WIT changes their mind | Sunday Rant | Trucking Answers
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2023
- Women in Trucking Advisory Board changes their mind. The Sunday Rant is not surprised. Seriously, their is a member of the panel from the American Trucking Association and they are opposed to giving drivers overtime or even paying them for all of their time at work. So, of course this person has to parrot what Chris Spear says. Not only that but they swayed the recommendation going to the government. Some time ago they want to end the exemption for truck drivers. Now they only want to study the system. This shows how much power the ATA holds over drivers even though they do not represent driver and drivers cannot join even if they wanted to do so.
Mark@Truckinganswersnation.com
They don't pay it because....
They're jerks !!
Well put, mark. Couldn't have said it better myself 😉👍
My daughter had a Mercury Couger like that. I was always fixing that piece of junk. The day she finally traded it in on another car I had a 3 Martini lunch
I know huh!
Like a Ford Taurus but worse.
Was it a 2001 or something.
I had a company one time tell me they don’t pay overtime because it would cost me more in taxes if they did. I was very confused about that statement. Anyway, I told them I would only work 40 hours a week. Needless to say, I was let go because was told my views are different than the company. I was under load at the time and went to the truckstop. Another driver waited for me to get my things and drove off. Crazy industry
Crazy is right.
Yeah payroll takes and social security contributions increase with every wage dollar paid
It's their cost of doing business ! They profit millions every year and just need to pay their bill without crap.
I learned to always quit when I was in.
Income tax is not higher on overtime or bonus than it is on regular wages. You pay your income tax based upon one number, your annual AGI (Adjusted Gross Income). What’s taken from your check is withholding. As for Social Security and Medicare, that’s a straight percentage. It’s 7.65% however Social Security is withheld up to $168,600 and Medicare up to $125,000.
@@midlifetrucker-thombell4722 YES I understand and agree. Overtime (paid for our time) will allow for a higher gross so employer liability $ will increase.
They just don't want to pay for what they get . It's just an abusive and predatory exemption.
@@d.m.melendez2269 But is it? How many other professions can a person have a few weeks training, no educational requirements, and make six figures their second year? The exemption was fought for and won by the Teamsters back in 1938. They did not want employers limiting drivers to a 40 hour work week.
I also agree that a company shouldn't be able to just randomly pay you what they feel like paying.
Thankfully mine does
It’s never worth committing crimes to hold a lousy job. If the pay scale is unreasonable, move on to a better and more prosperous job. I get it. The office politics suck. Do what you can with what you got. The bottom line is, how much you pulling in per week and per year? Stay safe, and don’t let it drive you nuts.
Safety nuts!
That version of the Mercury Cougar was the ugliest thing on the road, no wonder it flopped big time.
Women in Trucking equals ATA.... got it.
Good catch Mark! I'd missed this.
Put the Pod cast on RUclips
It would only negatively affect their pay at the ata😂
It would negatively affect company drivers. Bigger carriers would make changes and survive. Smaller carriers would go bankrupt. Either way, the company drivers will make less per week in the end. Of course, since these bills are going nowhere it’s a moot point.
The Standards act is archaic and unnecessary. ATA needs to realize that it's an unfair wage and needs to step up with the times. A better, well educated government would yield better times for everyone. Beard is looking good Mark, keep it going!😊
Can we start a MIT (Men In Trucking)?
Awesome. Company drivers can look forward to 12 dollars an hour plus 12.00 for detention, extended, and layover pay. Sounds pretty good to me .. maybe some drivers will go back and quit and find another profession.. it's the perfect way to solve the overage in trucking.
I seems like the President of the ATA must have flunted math in school.
It only negatively affects the CEO and Chairman of thr companies pay check
I’d love to see the day we actually get paid what we deserve!
Can you put a number on that? What should an OTR W-2 company driver be paid per year?
@@midlifetrucker-thombell4722 : $100,000 minimum.
What about the driver that tried to run me off the road and kept break checking me when I tried to pass him earlier this week. How much is he worth? What about the driver going the wrong way in the hammer lane? What is he worth?
@@midlifetrucker-thombell4722 100k is a good start !
@@vintagethrifter2114 what about it ? Don’t judge the entire industry because of a couple knuckle heads!
1st. dude you interrupting the Pitts/Cle game
If you have a valid drivers license and a medical card you can negotiate any deal you want with any trucking company around however most trucking companies want you to volunteer to be an employee so that they can get a tax deduction OK tell them that you’ll volunteer to be an employee but it cost him $10,000 a year for your willingness to sign up as an employee why should you let them use your Social Security number for tax deduction for their trucking business for free
If companies start paying OT, guaranteed our mileage pay falls to 20 cent per mile. Trucking companies will always find a way to screw the driver until they can replace us completely.
If ur 20 per hour and 30 per hour over 40 then how can u get paid 20 cpm? It's not cpm! It's hourly! Sitting for free is for morons! Period!!!
When there’s more drivers looking for work, the carriers have the upper hand. Two years ago, it was reversed.
Cougar is 20 years TOO NEW.
YES JERKS.
Where do I sign up to join women in trucking?
Fuzzy math
Pretty simple.
How do we do away with the ATA that is the first thing trucking needs to do to move things in the right direction. Can anyone tell me the last thing the ATA did that actually helped truck drivers.
You don’t do away with the ATA. It’s that simple. Carriers are allowed to join groups just as we can join groups. Mark even started a group.
The ATA is basically a lobbying group. Truck drivers can start their own lobbying group but we can't even pull forward after fueling.
Women in the trucking business should be paid on the basis of how hot they are!
And let the truckers with double digit braincells chime in on how this is a bad idea to get paid for our time. 🤯🤯🤯
We’ll get paid for our time. Forty hours of it. What do you think, 40 hours at say $25 per hour? There’s always a Uber on the other three days.
If this bill were to become law, company drivers would see a substantial pay CUT. That’s right cut. Company drivers would go to 4 days on, 4 days off, and slip seat the trucks. No carrier can take the financial hit overtime would cause. SHE IS RIGHT. We will see less pay.
Explain UPS then. And other companies like it. Not only do they pay hourly wage but over time also.
@@jamesgraves9251 Yes, there are some carriers that pay it. I’m sure you understand that UPS isn’t a normal carrier. For every UPS, there’s a Yellow. Use analytical thinking. We are in a down market. Freight rates hitting record lows. Volume is down. Do you think carriers are banking record profits? Go a little further, if this passed and you were a carrier, could you come up with five ways to keep from paying overtime? I can. Every one of them hurts drivers and hard. Mark my words, they will NOT pay overtime. They’ll shift to 1099 lease contractors, they’ll move to rail for OTR, they’ll go to relay runs, they’ll limit drivers to 40 hours which will cut our pay in half. We are talking board rooms full of executives that are very smart. They know how to do long range planning.
They can’t classify drives as 1099 because that would be illegal. They can’t put it on the rails because the need the freight now not 2-3 months. If they cut driver to 40 hours who is going to to drive the truck the other 40 hours. Plus they would have get drivers home to switch out with another driver.
@@brandtgeiger I didn’t say they would classify company drivers as 1099. They’d contract lease drivers and owner operators to move the freight. JB Hunt isn’t having a problem putting more freight on rail. I’ll try and explain the 40 again. The carrier can pay 1 driver 40 hours regular time plus 30 hours of overtime. Let’s call it $30 per hour. That’s $2650. Option B: Driver A works 4 days on then 4 days off. He gets 40 hours @ $30 which is $1200. That’s it. He’s done. Driver B takes the same truck and drives 4 days (3 this week, 1 goes into next week). That driver gets 3 days, so 30 hours @ $30 which is $900. Labor expense? $2100 rather than $2650. Saving $28,600 per truck versus paying one driver overtime.
Would drivers get home more? Absolutely. Drivers would be paid far less but home every four days. Runs that have to go farther? Either relays or send them via owner operators/ lease operators.
This bill is also not going anywhere. It was introduced too late in the year. There’s not enough days in session left for either bill to make it. The key is, carriers are NOT going to suddenly take a huge payroll hit by paying overtime. I’m not saying I support it. I’m just laying out what business does.
@midlifetrucker-thombell4722: They took the financial hit on the 53' trailer standard, SCR emissions technology (DEF/REGEN) on 2010 and newer trucks, ELD's, in-cab cameras etc. But they can't figure in the cost to pay a standard wage? Come on now 🕵♂🕵♂
Woman, be silent in church.
American Turkey Association? Please roast your turkey Wieners. Happy Trucksgiving?
Crap organization of the year ?
We need to start shaming drivers that work for the ATA. Go to the heart of the companies. If you work for an ATA member company, you do not get the privilege of calling yourself a truck driver. You are a steering wheel holder, and a part of the problem. Give them no respect, make them feel ashamed that they haul freight for these shameful ATA companies.
Drivers should be coming up with a exit strategy. Industry isn’t worth being in. Plus it’s not going to get better. The bigger companies want more immigrants coming into industry so they can keep wages low and it’s a fact the amount of immigrants coming into the industry has been growing for years.
Bosnians right now. 😅
Whereas you are at work regardless of your duty status, your pay at $7.25 per hour, that’s the national minimum wage, comes out to be a little over $1600 per week. Not all that bad for being gone from home all week long. Since we have ELD, which knows exactly where you are at all times, the pay will be much greater in areas where Statenville calories have a higher minimum wage