. 1) What is your bow poundage set at? 2) Did you notice more feedback without the stabilizer? 3) If you noticed a little more feedback WITHOUT the stabilizer ... would a stubby Limbsaver style stabilizer suffice?
1. 70 pounds (my normal hunting setup). 2. All I really noticed without the stabilizer was more kick-back (bottom of the bow kicking forward), but the results show me how much that affected the bow's accuracy ;) P.S. This kick-back is noticeably less in many of the newer bows on the market now. 3. I have found that a "stubby Limbsaver style stabiliiter" or vibration dampener does in fact help quiet, and reduce vibration in many bows I have test-shot at shops. Hope that helps.
Props for doing this without a golf cart.
Dang! nice!
I'm more impressed by the blazers. I just love blazers. This proves it.
Woah, what kind of mount do you have for that elk head? Very clean.
Seems to me that a stabilizer is a tool that helps the shooter. It also quiets your bow, but if your good enough to stablize yourself, you should have no issues.
thats amazing , do you shoot without lens or with lens?
Was there a guy hiding behind a rock 10 yards away shooting replica arrows?!!
That’s some fine shooting for sure!
I would say a stabilizer is helpful for an average shooter you just have impeccable technique so you don't need one. I slowed down the video to .25 to see your technique and there is no torquing of the bow and its extremely steady and is definitely shows in your groups.
Where did you get that public land shirt? That's awesome! Lol
The Backcountry Hunters and Anglers website!
Im not there with a tape measure but the stabilizer isnt looking too good unless they pay you to use it...
its sad that we have to disclaimer "not for hunting distance". it gets so tiring sometimes. thank you for the video.
So did the test results result in you changing your hunting set up? Are you still going to drag that 10 incher around the oak woods?
ТЕСТ ТЕСТОМ, НО ЗАКАТ ПРОСТО ШИКАРНЫЙ!
What bow did you shoot and the poundage. Nice shooting too.
Bowtech Destroyer 340 from 2011, 70 pounds. I put some more info in the video description ;)
Stabs don’t work in Wyoming... duh 🙄 haha cool test and thanks for the vid
Rambo's cousin? badass shooting.
Can you explain how you determined the appropriate place to draw a dot for 150?
Cool 👍🏻🙏🏻
I have thought about tak8ng my front stabalizer off and just run my back bar because my sight k8nd of acts like a front stabalizer
I think you shoot way better than your brother😊
I wanna move to Wyoming so bad..
I shoot 10 inch on everything... except I shot a 270 on paper with a 3 inch vibration dampener with my dad's bow the other day
Thanks for saving me some money on gear "I think I need"
You should try that with a better stabilizer setup