I love this brother. Superior intellectual. Not only is he educationally intellectual but he's inclined in his interpersonal skills. He knows how to respectfully engage without demoralizing his opposition. If you don't know this brother take an hour out of your day to study him. God bless you Brother West
@@tyrellanderson4722 I agree. I must say she surprised me by having this dialog with him. One thing I can say about Candace she's not afraid to debate anyone whether she's right or wrong. She's very intelligent. She's just compromised so she caters to her base. She's not going to give up her acceptance of her base by admitting she says absurdities
Candace literally said "i've never urged anyone to leave the democratic party" a few moments later "I started the black exit from the democrat party...." The patience and restraint Dr. West shows is beyond extraordinary.
More proof that people like Candace aren’t interested in having a real dialogue to find solutions for Americans but here spout whatever rhetoric will get her a big pay check
@@margaretsanger975like the commenter said she lied then soon after told on herself that she lied. Nothing “bAsEd” about that. She couldn’t name one conservative policy that’s beneficial
@Ytd69257 The lust for domination is a Biblical statement & warning made to God fearing, scripture reading sons and daughters of men as testimony to the imperfect state of ALL mankind. AMP Ecclesiastes 8:9 "All this I have seen while applying my mind to every deed that is done under the sun. There is a time in which one man has exercised power over others to their detriment." DOMINATION! These were members of the Jewish nation who attended the temple services, not atheists -AMP Ecclesiastes 8:10 "So then, I have seen the wicked buried, those who used to go in and out of the holy place [but did not thereby escape their doom], and they are [praised in spite of their evil and] soon forgotten in the city where they did such things. This too is futility (vanity, emptiness).
Don’t atheists say they are spiritual but not religious?. Atheists are equally lustful of non-god spiritualism like the god believers. Is it Domination virtue of all humans? Both groups are equally lustful either or other way. At the least love or submissive to god makes it one less lustful imo.
Pay close attention to how Dr. West controls the conversation. No yelling, no overtaking, no belittling, no insults. Just a good intellectual conversation.!
I didn't see Dr. West "Controlling" the conversation. I saw him faltering on almost all points and was too busy trying to be agreeable with Candace. Dr. West is not able to push back on false and dishonest statements by those two. Very disappointing to watch.
As I look thru this thread with much recent comments! What bought us here? Mind you, I like Candace Owens but I don’t like how they talk over west! They both have good points
@@brianmeen2158 “good points” - still a difference between talking points and thinking points It was like she was trying to get sound bits in Like what she said about the Klan and democrats Racists Democrats were white southerners - the Grandparents and great grandparents of todays SOUTHERN REPUBLICANS BULL CONNER STRUM THURMOND SOUTHERN RACIST DEMOCRATS People did not RELOCATED to NY and become todays uppity NY democrats. And NYers did not move to Georgia. Talking points VS Thinking points
@@brianmeen2158 Not emotional when you can clearly hear Candice speaks with emotions and not facts. Dr. West will admit, when he doesn't know something. Candice just keeps going, and changes topic.
I understand your point, but it doesn't take any effort to "hold it together" on Wests' part with individuals like Owens and Flyer who are willing to listen to and have respect for their "opponents". This is not the typical situation where the host is a disrespectful, liberal individual who doesn't want to debate facts and address reality. In other words, the stage is set here to have a legitimate debate and discussion, something that is rare to see these days if all you watch and adhere to is your politics of modern liberalism.
Patience doesn't make you right at all. Dr. Cornel West is an imbecile pseudo-intellectual. Being patient is what should be done in argument always but you don't give people credit for something that should be done. Therefore I wouldn't watch it if they were whining at each other even the point of this video is to gain insight and it's obvious that he is extremely biased and will not be willing to admit that he's wrong and I just don't see his appeal.
@@washingtonlion1915 I saw the hearing that Candace referenced and she sure wasn't about debating and listening then. It was all a set-up by republicans because she wasn't an expert and nobody called on her from the right or left so at the end, she could complain about democrats.
Funny how Candace claims to have WORKED HARD for everything she has, when she got her wealthy start from the naacp suing white people for calling her names. What a charlatan
I have followed Mr. West all of my life. He sure was patient or...he intentionally dummies down so as to have a gentle conversation. I continue to admire his work.
If pay attention closely he comes to a point where he realizes she’s just a robot spewing the same speech she says every debate. I’ve never heard anything different from her
Dr. Cornel West completely owned the conversation! He made excellent points and he proved evidence for his point. That’s why I love the brilliance of Dr. West.
i can’t believe it’s 2 against one and his arguments are still more logical and respectful. i hate how they talk over him because they can’t handle anything he has to say.
I agree and feel the same way with every token rhino I've ever seen on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC. They really only let a republican on if they will bad mouth Trump or the Party. Its used to be John McCain for years. My favorite is when the 3 lefties gang up on the token republican on Meet the press panel. The person usually isn't even a real republican and they still beat them up.
Education and a bit of lived life coupled with the ability to say I'm not with either of the 2 parties because the lesser of two evils is not a good choice....Yeah, they weren't ready for his level of kung-fu. (I made it 29 minutes before I had to bail on her and the "bartender" guy making up hollow talking points, but I tried....smh)
Reminds me of Mathew 7:6 casting your pearls before swine. They were not interested in listening to him at all. They just wanted to own him as they like to say. The casual disrespect for "Black's people to apparently we are pets...🤷🤦😜
I wish he would open his true eyes and see that he is talking with 2 facist. They always say the kkk was the democratic party but they pretend that all the yt nationalist are part of the Republican party. There are some still parte of the democrat party but the hard nose yt nationalist are Republican. Candice has bought her a yt nationalist husband so she has no choice but to lack the books and the wand of the yt racist. Because she was a tramp that false accused so.eone of raping her she now want to portray her evil heart onto all women when it is statically known 7 out of every 10 women assaulted go un reporte and even more of those raped go unprosecuted. The girl is a total self hating narcissit. How do you know when she is lying, deceiving, denying truth and deflecting? Her mouth is moving. Brainwashed, Stockholm Syndrome, Manual Manumission participant, Non thinking house slave, a real empty brain, asinine, Narrow anal Repetative. Blinder than a rock.
It's also disrespectful of the host, it's Dr. CORNELL West! She's not that smart, her arguments are weak and unsubstantiated. She projects alot! I respect her right to speak her mind, but this seems like an ambush, except he smarter than the 2 of them. I suspect its like trapping a lion in the bed you sleeping in. Hah
If you have an hour with Cornell West and you can’t stop talking, there is something seriously wrong with you. Recognize brilliance and learn from it. Learning does not mean agreeing with everything he says, but it does mean shutting up long enough for him to say it.
He's lucky she didn't point out the obvious: "No woman wants a man she's not married to invading her personal space like this." He should have sat back and let her talk rather than practically bumping her chin when he nods his head.
Thank you! They just kept talking over him and switching the topic as soon as he started making a point. It is their loss because it could have been an exchange of ideas, not a one-sided barrage.
@@Black_unity597 I get your point, unfortunately I couldn’t find the black hand emoji. But thanks for pointing that out just in case I didn’t notice. I’m sure most got my point rather than focus on the color of a cartoon hand and suggest or project things. Thanks for your time…
Bless his heart, he has so many busted fundamentals and faulty conclusions that were concocted by dead, godless white males, that it's sad. He'll likely never question them though. Godlessness is a beast on both sides of this dialogue.
Candice's ability to gishgallop is amazing. She starts to lose one point so she switches to another to avoid the discussion. Nothing ever gets resolved because she avoids ever making a conclusion.
Isn’t that the entire spiel of people like Candace? If she were truly into resolutions she wouldn’t be in the position she is today. She is a demagogue, that’s it.
Cornell I have the deepest respect for you and I'm not even a left8st or conservative. I am black but you're very likable and real and you know how to deal with people. You also don't sell out while maintaining composure. It's HARD not to lose it listening to Candace. Salute sir
Did anyone else notice whenever Candice at the host were hit with an undeniable fact they diminished it and said it doesn’t happen a lot? But when they made a point they made it seem like it was common place and happening every moment of every day. They had nothing but talking points and bad faith arguments.
Facts. Simply fascinating when Candance and the host argued with Dr. West about the legitimacy of the KKK FBI reporting😯 Candance and the host's talking points were biased, bigoted, and illogical. While the interview is conducted in a professional and civil manner, they are unmatched for Dr. West’s intellect, wit, and compassion are quite evident.
This the same chick that made a decent bag from a racist incident in school, but talks as if when other black people bring things up they're "overreacting".
No, at 15:10 she says "I don't tell people that - they can go anywhere and hear me speak, . . . there is nowhere where I tell people that they should abandon the D Party and go to the R Party." I think technically that's true - she tells people that they should abandon the D Party, but doesn't tell them that they should go to the R Party. She supported Trump, but I think she wanted people to be Trump-supporting Independents. She says, "what I advocate for is independence." She's registered Independent, isn't she?
Dr. West is an internationally respected man for a good reason. He is without question the most erudite and respectful person living today. I don't think there's anyone on earth that couldn't have an honest and genuine conversation with him.
Wow. His talking points are Bernie-like. With "body Language". He wants equality without responsibility. In Europe we have a lot of lefty-universaty blah blah in governments.
@@jasfan8247 I never said I agreed with the man lol. But there's a difference when your opponent comes at you with gotcha points and one who actually listens and pushes back with an alternative idea. But yeah like all leftists....freedom and equality without responsibility is their whole game.
@@derkguez8590It's clear that Candi just goes for her Trump points but the Dr/ Rev is so caring he even admits that he is a Bernie-preacher. And slow when the police comes haha.
This man is so full of love, he´s fully without ego and genuinely wants to help people. He´s a spiritual and political leader - and the president the US and the world deserves/desperately needs.
My eyes rolled back so hard when mentioning the clan she just HAD to bring up old and dead democrats that don’t represent what the party is now while the Republicans have gotten far more bolder in their racism, I hate both parties but it’s telling when someone is just a mouthpiece for a a party that isn’t even for you.
Great... now do the bit about how the abuses and prejudices of the 18th and 19th century don't characterize modern America...I won't hold my breath for you to condemn white privilege.
@@keithspeller5620 Strom Thurmond is probably on her Mt Rushmore....or better yet, Stone Mountain. Him changing parties is probably noted in the textbooks they want banned. lol
What many of them fail to mention is that those people who would have identified themselves as democrats during the Jim Crow era are now under the label of Republicans, or shall I say, Trumplicans.
that’s what conservatives do, it’s just a bunch of talking points after another and if they can’t respond they shift the goal post to fit another talking point within it
Candace doing all that fast ass talking 🤦🏾♂️ she need to learn how to listen some. Also, Cornell is too experienced as a black man in America to be talking to these “kids” about black issues 😅 he really lived that life
Agreed!!! For a minute or two, you can see in Dr. West’s face, that he just was not sure how to deal with those two individuals. At one point, he just had to stop talking and sip his beverage.
Cornel is the only one that can have a well rounded conversation. Candace on the otber hand can't see past her self hate enough to move past her anti-black talking points.
Candice has honed her talking point to argue with liberals, she doesn't really know how to deal with leftists. The points where she looked like a deer in the headlights were classic. 2 on 1 and it was civil, if you thought that was surprising, you don't know much about West.
Most far right personalities, and just everyday far right people who like arguing, are like this. They will always argue points with me as though I believe in liberalism, support the Democratic Party and believe in the words of Democratic leadership and talking heads. In fact, I can't remember ever _not_ being approached like this. They really do think "leftism" and "liberalism" are the same thing, which is how you get such people calling very blatant neoliberals "communists" with a straight face. They don't know and aren't interested. Fascism obviously isn't about being knowledgeable. It amused me how defensive these personalities are about that word though when they aren't even being accused; "Fascists? Who? Where? Definitely not me! No fascists here!- Oh! Sure, globally. ...But not here."
@@Meladjusted Yeah, it's always hilarious that they keep arguing that fascists and such don't exist. It's _pretty dang suspicious,_ haha. Also, trying to tell Dr. West, who has been targeted by all kinds of these groups - including the one that McInnes founded - that the groups don't exist is hilarious.
@@Meladjusted Yeah, it's always hilarious that they keep arguing that fascists and such don't exist. It's _pretty dang suspicious,_ haha. Also, trying to tell Dr. West, who has been targeted by all kinds of these groups - including the one that McInnes founded - that the groups don't exist is hilarious.
I believe when they talk about black on black crime, it mainly occurs as a survival mode due to the trickle down effect of inequities sustained from systemic racism. Its deeper than what people are willing to discuss.
There’s also no such thing as “black on black” crime. Black on black crimes insinuates that black people kill each other for being black when that is not the case. It is proximity crime. People use “white on black” crime because a lot of white on black crime is based on racism.
So true. I think you can correlate poverty and crime. The powers that be know this, but to address that you have to be honest about wealth and inequality
Thank you! It is a trckled down effect of inequalities sustained from systemic racism..well said indeed! I was hoping Dr. West would speak on the intricacies of the how what's known as 'black on black' crime was not only created through these systems and conditions, but also how they are allowed to perpetuate. And, research shows that violent crimes are usually perpetuated by those of the same 'race', but there is no mention of 'white on white' crime. It's a situation of proximity. Where there's poverty, crime is likely to exist, and since there is an overwhelming abundance of impoverished people of color, particularly Blacks, Latinx, and Indigenous due to systemic racism and ongoing institutions that affect the wealth of those groups, then crimes in those impoverished areas run rampant. What I see overlooked or simply not discussed when it comes to violent crimes is socioeconomics.
Yes and most crimes are committed within your own community all races. Whites are mostly likely killed by their own race as well but they don’t talk about that
He’s better than me. Every now and then he gets a look of disgust on his face that I can relate to. Like. Ugh is this chic for real? But instead of telling her off he collects himself and patiently attempts to find the common ground and understanding.
Damn. They were able to steer the conversation away from the military industrial complex so fast. This is an illuminating example of how effective the culture war topics are at distracting us from the real problems. They spent so much time talking about gender and about 2 seconds talking about military spending.
Yep, the moment Dr. Cornell West started taking about the military industrial complex. The right wing host steps in with his reactionary transphobic talking points to steer away from that conversation.
This is such an underrated comment. I was instantly shocked at how they immediately switched the conversation right when the topic was shedding light on the top’s corruption.
It’s like having a conversation with 2 ppl that sit in the house by themselves and have no friends. The man is telling them he was there. And they still have an opinion
I hate how Candace and the other dude keep switching topics any time Dr. West is in the middle of explaining something. They don’t let him finish because they know he’s going to prove them wrong
She doesn't care about the actual content she's speaking about, only her talking points and being "right" and outdoing people with her fast-talking nonsense that contradicts itself constantly.
26:00 "no one is demonizing trans people" two seconds later "they die cause they're drug addicts and are caught up with gangs" ... pretty much sums up how this conversation went
How can someone like Candance Owen speak for anyone, when her knowledge of social economics, humanity, Maslow's hierarchy, and common sense, is not prevalent in her understanding? It looks as if she talks to be heard
why is the host so combative ? he really takes away from the conversation by dog pilling on whatever candace says. anyways dr. west just brought so much eloquence to this show. love him!
It also feels like anytime Candace sways to the leftist side he is there to remind her to side with whiteness. I'd be interested in watching them talk about racism and Black America without him looming over.
Maybe you were the ones that were able to play stupid about Charlottesville. We saw the tiki torches and people driving cars into protesters. The bottom feeders in this country are always trying to rewrite events to justify the fancy land they have chosen to live in.
24 minute mark...Candace is wrapping up her argument and West drops a non-partisan truth bomb. She's so rattled she goes to Gavin for help "we talked off camera" and he helps her by re-directing the conversation "But the trans thing!" C'mon, Proud Boy. At least pretend the whole interview wasn't an attempt at a trap...
@@kylorenkardashian79 What's the penalty for being on the wrong side of the trans debate? Or the reward for being on the right side if you would rather expound on that option.
As an American who recently immigrated to Mexico, the level of negative propaganda spread by the right is overwhelming. Every person I’ve met is kind, helpful and safe. In fact, I feel safer here than in the US.
when they said most Mexicans that come in are criminals, it really irked me as my city is full of mexicans and non of them are criminals, just people trying to work to have a better life
👇Bad faith👇 15:17 C.O. *"You can go anywhere and hear me speak, I never tell anybody to leave the Democrat Party..."* _One minute and 11 seconds later_ 16:28 G.M. *"Can you, maybe, explain what **_"blexit"_** is?"* C.O. *"Yeah, i mean...So I started the **_"black exit"_** from the Democrat Party."* ☝️ Gavin McGinnis hilarious for this one!😅 😃He set her up.😂 She was going to get away with it and just not talk about blexit.🤣 She just tries to play it off.😭 And it works! She even interrupted Dr West to tell her lie 🤥and he acted as if nothing happened😀 when she told on herself.💀 That gave me serious debate bro blue balls.😱
The bartender (idk his name) totally ruined this conversation. Watching from a left perspective, I was impressed with Candice and her authenticity, she seemed to really want to engage in a good faith debate. Homie with the mustache was only there to interrupt Cornel and change the topic whenever he was about to conclude his point, he never let him finish. Very frustrating.
Videos like this really put things into perspective. Critical thought, logic and reason versus talking points meant to push an agenda. Dr. West was superb in this.
@David.Me& My45 I personally enjoyed this conversation. The host was annoying me though. He was asking questions, trying to challenge Dr. West but the questions made no sense. It seemed like he was listening to what was being said.
When you know what you know...candace keep looking for bartender to support her like she won the debate.poor girl she speaks on black on black crime.all races lay their crime in their Own vacinity.mexicsn do it white people etc...
one hundred percent. Seems he's trying to just have a mind sharing conversation while the other two have their dukes up...even in their body language and posture as he speaks you can see that they are not in absorption mode rather in a mental fighting stance. Even so he was brilliant, though I do like a lot of the things Candace says.
The willingness of dude and Candace to present a conversation about the wrongs of blacks people is exactly why we will never support the republicans…. Dr. Cornell west is a real one…he listens then reacts
Candace doesn’t even have the intellectual capacity to have a conversation with Cornel West. Cornel West is truly an independent thinker. Candace just spouts conservative, anti-liberal talking points.
that is just a nasty ad hominem argument and I tend to agree with Dr West--it is illustrative of the pathological name calling that both of them bemoaned
@@billhaywood3503 Eddye Ervin is not wrong though. Candace does not grasp the depth of the issues to the same degree that Dr West does, it's not a simple ad hominen.
@@devonogara8562 she has the intelligence to sit with someone on the opposite side and have a discussion. Something I’m sure you’re probably incapable of doing.
I love Cornel West, his way of just letting them have their talking points and their beliefs and not trying to convince or change their mind is unimaginably good! He puts a thought out there and they start raising their voices and talking over him and he just calmly lets them have it. No forcing of thought but giving strong debate. It's a Masterclass in the trading of thought while keeping it clean.
He's not there for them, is why. They are so far gone, he know this. His presence is for all the spectators who haven't yet fallen off the cliff and who can be saved from the depths of fascism.
Thanks KILLAWATTS804 for your great support for Bro. Cornel! Dr.West teaches me so much, even for my 71 years and decades of Bible teaching, both directions. Still have sharp edges from growing up on So. Side Chi. Those two are indisputably wrong. They sound so foolish. Here in rural VA now, I've read local newspaper interviews with white supremacist militia in regular training, in SW VA. Been Jan. 6 coup members who were police & sheriff's dept. arrested, that lived here also.
At -23:13 the look on Dr. Wests face when racist Mcginnes says that cops are going to jail. Lmao....sometimes I think Cornell can't believe the ignorance of these two.....
It's crazy to me that you just accept black on black crime, which is the biggest death toll for the black community year over year and it's not even close. Why focus on that? Pfffft, doesn't fit the racist narrative does it? Keep your eyes shut though....
This is the perfect example of someone who studied and equipped themselves with knowledge and wisdom, on the other hand you have someone memorizing lame talking points that shift depending on loose standards
@@TexasBrown713 You didn’t say who you were talking about specifically but I am supposing you were talking about Dr Cornell West who has been at this his whole life and Ms/Mrs Candace Owens who hasn’t been at this even nearly as long in her young life. I think they are both very intelligent but Candace seems more of an opportunist who used her sharp oratory skills to capitalize on Trump’s presidency and movement.
@@MOTIVATIONBYDAR Cornell the man. But yes Candace is a grifter looking to make money as the alt rights "Black friend". I invite you to RUclips "who is Candace Owens" by NowThisNews
These two could never come close to the humbleness and gracefulness and intellect of Dr. Cornel. He's a brilliant, beautiful soul. If we replaced all current politicians and leaders with his like, the world would be a better place.
@@FireinTheBowl I despise this Satanic witch. She loves to point out the single parent homes, poverty, and crime in the black community but she doesn't want to talk about how we got to this point. Black people were entering the middle class of American lifestyle in less than a decade out of slavery. Black children outperformed white children in school. In that same 10-year period 4000 black people were lynched or burned alive. She doesn't want to talk about the millions of affordable homes that were built in the suburbs that were underwritten by the federal government. The state's pitched in with new roads and modern Public Schools. The purpose of the plan was to stabilize American families and give them a means to develop wealth over time through home ownership. The plan worked beautifully but there was one stipulation, NO BLACK PEOPLE ALLOWED! This wasn't some communities personal preference it was the damn law nationwide. It was illegal to sell one of those homes to a black family. The freeways that were built to connect those Suburban neighborhoods to downtown were built right through black communities. Dispersing and destroying what little cohesiveness had been established by a familiarity. Black communities were scattered. Black businesses were always the backbone of the black community. Then institutions like Banks and insurance companies got together and decided to redline black communities. It didn't matter what your credit score was or Equity position the answer was "NO "and black businesses were destroyed. At the same time America was welcoming with open arms immigrants primarily from Southeast asia. The banks and insurance companies that discriminated against black people warmly welcomed the new immigrants to take over commerce in the black community. Black Welfare required that no man be in the household but these recent immigrants were subsidized as a family. Black dollars used to circulate up to 20 times in the black community now that money leaves every day at sundown. It's going to develop another ethnic group. The Asians have become one of the most successful communities in America built on black dollars. The War on Drugs was a war on black people. We were told just to say no but now that the opioid and Fentanyl crisis has struck Middle America suddenly the agenda is not to lock them up and throw away the key but drug treatment and Rehabilitation. This Satanic black witch has no idea the implications of so many black communities being wiped off the face of the map by deputized white mobs who were insulted by black success. Successful black people were routinely tortured and murdered and then put on display as a warning to other black people that success can get you killed. The effects of Jim Crow laws which were designed to undermine and Destroy black progress still have an impact on today's society in the black community. There are people alive today who remember what it was like not to be able to use a public toilet or enter through the front door of many government buildings and businesses. She's quick to tell you that more white people are killed by the police well they're 200 million more white people in this country. Yes black people do commit a disproportionate number of crimes but that was to be expected when so much effort is put into undermining and destroying black people. Both of my grandfathers were murdered and nothing done about it because they were successful black man. Are we supposed to believe that didn't have an impact on my mother and father? My mother and father never voted in their lives because they were terrified of even the prospect of registering to vote. That simple step of citizenship could easily get a black person killed maybe even the entire family killed. It's no secret even black children were dragged out of their homes and murdered because they violated some Jim Crow law. In my opinion Dr West was entirely to agreeable with this bottom feeding black witch. I would have confronted this boot Kissel with the facts of why black people are in the condition they are today. Talking about the symptoms of racism doesn't solve the problem either. The root cause has been institutional and it has been going on for Generations. Now we're supposed to play stupid like it wasn't supposed to have a deterious effect on the black community. It's only now with the widespread use of video cameras that we see first hand State sponsor terrorism. We are trusting the terrorists to police themselves. They always talk about the number of black people shot but a slick trick is to choke or beat to Death black people. No they're not shot but they are just as dead. Candice Owens outrageous slander of the black community is designed to highlight the symptoms of racism. Only a sliver of black people are actually killed by whites. You ain't got to kill somebody to destroy them. Slavery, Jim Crow laws, segregation, deputies white mobs, and second class citizenship is perpetrated by that so-called sliver of racist white nationalist who gained state and federal power. It only takes a few congressmen or senators to impact black people's lives. The 13th Amendment is a perfect example. Slavery was abolished in America except for the punishment of a crime. That was easy to overcome just create some laws just for black people. The convict leasing program was even more profitable than slavery.
@Michael Paysour I agree with a lot of what you said( besides the name calling) but your statements are heavy in ommisions. I recommend reading Thomas sowell Black Rednecks and white Liberals
@Michael Paysour and my point wasn't to debate the issues, but point out that Cornell West is confusing and scattered. What you wrote had much more clarity than listening to Dr. West for 2 hours. He is all over the place.
Dr Cornel West: "With 11 million illegal immigrants here....." Gavin: "30 million!" Dr West: "You think it's 30 million?" Gavin: "I think it's 30 million." FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS, GAVIN!
18:22. An additional note, Dr. West brings up the military industrial complex, the hypocrisy of referencing limited governments, crony capitalism (where the money goes) and the conservatives bring up transgenders lol
@Pawwel Mussial I mean, if only these people were willing to do more than pretend the system needs to be broken and take steps to improve its design and improve happiness for other humans I just don’t get it. We live in countries with free religious expression, only overtly obvious systemic oppression. Candace, you need to understand. Black people need a better foundation for education so they actually have these opportunities for outcomes that are closer to equal across the board. The hoods need investment period from the countries taxes to improve the infrastructure. You need to remove the possibility to fall so far down a hole that you literally become socially expunged. Even as an upper middle class black woman, a millionaire, you are afforded more opportunity than upwards of 80% of the whole country. Then you look at black people who didn’t have highly skilled, extreme pay, you’re over 90% . Men and women. Then look at black women. Candace, at most, a few thousand black woman have the means and access to opportunity you do. In ALL of North America. White dude in the back: don’t think that dog whistles go over dr west’s head. He has spoken to people more important to the movement of human rights than would ever give you or your kin the time. Don’t bad faith argument him. You continue to beat the black people horse as if you’re going to get dr west to lose his cool and act “triggered” while you get to say offensive things to him. Take what this professor who has gone out as an activist for more causes and really has an understanding Beyond social media politic Andy. Bro we don’t talk about other shooting victims because your fat white sons beat friend will more than likely pull a sandy hook.
Respecting Free speech should include allowing your guest to finish a sentence. It’s so annoying how they won’t allow Cornel to even finish a sentence. Too worried about preparing their next one liner instead of actively listening. This guy has so much patience
Anyone can spit numbers and stats and sound smart. Dr West brings a deep understanding and analysis of numbers, stats, social phenomena, history, politics and religion. He is a scholar who leads from a place of love for humanity. Owens seems mostly ego driven.
Cornell is so gracious and leaves issues open for debate and Candace slams the door with her party-line and the total arrogance of certainty. She can't let the arrogance bloom to its full fledge in front of such a beautifully gracious man, but that's what she's got none the less.
Her arrogance, in the presence of an elder of real distinction and education, is increasingly grating as the interview goes along. Who taught this girl manners? She talks about conservatism but her manners are straight from cable TV and social media
Candace is so loaded with rhetoric that it doesn't sound like shes listening. She's just waiting to talk. She need to slow does and think about what she's hearing.
Cornell West knows what he's doing. He doesn't push back on a lot of this because he doesn't want to be seen as a threat to the right wing audience this show is intended for. The audience might actually start deradicalizing v trying defend candace. Smart.
This! He realizes that as soon as he shouts or hollers, they can easily turn around and say "See, angry liberal". He's patient because he knows he can easily explain his points. Meanwhile, Owens is a classic bad faith arguer. If he asked her to elaborate, she wouldn't know where to start nor would there be any tipping point to persuasion.
Love how they would pivot away from points - like the bloated military industrial complex - when they knew they had no leg to stand on: “But what about trans”?! 😂
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Mr. Cornell West explained it soo well... She was so adamant about proving her point that she missed the message (or she refuses to admit the truth)
Agreed. Dr. West should have been so respected as to spend most of the time on this show speaking. The other two in the show should be listening. He is an elder as well as intelligent. Respect should be shown. Neither of the other two people show his age or intelligence appropriate deference.
Part of the value of this conversation was that Dr. West forced her to say things beyond talking points. I think this is the most beyond talking points I have ever heard her speak.
Amazing only now realizing the aggression Candice portrays in her delivery. Struggling to wrap her head around concepts outside of her repetition. She's harsh and rigid, her way of speaking may seem better on paper, nevertheless I agree and support the talking points to a great extent. I appreciate the dialog and employ you to not cut your guess off too soon before the thought is said. I was enjoying the gentleman's points and took note of him being cut off and over spoken in hast several times. Please, thank you.
@@good4gaby vaccinations lead to cheaper gas prices, as well as freedom from Ukraine, and well let's face it its the only way to stamp out Monkey Poox season. George Floyd always wanted a free Ukraine... that's why they got 40 billion, not cities burned to the ground.. ....say his name... Yea, that's what West is saying...
Candace 15:14 "there's nowhere where I tell people that they should abandon the Democrats" Candace 16:28 "I started Blexit (the movement to get black people to leave the Democrats)"
I appreciate Cornel West’s attempt at reaching the audience of these two clowns. Even though this entire conversation was beneath him. Peace and much respect to the professor 💯
“This convo is beneath him”😂😂😂 … that is really distasteful and stupid🤞🏾 At best. This is not a good look for your mother and family. Or whoever raised you.
He was at my college the same day Afroman was in town. I went to see Afroman, not West earlier in the day, who I had already seen suck ass in an online debate with Peter Schiff. Fck socialists.
Lots of ppl in the comments not realising that Cornell West owned this conversation and walked circles around Candace. He literally got her to agree with him and her saying "but that doesn't make headlines" exposing her grift
I agree. There’s also a part about West mentions black people not doing white-collar crime and she agrees with him. She is willing to listen but she circles back to round about arguments that have nothing to do with what West is saying
Cornel West was amazing and gracious! He never attempted to speak over them. He listened! Cornel West is a mastermind! The defensive nature of Candace's responses and even her body language spoke volumes. The two (Nicholas and Candace) see African-American people from a deficit lens.
I admired this conversation. I wish democrats and republicans could sit together and speak about their differences and not argue about it. This is what I love about Candace and Dr West. Two intelligent people bringing their points to the table. Loved it👍
Cornell West we love you brother I cannot imagine sitting with two degenerates at a bar with my back to the door and having a conversation with them in such a calm and disciplined manner! I salute you brother!!!
Dr. West was so eloquent and often talking in such specific intellectual terms that I think much of this went over the others heads. But great conversation by all and I’m happy it’s here to demonstrate what civil discourse looks like.
I love this brother. Superior intellectual. Not only is he educationally intellectual but he's inclined in his interpersonal skills. He knows how to respectfully engage without demoralizing his opposition. If you don't know this brother take an hour out of your day to study him. God bless you Brother West
Why would he do what she's already done to herself?
@@tyrellanderson4722 I agree. I must say she surprised me by having this dialog with him. One thing I can say about Candace she's not afraid to debate anyone whether she's right or wrong. She's very intelligent. She's just compromised so she caters to her base. She's not going to give up her acceptance of her base by admitting she says absurdities
he speaks in a scholarly/journalistic manner not appropos for a discussion
@@rolandmtran 😂 what lmfao
@@anthonygarcia1990 sounding like Stephen A. Smith lmaooo
Candace literally said "i've never urged anyone to leave the democratic party" a few moments later "I started the black exit from the democrat party...."
The patience and restraint Dr. West shows is beyond extraordinary.
Still based of Candace. the Democratic party is very evil and the origins of the most racist part of America.
I literally was just about to make this comment...🤣🤣🤣🤣
His restraint was depressing
More proof that people like Candace aren’t interested in having a real dialogue to find solutions for Americans but here spout whatever rhetoric will get her a big pay check
@@margaretsanger975like the commenter said she lied then soon after told on herself that she lied. Nothing “bAsEd” about that. She couldn’t name one conservative policy that’s beneficial
The bartender's only idea of helping the black community is allowing Candace Owen's the freedom to be his talking head.
Yeah that’s Galvin McGunnies, those close to him believe he was pulling a money grab in his hype creating the proud boy movement.
Did you hear him when said he had friends that were Proud boys? 38:57
Same as Kanye.
Exactly
We he said " the blacks"
"There's a spiritual fascism inside all of us, a lust for domination." Now that's a proverb. Beautifully put.
Especially for leftists
This applies to atheist. Religious people already joined or submitted to god. The statement is profound but interpretation is incorrect
@@Ytd69257 Sounds like the spiritual fascism is winning inside of you.
@Ytd69257 The lust for domination is a Biblical statement & warning made to God fearing, scripture reading sons and daughters of men as testimony to the imperfect state of ALL mankind. AMP Ecclesiastes 8:9 "All this I have seen while applying my mind to every deed that is done under the sun. There is a time in which one man has exercised power over others to their detriment." DOMINATION!
These were members of the Jewish nation who attended the temple services, not atheists -AMP Ecclesiastes 8:10 "So then, I have seen the wicked buried, those who used to go in and out of the holy place [but did not thereby escape their doom], and they are [praised in spite of their evil and] soon forgotten in the city where they did such things. This too is futility (vanity, emptiness).
Don’t atheists say they are spiritual but not religious?. Atheists are equally lustful of non-god spiritualism like the god believers. Is it Domination virtue of all humans? Both groups are equally lustful either or other way. At the least love or submissive to god makes it one less lustful imo.
Pay close attention to how Dr. West controls the conversation. No yelling, no overtaking, no belittling, no insults. Just a good intellectual conversation.!
He actually listens
He listens to their stupid ass talking points and responds accordingly with an intellectual answer that's based on facts
We all can learn from this. Leftist, or conservative, we need to move like Mr. West.
Absolutely!!
I didn't see Dr. West "Controlling" the conversation. I saw him faltering on almost all points and was too busy trying to be agreeable with Candace. Dr. West is not able to push back on false and dishonest statements by those two. Very disappointing to watch.
Mr. West ability to listen and respond calmly to a 2 on 1 debate is the most stoic thing I've seen in years. Inspired
As I look thru this thread with much recent comments! What bought us here? Mind you, I like Candace Owens but I don’t like how they talk over west! They both have good points
bro really solo’d a 2v1
@@prittylitty_ But that's what she does to everyone. Dr. West has the ability to stand up to her and get her to look the real issue.
Absolutely 2 on 1
You don't get to his status without being patient and able to debate.
Dr. Cornell West - thinking points
Candace Owens - talking points
Hey that’s good.
Candace speaks from Talking points. Cornell speaks from knowledge & personal experience.
Lol you guys are way too emotional in this comment section. No objectivity .. both sides had good points
@@brianmeen2158 “good points” - still a difference between talking points and thinking points
It was like she was trying to get sound bits in
Like what she said about the Klan and democrats
Racists Democrats were white southerners - the Grandparents and great grandparents of todays SOUTHERN REPUBLICANS
BULL CONNER
STRUM THURMOND
SOUTHERN RACIST DEMOCRATS
People did not RELOCATED to NY and become todays uppity NY democrats. And NYers did not move to Georgia.
Talking points VS Thinking points
@@brianmeen2158 Not emotional when you can clearly hear Candice speaks with emotions and not facts. Dr. West will admit, when he doesn't know something. Candice just keeps going, and changes topic.
It's amazing how Dr Cornell West held it together with both of them. This is where age and wisdom shines because of life. Patience of a Saint.
These two are old enough to use their brains, but seem to be more comfortable with conspiracy theories and dogma.
I understand your point, but it doesn't take any effort to "hold it together" on Wests' part with individuals like Owens and Flyer who are willing to listen to and have respect for their "opponents". This is not the typical situation where the host is a disrespectful, liberal individual who doesn't want to debate facts and address reality.
In other words, the stage is set here to have a legitimate debate and discussion, something that is rare to see these days if all you watch and adhere to is your politics of modern liberalism.
Patience doesn't make you right at all. Dr. Cornel West is an imbecile pseudo-intellectual. Being patient is what should be done in argument always but you don't give people credit for something that should be done. Therefore I wouldn't watch it if they were whining at each other even the point of this video is to gain insight and it's obvious that he is extremely biased and will not be willing to admit that he's wrong and I just don't see his appeal.
@@washingtonlion1915 I think that we are talking about two different people.
@@washingtonlion1915 I saw the hearing that Candace referenced and she sure wasn't about debating and listening then. It was all a set-up by republicans because she wasn't an expert and nobody called on her from the right or left so at the end, she could complain about democrats.
Candace: 'there is no conspiracy against black people'
Also Candace: 'Democrats conspire against black people'
Candace realized she makes more money spewing right wing talking points so that's the basis of her entire ideology.
@@MrThebeast115 cope
@OB quick, who won the 2020 election? No cheating.
@@MrThebeast115 which one come on
Funny how Candace claims to have WORKED HARD for everything she has, when she got her wealthy start from the naacp suing white people for calling her names. What a charlatan
I wish I was half as smart and a quarter as patient as Cornell West. The dude listens and responds from a place of such love and respect.
The KKK was shooting at her grandparents house but she doesn't know where they're at . Lmao
Bruh, I was thinking the samething.
I have followed Mr. West all of my life. He sure was patient or...he intentionally dummies down so as to have a gentle conversation. I continue to admire his work.
Right. Here I am behind my screen saying, "Who the F is this white man?"
If pay attention closely he comes to a point where he realizes she’s just a robot spewing the same speech she says every debate. I’ve never heard anything different from her
She’s lost her mind if she doesn’t think there are hate groups operating in secrecy.
so right ma’am i live in Baltimore and the kkk headquarters in literally 45 mins away
I SAID THE SAME THING! jus recently in Columbus Ohio the Proud Boys came armed w/ their hate.
@@fekkacam we need to flood Candace's dms w/ news links that seem not to reach her feeds lol then she said her car always gettin broken into. Girl! 😆
I said the same damn thing when I heard her say this. She knows they're out there...she's buggin.
She wants you to point to their front door and she discredits you if you can't. She's being intellectually dishonest
Cornel is a gentleman, a scholar, and most of all a love warrior. Thank you Sir.
He is a con man. He third party run proves he is actually a right wing fascist.
Love warrior, hmmm🤔.I like that
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Dr. Cornel West completely owned the conversation! He made excellent points and he proved evidence for his point. That’s why I love the brilliance of Dr. West.
I've always loved listening to him speak.
@@stakesishigh8443Have you read any of his books, he is so brilliant.
That's why he was in#TheMatrix. lol
i can’t believe it’s 2 against one and his arguments are still more logical and respectful. i hate how they talk over him because they can’t handle anything he has to say.
I totally agree
I agree and feel the same way with every token rhino I've ever seen on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC. They really only let a republican on if they will bad mouth Trump or the Party. Its used to be John McCain for years. My favorite is when the 3 lefties gang up on the token republican on Meet the press panel. The person usually isn't even a real republican and they still beat them up.
Education and a bit of lived life coupled with the ability to say I'm not with either of the 2 parties because the lesser of two evils is not a good choice....Yeah, they weren't ready for his level of kung-fu. (I made it 29 minutes before I had to bail on her and the "bartender" guy making up hollow talking points, but I tried....smh)
Reminds me of Mathew 7:6 casting your pearls before swine. They were not interested in listening to him at all. They just wanted to own him as they like to say.
The casual disrespect for "Black's people to apparently we are pets...🤷🤦😜
I wish he would open his true eyes and see that he is talking with 2 facist. They always say the kkk was the democratic party but they pretend that all the yt nationalist are part of the Republican party. There are some still parte of the democrat party but the hard nose yt nationalist are Republican. Candice has bought her a yt nationalist husband so she has no choice but to lack the books and the wand of the yt racist.
Because she was a tramp that false accused so.eone of raping her she now want to portray her evil heart onto all women when it is statically known 7 out of every 10 women assaulted go un reporte and even more of those raped go unprosecuted. The girl is a total self hating narcissit. How do you know when she is lying, deceiving, denying truth and deflecting? Her mouth is moving. Brainwashed, Stockholm Syndrome, Manual Manumission participant, Non thinking house slave, a real empty brain, asinine, Narrow anal Repetative. Blinder than a rock.
Cornell West is really speaking over their heads. He is profoundly scholarly and they really just keep to talking points
You’re absolutely right.
exactly...experience is the best teacher!
still a great conversation! 💯✨️
✌️☮️
My thoughts exactly
It's also disrespectful of the host, it's Dr. CORNELL West! She's not that smart, her arguments are weak and unsubstantiated. She projects alot! I respect her right to speak her mind, but this seems like an ambush, except he smarter than the 2 of them. I suspect its like trapping a lion in the bed you sleeping in. Hah
Yeaaaah nah, he’s just out of touch and doesn’t know, he’s still a great man but he’s definitely missing everything
If you have an hour with Cornell West and you can’t stop talking, there is something seriously wrong with you. Recognize brilliance and learn from it. Learning does not mean agreeing with everything he says, but it does mean shutting up long enough for him to say it.
He's lucky she didn't point out the obvious: "No woman wants a man she's not married to invading her personal space like this." He should have sat back and let her talk rather than practically bumping her chin when he nods his head.
Thank you! They just kept talking over him and switching the topic as soon as he started making a point. It is their loss because it could have been an exchange of ideas, not a one-sided barrage.
Respect for Cornell West fighting the good fight.
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@raymond
Your hand is white as hell they say people do things subconsciously and project thru signs and symbols! ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
@@Black_unity597 I get your point, unfortunately I couldn’t find the black hand emoji. But thanks for pointing that out just in case I didn’t notice. I’m sure most got my point rather than focus on the color of a cartoon hand and suggest or project things. Thanks for your time…
What fight is that?
Bless his heart, he has so many busted fundamentals and faulty conclusions that were concocted by dead, godless white males, that it's sad. He'll likely never question them though. Godlessness is a beast on both sides of this dialogue.
Candice's ability to gishgallop is amazing. She starts to lose one point so she switches to another to avoid the discussion. Nothing ever gets resolved because she avoids ever making a conclusion.
She's a Ben Shapiro impersonator at this point
Isn’t that the entire spiel of people like Candace? If she were truly into resolutions she wouldn’t be in the position she is today. She is a demagogue, that’s it.
She also likes making up points and arguing against them to make irrelevant points that confuse most people
This is what conservatives do
She just trying bruh. Can’t fault her
“No matter what color they are at the top, even though they are disproportionally vanilla.”- Dr West 🤣🤣🤣 I love this man.
Cornel has such a way with words!
Cornell I have the deepest respect for you and I'm not even a left8st or conservative. I am black but you're very likable and real and you know how to deal with people. You also don't sell out while maintaining composure. It's HARD not to lose it listening to Candace. Salute sir
Did anyone else notice whenever Candice at the host were hit with an undeniable fact they diminished it and said it doesn’t happen a lot? But when they made a point they made it seem like it was common place and happening every moment of every day. They had nothing but talking points and bad faith arguments.
Or pivot to another point. They couldn’t hang
Of course. They're right wing clowns.
Facts
Facts. Simply fascinating when Candance and the host argued with Dr. West about the legitimacy of the KKK FBI reporting😯 Candance and the host's talking points were biased, bigoted, and illogical. While the interview is conducted in a professional and civil manner, they are unmatched for Dr. West’s intellect, wit, and compassion are quite evident.
Agreed
Candace: "I don't tell people to abandon the democratic party"
Also Candace: "I started the black exit from the democratic party"
This the same chick that made a decent bag from a racist incident in school, but talks as if when other black people bring things up they're "overreacting".
Contradictory.
No, at 15:10 she says "I don't tell people that - they can go anywhere and hear me speak, . . . there is nowhere where I tell people that they should abandon the D Party and go to the R Party." I think technically that's true - she tells people that they should abandon the D Party, but doesn't tell them that they should go to the R Party. She supported Trump, but I think she wanted people to be Trump-supporting Independents. She says, "what I advocate for is independence." She's registered Independent, isn't she?
@@Acyutananda_yogamonk I see your point.
I'm a conservative but found a newfound respect for Dr. West. Not a single gotcha response, only genuine pushback. Wow. Impressed.
Dr. West is an internationally respected man for a good reason. He is without question the most erudite and respectful person living today. I don't think there's anyone on earth that couldn't have an honest and genuine conversation with him.
Cornel is the man
Wow. His talking points are Bernie-like. With "body Language". He wants equality without responsibility. In Europe we have a lot of lefty-universaty blah blah in governments.
@@jasfan8247 I never said I agreed with the man lol. But there's a difference when your opponent comes at you with gotcha points and one who actually listens and pushes back with an alternative idea. But yeah like all leftists....freedom and equality without responsibility is their whole game.
@@derkguez8590It's clear that Candi just goes for her Trump points but the Dr/ Rev is so caring he even admits that he is a Bernie-preacher. And slow when the police comes haha.
This man is so full of love, he´s fully without ego and genuinely wants to help people. He´s a spiritual and political leader - and the president the US and the world deserves/desperately needs.
Dr. West has the patience of a saint.
Except for his constant interruptions. Great pow wow though! I wish more of all of us could Converse in this manner.
@@marieasssify I was about to say the same.
@@marieasssify seemed like like interruptions on all sides. Mostly on the other twos part.
@@chevyDboyMike there’s a difference between a healthy debate and the patience of a saint.
@@marieasssify there are two sides to a coin
My eyes rolled back so hard when mentioning the clan she just HAD to bring up old and dead democrats that don’t represent what the party is now while the Republicans have gotten far more bolder in their racism, I hate both parties but it’s telling when someone is just a mouthpiece for a a party that isn’t even for you.
Great... now do the bit about how the abuses and prejudices of the 18th and 19th century don't characterize modern America...I won't hold my breath for you to condemn white privilege.
Facts!
She knows this. Those same democrats back then would be Republicans TODAY.
@@keithspeller5620 Strom Thurmond is probably on her Mt Rushmore....or better yet, Stone Mountain. Him changing parties is probably noted in the textbooks they want banned. lol
What many of them fail to mention is that those people who would have identified themselves as democrats during the Jim Crow era are now under the label of Republicans, or shall I say, Trumplicans.
Everything with her is a TALKING POINT rather than a genuine response to what’s being said
Candance is a walking contradiction
Well put.
that’s what conservatives do, it’s just a bunch of talking points after another and if they can’t respond they shift the goal post to fit another talking point within it
Yup
My exact thought. The bartender is so biased too.
Candace doing all that fast ass talking 🤦🏾♂️ she need to learn how to listen some. Also, Cornell is too experienced as a black man in America to be talking to these “kids” about black issues 😅 he really lived that life
Poor Cornel...literally surrounded by two barking 'celebrity-obsessed' conspiracy theorists. Wow, he's got such patience.
He survived the 60s.
For sure, you can literally feel his confidence as well as his (unlike theirs) humanity. Honestly I’m not sure why he bothers w them?
Agreed!!! For a minute or two, you can see in Dr. West’s face, that he just was not sure how to deal with those two individuals. At one point, he just had to stop talking and sip his beverage.
Cornel is the only one that can have a well rounded conversation. Candace on the otber hand can't see past her self hate enough to move past her anti-black talking points.
@@edmondhuot5509 i'm glad he did, though!
Candice has honed her talking point to argue with liberals, she doesn't really know how to deal with leftists. The points where she looked like a deer in the headlights were classic. 2 on 1 and it was civil, if you thought that was surprising, you don't know much about West.
Most far right personalities, and just everyday far right people who like arguing, are like this. They will always argue points with me as though I believe in liberalism, support the Democratic Party and believe in the words of Democratic leadership and talking heads. In fact, I can't remember ever _not_ being approached like this.
They really do think "leftism" and "liberalism" are the same thing, which is how you get such people calling very blatant neoliberals "communists" with a straight face. They don't know and aren't interested. Fascism obviously isn't about being knowledgeable.
It amused me how defensive these personalities are about that word though when they aren't even being accused; "Fascists? Who? Where? Definitely not me! No fascists here!- Oh! Sure, globally. ...But not here."
@@Meladjusted Yeah, it's always hilarious that they keep arguing that fascists and such don't exist. It's _pretty dang suspicious,_ haha.
Also, trying to tell Dr. West, who has been targeted by all kinds of these groups - including the one that McInnes founded - that the groups don't exist is hilarious.
@@Meladjusted Yeah, it's always hilarious that they keep arguing that fascists and such don't exist. It's _pretty dang suspicious,_ haha.
Also, trying to tell Dr. West, who has been targeted by all kinds of these groups - including the one that McInnes founded - that the groups don't exist is hilarious.
Democrats are NOT liberals. I dont know what they are, but they arent liberals.
candace debates the left all the time. i get the feeling you don't know much about her LuL
I believe when they talk about black on black crime, it mainly occurs as a survival mode due to the trickle down effect of inequities sustained from systemic racism. Its deeper than what people are willing to discuss.
There is no such thing as black on black crime. People murder those in proximity to them.
There’s also no such thing as “black on black” crime. Black on black crimes insinuates that black people kill each other for being black when that is not the case. It is proximity crime. People use “white on black” crime because a lot of white on black crime is based on racism.
So true. I think you can correlate poverty and crime. The powers that be know this, but to address that you have to be honest about wealth and inequality
Thank you! It is a trckled down effect of inequalities sustained from systemic racism..well said indeed! I was hoping Dr. West would speak on the intricacies of the how what's known as 'black on black' crime was not only created through these systems and conditions, but also how they are allowed to perpetuate. And, research shows that violent crimes are usually perpetuated by those of the same 'race', but there is no mention of 'white on white' crime. It's a situation of proximity. Where there's poverty, crime is likely to exist, and since there is an overwhelming abundance of impoverished people of color, particularly Blacks, Latinx, and Indigenous due to systemic racism and ongoing institutions that affect the wealth of those groups, then crimes in those impoverished areas run rampant. What I see overlooked or simply not discussed when it comes to violent crimes is socioeconomics.
Yes and most crimes are committed within your own community all races. Whites are mostly likely killed by their own race as well but they don’t talk about that
I love how he listens to her as though she were a daughter, he’s so respectful.
He’s better than me. Every now and then he gets a look of disgust on his face that I can relate to. Like. Ugh is this chic for real? But instead of telling her off he collects himself and patiently attempts to find the common ground and understanding.
@@threeofeight197 What did Candace say that was incorrect?
What did Candace say that was incorrect?
Damn. They were able to steer the conversation away from the military industrial complex so fast. This is an illuminating example of how effective the culture war topics are at distracting us from the real problems. They spent so much time talking about gender and about 2 seconds talking about military spending.
Yep, the moment Dr. Cornell West started taking about the military industrial complex. The right wing host steps in with his reactionary transphobic talking points to steer away from that conversation.
This is such an underrated comment. I was instantly shocked at how they immediately switched the conversation right when the topic was shedding light on the top’s corruption.
That was so damn quick. 😂 ironically after saying they should talk about it. Lol
They had nothing to say. Cornell was appealing to them to get them to talk about the military spending. And then, cut! Smh 🤦
“B.. but the Trans thing!”
I watched this video just for Dr. West. His mindset, intelligence, and patience through this interview 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿. Amazing.
Same.
Me too!!
It’s like having a conversation with 2 ppl that sit in the house by themselves and have no friends. The man is telling them he was there. And they still have an opinion
We need more shows like this! Where educated debate is allowed and plurality of ideas expressed in a civilized manner. Thank you!
Amen. The best debate I’ve ever seen. I love CO though
Well said!
Only problem is only west is educated.
Right!@@jessecollins2453
Wish more of the people commenting listened to the conversation and learned something. Many are just here to talk down on Candice.
I hate how Candace and the other dude keep switching topics any time Dr. West is in the middle of explaining something. They don’t let him finish because they know he’s going to prove them wrong
Absolutely
I thought it was just me who was thinking that, you know
Should not have had him on to begin with. 🙄 However he made a very good point at 25:05 , that brought both sides down.
@@matthewsparks8821
Sounds like the tolerant right.. This guys whipes Candace.. she’s just a tap dancer for white people..
That is because he was winning!
The way Candice Owens redirects conversation every single time she begins to talk is driving me insane
You and me both extremely annoying
Exactly
She doesn't care about the actual content she's speaking about, only her talking points and being "right" and outdoing people with her fast-talking nonsense that contradicts itself constantly.
I never knew she was that awful 😖
Candace: “I don’t go around telling people to leave the Democrat party”
Also Candace: “I started ‘The black exit’ from the Democratic Party”
She said she got a cousin in the projects starting a food truck. Come on Candace.
If you take her seriously that how she wins.
You'd be foolish to leave the very party that fights for you, I know who stands for me. Long live liberalism.
Wow, that's crazy. It happened within like 5 minutes of her saying it 🤣
Candace is full of shit she’s only doing this because she married a white man from Britain she’s not even honest with herself.
26:00 "no one is demonizing trans people" two seconds later "they die cause they're drug addicts and are caught up with gangs" ... pretty much sums up how this conversation went
This was the moment I held my head in my hands. Completely uninformed hate speech. Douche
For someone who hates the victim mentality so much, it was interesting Candace bringing up how many times people called her names
Hahaha fucking excellent point
She contradicts herself. To be honest, she doesn’t want smoke from a lot of people who’s ready to debate her.
How can someone like Candance Owen speak for anyone, when her knowledge of social economics, humanity, Maslow's hierarchy, and common sense, is not prevalent in her understanding?
It looks as if she talks to be heard
Excellent point!
Not only that but when you constantly try to turn George Floyd into a villain you're probably going to be called names.
"Democrats are fascists" after Dr. West says all parties have fascististic tendencies is pure gold. You haven't disproved Dr. West's point.
"Fascististic" is that a word is it? 🤔🙄😆
yes
Cornel is an incredible teacher. If only he was in the presence of open minds.
Exactly
I know right, hes regretting this I'm sure, it is hard to talk to brainwashed fools!
Or those that listen and don’t repeat the same talking points on every platform
She needs to be in his class instead of trying to debate baseless talking points with him. She is not on his level. She is a neophyte.
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why is the host so combative ? he really takes away from the conversation by dog pilling on whatever candace says. anyways dr. west just brought so much eloquence to this show. love him!
It also feels like anytime Candace sways to the leftist side he is there to remind her to side with whiteness. I'd be interested in watching them talk about racism and Black America without him looming over.
👀 lowkey, also you’d think a host would know not to interrupt
@@TheCatsMe00w If this ain't the truth
Hit dogs holler
It’s hilarious to watch two people who weren’t in Charlottesville try to tell someone who WAS in Charlottesville what happened
What happened in Charlottesville is known by people who weren’t there via CAMERAS
Maybe you were the ones that were able to play stupid about Charlottesville. We saw the tiki torches and people driving cars into protesters. The bottom feeders in this country are always trying to rewrite events to justify the fancy land they have chosen to live in.
@@PlanetC64 Then you're only seeing a limited perspective. That's not really a good rebuttal
Pray, tell us what happened.
@@paysour3 by “you” I’m assuming that you’re referring to Candace Owens?
24 minute mark...Candace is wrapping up her argument and West drops a non-partisan truth bomb. She's so rattled she goes to Gavin for help "we talked off camera" and he helps her by re-directing the conversation "But the trans thing!" C'mon, Proud Boy. At least pretend the whole interview wasn't an attempt at a trap...
Candace is rather young & inexperienced compared to West. no?
Candace is on the wrong side of the trans debate for selfish reasons.
@@kylorenkardashian79 What's the penalty for being on the wrong side of the trans debate? Or the reward for being on the right side if you would rather expound on that option.
@@Pomiferous the wrong side is using exclusive language that could potentially motivate one to commit suicide.
West has been vocal in support of trans rights for decades, which is hilarious. If only the other two people knew anything
As an American who recently immigrated to Mexico, the level of negative propaganda spread by the right is overwhelming. Every person I’ve met is kind, helpful and safe. In fact, I feel safer here than in the US.
Good for you, truly 💚 the US is a snakepit
when they said most Mexicans that come in are criminals, it really irked me as my city is full of mexicans and non of them are criminals, just people trying to work to have a better life
As a Nigerian I understand you too
Dr. West: "How do we hold Wall Street accountable?" Bartender: "Close the border." Good faith > bad faith.
lmao... BRUH!!!!!... watching this has giving me more anxiety lol
👇Bad faith👇
15:17
C.O. *"You can go anywhere and hear me speak, I never tell anybody to leave the Democrat Party..."*
_One minute and 11 seconds later_
16:28
G.M. *"Can you, maybe, explain what **_"blexit"_** is?"*
C.O. *"Yeah, i mean...So I started the **_"black exit"_** from the Democrat Party."*
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Gavin McGinnis hilarious for this one!😅
😃He set her up.😂 She was going to get away with it and just not talk about blexit.🤣 She just tries to play it off.😭 And it works! She even interrupted Dr West to tell her lie 🤥and he acted as if nothing happened😀 when she told on herself.💀 That gave me serious debate bro blue balls.😱
Thats what they do. Pivot if they can handle the topic at hand. At least they could make it less obvious.
The bartender (idk his name) totally ruined this conversation. Watching from a left perspective, I was impressed with Candice and her authenticity, she seemed to really want to engage in a good faith debate. Homie with the mustache was only there to interrupt Cornel and change the topic whenever he was about to conclude his point, he never let him finish. Very frustrating.
Should've taken his own advice at the beginning and kept quiet.
The "Bartender" is Gavin McInnes, the co-founder of Vice News and Founder of the Proud Boys, known far and wide as a Fascist Street Gang
Videos like this really put things into perspective. Critical thought, logic and reason versus talking points meant to push an agenda. Dr. West was superb in this.
In Candace was stuck on still trying to make talking points especially against black Americans that's her favorite topic
@David.Me& My45 I personally enjoyed this conversation. The host was annoying me though. He was asking questions, trying to challenge Dr. West but the questions made no sense. It seemed like he was listening to what was being said.
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Cornell West wins by not trying to defeat or dominate. What a mind.
When you know what you know...candace keep looking for bartender to support her like she won the debate.poor girl she speaks on black on black crime.all races lay their crime in their Own vacinity.mexicsn do it white people etc...
one hundred percent. Seems he's trying to just have a mind sharing conversation while the other two have their dukes up...even in their body language and posture as he speaks you can see that they are not in absorption mode rather in a mental fighting stance. Even so he was brilliant, though I do like a lot of the things Candace says.
The willingness of dude and Candace to present a conversation about the wrongs of blacks people is exactly why we will never support the republicans…. Dr. Cornell west is a real one…he listens then reacts
Candace doesn’t even have the intellectual capacity to have a conversation with Cornel West. Cornel West is truly an independent thinker. Candace just spouts conservative, anti-liberal talking points.
that is just a nasty ad hominem argument and I tend to agree with Dr West--it is illustrative of the pathological name calling that both of them bemoaned
@@billhaywood3503 Eddye Ervin is not wrong though. Candace does not grasp the depth of the issues to the same degree that Dr West does, it's not a simple ad hominen.
She's a troll. She's the example racists use to show that black people agree with them.
Well said Eddye Ervin
@@devonogara8562 she has the intelligence to sit with someone on the opposite side and have a discussion. Something I’m sure you’re probably incapable of doing.
I love Cornel West, his way of just letting them have their talking points and their beliefs and not trying to convince or change their mind is unimaginably good! He puts a thought out there and they start raising their voices and talking over him and he just calmly lets them have it. No forcing of thought but giving strong debate. It's a Masterclass in the trading of thought while keeping it clean.
Literally 💫
Cuzz he might be wrong so listen he sed he did not know about the app
@@captainbuttnaked no one knows about the app 😂
He's not there for them, is why. They are so far gone, he know this. His presence is for all the spectators who haven't yet fallen off the cliff and who can be saved from the depths of fascism.
That's because he knows that empty cans make the most noise.
Dr. West bless your heart for being willing to sit here and attempt to educate these two. 👍🏾
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Thanks KILLAWATTS804 for your great support for Bro. Cornel! Dr.West teaches me so much, even for my 71 years and decades of Bible teaching, both directions. Still have sharp edges from growing up on So. Side Chi. Those two are indisputably wrong. They sound so foolish. Here in rural VA now, I've read local newspaper interviews with white supremacist militia in regular training, in SW VA. Been Jan. 6 coup members who were police & sheriff's dept. arrested, that lived here also.
Seems like they both learned that day. You should try it
Would have been better if he had not kept invading Candace's personal space while she made most of the points in the video.
At -23:13 the look on Dr. Wests face when racist Mcginnes says that cops are going to jail. Lmao....sometimes I think Cornell can't believe the ignorance of these two.....
How Cornell has patience to talk to these two is amazing.
Exactly
RIGHT!!!!
The black on black crimes argument is the weakest argument and candace tried to twist it with protest. That's crazy to me
It's crazy to me that you just accept black on black crime, which is the biggest death toll for the black community year over year and it's not even close. Why focus on that? Pfffft, doesn't fit the racist narrative does it? Keep your eyes shut though....
If this video can prove anything, it's that Dr. Cornel West is the most patient man in the world.
Definitely!
When you work for the FBI to influence the gullible its good to be patient
Dr West is so patient. These fools aren't even saying anything.
Oh he sizing her mind up by listening and realizing you can't debate a close brainwashed mind as Candice.
they initiated this 2 on 1 debate and needed an explanation on the difference between leftism and liberalism.
THIS is how you have a thoughtful discussion about politics and current events!!
PHENOMENAL JOB, DR. WEST!!!
This is the perfect example of someone who studied and equipped themselves with knowledge and wisdom, on the other hand you have someone memorizing lame talking points that shift depending on loose standards
One is old, the other has plenty of time to grow & mature.
@@Pomiferous one's a grifter, the other has been about his shit for a very long time
@@Pomiferous love the way you placed that ❤️
@@TexasBrown713 You didn’t say who you were talking about specifically but I am supposing you were talking about Dr Cornell West who has been at this his whole life and Ms/Mrs Candace Owens who hasn’t been at this even nearly as long in her young life.
I think they are both very intelligent but Candace seems more of an opportunist who used her sharp oratory skills to capitalize on Trump’s presidency and movement.
@@MOTIVATIONBYDAR Cornell the man. But yes Candace is a grifter looking to make money as the alt rights "Black friend". I invite you to RUclips "who is Candace Owens" by NowThisNews
These two could never come close to the humbleness and gracefulness and intellect of Dr. Cornel. He's a brilliant, beautiful soul. If we replaced all current politicians and leaders with his like, the world would be a better place.
The respect I have for Dr. West is out of this world. Hes the greatest gift to American politics currently
Dr Cornell West comes with the facts and experience. Great conversation.
I respect cornel west. He is a consistent oracle of his time. He is an international treasure.
Please, he's a state sponsor intellectual
He says nothing and has no consistency of coherent thought
@@FireinTheBowl I despise this Satanic witch. She loves to point out the single parent homes, poverty, and crime in the black community but she doesn't want to talk about how we got to this point. Black people were entering the middle class of American lifestyle in less than a decade out of slavery. Black children outperformed white children in school. In that same 10-year period 4000 black people were lynched or burned alive.
She doesn't want to talk about the millions of affordable homes that were built in the suburbs that were underwritten by the federal government. The state's pitched in with new roads and modern Public Schools. The purpose of the plan was to stabilize American families and give them a means to develop wealth over time through home ownership. The plan worked beautifully but there was one stipulation, NO BLACK PEOPLE ALLOWED! This wasn't some communities personal preference it was the damn law nationwide. It was illegal to sell one of those homes to a black family.
The freeways that were built to connect those Suburban neighborhoods to downtown were built right through black communities. Dispersing and destroying what little cohesiveness had been established by a familiarity. Black communities were scattered.
Black businesses were always the backbone of the black community. Then institutions like Banks and insurance companies got together and decided to redline black communities. It didn't matter what your credit score was or Equity position the answer was "NO "and black businesses were destroyed. At the same time America was welcoming with open arms immigrants primarily from Southeast asia. The banks and insurance companies that discriminated against black people warmly welcomed the new immigrants to take over commerce in the black community. Black Welfare required that no man be in the household but these recent immigrants were subsidized as a family. Black dollars used to circulate up to 20 times in the black community now that money leaves every day at sundown. It's going to develop another ethnic group. The Asians have become one of the most successful communities in America built on black dollars.
The War on Drugs was a war on black people. We were told just to say no but now that the opioid and Fentanyl crisis has struck Middle America suddenly the agenda is not to lock them up and throw away the key but drug treatment and Rehabilitation.
This Satanic black witch has no idea the implications of so many black communities being wiped off the face of the map by deputized white mobs who were insulted by black success. Successful black people were routinely tortured and murdered and then put on display as a warning to other black people that success can get you killed.
The effects of Jim Crow laws which were designed to undermine and Destroy black progress still have an impact on today's society in the black community. There are people alive today who remember what it was like not to be able to use a public toilet or enter through the front door of many government buildings and businesses.
She's quick to tell you that more white people are killed by the police well they're 200 million more white people in this country. Yes black people do commit a disproportionate number of crimes but that was to be expected when so much effort is put into undermining and destroying black people. Both of my grandfathers were murdered and nothing done about it because they were successful black man. Are we supposed to believe that didn't have an impact on my mother and father?
My mother and father never voted in their lives because they were terrified of even the prospect of registering to vote. That simple step of citizenship could easily get a black person killed maybe even the entire family killed. It's no secret even black children were dragged out of their homes and murdered because they violated some Jim Crow law.
In my opinion Dr West was entirely to agreeable with this bottom feeding black witch. I would have confronted this boot Kissel with the facts of why black people are in the condition they are today. Talking about the symptoms of racism doesn't solve the problem either. The root cause has been institutional and it has been going on for Generations. Now we're supposed to play stupid like it wasn't supposed to have a deterious effect on the black community. It's only now with the widespread use of video cameras that we see first hand State sponsor terrorism. We are trusting the terrorists to police themselves. They always talk about the number of black people shot but a slick trick is to choke or beat to Death black people. No they're not shot but they are just as dead.
Candice Owens outrageous slander of the black community is designed to highlight the symptoms of racism. Only a sliver of black people are actually killed by whites. You ain't got to kill somebody to destroy them. Slavery, Jim Crow laws, segregation, deputies white mobs, and second class citizenship is perpetrated by that so-called sliver of racist white nationalist who gained state and federal power. It only takes a few congressmen or senators to impact black people's lives. The 13th Amendment is a perfect example. Slavery was abolished in America except for the punishment of a crime. That was easy to overcome just create some laws just for black people. The convict leasing program was even more profitable than slavery.
@Michael Paysour I agree with a lot of what you said( besides the name calling) but your statements are heavy in ommisions. I recommend reading Thomas sowell Black Rednecks and white Liberals
@Michael Paysour and my point wasn't to debate the issues, but point out that Cornell West is confusing and scattered. What you wrote had much more clarity than listening to Dr. West for 2 hours. He is all over the place.
Dr Cornel West: "With 11 million illegal immigrants here....."
Gavin: "30 million!"
Dr West: "You think it's 30 million?"
Gavin: "I think it's 30 million."
FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS, GAVIN!
Cornell west is amazing. The others are short sighted and talk with fear.
It’s sad to see this man try to educate people that are only interested in making money on being controversial
18:22.
An additional note, Dr. West brings up the military industrial complex, the hypocrisy of referencing limited governments, crony capitalism (where the money goes) and the conservatives bring up transgenders lol
@Dr Foolchi um the conservatives does the same thing lol 😂 you just don’t wanna believe it.
@@wavveytae4181 do you have a timestamp of where the conservatives bring up the stuff Dr. West talked about?
@Pawwel Mussial I mean, if only these people were willing to do more than pretend the system needs to be broken and take steps to improve its design and improve happiness for other humans I just don’t get it. We live in countries with free religious expression, only overtly obvious systemic oppression.
Candace, you need to understand. Black people need a better foundation for education so they actually have these opportunities for outcomes that are closer to equal across the board. The hoods need investment period from the countries taxes to improve the infrastructure. You need to remove the possibility to fall so far down a hole that you literally become socially expunged. Even as an upper middle class black woman, a millionaire, you are afforded more opportunity than upwards of 80% of the whole country. Then you look at black people who didn’t have highly skilled, extreme pay, you’re over 90% . Men and women.
Then look at black women. Candace, at most, a few thousand black woman have the means and access to opportunity you do. In ALL of North America.
White dude in the back: don’t think that dog whistles go over dr west’s head. He has spoken to people more important to the movement of human rights than would ever give you or your kin the time. Don’t bad faith argument him. You continue to beat the black people horse as if you’re going to get dr west to lose his cool and act “triggered” while you get to say offensive things to him. Take what this professor who has gone out as an activist for more causes and really has an understanding Beyond social media politic Andy.
Bro we don’t talk about other shooting victims because your fat white sons beat friend will more than likely pull a sandy hook.
Cornel West is a national treasure.
Indeed!!!
but bad idea to run in 2024
Ouuuwweeeee! Candace messed up on the military industrial complex… and a quick switch to hormone blockers for kids lol! Classic.
Respecting Free speech should include allowing your guest to finish a sentence. It’s so annoying how they won’t allow Cornel to even finish a sentence. Too worried about preparing their next one liner instead of actively listening. This guy has so much patience
He knows the truth stands alone and doesn't require defending.
Anyone can spit numbers and stats and sound smart. Dr West brings a deep understanding and analysis of numbers, stats, social phenomena, history, politics and religion. He is a scholar who leads from a place of love for humanity. Owens seems mostly ego driven.
money driven
Cornell is so gracious and leaves issues open for debate and Candace slams the door with her party-line and the total arrogance of certainty. She can't let the arrogance bloom to its full fledge in front of such a beautifully gracious man, but that's what she's got none the less.
Her arrogance, in the presence of an elder of real distinction and education, is increasingly grating as the interview goes along. Who taught this girl manners? She talks about conservatism but her manners are straight from cable TV and social media
I pray for you Bro West, your patience is astounding
For real, i can't even stand candace dummy owens...
I agree. I would have started drinking 5 minutes into the conversation...
When it comes to Charlottesville it's hard to argue with somebody who was actually there.
Man is the real deal.
FACTS!
“The Left started this, saying ‘rape is bad’” Well, my dude, if you didn’t know that, now you have to thank the Left for schooling you.
Candace is so loaded with rhetoric that it doesn't sound like shes listening. She's just waiting to talk. She need to slow does and think about what she's hearing.
Both missed the rare opportunity to listen and learn from Dr. Cornel West
How do you know he's the one to listen to?
@@alexlyndhurstfreesuge5532You're a Suge Knight fan girl, so can it
@@Saturnia2014 Cornel is stuck on the democrat plantation like 90% of the sheep
Cornell West knows what he's doing. He doesn't push back on a lot of this because he doesn't want to be seen as a threat to the right wing audience this show is intended for. The audience might actually start deradicalizing v trying defend candace. Smart.
This! He realizes that as soon as he shouts or hollers, they can easily turn around and say "See, angry liberal". He's patient because he knows he can easily explain his points. Meanwhile, Owens is a classic bad faith arguer. If he asked her to elaborate, she wouldn't know where to start nor would there be any tipping point to persuasion.
Love how they would pivot away from points - like the bloated military industrial complex - when they knew they had no leg to stand on: “But what about trans”?! 😂
He is so painful patient, it’s lovely to see an old fella keeping it real and absolutely owning her
Please allow me to offer a summary: Candace talks a lot. Dr. West thinks a lot. Barkeep gets in the way a lot.
Lmao
Jerome---Sounds personal, he rarely said anything.
@@Pomiferous he kept interrupting
@@JoseCampos-wm6jl How does one interrupt their own program ?
Astute.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Mr. Cornell West explained it soo well... She was so adamant about proving her point that she missed the message (or she refuses to admit the truth)
I pray for half of the patience that Professor Cornel West displayed in this “debate.”
The conversation should've been between Candace and Dr. West. The bartender just keeps derailing the conversation
Agreed. Dr. West should have been so respected as to spend most of the time on this show speaking. The other two in the show should be listening. He is an elder as well as intelligent. Respect should be shown. Neither of the other two people show his age or intelligence appropriate deference.
Strategy
this mans patience and calmness is unmatched
Part of the value of this conversation was that Dr. West forced her to say things beyond talking points. I think this is the most beyond talking points I have ever heard her speak.
Amazing only now realizing the aggression Candice portrays in her delivery. Struggling to wrap her head around concepts outside of her repetition. She's harsh and rigid, her way of speaking may seem better on paper, nevertheless I agree and support the talking points to a great extent. I appreciate the dialog and employ you to not cut your guess off too soon before the thought is said. I was enjoying the gentleman's points and took note of him being cut off and over spoken in hast several times. Please, thank you.
Love how Dr West stands his ground
As long as he is vaccinated, with the 4th booster... for the children...
Wrong ground is still ground..
@@Nowhandles why he wasn’t vaccinated or he only got the first three I’m confused
@@good4gaby vaccinations lead to cheaper gas prices, as well as freedom from Ukraine, and well let's face it its the only way to stamp out Monkey Poox season.
George Floyd always wanted a free Ukraine...
that's why they got 40 billion,
not cities burned to the ground..
....say his name...
Yea, that's what West is saying...
@@cary1130 candaceied so many times this debate
Candace 15:14 "there's nowhere where I tell people that they should abandon the Democrats"
Candace 16:28 "I started Blexit (the movement to get black people to leave the Democrats)"
I'm so glad Mr West was on here to make it make sense.
I appreciate Cornel West’s attempt at reaching the audience of these two clowns. Even though this entire conversation was beneath him.
Peace and much respect to the professor 💯
Clowns is a very generous term…😅
What points were expressed that made them clowns?
@@justme-kr7lx have you not seen their content? Are they new to you?
“This convo is beneath him”😂😂😂 … that is really distasteful and stupid🤞🏾 At best. This is not a good look for your mother and family. Or whoever raised you.
@@fullsend8738 Of course I have. I don't look to them for all the answers, but what points were made that you disagreed with or found ridiculous?
Dr. West is so incredibly intelligent and so unbelievably incredible about discussing these issues
intelligent how lol his degree is in philosophy. the study of others ideas
@@relly793 that doesn’t make him intelligent?
I had the honor of seeing him speak in person back in the 90s on campus. An incredible speaker.
He was at my college the same day Afroman was in town. I went to see Afroman, not West earlier in the day, who I had already seen suck ass in an online debate with Peter Schiff. Fck socialists.
Lots of ppl in the comments not realising that Cornell West owned this conversation and walked circles around Candace. He literally got her to agree with him and her saying "but that doesn't make headlines" exposing her grift
The ppl who follow her are too brainwashed to pick up on that
I agree. There’s also a part about West mentions black people not doing white-collar crime and she agrees with him. She is willing to listen but she circles back to round about arguments that have nothing to do with what West is saying
Cornel West was amazing and gracious! He never attempted to speak over them. He listened! Cornel West is a mastermind! The defensive nature of Candace's responses and even her body language spoke volumes. The two (Nicholas and Candace) see African-American people from a deficit lens.
Very well said- I agree!
exactly.
@@bicycleutopia no
Precisely.
And I love that you misstated his name. He's a garbage person and shouldn't be remembered.
I admired this conversation. I wish democrats and republicans could sit together and speak about their differences and not
argue about it.
This is what I love about Candace and Dr West. Two intelligent people bringing their points to the table.
Loved it👍
Cornell West we love you brother I cannot imagine sitting with two degenerates at a bar with my back to the door and having a conversation with them in such a calm and disciplined manner! I salute you brother!!!
😂😂
Dr. West was so eloquent and often talking in such specific intellectual terms that I think much of this went over the others heads. But great conversation by all and I’m happy it’s here to demonstrate what civil discourse looks like.