Thanks for checking out the guide, let us know if you get your Lionheart (and congrats if you do)! Don't forget to check out my full Final Fantasy 8 walkthrough here: ruclips.net/video/UUXdsXL3dJc/видео.html
I have a question pertaining to your last video. Can I do all of that after I come back from the seifer mission. I really don't want to gain any levels and seifer would be good to gain AP with apparently.
@Vegesther I don't care about levelling up seifer. I want to know if you can not gain a single level whilst trying to get the card ability unlocked. I know ifrit gives you 20 AP and the next boss gives you 18 AP and then just use seifer by himself so your other party memebers don't level up.
For whoever plans to do a high level run: High level T-Rexaurs drop dragon fangs. Also, the beach outside of Dollet has many adamantoise encounters. You can get the adamantine from them and you don't have to sacrifice the Minotaur card.
@Vegesther That's very similar to the strategies I personally used when I played it back in the day. One more thing. On extremely rare instances, belhelmel drops laser cannons. You encounter them outside of Galbadia garden and they usually team up with blood souls if they're not by themselves.
@Vegesther You're absolutely right. The belhelmel drop is just in case it wasn't possible to obtain the laser cannons during the Laguna dream via elastoids. Kinda like a last resort method.
@Vegesther Belhelmel also drops Laser Cannons. That's how I got my Pulse Ammo and Homing Laser ability. But I can tell you right now, it was dropping them once per every 40-50 encounters with it. Resulting in one of the most tedious grinds for 4 items I have ever experienced in an RPG.
If I want to steal later cannons from elastasoid monsters. Do I have to level my characters up to level 30 and also learn the mug ability before the 2nd laguna dream sequence in the woods before you get to galbadia garden?
Ah, well don't wanna grind to lv 30 yet, I'll just get the dragon fangs from the grendels and the adamatoise when I'm level 30, figure out the pulse ammo later
I did this way back in 2005-6. Would’ve been about 14, 15. I am so excited to play this game again, I feel this game was a big part of my love of gaming .
u were older than me hahaa but like you this game was what basically got me in to gameing, so far all the dialogue and everything is how I remember, the nostalgia is soo good and it will be replayed multiple times hahahaha
Same, born July 87, I got it for the cpu and couldn't get enough. Though I never beat the game as a kid, the castle was too much for me. I loaded my save game recently and somehow did the whole castle, the end boss fight almost made me want to quit again until I saw a magic item called the end....well one hit KO...I remember spending hours trying to find a way. Something changed though, before I didnt know the story but now I finally beat the game, ff8 went from my fav game to me never wanting to play another ff game again but as a kid I couldn't get enough
In addition to the Lionheart you can get 4 out of the 5 top weapons for each other character on disc 1 without leveling up Quistis needs: 2 x malboro tentacles which you can get from modding 8 malboro cards 4 energy crystals - mod 40 Elnoyle cards 4 sharp spikes - dropped by Armadodos in the Tomb of the Unknown King - or mod from Death Claw cards Zell needs: 1 x adamantine which you'll get from the same place you get it for Squall's weapon 4 x dragon skin - which is dropped by low level Grendels which you'll also be fighting to get the Dragon Fangs for Squall's weapon so you can do that at the same time 1 x Fury Fragment - mod from 4 Blue Dragon cards Selphie needs: 1 x adamantine which you'll get from the same place you get it for Squall's weapon 3 x Star Fragments - mod 9 Iron Giant cards 2 x Curse Spikes - mod 2 Tri-Face cards You can get Irvine as far as the Bismark which is the best weapon available for him until disc 3 when Moon Fragments become available He needs: 2 Steel Pipes which you can either get from low level Wendigos in the same forest you go to to hunt Grendels for Dragon Fangs and Dragon Skin for Squall and Zell's top weapons - or mod from Elastoid cards 4 Dynamo Stones - mod 4 Blitz cards 18 Screws - dropped by Geezards on the plains around Deling city - or mod 4 Geezard cards Rinoa needs........ a little luck .... as well as some items. She needs: 1 Force Armlet which can only be gained without leveling up from the X-ATM092, and it doesn't always drop it when you destroy it. 2 Windmills - mod 2 Abyss Worm cards or dropped by Thrustaevis on the plains around Galbadia 1 Regen Ring - mod 10 Chimera cards or get from Vysage's pal "Lefty" on the foothills of the mountains south of Galbadia - (you can also get them from Chimeras in the Dingo Desert but the encounter rate is so low that it's not worth bothering) 2 Energy Crystals - mod 20 Elnoyle cards If you miss the Force armlet from X-ATM092 - you can level up and get them from level 30+ Forbiddens in the Tomb of the Unknown King, or level 30+ Ochus in the forest near Obel lake. Otherwise you'll have to settle for her next best weapon, The Cardinal. For that you need: 1x Cockatrice Pinion - mod from 1 Cockatrice card - or you can find them on the plains and forests around Galbadia 1 x Mesmerize blade - mod 1 Mesmerize card 1 x Sharp Spike - dropped by Armadodos in the Tomb of the Unknown King - or mod from Death Claw cards. You're welcome
@@cloudxd9280 you dont mod grendel bro. Instead you actually fight grendel right after second laguna dream, and before entering second garden. Grendel has high chance of appearing (almost a guarantee) and high chance of dropping dragon fang when its level is below 20
Oh thats why i dont get dr fang even i try to card mod grendel card hahaha sorry my bad and thank you for the info im really confused coz this is the 1st time i play ff8
Tell me about it. I was only 12 when this game came out and had no idea what the junction system was at the time. Replaying this after 20 years and my mind is blown 😂
Guy that gives you the quistis card in the cafeteria gives you the Elnoyle card way more frequently cause he only plays two levels of cards. Edit- want to give credit for this to a youtuber named Mike Bettencourt for this- his video pointed this out to me. ruclips.net/video/PD6Yb8lhLI4/видео.html
It seems like he goes on streaks however. When getting the 20 initial elnoyles he gave them easily, but when i went back to get the quistis ultimate weapon (which can be obtained purely through cards found in blamb) it went took 45 minutes for him to start using it, then it was every 3 games or so.
NoNameSparrow Not sure if this would help but maybe prior to winning your first 20 maybe if you’re able to keep count on the Elnoyles prior to the 20 maybe at ten or 12 maybe you could lose with crap cards/ give one of his high cards back? Maybe by let him win one it might reset the counter before that 20 Elnoyles card cap. I don’t know for sure but it did work out ok for me.
my experience the guy who is just standing in the middle of the library uses the strongest cards overall in the garden in disk 1 and uses Boss cards like Elnoyles in every match.
One person I've noticed that plays a lot of Elnoyle cards is the "gatekeeper" at Balamb Garden. He's the one behind the glass on the screen with the literal gates (one has a blue light and one has a red light). He played an Elnoyle literally almost every time I played him (I played about 15 games, and think I got 12 Elnoyles). However, he did stop playing them after awhile, so I don't know if I was just just getting super lucky or what, but yeah.
Gatekeeper is one of few players in the Balamb Garden that has level 5 cards (As well as the girl in the library, cafeteria lady, all quisits groupies and a handful of others). But Quistis Groupie #1 (Sitting together with a friend in cafeteria) ONLY plays level 5 cards (Elnoyle is a 5-card)
For those who don't want to sacrifice the Minotaur Card: You will have to wait a little while longer, but you can get the Adamantine as a Mug/Steal from the BGH251F2 boss at FH... Although it's on Disc 2, it's actually fairly early into it and if you are a Triple Triad maniac like me you can still keep all your rare cards!
@@hallowfeather2412 gameplay-wise, not really... But if you want to do 100% with all triple triad cards, you can still get it back from Card Club later on (though getting rare cards from those guys is torture)
The greatest thing about final fantasy viii being re-released in 2019 is that I now get to hear how the rest of the world pronounces galbadia and such.
I was thinking the same thing! He pronounced it "Gal-ba-deer", whereas I've always pronounced it "Gal-bay-dee-ah". However, now that I've heard it pronounced that way, it sounds better than my way, I think!
There's so many different ways to pronounce Galbadia I've found. I used to pronounce it as "Gal-bad-ee-uh", but "Gal-bay-dee-uh" sounds better. I suppose "Gal-bad-eer" and "Gal-bad-ire" are other ways of saying it. Esthar was another interesting one for me too. I always used to pronounce it as "Ess-thar", but on my most recent playthrough I found that "Es-star" rolls off the tongue so much better and just sounds better overall.
For some reason I've been misreading it all this time as gal-ah-bee-dee-ah. I somehow put an extra A in there. I kinda like it better, I'm going to stick with that lmfao
Collected some of the strongest magics for junctioning, got squalls ultimate weapon, got some of the best cards... Okay now I can progress past disc one xD
I got most of the cards needed from the two quistis trepies in the cafeteria. They aren't the most consistent but they do have almost all the cards you need for all the weapons. I have a video on my channel with everyone but Irvine's last weapon on disc 1
I managed to get Elnoyle cards from the Quistis groupie guy (The one in the back in the canteen), Dr Kadowaki in the infirmary, the gatekeeper (When you go through the barriers) and also a random guy who is sometimes to the left of the screen after going through the barrier. I had Lionheart in Deling City. The actual Lionheart limit didn't pop often, but because I had Tornado junctioned to strength on Squall I was dishing out a lot of punishment :)
The Elnoyle card shows up more often with the MiniMog in your hand playing with Cid, the guy in the back in the cafeteria and the two girls in the classroom, I have Diablos and had a hell of a time with him in my hand trying to get players to play Elnoyle. You can get the MiniMog card from the little boy in the blue shirt running downstairs from the elevator around the directory.
The only version I ever played was the original psx version. I wonder of this works on that one? That is only out of curiosity as I don't care to get Lionheart of Energy Crystals early anymore like I used to. I first got Lionheart on disk 1 back in 2003.
-Dragon Fang from T-Rexaurs -Admantine from Admantoise outside of Dollet on the beach -Play triple and get 20 Elnoyles (fairly common card; stick to playing anyone who you find has one) -> refine (Card Mod from Quezacotl) to energy crystals (10 cards = 1 energy crystal) -> refine 2 energy crystals (Ammo-RF from Ifrit) into 20 Pulse Ammo You now have all ingredients for the LionHeart on Disk One
Always found theses earlier Final Fantasy games so relaxing. Never got the Lionheart on disc1 myself, just never felt right getting it so early on in the game! Keep the Final Fantasy content coming FuzzfingerGaming.
Lol, I love how there's all of these videos focusing on getting Squall's Lionheart early because it helps you have a chance of a finisher that deals more damage...meanwhile good ol' Zell can always deal out good damage, no weapon upgrade needed, and in a more interactive way than just tapping R1 imo
To anyone who missed the chance to farm elnoyle cards in balamb garden there’s still hope!!!! You can still farm it from galbadia garden just go the corridor with stairs on the right sometimes empty others will spawn three dudes exercising, there will be a kid coming down from the stairs( if you don’t see him just walk in and out of the corridor) he will drop it for you not as much as the cafeteria dude in balamb but you can still do it... I got mine today
Playing the remastered version. I’ve never gotten further than just after the Timber mission before, and never really gave Triple Triad even a glance. So this the first time actually sitting down playing Trip. Tri. using the Refinement(I had no idea Trip. Tri. had any sort of relevance to the mechanics of the game. Boys points for making Draw a waste of time) and using the Junction system efficiently. It ridiculous how power you can become so early on but it takes a crap ton of work, time, and luck. Every minute doing it, although it doesn’t seem like it when you’re doing it, is absolutely worth it. Just need the last component for the LionHeart, and I’m fucking excited! Thanks for the help along the way. 👍
I remember doing this my first and only time and it was worth it. I actually enjoy the card game more than the real battles but seeing Squall with a Lionheart during the beginning of the game is just so badass
minor other recommendations are to keep squall and everyone else besides sefier at min level. You can do this simply by being on the dollet mission kill the other 2 members and level sefier to huge level pretty simple considering u can both draw cures from enemies and get potions so no worries about healing and free amount. Always keep cocobo world open if playing on steam just turn off event wait and let it run. You may also wanna keep a +1 or extra card then whats needed if you wanna be sure your going for all cards. Awesome video tho and is a huge help. Thanks.
Just got it in Disc 2. Holy shit, what a grind. Thanks for the vid 😊 Btw for anyone viewing this comment and attempting this method: a better way to get Elnoyle cards is to play the guy sitting in the back of the cafeteria inside Balamb Garden. He plays that card a lot more than Zell’s mom in my experience.
I just wanna add that I was about level 64 with Squall when I got to this point and realized it really doesnt drop, so I switch Rinoa and Quistis in the party, they're both Lvl 17 and started doing the card strat. I got 35 Grendels before I got 4 Dragon Fangs... LOL. Thanks for the info.
Zells limit break duel abuse together with meltdown or doomtrain cast on foe,will deal more damage then lionheart. omega will be gone in about 2 minutes.... But of course lionheart looks way cooler.
Trepie fan #1 in the cafe was where I got about 20 Enoyle cards. He doesn’t play it every round but he played it often enough (in my particular playthrough).
Remembering only from way back in the original FFVIII and don't know about any changes to the Remaster, but back then the biggest bonus for getting the Lionheart is that if you *don't* get any of the weapons *between* Revolver and Lionheart, you won't have to deal with any of the Limit Breaks from them as part of your RNG. As a result, you end up procc'ing the LH limit quite a bit more often. And Zell's mom was always one of my favorite options for early game TT binges, though there are other NPCs mentioned in other comments.
You can get all the cards you need for the energy crystals as soon as you can play they back guy in the cafeteria. I got all twenty inside a half hour. It's actually the first requirement you can meet.
Quite a few people drop elnoyle cards. I got them from zells mom, a dude in the library first screen, doctor in the infirmary, and the back quistis groupie in the cafeteria. It's nice battling different people, I feel like you get different cards to mod as well.
If anyone misses this on disc 1 or needs to get energy crystals for rinoa or quistis, there is a guy at the beginning of disc 3 in garden who is on the first floor on the right side sitting on a bench near where zell is standing. He uses elynole cards a lot and drops more of those vs. zells mom. If you don’t see him on the bench, just keep leaving and re entering the area until he populates. I earned a lot of those really quick for rinoas ultimate weapon.
Hey super late here! But I’ve found by FAR the best card player to grind for these cards etc is CID himself! Just after the timber mission is briefed to you and he’s in his office. I was able to get like 50 of these and enough ruby dragons for 100 flare in around 7 hours. That’s a lot of time, but with all rule and literally only playing one player he’s really good for thus! He has abyss worms too if you’re in for tornado.
The guy at the table in the back (vs guy talk to in front of cafeteria) has it a lot too. I saw your video too late but I managed to do everything but this card. So hopefully being on disc 2 I can do it. Got everything else. Thank you for the video!
Bro I needed to get through ffviii quickly because I'm a grown-ass man with responsibilities and not a whole lot of time, so your videos helped a great deal. Subscribing for sure (also for anticipation of your ffvii remake videos) - keep up the excellent work!
I did this on the ps1 back in the day. My disc was scratched on disc one right where you fall asleep and Laguna takes over. So I never got to the other side of that forest. I had the punishment or punisher when I finally rented the game to get passed. Then on the other side of the forest is the adamanstoise for the last piece I needed to make the lionheart.
I dunno how more efficient this is but I seem to get more elnoyle cards from the head teacher in the school, also the best way to get most of the other cards you need early game
Actually you can get most characters' ultimate weapon before the end of disc one except Irvine's because it requires Moon Stone. Quistis's and Rinoa's will have you grind for loads Elnoyle Cards because they require Energy Crystal.
A much easier way to get pulse ammo is to fight the belhelmel, they drop laser cannons which u can refine into pulse ammo! Much easier that playing cards, u can find them outside the garden by the forest where u get the dragon fangs. That's who I got my lionheart disc 1:)
Speaking of the Elnoyle card it has been my experience that the guy that gives you Quintus has the highest drop rate on the original playstation disks, but in the Steam version I got them just as much from the doctor and Cid, I also noticed the first dude stops having them (usually around the time he tries to switch from all to one) then you won't see it again for a very long time (even going to the doc and winning them there for a bit doesn't help) at that time he also stops having the Biggs and Wedge card also, and has mainly junk cards. Also when playing Cid with any trade rule (except one) after 1 to 3 games he will swap to the one rule and you have to go to the queen to get which ever rule you where using back (it leaves the garden entirely from that) even if you don't play the hand in which one pops up, this seems to be only with the steam version or someone would have mentioned it about the remaster. So all in all to get those cards I hit the first dude till he freezes out the card, hit the doc then either save and shut down for a bit or if the one rule pops up fix that and hit Zell's mom for a bit then return to the garden, in all it took near 8 hours to get 21 cards (the 20 needed and 1 to keep) and it took that time mainly from having to rotate who you hit and to run back to the queen to reset the rule from one.
T-rexuar drops dragon fang over level 30, if your over level 30 before lunatic pandora dream sequence you can steal energy crystal off the pipe monster and also you can get adamantite off the turtles next to dollet ;) that will save your cards
It's actually Laser Cannons you can mug from the 30+ Elastoids in the Lunatic Pandora Laguna dream on Disc 1, not Energy Crystals, but they still refine into Pulse Ammo as well (5). I never knew this before reading your comment.
Yep, this was my go to strategy. But I remember being cautious with t-rex because I needed its star fragments for Selphie's best weapon before it leveled too high.
you can also get selphie/quistis/squall to level 30. and do that forest dream sequeence. encounter the level 30+ elastoid and its 100% chance of a laser cannon with ammo-rf into 5 pulse ammo. saves the card method and a lot of time
just start training with t rex after getting siren and you be lvling like crazy but make sure your attk deals over at least 1.5k dmg and stock up on cures and have sleep 100%
If I remember right. There's another way to get pulse ammo. You can turn 1 power generator into 20 pulse ammo. You get it from Blitz on the centra continent. Using mug and level up will improve the odds of getting one.
Got my Dragon Fangs from fighting T-Rexaur. Got my Adamantine from fighting Adamantoise. Got my Pulse Ammo by fighting Belhelmel for 4 Laser Cannons. Ammo refining 3 into 15 Pulse Ammo and giving the 4th to Quistis for her Homing Laser ability. As you may have guessed, this is all because i'm playing a high-level run of the game. So I didn't need to play cards to obtain the upgrade materials for Lionheart and still got it on disc 1. Right before going into the Tomb of the Unknown King, infact. But I can tell you right now...getting Belhelmel to drop those 4 Laser Cannons...worst part of the entire experience. That stupid monster was dropping one cannon per what felt like every 40-50 fights. So i'm sure it took around 150 encounters with the same one monster to obtain just 4 of the same one item. That was insanely boring/tedious lol.
@@Lindormking89 True dat. However, I wasn't using a guide when playing the game until late into disc 1. And by the time I found out how to get Lionheart on disc 1, I had already passed the 2nd Dream Sequence. Forcing me to do it the "fight a bunch of monsters until they drop what I need" way. Granted, it all worked out in the end. Got it on disc 1 right before going into the Tomb of the Unknown King. And despite popular belief, it took me absolutely no Triple Triad playing or card refining to obtain it. Just doing it the classic "fight monsters and obtain rewards" way.
@@crawlingkhaos8970 how were you able to fight adamantoise that early in the game? I usually refine minotaurs card the way to dollets usually blocked isnt it?
@@Lindormking89 There's an area near Dollet called Hasberry Beach. That's where I fought them. There's another area you can fight them as well called Long Horn Island, but that area cannot be reached until disc 2.
If you never acquire Squall's other weapons, am I right in saying that the game never has the other limit finishers they provide to randomly choose from? Having just the revolver (which is mandatory of course) and the Lionheart would give you the best possible chance of seeing that finisher most frequently?
i am playing this game for the first time. What i learned from my first playthrough. Use Quistis limit break Degenerator to kill nearly every monster and if that does not work use Squall Renzokuken and Irvine AP shot
I did it by playing the guy that gives us the Quistis card in the Garden's cafeteria ("the guy in the back") because in addition to getting Elnoyle cards, the duels count towards the required number to start the Card Club quest and he also plays a lot of Malboro cards which I can Card Mod into Malboro tenticles for Quistis' ultimate weapon.
Getting the admantine is the trickiest part, as triple triad enthusiasts (like myself) don't like sacrificing the Minotaur card and the only other way to get it is to fight Admantoise which will almost certainly result in your characters levelling up :(
WOW! Got the Lionheart on disc 1 for the first time in over 20 years! I’ve only played the original game when it came out on PS1 & replayed it regularly until about the mid noughties when the then PS2 stopped, for some reason, being able to load from the 4 PS1 discs & haven’t played it in 15+ years! Was disappointed when the other FFI to IX came out on iOS that FFVIII was missing! Did periodically check if it would come out every year or so & then, kind of forgot about it so, only checked again in May 2022 & it had been out for about a year! Beenplaying it as I remembered in my usual long grinding, high level way & finished it in about 4 weeks! Now, for the first time ever I’m trying out a low level game & it’s a completely new way of playing for me & found it hard at first to get my head around it: never played much cards & once I noticed that carding gives no EXP I never used it! Low level play has been a challenge for me but, been able to get Squall’s, Rinoa’s, & Selphie’s ultimate weapons at Deling City before the end of disc 1! Could have gotten Quistis’ too if I’d been willing to pplay cards for another 20 Elnoyle, I call them E-nnoy, cards! But, had to replay over 6 & hours of play including card playing because the first time I couldn’t get Ammo-RF as Ifrit was only level 2 before Irvine was about to join the party! NEVER noticed before or knew that GF’s had to be at certain levels for certain abilities to be available to learn! Even posted on another of your videos briefly before I deleted it once I knew what the problem but, had already contacted the official website’s support via email about missing GF abikities! I just never noticed before because of my high levels that naturally levelled up the GF’s too! It’s a whole new challenge to learn how much much & how to inflict the right amount of damage to card enemies & use Seifer, haven’t gotten to Edea yet during this low level game, to level up the GF’s! It’s goes against over 20 years of the way I played, while not playing for all those 20+ years it WAS the only way I knew how play! Now I’m getting so much more stuff earlier on in the game that I just didn’t think was possible before! Thanks very much for these videos showing je a new way to play! :)
I remember figuring out how to get Lionheart on Disk One all the way back in 2003 when I was 15.5 years old!! Good memories. Also, geezo I was expecting to see VeghEsther in the comments section here.
Between how enemies increase with your levels, how strong you can get the GFs, how OP you can get party stats, and the fact that you can get some 2nd best, even ULTIMATE weapons so very early.... It's like they want you to just avoid level grinding....
what?!?! a game that focuses on story instead of grinding constantly for hours to fill the time?!?!?! it's like this game wasn't made in this day and age ;)
Really it's the same thing but the game rewards you for avoiding EXP specifically. You want to get stronger you'll still eventually have to grind battles but turning enemies into Cards and gaining only AP instead on it's own will easily imbalance the game in your favor. That goes for everything else. There is still a grind but it's just not specific to watching those little numbers go up. (Which every level up is only 1000 EXP, only mentioning that if no one was aware. It takes no time to hit max level)
This is a good low level guide but if your goal is early lionheart then you can get JUST after you leave timber. You can get dragon fangs before leaving balamb by fighting T-rexs as it's a higher level drop so just farm a bit and boom you're good. Then when you leave timber run up to(or take the train to) dollet and the beach across from dolley has adamantoise which stop adamantite. This way you can get lionheart before the dream sequence after timber!
i put so many hours into this game growing up and i was almost positive that you could bring about the lionheart finisher rather than it be a random finisher with 5 or 6 quick r1's after the last "trigger" prompt.
I remembered grinding on this game back in the day. This remake is a pain, especially as I had forgotten how much of a grind the card game could be just to junction abilities.
You could get the Lionheart on disk one in the original game! You just have to make sure to get certain items (I think the Pulse ammo) in one of the Laguna flashbacks. I can't specifically remember what to do as I have not actually done it in over 20 years. If I recall correctly, you don't even have to play the card game to do it. I don't usually worry about getting the ultimate weapons in games like this though because it's always such a hassle! Edit: OK I actually looked it up. You have to mug the Elastoids in the second Laguna Flashback for Lesser Cannons and then Ammo-RF those into Pulse Ammo. I know this could be done in the original game because I did it on my original Play Station with the original game disks back in 1999.
@@grabygrabielagrabielyta1029 no you can get there right after the timber mission just keep taking the train til the end of the tracks. Ive gotten lionheart on disc 1 so id know lmao
I pretty much had to level up early on this one, mainly because I was unwilling to sacrifice a card I needed for playing card games for Adamantine. Turns out Adamantoise (which is located in the Dollet area beach) drops this item the most consistently from Lvl 30 onwards (you only need 3 for Ultimate Weapons anyway). I made sure to get 4x Dragon Fangs from sub-30 lvl Grendels before I even attempted this. Of course trying to get Rinoa's UW caused me to inadvertently level Squall and 2 other characters to 100 (fortunately, i already had the Lion Heart by this point). And for the record, you can obtain 5 of the UWs as early as before Galbadia Garden in Disc 1 (though you can obtain Quistis's as early as before the Fire Cavern). The only one that cannot be obtained at all in Disc 1 (or Disc 2 for that matter) is Irvine's, and that's because one of the necessary items (Moon Stone) isn't obtainable until after obtaining the Ragnarok.
On the second floor outside the classroom 2 girls can spawn at the bottom of the screen. Sometimes they walk away and sometimes its a guy and a girl. Keep walking in and out until it 2 girls standing there talking. U want to play the one with her back to the screen, with the short brown hair. She plays not only elnoyle, but also snow lion, abyss worm, ruby dragon, and iron giant. Got 100 tornado and blizzaga for 2 chars, the 10 ruby dragon for quistiss limit, and the 20 elnoyle about the same time.
Might be a little late now but play cards with the quistis trepee in the BACK in the cafeteria the black dude. He was the only one that worked regularly for me.
With Zells mom you’ll need to leave town then come back if she stops playing elnoyle. Also in balamb if one npc stops then switch and they’ll play a few before they stop.
There is a man squatted down in the library beyond where you find occult fan I near the draw point he plays high level cards. Also the man at the gate inside the little window on your way to the front gate also plays some high level cards. These are my go to people for card farming. The man in the library isn’t the only character that can spawn there though I’m not sure why or why not etc.
It will take time, luck, and loads of triple triad, but you can get everything you need to make lionheart before going to Dollet. These NPCs will have the cards you need to get: Dr. Kadiwaki, trepe groupie in the cafeteria, the 2 trepe groupies in your homeroom on the second floor, the gatekeeper (if you want to progress some then Master Cid and Zells mom as well) Losing the minotaur card isn't that big of a loss since you can win it back later so card mod it to get lionheart and just wreck everything with Squall.
Personally, for the Elnoyle card, I always found that Trepie fan #1 (The one that's in the cafeteria) was the person that had the highest probability to play that card from my experience. That's where I always got mine on Disc 1 anyways.
i only want to say it's just not needed to sacrfice the Minotaur or u can - whaterver ( :D ). U will keep it back at disc 4 :) after land from space. There are 2 way to get card back - play Queen near to one point on the map after land or go on ragnarok and get it back. All methods are good :) I gonna pass it trough for 1000000 times. Thank you yo remind me this game is still working !
You could also use quezacotlz level ability to get the adamantin from the turtle at the beach of dollet, a laser canon (5 pulsar) while in the lagune szenario before galbia garden and... I can't really remember the dragon fangs, but I guess I did get it from the same mobs. :P Doing it this way will reward you even earlier with your weapon.
Pro tip, please don't do it if it's your first time playing the game, get the weapon later once the items required for it becomes available again(last third of the game if i remember correctly). Don't rush it! Getting the weapon early makes getting any other weapon for Squall worthless and unsatisfying. And since it unlocks the strongest limit break in the game it makes any other limit break useless, and makes the game horribly easy than it already is. You already have x3 speed, you can mindlessly level up whenever you need if you think the game got harder, without ruining the experience for yourself! Anyway, thats just what i think, do what u gotta do ^^
I was debating whether or not to do this method but after reading your comment, I've decided not to do it as this will be my first time playing the game properly from start to finish. I played the game back on the PS1 but never finished it so I've preordered the remaster so I can finally play the game all the way through. I'm going to take my time and enjoy it, thank you for the video fuzz! I enjoyed watching this even though I'm not going to do this method on my first playthrough.
@@craig1357 good man! I finished it twice before, the second time was the one i rushed for the weapon. i enjoyed it at first, but it felt like cheating very fast, and it really ruined my experience, since the game is already easy once you learn how to junction properly. Thats why i feel that new players should just savour the game as it normally progresses, because it really is a one of a kind experience!
@@madmomo2488 Thank you for the reply :) I completely get what you mean and I don't want to ruin the experience for myself by doing the same method as you did on your second playthrough. I'm thinking about doing a low-level run as I recently played FF7 and realised how easy the game is after grinding for a while. Would you recommend doing a low-level playthrough or should I just play the game normally and level up whilst progressing the game?
@@craig1357 generally, i think low-level run is a good idea to enjoy the game's mechanics, If you don't mind that sort of handicap. But personally i never did it, and my guess it may bother you, if you end up having to "card" monsters after every battle, so that you can get AP to learn GF abilities while not earning any exp at the same time ( i kinda remember there was a method like that). Or by cutting all the encounters off and missing all the cool enemies. That could turn into a chore. I would suggest just playing normally and not over leveling. maybe escape some fights and turn encounters off here and there if you wanna stay under leveled. And you should have the full experience in either ways!
Good Technique for Elnoyle's is to run back and forth from battling Zell's mom and the drop out student crouched by the docks. Run into the hotel to save . I find that once you get the card from one run to the other and they should have a fresh set of 4 or so battles where they will use the Elnoyle. If they don't use it after so many, run out of town and come back in.
i dont need this weapon earlier, i just wanna keep the char level as low as possible and start levelling when the stats bonus learned by GF, and make every single stats on char 255 when they reach lvl90 above. hunting dragon fang will make the char level very high
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Thanks for checking out the guide, let us know if you get your Lionheart (and congrats if you do)! Don't forget to check out my full Final Fantasy 8 walkthrough here: ruclips.net/video/UUXdsXL3dJc/видео.html
I have a question pertaining to your last video. Can I do all of that after I come back from the seifer mission. I really don't want to gain any levels and seifer would be good to gain AP with apparently.
I always seem to gain a level while trying to get the card ability unlocked
What will happen with Minotaur card? can I find it again?
@Vegesther I don't care about levelling up seifer. I want to know if you can not gain a single level whilst trying to get the card ability unlocked. I know ifrit gives you 20 AP and the next boss gives you 18 AP and then just use seifer by himself so your other party memebers don't level up.
@Vegesther you can transfer spells that's news to me that's awesome
For whoever plans to do a high level run: High level T-Rexaurs drop dragon fangs. Also, the beach outside of Dollet has many adamantoise encounters. You can get the adamantine from them and you don't have to sacrifice the Minotaur card.
@Vegesther That's very similar to the strategies I personally used when I played it back in the day. One more thing. On extremely rare instances, belhelmel drops laser cannons. You encounter them outside of Galbadia garden and they usually team up with blood souls if they're not by themselves.
@Vegesther You're absolutely right. The belhelmel drop is just in case it wasn't possible to obtain the laser cannons during the Laguna dream via elastoids. Kinda like a last resort method.
@Vegesther Belhelmel also drops Laser Cannons. That's how I got my Pulse Ammo and Homing Laser ability. But I can tell you right now, it was dropping them once per every 40-50 encounters with it. Resulting in one of the most tedious grinds for 4 items I have ever experienced in an RPG.
If I want to steal later cannons from elastasoid monsters. Do I have to level my characters up to level 30 and also learn the mug ability before the 2nd laguna dream sequence in the woods before you get to galbadia garden?
Ah, well don't wanna grind to lv 30 yet, I'll just get the dragon fangs from the grendels and the adamatoise when I'm level 30, figure out the pulse ammo later
I did this way back in 2005-6. Would’ve been about 14, 15. I am so excited to play this game again, I feel this game was a big part of my love of gaming .
u were older than me hahaa but like you this game was what basically got me in to gameing, so far all the dialogue and everything is how I remember, the nostalgia is soo good and it will be replayed multiple times hahahaha
Mf I was born that year
Same, born July 87, I got it for the cpu and couldn't get enough. Though I never beat the game as a kid, the castle was too much for me. I loaded my save game recently and somehow did the whole castle, the end boss fight almost made me want to quit again until I saw a magic item called the end....well one hit KO...I remember spending hours trying to find a way.
Something changed though, before I didnt know the story but now I finally beat the game, ff8 went from my fav game to me never wanting to play another ff game again but as a kid I couldn't get enough
@@jamesmeppler6375 Final Fantasy VII Original is better than 8, I'd suggest that and 9, but 7 is prolly the best.
In addition to the Lionheart you can get 4 out of the 5 top weapons for each other character on disc 1 without leveling up
Quistis needs:
2 x malboro tentacles which you can get from modding 8 malboro cards
4 energy crystals - mod 40 Elnoyle cards
4 sharp spikes - dropped by Armadodos in the Tomb of the Unknown King - or mod from Death Claw cards
Zell needs:
1 x adamantine which you'll get from the same place you get it for Squall's weapon
4 x dragon skin - which is dropped by low level Grendels which you'll also be fighting to get the Dragon Fangs for Squall's weapon so you can do that at the same time
1 x Fury Fragment - mod from 4 Blue Dragon cards
Selphie needs:
1 x adamantine which you'll get from the same place you get it for Squall's weapon
3 x Star Fragments - mod 9 Iron Giant cards
2 x Curse Spikes - mod 2 Tri-Face cards
You can get Irvine as far as the Bismark which is the best weapon available for him until disc 3 when Moon Fragments become available
He needs:
2 Steel Pipes which you can either get from low level Wendigos in the same forest you go to to hunt Grendels for Dragon Fangs and Dragon Skin for Squall and Zell's top weapons - or mod from Elastoid cards
4 Dynamo Stones - mod 4 Blitz cards
18 Screws - dropped by Geezards on the plains around Deling city - or mod 4 Geezard cards
Rinoa needs........ a little luck .... as well as some items.
She needs:
1 Force Armlet which can only be gained without leveling up from the X-ATM092, and it doesn't always drop it when you destroy it.
2 Windmills - mod 2 Abyss Worm cards or dropped by Thrustaevis on the plains around Galbadia
1 Regen Ring - mod 10 Chimera cards or get from Vysage's pal "Lefty" on the foothills of the mountains south of Galbadia - (you can also get them from Chimeras in the Dingo Desert but the encounter rate is so low that it's not worth bothering)
2 Energy Crystals - mod 20 Elnoyle cards
If you miss the Force armlet from X-ATM092 - you can level up and get them from level 30+ Forbiddens in the Tomb of the Unknown King, or level 30+ Ochus in the forest near Obel lake.
Otherwise you'll have to settle for her next best weapon, The Cardinal.
For that you need:
1x Cockatrice Pinion - mod from 1 Cockatrice card - or you can find them on the plains and forests around Galbadia
1 x Mesmerize blade - mod 1 Mesmerize card
1 x Sharp Spike - dropped by Armadodos in the Tomb of the Unknown King - or mod from Death Claw cards.
You're welcome
I've done it on disc one level 8 and have nearly 800 cards aswell, now I can play the game.
Same
Can i ask a question coz if you card mod a grendel card it turns into dragon fin? Not dragon fang?
@@cloudxd9280 you dont mod grendel bro. Instead you actually fight grendel right after second laguna dream, and before entering second garden.
Grendel has high chance of appearing (almost a guarantee) and high chance of dropping dragon fang when its level is below 20
Oh thats why i dont get dr fang even i try to card mod grendel card hahaha sorry my bad and thank you for the info im really confused coz this is the 1st time i play ff8
Was this your first playthrough? I don't have the card ability
This guy puts out the best guids period. Been helpful in my nostalgic playthroughs of 7 8 9 10
And Me, Of Course. XD
His way of putting the credits in the beginning of the video is why his channel isn't popular, pretty annoying.
I’ve only played 7 and 15, and just a week ago I bought 8-10/-2 because they were all on sale on the switch, playing through 8 rn
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Tell me about it. I was only 12 when this game came out and had no idea what the junction system was at the time. Replaying this after 20 years and my mind is blown 😂
90 hours later... THANK YOU SO MUCH FuzzFinger, your guides are rally the best!!! I enjoyed FF8 so much thanks to you
Guy that gives you the quistis card in the cafeteria gives you the Elnoyle card way more frequently cause he only plays two levels of cards.
Edit- want to give credit for this to a youtuber named Mike Bettencourt for this- his video pointed this out to me.
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Yeah I noticed that too plus he gives you Red Dragon or whatever it's called
It seems like he goes on streaks however. When getting the 20 initial elnoyles he gave them easily, but when i went back to get the quistis ultimate weapon (which can be obtained purely through cards found in blamb) it went took 45 minutes for him to start using it, then it was every 3 games or so.
NoNameSparrow Not sure if this would help but maybe prior to winning your first 20 maybe if you’re able to keep count on the Elnoyles prior to the 20 maybe at ten or 12 maybe you could lose with crap cards/ give one of his high cards back? Maybe by let him win one it might reset the counter before that 20 Elnoyles card cap. I don’t know for sure but it did work out ok for me.
The guy you get the quistis card from in the cafeteria has much more elnoyles
you get the quistis card from the girl in the class
You can get the quistis card from a few diffrent people
my experience the guy who is just standing in the middle of the library uses the strongest cards overall in the garden in disk 1 and uses Boss cards like Elnoyles in every match.
I got lots of E cards from Cid.
The gate keeper gave me tonnes of elnoyles plus heaps of other high rank cards.ruby dragon,tonberry and iron giant💪💯
One person I've noticed that plays a lot of Elnoyle cards is the "gatekeeper" at Balamb Garden. He's the one behind the glass on the screen with the literal gates (one has a blue light and one has a red light). He played an Elnoyle literally almost every time I played him (I played about 15 games, and think I got 12 Elnoyles). However, he did stop playing them after awhile, so I don't know if I was just just getting super lucky or what, but yeah.
Gatekeeper is one of few players in the Balamb Garden that has level 5 cards (As well as the girl in the library, cafeteria lady, all quisits groupies and a handful of others). But Quistis Groupie #1 (Sitting together with a friend in cafeteria) ONLY plays level 5 cards (Elnoyle is a 5-card)
It’s who I got my 10 from.
For those who don't want to sacrifice the Minotaur Card: You will have to wait a little while longer, but you can get the Adamantine as a Mug/Steal from the BGH251F2 boss at FH... Although it's on Disc 2, it's actually fairly early into it and if you are a Triple Triad maniac like me you can still keep all your rare cards!
Note that sacrificing the Minotaur card isn't permanent, as one of the Card Club will have it in Disk 4 if you do Card Mod it.
@@RoderickEtheria looking for this answer, I have sacrificed my minotaur card. glad I could get it back. thanks
Is the Minotaur card important to keep?
@@hallowfeather2412 gameplay-wise, not really... But if you want to do 100% with all triple triad cards, you can still get it back from Card Club later on (though getting rare cards from those guys is torture)
You can get it by fighting the brothers and have card mod
The greatest thing about final fantasy viii being re-released in 2019 is that I now get to hear how the rest of the world pronounces galbadia and such.
I was thinking the same thing! He pronounced it "Gal-ba-deer", whereas I've always pronounced it "Gal-bay-dee-ah". However, now that I've heard it pronounced that way, it sounds better than my way, I think!
There's so many different ways to pronounce Galbadia I've found. I used to pronounce it as "Gal-bad-ee-uh", but "Gal-bay-dee-uh" sounds better. I suppose "Gal-bad-eer" and "Gal-bad-ire" are other ways of saying it.
Esthar was another interesting one for me too. I always used to pronounce it as "Ess-thar", but on my most recent playthrough I found that "Es-star" rolls off the tongue so much better and just sounds better overall.
As a Kid I pronounced it, Gal-Bah-Dee-Uh. lol
And Balamb as Buh-Lawm.
How bout Quezacotl xD
For some reason I've been misreading it all this time as gal-ah-bee-dee-ah. I somehow put an extra A in there. I kinda like it better, I'm going to stick with that lmfao
Collected some of the strongest magics for junctioning, got squalls ultimate weapon, got some of the best cards... Okay now I can progress past disc one xD
Dr .k in the infirmary in Balamb plays nearly every rare card you could need including elnoyle and abyss worm behemoth much more
Good to know, that'll help. Thank you.
There is also the two girls in the classroom fyi
Monster cards aren’t rare
Wow I just realized that the cursor in the menu is a gunblade.
I got most of the cards needed from the two quistis trepies in the cafeteria. They aren't the most consistent but they do have almost all the cards you need for all the weapons. I have a video on my channel with everyone but Irvine's last weapon on disc 1
I managed to get Elnoyle cards from the Quistis groupie guy (The one in the back in the canteen), Dr Kadowaki in the infirmary, the gatekeeper (When you go through the barriers) and also a random guy who is sometimes to the left of the screen after going through the barrier.
I had Lionheart in Deling City. The actual Lionheart limit didn't pop often, but because I had Tornado junctioned to strength on Squall I was dishing out a lot of punishment :)
The Elnoyle card shows up more often with the MiniMog in your hand playing with Cid, the guy in the back in the cafeteria and the two girls in the classroom, I have Diablos and had a hell of a time with him in my hand trying to get players to play Elnoyle. You can get the MiniMog card from the little boy in the blue shirt running downstairs from the elevator around the directory.
works confirmed
MVP Tip! 2h and I got em =) thx
The only version I ever played was the original psx version. I wonder of this works on that one? That is only out of curiosity as I don't care to get Lionheart of Energy Crystals early anymore like I used to. I first got Lionheart on disk 1 back in 2003.
-Dragon Fang from T-Rexaurs
-Admantine from Admantoise outside of Dollet on the beach
-Play triple and get 20 Elnoyles (fairly common card; stick to playing anyone who you find has one) -> refine (Card Mod from Quezacotl) to energy crystals (10 cards = 1 energy crystal) -> refine 2 energy crystals (Ammo-RF from Ifrit) into 20 Pulse Ammo
You now have all ingredients for the LionHeart on Disk One
Always found theses earlier Final Fantasy games so relaxing. Never got the Lionheart on disc1 myself, just never felt right getting it so early on in the game! Keep the Final Fantasy content coming FuzzfingerGaming.
Lol, I love how there's all of these videos focusing on getting Squall's Lionheart early because it helps you have a chance of a finisher that deals more damage...meanwhile good ol' Zell can always deal out good damage, no weapon upgrade needed, and in a more interactive way than just tapping R1 imo
Hate Zell, never use him
Zells breaks do a ton of damage, but they are pretty boring and take forever.
@@TheSirSpence all the characters are annoying asf tbh
@@bettywhite2694 they are not the best ff characters but not all of them are annoying
How does he break alot of damage though? How can i make him stronger?
I noticed I've been getting some Elynole cards from the guy at the Reception gate over at Balamb Garden. He plays some decent cards as well.
Found it easier to grind for adamantine from the beach around dollet.
To anyone who missed the chance to farm elnoyle cards in balamb garden there’s still hope!!!! You can still farm it from galbadia garden just go the corridor with stairs on the right sometimes empty others will spawn three dudes exercising, there will be a kid coming down from the stairs( if you don’t see him just walk in and out of the corridor) he will drop it for you not as much as the cafeteria dude in balamb but you can still do it... I got mine today
I found that cid gives u the card way more frequently I got them in an hour
Playing the remastered version. I’ve never gotten further than just after the Timber mission before, and never really gave Triple Triad even a glance. So this the first time actually sitting down playing Trip. Tri. using the Refinement(I had no idea Trip. Tri. had any sort of relevance to the mechanics of the game. Boys points for making Draw a waste of time) and using the Junction system efficiently. It ridiculous how power you can become so early on but it takes a crap ton of work, time, and luck. Every minute doing it, although it doesn’t seem like it when you’re doing it, is absolutely worth it.
Just need the last component for the LionHeart, and I’m fucking excited! Thanks for the help along the way. 👍
I remember doing this my first and only time and it was worth it. I actually enjoy the card game more than the real battles but seeing Squall with a Lionheart during the beginning of the game is just so badass
minor other recommendations are to keep squall and everyone else besides sefier at min level. You can do this simply by being on the dollet mission kill the other 2 members and level sefier to huge level pretty simple considering u can both draw cures from enemies and get potions so no worries about healing and free amount. Always keep cocobo world open if playing on steam just turn off event wait and let it run. You may also wanna keep a +1 or extra card then whats needed if you wanna be sure your going for all cards. Awesome video tho and is a huge help. Thanks.
Just got it in Disc 2. Holy shit, what a grind. Thanks for the vid 😊
Btw for anyone viewing this comment and attempting this method: a better way to get Elnoyle cards is to play the guy sitting in the back of the cafeteria inside Balamb Garden. He plays that card a lot more than Zell’s mom in my experience.
I just wanna add that I was about level 64 with Squall when I got to this point and realized it really doesnt drop, so I switch Rinoa and Quistis in the party, they're both Lvl 17 and started doing the card strat. I got 35 Grendels before I got 4 Dragon Fangs... LOL. Thanks for the info.
I mustn't do this as the game's already too easy...but....It's LIONHEART, the best limit break ever.
Selphie the end is also good XD
Zells limit break duel abuse together with meltdown or doomtrain cast on foe,will deal more damage then lionheart.
omega will be gone in about 2 minutes....
But of course lionheart looks way cooler.
Trepie fan #1 in the cafe was where I got about 20 Enoyle cards. He doesn’t play it every round but he played it often enough (in my particular playthrough).
He ONLY plays level 5 cards (Elnoyle is level 5 card) so he is the one who you are most likely to win them from fastest.
Remembering only from way back in the original FFVIII and don't know about any changes to the Remaster, but back then the biggest bonus for getting the Lionheart is that if you *don't* get any of the weapons *between* Revolver and Lionheart, you won't have to deal with any of the Limit Breaks from them as part of your RNG. As a result, you end up procc'ing the LH limit quite a bit more often.
And Zell's mom was always one of my favorite options for early game TT binges, though there are other NPCs mentioned in other comments.
T Rexaurs in the training center will drop 6 or 7 dragon fangs sometimes and the doctor in the infirmary has elnoyle cards that come up quite often.
only if your average level is 20-29 will they drop d fangs. Just fyi.
You can get all the cards you need for the energy crystals as soon as you can play they back guy in the cafeteria. I got all twenty inside a half hour. It's actually the first requirement you can meet.
To save grinding time I wait till just after brothers on disc two. You get 5 free ammo in FH. Half the card farming is huge
Quite a few people drop elnoyle cards. I got them from zells mom, a dude in the library first screen, doctor in the infirmary, and the back quistis groupie in the cafeteria. It's nice battling different people, I feel like you get different cards to mod as well.
If anyone misses this on disc 1 or needs to get energy crystals for rinoa or quistis, there is a guy at the beginning of disc 3 in garden who is on the first floor on the right side sitting on a bench near where zell is standing. He uses elynole cards a lot and drops more of those vs. zells mom. If you don’t see him on the bench, just keep leaving and re entering the area until he populates. I earned a lot of those really quick for rinoas ultimate weapon.
You can get dragon fangs off those grendal with the mug ability from diaoblos
Hey super late here! But I’ve found by FAR the best card player to grind for these cards etc is CID himself! Just after the timber mission is briefed to you and he’s in his office. I was able to get like 50 of these and enough ruby dragons for 100 flare in around 7 hours. That’s a lot of time, but with all rule and literally only playing one player he’s really good for thus! He has abyss worms too if you’re in for tornado.
The guy at the table in the back (vs guy talk to in front of cafeteria) has it a lot too. I saw your video too late but I managed to do everything but this card. So hopefully being on disc 2 I can do it. Got everything else. Thank you for the video!
The one that has the Quistis card, he has a lot of Elnoyle cards, plays them very often
Bro I needed to get through ffviii quickly because I'm a grown-ass man with responsibilities and not a whole lot of time, so your videos helped a great deal. Subscribing for sure (also for anticipation of your ffvii remake videos) - keep up the excellent work!
I did this on the ps1 back in the day. My disc was scratched on disc one right where you fall asleep and Laguna takes over. So I never got to the other side of that forest. I had the punishment or punisher when I finally rented the game to get passed. Then on the other side of the forest is the adamanstoise for the last piece I needed to make the lionheart.
Thank you so much. Just got my Lionheart on disk 1 following your guide. Keep up the good work 😀
I dunno how more efficient this is but I seem to get more elnoyle cards from the head teacher in the school, also the best way to get most of the other cards you need early game
Actually you can get most characters' ultimate weapon before the end of disc one except Irvine's because it requires Moon Stone. Quistis's and Rinoa's will have you grind for loads Elnoyle Cards because they require Energy Crystal.
I hope I'm off tomorrow because I have to work tonight. ☹
A much easier way to get pulse ammo is to fight the belhelmel, they drop laser cannons which u can refine into pulse ammo! Much easier that playing cards, u can find them outside the garden by the forest where u get the dragon fangs. That's who I got my lionheart disc 1:)
According to the Bestiary. Belhemel only drops this on a 12/256 chance at level 30+. This only works for people happy to lvl up early.
Speaking of the Elnoyle card it has been my experience that the guy that gives you Quintus has the highest drop rate on the original playstation disks, but in the Steam version I got them just as much from the doctor and Cid, I also noticed the first dude stops having them (usually around the time he tries to switch from all to one) then you won't see it again for a very long time (even going to the doc and winning them there for a bit doesn't help) at that time he also stops having the Biggs and Wedge card also, and has mainly junk cards. Also when playing Cid with any trade rule (except one) after 1 to 3 games he will swap to the one rule and you have to go to the queen to get which ever rule you where using back (it leaves the garden entirely from that) even if you don't play the hand in which one pops up, this seems to be only with the steam version or someone would have mentioned it about the remaster. So all in all to get those cards I hit the first dude till he freezes out the card, hit the doc then either save and shut down for a bit or if the one rule pops up fix that and hit Zell's mom for a bit then return to the garden, in all it took near 8 hours to get 21 cards (the 20 needed and 1 to keep) and it took that time mainly from having to rotate who you hit and to run back to the queen to reset the rule from one.
T-rexuar drops dragon fang over level 30, if your over level 30 before lunatic pandora dream sequence you can steal energy crystal off the pipe monster and also you can get adamantite off the turtles next to dollet ;) that will save your cards
It's actually Laser Cannons you can mug from the 30+ Elastoids in the Lunatic Pandora Laguna dream on Disc 1, not Energy Crystals, but they still refine into Pulse Ammo as well (5). I never knew this before reading your comment.
@@SoaralotMusic that's it lol sorry for the misinformation...
Yep, this was my go to strategy. But I remember being cautious with t-rex because I needed its star fragments for Selphie's best weapon before it leveled too high.
Been playing against Dr. Kadowaki early game in Balamb Infirmary. She almost always carries the Elnoyle card with her.
How early though?
you can also get selphie/quistis/squall to level 30. and do that forest dream sequeence. encounter the level 30+ elastoid and its 100% chance of a laser cannon with ammo-rf into 5 pulse ammo. saves the card method and a lot of time
@Ze TheGame except that she can one shot ultima weapon
just start training with t rex after getting siren and you be lvling like crazy but make sure your attk deals over at least 1.5k dmg and stock up on cures and have sleep 100%
If I remember right. There's another way to get pulse ammo. You can turn 1 power generator into 20 pulse ammo. You get it from Blitz on the centra continent. Using mug and level up will improve the odds of getting one.
I like how strong I can get just from playing the card game, although it is tedious the reward for it is kinda worth imo
Got my Dragon Fangs from fighting T-Rexaur. Got my Adamantine from fighting Adamantoise. Got my Pulse Ammo by fighting Belhelmel for 4 Laser Cannons. Ammo refining 3 into 15 Pulse Ammo and giving the 4th to Quistis for her Homing Laser ability.
As you may have guessed, this is all because i'm playing a high-level run of the game. So I didn't need to play cards to obtain the upgrade materials for Lionheart and still got it on disc 1. Right before going into the Tomb of the Unknown King, infact.
But I can tell you right now...getting Belhelmel to drop those 4 Laser Cannons...worst part of the entire experience. That stupid monster was dropping one cannon per what felt like every 40-50 fights. So i'm sure it took around 150 encounters with the same one monster to obtain just 4 of the same one item. That was insanely boring/tedious lol.
its easier to get mug before going to timber and then mugging elastiods in the secong laguna dream
@@Lindormking89 True dat. However, I wasn't using a guide when playing the game until late into disc 1. And by the time I found out how to get Lionheart on disc 1, I had already passed the 2nd Dream Sequence. Forcing me to do it the "fight a bunch of monsters until they drop what I need" way.
Granted, it all worked out in the end. Got it on disc 1 right before going into the Tomb of the Unknown King. And despite popular belief, it took me absolutely no Triple Triad playing or card refining to obtain it. Just doing it the classic "fight monsters and obtain rewards" way.
@@crawlingkhaos8970 how were you able to fight adamantoise that early in the game? I usually refine minotaurs card the way to dollets usually blocked isnt it?
@@Lindormking89 There's an area near Dollet called Hasberry Beach. That's where I fought them. There's another area you can fight them as well called Long Horn Island, but that area cannot be reached until disc 2.
@@crawlingkhaos8970 i thought hasberry was blocked off
If you never acquire Squall's other weapons, am I right in saying that the game never has the other limit finishers they provide to randomly choose from? Having just the revolver (which is mandatory of course) and the Lionheart would give you the best possible chance of seeing that finisher most frequently?
Yes that is correct
I sweart that Old Man Admissiongate at Balamb Garden plays Elnoyles WAYYYYY more frequently than Zell's mom.
The pulse amo can be dropped by Elastoids enemy, i have beaten this game without cheats by my self exploring
i am playing this game for the first time. What i learned from my first playthrough. Use Quistis limit break Degenerator to kill nearly every monster and if that does not work use Squall Renzokuken and Irvine AP shot
I did it by playing the guy that gives us the Quistis card in the Garden's cafeteria ("the guy in the back") because in addition to getting Elnoyle cards, the duels count towards the required number to start the Card Club quest and he also plays a lot of Malboro cards which I can Card Mod into Malboro tenticles for Quistis' ultimate weapon.
Getting the admantine is the trickiest part, as triple triad enthusiasts (like myself) don't like sacrificing the Minotaur card and the only other way to get it is to fight Admantoise which will almost certainly result in your characters levelling up :(
WOW! Got the Lionheart on disc 1 for the first time in over 20 years! I’ve only played the original game when it came out on PS1 & replayed it regularly until about the mid noughties when the then PS2 stopped, for some reason, being able to load from the 4 PS1 discs & haven’t played it in 15+ years! Was disappointed when the other FFI to IX came out on iOS that FFVIII was missing! Did periodically check if it would come out every year or so & then, kind of forgot about it so, only checked again in May 2022 & it had been out for about a year! Beenplaying it as I remembered in my usual long grinding, high level way & finished it in about 4 weeks! Now, for the first time ever I’m trying out a low level game & it’s a completely new way of playing for me & found it hard at first to get my head around it: never played much cards & once I noticed that carding gives no EXP I never used it! Low level play has been a challenge for me but, been able to get Squall’s, Rinoa’s, & Selphie’s ultimate weapons at Deling City before the end of disc 1! Could have gotten Quistis’ too if I’d been willing to pplay cards for another 20 Elnoyle, I call them E-nnoy, cards! But, had to replay over 6 & hours of play including card playing because the first time I couldn’t get Ammo-RF as Ifrit was only level 2 before Irvine was about to join the party! NEVER noticed before or knew that GF’s had to be at certain levels for certain abilities to be available to learn! Even posted on another of your videos briefly before I deleted it once I knew what the problem but, had already contacted the official website’s support via email about missing GF abikities! I just never noticed before because of my high levels that naturally levelled up the GF’s too! It’s a whole new challenge to learn how much much & how to inflict the right amount of damage to card enemies & use Seifer, haven’t gotten to Edea yet during this low level game, to level up the GF’s! It’s goes against over 20 years of the way I played, while not playing for all those 20+ years it WAS the only way I knew how play! Now I’m getting so much more stuff earlier on in the game that I just didn’t think was possible before! Thanks very much for these videos showing je a new way to play! :)
I remember figuring out how to get Lionheart on Disk One all the way back in 2003 when I was 15.5 years old!! Good memories.
Also, geezo I was expecting to see VeghEsther in the comments section here.
He does have a YT account and he has posted on some of his pet topics
Between how enemies increase with your levels, how strong you can get the GFs, how OP you can get party stats, and the fact that you can get some 2nd best, even ULTIMATE weapons so very early....
It's like they want you to just avoid level grinding....
what?!?! a game that focuses on story instead of grinding constantly for hours to fill the time?!?!?! it's like this game wasn't made in this day and age ;)
Really it's the same thing but the game rewards you for avoiding EXP specifically. You want to get stronger you'll still eventually have to grind battles but turning enemies into Cards and gaining only AP instead on it's own will easily imbalance the game in your favor. That goes for everything else. There is still a grind but it's just not specific to watching those little numbers go up. (Which every level up is only 1000 EXP, only mentioning that if no one was aware. It takes no time to hit max level)
In the Remastered version for PC (Steam) I was able to get a good amount of Elnoyle cards from the gatekeeper at Balamb Garden.
This is a good low level guide but if your goal is early lionheart then you can get JUST after you leave timber. You can get dragon fangs before leaving balamb by fighting T-rexs as it's a higher level drop so just farm a bit and boom you're good. Then when you leave timber run up to(or take the train to) dollet and the beach across from dolley has adamantoise which stop adamantite. This way you can get lionheart before the dream sequence after timber!
If you can't get the items you need or are too high a level at certain points you can always use Lv up & Lv down abilities.
i put so many hours into this game growing up and i was almost positive that you could bring about the lionheart finisher rather than it be a random finisher with 5 or 6 quick r1's after the last "trigger" prompt.
I just got it without playing triple triad by Deling City! Took me about 4hrs. Sweet guide nonetheless
I remembered grinding on this game back in the day.
This remake is a pain, especially as I had forgotten how much of a grind the card game could be just to junction abilities.
was way less time consuming mugging elastoids for laser cannons. (Lagunas dream)
it is a rare steal but i got 5 in like 45 mins.
Mined all my elnoyles from the quistis groupies by the cafetaria. Seems to use them every second game
There is also a junk shop in Balamb right before the screen where you find the queen of cards
You could get the Lionheart on disk one in the original game! You just have to make sure to get certain items (I think the Pulse ammo) in one of the Laguna flashbacks. I can't specifically remember what to do as I have not actually done it in over 20 years.
If I recall correctly, you don't even have to play the card game to do it.
I don't usually worry about getting the ultimate weapons in games like this though because it's always such a hassle!
Edit: OK I actually looked it up. You have to mug the Elastoids in the second Laguna Flashback for Lesser Cannons and then Ammo-RF those into Pulse Ammo. I know this could be done in the original game because I did it on my original Play Station with the original game disks back in 1999.
If you wanna keep your cards just head to the beach near Dollet and farm the Adamantoises til you get one lol
But that is in disc 2 when you can use the garden and this is in disc one
@@grabygrabielagrabielyta1029 no you can get there right after the timber mission just keep taking the train til the end of the tracks. Ive gotten lionheart on disc 1 so id know lmao
I pretty much had to level up early on this one, mainly because I was unwilling to sacrifice a card I needed for playing card games for Adamantine. Turns out Adamantoise (which is located in the Dollet area beach) drops this item the most consistently from Lvl 30 onwards (you only need 3 for Ultimate Weapons anyway). I made sure to get 4x Dragon Fangs from sub-30 lvl Grendels before I even attempted this.
Of course trying to get Rinoa's UW caused me to inadvertently level Squall and 2 other characters to 100 (fortunately, i already had the Lion Heart by this point).
And for the record, you can obtain 5 of the UWs as early as before Galbadia Garden in Disc 1 (though you can obtain Quistis's as early as before the Fire Cavern). The only one that cannot be obtained at all in Disc 1 (or Disc 2 for that matter) is Irvine's, and that's because one of the necessary items (Moon Stone) isn't obtainable until after obtaining the Ragnarok.
This guide is awesome dude keep it up. I never thought it was possible till I just now pulled it off lol
On the second floor outside the classroom 2 girls can spawn at the bottom of the screen. Sometimes they walk away and sometimes its a guy and a girl. Keep walking in and out until it 2 girls standing there talking. U want to play the one with her back to the screen, with the short brown hair. She plays not only elnoyle, but also snow lion, abyss worm, ruby dragon, and iron giant. Got 100 tornado and blizzaga for 2 chars, the 10 ruby dragon for quistiss limit, and the 20 elnoyle about the same time.
thanx for the guides, currently working on OP characters now!
You can have punishment before the seed exam by grinding cards.
Lol I just got it on the mobile remaster
My method for after FH, is to head to Centra ruins and recruit Tonberry before getting Pandemona (and Pandmona card from hotel owner in Balamb)
Might be a little late now but play cards with the quistis trepee in the BACK in the cafeteria the black dude. He was the only one that worked regularly for me.
dang thanks man!!! I'm happy I found your videos!!!!
With Zells mom you’ll need to leave town then come back if she stops playing elnoyle. Also in balamb if one npc stops then switch and they’ll play a few before they stop.
There is a man squatted down in the library beyond where you find occult fan I near the draw point he plays high level cards. Also the man at the gate inside the little window on your way to the front gate also plays some high level cards. These are my go to people for card farming. The man in the library isn’t the only character that can spawn there though I’m not sure why or why not etc.
thanks. cant wait til midnight tonight. gonna have fun playing this game
Oh yes, it’s gonna be fun!
It will take time, luck, and loads of triple triad, but you can get everything you need to make lionheart before going to Dollet. These NPCs will have the cards you need to get: Dr. Kadiwaki, trepe groupie in the cafeteria, the 2 trepe groupies in your homeroom on the second floor, the gatekeeper (if you want to progress some then Master Cid and Zells mom as well) Losing the minotaur card isn't that big of a loss since you can win it back later so card mod it to get lionheart and just wreck everything with Squall.
Personally, for the Elnoyle card, I always found that Trepie fan #1 (The one that's in the cafeteria) was the person that had the highest probability to play that card from my experience. That's where I always got mine on Disc 1 anyways.
Lunch lady in balamb gardens cafeteria gave me at least 4 elnoyle so far 👍
you can easily get str+60% x3 and auto haste x3 which is a bigger game breaker than that in First disc
Thanks for that pal. I found the guy obsessed with Quistis in the cafeteria plays them every few games and and often plays them in quick succession
Nice, I remember doing this waaaay back. And at the end I was briefly mistaken I had a call with the FF 7 victory fanfare :D
I remember doing this on one of my playthroughs and never used it until I was to a point where I felt it was time. didn't want to be too op lol.
i only want to say it's just not needed to sacrfice the Minotaur or u can - whaterver ( :D ). U will keep it back at disc 4 :) after land from space. There are 2 way to get card back - play Queen near to one point on the map after land or go on ragnarok and get it back.
All methods are good :)
I gonna pass it trough for 1000000 times. Thank you yo remind me this game is still working !
If you do reach lv 20 and can’t get the dragon fang from grendels, t-rexaurs drop them starting at level 20
You could also use quezacotlz level ability to get the adamantin from the turtle at the beach of dollet, a laser canon (5 pulsar) while in the lagune szenario before galbia garden and... I can't really remember the dragon fangs, but I guess I did get it from the same mobs. :P Doing it this way will reward you even earlier with your weapon.
Pro tip, please don't do it if it's your first time playing the game, get the weapon later once the items required for it becomes available again(last third of the game if i remember correctly). Don't rush it!
Getting the weapon early makes getting any other weapon for Squall worthless and unsatisfying.
And since it unlocks the strongest limit break in the game it makes any other limit break useless, and makes the game horribly easy than it already is.
You already have x3 speed, you can mindlessly level up whenever you need if you think the game got harder, without ruining the experience for yourself!
Anyway, thats just what i think, do what u gotta do ^^
Oh, and kuddos to fuzz. This video is very detailed and helpful, i dont have anything against it ^^
I was debating whether or not to do this method but after reading your comment, I've decided not to do it as this will be my first time playing the game properly from start to finish. I played the game back on the PS1 but never finished it so I've preordered the remaster so I can finally play the game all the way through. I'm going to take my time and enjoy it, thank you for the video fuzz! I enjoyed watching this even though I'm not going to do this method on my first playthrough.
@@craig1357 good man! I finished it twice before, the second time was the one i rushed for the weapon.
i enjoyed it at first, but it felt like cheating very fast, and it really ruined my experience, since the game is already easy once you learn how to junction properly.
Thats why i feel that new players should just savour the game as it normally progresses, because it really is a one of a kind experience!
@@madmomo2488 Thank you for the reply :) I completely get what you mean and I don't want to ruin the experience for myself by doing the same method as you did on your second playthrough. I'm thinking about doing a low-level run as I recently played FF7 and realised how easy the game is after grinding for a while. Would you recommend doing a low-level playthrough or should I just play the game normally and level up whilst progressing the game?
@@craig1357 generally, i think low-level run is a good idea to enjoy the game's mechanics, If you don't mind that sort of handicap.
But personally i never did it, and my guess it may bother you, if you end up having to "card" monsters after every battle, so that you can get AP to learn GF abilities while not earning any exp at the same time ( i kinda remember there was a method like that). Or by cutting all the encounters off and missing all the cool enemies.
That could turn into a chore. I would suggest just playing normally and not over leveling. maybe escape some fights and turn encounters off here and there if you wanna stay under leveled. And you should have the full experience in either ways!
Good Technique for Elnoyle's is to run back and forth from battling Zell's mom and the drop out student crouched by the docks. Run into the hotel to save . I find that once you get the card from one run to the other and they should have a fresh set of 4 or so battles where they will use the Elnoyle. If they don't use it after so many, run out of town and come back in.
i dont need this weapon earlier, i just wanna keep the char level as low as possible and start levelling when the stats bonus learned by GF, and make every single stats on char 255 when they reach lvl90 above. hunting dragon fang will make the char level very high
Hello CID is known for playing those 20x card I had 1-2 hours better then Zell house